1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: This is episode thirty five of the best podcast available, 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday on Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and the 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Virtual Offseason just about coming to a conclusion here in 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours or so, Gribbs. A lot 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: of sports news going on, and how does it impact 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're about to find out. Sports are officially back. 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: The NBA set to resume play July, although some players 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: are backing out already. MLB finally got their act together. 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: That looks like they're gonna be back on July. The 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: NHL expected to resume play late July early August, and 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: knock on Wood. NFL teams expected to report to training 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: camp on July. A lot to watch, a lot to 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: take in after three months of well, nothing right, but 14 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: it's interesting, man. I think the sport that's gotten the 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: most coverage, I think, and what they're doing is the NBA, 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: because I think they're they're the ones that are are 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: going outside the box the most with this. They're they're 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: trying to do the bubble thing, which is is probably 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a big challenge and they've everyone's discussed this 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: page document that they came up with in preserving the atmosphere. 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: But even then, there's still gonna be flaws in the system. 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: But but like you mentioned, there's a couple of prominent 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: players that are have already announced that they're not going 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to be a part of this. I think the most 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: recent one being Avery Bradley of the Lakers. I mean, 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: that's a key player on a team a lot of 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: people can can believe, uh could win the championship. And 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I think his his reasons are good, and I think 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: there's very little default in what he's do and why 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: he's deciding to do this. So, uh, it'll be interesting 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: to see what it looks like as these players kind 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: of return to their facilities, and baseball is obviously going 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: through a unique spring training because Florida and Arizona are 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of a mess right now with with cases. So uh, 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting see and I think the NFL 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: will will be paying close attention because it's inevitable that 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: some some of these guys are going to get UH 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: tested positive. And then it's about how you react in 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: the moment and preserve the seasons that you're you're going 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: forward with. Yeah, there are reports out there that around 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: ten teams in the NFL have players that have tested 42 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: positive for COVID nineteens, so you know, it's definitely something 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: to monitor. It's it's definitely something to watch as to 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: how these leagues are going to address things. And you 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: mentioned it. I mean, baseball and basketball are going right 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: into the hotbeds, the hot zones for this, so I'm 47 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: not sure it makes all the sense in the world. 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: The good news for the Indians is puting they won't 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: be snowed out this year. Um, it will be quite 50 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: the opposite. Um. But it looks like all of these 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: sports are gonna come together at one time, and then 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna throw in events like the Masters, and once 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: the NFL season starts and the US Open, and tennis 54 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: is gonna come back with the US Open at some point. 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of sports that are gonna get thrown 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: down people's throats and a lot of a lot of 57 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: TV time and probably not a bad thing because I'm 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: not sure how many TV shows have actually been able 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: to tape. But if you're a network, you are clamoring 60 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: for for some of this sporting activity. Yeah, the baseball 61 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: one is gonna be interesting to watch because that's the 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: most close resemblance that you're going to get to the 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: travel that the NFL teams are going to have to 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: engage on and that and then maybe also the kind 65 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: of the time in the clubhouse. I think baseball is 66 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: similar to the NFL in that regard where you spend 67 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: a lot of time in the locker room and that 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I think that's that. But obviously baseball doesn't have the 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: same contact that that that that football does, so you 70 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: can essentially play the sport without having to touch anyone 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: or even get that close uh to someone. So again, 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: a lot to learn, uh, and it's just gonna be 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: all about The key is going to be keeping the 74 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: guys safe and in a in a situation where you're 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: not worried about an outbreak within your own building. Uh. 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: And then if you want to learn from Nascar, I 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: believe they just had was it five thousand fans were 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: at We're at Talladega, which I think seats well over 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: a hundred thousands, So I mean that's a huge the 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: huge complex. I've been there a few times and so 81 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: it's small increments here each over the next couple of weeks, 82 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: and all of this will be important as the NFL 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: continues to work on on its policies and and and 84 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: getting everything as safe as possible. And speaking of attendance, 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: from Daniel Kaplan, sports business reporter at The Athletic with 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: a story out on Tuesday, with the NFL facing significant 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: financial losses from games played without fans, the NFL will 88 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: not be implemented a game day approach that is identical 89 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: for all teams when it comes to attendance. Attendance will 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: be a state by state, county by county thing, and 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: unnamed NFL source told Kaplan it will not be a 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: one size fits all, which means that in some states 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: fans will be present for games, in others not. What 94 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: do you make of that news coming out on Tuesday 95 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: from The Athletic and from an unnamed source in the league. 96 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: So take that for what it's worth. But um, some 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: stadiums might have fans, others might be piping in fan noise. Yeah, 98 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: I mean it For one, it's I mean, the NFL 99 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: has to make a lot of tough decisions here. It's 100 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: one less decision they don't have to make on the 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: on this thing. And I think, as we've seen as 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: this is unfull to the last few months. I mean, 103 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: it hits the country in different waves at different times, 104 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: and I think that so that that you're opening the 105 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: door to being able to let some fans into an 106 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: area that really isn't having an issue with the virus 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: at that particular time. And I also do think that 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, it really is gonna be 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: make these decisions tough on on the governors and the 110 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: people in these counties because they know how important, uh, 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, getting people in in terms of revenue could be. 112 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be all about safety. And I think that, uh, 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I don't know if I think I 114 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: kind of agree with it, and that I don't think 115 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: it's going to create some kind of advantage for one 116 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: team or or not for another team, because I mean, 117 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: even then you're it's not You're gonna have one game 118 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: that with seventy thou people in the next week was zero. 119 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I just don't I can't see that happening. So it again, 120 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: it's just I think to me, it really shows the 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: flexibility the NFL is willing to show with these decisions 122 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: and not really locking themselves into one way of thinking 123 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: when this thing is just changing with each passing week. 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Are you concerned at all that with every decision that 125 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: the NFL has made has been a blanket decision for 126 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: all thirty two teams. You know, we're not going to 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: open a facility until all thirty two teams can get 128 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: into their facilities. We're not going this is how we're 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: going to do the draft, and everybody, this is how 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: the draft is going to go. This is how the 131 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: virtual off season is going to go. There won't be 132 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: in person camps. Um. Are you concerned at all that 133 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is branching out too much and instead of 134 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: making one rule for everybody, that they're being a little 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: more flexible. I'm not really concerned about that, because the 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: game day experience is different everywhere you go. In normal circumstances, 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: you can't you can't force a city to sell out 138 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: every game. I mean, you just can't, like and you 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: can't force a place to be equally as loud as 140 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: as another stand. So I think this is where you 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: can use the unique game day atmospheres. Is is still 142 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: playing into that. So I'm not too concerned about that, 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: and I think based on what we've learned these last 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: few months, I think it's obviously the best decision they 145 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: made was to wait on letting these people back in facilities, 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: because I think you really have to get everything order 147 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: in order from a health standpoint, to ensure that you're 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: doing things the right way and not really having a 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: college football scenario where one team does one thing, another 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: team does one other thing, because when you're all doing 151 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: things the same uniform way, I think that allows you 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: to use the best possible practices, Whereas I just don't 153 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: think it's possible at the college football level to get 154 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: everyone on the same level because not everyone has the 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: same amount of money. And so my advice to Brown's 156 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: fans would be where your mask, maintain your safe distance, 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: wash your hands, don't touch your face in public, and 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get a chance to watch the Brown's football 159 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Here I said again, the season still is what now 160 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: two full months away, a lot and change, and I 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: think that there's that's why I'm still optimistic about about 162 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: what the game day experience might be be like for 163 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: the for this season, what what what the season could 164 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: look like, and it's it's just going to be different. 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: And I think we have to come to grips with that. 166 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: And I think that I'm not down in the pessimistical 167 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: on any of this with you know, I think I'm 168 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: optimistic about all these sports getting off the ground in 169 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. And you just have to 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: be flexible, and you just have to understand that, you know, 171 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the breaking news these guys, there's gonna be some positive tests. 172 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: It's just inevitable. But it's how you deal with it 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: and prevent a widesprent UH contamination. Exactly how quickly you 174 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: can get to the problem, fix the problem, isolate the 175 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: problem will be the biggest test. So alright, time now 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: for our get to know you spotlight. We've been getting 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: to know some of the coaches, some of the front 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: officers personnel that are new in Maria or continue to 179 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: be working from home UH. And right now it's a 180 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: chance to sit down with New Brown's defensive line coach, 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin. Chris the younger brother of Lane Kiffin and 182 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the son of the great Monty Kiffen, So a lot 183 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: of expertise. The guy has been around, He's seemed quite 184 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: a bit and you're gonna learn something or two in 185 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: this interview. Have a watch and have a listen. And 186 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: here on the Best Podcast available as we get to 187 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: know our new coaching staff and a lot of members 188 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: of our new front office as well. Happy to be 189 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: joined on this week's edition of the v p A 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: by new defensive line coach Chris Kiffen Coach. Appreciate a 191 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: few minutes of your time. Uh, we were just talking 192 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: before we went on, and the work from home continues 193 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: even for you right now, And I think for a 194 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of the coaches, and you mentioned it, it's just 195 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: a little bit easier with everything already all set up 196 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: for you as opposed to trying to navigate the waters 197 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: in Maria at the facility with everything going on there. Yeah, 198 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I think for me and I think for some of 199 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: the assistants that just kind of made sense. We're still 200 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: doing our Zoom meetings with the players and to be 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: able to just keep our remote set up the same 202 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: and not try to go to the office and set 203 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: up a new one to basically do the same thing 204 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: we're doing from home. So for us it made sense. 205 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: But I understand why the head coach general manager in 206 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: there getting things and getting the feel for how it 207 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: needs to look come training camp. How much of you 208 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: improved as a Zoom virtual instructor from the beginning of 209 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: this to to now. UM, I think we've all improved something. 210 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: But I definitely have. Um. I mean at first I 211 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: had no idea what it was. And after a week, 212 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, my my wife, her family, all the in 213 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: laws thought how cool it was we could go all 214 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: get in the zoom and my kids were in here 215 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: on it. So, um, I think for everybody it's goind 216 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: of been a eye opener of what you can get done. 217 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: But you know, the different apps that we can hook 218 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: up to quiz these guys to test them. Um, there's 219 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: a virtual whiteboard I used every day to draw plays 220 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: and to teach schemes to the guys, So that part 221 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: has been really smooth. So but just like anything, a 222 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: little practice and practice doesn't make perfect and make it better. 223 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: So I know, when I talked to a couple of 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: months ago, you had not really been able to meet 225 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: many of the players. But what have you gotten to 226 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: know about your group and what do you like about 227 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: them from just the personality standpoint? Just like any group, 228 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, you have a bunch of different guys in there, 229 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: so it's it's gonna be a uh, just you know, 230 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: a mess of a bunch of different personality. But um, 231 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I would I would say that that part is the 232 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: challenging part. Um you know, as you guys probably in 233 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: your background too, with all these zoom meetings, you know, 234 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: you have different guys that come in, all the microphones 235 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: are muted, and then you know you have one teacher, 236 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: and so there's not the u I heard about some 237 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: other NFL teams trying to mimic the locker room of 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: keeping the mics on for the first five minutes, things 239 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: like that, So you've got to think outside the box 240 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: to try to get the norm so they can clown 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: around with each other and this type of environment. So 242 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: we kind of missed out on that a little bit. 243 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: But just you know, obviously I've had time to get 244 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: to know them individually through phone conversations and whatnot. I'm 245 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: just really excited about the group as a whole. The 246 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: different guys, we got different veterans, a different young guys, 247 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: some of the pieces we added this offseason to come 248 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: in and and then you know, just the ultimate pros 249 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: and the way they've come in and this so very 250 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: excited about it. Chris Kiffin is our guest, our new 251 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: defensive line coach, here on the best podcast available. Coach. 252 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned and I've read it a couple of times 253 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: through through various things, media, publications and whatnot. The importance 254 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: of teaching and the importance of getting everybody on the 255 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: same page and for people to have success. Even last 256 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: year when you were with the forty nine ers, a 257 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: case of instructing and teaching and making sure that the 258 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: message is getting through and guys understand what they're doing 259 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: when they hit the field. How important has it taking 260 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: on an added importance of teaching during this time when 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: you can't do many camps and volunteering workouts and things 262 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: along those lines. Absolutely, there's uh, there's a lot of 263 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: elements that go to that. So, um it's been challenging 264 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: this off season because we're missing me on the field 265 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: element and you know, we did are We had them 266 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: um send videos of themselves working out and doing drills, 267 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: but it's so it's still so hard when you're not 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: out there with them hands on getting to know each 269 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: other because every guy takes you know, learns different and 270 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: everybody's technique is different, and you're trying to mold everybody's 271 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: style of play to fit into the scheme. You're trying 272 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: to implement and it's tough, especially with the situation that 273 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: we had. So, um, that's just something I totally believed 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: in from a young age. My father taught me that 275 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: as a coach, how important teaching is and and how 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: everybody learns at different levels. And at the end of 277 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: the day, you know, it's our job to get them 278 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: prepared mentally Sunday so they can perform and do what 279 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: they do on Sundays. You mentioned your dad, I was wondering, 280 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: what could you imagine him operating under these circumstances and 281 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: using using the technology to his advantage. Um, he is. 282 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: He's like the typical grandpa who's just faces way too 283 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: heavy on the on the that we have had him 284 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: on a couple of times, and he's actually still helping 285 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: my brother at Old Miss, so he Uh. They've sent 286 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: some screenshots of him on the Zoom meetings and a 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of time he's even not on the picture or 288 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: he's way too in the picture. But it's pretty funny. 289 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: And if you talk to I mean, you mentioned your 290 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: your brother and he's obviously at Old Miss right now, 291 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: are you guys able to share like what works maybe 292 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: what doesn't in these kind of circumstances and how does 293 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: that does that play out? Yeah, I just I think 294 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: it's so different, um the landscape everything, because they're trying 295 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: to bring people back on campus right now as you 296 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: see that in college football, what's going on. How challenging 297 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: that is, especially college kids and you know what they're 298 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: doing outside of the building and whatnot. So but yeah, 299 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: they've shared in the same issues, just like l s 300 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: U and these other programs you're seeing popping up. So 301 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody's learning daily from everybody else's experiences. 302 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: But I think the NFL has a good grasp on 303 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We've covered that in Stephans 304 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like when we come back in 305 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: for training camp, and you know, we're gonna embrace the 306 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: stuck and we're gonna be ready to dive in when 307 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: when they let us come back. What made this position 308 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: and this job appealing to you. I mean, you're coming 309 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: off a year with the forty Niners and and a 310 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: in a trip to the Super Bowl under Kyle Shanahan. UM, 311 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: a lot of success at the college level as well. Uh, 312 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: definitely had options. What what made this job most appealing 313 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: to you. Um you know, I me personally, I go 314 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: back to watching, uh I do. I watched a lot 315 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: of the NFL Network films on people, and I remember 316 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: watching Belichick at his time in Cleveland and Saban and 317 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: those guys in the room and you know how getting 318 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: it turn around, things like that, and so that always 319 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of that sparked my interest about Cleveland. And then, um, 320 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, when it all went down, just hearing all 321 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: the good things people had to say about Coacht to Fantsky. 322 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: We had some people in the building that are worked 323 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: from before um in and obviously Joe Wood's being right 324 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: down the hall from me all year, being able to 325 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: work with him daily, you know, because obviously he's a 326 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: coverage guy and me being a front guy, and you 327 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: know how we were able to work together last season. 328 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: So it just kind of all fit like a glove. 329 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: And then and then my wife and I are kind 330 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: of Midwest people, and on a map we're like, Okay, 331 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: well that's kind of Northeast. But I've heard people say 332 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: it feels like Midwest, and we got here and it 333 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: absolutely does. So right now we're just we're on cloud nine. 334 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: We love it. And how how have you liked how 335 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: this defensive staff is kind of come together, and what 336 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: do you like about about the group you're working with? Oh, 337 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: we got a good group, really good group. The you know, 338 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: knowing a couple of guys Harvor and Ben Boom and 339 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: Um and then obviously the other guys we added Jeff 340 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't know them ahead of time, 341 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: and then we were able to interview brand. But it's 342 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: a really solid group, like we talked about before being 343 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: able to teach Um. But you know, we've got to 344 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: spend a couple of weeks together before the offices were closed, 345 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: and uh, you know that's always an interesting time when 346 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: you bring a bunch of you guys in from all 347 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: different schemes and whatnot. And Joe did a great job. Hey, 348 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this like the Niners were gonna do 349 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: this like the Vikings. We're gonna do this like we 350 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: did at Denver. And it's gonna mess him. It's gonna 351 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: be great and and we all have a voice in there, 352 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: we all have to say. But at the same time, 353 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of egos in that room. 354 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: I see a lot of guys just want to mesh well, 355 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: together and pull in the same direction and your assistant 356 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: defensive line coach. You go back a long ways with 357 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: with with Jeremy and in his past did you think 358 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: he had he was going to be a coach back 359 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: when when you first met him, and what what was 360 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: it like getting him his first NFL opportunity at this level? 361 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: It was so interesting that you know how it came 362 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: down because I was a graduate assistant at Ole Miss, 363 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: he was still playing and to see him and and 364 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: they have some really good players on that belone, Greg 365 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Hardy and Parade Jerry and some guys that played in 366 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: the NFL for a while. But and Jeremy was he 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't an NFL guy, but he was 368 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: the hard worker, overachiever, did everything right, knew this game. Um, 369 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, he was the glue that kept that crazy 370 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: group together. And then to see him, you know he 371 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: had We tried to get him down at Old Miss 372 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: a number of times because he was right up the 373 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: street in Nashville. But his wife had a good job, 374 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: he had a good job at a high school there, 375 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: and then he made his jump to Vanderbilt, Um, you know, 376 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: last season and then you know when when this came open. 377 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: We were looking for the guy. He just is a 378 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: perfect exactly what we're looking for. Somebody who was hungry 379 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get in and somebody that I already knew, 380 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: has the right character, has the right work ethic. So 381 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: it was a perfect fit for US coach. In two 382 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, the national recruiter Recruiter of the Year 383 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: scout dot com. Uh, what do you look for in players? 384 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: Whether whether it was at the college level or at 385 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: the pro level? What do you look for in a 386 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: football player when you're talking to him about free agency, 387 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: whether you're going through the draft process, What are you 388 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: looking for in guys, especially on the defensive line. I 389 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: know it's the it's the simple answer, but the number 390 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: one thing I always say to people that asked that 391 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: is good football players like and I'm not stepping on 392 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the scouts toes because I do believe in the size 393 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: speed ratio and speed and height and length and all 394 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: that stuff. But at the end of the day, you 395 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: can chase that you know forever and not get what 396 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: you want if they're not a good football player. Guys 397 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: that can just get it done. And going back to 398 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: my dad and Pete Carroll and guys that they played 399 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: with in the Super Bowl nose tackles there were six 400 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: ft tall that nobody would even sign off the street, 401 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: and they get him in there and they're starting in 402 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, just guys that can play the game, tough, gritty, passionate, 403 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: effort right attitude and then obviously guys that have intangibles 404 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and length and speed. At this level you have to 405 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: have most of those things. But at the end of 406 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: the day, just somebody you can rely on. It's a 407 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: damn good player. Looking at your group, now, what what 408 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: have you gotten to know about Myles Garrett now after 409 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: seeing him from Afar and now now you get to 410 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: to coach, and what what have you learned about him? 411 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: At least? Humble? Um? You know he's eager to learn, 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: he's motivated. Yeah, he's got big goals for this next season. 413 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep those between me and him. But you know, 414 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: he's just a guy that I'm really excited to coach. 415 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: But um, the main thing for me walking in was 416 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: how humbly was you know? From Afar? You never really 417 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: know until you get to know somebody. Um, but he's 418 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: a humble guy. It just wants to work and obviously 419 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: one of the most talented players in the league, one 420 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: of the freakiest athletes have seen in that position. And 421 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: you know he can still get better. And that's the 422 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: crazy thing. So excited to get our hands on them 423 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: and actually get on that field and work with them 424 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: to see see how high we can help them go. 425 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: And then another guy in your your group that kind 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: of has a unique experience, and that's Adrian Clayborne added 427 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: to the team. I mean, what what can I what 428 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: can a veteran like that do to help a guy 429 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: like Miles and really help your group overall. On my 430 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: exit meeting yesterday with him, I told him, you know, 431 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: we're so excited about a bunch of things, but your 432 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: versatility number one, like be able to go inside third down, 433 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: can be a great rushler, to be able to go 434 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: inside when we're in the teams you want to play 435 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: fair defense, um the backup at left hand, at right 436 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: in and to get in the mix. And just you 437 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: know how much experience he has. And then when I 438 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: was using the example before about the guys coming in 439 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: and messing right away, I'm talking about him like he's 440 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the ultimate pro. He just comes in, he works, He's consistent. Uh, 441 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: not the most vocal guy in the room, but that's 442 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: okay because the younger guys see what he's doing every day, 443 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: how consistent he is, and that that speaks volume. So 444 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: super excited about him. He will have a big time 445 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: role with us, and and uh, we'll see. Yeah, I 446 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: would say to the the inside guys, Uh, you know, 447 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: we go out and we get billings in the offseason, 448 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: and then you've got a guy like Ogan Joby who 449 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: quietly goes about his business and does his thing, and 450 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson who's seeing a lot of success done at all. Uh, 451 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the inside and the interior of that 452 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: defensive line, Yeah, I think we've got a great rotation 453 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: set up. In this day and age, you've got to 454 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: be able to rotate guys through game, especially when offenses 455 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: want to go tempo, and but even when they're not 456 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: going to tempo to beat in the trenches for you know, 457 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: sixties seventies snaps, the game is too much. So you've 458 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: got to have too deep at at both inside positions. 459 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, we use a third 460 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: round pick on one Jordan that we're super excited about 461 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: a very good athlete with all the intangibles we talked about, size, speed, length, um. 462 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: And then Larry, just Larry is so hungry. I mean 463 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: he just works and works and works and works, and uh, 464 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, and then those other guys. Obviously, Sheldon has 465 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: so much experience, a very good player. Um, you know that. 466 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking to try to help him be even better. 467 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: And then uh, and then you add Andrew as the 468 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: fourth car right now as a backup. But the guy 469 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: who can press these starters, you know, they can come 470 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: in and compete. He will be a dominant run defender. 471 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: But I'm going to challenge him to be able to 472 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback as well. So and then we 473 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: got some guys down the line inside too that makes 474 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: some noise. So I'm super excited about it. Competition gonna 475 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: make all of them better. I just can't wait to 476 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: get to work with him. Well, what's the biggest challenge 477 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: guy like Jordan's faced is because of these circumstances. Yeah, 478 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if it's just learned the playbook. 479 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Everybody says learned the playbook, you missed the walk through 480 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: elements of it and all that. But Uh, but really 481 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: the style of play, I think, Um, we're gonna change 482 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: his stance a little bit, we're gonna change his techniques, 483 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: his eyes, his hands. So it's just slight things that 484 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: when you don't get to work in the off season together, 485 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: which we always do in O. P A s and whatnot. Um, 486 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: that hurts a little bit, but you know that's just 487 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna be for him and I had to spend extra 488 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: time together when we do get together and to make 489 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: sure all those things get done. But he's super sharp, 490 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: you know. He he aceds final exam, so to call 491 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: it the other day for a rookie, like, he's really 492 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: sharp and he's picking it up fast, so that that 493 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: problem would be a problem for him. And then with 494 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: with all your guys, what what about what Joe wants 495 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: to run on defense? What what do what do you 496 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: like about that when it pertains the defensive line. Yeah, 497 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna cut them loose. We're gonna attack, and we're 498 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna play fast, and we're gonna try to 499 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: play an opponents back to and the old Saints tackle 500 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: running back on the way to the quarterback. Um, you 501 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: know I believe that because we do have to stop 502 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: the run with great technique and whatnot. Especially in this conference. 503 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: You don't stop running. It be a long day. But 504 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: but we gotta affect the quarterback this day and age. 505 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: If you're not affecting the quarterback and his completion percentage 506 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: is high and he's he's feel uncomfortable all day, it's 507 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna make for a long day for your defense. So 508 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna let him play free. Obviously, we're gonna be disciplined, 509 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna coach those things, but we're gonna let these 510 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: guys play to their talents and we're gonna attack like 511 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: crazy and and then mix it up some one third 512 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: down and have some good schemes to go with it. 513 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: And then and then what we have to do. It's 514 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: our job as coaches to put our best guys in 515 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: best position to win. So we gotta find mismatches across 516 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: the board up front, and we gotta pick on their 517 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: week links every Sunday and things like that. But we're 518 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna let them to one final one coach, and we'll 519 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: let you go. We appreciate the time today. New defensive 520 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: line coach Chris Kiffin, our guest coach. Have you told Miles. 521 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: He needs to stop dunking over people and providing is 522 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: there and is there such a thing as lifting too 523 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: much weight? Uh? With Miles Garrett, you know, I think 524 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: that's just a hair about my pay grade. I let 525 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: We've got some great string coaches that talked to him 526 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: about all that stuff. But as soon as I've seen 527 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson running and jumping over at jet Ski, I 528 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: don't think anything can top that. There's a lot of 529 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: people holding their breath on that video. So yeah, we'll 530 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: let Miles be Miles, and and I know he's had 531 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous offsetsiones in the weight room and doing his stuff. 532 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: So looking forward to all these guys getting back. Coach, 533 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, welcome to Cleveland and look forward 534 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to getting you in the building and looking forward to 535 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: eventually all of us being in the building and getting 536 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: training camp going a little over a month from now. 537 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, enjoy these a few weeks here 538 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see you soon and best wishes here. Thank 539 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: you very much, guys. You guys have a great day 540 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: and go Brown. I want to thank Chris Kiffin for 541 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: his time and again Gribbs, just like most of the 542 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff continues to work from home, but as he said, 543 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: it's easier than trying to come into the office and 544 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: and work around some of the logistics and some of 545 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: what's happening because he's got everything already set up and 546 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: everything's working fine from a teaching standpoint at his home. Yeah, games, 547 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: I've got Uh. I've been working just on my laptop 548 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: since we've been here. But when I go to the office, 549 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: I have two monitors, and when I came home, I 550 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: had these grand ambitions of setting up my two monitors 551 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: set up like I have the office. Uh, it's still 552 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: sitting on the floor in my in our third floor. 553 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: So I am dreading that part of going back in 554 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: the office and having to set up my station again. 555 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can get some help from our i 556 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: T staff when we get back there, because I'm not 557 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: good at that stuff. So I can understand why once 558 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: you get something going at home and you figured out 559 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: your circumstances, I don't blame for for not going in 560 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: and and and and trying to mess with what's been working, 561 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: especially once you figure it out. So that's that's that's 562 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: good to hear, and I think that it'll be It'll 563 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: just be interesting once now, once all these guys do 564 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: get back, how they adapt. And because I still think 565 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: your your normal way of meeting with the players is 566 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: going to be different this year. I think they're gonna 567 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: be You'll probably have to be as virtual as possible 568 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: to just kind of avoid these situations where we're all 569 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: crammed in the room together. Yeah, it's going to look 570 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: very different from everything that we've been told. And Gribble 571 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: and I haven't been back. We think it's fifteen weeks now. 572 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: We uh, we're we're on the verge of playing a 573 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: whole season here from home. So uh, it's going to 574 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Other big takeaways from Chris Kiffin, 575 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: who I thought it was really good And here's a 576 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: guy with a lot of experience from the college level 577 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: but also has done it at the highest level of 578 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the National Football League, you know, taking taking control that 579 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: forty defensive line last year on their Super Bowl run. Yeah, 580 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, I like what he had to say about 581 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne. I thought that was an interesting thing that 582 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: not the biggest name signing the Browns made this offseason, 583 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: but I think it's a valuable addition to the group, 584 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: because that the defensive line is like suddenly one of 585 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: the more veteran groups on the entire team. And I 586 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: think having someone with his level of experience can can 587 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: really help and and really fills the void you had 588 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: it from last year when you really didn't have a 589 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: reliable third down pass rush around the team. So I 590 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: think Claiborne's presence could be huge if he can continue 591 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: to do what he's done these last few years in 592 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: that role, which I think is the best suited for him, 593 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: that can make this defensive line very good and like 594 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: he said, very versatile. That he can play on the 595 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: inside too, and and open things up for for Miles 596 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: and Olivier and and and Sheldon and Larry out there. 597 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that can help, uh make that 598 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: group as good as people think it could be. I also, 599 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: the big takeaway I had it, I think he's pretty 600 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: high on the rookies on in that defensive line room, 601 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: both the undrafted and the drafted. And I think you 602 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: asked him a great question about, you know, the struggles 603 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: of learning things, and all indications are that the rookies 604 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: have been on top of things, and yeah, they're gonna 605 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: need a little extra time and they're gonna need a 606 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: little more hands on work once they get to the 607 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: building and once we get to training camp. But there's 608 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: some guys that can make an impact in that defensive 609 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: line room here. Yeah, and it goes along with I 610 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: think what chad O'Shea said last week with they're gonna 611 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: have a window to impress, and if you don't impress 612 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: during that window, they're probably gonna have to not move on. 613 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: But like, focus on the guys that are gonna be 614 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: able to help this year. It's not gonna you're not 615 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna have the same lead up time or same ability 616 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: to work through the mistakes that you did, because you've 617 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: got to maximize every bit of time you get with 618 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: these guys on the field. And I think from from 619 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: a defensive line perspective, I mean those guys get work 620 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: during training camp. I mean one on fundamentals technique. I mean, 621 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: these guys are on the sled as much as anyone 622 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and that's something you simply can't do during this period. 623 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: So I think for the defensive line especially, they need 624 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: to get on the field and make the most at 625 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: that time whenever they can. Yeah, Nope, I would agree 626 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: with that, I think it's also good that he has 627 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: that relationship with Joe Woods, and we've talked about on 628 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the offensive side, the guys that have a relationship with 629 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski uh and some of the veteran coaches he's 630 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: brought in. Chris Kiffin is a guy that knows quite 631 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: a bit about this. And you know, I found it 632 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: interesting yesterday or the other day when we recorded with 633 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: him and he said, you know, the forty nine or 634 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: defensive line was really good, but it's all about the 635 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: teaching part. And once they figured out what we were 636 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: trying to teach them and what we wanted them to do, 637 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: the sky was the limit, he said. The talents there. 638 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with our room, you know, 639 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: with with Miles and Olivier and Sheldon and Oga Job 640 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and Clayborne and company. You know, is if they understood 641 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: the offseason in virtual offseason program and the teachings and 642 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: they've got that down, then we're really going to see 643 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: these guys take the next step, especially Miles Garrett. It 644 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: sounds like yeah, I mean, I um, I would he 645 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell us the goals that he has for Miles 646 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: this year, but I'm curious because I think that Miles 647 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: is as motivated as ever. I mean, this is that 648 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: he should be coming into the prime of his NFL 649 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: career right now. I mean this, you know, this could 650 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: be a really interesting year, big year for Miles, and 651 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that that it's pretty understood that now is 652 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: the time to really start wrecking some games in that position. Yeah, 653 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: no question. And again, the defensive line has gone from 654 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: you know what we thought a year ago was a 655 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: deep room to an even deeper room, and a room 656 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: that you know you can't I mean, you can't afford 657 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: to lose a guy like Miles, but and you really don't. 658 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want injuries. But if there is 659 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: an injury, and in training camp guys get injured, you 660 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: do have some guys now behind them, behind those starters 661 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: and those frontline guys that you have quite a bit 662 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: of confidence and that can get the job done. Yeah. 663 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: I think we we saw a lot from Chad Thomas 664 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: last year. I think he's poised to to really help 665 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: out as well. We don't talk a lot about him, 666 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: but I mean you just need to you need to 667 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: be able to survive those things. And I think that 668 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: the line as constructed last year, it wasn't able to 669 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: do it. And I think that most defensive lines would 670 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: not have been able to survive what happened to that 671 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: group last year. But it really, I mean, the defense 672 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: just was a mess at the end of last year. 673 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't stop anyone that the Cardinals game was just 674 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: the one that was especially tough to watch. So you've 675 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: just got to be able to survive. No one, can 676 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: you just survive like three injuries. You should be able 677 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: to survive a couple though, even if it is your 678 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: best player, you've gotta be able to work around that, 679 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: uh and be able to keep your defense at least 680 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: stabilized from that. Yeah, no question, And Kiffen was, you know, 681 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get after after the quarterback, We're gonna rush, 682 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna put pressure up the middle and around the ends. 683 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: But he also made it clear you've got to stop 684 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: the run, and you got to stop the run in 685 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: this division if you want to win football games and 686 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: you want to go to the playoffs. So that will 687 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: be something to watch as well. This run defense struggled 688 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: definitely down the stretch, and injuries and absences were a 689 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: big part of that final thoughts here, Dak Prescott signs 690 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: his thirty one point four million dollar franchise tender. The 691 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: two sides have until July to work out a long 692 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: term deal, otherwise they must wait until the end of 693 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: the season. Gribbs, the clock is taking. What are the odds? 694 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: What what percentage would you put Dak Prescott signs a 695 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: long term deal before July? You know, maybe I just 696 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: because he there's there's an argument where he should not 697 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: worry about it, play the season and he could really 698 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: cash in when he has them in a situation where 699 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: they have no choice but to bring him back. But 700 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: at the same time, you don't want to regress and 701 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: then not be worth as much. But at the same time, 702 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't get hurt, imagine his value 703 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: is going to remain the same. I mean, he's he's 704 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback in a league that has about 705 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: twenty of them, and there's always, you know, the demand 706 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: for for a player of his caliber. So I don't 707 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: know what they're I would think Dallas is maybe more 708 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: incentivized to lock him up at this point. But it's 709 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: a tricky one. That franchise has a big one, but 710 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's huge. I mean it's a huge 711 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: amount of money for Dak because Dak hasn't made a 712 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: ton of money at this point. I mean he was 713 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: what a fourth a fifth round pick. I mean that's 714 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: that's huge money for Dak compared to what he's made 715 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: so far. And that Cowboys offense, we all think it's 716 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna be really good this year. I mean, he he's 717 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: poised to have a huge year, so he if he 718 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: wants to bet on himself that that would be interesting, 719 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: and also be interesting if he wants to pursue with 720 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys a Kirk Cousins type deal where it's like 721 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: three years all guaranteed, uh, and then get back in 722 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: the market again. It's just I think it's all about 723 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: the confidence yourself, and also something has to take anto account. 724 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: What's the salary cap gonna look like beyond this year? 725 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: That that could be the incentive for Dak to lock 726 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: this up. Now, that that would if you're playing that 727 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: that card you want to lock it up down. So 728 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: really this one as up in the air as possible. 729 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: But at least they know that they've got him for 730 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: this year and know what to worry about about. This year. 731 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: That's is he is he the top ten quarterback in 732 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I think he's borderline. Uh, but 733 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: if you are that, that means you are invaluable to 734 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: your team. If you're a top ten quarterback and lean, 735 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: that means your team has to have you. I mean, 736 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: so that that's that's where he is so valuable and will. 737 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: When you're in that top ten range in Europe for 738 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: a contract, odds are you're probably signing the biggest deal 739 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: in NFL history because that's just what works. That's just 740 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: what happens at the quarterback position if you just take 741 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: turns with everyone signing these big deals. So I think 742 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: he's in that range where he is so vitally important 743 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, where if you take him away from 744 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys this year, you don't think they're a playoff 745 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: team and you put him on the team there, there's 746 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: suddenly a super Bowl contenders. That that's how that's how 747 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: important he is, and that's that's how I kind of 748 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: qualified the quarterback rankings. Yeah, I just I don't know 749 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: what to make of him. I mean, he put up 750 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: some great numbers last year, and I know that there's 751 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of drama around that football team and a 752 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of things that he's got to put up with. 753 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: And I just found it interesting. You know, the Cowboys 754 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: extended all these players, but yet didn't lock up the 755 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: franchise guy, the one guy that you have to lock up. 756 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have to give Zeke the big deal, 757 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: but you did. Cooper got a big deal. Didn't need to, 758 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: but you did, especially since you drafted cdee Land. I 759 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: just I take a look at all of that with 760 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I'm like, what what is the hold 761 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: up here? You know, and that just wanting to be 762 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: the top highest paid quarterback, which he shouldn't be the 763 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the NFL, But I don't know. 764 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: And it's a weird situation there. Yeah, when you lock 765 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: up those other offensive guys, I mean, what are you 766 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: doing if you're not going to get the quarterback? I mean, 767 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: that's why, that's why they have to have him. I mean, 768 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: I I it's not about fairness on what you should 769 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: pay him. You gotta pay him with the market demands, 770 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: and your your decision is to have him or to 771 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: not have him. It's not like you can let him 772 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: go and then go get a better quarterback. You're not. 773 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. So that's that's the situation you're in. 774 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, so that's why they've They've got no choice. 775 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: It's just I think up to Dock to find a 776 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: time where they can agree on it and what's most 777 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: beneficial for him long term. I think that's the that's 778 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: the decision that has to be made on his end. 779 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: But he knows this year he's making a ton of money. Yeah, 780 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: no question about it. It'll be something to watch here 781 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks because we're not sure 782 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: exactly how much there is going to be to watch. 783 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: I think teams are gonna scatter here for a few 784 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: weeks and get some final days in before things really 785 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: start to heat up. And it's gonna come, and it's 786 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: gonna come very quickly once we get some direction from 787 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: the National Football League. 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