1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's What You Really Missed podcast. Oh 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: my gosh, we have another new Bee today. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: We have the new Bee. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 3: Today we have Josie Tota, who literally is I was 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: watching this episode, the Josie's first episode as Myron, and 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: it's it's unhinged. It's absolutely unhinged, but it's so funny. 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I didn't I. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: Don't think at the time I knew what to make 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: of it, like on the show, because you're like, how 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: are we having like a thirteen year old kid on 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: our show in high school? Like it just feels crazy. Yeah, 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Dougie Hazer was a hit, but like really 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: ages me. But Josie's absolutely amazing and I am I 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: can't wait for you hear this conversation. 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: And Josie's presence always the reason why Josie like just 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: stayed on TV at that age. It was just booking 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: things left and right, because like she had such a 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: presence and like could come in as a thirteen year 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: old and like take over. 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also like having parents like hers, who you'll 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: hear in the conversation sounds like like starter with a 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 3: really good foundation to be really a person on top 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: of like being wildly successful. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, anyway, here's a conversation. 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, hi everyone, woh's so beautiful. 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: Literally, please your I'm dying. I'm like, forgive me more. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: No, it looks it's a dewey it's a dewey skin glowy. 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Look, there's what I. 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Live above, an elementary school, so I'm just watching young 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: children in a very no New York. Yeah, I moved 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: to New York. 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Really, Like the other day, I was like someone was 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: asking about it. I was like, well, the trip has 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: been really nice, and they're like, you're not on a 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: trip like you pay rent, but like I feel like 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: I've been here for long enough at a time, like 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm here for like two weeks that I'm somewhere else. 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Well because she's booked and busy. 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: Not even like I'm the most busiest unemployed person you'll 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: ever meet in your. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Least, you know what I say? 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say. 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: Are we are we having a duel? 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: Employed and busy? 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: So wait, how are you guys? How are you good? 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: How are you? 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: It is so long I know, because did we even meet. 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: I think we met once, right one on the day 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: where everyone was a final day. 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: You came up to me at Elton John's after party. 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Is it last year? 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, two years ago? 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and you were like, do you remember me? Of 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: course I remember you? Are you kidding me? 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: It's always interesting when you when you switch like who 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: remembers you and doesn't, and so sometimes you kind of 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 4: just have to like you. I always just say nice 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: to meet you, because I don't want anyone to feel bad. 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I actually do all the time too. 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Well, because you also switch genders. Yeah exactly, no, but 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, Johnna, it's yeah, it's 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: to save the awkwardness, right, yeah exactly. 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Let me just like help you out and like. 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Not yeah, but I think what has been helpful is 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: that you just haven't stopped like working is what it 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: looks like. I know, there's the appearance of like what 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: work is, and then there's the actuality of you feeling 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: like you might not be working. But it was like 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: I knew you from the show. Yeah, and we'll get there. 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: But like you came in the show. It came on 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: the show in like a big way, and like We're 75 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: such a presence even if I wasn't working with you 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, and then every time I saw you, 77 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, this little bitch. 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: Yes, like a memorable thing from the show. And then 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: also just like the continuit, we like see you all 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: the time. 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also like a proud you know, like 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: anybody who's on that show your family, regardless of how much, Yeah, 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: we interacted and. 84 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: So yes we're out there. 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 86 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: Oh that's so sweet of you to say thank you. 87 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh please, you were just a mini mogul. We were 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: just talking before you got on, Like, yeah, remember when 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: Josie wasn't Saved by the Beltin was a. 90 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: Producer on the show, like writing, honestly, that was nuts. 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: I mean to think about that era of my life. 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: I was eighteen, Like I was having a smoothie for breakfast, lunch, 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: and dinner. Oh, I'm not an assistant anyway, nothing to 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: do with me. I just texted her. Her name was 95 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: Kylie's erin shout out Kylie and I because this reminded 96 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: me of for some reason. And she would do my 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: homework for me because I was in college, and I 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: just like, because that's all they like paid for mess. 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: I was like, what am I to have her do 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: other than you know, do my homework. I come homework 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: and shine my shoes. 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 4: And then but anyway, that era of my life was crazy. 104 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: And then getting to do it with my best friend 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: who was on that show with me, her name's Alicia, 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: was amazing. And yeah I still work with Tracy, the 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: girl who the girl, she's a grown woman with the 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: woman who created that show. I still work with her 109 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: to this day. 110 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Oh amazing. 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: You haven't stopped working together, which has been so amazing. 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: And that is how you know that somebody is a 113 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: good person is because people burned bridges left and right. 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: It's a small business. Everybody talks. And the fact that 115 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: you have created a work friendship in that way and 116 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: it's lasted, it speaks to your character. 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so sweet now you're eighteen, that's crazy. 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: During Save by the Bell, Yeah, I mean, would you also. 119 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: A sophomore in college? And I mean I remember I 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: went to the first table read of Save by the Bell. 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: The morning after I went to this this like festival 122 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: in La called Rolling loud Ye, which is very against 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: type for me. Like that's something that I've always struggled 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: with because the fact that everyone thought I was a 125 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: gay boy for so much of my life and obviously, 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: like I made a career out of being a gay boy, 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Like I never came out as gay in my personal life, 128 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: Like no one everyone knew that I was trans. Like 129 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: I was four years old when I like talked really 130 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: my parents for the first time. 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting, but so people just assumed that 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: you were, just assume a gay boy. 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: And there's an interview on Wendy Williams that I did, 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: no one hunt for it. But now I've just set 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: myself up for failure because everyone probably will. But I mean, 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: that's iconic in and of itself. But she kind of 137 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: was like being gay, and I was like, or I 138 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: could be by or trans and like so it's like 139 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: it's always been a thing the market that I kind 140 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: of cornered in a really weird way. 141 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Oh you not kind of you did? Yeah that was 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: your Yeah, that corner. 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: My own little corner. 144 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 4: So funny, that's really funny. It was it was something 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: that like my friends, now you know, maybe you know 146 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: miss Benny. She's amazing. She was glamorous and did a 147 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: bunch of other things. But she's one of my best 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: friends now and she also was a gay boy, or 149 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: was perceived as that, and so she talks about it 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: being like when I would walk into the audition room, 151 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: all the gay boys would be like, well, we'll just 152 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: let's just see now. And then I had like my 153 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: straight counterpart. His name is Thomas Barbuska. We're still friends, 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: and so with us, it was always like if they 155 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: went straight, it was Thomas if they would So it 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: was funny a little. It was a good community that 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: I had. That sounds so crazy. 158 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: It makes it makes me people aren't used to like, 159 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, the like audi, I hate say, auditioning circuit, 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: whatever it is you I know, but like you always 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: see the same people because you're always going out for 162 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: the same types, Like you're just the type. Yeah, I 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 2: always had my person that I was always a person 164 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: when I was younger, like younger younger, it was this 165 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: guy named Bobby Edner, okay, because I don't know that 166 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: much better actor, like of drama. So if it was 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: like drama, it would go to him. If it was comedy, 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: it was usually me, okay, and so and I'll be 169 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: like he was straight when I was like hiding right, 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: so right, so he did he do it? Yeah? Probably? 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: I think that was. Yeah, I didn't know what I 172 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: was doing. 173 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: And when did you start acting? 174 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: Like fourth grade? 175 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: Oh so super young as well? 176 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was. But I feel like how did 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: you start? 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: Like? 179 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: How did because when you were Unglee? How old are you? 180 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: I was thirteen or fourteen? I might have been thirteen 181 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: when I was cast in fourteen, which is so crazy 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: to think about because I was just like with people 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: in their late twenties and yeah, thirty yeah, And I 184 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 4: mean I watched Glee when it first came out in 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: my I was a newborn when I was three months 186 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: old in the hospital room. No, in my childhood home, 187 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: before I had ever moved to LA, before I had 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: aspirations of acting the way. And I mean, I have 189 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: a photo. 190 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I have a photo, a photo, Oh my god. 191 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: And it's it's of me and my two childhood best 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: friends who I'm still friends with this day. I'm getting 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: dinner with them tomorrow night. And it was it was 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: it was the Glee tour, I think, or maybe it 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: was like when it first Anderson I was eight years old. 196 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: James, Okay, we have to go now. 197 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: I have to go now wow, and it makes me 198 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't feel that insane because like you're a lot 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: younger than us, Like, yeah, that's close for yourself, you know, 200 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: like that's not even close. 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: When you did season one twenty twenty. Yeah, so you're 202 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: in my age, Jenna. 203 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, not to think that. 204 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: Wait, sorry, wow, now. 205 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it was so great. 206 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: It's crazy, like that wasn't It's not you, it'stmely young. 207 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's what I was trying to say. 208 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: You should be twenty playing high school. That's like that 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: feels right. 210 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty normal. 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: But okay, so you weren't thirteen, but you were living. 212 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: You would watch Glee from when you were before you 213 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: even had aspirations. So during the duration of Lee before 214 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: you came, there was a whole arc that happened for 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: your your life where you're like, I'm going to go 216 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: to make a career and be an actor, actress and 217 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: come to LA and then. 218 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah I end up. I mean, so much happened. I 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: remember being eight years old, I'd watched the show religiously 220 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: and there was an episode about like funk music or 221 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: like I think Kurt says to someone Chris says to 222 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: someone like or no, maybe it's maybe it was. Heather 223 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: says this, like before you me, you have to funk 224 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: me or something. Is that a lie? 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: Just sounds. 226 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: But I remember going to school that day in third 227 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: grade and going up to my friend Zelle and being like, 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: did you see the Glee episodes last night? Because we 229 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: were like two of the only people our age that 230 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: were allowed to watch Glee. And my family is like 231 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: a cinema family, so they're like, honey, if it's a 232 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: good program, you're gonna you don't judge, so we'd watch 233 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: it religiously. Really, my sister was, you know, did musical theater. 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: My sister was did the Broadway tour of Whistle Down 235 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: the Wind when she was eight years old, and that's 236 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: when I became an actor. 237 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: So like he started young, yes, like Chicago. 238 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: Was playing in my grandmother's car as a kid, like 239 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: it was always a part of me. I started doing 240 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: musical theater when I was five years old. My dad, 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: who is a straight man, I repeat, a straight man, 242 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: a Palestinian straight man, would often sing good Morning Baltimore 243 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: just like in public. 244 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: Incredible and actually fun fact. 245 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: I was reminded of this today because I knew I 246 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 4: had a pod, but I was reminded when I woke 247 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: up this morning because my dad said, hi, baby, try 248 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: try not to trash anyone today And I said what 249 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: and he goes to lee pod. 250 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: I love your dad, I know. 251 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: See, So that's really good. 252 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a gift. Also to have a 253 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: down that would sing that and there was no love that, 254 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: there was no other choice, like you were going to 255 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: be going. 256 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: To know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did you. 257 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: Now did you consider yourself like, well, I'm curious to hear, 258 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: like when you decided you were gonna then pursue acting yourself. 259 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: And did you feel like you were a writer before 260 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: or after that? Like when did you discover that talent 261 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: as well? 262 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: Because like it sounds like you're kind of on that 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: same thing where Chris was like both a writer and 264 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 3: an actor and then became this like wildly successful writer. 265 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just curious to hear, but like. 266 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: That to ask, And it's funny now I see Chris 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: often because he's really good friends with my best friend 268 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: Dylan Welvan. You came on the podcast and immediately afterwards 269 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: called and was like, you have to go on and 270 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: she loves you guys and their neighbors. So I get 271 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: to see him a lot, which is so fun. 272 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: I love it. 273 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: But I mean, I knew I wanted to act my 274 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: whole life. I me and my brother would like re 275 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: enact sort of like play fighting, and I would make 276 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: him like we'd fight each other in kitchen or i'd 277 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: often like perform a medley and i'd make him hold 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: a flashlight at the top of the staircase. Like my 279 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: brother with autism, who's like the coolest person that I know, 280 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: like was being tortured by me, and I would hold 281 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: that's what the siblings do, exactly, hold the flashlight up 282 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: for me, and I would yell at him if the 283 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: spotlight wasn't right. So it's always known that I wanted 284 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: to act. But I think when I was like nine 285 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: or ten, maybe I was like, Yeah, ten is when 286 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: I discovered like a writing service called cel text, which 287 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: is like a free final draft, and I was at 288 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: camp with my friends, and I don't know, I think 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: that's when I started writing. I remember like going to 290 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: my first table read and it was like a movie 291 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: camp table read and like seeing Samantha not Samantha actually, yes, Samantha. 292 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: She goes by Santha. 293 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: Now. 294 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: She also had a name change. Her name was Sammy 295 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: han Raddy. She's actually on Yellowjackets right now. Oh yeah, 296 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: oh yeah, she's amazing. She was my camp counselor, and 297 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: like she was, she was writer, a writer, she would write, 298 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: so I remember she seeing her do that, maybe want 299 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: to do that? And then I've just been writing ever since. 300 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 301 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: I wrote like my first back, which was terrible, when 302 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: I was like fourteen, and it was about like it 303 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: was like for Jennifer Coolidge to star in like before 304 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: Jennifer Coolidge, before anyone cared, you know, I mean all 305 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: the cool people always cared before the normis cared. 306 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it wasn't until I was I think I. 307 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: Was fourteen or no, maybe I was twelve when I 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: did that. And then when I was fourteen, I did 309 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: Chris Kelly's movie, Chris Kelly, who was like the head 310 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: writer of SNL with Sarah for many years. I did 311 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: like two scenes of his movie, and I remember on 312 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: lunch break, I pitched an idea to Adam Scott icon 313 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: Adam Scott, yes, incredible actor and writer, and he was like, 314 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: let's do it, Like that's a great show and it 315 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: was basically a show about me and my aunt who 316 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: I had this like fraud relationship with Wow, and we 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: sold it to NBC. And I remember leaving the room 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: when I was like I was fourteen or fifteen, and 319 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: I told my mom. I was like, this is what 320 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: I want to do for the rest of my life. 321 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: So it's been almost ten years of also writing, which 322 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: is really cool. 323 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Is there one that you prefer? 324 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: I think that like I I don't know. I think 325 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: like acting is like always first for me, and like 326 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: writing feels like a hobby that hasn't yet been taken 327 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: over care because it hasn't been a financial dependency for me. 328 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: It's always been like if I'm righting off of it, which, 329 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: as you guys know, is really rare. Is like this 330 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: is this is additional, right. 331 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: People don't realize the amount of time and effort it 332 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: takes to get something made. Yes, Like there are thousands 333 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 2: of scripts out there every day being pitched and written 334 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: and thought about, and then things get bought and then 335 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: never seen and never made. 336 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: That's all I've done, which is just like sell scripts 337 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: and stuff. 338 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: So which is so something like that's absolutely like you've 339 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: been lunaging, like the ability and the skill to go 340 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: into a room like when you were a young teen 341 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: full of adults, like the scary suits, Like the people 342 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: who make those decisions are often terrifying, they are, And 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: like if you can do that at fifteen, then I 344 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: imagine now going into that room, you're like, all right, yeah, 345 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: let's do this again. Sure, yeah, problem because that's such 346 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: a huge Like that's such a huge skill to have 347 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: that people coming in now at your age for the 348 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: first time doing it, like you've know, had a decade 349 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: of experience doing that. 350 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: Thank you. Uh yeah, I mean I think it's like, yeah, 351 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: that's very safe, you're saying. It's just been cool that 352 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: I've I think also like if I had been born, 353 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: you know, a girl. Obviously I was born a girl, 354 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: but had I been assigned that at birth, and had 355 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: I not been grew up as like a little boy, 356 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd have the same like you know, 357 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: demand to take up space and maybe jenny to relate 358 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 4: to that where it's like, even since transitioning, I've had 359 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: to teach myself like no, you used to like walk 360 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: into rooms and just assume that, like you know, you 361 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: own the place and now that like you're being you're 362 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: perceived as a woman, and I've always felt like girl, 363 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: but now that I'm treated like that, it's like I 364 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: feel less like I have the right to do that interesting. 365 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: So I think it's like re reminding myself that, like, 366 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: not that I'm a boy, but anyways, you have the 367 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: right to do, you know. And I tell my girlfriends 368 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: that you know, who aren't trans it's like every you know, 369 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: for every time we as women like hesitate to do something, 370 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: a white man has walked in with a baseball cap 371 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: and talked with his hands and sold a movie that 372 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: like he doesn't even know what it's. 373 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: About, yes, and it's like over and over, it's such 374 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: a thing. 375 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 4: So it's also something like I'm inspired by myself as 376 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 4: a kid, and I try to myself that now as 377 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: an adult woman, what. 378 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: An interesting person. 379 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a special perspective to happen because you've been 380 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: when you were you know, perceived as a boy for 381 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: that long and being able to, I guess, like live 382 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: that life to the extent that you could and like 383 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: being able to carry that with you now is just 384 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: such a unique perspective. And yeah, a very good reminder 385 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: to like also that freedom of being younger, Yeah, and 386 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: like sort of naive to the world and trying going yeah, yes, exactly. 387 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: Do you relate to that, Jenna, do you feel like 388 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: it's been hard for you to I mean, especially as 389 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: a woman of color, Like I'm sure that's a whole 390 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: other level to it. 391 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely that resonates, I think in all the industries 392 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: that I've worked in now or like I mean mainly 393 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: the entertainment industry, but across all facets, like as an 394 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: actress and as a producer, and I'm kind of like 395 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: shifting out of that now. Like I feel I constantly, 396 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: even to this day, at thirty nine years old, have 397 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: to remind myself. 398 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Not that that's old, but you look like it is old. 399 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: It's okay, but thank you, I feel. 400 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not like once you're six, so you 401 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 4: can call yourself old. Okay, you look hot and thank 402 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: you look twenty something white. 403 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I wish. 404 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: Age over here. 405 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: You look hot too, Yeah, you do know. 406 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: I just have all the filter settings up on high. 407 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: Everyone looks really hot. 408 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: Everybody looks really hot. They're so hot right now. 409 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: I'm actually like sweating. So I'm going to take all 410 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: my clothes in a second, but. 411 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: Different a different podcast. 412 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: Now, I feel like I constantly have to remind myself, 413 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: like I've been pitching something recently and it's like I'm 414 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: like a million white men have done this without apologizing 415 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: before me, and I have to just stop apologizing for 416 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: it and just go. And even in Glee, like it was, 417 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: there was such a feeling that like, obviously we know 418 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: there's like justice for Tina as we've done this podcast 419 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: for my character, but you can't help but feel like 420 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: either being Asian, or being a woman, or being something 421 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: that having to do with the unworthy that like was 422 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: embedded inside of feeling like I wasn't good enough. That's 423 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: why I wasn't Tina wasn't as loved or you know. 424 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: All of that. 425 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: It's felt like this, you know, but it's like a 426 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: cosmic reminder now that like I am and I learned 427 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: so much from being in that position and feeling that 428 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: way and like taking the power back. So ye, but yeah, 429 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: that definitely resonates for me. 430 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: That's beautiful that you've that you've done that though, because 431 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: like I'm sure through this pod and just like with 432 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: social media, you've learned like how revolutionary your character was. Yeah, 433 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: just so many like you color and like young Asian girls. 434 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, someone like you singing and dancing and 435 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: like yeah, to like experience the breath of like young womanhood, teenhood, 436 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: Like that's revolutionary. 437 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: No, thank you, I appreciate that. I mean, like, was 438 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: showing my daughter last night some videos because she's now 439 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: gotten to the point where like I can show her 440 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: Tina music videos music. So I showed her so she 441 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: loves she loved True Colors because trolls played True Colors. 442 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: So we know this, we know this. 443 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, mommy saying the troll song. But now 444 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: it's actually I did hung up for her, which was 445 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: I was like, she's gotta we got to get in there. 446 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: Because I know, I know, And then we did. At 447 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: one point though she said who's that. She's like, that's mommy, mommy. 448 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: And then we did ABC last night and we did 449 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: who was the other one that I showed her? Oh 450 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: we did. I don't know how to love him because 451 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: she tends to like ballads, so she. 452 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: Like said, she is like ballads obsessed. 453 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: She tends to like ballads. 454 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: But you know, it is so important to me that 455 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: for her, there's representation out there, and obviously like we've 456 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: come a moderate way to more representation on you know, 457 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: of of women and Asians on on screen, but like 458 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: even that, to be able to show her somebody not 459 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: that's not me, but somebody that represents her in a 460 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: way is so meaningful totally. 461 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: So that's so special. 462 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: That's so that's about me, more about you. We need 463 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: to know more about the your Glee experience. So I 464 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: have to know what the process was like, like when. 465 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Did you get the call? Did you audition where you offered? 466 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: Like what was the. 467 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: Straight off, straight. 468 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: Offer for Glee. 469 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: I don't know that we've had anybody except for Justin 470 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: Timberlake for that. 471 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: I know. 472 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: Literally, I guess, yes, we'll be sent in a tape. 473 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I mean I remember I was 474 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: in the car at Panda Express. Yes sir, yes, we're all. 475 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: Great things occur and I got the audition and it 476 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: was like the most exciting thing that ever happened to me. 477 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: And the thing that my mom taught me at a 478 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: young age was like we celebrate the audition, you know, 479 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: don't celebrate the audition then, like you're never going to 480 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: be happy wow. 481 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: Wow, we did that, and we went your parents sound. 482 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: One perspective I told I told my mom was like 483 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: beyond standby in case I need to add you for 484 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: like clarity at some point. But and then we were like, 485 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: you know what song am I going to sing? Of 486 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: course all that jazz from Chicago and my number first 487 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 4: day with my mother, and I remember going to the 488 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: audition seeing every boy in Hollywood, like every shape, size creed. 489 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: It was like the most room I'd ever seen in 490 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: my life, and I think I literally prayed to God 491 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: to like give me the courage to do it, and 492 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: I just think I remember doing it, remember being in 493 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: that room, and I remember like after I performed the song, 494 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: like standing and like imagining that like everyone was applauding 495 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: around me, because I remember it at the end of 496 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: every single music performance, like there's always that moment where 497 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: someone's like I'm looking around, like heavy breathing, like you 498 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 4: just like you didn't just lip saying that, and like 499 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 4: someone didn't just scream at you every dance move to 500 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: do so like you're not even thinking you're just a robot, 501 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: but like it's as if you put your whole soul 502 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: into it. And I remember doing that and being like 503 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: no one else did that, you know, And I felt 504 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: like in that moment, I was like I'm in the show, 505 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: you know, not that I got the part, but like 506 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 4: in that moment, I felt like I had to put 507 00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: yourself in that world. 508 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is what you have to what you should 509 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: do every time. 510 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a great wow wow wow, And so. 511 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: I remember, so I did that and then I don't 512 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: even think there was a callback. I don't And I 513 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: remember Ryan Murphy was like going through the tapes, which 514 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't think he did regularly. Is my understanding that 515 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: it was like the last season and like we were 516 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: kind of the newcomers and so they wanted to approval 517 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 4: and yeah, I think it was like literally December fourteenth. 518 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: I remember the day. I also have an insane memory, 519 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: and people get really scared who are friends with me, 520 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: because like I remember literally everything. 521 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 522 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: That we got the call about it and it was 523 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: like the best news in the world, And it was 524 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 4: like one of two Hollywood moments that I can remember 525 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: where I would like where I went to the studio 526 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: lot and like saw the set and then saw myself 527 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: as a kid. You know, I've only had that moment 528 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: once before, which is my very first show I was on, 529 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: which is a Dizzy Channel show that I had also 530 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 4: watched the premiere of on my childhood couch with my family. 531 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: Wow wow, And I just remember having a moment and 532 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: it being like insane, and my mom and I just 533 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: looking at each other and just being like, this is Hollywood. 534 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah that too, Yes, definitely, yeah, a lot of history, 535 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: it didn't. 536 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: And then I remember running into this guy from my 537 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 4: middle school. He was like kind of mean to me, 538 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: and he was like he was like, Oh, what are 539 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: you doing here? And I was like, oh, I'm on Glee, 540 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: Like what are you doing? Yes? Yes, he was like 541 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: I have an audition and I was like, well, good luck. 542 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: And I was like, so, are you just like doing 543 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: an episode or something? And then the PA who was 544 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: with us was like you know, well, she said he'll 545 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: but you know, he'll be here for the rest of 546 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: the season. And it was almost like the PA I knew, 547 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: like this like an opposition person, this was an enemy, 548 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 4: and but that was the first time that I learned 549 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: that I was going to be on the rest of 550 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: the season. I just thought it was in an episode, 551 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: like am I. 552 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you thought you were going to do 553 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: the show for one episode. Did you know when you 554 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: came into audition your auditioning for Myron and like that 555 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: was the storyline or do you remember if it was 556 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: like you read somebody else, because oftentimes people would read 557 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: for roles, would read like thin sides or something that 558 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: anything to do with the role, but it's such a 559 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: specific thing. 560 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, the first of many like Jewish 561 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: characters I played, But it was an honor to have 562 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: a barment stode. I'd wanted to my whole life. I 563 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: grew up going to Barmins fast As were the Cooperman's, 564 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: our extra Neighborman's, our extra Sebers. So by the way, 565 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: our next neighbors were the Cooperman's and they had multiple children, 566 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: so we saw all of their abommanzas and I was like, 567 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: when is mine gonna happen? 568 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: Right? 569 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: And I actually asked my parents to throw me a 570 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: barnmu stow when I was like twelve, and they were like, 571 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: we're Catholic, that's not like we don't have an excuse 572 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 4: to like spend this money on you, Like we can 573 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 4: have a party from in the backyard. So then when 574 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 4: I had that moment. 575 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: It was like, this isn't you And I paid for 576 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: it and I got paid to have it, So you 577 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: got casts. A lot of the other people we've talked 578 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: to of like the New Kids had to audition on 579 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: the auditorium stage in front of everybody, which seems, yeah, terrifying. 580 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: Billy and. 581 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Noah, they all like literally to perform on the auditorium stage. 582 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: Is that? 583 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, off, all that is terrifying. 584 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: It's terrible. 585 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: Because I was with Phineas, we were in the same 586 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: plot right and. 587 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: You guys came on the same episode, right on. 588 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: The same episode. I remember thinking, like, who is this 589 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: seventeen year old homeschooler? Like I was like because he 590 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I me my sister are homeschooled by 591 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: my parents. And I was like, that's so weird that, 592 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: like they're not in traditional school. Little did I know 593 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: they'd be like the biggest pop stars in the world. Yeah, literally, 594 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: Oscar Award winning people. But it was just so funny. 595 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: He was the sweetest. But I remember immediately connecting with 596 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: Samantha Marine and sam and like we just immediately off 597 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: the bat, like she like took me in and because 598 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: originally I think my character was supposed to be friends 599 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: with Becca's character or like we had a kinship, which 600 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: we did in real life, like I loved her as well, 601 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: but something about Samantha and I just like, I don't know, 602 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: we just clicked. Yeah, And so then in every group 603 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: scene it was like, you know, they put us together 604 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: and you can see the evolution of the episodes, like 605 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: we're just always next to each other, and she was 606 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 4: just always my person who like was my safety net, 607 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 4: which is really nice to have. Because it was really overwhelming. 608 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question. Coming into a 609 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: set like that, especially at your age, which I mean 610 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: it was not your first time being on set full 611 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: of adult crew member. Yeah, but you're on a show 612 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: that you watched since you were eight, and like there's 613 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: all of these people. You know that lots of people 614 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: are going to see it. Like what was that feeling 615 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: like for you when you actually started working? 616 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: It was amazing but overwhelming, and I learned very quickly. 617 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: I remember someone you know, they would often say like, 618 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: if you can do Glee, you can do anything. That 619 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: was the frit I'm sure you guys have heard that. Yeah, 620 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: and it felt like that maybe was like this sentence 621 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: if they say to excuse themselves from like putting you 622 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 4: through such strenuous yes, yes activities, which was like and 623 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 4: I remember breaking down. I broke down a few times, 624 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: especially after because like I'm sure you guys have talked 625 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: about it, but like, you know, you're in a van 626 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: and you're on set and then they drive you to 627 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 4: Capitol Records and then you're recording, you know, for hours. 628 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: And I'd never made music before. I'd never sung publicly 629 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: other than once where I famously replaced a boy who 630 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: got the swine flu who was supposed to perform at 631 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: the Harvey Weinstein Oscar party in twenty fourteen. Aside from that, 632 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: I hadn't performed before in a professional setting. Wow. Now, 633 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: I had met Oprah that night and like Taylor Swift 634 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: and Lana del Rey and I was like eleven years old. 635 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it was, oh my god, insane. But so 636 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: that was my only experience sort of like professionally singing. 637 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: And I remember leaving the recording you just feeling like 638 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: absolute because I'm like. 639 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Oh, we all felt that way. 640 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: That was universal feeling. 641 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, and I remember Laura saying who was on? 642 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: Had been on? Broadway before and pursing something similar one day, 643 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: and that made me feel a lot better because I'm like, 644 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 4: this is like, you know, one of the best singers 645 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: I've ever met, and so for her to, you know, 646 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: have that breakdown moment was like maybe I'm not so terrible. 647 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 4: But I remember being really, really difficult. And I couldn't 648 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: do any of the dance rehearsals longer than like forty 649 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: five minutes because I had to be in school and 650 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: I also worked that long. They'd film it and my 651 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: mom and I would do it at all. That's in 652 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 4: my living room. 653 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. 654 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: Because of the Sony Korean scandal of seth Rogen, if 655 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: you guys remember that, or if there was another reason, 656 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 4: but it seemed like everyone was very very suspicious to 657 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: something getting leaked. I would get my scripts. I don't 658 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: know if this is what you guys were like the 659 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: night before. Yeah, an episode would start and it was 660 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: hand delivered to us. Yeah, it was never emailed, and 661 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't know if I was in the next episode 662 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: until that script got that script crazy, So it was 663 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 4: like a PA may come and knock on your door, 664 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 4: and I just remember like waiting by the door idle. 665 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: You know that's crazy, and or like I was like 666 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: at the movie theaters and like you know, it's you 667 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: find out. It was like so chaotic and so stressful, 668 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 4: and then when you'd get that knock on the door 669 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: like that young Pa, it was like, I don't know, 670 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 4: covered in mildew from like their eight hour you know 671 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: tour around the city. I would give you the script 672 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: and then you'd like flip to it. Even some days 673 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: where like I got a call sheet from a napkin, 674 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 4: like written on a napkin. 675 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one. 676 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a call sheet written on a napkin 677 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: saying what time everyone was doing? What? It was? 678 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: Chaos? Oh sad, fallen off? 679 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not at that point. But also we 680 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: ran out of paper. We don't have the budget out of. 681 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 4: Paper, you know when I was there, they ran out 682 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: of paper and all resources. But no, I seeing that, 683 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: Oh Jesus was crazy too, you. 684 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: Know, like and that was like your first episode in 685 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 3: you were doing like all of all numbers with all 686 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: of them. 687 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: And like Darren Chris, who's like Angel on Earth. Yes, 688 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 4: you know we have this weird connection because my uncle 689 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: was his teacher in high school. 690 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. 691 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: Darren was connected to everyone. 692 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: He's I famously have like a million cousins, so like 693 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm related to everyone. 694 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: Great. So with your powers combined, you two know every 695 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: single person. 696 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, we're the center of the universe. But like 697 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 4: he was so amazing. And then, like I remember Leah Liah, 698 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 4: Michelle was like the first person to meet me like 699 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 4: an adult, you know, but I just there's no part 700 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 4: of her that was like making any sort of adjustments 701 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 4: for the fact that I was a kid. And I 702 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 4: remember really liking that, you know, because I'm sure like 703 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 4: you guys know, being adults and set like the language 704 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: and like the vernacular. Yeah, it's like, you know, people 705 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 4: just talk like adults and I was like a little kid. 706 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: And I remember she never censored herself around me and 707 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: even towards me, And I think, like, you know, as 708 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: a little trans girl, like that's very iconic that like age, 709 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: like you know, she was talking to me like that. 710 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: Like I remember at one point and I can I 711 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 4: can say this. I mean not that I can say this. 712 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 4: No one gave permission to say this, but I'm giving 713 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: myself permission to say this. But at one point she 714 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: called me over and she was like, Josie, what's your 715 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 4: favorite musical And I was like, I don't know. I 716 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: think i'd have to say Chicago, and she was like 717 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 4: that's always been my least favorite music. I wanting to die, 718 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 4: but I was I was like, that is fears. Like 719 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: she didn't mince words with me, like she doesn't like 720 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 4: that musical and but like I grew up on Chicago. Yeah, 721 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 4: that was like, I don't know, most honest, she's always 722 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: the most the most honest. For one other day, her 723 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: and Darren, she was like, just want to let you 724 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: know me and Darren are your real parents, and that 725 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: was really fulfilling for me. Wow wow I feel that 726 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: way too, Mom and dad. 727 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, wow, that's really good. 728 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: I just remember hearing like words that they're like there's 729 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: this new character on the show, and like at that 730 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: point I had really mentally and emotionally departed. 731 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: So I apologize that, like we didn't cross paths in 732 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: that way. 733 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: Oh so understandable, but. 734 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: I like heard such wonderful things about you and about 735 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 3: just like showing up and being like uh he or 736 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: you know, at the time, was like he's amazing, Like 737 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: he just performed and did it and like again, to 738 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 3: be honest, like I hadn't. 739 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: We were watching this sixth season for the first time 740 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: that we really haven't. 741 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 742 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: So it was really fun to watch and really exciting, 743 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 3: and we love the new like you guys, the newbies 744 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: are just so exciting and. 745 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 4: Quirky and different and really. 746 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: But you're also so because you're all such great new 747 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: characters that we have not seen at all, and you're 748 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: also like special individually, like what you are bringing to 749 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: the show, which is like what the show at its 750 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: core is obviously about, and it's like this is the 751 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: new crop of like yeah, very. 752 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: What was it like working with Jane Lynch? Like did 753 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: you know that? Must have been and liked you asked me. 754 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 4: That because to this day, I mean, she is one 755 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 4: of the nicest And when I say one of the 756 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: I mean like top three, yes, nicest people. I mean, 757 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: I guess number one that I've ever worked with. She 758 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 4: saw me at such a young age. Yes, talk about 759 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 4: treating you like an adult in like a comedy way too. Yeah, 760 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: And it's crazy because I think it's like her John 761 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 4: Michael Higgins, like, uh, maybe Jennifer Coolidge. Who else? I 762 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 4: mean There's been so many amazing people. But like when 763 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: I think about people that have like sort of chaperoned 764 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 4: me in that way Amy Poehler, like it's weirdly like 765 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: these like comedy people who all start the same circle 766 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: and then they were humbled at such a young age, 767 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 4: like that, why they're so kind that's a shade. Yeah, 768 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: you know, those are the people to me that like 769 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: were like they saw me, you know, because I've always 770 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 4: identified as like a can you know, I wasn't ever 771 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: calling myself an actor or an actress until like recently, 772 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 4: like maybe like four years ago. I saw interesting manager 773 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 4: and I was like, I want to be an actress 774 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: and she was like, bitch, are you on? Basalt's like 775 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: that's what do you'd like to hang up? And I 776 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 4: was like, no, I want to actually act. I don't 777 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 4: want to just like be funny. Yeah, but I remember 778 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 4: Jane seeing me, and I remember us just having that 779 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: like camaraderie. 780 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: It's so funny too. She guys are so funny. 781 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: She's so funny. She's the most you know, talented woman 782 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 4: on earth, and she's underrated beyond belief always and yeah, 783 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 4: just such a cool person. I'm so glad that you 784 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 4: asked you about. 785 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: Her, Well, I mean like to work with somebody like 786 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: that who's such an I like comedic icon, and then 787 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: like to have like Jennifer Blutch on the show too. 788 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: It felt like so I mean even during the pilot, 789 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: like she walked up in her tracksuit and that was 790 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 3: the first time we met her and knew she was 791 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: attached to the show at all, and we were like wow, literally, 792 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 3: like I looked up like the Empire State Building. 793 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: Was like wow you, Like I can't believe you're on 794 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: our show. 795 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: And we were terrified to work with her. And we 796 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 2: were in our. 797 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 4: Twenties seen her, You've seen. 798 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: Like best thing, I assume, yes, everything. 799 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: She's like so nice, but every time she'd walked on 800 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: walk on set, she'd have these like monster monologues, monster 801 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 3: lines that made zero sense, but she would like spit 802 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: them out with such grace and like never mess up, 803 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 3: and she'd make you laugh so hard that you're like, 804 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: don't break her take, because like. 805 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to make her have to do it again. 806 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're like trying not to laugh, but that's 807 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: so funny. 808 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: Best person in the whole world. But you guys have 809 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 3: really funny interactions too, like when you step on the mast, 810 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: it's just so so funny. 811 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: She really she was also one of those people that 812 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 4: like I felt really safe. 813 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: With Hitchcock too. I feel like really took you guys 814 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: best with him. 815 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually did a movie together after the fact, 816 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: my dad in a film that I did. Yeah, he 817 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 4: wrote my episode Michael Hitchcock. I remember that also from 818 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: the best in Show. 819 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 5: World people all the most amazing body feels so like 820 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 5: connected to his work and those people. Yes, yes, and yeah, 821 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 5: Michael Hitchcock is one of the best super on Earth, 822 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 5: one of the most talented humans on Earth. 823 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 4: Weirdly, Also, I don't know if you guys ever met him. 824 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: He played super Gay Warbler and he's now he's been 825 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 4: my brother's best friend from college. But Mason Trueblood, he's 826 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 4: like one of the most music people and he was 827 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: also my friend too, Like he was like, and. 828 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: He's been great this season. They were like. 829 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: They were like, we're going to give him some lines now. Yes, 830 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: and he's straighter. He's like married now and lives in beach. 831 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 4: Like he's probably the most heterosexual person on earth, for 832 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 4: better for worse. But like, I just love that he 833 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 4: played that and now I get to see him. But yeah, 834 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: I probably definitely had a crush on him when I 835 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 4: was a kid because he's gorgeous. 836 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh same, I did too. I couldn't talk to him. 837 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: Do you have any favorite. 838 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 3: Numbers that you did on the show, like one that 839 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 3: you were completely terrified and like, yeah, I mean like my. 840 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 4: First numbers was like so good, insane, ridicul you know, 841 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: so I think that I mean that one I remember 842 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 4: the most vividly. There's a song that Darren Chris wrote 843 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 4: for the show. Yes what it's called, but it was 844 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 4: so good, and I remember that being like a really 845 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 4: beautiful experience because I got to see him. Somebody didn't 846 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 4: know that. 847 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: Well, but like live there this time, this time, that's right, Yes, yes. 848 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 4: I mean the Ariana Grande's song. This is the part. 849 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know when you were on the show 850 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: and like people would be texting us like, oh my god, 851 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: these numbers are amazing. This kid is amazing. I was like, yeah, 852 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like I know who this person 853 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: is obsessed. I was like I don't. How do you 854 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: people not know? Like obviously, like this person is thirteen 855 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: and is more talented than all of us. That's how 856 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 2: I felt when you got into the show. 857 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: Untrue. But I do remember going trending on Twitter for 858 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 4: the first time when the show. 859 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: First came out, which was something because people were not 860 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: watching our show as much. So that's that's how good 861 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 2: you were. 862 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 4: It was my Ron Muscat, It's trending, and I remember 863 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: then I was like I made it. Yeah, And then 864 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 4: I also got so ill after the show. I don't 865 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 4: want to Oh, oh my god, I don't know who 866 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: it's from. I want to say Leah just for fun, 867 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 4: but I don't know. I don't know. I not actually 868 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 4: don't want to. But like I think it just went around. 869 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think. 870 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think we all had the ill. And I 871 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 4: was like ill for seven months and I still have 872 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 4: it to this day. Like when I relapsed, I'm like 873 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 4: it was Glee. In any time I was sick or 874 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 4: like worried about something. My mom will text me to 875 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: is like, you know, remember he did you can do anything. 876 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: Oh my god, true. 877 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 4: Me that Kevin. 878 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: That's where you get all your illness from. 879 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 2: They did It did start during Glee. 880 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: Then maybe it was. 881 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: In the walls I got was sitting for a really 882 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 4: long time. 883 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: It is true in Moldy Wall I think that is 884 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 2: why I had back problems. Probably yeah, yeah, you played 885 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 2: Jewish characters. I played someone in a wheelchair. 886 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: We all, we all do your thing. I did much 887 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: worse than that. I also, I mean, I don't know 888 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 4: if my pulpo is on here, but I did. It's 889 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 4: not my fault. I had a black mom in my 890 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 4: very first serious regular role. Didn't have a dad, just 891 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 4: had a black mom. Her name is Leonora Critchlow and 892 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 4: the most incredible British actresses. 893 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 2: There was a time we used to like joke about this, 894 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 2: not in like, oh isn't this funny? We joke about 895 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 2: the absurdity of it, where like people would say like, oh, 896 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: I'm like TV black or though, because it's like when 897 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 2: you're racially ambiguous enough, yes. 898 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: And that's why I could play maybe anything in that 899 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 4: era of television, right right, because like I'm an Arab woman. 900 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 4: But some days they thought it was. 901 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 2: Not for Hollywood people who were not willing to do 902 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 2: any sort of work. They're like good enough, yeah. 903 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, But now looking back, you know, obviously that's crazy. 904 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: We learned, yeah exactly, And I please in't a time capsule. 905 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: We call it. 906 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 3: We call it the time capsule exactly. It sort of 907 00:47:49,480 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: lives and dies there. We ask everybody this, so I 908 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 3: just I'll just ask it to you. What is the 909 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: feeling that Glee leaves you with? Obviously we wish there 910 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 3: was more Myron in the show is such like a 911 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 3: short stint for you? 912 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that was my question. It's like, do 913 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: you did you wish there was like more time or 914 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: was bad enough? 915 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: No? I think it was perfect and you know it 916 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 4: was perfect the amount of time. 917 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: And I mean I think so. 918 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 4: With you know the line, being a part of something 919 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: special makes you special. Like I've said, you know when 920 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 4: I like I was in a sorority regrettably in college, 921 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 4: as you know, I think I told that to a 922 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 4: bunch of white women once, but like I you know, 923 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 4: we'll often say that. And also just like the idea 924 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: that like dreams come true, which is really like the 925 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 4: core of the show. 926 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: Yea. 927 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 4: And like the fact that I could be this you know, 928 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 4: closeted trans girl in the a small town that's like 929 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 4: called Cowtown, Davis, California, and from Davis. I'm from Davis, squirrel. 930 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:08,959 Speaker 2: Wow. 931 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 4: Yes, like I've been around. No, but you know, to 932 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 4: think that I could be from there and I could 933 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: you know, perform at my local theater and dream of 934 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 4: getting to be in the show. And the fact that 935 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 4: I got to be on it. In that way, it 936 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 4: proves to me that like anything is possible anyways. So no, 937 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 4: I'm running for president and do not that I can't wait. 938 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,959 Speaker 4: Dreams come true. 939 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, twelve years, you can come on. 940 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 4: Twelve years you can run, true, and I mean it 941 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 4: runs for a third term, then I think everything's off liments, 942 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 4: so then I might as well run. I probably the 943 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 4: best bet. 944 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I don't need to hear any 945 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 2: of your policy issues and I don't. 946 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 4: Have any, and I don't have any. 947 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 2: Great I'm in amazing, Jose. 948 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here. 949 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 3: I'll do your PR. Sorry, I know you have a 950 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: PR person. It's okay, right, well, amazing amazing tell us 951 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 3: about blacking Buccaneers. 952 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 2: So you have to remember when I said, you haven't 953 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: stopped working work, right. 954 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 4: So if you want to see me play a cist 955 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 4: gender queer woman struggling with her lesbian identity in the 956 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 4: Lady eighteen hundreds, you should watch the Apple series Buccaneers. 957 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: On Apple TV plus Exactly What I Want Okay and. 958 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 4: Two comes out this year. There's lesbian related sexual stuff. 959 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 4: There's like tears, I like, am repressed, but like it's not, 960 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 4: it's not traumatic. It's like good repression and it's great. 961 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 4: It's like a bingie show. 962 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: How's that experience? Working on that show I had. 963 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 4: Changed my life? It really did change my life because 964 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 4: I was living away from home for the first time. 965 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 4: We were filmed in Scotland. Wow, I've been living on 966 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 4: and on in the UK for three years now and 967 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 4: so not because of it. I have a whole community. 968 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of my. 969 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 4: Best friends are from that show. I talk to them 970 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 4: every single day. And getting to do like a drama 971 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 4: was so different. 972 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 2: Right, you wanted to be an actress? 973 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 4: You do? 974 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: Come true? 975 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 4: I did. 976 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 2: You were the most powerful manifestor I've ever seen. 977 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 4: I guess, So what should I say next? I'm like, 978 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 4: I know, please, I want for us? 979 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel like do you feel like the thing 980 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: is true? 981 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 3: When they said when you could do Glee, you can 982 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 3: do anything like like this is this has been an easy. 983 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: Easier I guess challenging a different ways, but like, yeah, 984 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: that different. 985 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 4: Has ever been a part as glean will ever be, 986 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 4: you know, and even with I could wake up at 987 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 4: any hour of any day and like be asked of 988 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 4: almost anything and be okay, not that I'm inviting, not 989 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 4: that I'm inviting that, but like, you know, on at 990 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 4: four am, because at six am you might have to 991 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 4: be performing, right, you know. So it's something that like 992 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 4: is a part of me now. And even on this 993 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 4: show is like, yeah, like work compared to what to do? 994 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 4: We were Traumatnam's kidding, no, no, I'm talking about it. 995 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 4: Like it was like I'm like John McCain from Vietnam. 996 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 4: It was a very like we had like Chipotle every day, 997 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 4: Like it was very comfortable. I like had like a 998 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 4: PA dedicated to taking care of me. I think his 999 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 4: name is Kevin Kevin, and he was phenomenal. I love 1000 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 4: him so much. He was like in the military, Like 1001 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 4: I had a very comfortable life. 1002 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,720 Speaker 1: I like, I got a bike. 1003 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 4: You can't complain. 1004 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. 1005 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: Well, You're amazing, And everybody go watch The Buccaneers Season two. 1006 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 1: It airs on Wednesdays on Apple TV. 1007 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 2: The first two episodes are out now go watch it. 1008 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 2: And when you're in London, can you please hit me up? 1009 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, thank you so much. 1010 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: You really really appreciate it. 1011 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 4: You. Oh, thank you. It was so good hanging out 1012 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 4: with you guys. You're too I know. 1013 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: I wish I had like spent more time on the 1014 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: show together. Although this is actually better. 1015 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 4: There's gonna be future stuff and also like now we 1016 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 4: like ye know each other. 1017 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: I'll make you jealous, Jenna, and hang out with Josie and. 1018 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, please send me pictures and when I come to 1019 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 4: La I'm calling you. 1020 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Josie. Josie's amazing. That was incredible. 1021 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 2: She's an adult. 1022 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: She as an adult. 1023 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 3: Which is funny because like I say, like I wish 1024 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 3: we had spent more time on the show, but actually, 1025 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 3: like I'm sure we would have connected, but. 1026 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: Like in a different way, you know what I mean. 1027 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: Like it's just a totally different thing. 1028 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 3: The whole thing is so fascinating to here because like 1029 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 3: we weren't there and Myron was like the doogie houser. 1030 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 2: On the show and the only kid to be on 1031 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: the show that ever it was. 1032 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: That is crazy. That is so crazy. 1033 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: It is a hard job for a full theater trained adult. 1034 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: I can just throw our thirteen year old into that. 1035 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: It is just absolutely bunkers by. 1036 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 2: Josie's super talented and modest, but she has talent coming 1037 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: out every limb, just every absolute best. 1038 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 3: Go watch Buccaneers Hunts on Apple TV and thank you 1039 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 3: Josie for your time and for coming on and sharing it, 1040 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 3: and that's what you really missed. 1041 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 1042 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. 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