1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Mister Garbatscheff teared down this wall. Either you're with us 2 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: or you were with the terrorists. If you've got healthcare already, 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: then you can keep your plan. If you are satisfied 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: with Trunk is not President of the United States, take 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: it to a bank. Together, we will make America great again. 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton 7 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: with America. Now, join the conversation called Buck toll free 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight two five the future of 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: talk radio. Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with you here now. Thank you so much 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: for joining and honor a privilege and a pleasure. I 13 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: think it'll get easier to say that those are tough 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: words to all string together sometimes, but I like it. 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: So we've got a lot a lot to discuss today. 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: It is a Friday, so it's gonna be kind of 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: a loose show in terms of bouncing around to different topics. 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: You obviously have at the top of the docket today. 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I think you got to put McCain helping to torpedo, 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: repeal and replace, and then you've got rocket Man Kim 21 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Jong un making some pretty crazy threats. I will I 22 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: will actually share with you the full text later on 23 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: in the show of what Kim Jong un had to 24 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: say in response to in response to Trump at the 25 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: u N an unusual step for well, I think it's 26 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: the first time actually, so calling it unusual residented step. 27 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Unprecedented is often abused as a term on the left right, 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: unprecedented Donald Trump uses executive orders. No, that's not unprecedented, actually, 29 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: But they figure it's a good headline. We'll get people 30 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: to click on it. Hashtag resistance, hashtag resistance. But there 31 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: is first before we get into before we get into 32 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: all of that. I spoke to you yesterday about this 33 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: on the show, and I wanted to return to it 34 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: for a moment that it seems a media pastime now 35 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: or it's becoming one where they're more concerned. They are 36 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: more unnerved by Donald Trump, the duly elected commander in 37 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: chief of this country, than they are by Kim Jong 38 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: un and a regime that is steeped in brutality, slavery, 39 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the worst of sadism, violence and oppression. They're they're more 40 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: worried about Donald Trump and if he says mean things 41 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to Kim Jong un, Donald Trump is the problem. I 42 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: am reminded of the way that we are told, for example, 43 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: don't use radical Islamic terrorism, because then some people might 44 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: become terrorists. Don't speak about jeehotism because then some some 45 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: people in the Muslim world will become jehotists. If it's 46 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: that easy for an individual to turn to terrorism, we've 47 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of thinking to do about that problem. 48 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: And if it's that easy for someone to turn to terrorism, 49 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: they're a problem. Before anything was said, and in the 50 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: case of Kim Jong un, Trump isn't really taking positions 51 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that are different from what has been the consensus on 52 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: North Korean the past. He's just making it more clear 53 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: and he seems more credible when he says things like 54 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: there will be consequences for one and we will get 55 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: into some of the some of the details of what 56 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: those sanctions are later on. We've got our friend Gordon 57 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Chang joining to help us analyze that, and I'll give 58 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: you my sense of what the possibility of a military 59 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: exchange in the future with North Korea is based on 60 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now. But I can help but 61 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: stop for a moment and revisit what I was telling 62 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: you yesterday, which is that there are people who are 63 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: obviously more concerned in our own media about the way 64 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: that Trump talks about North Korea than the threat of 65 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: a North Korean regime that is getting more powerful, longer range, 66 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: more accurate missiles all the time. They're not getting those missiles, 67 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think this is where you have a separation 68 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: between left and right on this national security issue. They're 69 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: not getting those missiles just so they can have parades 70 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: in the streets with them. They're not just building these 71 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: missiles because they look cool and scary and Kim Jong 72 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: own wants to feel like a tough guy. That's all 73 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: part of it, sure, But they're working on these so 74 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: that they can actually use them if they choose to 75 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: at some point in the future. We don't know how soon, 76 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: we don't know when or if that will happen. But 77 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: they're building them so that they are usable. And that's 78 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: an important distinction from I think the oh, it's just 79 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: saber rattling. He's just trying he's just trying to get 80 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: concessions out of us with this provocations. And you know 81 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: this language we use, saber rattling, provocation, escalation, miscalculation. These 82 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: are all useful to a point, but when it just 83 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: becomes a repetition because we are stuck in a consensus 84 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: opinion on this, which is I think where the foreign 85 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: policy establishment has been for a long time, then they 86 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: cease to be useful. It's just it is a mindless 87 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: cycle of well, they did this, so we'll do that. 88 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: They did this, so we'll do that. All along they 89 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: are they are becoming a more dangerous foe to our 90 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: allies in the region, Japan, South Korea, and others. With 91 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: all that going on, though, individuals in this country who 92 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: yes have the right to free speech, can say whatever 93 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: they want about the president about his North Korea policies. 94 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: But I would think as an American you would feel 95 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: and urge right now to be particularly responsible in how 96 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: you analyze the current standoff with North Korea. And it 97 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the usual petty page six gossip columnist, you know, 98 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: eighth grade girls, gossipy nonsense about the president. That you 99 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't have people that are deciding that it's more important 100 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: to take cheap shots at the administration than to deal 101 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: with the prospect of a nuclear shot from Kim Jong un. 102 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: But if you were to think that you might be wrong. 103 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Here's here's the Morning Joe Show. Okay, okay, Donald, you 104 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: know what you got a child? You're a seven year 105 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: old man. Stop, you are not child. I I think 106 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: that they could. They're paid millions of dollars. They have 107 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: this perch, this platform where it's it's never clear to 108 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: me that either Miko or Joe is particularly attached to 109 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the substance of the conversation. It's always how they look, 110 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: in many cases literally while discussing it, but demeaning the president. 111 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: At a moment like this, I think that you can 112 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: see the degree of Trump derangement syndrome when you have 113 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: such a serious issue as North Korea, UM, and yet 114 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: the media focus is on Trump and his two Trump's 115 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: tweets are not going to start a war. They can 116 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: just drop that Trump's tweets are not going to start 117 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: a war. Trump's not going to do something crazy because 118 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: of Twitter. That that's just not reality. But Kim Jong un, 119 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: we should take the threat from his regime very seriously. 120 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: In fact, here is a defector from North Korea who 121 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: wants the American people to know just that he's very dangerous, 122 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: very dangerous. Yes, why very dangerous. He is smarter and 123 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: stronger than you think. He wants to live longer. Yeah, 124 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: he ail the power and all the authority. He is 125 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: very dangerous. There isn't There can be no question about that. 126 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 1: And he has consolidated power in a way that surprises 127 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks who pay close attention 128 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: drom his tqreer from the beginning. We're gonna be returning 129 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: North Krew the next hour. But I just I had to, 130 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: just for a moment, get into how it is mind 131 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: boggling to me that there's a seemingly a moral equivalency 132 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: from some of these Hollywood and media types who are 133 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: acting like Kim and Trump. There there's an equivalency between 134 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the two of them. You know, they're both crazy. No no, no, 135 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: that's that's irresponsible. But we'll get into some of that. 136 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: I also have the I might spend some time on 137 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: the Howard University speech that former FBI director James Coombe 138 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: tried to give, and I have in mind the free 139 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: speech week at Berkeley that may or may not happen, 140 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: and much much more. At the end of the show, 141 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: will have a team Buck speaks or at least at 142 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: some point during the show will have Team Buck speaks, 143 00:09:54,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: and because it is Friday, we have action movie quote Friday, 144 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: we can kill it movies, lust and get together. Have 145 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: a few less quote free Fridays, a quote Fridays. I 146 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: got so excited about North Korea on the media's depiction 147 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: of Trump versus Kim that I didn't lead off today 148 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: with what I really intended to, which is that it 149 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: looks like repeal. What is this partois the third term? 150 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: The letoisim? The third effort to repeal and replace Obamacare 151 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: has been, as I mentioned, has been hit by John 152 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: McCain and a few other Republicans in the Senate. It's 153 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: not over yet, but I think that we're allowed to 154 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: express some of our frustration. I want to get into this. 155 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: I want to discuss with you why we should be 156 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: at least allowed some degree of Catharsis in complaining here. 157 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: It's just unbelief how the Republicans can't get it together. 158 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress. You know I've said it before. I'll 159 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: say it again. What would you say you do here? 160 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I would like to know they show up, they have 161 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: this bill we're debating. This is one of the reasons 162 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: why I didn't spend that much time on healthcare earlier 163 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: in the week talk to you about it, got into 164 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: some of the specifics. I'm like, this is we're talking 165 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: about a phantom bill. We're talking about a make believe 166 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: law here. It's not it's not what it seems, and 167 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: it does not seem like it will be. I'm signing 168 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: almost philosophical. All right, eight four four nine two eight 169 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: two five eight four four nine hundred buck. We are 170 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: going to go into a break here. Please do call 171 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: action movie quotes. Welcome anything else you've got in mind 172 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: for the show, and we are going to have some fun. 173 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: I am planning on a little little close to the 174 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: Siege of Malta at some point during the show, probably 175 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: being the third hour, So get ready for that, and 176 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: we will have much more stay with it. Going to 177 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: the state. If you're a Bernie believer, this is your 178 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: worst nightmare because I take the money in power out 179 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: of Washington and I let states decide this. But you 180 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: do have to guaranteed issue in pre existing conditions coverage 181 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 1: is a mandate under the bill. But the real objection 182 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: here about the left is that we take money in 183 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: power out of Washington. Okay, the left is afraid of 184 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: power going out of Washington going to the States. Yeah, 185 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: that's true. But the right can't see him to get 186 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: anything done. Here we are once again looking at the 187 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: possibility of a slightly better healthcare planet. It's not even 188 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: like this would be great. It's not even fair to 189 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: say that this repeal and repeal in the place, this alteration. 190 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: You know this, uh take taking it, taking up the 191 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: pant cuffs a few inches and taking in the I 192 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: don't know, a little tighter around the waist, I don't know, 193 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: tailoring terms. That's what it is for a olcare. This 194 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: is not a this is not a new set of clothes. 195 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: It's not a new suit. This is just making alterations 196 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: to the existing one. And so here we are looking 197 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: at the Republicans assuming or hoping forget assuming, hoping that 198 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to pull something off. And 199 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: yet no, because here we have Senator McCain once again 200 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: deciding that he will be the decider. He will be 201 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: the Justice Anthony Kennedy, if you will, back in the 202 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: day on the Supreme Court, the one or the you know, 203 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Sander Day O'Connor. He's going to be the swing vote 204 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: for the Democrats. Of course, you'll notice that when it 205 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: came to passing Obamacare, were there any were there swing 206 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: voters in the Democrat side, were They're like, you know what, 207 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to defect from this whole Obamacare thing. Say 208 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: what you will about Nancy Pelosi, say what you will 209 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: about Chuck Schumer. They seem to be able to get 210 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: it done on our side. No such luck on our side. 211 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Congress is buffoonish, thus far completely incapable of delivering on 212 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: the promise of a better healthcare system for it. Like 213 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I said, repeal and replace isn't even really in the 214 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: discussion right now. Here's what the New York Times quotes 215 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: John McCain as saying, we should not be content to 216 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: pass healthcare legislation on a party line basis, as Democrats 217 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: did when they rammed Obamacare through Congress in two thousand 218 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: and nine. Mister McCain said, if we do so, our 219 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: success could be as short lived as theirs when the 220 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: political winds shift, as they regularly do. A bill of 221 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: this magnitude requires a bipartisan approach. So let me just 222 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: get this straight, Senator McCain, The Democrats didn't have to 223 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: take a bipartisan approach at all, and they pass the 224 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: most sweeping reform of healthcare in decades. But when it 225 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: comes to Republicans finally being in power, now it's time 226 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: for bipartisanship. This is why Republicans lose. Democrats go all 227 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: the way and Republicans don't know which way. They just 228 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: can't can't understand that wielding power is also a part 229 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: of this game. It's not just achieving it. It's not 230 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: just having your fancy office on Capitol Hill and your 231 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: staff and getting go on TV, be a little pretend pundit, 232 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: sometimes do a little fundraising here and there. You are 233 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: supposed to do things for the American people, and sometimes 234 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: that means doing things in a partisan fashion. I would 235 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: love to see a little bit more of a sense 236 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: of fight in the Republicans here, a sense that they 237 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: are willing to do what is necessary. Instead, we're gonna 238 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: hear a lot of you know, a lot of double talk, 239 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of out of one side of the mouth 240 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: and the other side of the mouth. Sure we're gonna 241 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: get healthcare. Oh no, we're not gonna get healthcare, And 242 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we have to be bipartisan. Was Obama once 243 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: while he was present for eight years, did he ever 244 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: once make a truly bipartisan effort towards the other side? 245 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Did that ever really happen? Was there any real outreach? 246 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Was there an olive branch extended, Hey, we can work 247 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: together on this. No Obama would say they're terrible, they 248 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: don't like poor people, they're racist. I mean, this is 249 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here, obviously, and if they want to be 250 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: good people, they can do what I want them to do. 251 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: That was the way he approached Congress, especially when the 252 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Democrats were in the majority in the House and the Senate. 253 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: There was no there was no pretense of bipartisanship. And 254 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: it's it's like we're stuck in some kind of night 255 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: mayor here where we give Republicans the House, we give 256 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: them the Senate, they've got the presidency through reconciliation, they 257 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: can take action here. There's nothing. The only thing standing 258 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: in the way of Republicans making it possible, not even ensuring, 259 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: but possible for your healthcare to get better is other Republicans. 260 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: That is the truth of a situation right now. I 261 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about that, other than to 262 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: say that It is almost frustrating. Beyond words. It can't 263 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: be beyond words because I'm using those to describe it. 264 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: Yet here we are. We fall into this trap of 265 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: we're going to be the good guys. Republicans are going 266 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: to play a different game. We're gonna play the bipartisan game. 267 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: And Pelosi, Schumer, all the Democrats, they must be laughing 268 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: about this. And Pelosi was actually sending out emails of congratulations. 269 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: I saw this earlier. She couldn't be Yeah, she's sharing 270 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: the good news with everybody. Couldn't be happier about this. 271 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: And you get John McCain getting praise from Chuck Schumer. 272 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: When will John McCain figure out that if Chuck Schumer's 273 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: praising you on a matter of policy like this, that's 274 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: not a good thing. Here's you have Pelosi saying, we 275 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: will continue to highlight the devastating costs Republicans are trying 276 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: to inflict on hard working Americans at every opportunity. This 277 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: is from her press release. I encourage you to take 278 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: the discussion back to healthcare and our key messaging points 279 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: against the Republican bill higher costs, less coverage, key protection, gutted, 280 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: a crushing age tax, steals from medicaid. I mean, just 281 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: lies and lies and lies. But you'll notice we got 282 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: John McCain saying let's be bipartisan, and Nancy Pelosi is 283 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: sending out gloating emails about how let's keep the pressure on. 284 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: Republicans are a bunch of anti healthcare fascists who want 285 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: old people and poor people to die. But yeah, let's 286 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: be partisan, John McCain, that's a really smart approach. And 287 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: it's not just McKay. I know there's there's others in 288 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: the mix too. A few of the Republicans. I give 289 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Rand Paul some of you're gonna you're gonna hit me 290 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: on this one, but I give Rand Paul more of 291 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: a past because I think he actually does think that 292 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: this is a sham that they're not repealing and replacing, 293 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: and that's unacceptable. But all these other ones, they either 294 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: want the New York Times to write something nice about them, 295 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: or they want goodies from the federal government for their states, 296 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: and it's not what they promised. They are inconsistent, they 297 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: are unprincipled, and they are hurting our healthcare scows for 298 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: the guy you vote for information on healthcare, and if 299 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: these guys like in Red John Kennedy would tell the 300 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: truth for a change, I would in have to. You know, 301 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: I see these comments from these angry people, They say, 302 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: what qualified you to talk about this stuff? You're a comedian, 303 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: go back to being not funny. And I feel like 304 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: it's my duty to remind these people who are so 305 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: concerned about my qualifications. The guy you voted for president 306 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: his job qualification. He fired Meat low fontellivis I guarantee 307 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't know anything about this grand casity bill. He 308 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: doesn't know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. He barely 309 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: knows the difference between Milania and Avancas. There you have 310 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: comedian Jimmy Kimmel, who is at the forefront of Democrat 311 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: efforts to malign the healthcare healthcare bill that's not even 312 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: going to get passed. In the sentence, I mean, but 313 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: this is really just about circling, circling the wagon. It's 314 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: about putting up a wall around the legacy of the 315 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: Obama administration for the last eight years. And it is 316 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: a it is really a sacrament. Now Obamacare is treated 317 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: with a kind of sacred, holier than now, can't touch 318 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: it approach because it's all about the legacy of the 319 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: administration before and it's also showing us I think the 320 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: way that democrats or paving the way for Democrats in 321 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: the future of becoming increasingly more like democrats socialists. What's 322 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: really the difference between Bernie Sanders and a mainstream Democrat 323 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: where the where's the real difference lie on policy? I'm 324 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: talking about what they say. I'm not talking about ideologically, 325 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: because I think that's just shades of gray. The real 326 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: difference is Bernie Sanders is open about wanting to have 327 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: socialized medicine or single payer. He wants single payer. Truly 328 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: socialized medicine is even a little bit beyond what Bernie 329 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Sanders says he wants. But single payer, single payer is 330 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: now getting talked about a lot, and there are polls 331 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: out that show that the American people, in fact, a 332 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: majority of them. I saw this in the Hill today, 333 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: A majority of them like single payer. Now I can 334 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: actually understand, and that I can imagine asking people questions 335 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: about single payer and the response being yeah, that sounds good, 336 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: because the way that it's set up by the press, 337 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just the government's just gonna pay for it, which 338 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: is another way of saying, other people are going to 339 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: pay for your healthcare. You're never gonna have to worry 340 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: about costs again. You're never gonna have to worry about 341 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: visiting or waiting times and long lines and rationing, and 342 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: none of that's going to happen. You're just it's gonna 343 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: be all taken care of. That's what I believe a 344 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: lot of the folks who are saying they like single 345 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: payer think, now that's not true at all. I wonder 346 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: what the polling would show if instead of just asking 347 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: the question, what do you think of single pairer? Do 348 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: you like the idea of single payer? They instead said 349 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: would you be in favor of single payer if it 350 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: meant that you lost your current healthcare plan. Keep in 351 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: mind that Obamacare only really affected people that we're in 352 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: the individual market, at least affected them very directly. It 353 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: left most employer sponsored health insurance or a lot of 354 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: employer sponsored health insurance largely intact and alone. So it 355 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: was really a medicaid expansion and a takeover of the 356 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: individual market, using massive government subsidies and redistribution of wealth 357 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: in the exchanges to accomplish some minimal increase in the 358 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: quote insured population. Right, So if you have single payer, 359 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: health insurance companies are probably gone, or at least the 360 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: healthcare plans they offer up right now, they're gone. So 361 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and you have a healthcare 362 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: plan that you like, which before Obamacare was about ninety 363 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: percent of the American people, Okay, if you had a 364 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: healthcare plan that you basically like, it's gone that whole. 365 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: If you like your plan, you can keep it. That 366 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: wasn't true for people in the individual market. That was 367 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: a big Obama lie. But it also won't be true 368 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: for anybody because single payer means the government calls the shots, 369 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: the government pays the bills. You shut up and take 370 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: what they want to give you when it comes to 371 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: your healthcare. That's what single payer means. Means your plan 372 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: is gone. And oh, by the way, the cost of 373 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: it would be ruinous, absolutely ruinous to the economy. There's 374 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: no way around it. But sure, in fury, sounds great. 375 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: I also want ice cream that I can eat endless 376 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: amounts of that costs nothing, and that won't make me 377 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: gain any weight. But that's not reality, and single payer 378 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: that's gonna be awesome. That's not reality either, all Right, 379 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: We've got more on this the latest politics of the day, 380 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: and next hour more on North Korea. Stay with me, 381 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, Welcome back. It has been a busy 382 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: day for the world, a busy day for politics here 383 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: at home as well. And to shed some light on 384 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: recent events, we are joined by former Speaker of the 385 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: House and former presidential candidate Newt Gingrich. He is with 386 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: us now to talk about Defending America, which is an 387 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: exclusive online class hosted by new Gingrich. But first, Speaker 388 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: gang Rich, thank you so much for joining us. Well, 389 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: it's great to be with you, and I appreciate this 390 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: chance to talk about various things that are happening around 391 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: the world. I have to get your reaction to what 392 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: seems to be just another disappointing but perhaps predictable and 393 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: maybe even inevitable failure by the Republican Congress to do 394 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: something about Obamacare. What do you think about what's transpired 395 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: in the last few days. Well, I think there's been 396 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: a tremendous effort. I think that Lindsey Graham thought that 397 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: because he was so personally close to Senator McCain that 398 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: he could carry him, and turned out apparently he couldn't. 399 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I think that the you know, you have you have 400 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: about forty nine Republican senators who were fine, and you 401 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: have about three, maybe four, depending on the topic, who aren't. 402 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: But there were sixteen Democrats who voted no for every 403 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: Republican who voted no. One. I just say that to 404 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: remind people that the problem. You know, if we had 405 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: a couple more Republican senators, we'd be in great shape. 406 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: So we're getting forty nine out of fifty two or 407 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: forty eight out of fifty two pretty consistently, but we're 408 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: not able to break through. I had some hopes for this. 409 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: I thought there was some real energy, some real momentum, 410 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: and frankly, I can tell you from just talking to 411 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: them this afternoon, the White House has not given up. 412 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: They're going to continue to work this issue, and they 413 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: have real hopes they're going to get something that they'll 414 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: get something done. Despite all the frustration, it seemed that 415 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Senator McCain, who was among the handful that you mentioned 416 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: who we're not willing to go along with this latest 417 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: iteration of if not repeal and replace, fix and make 418 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: better whatever it is that people think it should be called. Yeah, 419 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: but if they're a good way to think of it. Yeah, 420 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: I mean I think that we're starting to modify our 421 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: own expect as here in the general public based on 422 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: what we're seeing. But McCain seemed to suggest that he 423 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: wants this to go through the normal process, not to 424 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: use reconciliation, which to me sounds like he thinks there's 425 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: a way to get Democrats on board with this. But 426 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: all we've seen from Democrats on Obamacare is intransigence. You're 427 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. You know what it means to 428 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: actually get the party moving together in one direction. Is 429 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: the way to get this done? Trying to bring Democrats 430 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: on board, well, I think it's impossible because you're asking 431 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: them to repudiate Barack Obama's biggest single achievement. But my 432 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: challenge to McCain would have been simple, you know, show 433 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: up and you come in the room and give bring 434 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: us eight Democrats and well and we'll think you're serious, 435 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: But don't pretend that you're being morally pure because you 436 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: want to do something which is impossible. I know of 437 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: no evidence right now that the Democrats are any Democrat 438 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: one is prepared to move. I could imagine some circumstances 439 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: where you get two or three there. I don't know 440 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: any circumstance where Schumer's control of the Senate's going to 441 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: break down enough that you're going to get the you need. Remember, 442 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: you need eight to pass it in regular order, and 443 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: McCain knows that. So I think at one level he's 444 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: just playing a game. We're speaking to Nuke Gingrich. She's 445 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: a former Speaker of the House and also former Republican 446 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Speaker Gingrich, tell me a bit about defending America. 447 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: This online class that you host, what does it do? 448 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: What can people learn? Where do they go? Give us 449 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: the whole rundown here? Well, folks who are listening can 450 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: go to Defending America course dot com. It's a very 451 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: serious effort in our part to lay out the key 452 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: arguments that we believe are necessary if we're going to 453 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: defend this country. I decided to do it because I 454 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: looked at Antifa, and I looked at left wing Paul 455 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: takes in college campuses and left wing activities in Hollywood 456 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: and in the news media, and I thought, you know, 457 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: if we don't get some people standing up and defending America, 458 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: explaining American values, walking people through the cost of socialism, 459 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: the cost of big government, the cost of tyranny. We're 460 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: in real dangerl of losing our country. So when I 461 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: describe defending America, I mean it quite literally. We need 462 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: people who are prepared to intellectually win the argument and 463 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: the purpose of defending America, which you can see at 464 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Defending America course dot com. The whole purpose is to 465 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: give each one of us the ideas, the facts, the 466 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: language to enable us to win the arguments with left 467 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: wingers so that we can actually stand up for America 468 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: on the issue of monuments and the actual, if not rewriting, 469 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: destroying of physical history. In a sense, I'm assuming that 470 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: this is something that you probably touch on in the class, 471 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: But even if that's just tangential to what you're dealing 472 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: with in Defending America, which is this exclusive online class, 473 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: everybody listening go to Defending America course dot com to 474 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: see it. What do you want people to know about 475 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: this fight over our history and what are some of 476 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: the key points? Less clear tearing down statues. Once you 477 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: start down this road and once you decide on your 478 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: version of purity. This isn't the sort of thing that 479 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union did. It's the sort of thing that 480 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: the Nazis did. It's the sort of thing that the 481 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: French Revolution did. And what happens of courses, it never stops. 482 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: In the case of the French Revolution, they ended up 483 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: with most of the original revolutionaries having their heads cut 484 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: off by the guillotine. In the case of the Soviet Revolution, 485 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: most of them end up in prisoners as Stalin took 486 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: power and took control. And I start there because I 487 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: think it is really important to understand that the facts 488 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: matter matter. But one of the reasons where we've decided 489 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: to teach Defending America as of course is we began 490 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: to run into these people who assert, you know, that 491 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: facts are really a Western European gimmick to seize control. Well, no, 492 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: facts are the basis of any kind of conversation about 493 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the real world. And I think it's just a tremendously 494 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: important that we engage in thinking through and talking about 495 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: the facts. And you can say, well, people, you know, 496 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: people had weaknesses. That's true, but it's been true of 497 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: all of human history. And there's an enormous difference between 498 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: the tutolitarian instinct which you see on college campus, as 499 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: you see with Antifa. You see sometimes when you hear 500 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: people talk about how you know, if I disagree with you, 501 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: We're going to make it illegal to think the way 502 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: you think. So if you if you're if you have 503 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: questions about climate change, that will to now be illegal. 504 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: If you have questions, you know, if you use the 505 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: wrong words, you can get kicked out of college. I mean, 506 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: there's a certain kind of thought control underways. It's I think, 507 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty frightening and pretty dangerous. Or speaking to Newt Gengrich, 508 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: she's a former Republican presidential candidate, fiftieth Speaker of the House, 509 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: and you can check out his exclusive online class on 510 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: on defending America. And where do they go speaker defending America. 511 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: They go to Defending America course dot com. All Right, 512 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: new Gengris, thank you so much, so great to have 513 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: you on to be with you. Thank you. Look, look, 514 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: this is it is an important time to think about 515 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: the defense of America because the arguments that are being 516 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: leveled against this country in so many different quarters, by 517 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: so many different groups and individuals and media outlets. They're 518 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: not new. There are overwhelmingly retreads of what has been 519 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: social justice sloganeering in the past. What has been pushed 520 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: by the the progressive left for many decades. What's different 521 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: now is that one they feel like Trump is a 522 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: moment where they can actually congeal, that they can all 523 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: come together in a leftist, progressive counter Trumpian revolution, if 524 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: you will, although I think you would argue more accurately 525 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: that Trump is himself, that Trump is the counter revolution 526 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: to progressivism and eight years of Obamaism. And I should 527 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: note that the speaker mentioned a Soviet Soviet era rewriting 528 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: of history. The way that they would shut you down 529 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union and the way that they would 530 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: mark you for imprisonment and elimination was to call you 531 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: a counter revolutionary. So it depends on the revolution we're 532 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: talking about, but in some context, being a counter revolutionary 533 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: is to be is to be a hero, is to 534 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: be heroic. And I think that pushing back against particularly 535 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: the cultural revolution that's occurring in this country right now 536 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and the history and the fights over history that play 537 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: such a large part in that there is a sense 538 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: of urgency now, and you have a media that on 539 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: the one hand feels like it's not quite as important 540 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: and powerful as it used to be, but also on 541 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: the other side of things, is trying to reassert itself. 542 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: Then there's a desperation. There's a sense of we weren't 543 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: able to prevent Trump from becoming president, so now whatever 544 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: we have to do to restore balance, so to speak, 545 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: And by balance they mean left wing dominance of the 546 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: conversation and left wing agitators determining social policy, that's what 547 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: they will do. That is that is in fact the plan. 548 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's an interesting class with new gingridge there, 549 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: and we will be getting into some detail here coming 550 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: up about North Korea. Big day in the international relations 551 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: foreign policy community, anyone who pays attention to what's happening 552 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: on the Korean peninsula would have to say that things 553 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: are in a state of particular uncertainty right now, that 554 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: there is a growing, i think recognition. I think there's 555 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: a growing recognition that the status quo will no longer hold, 556 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and that means that the previously considered steps on both sides, 557 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: what Kim Jong on and his North Korean hyper militant 558 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: regime intends to do, and what on the other side 559 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: we will do, either in response or in advance of 560 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: North Korean action, When that changes the possibility and it 561 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: is changing the possibility for miscalculation gets much higher. Should 562 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: also note that the Iran deal you take, you have 563 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: the two sides taking such different lessons from the current 564 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: state of play around the world right now. With on 565 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: the one hand, and you have the left and the 566 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: former Obama acolytes and senior policy folks that are now 567 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: they are now all in the media. Right This is 568 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: government and media are intertwined in a way now that 569 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: it's almost hard to tell the difference a lot of 570 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: the time. And that was true and under the Obama years, 571 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: and it's true now as well. There's a lot of 572 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: crossover between folks who have been an administrations are in 573 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: the media, we're in the media, are an administration. But 574 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: the story that Democrats are running with on all of 575 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: this is that they think that the Trump administration changing 576 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: course on North Korea means that they shouldn't also look 577 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: long and hard at the Iran deal. And I think 578 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: that's a complete misreading of what's really going on here. 579 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: I think that the administration sees North Korea as in 580 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: many ways a ideologically, the approach to it is linked 581 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: to what we're dealing with in Iran, and in fact, 582 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: there are concerns about the links between those countries and 583 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: the possibility in the future of missile and even nuclear 584 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: weapons transfer, non proliferation concerns. So Trump is stepping up 585 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: to the plate here with this foreign policy team and 586 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: taking all of this, taking all of this right up front, 587 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: and I certainly hope they're successful because there are there's 588 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: really no room for there's no margin for error on 589 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. You really have to get it right. And 590 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: we shall see if the Trump team is able to. 591 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you more about North Korea here coming 592 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: up in just a few minutes. We'll get into a 593 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: Buck Brief and we'll be joined by my friend Gordon 594 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: Chang for more in depth analysis of all things Korea 595 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: and China and much more. Stay with me. You are 596 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: now entering the Freedom Technical Operations Center. All sensitive programs 597 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: must be kept strictly. Need to know Team Buck is 598 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: cleared and ready for the Buck Brief. The war of 599 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: words between President Trump and Kim Jong un, the leader 600 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: of North Korea, intensifies. We have an official communica from 601 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: North Korea's news agency, and I want to read to 602 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: you exactly, and this is from Kim Jong on the 603 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: first time ever a North Korean leader has addressed a 604 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: US leader directly in this way. I want to read 605 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: to you the text of this Kim Jong un response 606 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: to President Trump, the speech made by the US President 607 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: in his maiden address on the UN Arena, in the 608 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: prevailing serious circumstances in which the situation on the Korean 609 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: peninsula has been rendered tense as never before and is 610 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: inching closer to a touch and ghost state is arousing 611 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: worldwide concern, shaping the general idea of what he would say. 612 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: I expected he would make stereotype repaired remarks a little 613 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: different from what he used to utter in his office 614 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: on the spur of the moment as he had to 615 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: speak on the world's biggest official diplomatic stage, but far 616 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: from making remarks of any persuasive power that can be 617 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: viewed to be helpful to diffusing tensions, tensions, he made 618 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: unprecedented rude nonsense one has never heard from any of 619 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: his predecessors. A frightened dog, barks Louder. I'd like to 620 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: advise Trump to exercise prudence in selecting words and to 621 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: be considerate of whom he speaks to when making a 622 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: speech in front of the world. The mentally deranged behavior 623 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: of the US president openly expressing on the UN arena 624 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: the unethical will to totally destroy a sovereign state beyond 625 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: the boundary of threats of regime change or overturn of 626 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: social system makes even those with normal thinking faculty think 627 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: about discretion and composure. His remarks remind me of such 628 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: words as political layman and political heretic, which were in 629 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: vogue in reference to Trump during his presidential election campaign. 630 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: After taking office, Trump has rendered the world restless through 631 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: threats and blackmail against all countries in the world. He 632 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of 633 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: a country, and he is surely a rogue and a 634 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician. 635 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: His remarks, which describe the US option through straightforward expression 636 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: of his will, have convinced me, rather than frightening or 637 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: stopping me, that the path I chose is correct and 638 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: that it is the one I have to follow to 639 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: the last. Now that Trump has denied the existence of 640 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: and insulted me and my country in front of the 641 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: eyes of the world, and made the most ferocious declaration 642 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: of a war in history, that he would destroy the 643 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: democratic People's Republic of Korea. We will consider it with seriousness, 644 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: exercising of a corresponding highest level of hardline countermeasure in history. 645 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: Action is the best option in treating the Doddard, who, 646 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: hard of hearing, is uttering only what he wants to say. 647 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: As a man representing the DPRK and on behalf of 648 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: the dignity and honor of my state and people on 649 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: my own, I will make the man holding the prerogative 650 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Command in the US paid dearly for 651 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: his speech calling for totally destroying the DPRK. This is 652 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: not a rhetorical expression loved by Trump. I am now 653 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: thinking hard about what response he could have expected when 654 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: he allowed such eccentric words to trip off his tongue. 655 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: Whatever Trump might have expected, he will face results beyond 656 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: his expectation. I will surely and definitely tame the mentally 657 00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: deranged US dotord with fire. That is the North Korean 658 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: Premier's response to President Trump's speech at the United Nations. 659 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: And I just have to say that this is getting 660 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: pretty intense. They are also threatening now. North Korea is 661 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: threatening to detonate a hydrogen bomb, a thermonuclear device, over 662 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: the Pacific Now this would mean there could be radiation 663 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: spreading to who knows where. This would be the first 664 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: time if they do this, it would be the first 665 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: time ever that the North has done this outside of 666 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: its borders. So it's clearly a major escalation, a major provocation, 667 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: and it's something that going forward we are going to 668 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: have to be on the lookout for, because if North 669 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: Korea does in fact decide that it is going to 670 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: just go all in and test Trump's hand here, I 671 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: don't know how we could just sit back and allow 672 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: them to detonate a hydrogen bomb over the Pacific in 673 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: the atmosphere. I don't think that we could stand by 674 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: and allow that. So we're getting very close to what 675 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: could be provocations that demand some kind of military response. 676 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: And the moment you begin to open up that Pandora's box, 677 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: you're in an incredibly precarious place. So this is an 678 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: issue that, like I said, I'm gonna be watching all weekend. 679 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: We are in uncharted territory here with North Korea. I mean, 680 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: this is a regime that, as I've been telling you 681 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: all week is so vicious, is so immoral, so destructive 682 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: of its own people. I mean, it operates concentration camps. 683 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: It is the only place on Earth where you still 684 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: have a modern day communist gulag that is fully functional, 685 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: and that we think that we can assess what the 686 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: response will be from this guy who's who's my age, basically, 687 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: who has nuclear weapons, a million man army, and is 688 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:14,479 Speaker 1: worshiped in this hyper militaristic, xenophobic cult. It is just 689 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: the most combustible and most dangerous national security challenge in 690 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: the world right now, and the Trump ad administration is 691 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: absolutely playing high stakes poker. I think that they recognize 692 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: that pushing China on this now and finally forcing China 693 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: to really show us where they stand on this is 694 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: the only option that kicking the can further down the road. 695 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 1: That pushing this issue off into the future is just 696 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: not something that in good conscience the commander in chief 697 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: could do right now. So this is something that will 698 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: require really steely nerves on the part of the senior 699 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: administration diplomats Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State, Nicky Haley 700 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: as US Ambassador to the United Nations. I am I 701 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: am absolutely feeling like this is in a new phase 702 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: and a new stage. This is not business as usual. 703 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: This is not the status quo. And when you have 704 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: a foreign head of state, even for a place as 705 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: bizarre as North Korea, when you have a head of 706 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: state who is saying that he's going to detonate a 707 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: nuke in the atmosphere and is directly challenging our commander 708 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: in chief our armed forces and saying that he will 709 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: take extreme countermeasures against us, nobody really knows what the 710 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: future is going to look like here. This North Korea 711 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: is a problem that has been decades in the making, 712 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna figure out, I think here much sooner 713 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: than decades in the future, what's going to happen. So 714 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring in Gordon Chang here in just a 715 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: few minutes. Stay with me for that, and we'll get 716 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: deeper into North Korea News of the day. All right, 717 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: welcome back, everybody, are deep dive into North Korea and 718 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: the nuclear standoff there continues. We're joined by Gordon Chang. 719 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: He's the author of the Coming Collapse of China and 720 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: nuclear showdown North Korea takes on the world. Gordon has 721 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: always great to have you, Thanks Buck. Okay, this feels different, Gordon. 722 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: This feels like an escalation beyond what we've seen in 723 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: the past. What do you make of it at the 724 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view today. Yeah, there was an escalation 725 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: this week, and it was not the war of words 726 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: that we've had between President Trump and Kim Jong un, 727 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: each other questioning the mental stability of the other. The 728 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: escalation is a good one, and that is President Trump 729 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: imposed sweeping sanctions on those who do business with North Korea, 730 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: that includes Chinese banks. So this is obviously has a 731 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: potential for getting the United States into conflict with China. 732 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Trump on Thursday said that the Chinese President Sijin Ping 733 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: had ordered the Chinese Bank to order Chinese banks not 734 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: to do business with North Korea. On Friday, the Chinese 735 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Central the Foreign Ministry spokesman denied Trump's characterization of that, 736 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: indicating that Chinese banks will still be doing business with 737 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: North Koreans. So this is a zero sum confrontation that 738 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: could get quite ugly. But nonetheless, the United States needs 739 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: to get Chinese and other institutions out of the money 740 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: laundering business for North Korea. Gordon, how effective do you 741 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: think these sanctions can be in terms of changing North 742 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: Korea policy. I want to get back to the issue 743 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: of China and some of the problems that this could 744 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: cause in our relationship with the Chinese. But in terms 745 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: of getting Kim Jong un to stop firing off missiles, 746 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: pushing his nuclear technology, trying to learn more about the 747 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: most devastating weapons known to man, is it possible that 748 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: these sanctions will be enough to at least make him 749 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: calm down a bit with these provocations. Well, these sanctions, 750 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: if they're vigorously implemented, could disarm North Korea because what 751 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: they could do or would do, is shut off the 752 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: flow of funds into the North. That means no money 753 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: for ballistic missiles, no money for nuclear weapons, and no 754 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: money for gift politics, which is Kim John unbuying the 755 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 1: loyalty of generals, admiral's senior party officials with Mercedes Benz 756 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: and other luxury items. So this could completely strangle the 757 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 1: regime because when you look at these sanctions, they essentially 758 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: mean anybody who does business with North Korea is not 759 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: doing business with the United States. We're speaking of Gordon Chang. 760 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 1: He is the author of the Coming Collapse of China 761 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: and nuclear Showdown North Korea takes on the world. Gordon, 762 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: if in fact the sanctions the Trump administration just decided 763 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: to impose this week the executive Order. There's also the 764 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: UN sanctions that were recently agreed upon the Security Council. 765 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: If they do have the effect of dramatically cutting off 766 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: cash to the North Korean regime, is there a possible 767 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: is there a possibility in your mind of Kim Jong 768 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 1: un lashing out? Or could this force or could this 769 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: provoke unpredictable behavior and perhaps even a miscalculation on the 770 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: North Korean regime's part. Anything right now imposing costs on 771 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: North Korea could trigger such a miscalculation on the part 772 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: of Kim. But nonetheless, we've got to do this because 773 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: other approaches that we have tried have failed. It's not 774 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: to say that this one will work, but this is 775 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: the one that we haven't tried before, and best basically 776 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 1: the only thing we haven't tried before, So we really 777 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: not We really need to do coercive things. You know, 778 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: after decades of misguided policies, buck there are no reliable, 779 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: no cost solutions. Everything looking going forward is going to 780 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: have a cost. We're going to have to start to 781 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,919 Speaker 1: bear it if we want to protect ourselves from Kim 782 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: Jong un, and if we want to protect ourselves from 783 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: his backers as well. Gordon, correctly if I'm wrong, but 784 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: I believe you've been on this show before, and when 785 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: I've asked you, when we've been talking about North Korea 786 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: what could be done, you have specified exactly these kinds 787 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: of sanctions. Yes, and largely because I think that they 788 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: do have the capability of basically starving the regime. And 789 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: when you starve the regime, the one thing you can 790 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: do is you can also engage it. Remember Ronald Reagan 791 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: engaged the Soviet Union at the end, but he engaged 792 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: them when the Soviets knew that they had no choice 793 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: but to give up. Well, I think that we should 794 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: engage the camera regime when they understand that they have 795 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: no choice but to give up their missiles and their dukes, 796 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: and we can show them a better path forward. I'm 797 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: not saying that this is one hundred percent going to 798 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: be effective, but I think this is the only path 799 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: that gives us a reliable way out of this. Now, Gordon, 800 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: what do you think the conversation inside the Central Committee 801 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: in Beijing and the upper reaches of power in China. 802 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: What do you think the responses and what are they 803 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: saying amongst themselves after these sanctions have been decided upon 804 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: at the Trump administration this week, two words, holy crap. 805 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: I think that the Chinese are going to be spooked, 806 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: largely because they realized that these sanctions can not only 807 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: target North Korea, but they could affect China's economy, rock 808 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: the financial system, bring down the Communist Party. I think 809 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: that they're worried that Trump may actually have the political 810 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,439 Speaker 1: will to do something effective. So I think that they 811 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: are worried. You think they're worried. What do you think 812 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: they may do in response or at least in the meantime. 813 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: Is it likely that they will at least give lip 814 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: service to playing along or are they going to make 815 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: a lot of protests about this? Probably both. They've already 816 00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: started protesting. There's also already been lip service because we 817 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: heard reports from last week that Chinese banks were dropping 818 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: North Korean customers. They did that about year fifteen months ago, 819 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: but when we stopped looking, they went back to the 820 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: old way of doing things, which is wandering money and 821 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: handling North Korean transactions. So, you know, we know that 822 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: the Chinese are going to resist passive resistance, active resistance, 823 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: But we've got no choice but to make sure that 824 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: they comply, we need to impose costs on them, so 825 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: they realize that they have no choice but to do 826 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: what we want, So that they would go out and 827 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 1: tell the North Koreans they have no choice but to 828 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: do what we want. Gordon changed, but it'll work. There 829 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: have been a couple of missiles fired by North Korea 830 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: over Japan. I think over the last month or so. 831 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: South Korea is obviously always in the crosshairs literally and figuratively. 832 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: Are they supportive of the Trump administration thus far on 833 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: these enhanced sections? And what do you think that what 834 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: do you think they're thinking is I think they're scared 835 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: as well. You know, obviously they see the potential for conflict. 836 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: They realize that if there is a conflict, Soul metropolitan 837 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: area of twenty six million people is at risk. But 838 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that they believe that they're in a 839 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: position really to change the calculus right now, because the 840 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: United States appears determined to actually disarm North Korea. And 841 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, with regard to Japan, they support the United 842 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: States as they always have. They've been much more resolute 843 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: than we have been historically. And I think that they 844 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: now see in Trump a leader who will actually go 845 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: out and do some of the things that they've been 846 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: talking about. Nonetheless, of course the Japanese are, of course 847 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: concerned about conflict, nobody wants it, but nonetheless they are supportive. Gordon, 848 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, there's the threat out there, 849 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: and there was the communicate from Kim Jong un what 850 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: he called Trump a senile old man essentially, and you 851 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: also have the possibility of a hydrogen bomb detonated in 852 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: the atmosphere by North Korea over the Pacific Ocean. How 853 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: how likely would you assess that is? And would what 854 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: would the response of the US and the world be 855 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: if North Korea did detonate a nuke outside of its borders. 856 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: I think that the possibility of a detonation over the Pacific, 857 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: in other words, an atmosphere a test is actually quite high, 858 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: much higher than most of us think, largely because it 859 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: would be Kim Jong owns way of saying, I have 860 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: integrated all of my capabilities and now have a usable weapon. 861 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: I think whether he actually does so or not is 862 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: how he views how he views President Trump's will and 863 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: if he were to go ahead with such a test. 864 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how the United States and others would 865 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: handle it, but I think that that would start to 866 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: of course, put the world on edge and probably would 867 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: start a chain events that eventually led to conflict of 868 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: some sort. That's just a guess, because it's not really 869 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: clear how we would react to an atmospheric test. That 870 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: would be the biggest provocation though, of all so far 871 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: from North Korea in the modern era, right, there's nothing 872 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: else that would really compare well. In the modern era. 873 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: The North Koreans have killed Americans, which in my mind 874 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: is much more of a provocation. You know, they had 875 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: the Puebla, They killed one American in nineteen sixty eight. 876 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty nine, they shot down the US Navy 877 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: EC one twenty one in international airspace, thirty one dead. 878 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: They hacked I met in mind, I met in my lifetime. Gordon. Apologies. 879 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: Modern is a broad term, but yes, I mean over 880 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: the last few years in terms of what they've been 881 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: doing with missiles. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm a little bit 882 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: older than you are. Yes, a detonation of the atmosphere 883 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: would be the most provocative act on the part of 884 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: the North Koreans, unless you consider the sinking of the 885 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,479 Speaker 1: chown On in two ten forty six South Korea and Dead, 886 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 1: and the shelling of Young Bindo also in twenty ten 887 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: four Dead as more provocative. It just depends how you 888 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: view these things, all right. Gordon Chang, author of The 889 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: Coming Collapse of China and Nuclear Showdown North Korea, takes 890 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: on the world. Gordon. Always great to have you. Thank 891 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: you for your time. Thank you so much. Buck team 892 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: will be right back, stay with me. So the former 893 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: FBI director James Comey, who depending on the day, is 894 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 1: either like liberals favorite public servant or the worst public servant. 895 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean it, really, you just never know. When he 896 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: was useful to them, he was great, and then when 897 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: it seemed like he was problems for Hillary, he was 898 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: a hack and a Republican. It just depends on his 899 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: utility for the left. That's what determines the way the 900 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: press and the media talk about him. But I think 901 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 1: he's shown himself beyond any doubt to be a partisan 902 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: and biased player in all this, and his efforts to 903 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 1: combat the Trump administration after he had left office by 904 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: leaking the contents of private conversations with the president to 905 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: the press, put that beyond doubt, but in case he 906 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: wasn't sure that he's not going to get warm hugs 907 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: from everybody, at least on the left. He tried, or 908 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: he was invited to, and then tried to give a 909 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: speech at Howard University, and this is what happened. There's 910 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot of pain and hurt in this country, in 911 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: this world, and so the graduates, it's going to be 912 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: there when you graduate from Howard University. Our country is 913 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: going through one of those periods where we're trying to 914 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: figure out, so who are we really and what do 915 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: we stand for as a member of the family that 916 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: has long guide in the life of this nation. You 917 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: can kind of hear them yelling in the background. I mean, 918 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was really coming through there, 919 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,439 Speaker 1: but as Tie pointed out, it's good that they didn't 920 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: have microphone, you know, because they were yelling. But no justice, 921 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: no peace, I think was one of the chants. And 922 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: then also get out James, comey, you aren't our homie. 923 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: That was another chant. Now, look, this is this is 924 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: one of these instances of campus activism where I just 925 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if at some point we're allowed to just 926 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: say that, whether it's Berkeley or Middlebury or Howard or 927 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: any of these schools. The professors just haven't really done 928 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: their jobs with some of the students. Look. I mean, 929 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: you look in that auditorium and a vast majority of 930 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: the students are sitting there calmly and respectfully and listening 931 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: to the speaker. But this is happening in enough schools, 932 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: and this is not just Howard. Is happening everywhere, right, 933 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's this is a widespread It's on campuses 934 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: all across the country. That there is the I'm going 935 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: to talk to you in the next hour about Free 936 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: Speech Week, which may or may not happen at Berkeley, 937 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: but there is this mentality that you have to make 938 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: your politics known all the time. I just find it 939 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: so tiresome this activism as really a social activity, as 940 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: I think what pushes much of it that people think 941 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: that protesting is fun. In fact, if you take a 942 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: step back and you read Saul Olynsky, and I will 943 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: never forget that Hillary was a huge admirer of Saul 944 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: Lynsky's when she came out of Wellesley, and that that 945 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: just was considered somehow not that big a deal. She 946 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: practically wrote the guy a love letter, but she was 947 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: a big Olynskyite, and I think that's just was an 948 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: early window into the fact that Hillary Clinton wanted power 949 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: and that was the single most important thing that she 950 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: could achieve. And however she went about that, that didn't 951 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,919 Speaker 1: really matter. It was just about doing it. So I 952 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: think with the Olynsky you have one of his important 953 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: tenants is that activism should be fun, that people should 954 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: enjoy it. And he's right. If you want to get 955 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: people to protest, you have to make it fun. If 956 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: you want to get people to be activists, it has 957 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: to seem cool. And that's why you have various celebrities. 958 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: I remember down at Occupy Wall Street you had celebrity 959 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: showing up. I think Michael Moore showed up, and I 960 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: can't even a lot of celebrities showed up down there 961 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: because it was cool. Protesting is cool on the left 962 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: on the right. Other than the Tea Party, which was 963 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: for a specific period of time and led to an 964 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: electoral landslide and had clear messages and was not it 965 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: was not overwhelmingly peaceful and law by it, and it 966 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: was entirely peaceful and law by it. May there were 967 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: if there had been any incidents of the Tea Party 968 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: back in twenty ten, twenty eleven acting up, we would 969 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: have known, we would have known about it and then some. 970 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: But protest is just not part of the culture on 971 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: the On the right, protest was not not something that 972 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: people that are conservative look to as a means of 973 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: speaking out, and campuses are so overwhelmingly left wing, are 974 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: so overwhelmingly progressive that you're just now you can assume 975 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: that whenever there's a protest movement going on, it's almost 976 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: certainly for some Democrat leftist cause. But bringing it all 977 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the way back to James Comy here, Comy is never 978 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: going to be fully accepted is never going to be 979 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: fully accepted on the left. He will always be viewed 980 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: as someone who cost hill or the election via enough 981 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Democrats that he will not be in good standing. So 982 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: that means in some ways he's a somewhat unpredictable player. 983 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, you can't be entirely sure about what James 984 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Combe is going to do going forward and what he's 985 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: going to say, other than he clearly has an axagrim 986 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: with the Trump administration. But I thought it was interesting 987 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: that he can't even give a speech at Howard university 988 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: without getting shouted down, shouting down speakers. This happens. And 989 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: look at Amherst they had people where dressing with black 990 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: arm bands and doing all of this so that Justice 991 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Scalio would feel like he was being I don't know, 992 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: people were shouting down his terrible thoughts. He was just 993 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: sitting Supreme Court justice. When I was in school, there 994 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: was a protest moving against that the political science department. 995 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm a student and I'm a Polysi major, and my 996 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: department boycott the speech of a sitting Supreme Court justice. 997 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: And we were lucky, our little school of like sixteen 998 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: hundred people had anybody wanted to come speak of that stature. 999 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: So this is not new, and I understand that, but 1000 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: it does feel like it's it's worse and it's more pervasive. 1001 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: It everywhere. Um, and we will just have to continue 1002 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: to see how this how this plays out for Comy. 1003 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: And also because I don't think you've heard, you have 1004 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: not heard a lot James Comy likes to be it, 1005 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: likes to be in the spotlight, likes to be the 1006 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,479 Speaker 1: center of attention far too much. Um. He's not gonna 1007 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: just edge edge out of things. He's not gonna just 1008 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: walk away quietly. Um, that's what I have on that. 1009 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I'll come back in a second eight hundred or sorry, 1010 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine 1011 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two five, Um, we will, I think 1012 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: get in some history coming up here in just a 1013 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: little bit. But I have not. I had a little 1014 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: bit of a glitch. I apologize in the last hour 1015 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: I had. I had the wrong screen up here in 1016 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut, so I wasn't seeing your calls come in. 1017 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I thought that I didn't. There were a lot of calls, 1018 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: but I didn't see them, so I didn't know that 1019 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: there were. We had the wrong I had the It 1020 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: was on me. I had the wrong program open. So 1021 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: if you call, then you couldn't get through where you 1022 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: called and you were on hold or we never It's 1023 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: not because I was trying to just rent and ray 1024 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: for the entire hour, I didn't see any calls. Otherwise 1025 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I would have taken them. So if you have an 1026 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: action movie quote that you want to throw my way, 1027 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: if you think you can beat me in the action 1028 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: movie quote game, let's see what you got. And with that, 1029 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: my friends, I'll be back in just a few Welcome 1030 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 1: back to him. I also know I had the wrong 1031 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: call screen up before, and now I heard that some 1032 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 1: of you. We may have dropped off for a second 1033 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: with the technical dificuilty. That's just in the relay technology 1034 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: is a wonderful thing until it's not. But we're back. 1035 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: We're back. It's good. No worries about that. A few 1036 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: notes today, on a few thoughts today on Hurricane Maria. 1037 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel terrible for Puerto Rico. I was just in 1038 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico what I don't know, four or five months ago, 1039 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: six months ago. Now, it's a wonderful place. I have 1040 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: many many friends who grew up there from there, and 1041 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 1: it's in darkness still. They don't know when the power 1042 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: hours going to come back. On a Hurricane Maria really 1043 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: rocked the island, and there's structural damage at a structural 1044 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 1: damage at a damn that is causing an evacuation. Here's 1045 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the New York Times reporting on it. A dam in 1046 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: northwestern Puerto Rico suffered structural damage on Friday. Close to 1047 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: seventy thousand is the estimate of people that could be 1048 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: effected in the case of a collapse. We don't know 1049 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: the details. It is time to get people out, according 1050 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: to the governor, and there's also a flash flash flood warning. 1051 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: It is it is a very rough time in the island. 1052 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I was speaking to a friend of mine today actually 1053 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 1: who is is Puerto Rican and as he would always say, 1054 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: he's American, but his home island is Puerto Rico, and 1055 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: we had a very interesting discussion. I mean, for one, 1056 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: of course, I just wanted I saw him and I said, 1057 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, how's your family, And he told me, look, 1058 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to reach them. I could tell 1059 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: it's I wanted to. I always like being the person 1060 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: who can look so on the eye and say, you know, 1061 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: I understand your stress, but it's gonna be okay. And 1062 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to say that to him, but I also 1063 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to be disingenuous, because I know I don't 1064 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: know what's going on down there. I mean, I'm sure 1065 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: his family's fine, but when you can't reach them, I 1066 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: think just telling people, oh no, it's fine. Given what's 1067 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: going on on the island, he says, there are bridges 1068 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: that have been swept away by rivers, and there's food 1069 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: shortage people. And when I say food shortages, it's not 1070 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: that you know they've had a famine or something, obviously, 1071 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 1: but they can't get food to parts of the island needed. 1072 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: People weren't necessarily as prepared for this as they should 1073 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: have been, even though there was another hurricane that had 1074 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: just gone through there. And so I just was telling him, 1075 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking about him and praying for 1076 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: him and his family. And then we just got into 1077 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: a discussion about some of the politics of Puerto Rico 1078 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and US territory and the way it's described, and he 1079 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: took a look. He had a very interesting perspective I 1080 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: think on this and I can't I can't disagree with it, 1081 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: which is that there would be a different tone in 1082 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: the media if this were Maryland, there would be a 1083 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: different tone in the media, if this were what we 1084 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:19,959 Speaker 1: think of as homeland US, even though even though Puerto 1085 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: Ricans are US citizens, they are Americans, there's a slight disconnect. 1086 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: This came up also recently with Guam. I think a 1087 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, what does that means the 1088 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: US territory? Well, you know, why is Kim Jong un threatening? Wow? Well, yeah, 1089 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: they don't have the same representation rights in Congress. But 1090 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: it's US territory, so it is under it is a 1091 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: US domain, that is US land, so and people are like, oh, Guam, Yeah, 1092 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: it's really far away. But this is a historical or 1093 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: part of our legacy, a part of our historical legacy 1094 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: that I feel like is not well known and not 1095 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and in the case of Puerto Rico, for you know, 1096 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: well over a hundred years now was really the turn 1097 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 1: of the twentieth century and the Spanish American War we've had, 1098 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico has been US territory and they've been American citizens. 1099 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: This is reflected, I think somewhat in the way that 1100 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: the media covers it. It's sort of like a bunch 1101 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of Caribbean islands and Puerto Rico have been hit. It's like, well, 1102 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: those are Americans, so we should we should have that 1103 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: in mind as we see the way that this is 1104 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: being discussed and described, and it's in really really bad shape. 1105 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Another a side note that came up in the discussion 1106 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: that I thought was worthwhile or just interesting was he 1107 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: was telling me that the way that Puerto Rico is 1108 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: viewed by other countries in Latin America is very much 1109 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 1: affected by the fact that it is a US territory. 1110 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So Puerto Ricans have the wonderful gift of citizenship. And 1111 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's a gift in that you have it, 1112 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I have it, or I'm not sure everyen listening as 1113 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 1: a citizen, but you know what I mean, anyone who 1114 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: is a US citizen is very fortunate. So they have that. 1115 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: But there's also criticism that comes from Latin American countries, 1116 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: particularly in the Caribbean, the Caribbean Basin, some South American 1117 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: and Central American countries because they're it's like they're somehow, 1118 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, pampered by being US citizens and all these 1119 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: other countries when they want to go to America they 1120 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 1: have to go through these processes, or as Puerto Ricans 1121 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: have a US passports, they can just go. And I 1122 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: think there are more Puerto Ricans in America than there 1123 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: are on the island of Puerto Rico. Yeah, tie's giving 1124 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: me the nod, YEA saying yes, And I believe they're 1125 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: about a million in New York City, which is the 1126 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 1: single largest concentration of Puerto Ricans in America. So, I mean, 1127 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 1: the Puerto Rican Day Parade here is in terms of size, 1128 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: scope and festivity only perhaps matched or arrivaled by Saint 1129 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,839 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day but I think the Puerto ric Day Parade's 1130 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: prob be a good bit bigger, having been through a 1131 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: lot of them, and I think it's fascinating to see 1132 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the different order, to think about the different competitive narratives 1133 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: between countries that you don't often think of in that way. 1134 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: For example, if you did not know this, there's a 1135 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: competitive is probably a gentle way of putting it. But 1136 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: between Dominicans and Haitians there is a particular tension, national tension. 1137 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,560 Speaker 1: They share the same island but are very different culturally, 1138 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 1: and and there is some ill feeling between and of 1139 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: course every individuals individual I don't mean every, but as 1140 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 1: a as a national narrative, you know, there's some there's 1141 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: some there's some beef, you could say, between between those 1142 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 1: two countries, and with Puerto Rico and the Domican Republic 1143 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of Dominicans in America as well, 1144 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 1: there is also some feeling of it's it's unfair that 1145 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico has this special status and people from the 1146 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: Dominican Republic, which is a lot of of course US 1147 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 1: tourism there and a lot of a lot of Dominicans 1148 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 1: come to America and um that you know, there's there's 1149 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 1: a tension that exists there and this or I talk 1150 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: about this sometimes in the context of the Middle East 1151 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and what countries don't like other countries in the Middle East. 1152 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, pretty much everybody doesn't like the Gulf States 1153 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 1: because they're rich and braddy. That's the so if you're 1154 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 1: from the UAE and if you're from these places Kuwait, 1155 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, especially the smaller wealthier countries the rest of 1156 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,599 Speaker 1: the Arab world, you know, Egyptians are like, uh, these 1157 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: are huge generalizations. I'm just putting it out there. But 1158 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: having this discussion today about you know, the Latin American 1159 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: perceptions of US, of what it is to be a 1160 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: US territory. But anyway, this is a long and roundabout 1161 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: way of or long and roundabout discussion. And I was 1162 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: just musing about Puerto Rico, and I think how few 1163 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: people really understand even think of what the US territories are, 1164 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, the US Virgin Islands, and we don't think 1165 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: of these as America, and they are, and I must 1166 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: say we I'm sure a lot of you are like 1167 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: fuck I do. But the way the media talks about it, 1168 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: there's a four inn. You know, Hawaii is America, right, 1169 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: like everyone, Hawaii is America. You know, we got of 1170 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: course Pearl Harbor there and you've got huge military press. 1171 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,879 Speaker 1: Hawaii is America. But Guam is like, is Guam really America? 1172 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, actually Guam, Guam is America, and 1173 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 1: it is a very important strategic h node. It is 1174 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 1: an important place for America. And Puerto Rico, an island 1175 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 1: of over three million people, is also very much America. 1176 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: And those are our American brothers and sisters on that island, 1177 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: and we need to do everything we can and bring 1178 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: them all the help and support that we can. And 1179 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: I would like to think that that is underway right now. 1180 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Another part of this that has not gotten much at 1181 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: engineer discussion. Trump administration has done a really solid job 1182 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: on these numerous one after another disaster relief efforts, the 1183 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: FEMA deployments, in all the federal pieces that have to 1184 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: put into play here. And you know how you know 1185 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: that it's been good. If it wasn't good, it's all 1186 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 1: you'd hear about. I mean, short of the Iraq War, 1187 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,600 Speaker 1: the single biggest point of opposition to President Bush, or 1188 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say oppositions, single biggest point of criticism for 1189 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: President Bush was can the Katrina response, and I think 1190 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 1: that really haunted him and haunted his administration. And yeah, 1191 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 1: in in profound ways. Now the Iraq War even more so, 1192 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and that was used by the press against him to 1193 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 1: great effect. And that's how the Democrats swept into power 1194 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: and you have the huge shift in the mid terms. 1195 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 1: But Trump has done a good job. You know, they 1196 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: tried here and there that you know Milani was like 1197 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: wearing sneaker and instead of wearing heels or whatever it was. 1198 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: But by and large it has been successful from the 1199 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 1: Trump administration and some very important moments here. And he 1200 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: won't get credit from the media from it, but you 1201 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: know that he deserves it, because if he deserved criticism, 1202 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: it is all you would hear from them. It is 1203 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: absolutely the only thing that would be run on the news. 1204 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Right now, I think we'll talk some Siege of Malta 1205 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: finale coming up, The Siege of Malta Part five. When 1206 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: I last left the story we had seen on the 1207 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: island of Malta, a massive struggle between the Knights of 1208 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 1: Saint John, the Knights hospital Or versus the Ottoman Turks 1209 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: who had landed an invasion force of about forty or 1210 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: fifty thousand in an effort to take this critical fortress 1211 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of the Mediterranean, which was going to 1212 01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: be a waypoint, a beachhead, if you will, for a 1213 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: massive assault into the heart of Europe itself. And when 1214 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: I left the story with you, you had the forces 1215 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: of the Ottoman Turks and the Sultan's right hand Mustapha 1216 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: Pasha and Pialapasha, the admiral, had managed to take Saint Elmo, 1217 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: a fort that had held out well beyond anyone's expectations 1218 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 1: back in the summer of fifteen sixty five. I told 1219 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you the story last week because that was the week 1220 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: of the end of the siege, and we're now going 1221 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: to get to the end of the siege itself. So 1222 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 1: they took They took Saint Elmo after barrages that lasted 1223 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: four weeks and seemed to be endless. And then there 1224 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:56,640 Speaker 1: was that infamous historical episode where the Ottoman Turks beheaded 1225 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: the captives that they had or those that they had captured, 1226 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 1: including some of the dead that they found in Saint Elmo, 1227 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: and floated the bodies across to the remaining forts in 1228 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 1: the Grand Harbor Harbor of Malta, and they had cut 1229 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,839 Speaker 1: off the heads, they put them on crosses, they floated 1230 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 1: them over, and then Valet, in an act of retribution, 1231 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 1: executed his Turkish soldiers and fire executed Turkish captives and 1232 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 1: fired their heads across the Grand Harbor. So this entered 1233 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: the final stage because by taking Fort Saint Elmo, now 1234 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the Grand Harbor, the prize of Malta was open for invasion. 1235 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:45,440 Speaker 1: And you had two major fortresses on outcroppings on peninsulas 1236 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: in the harbors Singleia and Burgu, and on the Fort 1237 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: Saint Angelo on Burgu, and on Singleia you had the 1238 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Fort of Saint Michael's. So all of the Ottoman forces 1239 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 1: were expected to be concentrated in the harbor against those 1240 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 1: two fortresses. But the Turks were crafty and they managed 1241 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 1: to pull their ships across the land, across Mount Skibberus 1242 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 1: and the peninsula that separated the Maramusqueto from the Grand Harbor, 1243 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 1: so that you had Turkish ships and Turkish military forces 1244 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 1: all in the harbor itself. They no longer had to 1245 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 1: go through the mouth of the harbor and be open 1246 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 1: to fire. They opened to fire from the defenders. The 1247 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Knights of Saint John they could now just at will 1248 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: let themselves into the harbor and come at the Knights 1249 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: from both sides. The fighting was vicious and it didn't 1250 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 1: look like the Knights would be able to hold out 1251 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: for long. All the while they were hoping that from 1252 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 1: the north, Don Garcia, the Viceroy of Sicily, would send 1253 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: the much needed reinforcements. He pretended to send them, or 1254 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 1: he promised to send them in June fifteen sixty five, 1255 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: and by the time Saint Elmo had fallen and the 1256 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: forts of Saint Angelo and Saint Michael's were the only 1257 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: thing preventing Ottoman conquest of the island. It was mid 1258 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 1: and late August, going into the end of the fighting season. 1259 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: The Turks sent wave after wave of men up against 1260 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: the thick walls and the well defended bastions of Saint 1261 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 1: Elmo and of Saint Michael's and Saint Angelo, and were 1262 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 1: repulsed time and time again. Their losses were appalling. Going 1263 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: into late August, it seemed as though the Turks would 1264 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: actually be able to overrun one of the positions, and 1265 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 1: this is when a fateful decision was made by de Valete, 1266 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: Jean parisl de Valet, the Grand Master of the Knights 1267 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 1: of Saint John on Malta in fifteen sixty five, instead 1268 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 1: of saying that they should retreat to their main citadel, 1269 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: to the Inner Sanctum, the inner fortress of the Grand Harbor, 1270 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and to pull away from the walls at Burgo and Singlia, 1271 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,959 Speaker 1: which are the two peninsulas and towns, and on each peninsula, 1272 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 1: in each town there was one main fortress. Instead of 1273 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: pulling back to Fort Saint Angelo and hoping to hold 1274 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: that one position, he said, no, that just means that 1275 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 1: we will lose. It's inevitable. If we're going to hold out, 1276 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: we have to hold all of it. If they are 1277 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: able to concentrate their forces against one single defensive strong point, 1278 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 1: they will pound us into rubbles. So this was against 1279 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,759 Speaker 1: the Council, and it was an incredibly bold military decision 1280 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: at the time because it was against the Council of 1281 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: all of his most trusted knights, and they insisted on 1282 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 1: maintaining the defense of both forts, both towns, all of 1283 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: the walls, despite the artillery barrages and the Ottoman efforts 1284 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:03,560 Speaker 1: to scale and scale the walls and sees these defensive 1285 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 1: strong points. There was one period, there was one day 1286 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 1: when it looked as though Burgo was going to be 1287 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 1: entirely overrun, and this is when the capital of Malta, Medina, 1288 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 1: came into play. This is when it became a decisive 1289 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,640 Speaker 1: mistake for the Ottomans. They left Medina alone. Medina was 1290 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,679 Speaker 1: the capital city of Malta and there was a small 1291 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: cavalry contingent that was allowed to roam free. The Turks 1292 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: figured that it wouldn't be it was away from the 1293 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: main battle, it wouldn't be enough of an issue, and 1294 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: that they could just defend their rear guard as they 1295 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 1: needed to. But as it turned out, at a critical moment, 1296 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: when the Knights of Saint John were about to be 1297 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: overrun and Malta would have been taken by the Turks, 1298 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 1: and then after that Sicily and after that Italy and 1299 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 1: the European mainland at least would have been the next 1300 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 1: targets for the Sultan's conquest. But the cavalry charge from 1301 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Medina into the rear of the Turkish camp managed to 1302 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 1: turn the tide of battle. The Turks would have probably 1303 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: stayed and finished off Burgu, but they thought that that 1304 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,640 Speaker 1: small cavalry contingent that they had left from Medina was 1305 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: in fact the much anticipated reinforcements from Sicily, when it 1306 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,560 Speaker 1: was really just the equivalent of a few patrols on horseback. 1307 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: But at the moment when it was impossible for the 1308 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Knights of Saint John to continue to hold the line 1309 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 1: and to defend the walls of the fortresses of Malta 1310 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 1: on the Grand Harbor against the Turkish invasion, it was 1311 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:46,759 Speaker 1: a small contingent of Maltese cavalry that brought the Turks 1312 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 1: out of their forward fighting positions, brought them back into 1313 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 1: their camp to deal with what they thought was an 1314 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: invasion force in the rear of where they had set 1315 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 1: up their main positions, so they were able so the 1316 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,799 Speaker 1: Knights of Saint John were able to hold. And then finally, 1317 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 1: starting in the first week of September, after all of 1318 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 1: the delay, you had the arrival the setting sail, and 1319 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 1: then the transfer of reinforcements from Don Garcia in Sicily. 1320 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: He had brought together a force that was not quite 1321 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: large enough necessarily to completely frighten away the Turkish military. 1322 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,719 Speaker 1: What was left of it military, its army, and the armada, 1323 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,639 Speaker 1: it's naval forces arrayed with it, but they had lost 1324 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: much of their fighting spirit the janissaries, the new soldiers, 1325 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,679 Speaker 1: the crack troops of the Ottoman Empire had sustained massive losses. 1326 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Dysenterry was widespread in the camp, and they were either 1327 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: going to have to stay through the winter on the 1328 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: island of Malta, which had already been already been harvested 1329 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,959 Speaker 1: and there was very little left. The wells had been poisoned. 1330 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:08,719 Speaker 1: They could either stay or go. And on September eleventh, 1331 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 1: fifteen sixty five, the Great Turkish invasion of Malta came 1332 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 1: to a halt, and they withdrew back to the seat 1333 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: of Ottoman power in is Stanbul. And that is how 1334 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: the siege of the Great Siege of Malta ended. I 1335 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: would love to see this turned into a movie. I 1336 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,879 Speaker 1: would love to see this made into a series, because 1337 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: it's hard to convey without going into great detail and 1338 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 1: without spending much more time than I'm going to today 1339 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: or on the show. The ferocity of the person to 1340 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 1: person combat here, it's hard to make it seem real, 1341 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 1: I think, without the visualizations of it. But this battle 1342 01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,600 Speaker 1: on this little island in the middle of the Mediterranean 1343 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: that came to its conclusion in September of fifteen sixty 1344 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: five had an enormous impact on the Islamic conquest, the 1345 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Ottoman expansion, and were it not for their ability to 1346 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: turn back the Ottoman Turks at Malta in fifteen sixty five, 1347 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you would not then have had in fifteen seventy one 1348 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: the decisive naval engagement of Lepanto, which I'm also hoping 1349 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 1: to get a chance to talk to you about on 1350 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 1: this show, where the Ottoman fleet was annihilated, and it 1351 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,600 Speaker 1: had as its goal the destruction of the unified Christian 1352 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 1: naval forces so that in the following fighting season they 1353 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: would be unopposed and could land wherever they wanted and 1354 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,559 Speaker 1: start an invasion by sea, a massive, amphibious landing, if 1355 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 1: you will, of Ottoman forces to take the fight into 1356 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the heart of Europe itself. So it's a battle. One 1357 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 1: day I will get to Malta. One day I will 1358 01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,759 Speaker 1: be able to share with you photos hopefully and personal 1359 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 1: stories of it on on Facebook and on this show. 1360 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 1: But in the meantime it is one of the most 1361 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: interesting for me at least one of the most interesting 1362 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: moments in the Cross versus Crescent struggle, and I highly 1363 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 1: recommend the Great Siege by Earnly Bradford, very readable, very 1364 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: excellent account of this battle. And that is the end 1365 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: of the siege of Malta. And now we will talk 1366 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 1: about some other things. I'll be right back. So that's 1367 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:48,400 Speaker 1: how it went the last time the right wing provocateur. 1368 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 1: That seems to be the main way I see him describe. 1369 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 1: But that was the scene when that was the sounds, 1370 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I should say, when Milo Unapolis last was at Berkeley, 1371 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,639 Speaker 1: there or alarms and broken windows and mobs and rioting 1372 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 1: and screaming and people completely lost their minds. I should 1373 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: note that there is another Milo appearance that has planned 1374 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 1: coming up at Berkeley here, and no one really knows 1375 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I'm seeing reports that it's canceled. 1376 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm seeing reports that it's on, seeing reports that the 1377 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,720 Speaker 1: speakers that are listed as speaking aren't even showing up. 1378 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a publicity stunt. I 1379 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here, but I do know 1380 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: that this is getting a fair bit of attention. Here's 1381 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 1: what the La Times is reporting on this right now. 1382 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 1: A series of talks by controversial speakers being plan at 1383 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 1: UC Berkeley by right wing provocateur There you go, Milo, 1384 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:57,040 Speaker 1: Unopolis appears to be falling apart as the Sunday kickoff 1385 01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: date approaches for starters you see, Berkeley officials say only 1386 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,680 Speaker 1: four speakers have confirmed their visit with the university. At 1387 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,800 Speaker 1: least four other speakers that Junopolis had touted in press 1388 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: releases have said they were blindsided by their inclusion on 1389 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 1: the schedule and never intended to come. I saw in 1390 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: the speakers list here initially you had and Coulter listed 1391 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:24,760 Speaker 1: to speak. You had Lucian Wintrich, who is a writer 1392 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: for Gateway Punnet. We've actually had him on this show 1393 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,879 Speaker 1: in the past. I'm seeing that Mike Cernovich is supposed 1394 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,600 Speaker 1: to be there, and there are some others who have 1395 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 1: said that not only they're not going to be there. 1396 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,599 Speaker 1: Charles Murray said he's not going to be there, and 1397 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 1: he also said that he had some pretty choice words 1398 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I saw quoted about Milo, calling him a despicable blank. 1399 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: So there's that. But Steve Bannon maybe showing up, This 1400 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 1: is just this is in flux right now. We'll find 1401 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 1: out more. He's what. The La Times as of this morning, 1402 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,640 Speaker 1: was reporting a counter demonstration is scheduled in Berkeley on Saturday. 1403 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,679 Speaker 1: The day before the Free Speech Week events are set 1404 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: to kick off. The event, dubbed No Hate in the 1405 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Bay March against White Supremacy, is sponsored by an array 1406 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 1: of groups, including labor unions and human rights organizations. Ben Shapiro, 1407 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: a far less controversial figure than many on next week's schedule, 1408 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,559 Speaker 1: who speaking engagement in Berkeley went off without a hitch, 1409 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 1: said that regardless of whether the event happens, Unopolis got 1410 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: what he wants headline. Yeah, I'm getting the sense end 1411 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: quote there. I'm getting the sense that this is just 1412 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Milo wanting people talking about Milo, and here I am 1413 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: doing that. I had had him on radio a few 1414 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:50,840 Speaker 1: times some years ago, and then he became well, he 1415 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,639 Speaker 1: no longer had interest in doing certain radio shows. I suppose. 1416 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was all about, but he 1417 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: has obviously had some difficult in the press in recent times. 1418 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: But the fact that this can create such a stir 1419 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: that even after the Ben Shapiro speech at Berkeley, which 1420 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 1: was a pretty straightforward conservative Ben did a very good job, 1421 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:19,520 Speaker 1: but it's a pretty straightforward conservative speech, wasn't anything overly provocative, 1422 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 1: but that you can do this, that you can just 1423 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 1: put out there the hint of a conservative conservative speaker 1424 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,840 Speaker 1: in the area of Berkeley or in Berkeley campus, on 1425 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Berkeley campus itself, and that gets this reaction. Is just 1426 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:41,719 Speaker 1: astonishing that they keep doing this. It is so clearly 1427 01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 1: undermining the left's any rational and reasonable Democrats are seeing 1428 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: that this undermines the left's premise that it is intellectually 1429 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: superior to the right, that it is all about freedom, 1430 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 1: that they can be called liberals. This goes to one 1431 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 1: of the my key points that I've been making on 1432 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,640 Speaker 1: radio from the earliest days of being on radio, and 1433 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 1: that is that you absolutely cannot call yourself a liberal 1434 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,720 Speaker 1: if you are opposing free speech based on content that 1435 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,760 Speaker 1: you don't like. That's why liberal from the left in 1436 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 1: this country is a misnomer, and I think it's intentional. 1437 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,639 Speaker 1: I think that they do it because it is making 1438 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 1: up for their lack of actual liberalism. They've always been 1439 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 1: about statism and having government authority dictate what others can 1440 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 1: and cannot do in their lives. Take more of your 1441 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,640 Speaker 1: private property, and there are no individual rights that are 1442 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: there's only the balancing of collective needs and collective social justice, 1443 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and that that's the primary mission of the state. So 1444 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 1: I just think it's fascinating that this keeps playing out. 1445 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,640 Speaker 1: I wish that I was controversial enough that if I 1446 01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 1: showed up at Berkeley people would freak out or maybe 1447 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to get this chance to 1448 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 1: be the hated conservative on a college campus, because there's 1449 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,799 Speaker 1: nothing that I say that is not completely and utterly 1450 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 1: defensible of. And in fact, I think that most of 1451 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 1: the arguments that I make, I would love to see 1452 01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,960 Speaker 1: the opposition try to defeat it. But but when I 1453 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,000 Speaker 1: think about this, I realize that they don't want to debate. 1454 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,880 Speaker 1: They want to shout down. They don't want to have 1455 01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: conservatives come to campus and then annihilate their premises. They 1456 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,759 Speaker 1: want to just use the threat of force and mayhem 1457 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 1: and destruction of property to prevent people from saying stuff 1458 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,040 Speaker 1: they don't like. Snowflake Ism is a real disease in 1459 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 1: this country. You have an entire generation or two. Keep 1460 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 1: in mind that a lot of Antifa ANDFA they're not young. 1461 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 1: I mean in the sense that they're not college kids 1462 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 1: who don't know any better. Antifa and you know, whatever 1463 01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,519 Speaker 1: we want to call it, ANDFA is actually full of 1464 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 1: people who are supposed to be productive citizens, who have 1465 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: jobs and perhaps even families that are adults. The ones 1466 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,640 Speaker 1: who've been arrested in the Bay Area, a lot of 1467 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 1: them their thirties. They're my age. I mean, I'm worried 1468 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,599 Speaker 1: about throwing my back out when I pick up bottled 1469 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 1: water for Miss Molly on the way home. These people 1470 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 1: are dressing all in black with masks and tactical gear, 1471 01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,240 Speaker 1: squaring off against police and getting tear gassed so that 1472 01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 1: they can stop Milo from coming to speak, or trying 1473 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,360 Speaker 1: to stop Ben Shapiro. This is I keep coming back 1474 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 1: to the word delusional. These people are delusional. They are 1475 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: detached from reality. They think that they're fighting a struggle 1476 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,040 Speaker 1: that's not even there, and the media is sympathetic towards them. 1477 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,679 Speaker 1: That there's not more open mockery of the anti campus 1478 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: speech movement and antifa and all of this tells us 1479 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 1: so much about the state of American pop culture right now. 1480 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there should be SNL sketches with a bunch 1481 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 1: of guys like, oh do you see that, Let's go 1482 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 1: out there with a speech on campus. I'm gonna wear 1483 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,680 Speaker 1: all black because I'm part of ed Tifa, like a 1484 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:13,360 Speaker 1: like a super anti speech ninja about to stabbed them 1485 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,800 Speaker 1: from speaking. I mean, you could make fun of this 1486 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 1: stuff all day, but instead you have a left largely 1487 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,880 Speaker 1: sympathetic to it. I mean, it's just pathetic, it really is. 1488 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if this right wing week I'm sorry, free 1489 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 1: speech week rather actually ends up happening, and we'll be 1490 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 1: back with much more. Stay with me, Welcome back, Team. 1491 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: So there are some Freedom Hunt traditions, rituals and characters 1492 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,519 Speaker 1: that you may not be entirely familiar with, and as 1493 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm making a particular point to get to all of 1494 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 1: the and we will have Teambuck Speaks coming up here 1495 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,599 Speaker 1: in a moment. But to make sure that I am 1496 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: as in touch with the wonderful folks all across the 1497 01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:01,839 Speaker 1: country and around the world known as Team, I can sense, 1498 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,559 Speaker 1: or rather I'm just reading it over and over again, 1499 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,920 Speaker 1: that people actually miss some of our earlier characters and 1500 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 1: special correspondence, including some who are figments of my imagination, 1501 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 1: or rather figments of your imagination, our imagination, I don't know, 1502 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,200 Speaker 1: or they're totally real, whatever you want to believe. So, 1503 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 1: back in the days of the Blaze, I started with 1504 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:33,639 Speaker 1: a little furry bear and we named him Commie Bear, 1505 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,080 Speaker 1: and he if you've never seen what he looks like. 1506 01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:41,880 Speaker 1: You can go to bucksxon dot com slash store. There 1507 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 1: is a photograph of him on the t shirts of 1508 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Commie Bear that you can see. But Commie Bear is 1509 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:52,519 Speaker 1: a both an international jet setter as well as a 1510 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,960 Speaker 1: diehard communist from the Soviet era. He carries around with 1511 01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,600 Speaker 1: him a bottle of vodka and a Kalashna cough at 1512 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 1: all time. Tis and he's a very astute observer. I mean, 1513 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 1: he's small and furry and belligerent, but he's a very 1514 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,479 Speaker 1: astute observer of everything that is happening in the world 1515 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,519 Speaker 1: of international politics and also pop culture. So like a 1516 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 1: true socialist or communist, he loves spending other people's money 1517 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 1: and hang out in the corridors of power. But he 1518 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,880 Speaker 1: also likes to lecture us all about capitalism and how 1519 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,680 Speaker 1: we are imperialist dogs and basically the worst. So our 1520 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:34,719 Speaker 1: special socialism correspondent here on the show is indeed Comrade 1521 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Commy Beert and making his debut on Buck section with 1522 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: America now Here is the one and only great things 1523 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Imperialist hyenas has been long time, is your favorite Marxist Mammel, 1524 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 1: the cuddling Communist, the one the only the commy bet Okay, okay, 1525 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,559 Speaker 1: So it's time for bust out the hammer and sickle 1526 01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 1: of truth for real, some of you capitalist swine or 1527 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,719 Speaker 1: askin question, did Siebert help throw the election to get 1528 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:08,160 Speaker 1: my main home slice Donald Trump elected to presidency of 1529 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 1: americanski scum? Was their collusion like when Kamy Beer colluded 1530 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 1: with Tea Swift and Beyonce on super yacht in the 1531 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:22,240 Speaker 1: gan Did Kanye take Manafort for ride in G five plane? 1532 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,000 Speaker 1: And those comrade Putin have top secret photo of Hillary 1533 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 1: doing yoga? Huh? These are answers that only Kamy Beert 1534 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,440 Speaker 1: can give you in due time. But first let's understand 1535 01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:39,879 Speaker 1: that as always U chubby materialistic capitalist donkeys, the proof 1536 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 1: is in the vodka those Vedanya filthy Yankee dogs. Well, 1537 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Team Buck, we have covered a lot of territorial the 1538 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,800 Speaker 1: program today. He'll notice that this show is a bit 1539 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 1: different from some of the more traditional radio talk radio 1540 01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:00,360 Speaker 1: programs out there, and based on a lot of the 1541 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,320 Speaker 1: commentary that I'm seeing from all of you, You're cool 1542 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 1: with that. In fact, I'm getting encouragement to do even 1543 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 1: more experimental segments and bring new things into the show. 1544 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,120 Speaker 1: So with that in mind. I will now return to 1545 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 1: what is becoming a favorite segments, Team Buck Speaks. And 1546 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 1: before I start sharing words of wisdom from all across 1547 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,479 Speaker 1: the country and in fact, in some cases around the world, 1548 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to remind you listening, whether you're listening live 1549 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,599 Speaker 1: or on the iheartapp, on playback or on iTunes the 1550 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,559 Speaker 1: podcast Buck Sexton with America. Now you can send me 1551 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 1: messages and I will read them at Facebook dot com 1552 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:45,520 Speaker 1: slash buck Sexton. And if it is particularly insightful, encouraging, witty, funny, 1553 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:50,320 Speaker 1: and or you critique the show in a humorous fashion, 1554 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 1: you may in fact get your message on air. But 1555 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,040 Speaker 1: nice stuff is my favorite. So I'm just gonna put 1556 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,519 Speaker 1: that out there. And I am the one who does 1557 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,960 Speaker 1: the picking when it comes to the Facebook messages. So 1558 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: here's what we've got for Team buck Speaks. David writes, 1559 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: maybe Yale can call itself the university formerly known as 1560 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:14,160 Speaker 1: or they can use in emoji. My suggestion would be, 1561 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,400 Speaker 1: and then he put in a bunch of different emojis, 1562 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,240 Speaker 1: which I can't even really understand where he's going for there, 1563 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,040 Speaker 1: but I appreciate that. But yes, David, to your point 1564 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 1: about Yale, this is where you see how serious the 1565 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 1: left really is in this country about its politically correct nonsense. 1566 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,719 Speaker 1: They will do things that are at other people's expense, 1567 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,240 Speaker 1: and they will make a big show of trying to 1568 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 1: seem like they care a great deal about social justice 1569 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 1: and intersectional politics and all that stuff. But when it's 1570 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be an issue, or it's going to be 1571 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 1: something that in general is painful for them, it costs 1572 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 1: them money or cost them prestige, then these universities they 1573 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,280 Speaker 1: get pretty wimpy pretty quickly. I can assure you that 1574 01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 1: Yale University, which currently costs over fifty thousand dollars a 1575 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 1: year for an undergrad and is among the most elite 1576 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 1: institutions of higher learning on the planet, at least by reputation, 1577 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,599 Speaker 1: is not going to change its name. People pay all 1578 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 1: that money and struggle so hard to get into that place. 1579 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,599 Speaker 1: Not because the education. And this is very important, Fredwin 1580 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 1: listening to know, to hear, and to believe, because I 1581 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,800 Speaker 1: assure you I know that it is true. It's not 1582 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,080 Speaker 1: that you're going to get a better education in an 1583 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 1: undergraduate program at Yale than at whatever state school you 1584 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,160 Speaker 1: are in or whatever college you choose to go to. 1585 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 1: It's that you have Yale on your resume. You can 1586 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,920 Speaker 1: walk around with a Yale sweatshirt on and say, oh, 1587 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm our Yale man. Well, hello, I'm from Yale, and 1588 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 1: that has some currency in social settings as well as 1589 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 1: professional settings. That's what it's all about. That's seventy five 1590 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,960 Speaker 1: to eighty percent of the benefit of going to these places. 1591 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: So they will not change the name, all right, Caroline writes, 1592 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 1: Tim Buck speaks, very good segment. Thank you, Caroline. Also, 1593 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: please keep the history deep dives coming about the overrated artists. 1594 01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 1: I completely agree with Billy, Joel and Springsteen. Now with 1595 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: regard to Bob Dylan, you see the value in his 1596 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,960 Speaker 1: songwriting and poetry when other artists perform his work. I 1597 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 1: am a diehard Jimmy Hendrix fan, and Hendrix was a 1598 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,639 Speaker 1: die hard Bob Dylan fan. He always had a book 1599 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:33,000 Speaker 1: of Dylan's lyrics wherever he went. In fact, the famous 1600 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,759 Speaker 1: All Along the watch Tower was written by Bob Dylan 1601 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,840 Speaker 1: and covered by Hendrix. That being said, I never sit 1602 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,519 Speaker 1: and listen to Bob Dylan performing his own songs, and 1603 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 1: neither should anyone else. Really shields high not harmonicas very 1604 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 1: interesting musical analysis from Caroline there. Carolin, thank you so 1605 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,839 Speaker 1: much for sharing that. I do think that Jimmy Hendrix 1606 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,680 Speaker 1: is pretty fantastic, and I would agree with you at 1607 01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 1: least that there is room for discuss about Bob Dylan's 1608 01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,240 Speaker 1: merit as a lyricist above his ability as an actual 1609 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 1: musical performer. Jason a lot of people writing in about 1610 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,720 Speaker 1: the music comments from earlier this week. Jason writes, with 1611 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 1: regard to Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA is a 1612 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 1: song about how terrible the USA is, ironic that people 1613 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,920 Speaker 1: think it's patriotic. Check out the lyrics to vindicate your opinion. Also, yeah, 1614 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:29,679 Speaker 1: he totally stinks, That's what Jason Jason says here. And 1615 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 1: I did pull the lyrics, and I already knew this, 1616 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: but just in case you didn't know that whole Bone 1617 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,720 Speaker 1: in the USA, I was, you know that whole I mean, 1618 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,200 Speaker 1: I know that's not the best Springsteen impersonation. And I'm 1619 01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 1: just a guy in a radio mic right now. But 1620 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,599 Speaker 1: here is a selection of lyrics from that song. Got 1621 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,719 Speaker 1: in a little hometown jam, so they put a rifle 1622 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,639 Speaker 1: in my hand, sent me off to our foreign land 1623 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,639 Speaker 1: to go and kill the yellow man. And quote, yes, 1624 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,920 Speaker 1: I have to agree with Jason's assessment here that Born 1625 01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 1: in the USA is not a patriotic song. It is, 1626 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:09,799 Speaker 1: in fact a classic liberal tear down America the song 1627 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:16,840 Speaker 1: or a moment of a leftist artistic expression which we've 1628 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 1: all become so used to. All Right, we've got Irwin writing, Hey, Buck. 1629 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,559 Speaker 1: Since I listen to your podcasts every morning on my walk, 1630 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm always a little behind. This morning, I heard your 1631 01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,599 Speaker 1: friend ned Ryan suggests that we should perhaps give into 1632 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,799 Speaker 1: DACA if we are able to get the Wall, healthcare reform, 1633 01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,559 Speaker 1: and tax relief. I for one, couldn't disagree more. I 1634 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,320 Speaker 1: am sick to death of allowing Democrats to wear us 1635 01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:44,240 Speaker 1: down on major issues. I find it particularly distasteful when 1636 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 1: supposedly we have the House, Senate and Presidency. What a 1637 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,920 Speaker 1: load of crap. I say, we fight to the bitter end, 1638 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,759 Speaker 1: but I know that we will. That will never happen 1639 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,880 Speaker 1: because of the absolute slime that we have as our 1640 01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,519 Speaker 1: so called quote representatives. Best wishes to you and yours, 1641 01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,800 Speaker 1: love your show from Irwin Irwin Man, thank you so 1642 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 1: much for the note. Appreciate it. And in terms of 1643 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:13,680 Speaker 1: Republicans being slimy and not being willing to fight. You 1644 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,040 Speaker 1: picked quite a week at least to write into a team. 1645 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 1: Buck speaks here because with the apparent failure of yet 1646 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,040 Speaker 1: another repeal and replace attempt, I just keep asking the 1647 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: questions the GOP. What would you say you do here? 1648 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,439 Speaker 1: I think it's a very valid, very fair question to ask. 1649 01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 1: And those of you who haven't seen Office Space, consider 1650 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:39,919 Speaker 1: that your movie Watching Homework for the weekend great great comedy, 1651 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's probably available on Netflix at this point. 1652 01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,880 Speaker 1: All Right, Brett writes in with the following, Buck, You're 1653 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,360 Speaker 1: doing a great job. I love the history deep dives. 1654 01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 1: You're in depth analysis on topics of the day, which 1655 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 1: I almost one percent agree with, and your historical perspectives 1656 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 1: on topics like Afghanistan, North Korea and the roots of 1657 01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,439 Speaker 1: radical extremists. I'm sure you've gotten a lot of requests 1658 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,760 Speaker 1: on historical deep dives by now, But what would you 1659 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: think about doing a Christmas special on the World War 1660 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,120 Speaker 1: One truce between the Allies and the Germans on Christmas Day? 1661 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: It'd be very interesting to do a special like that 1662 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 1: I did some years ago at the Blaze. Do a 1663 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,960 Speaker 1: TV special, and I think I also did something on radio, 1664 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,160 Speaker 1: but I definitely did a TV special guest hosting for 1665 01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck on The Blaze TV on the Battle of 1666 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,679 Speaker 1: the Bulge, and in fact, I had some veterans from 1667 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 1: the Battle of the Bulge on the show and they 1668 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: told me what that was like. It was really powerful 1669 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,600 Speaker 1: to get a chance to speak to those veterans and 1670 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,600 Speaker 1: hear what that was like. And it was a tremendous, 1671 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:49,479 Speaker 1: a tremendously precarious moment in the military campaign and our campaign, 1672 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:54,920 Speaker 1: the Allies efforts to defeat Nazi Germany. So I will 1673 01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,080 Speaker 1: get that some thought I am planning on the real 1674 01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 1: Dracula for Halloween, which should be awesome because the real 1675 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:10,040 Speaker 1: Dracula Drakul is fascinating historical character and they just completely 1676 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,800 Speaker 1: forget to tell us about this in school, that he 1677 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: wasn't just some guy that people said some stories about. 1678 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,560 Speaker 1: He was brutal, but he was also very effective and 1679 01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 1: fighting against the Ottomans, and he ties into one of 1680 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,719 Speaker 1: my favorite subjects in all history, which is the cross 1681 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:32,800 Speaker 1: versus Crescent struggles in the Mediterranean and Eastern Europe. So 1682 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 1: we'll definitely have that on Halloween, which will be a 1683 01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of fun aries, writes in the following TJ. From 1684 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,679 Speaker 1: South Korea called in saying we should make a deal 1685 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,840 Speaker 1: with China to unify the peninsula under Soul with an 1686 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 1: agreement and for all US forces to vacate. While I 1687 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,280 Speaker 1: briefly considered this approach as well, this is a classic 1688 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,639 Speaker 1: American mistake. If we take TJ's approach and the way 1689 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,360 Speaker 1: it stands now, Communist China loses nothing by using North 1690 01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,759 Speaker 1: Korea to stick us in the eye. What we should 1691 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 1: do is make it clear to China that they don't 1692 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:04,479 Speaker 1: get their dog on it. If they don't get their 1693 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,160 Speaker 1: dog on a leash, we're going to take care of business, 1694 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,800 Speaker 1: and they will have a substantial military presence on their 1695 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 1: border when we're done. This is in our interest for 1696 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 1: it to happen anyway, So why would we give away 1697 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity in Vietnam when the North went to war 1698 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,840 Speaker 1: with the South, we should have taught the communist a 1699 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,519 Speaker 1: lesson and invaded the North. In the Korean War, we 1700 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 1: should not only we should not only have done the 1701 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 1: same thing, but when China got involved, we should have 1702 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,879 Speaker 1: taken Manchuria. It's obvious that our enemies, whether communist or Jihadi, 1703 01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,479 Speaker 1: don't mind sacrificing millions of their own citizens in order 1704 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,160 Speaker 1: to make political gains. So we need to make them 1705 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,080 Speaker 1: pay a major price, a price that they care about, 1706 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,320 Speaker 1: to truly deter their aggression. It seems the only thing 1707 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:48,479 Speaker 1: that really care about is real estate. That's from aries 1708 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 1: and just let that. I'll let that analysis stand on 1709 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: its own. You can know TJ had a very interesting 1710 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: perspective from South Korea. It's it's pretty awesome to be 1711 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,400 Speaker 1: a radio host in New York City be talking about 1712 01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 1: what's going on in Korea and have somebody listening live 1713 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,920 Speaker 1: to the show call in from the Korean peninsula. We didn't, 1714 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,479 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't prepare that in advance. That wasn't 1715 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 1: set up. We just have listeners. If you have access 1716 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 1: to the internet, you can listen to this show. Which 1717 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,280 Speaker 1: is probably a great time to tell you all that 1718 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,679 Speaker 1: if you ever aren't in radio range, you can listen 1719 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,320 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app and the podcast is always there 1720 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,520 Speaker 1: for you. It's free. You can download it off iTunes, 1721 01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,840 Speaker 1: so please do. Neil writes the following, Hey, Buck, love 1722 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,559 Speaker 1: your radio program. I listen every day. I'm a veteran 1723 01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,280 Speaker 1: live in Charleston, South Carolina, and have the answer to 1724 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,080 Speaker 1: your dilemma. I have a barbecue sauce that is the 1725 01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,559 Speaker 1: best you will ever have. I've been trying to save 1726 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,919 Speaker 1: the cash slowly and eventually it will be in stores. 1727 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 1: But it is what you're but it is what you 1728 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:49,040 Speaker 1: are looking for to start experimenting with barbecue. It'll work 1729 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,320 Speaker 1: great in your slow cooker if you'd like, I'll send 1730 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:53,280 Speaker 1: you a jug for you and Miss Molly to try. 1731 01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:58,479 Speaker 1: That is He's also writes, long lived Team Buck, Steve 1732 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:03,240 Speaker 1: and oh sorry, long live real long lived Team Buck, 1733 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,400 Speaker 1: Neil and Neil. Thank you so much. That's very, very 1734 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: kind of you. I appreciate that. I'm sure your barbecue 1735 01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 1: sauce is phenomenal. And if you ever do get it 1736 01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:12,800 Speaker 1: in stores, call in and you can. You know you 1737 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: can sneak in a little. Hey, I'm the guy who 1738 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,760 Speaker 1: has the new barbecue sauce on the show. Okay, well 1739 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,520 Speaker 1: you can sneak that in sometime, I'm sure. In the conversation, 1740 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:24,720 Speaker 1: Steve writes, keep up the history lessons, Steve, I appreciate 1741 01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 1: that the response to the Malta history segments has been 1742 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:34,760 Speaker 1: overwhelming and overwhelmingly positive. It's not normal or usual for 1743 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,400 Speaker 1: a radio host doing a live show to go into 1744 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,080 Speaker 1: history deep dives like that, so it's considered a little 1745 01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 1: risky in the business. But the fact that there's been 1746 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,439 Speaker 1: such a such a response to it, at least until 1747 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,920 Speaker 1: I hear otherwise from all of you, I'm gonna keep 1748 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,760 Speaker 1: it up, and I'm gonna improve them and do a 1749 01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 1: whole bunch of things with them going forward. So thank 1750 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 1: you for that. Kenneth writes in just heard Yesterday's podcast. 1751 01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,360 Speaker 1: I'd love to taste your scrambled eggs, but I just 1752 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,120 Speaker 1: don't see barbecue without fire. If you find a way 1753 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,800 Speaker 1: to do it, I'd love to hear. But friends and 1754 01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,800 Speaker 1: myself have attempted it, have been attempting barbecue without fire 1755 01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,280 Speaker 1: for years, and it's truly a life's work to do it, 1756 01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 1: even moderately. Well and repeatable fans since the Blaze, keep 1757 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,599 Speaker 1: up the good work, Shields High Well. First of all, 1758 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much Kenneth for a supporting what I do, 1759 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:25,679 Speaker 1: supporting the show, and for your thoughts on my scrambled eggs. 1760 01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,280 Speaker 1: As I've said before, the real secret is just to 1761 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 1: make sure that you take the take the eggs in 1762 01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,800 Speaker 1: the pan off the flame, and you keep doing that 1763 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,599 Speaker 1: instead of just trying to time it out because you're 1764 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna if you leave them on a flame that's anything 1765 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,200 Speaker 1: from medium low heat above, it's so easy to overcook them. 1766 01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,240 Speaker 1: And once the eggs are overcooked, then then you're overcooked, 1767 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,599 Speaker 1: you're dunzo. So you want to take them off the flame, 1768 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 1: mix in things, put them back on the flame. That's 1769 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:57,280 Speaker 1: a huge tip that I find is incredibly, incredibly useful 1770 01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,439 Speaker 1: for making the best imaginable scrambled eggs. He's got me 1771 01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,479 Speaker 1: throwing hot sauce on my eggs these days. Often. I 1772 01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,760 Speaker 1: gotta say, I kind of love that. It's really delicious, 1773 01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,000 Speaker 1: So that's Oh. And also butter. You gotta use butter. 1774 01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Everybody people with this pam spray stuff, it's just it's 1775 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: just not going to be as good. I mean, it's fine, 1776 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 1: but it's just not going to be as good. I've 1777 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,759 Speaker 1: also made some converts recently to thick cut bacon, and 1778 01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased that there's been some some willingness among 1779 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,559 Speaker 1: friends and family to listen to me. Forget about that 1780 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:31,640 Speaker 1: thin cellophane looking clear sea through bacon you get in 1781 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,680 Speaker 1: a grocery store. If you can find a butcher that 1782 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,960 Speaker 1: will actually slice the bacon for you while you're sitting there, 1783 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,960 Speaker 1: and get it thick. And if you can't get that, 1784 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,519 Speaker 1: at least find the thickest cuts of bacon you count 1785 01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 1: in the store. Bacon should be very clearly pork in 1786 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,280 Speaker 1: its flavor. It should not just be a salty, fatty thing. 1787 01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 1: You know. I keep it real when it comes to 1788 01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: the bacon. So, like I said before, if you want 1789 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,760 Speaker 1: to send me a message, you might get it on 1790 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,120 Speaker 1: Team buck Speaks on the show, Facebook dot com slash 1791 01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sex and please do follow me there. I post 1792 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,040 Speaker 1: throughout the day and it's a great way for all 1793 01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 1: of us in the Freedom Hut to keep in touch. 1794 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,680 Speaker 1: So with that, I will ask you to, as I 1795 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,559 Speaker 1: always do, tell a friend or two about the show 1796 01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,160 Speaker 1: if you get the chance. That's the way that we 1797 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,760 Speaker 1: continue to grow. And you have been doing that. Many 1798 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 1: of you have been doing it, and it's so helpful 1799 01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 1: and I greatly appreciate it. We've got an interesting week 1800 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:30,160 Speaker 1: coming up, I'm sure, between the healthcare debacle with Republicans, 1801 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 1: the nuclear standoff on the Korean peninsula, and much more 1802 01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,000 Speaker 1: so excited to be joining you for all of that 1803 01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,320 Speaker 1: until we have that chance, though, I want you to 1804 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,400 Speaker 1: have a fantastic weekend, watch a good movie, eat some 1805 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,320 Speaker 1: barbecue if you can, and until then, Shields Hi