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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 2: And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, April first, twenty twenty five. We are

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Speaker 3: officially in Draft month, just twenty three days away from

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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by

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Speaker 3: Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. It

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Speaker 3: is Miller time. Starting to get exciting around these parts.

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Speaker 3: Thirty visits starting this week. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: information flying around at the owner's beatings, a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of information still compiling into the board as we speak.

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Speaker 3: But this is the final stretch as we work into April.

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Speaker 4: And no, that is not an April fool's joke.

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Speaker 3: We've got Zach Olchuck, Brian brought us Vox Lombardi, Bobby

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Speaker 3: Belt with Chris Beam and the backladder with us.

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Speaker 4: Everybody. This is an exciting time, gentlemen. Brian, I know.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of talk about rules and explanation of

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Speaker 3: the rules and all that stuff, but it's still a

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Speaker 3: lot of draft talk.

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Speaker 5: At the same time, The biggest thing I heard was

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Speaker 5: that the head coach today told us that he wasn't

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Speaker 5: interested in getting his coaches involved in scouting, which I

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Speaker 5: thought was cool.

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Speaker 4: I liked it.

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Speaker 5: I guess I kind of made that up in a way.

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Speaker 5: You know, he said no. He was even talking about

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Speaker 5: how his guys, you know, he listen to these guys,

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Speaker 5: the scouts. It's their job, it's their responsibilities and stuff.

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Speaker 5: That was something I know that we had talked about

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Speaker 5: on a couple of different platforms about this that would

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Speaker 5: the first year, would Brian Schottenheimer say, Hey, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to let the scouts do their job. I'll be there

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Speaker 5: to kind of be to moderate what's going on, much

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Speaker 5: like with Bill Parcells and what he did when he

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Speaker 5: first came here. Let the Scouts do their job, you

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Speaker 5: learn the scouts and then that just that way Schottenheimer's

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Speaker 5: been here before. But what the situation is in that chair,

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Speaker 5: He's gonna almost be like the vice president of the

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Speaker 5: United States. He's going to break ties and so that's

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Speaker 5: where he has to be very mindful. And the fact

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Speaker 5: that he was talking about the scouts do their job.

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Speaker 5: I think that's some of the best news I heard

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Speaker 5: coming out of the owners meetings today and.

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Speaker 4: Then Shody talking about buildings from the outside end. Right.

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Speaker 6: Uh so he did mention edge rushers, but wide receiver

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Speaker 6: corner seems like that's gonna be very much in play

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Speaker 6: there at pick number twelve.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just to be missy, right, because I like, you know, good, good.

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Speaker 4: Miss it is a toxic Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: Do you think that's like a Schoenheimer thing that I'm

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Speaker 7: just gonna let the scouts do this right or he's

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Speaker 7: been to build it so long he's going, Man, that

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Speaker 7: coach at this pick up, this coach, Damn boy, the

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Speaker 7: scouts would be fine, but this coach says non sense

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Speaker 7: right here, I'm gonna let them fly because I've been around.

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Speaker 8: It's a it's a largely new coaching staff and a

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Speaker 8: lot of these guys he talked about that like when

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Speaker 8: he got during the hiring process, he didn't know a

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Speaker 8: lot of them very well. He had like taken recommendations

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Speaker 8: and things like that. So I don't know that he's

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Speaker 8: got a great handle on what kind of evaluators they

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Speaker 8: all are at this point. I mean some of them

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about the oh oh yeah, like he's seen

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Speaker 7: coaches mess the draft up, so he's gonna go, man,

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Speaker 7: you know what, I'm just gonna keep my hands off

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Speaker 7: this and let Will in the guys.

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Speaker 3: That's I think it may be a little bit more

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Speaker 3: of respect element for the scouting department, for the guys

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Speaker 3: that they have found before. I mean, Tyler Smith was

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Speaker 3: a pick that no one had their eyes on, at

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Speaker 4: He ended up being an All Pro.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's a lot of different elements, and

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Speaker 3: that's just one example. But I think it's more so

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Speaker 3: Schottenheimer's been around the building. He's seen the job that

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Speaker 5: I like it. Whatever whatever we however we painted, whatever

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Speaker 5: you know, he's gonna tell us the coaches are going

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Speaker 5: to say, to Bobby's point, there's a lot of coaches

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a very, very at least

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Speaker 5: and as you move along, Will will know that, and

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Speaker 5: then he'll be able to say, Okay, if this guy

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Speaker 5: or Okay, thank you very much, coach. Is there anything

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Speaker 3: It's really a coach's coach scout scout mentality.

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Speaker 5: Never called a third down defense in my life, never

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Speaker 5: and when they and I think there's a place for coaches,

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Speaker 5: I think there are some really good coach evaluators. I

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Speaker 5: want to say this, I would have liked to have

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Speaker 5: worked with Jason Garrett. As much problems as I had

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Speaker 5: I would have liked to work with him in the

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Speaker 5: I think there were some probably some conversations he had

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Speaker 5: I think he had a pretty good understanding about that.

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Speaker 5: You can get some coaches that have some good evaluation

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Speaker 3: And you've got twenty three days to kind of put

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Speaker 3: on this draft class. And when you've got a new

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Speaker 3: at least a little bit here in Schottenheimer, and then

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Speaker 3: you've got a scouting department that's done this the same way.

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Speaker 4: For a number of years too.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to have overthink and it's easier to have

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Speaker 3: there is a full on involvement. Now everyone's going to

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Speaker 3: I thought the overthink side of things was interesting, And Bobby,

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Speaker 3: you brought up the NFL dot com article from Bucky

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Speaker 3: Brooks this past week. You can go check it out.

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Speaker 3: Of course, a friend of the show, former Draft Show

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Speaker 3: analyst in his own right, but Bucky said in the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five NFL Draft, here's a list of names

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Speaker 3: that you shouldn't overthink, and it kind of brought to

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Speaker 3: You can go by your own names. What does it

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Speaker 3: mean to overthink a player? How easy is it to

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Speaker 8: So I think when I think of overthink as just

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Speaker 8: a obviously could meet different things to different people. But

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Speaker 8: whenever I hear anybody talk about that during the draft process,

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Speaker 8: what they're talking about there is you know, something we've

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Speaker 8: touched on recently, fatigue, like name fatigue. Somebody who's been

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Speaker 8: jaded towards hearing them. But a lot of times what

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Speaker 8: I think about when I hear overthink is basically looking

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Speaker 8: will Campbell's arm lengths? All right? Are you are you

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Speaker 8: but what did you look like on tape? Are you

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Speaker 8: how I look at it as just the I know

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Speaker 8: there are questions there that exist or that have popped

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Speaker 8: to the evaluation. But should they be trumping what we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to your point of me, like Ted McMillan, right

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Speaker 6: with the forty time with him, it looks plenty fast

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Speaker 6: when you watch him play, Like, to me, that's not

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Speaker 6: a prospect that you should overthink. I think Ted McMillan's

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Speaker 6: the best wide receiver in this draft class, and I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't move him there based on, oh, he didn't run

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Speaker 6: there's a couple of these prospects. To your point, Will

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Speaker 6: Campbell's another one good player, right, but there's been the

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Speaker 6: conversations he tackle?

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Speaker 4: Is he a guard? Bobby?

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Speaker 6: I heard you make the comment about Rashaun Slater. They

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Speaker 6: had that same conversation about with the arm length, the

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Speaker 6: gold Campbell's tape is pretty darn good. Now when he

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Speaker 6: plays against one guy from South Carolina that I throw

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Speaker 6: out is a not overthinking player, Kyle Canard.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Canard's a dude that is just absolutely productive.

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Speaker 6: And I think Kyle Canard is one of these guys

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Speaker 6: that's being slept on as an edge rusher and he's

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Speaker 6: ends up being one of the better pass rushers in

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Speaker 3: You say, what Ted McMillan and not overthinking tet Before

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Speaker 3: we get away from that well too much, there was

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Speaker 3: a video that did pop up this past weekend on

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Speaker 3: social media where he was talking about how he did

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Speaker 3: not like watching football and he did not like watching film.

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Speaker 3: Does something like that play a factor in to overthink

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Speaker 3: because again, it's a factor, like Bobby said, that's outside

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Speaker 3: of film, but it does have to do with the film, right.

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Speaker 4: Does that play a factor at all in the way

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Speaker 4: that you look at McMillan and the way that he

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Speaker 4: moves forward.

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Speaker 6: Well, you gotta find out does he is it? I

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Speaker 6: just don't like watching football, or do you not love football?

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Speaker 6: And I do think that that's an old video apparently

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Speaker 6: that has surfaced that a couple of years, several years ago,

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Speaker 6: so his mindset might have changed completely. And he didn't

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Speaker 6: say I don't necessarily hate watching film. He just does

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Speaker 6: it with the wide receiver group. He's not going to

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Speaker 6: go seek it out necessarily by himself. So you talk

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Speaker 6: about a guy that everything that I've been able to hear,

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Speaker 6: high character, comes to work every day. That's a dude

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Speaker 6: that hasn't given you any other problems off the field.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's an I don't love football. He

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Speaker 6: just doesn't like watching football. And if you look at

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Speaker 6: professionals across all sports, there's plenty that feel the same way.

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Speaker 5: See Michael Parsons, Yeah, See Michael Mary Cooper, Yeah, see

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Speaker 5: guys that you know. And this is a situation where

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Speaker 5: if Ted McMillan didn't like football and you're watching his tape,

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Speaker 5: you could tell that, yeah, you could tell. But but

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Speaker 5: when you watch him, and right now we've got the

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Speaker 5: highlights up of him just doing everything he can to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like he do, Hey, come.

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Speaker 7: Lamba has something to do with that. Right. If you're

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: There's some guys like huh, I can't believe you don't

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Speaker 8: Like what, I prefer somebody who does it that way. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that he's not putting the work though,

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Speaker 8: Because I don't know that there's a more naturally instinctive

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Speaker 4: All field, all freelances well. And he's a damn good

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Speaker 8: Lot of THEA you can be a really hard worker

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Speaker 5: It's hard to be that you can't play his position

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Speaker 6: I can't teach instincts. Yeah, you have the feel or

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Speaker 5: I Travis Hunder the receiver. Wow, Travis Hunter the receiver.

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Speaker 4: I put him on my board as a receiver.

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Speaker 7: Would you say that the cornerback Travis is better now,

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Speaker 5: I think he could do more damage to you as

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Speaker 5: But you watch him play down after down after down,

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Speaker 8: general how people feel about But I think there's a

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Speaker 8: growing group that views it the way Brian does, that

437
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Speaker 8: he'd be a better receiver. But ultimately I think most

438
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Speaker 8: teams would play him at corner, yeah, because they would

439
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Speaker 8: just say.

440
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Speaker 5: I know the Patriots are good play at wide receiver.

441
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Speaker 5: They're not gonna playm.

442
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Speaker 8: At Cleveland's talked about playing them at receiver.

443
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Speaker 5: But I fear as the Giants pick him at three,

444
00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 5: if you're a Cowboy fan, you.

445
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Speaker 6: Should fear that now you've got a hunter and neighbors

446
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Speaker 6: that could be very scary yeah, then you'll see.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, then they picked mill Road and drop the second

448
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 5: and away we go right, stop the run and the receiver.

449
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Speaker 8: That's be great. They couldn't complete a pass that would

450
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Speaker 8: be helpful old school football.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 7: Does this whole work hard thing matter more for the

453
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Speaker 7: later round guys than the super talented dudes, Like if

454
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Speaker 7: I got a second round guy he doesn't work hard,

455
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 7: he's more likely to be a buzzed like a super

456
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 7: talented you know, Travis hunt to type.

457
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Speaker 4: I think that goes back to what Zach was talking about.

458
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Speaker 3: You can't teach instincts, and a lot of times, if

459
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Speaker 3: you have instincts, you're gonna go early in the draft, right, Yeah,

460
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 3: because if you're not, you're getting knocked for certain elements,

461
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 3: pros and cons of your game. And that's when you

462
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Speaker 3: slide to the second, the third, the fourth round, and

463
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Speaker 3: then get into Day three. I think if you have

464
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Speaker 3: those instincts, and you have that and you can pair

465
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Speaker 3: it with the tape and the relentless studying, then all

466
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Speaker 3: of a sudden you have the perfect prospects. And those

467
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Speaker 3: are the guys that are very rare up at the

468
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Speaker 3: top of the draft that don't have those red flag.

469
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Speaker 5: I think guys like Perish from Kansas State. I think

470
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Speaker 5: Huzzy from North Carolinaup. I think who else had got

471
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Speaker 5: that Mohammed.

472
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Speaker 4: If you're undersized, you're already kind of working with something

473
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Speaker 4: a limiting go. Yeah, you better be studying.

474
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Speaker 5: You better be kind of figuring out how to do

475
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 5: things because you you're talented for your position, you're kind

476
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Speaker 5: of a specialist in some ways. But you better know

477
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Speaker 5: who you're playing against now.

478
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Speaker 6: Because you're gonna have to, you know, make the team

479
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 6: on special teams. Right, You're gonna have to put in

480
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 6: the extra effort. You're gonna have to be able to make sure, hey,

481
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 6: I can tackle, I'm coming in here. When you're one

482
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Speaker 6: of these premier athletes, there's a reason you're probably being

483
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Speaker 6: picked in the first round. Now, when it comes to

484
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Speaker 6: being good versus great, the guys that might want to

485
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 6: put in the extra time, they're gonna put in the

486
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Speaker 6: film work, They're gonna stay after and work the jugs

487
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Speaker 6: machine after practice. Maybe that sets you apart. Maybe that's

488
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Speaker 6: from a pro bowler. Now, I'm an all pro type

489
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Speaker 6: of guy. I'm a ten year old, decade team type

490
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Speaker 6: of player versus just being one of the best top

491
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Speaker 6: ten in my position. That that's where you can start

492
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Speaker 6: fight with the elite talent.

493
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Speaker 8: That's where Nate Newton has talked about before. Where he

494
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Speaker 8: found Margins was he he saw Troy Aikman work and

495
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Speaker 8: he went, I don't want to let him down. And

496
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Speaker 8: he's like, that was the biggest motivating factor he ever

497
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Speaker 8: had to work was Aikman and the way that he worked. Yeah,

498
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 8: and the way that then he was like, I can't

499
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Speaker 8: let this guy down. I can't let this guy's work

500
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Speaker 8: go for nothing. So I need to work. And he said,

501
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Speaker 8: Troy getting here and Troy showing his work ethic is

502
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Speaker 8: what made Nate from just you know, decent player for

503
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Speaker 8: seven eight years whatever was to one of the best

504
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Speaker 8: offensive linemen and football for six year run.

505
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Speaker 7: I was just thinking about Terror Steele, right, Like he

506
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 7: came from this offense where they throw the ball fifty times.

507
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Speaker 4: Yep.

508
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Speaker 7: But the coach said, oh, he work hard, you work hard,

509
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Speaker 7: and now he can run black his as he's a

510
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Speaker 7: run blocking offensive lineman. Now you know, I'm saying, brock

511
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Speaker 7: Hoff and we as much as I rolled my eyes

512
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Speaker 7: about up whole brock works hard. Oh, brock works.

513
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Speaker 6: But I think you just answered your own question because

514
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Speaker 6: those are undrafted free agent guys, right, That's what I'm saying,

515
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Speaker 6: that they got to work.

516
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Speaker 4: To get to where they're going.

517
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Speaker 7: Yeah, but we don't hear him saying about Tyler Smith.

518
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Speaker 7: And this ain't me saying Tyler Smith don't work hard.

519
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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith guy like God gifts. He just rolled out

520
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Speaker 7: the big whoopen focus is probably a little different and.

521
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Speaker 4: He may work just as hard. He probably worked just right.

522
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Speaker 3: Type of stuff is gonna not that's gonna come second

523
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Speaker 3: to you destroying guys at the line of scrimmage and

524
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Speaker 3: absolutely blocking half of the defense half the time.

525
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Speaker 8: But that is also the difference between Tyler Smith being

526
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Speaker 8: a second team All Pro and still waiting for Tyler

527
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Speaker 8: Smith to click. It is because Tyler Smith works. And

528
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Speaker 8: that's one of the things that the Cowboys worked on

529
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Speaker 8: in the process was they went, all right, we know

530
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Speaker 8: he's a good student, we know that he takes to coach,

531
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Speaker 8: and he's young. This will come into place. Whereas if

532
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Speaker 8: they didn't have that or he was into worker, you'd

533
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Speaker 8: probably be dealing with a lot more frustrating places from

534
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Speaker 8: Tyler Smith. Over the last three years.

535
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Speaker 5: Can I throw one more guy and that that. Don't

536
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Speaker 5: overthink my over just go and drafted one technique at twelve.

537
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Speaker 5: Is that what you exactly?

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Brian, get Dereck Harmon.

539
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Speaker 5: Don't overthink Baron, Baron, don't over don't overthink Texas Corner.

540
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Speaker 4: I like that.

541
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Speaker 7: Jean Lewison take it. He's been he's been a little

542
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Speaker 7: guy here for eight years old.

543
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Speaker 5: Don't overthink that play. Please, don't over think that.

544
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Speaker 3: Any other names that you guys have out there that

545
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Speaker 3: you don't want to overthink.

546
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Speaker 8: Jalen Walker, like in terms of just I know you

547
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Speaker 8: can't figure out what to do with him necessarily. A

548
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Speaker 8: lot of I know exactly what, Yeah, you know, but

549
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Speaker 8: there's people who feel like he's tweener or whatever, like

550
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Speaker 8: you know, position list. Figure you'll figure something out. He's

551
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 8: a good player, You'll figure something out. So don't let

552
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Speaker 8: that paralyze that worry you.

553
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Speaker 5: Though, when when guys remember the guy Simmons that was

554
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Speaker 5: that clem has bounced around a little bit.

555
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Speaker 4: Does it were you that a guy like that? Though?

556
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just talking about we don't know what position.

557
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Speaker 8: Shack of all trades means.

558
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Speaker 5: We're not a linebacker in safety and then they don't

559
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Speaker 5: play him either.

560
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Speaker 8: One in these Yeah, Jabrill Peppers ran into that for

561
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Speaker 8: for a long time. But I mean that you for

562
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 8: all those that you have, you also then have like

563
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Speaker 8: Shaq Thompson who turns into a good football player. And

564
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Speaker 8: so to me, I think Walker is just one of

565
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Speaker 8: those where he's going to be a good football player.

566
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Speaker 8: And I think that you shouldn't overthink him too much,

567
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Speaker 8: don't prioritize him over a Travis Hunter or somebody else.

568
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Speaker 8: Just genty for me, But you know, I think that

569
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Speaker 8: Walker is one that I wouldn't want to overthink too much.

570
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Speaker 8: And then I think one of the other ones that

571
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Speaker 8: stands out for me. And I don't know how much

572
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Speaker 8: other people are. We already mentioned McMillan. One of their

573
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Speaker 8: names are wrote down. Is because I have seen some

574
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Speaker 8: people talk about like they just don't trusted Buka's speed

575
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Speaker 8: and he's won that right now. That is I told

576
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Speaker 8: you this, Zach, that the guy.

577
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Speaker 4: He reminds me of the rest of us.

578
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean we're on the phone, we're talking about

579
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Speaker 8: player comps. The guy he reminds me of. Honestly, when

580
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 8: I went back and looked at my notes and everything else.

581
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Speaker 8: It's Cooper Cup. That's who he reminds me of. And

582
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 8: I think he's got better speed than Cooper Cup. But

583
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 8: the type of player he is, the way he tracks

584
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Speaker 8: the ball down the field, the way that he works

585
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 8: in zone, the way that he is, you know, slot specific,

586
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 8: the type of build that he has, that is who

587
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 8: he reminds me of to a great extent. Is Cup

588
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 8: coming out of Eastern Wall?

589
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Speaker 5: Is he a first round player in any other draft?

590
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 9: No?

591
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Speaker 8: I mean I have him top of the second.

592
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Speaker 5: I don't even have okay, because I know you you

593
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Speaker 5: had you have first, right first for them the first,

594
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Speaker 5: but you have Golden above him, right, Okay, But in

595
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Speaker 5: any other draft, I take Bobby out of this because

596
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Speaker 5: he's actually going We'll see if he's right last year's class, now,

597
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 5: last year's class, any class, any last three classes.

598
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Speaker 4: Probably not no, probably not right? No?

599
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: No, okay, would you No? I'm just saying, I think

600
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Speaker 5: to me, because he is the last guy. I mean,

601
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Speaker 5: if I've got fifteen players, and he's likely either fourteen

602
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: or fifteen when I stacked.

603
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Speaker 6: But heck, we had Alad McConaughey going around two last year,

604
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Speaker 6: and that dude, Oh no, I mean so he I think,

605
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Speaker 6: no matter.

606
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Speaker 4: What people would have been a really good player. But yeah,

607
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, no doubt fifth that.

608
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Speaker 6: The other one that I threw out there is Donovan

609
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Speaker 6: Jackson out of Ohio State, and we've talked about a

610
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Speaker 6: lot of guards. Donovan Jackson to me, I ended up

611
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Speaker 6: putting him as my last fifteenth first round grade. I

612
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 6: just think he's a stuff. I think he's gonna end

613
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Speaker 6: up being a really take Booker over Booker. Yeah, I

614
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Speaker 6: just I just think he's a ten year player that's

615
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 6: going to be really, really good. He's got better feet

616
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 6: than Booker does. He can also move people off the

617
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. He's not quite the maller. He's doesn't

618
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Speaker 6: have quite the power that Booker does. But I was

619
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Speaker 6: so impressed with his ability to kick outside play left

620
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Speaker 6: tackle during that championship run for Ohio State. Kind of

621
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Speaker 6: gave me Joe Tooney vibes, right, who's been an excellent

622
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Speaker 6: guard his entire career. Then in a pinch, he's got

623
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Speaker 6: a kick out the left tackle and until the Super

624
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Speaker 6: Bowl he's not getting his ass totally kicked. So to me,

625
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Speaker 6: I love Donovan Jackson. I think he's he's the guy

626
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Speaker 6: that is going to be a good.

627
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Speaker 4: Pro no matter what's standing up on the table right there. No,

628
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Speaker 4: I like it.

629
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Speaker 7: He can stand out to light. But he said the

630
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 7: right thing. He's not as powerful as but not powerful. Okay, cool,

631
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 7: I'll con see that anything.

632
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Speaker 4: I think his game overall, I like a little more.

633
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: You like who you like.

634
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 7: That's cool, look a better, but you like who you like.

635
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 7: I love Donovan too, though Donovan is a dude, and

636
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 7: I love that football thing where you go, I'll play

637
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 7: left tackle the car he.

638
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: Just stood left tackle.

639
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 7: Booker can't play left tackle. But if I'm drafting the guard,

640
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 7: that don't matter to me, because you do that same

641
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 7: thing with with the Banks. You'll go, oh, Banks is

642
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 7: a guard, and then you'll go, but I got tackle tackle.

643
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 7: But you will say, let men, may I finishing something

644
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 7: something I didn't know because you were on the internet.

645
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 7: You say, well, I'll put Banks at guard, and then

646
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 7: I'll ask you, well, is Banks are better guard than Booker?

647
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 7: And you will bring up Banks playing tackle, just like

648
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 7: you will do with with Donovan. If I'm just looking

649
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 7: for a guard, I think personally, Booker is a better

650
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 7: guard than both of them.

651
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 5: I hate position flexibility.

652
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: You know that.

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Speaker 7: Oh well you well, we shouldn't be talking about uh

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Speaker 7: uh Banks playing guard or.

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Speaker 4: And you're sticking.

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Speaker 7: You must just change your mind on that because you've

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Speaker 7: be saying Banks at guard for a while.

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Speaker 5: No, I absolutely changed my mind on that.

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Speaker 7: Why you act like you? Why you act like you

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Speaker 7: have no clue what I'm talking about? You had him

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Speaker 7: at goal?

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Speaker 4: I absolutely no, No, I just flip flopped down.

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Speaker 5: So the consideration of him, I sure, I personally I don't.

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about and play in either spot.

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Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I take that too. Lay

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Speaker 7: film when is good exactly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got to take our first break when

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Speaker 3: we come back. We got some Twitter on the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Maybe one of these guys has Banks.

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Speaker 4: At a tackle or at a guard.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what they think overall, but send it your

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Speaker 3: Of course, we'll be on the air an hour before

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Speaker 3: each of the first picks along the way, and we're

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Speaker 4: It is a great weekend you got to think about.

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Speaker 4: So Saturday is when we got to get the breakfast tacos.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, at the breakfast tacos. Well, I'll take care of that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it needs to be a rookie thing.

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Speaker 5: Now we're a rookie veteran.

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Speaker 7: Tom the Tommy and Hazen. Don't bother me, y'all.

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Speaker 8: Tommy's driving fifty miles away. I'm not drinking. I'm not

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Speaker 8: eating cold breakfast burritos from Tommy.

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Speaker 4: So we could get him over here.

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Speaker 7: That's so far.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, Yeah, him and Nick a far.

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Speaker 5: this jersey about the third day. What I really like

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Speaker 5: about the third day because I think that it's really

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Speaker 5: kind of where you can dig in on some guys.

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Speaker 5: It's something that's we're tuning in that hour before the

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Speaker 5: actual draft. Yes, we have that opportunity, and thanks to

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Speaker 5: Roxanne and Chris, those guys in the back of them

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Speaker 5: grabbing coaches and scouts and stuff, and man, you get

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Speaker 5: some super insight of some of the picks that were

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Speaker 5: made you know, earlier, and then maybe kind of sets

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Speaker 5: you up for what's going to happen in day three.

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Speaker 5: So courage you all three days to watch. But man,

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Speaker 5: day three, that hour before it's one of my favorite

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Speaker 5: times to kind of get an insight of what they

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Speaker 5: were thinking when they were picking these players.

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Speaker 4: That might be the most informational hour of radio.

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Speaker 14: You could ask, Oh no, I mean, it really is

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Speaker 14: a lot of fun, like getting to talk with Chris

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Speaker 14: Vaughan Ross Whinch, like all the scouts are they're awesome,

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Speaker 14: and then the position coaches like Londa Wells comes.

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Speaker 4: In just ripping with swag. We're the cowboy hat.

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Speaker 6: And then it's awesome when you get the position coach

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Speaker 6: and they've drafted somebody in that position group and you

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Speaker 6: kind of get a feel for like what is the vision,

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Speaker 6: what's playing?

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Speaker 3: Well a lot of times you get the story too,

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Speaker 3: why they were the track, why you end up doing that.

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Speaker 4: But it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: It really really super informative and and I mean I

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Speaker 3: think we're like three years in a row running where

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Speaker 3: we've made like a documentary from those clips, Like not

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Speaker 3: us making the documentary, but like those clips have been

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Speaker 3: used in some documents.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome across the board because it's it is.

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Speaker 3: It's an informational uh vast majority of that hour and

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: All right, sign out for some Twitter on the Twitter now,

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Speaker 4: I got a.

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Speaker 7: Question, Oh my gosh, you can't take over water. On

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Speaker 7: the twenty me and Woodchuck was talking as I'm taking

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Speaker 7: over Twitter.

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Speaker 5: On becoming and was just talking Derek Eagleton watching this

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Speaker 5: right now, I hope back.

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Speaker 7: Listen, Well, we're all watching film and evaluating players, right

786
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Speaker 7: and me and Brod has mentioned this for one week

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Speaker 7: and we just didn't bring it back up.

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Speaker 15: Uh huh.

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Speaker 7: When a players played football for like five or six

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Speaker 7: years and they only got one good year or like, damn,

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Speaker 7: you been playing football and you still can't contain, You

792
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Speaker 7: still can't do X y Z. They still get you on.

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Speaker 4: That, all these COVID guys.

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Speaker 7: How do you account for that when you're breaking down

795
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Speaker 7: these guys, perfect example, Kara prinslely oh mam and yelling

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Speaker 7: he almost got it, boy, he been he been playing

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Speaker 7: football for a minute. Yeah, played in Florida and came

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Speaker 7: on the old miss and they still take him off

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Speaker 7: the field on rundowns and he's a great pass rusher,

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Speaker 7: but they still don't trust him to do the fundamental

801
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Speaker 7: football stuff. Right, But you've been playing for so long.

802
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Speaker 7: What have you been doing some of those years?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: So maybe just in the back of my mind we

805
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Speaker 7: just talked about overthinking, maybe that accounts for something when

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Speaker 7: I'm moving up and down on board.

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Speaker 3: No, it does, and I think the COVID years added

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Speaker 3: an extra element into that, right, A lot of these

809
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Speaker 3: guys and this is probably the end of thank god,

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Speaker 3: but it adds an extra thing to where you've been

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Speaker 3: in the in the college ranks for how long. I

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Speaker 3: mean there are some guys. I mean you mentioned de Royo.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a player for me. It's like Darri Porter,

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Speaker 3: the corner from Iowa State, Like, that's you guy. Now

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Speaker 3: he converted from wide receiver to corner and he's the

816
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Speaker 3: guy that I'm seeing is like a day two pick.

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Speaker 3: His measurables are there for him, but he's essentially like

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Speaker 3: a glorified special teams player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but a lot of that's really what he was.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times we're quick to dismiss and Brian

821
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Speaker 3: brings it up every once in a while, but we're

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Speaker 3: quick to dismiss the transfer portal and how these guys

823
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Speaker 3: bounce from one school next because it's just the norm now, right.

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Speaker 4: I think the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Can be said for these extra years of eligibility and

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Speaker 3: along the way.

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Speaker 4: You just got to have to keep it in the

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Speaker 4: back of your head when you're evaluating these.

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Speaker 5: Would you consider that? And I know you and I've

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Speaker 5: had this discussion about Shuck. So the quarterback, why is

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Speaker 5: he still doing that?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 7: Says he's doing you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, seven years, a couple of broken collar bones, broken

835
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Speaker 5: femur along the way, you know. I mean, is it

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Speaker 5: is that seven years good for him? Are bad for him?

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Speaker 7: I think ultimately is gonna be bad form I think

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Speaker 7: it's going to impact him negatively. But I think some

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Speaker 7: team is gonna look at traits and they're gonna look

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Speaker 7: at the idea that we don't know what the hell

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Speaker 7: we're doing with quarterback in the first place. And he

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Speaker 7: does at gamble on him. But but you know, but

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Speaker 7: with his traits though, some team would be like, oh,

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Speaker 7: that's a second those a second round.

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Speaker 4: He's the prototype.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, but he thought the box to the

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Speaker 7: other team for no reason. Yeah, and that'll be the

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Speaker 7: reason why he'll probably be the Day three guy. So

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Speaker 7: is its me something?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 8: Day three?

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Speaker 3: It's eleven thirty six. We're gonna get to twitter on

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Speaker 3: the sorry fotch on the twenty all right, everybody twenty

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Speaker 3: Cowboys buzz on Twitter?

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Speaker 4: Once?

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Speaker 5: Another name one player we could see at twelve that's

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Speaker 5: not considered a top position of need, keeping that.

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Speaker 4: Player or best player?

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Speaker 5: What everybody wants to draft a tight end.

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Speaker 6: As a conversation, whys quarterback out of Colorado?

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Speaker 4: Quarterback's not a position in need? R it is? You

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Speaker 4: got Dak Prescott. I think you did today.

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Speaker 6: I think every other position you could say is of need.

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Speaker 6: But if Shador Sanders is there at twelve. I think

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Speaker 6: you've got to have that conversation, and I would take it.

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Speaker 8: What's player?

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Speaker 4: Whoa whoa?

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Speaker 12: Whoa?

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Speaker 15: Whoa?

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Speaker 4: What what was that last part?

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Speaker 6: I would I would take him, Sorry, Bobby, I would

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Speaker 6: take him.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, what's the quarterback Cowboys?

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 8: This is this, uh, this specific question. We're talking about

875
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 8: a player that could be there one one we think

876
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 8: they realistically could take because they're not taking.

877
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: It or I don't think it's well but either jerial stance.

878
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 8: So we're so we're talking about players we think they

879
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 8: could realistically take who are not considered a position. Correct, Yes,

880
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 8: Tyler Warren, That's.

881
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: What I just said.

882
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's tight end.

883
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 5: I mean I get more, I get more likely Fergie's

884
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 5: not any good and you know, Bergie struggled with some

885
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: He's a good player, he's a good player.

886
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, struggled last year, my guy.

887
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like back to quick, I feel

888
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: like Mason Taylor. If you need to take a tight end,

889
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: look take him Mason Taylor.

890
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 8: But definitely take Mason.

891
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I.

892
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: Think to be the you know what, Bobby, huh, forty

893
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: four of them's got a great family.

894
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: Jason Taylor does a lot of stuff in the community,

895
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: Thomas see you, and this doesn't work from five thirty

896
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: to two.

897
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: But no, I I think I can say I everybody's

898
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: about drafting Warren at twelve, and I you know, I

899
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: like Warnt, but man, there's just and it answers the

900
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: question because yeah, you would, that's a position that he

901
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 5: would probably take, But you don't need I don't.

902
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 8: Think here's the problem. What don't they need right now?

903
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

904
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 6: I think you could argue like every spot, except they

905
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 6: do have a quarterback on their contract.

906
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: That's why I just went through out your door.

907
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 8: So I have a quarterback and they have.

908
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: They might tell you that, they might tell you they

909
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: don't need a safety, but even though they're bringing even

910
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: they're bringing one in.

911
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: But is there a safety available at twelve that you

912
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: would take? I mean, would you go up the twelve? No,

913
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: I'm just saying just saying a position. Sure it is

914
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: this saying a position.

915
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 7: But the Cowboys needing everything is the reason why I

916
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 7: wouldn't draft Warn. I think tight end is just so luxury.

917
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I can't pass on a

918
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 7: great edge or a wide receiver or a corner for

919
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 7: a tight end, is it. I mostly feel like quarterbacks

920
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: elevate tight ends anyway, you know, like your tight end

921
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 7: is kind of sort of what your quarterback is. Sometimes,

922
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 7: you know, Bottles can elevate the raiders or whatever. He's special.

923
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 7: For the most part, a nonsense tight end can be

924
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 7: elevated by a great quarterback. I think Jake Ferguson. I

925
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 7: ain't saying he's nonsense guy, but he's been elevated by force.

926
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 7: I think as long as you got four, you have

927
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 7: a tight end. But just because you got four don't

928
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 7: mean you got right guard or age or wire receiver

929
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 7: two or Quanta two.

930
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: And remember the connection that Ferguson and Dak had had

931
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: when they were both healthy for an entire season.

932
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: I agree.

933
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: I think Tyler Warren's the first round player. I think

934
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: he's a great prospect at twelve. I think there are

935
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: other needs, I really do, And that's kind of where

936
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: I'm at now.

937
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: I want to circle about three technique that's all day,

938
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: every day.

939
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a need though, wouldn't it be well,

940
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: I guess you have and Thomas right, Yeah, that would fit,

941
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: that would fit.

942
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 8: That yeah, I just I wouldn't take one. What I'm saying, yeah, I.

943
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 6: Would Nolan then at twelve probably, and now I could

944
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: see them maybe taking Walterland, but I'd rather go like

945
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: Derek Harrimon or Kenneth Grant, like one of the one texts.

946
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 4: I agree. I'm just saying that three.

947
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 7: But you're right, Yeah, I would just take Mason Graham

948
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 7: playing at one text sometimes and Solomon Thomas would just

949
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 7: cease to exist from you, or just put him at

950
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 7: five or something you like, if you have an opportunity

951
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: to check Mason, if you just get.

952
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 6: Them, hey, maybe you move up and go get Mason Graham.

953
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 6: You do a lot straight up.

954
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: You're trying to drafts all of our draft capital the

955
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: Draft Show.

956
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: I'm trying to throw out some hubbing the water.

957
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what it is. I said this on the fan

958
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 3: actually this past weekend. But the the thought process around

959
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: Jerry having a conversation when Shador is there at twelve,

960
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: if he had a.

961
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: Conversation for Johnny Manziel the.

962
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Way, if Sanders is there, absolutely will No.

963
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 8: I'm just saying sure, yeah, they'll talk like I mean,

964
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 8: just like they talk. Don't think it'll happen Yeah, I'm calling.

965
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 4: Bobby.

966
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: You think they would have Sanders over Ward.

967
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 8: M oh Man, I know most of the league does.

968
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: I don't know.

969
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 8: In fact, I know that there's a lot of people

970
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 8: in the league who have Dart above Sanders and have

971
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 8: Shuck over Sanders, and so I mean there's a lot

972
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 8: more split opinions on Shudor. I feel like I just

973
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 8: I think that they will probably end up having Ward higher,

974
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 8: is what I would guess. But obviously Ward's not gonna

975
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 8: be there. He's gonna be the first quarterback off the board.

976
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

977
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: John wants to know if the Cowboys were guaranteed to

978
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: take a wide receiver in the second round. Sitting there

979
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: at forty four, who would be the best fit for

980
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: this team at wide.

981
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: Receiver at forty four?

982
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: Trey Harris best fit, Trey Harris's best you should make

983
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 6: a case for I'd go Trey Harris at ole Miss.

984
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: I've got him a little higher than Besh and I

985
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 6: think he compliments Cede Lamb well. He does a little

986
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: bit of different things than what CD, but we're.

987
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: Thinking the same type.

988
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 6: Right, Edgig, bigger body and bes Besch would be my

989
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 6: second option to Trey Harris. There because I've got Jalen

990
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 6: Royal Sandwich right in between them and my stack.

991
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: But Royle is a little bit of a smaller player, see,

992
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: but you can put that rot and be okay.

993
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 6: No roy and Royal's He reminds me a lot of

994
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: Steve Smith. I mean he's a thick build, explosive and

995
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 6: in the open field. Uh, you can do a lot

996
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 6: with him. He can play on the outside more than

997
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 6: some of these other smaller slot guys. But Trey harry Man,

998
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: I think he'd be a great compliment to see thee Lamb.

999
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: Physically, Hairs may be more impressive, but I think Besh

1000
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 7: and his route running in his feel, I think that's

1001
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 7: going to translate to deck a little bit better. That's

1002
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 7: just you know, that's just you know how from the

1003
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: Dallas connection and and oh we love a good story, Bobby.

1004
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 8: Come on, man, you got the family ties.

1005
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 7: Even though I got Besch higher, I got a two

1006
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 7: on Besh and a three on on Hairs. I just

1007
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 7: think Besh fits a.

1008
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 6: Little better well on Heck, Besha does have l s

1009
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 6: U wide receiver history, and we as a freshman, we

1010
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 6: know how the LSU wide receivers.

1011
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna fight it. You think I think

1012
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: I should.

1013
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: They're not looking at the big receiver opposite because of Mingo.

1014
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 7: I hope that ain't.

1015
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 4: Do you think they're they're looking away from it?

1016
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: You mean they're they're thinking that Mingo is their ex

1017
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 5: and they're gonna find somebody similar to.

1018
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: How Lamb plays. If I had the slot player.

1019
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 7: If I had to guess, the only guys that they're

1020
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 7: really accounting for is Lamb and Turping. If I had

1021
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 7: to guess, because tur just got money. But I would

1022
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 7: be gravely upset that they see, all right, we just

1023
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 7: going to lean into Mingo as big and maybe we'll

1024
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 7: get a depth piece of.

1025
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: Goal backup plan.

1026
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: Anybody want to bet lunch that that's when they get

1027
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: up there and talk, that's going to be the case

1028
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 5: that they're going to talk about Mingo When somebody asked

1029
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: a question about receiver, Mingo is going to be the

1030
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 5: first name out of their mouth.

1031
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: I think I would.

1032
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: I would agree with you, because especially this front office,

1033
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: they believe Mingo can be a guy.

1034
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: Uh.

1035
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: They traded a fourth round pick for him. I don't

1036
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 4: think they've given up on him yet.

1037
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 8: I'm I'm playing CD in the slot so often that

1038
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 8: I don't think you have like a you know, permanent

1039
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 8: X or Z, and so I'm not necessarily like gung

1040
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 8: ho about like I need to go get the bigger body,

1041
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 8: the guy. I would get his Jalen Dole. That's why

1042
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 8: I'd go get in the second Jalen Dole.

1043
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: We argued about him last week. I'm a fan. I

1044
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: think he's the better of.

1045
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 8: The time if you want to talk about again checking

1046
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 8: every box that Brian Schottenheim was talking about in terms

1047
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 8: of establishing culture here, that's the guy. But like like

1048
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 8: I think when you look at the tape now, there's

1049
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 8: obviously he's available in the second round for a reason.

1050
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: There's there's stuff I think with his routefficient see and

1051
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 8: some of the Polish it's not great. But I think

1052
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 8: the the traits are off the charts. I think the

1053
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 8: work ethic is really really high. You know. I was

1054
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 8: talking to Brent Callaway in Indianapolis who runs EXOS, and

1055
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 8: he was talking about Jalen and he said, he's the

1056
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 8: valedictorian of our performance program this year. That dude is

1057
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 8: always the first up, that he's an hour there's they're

1058
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 8: an hour before the workouts start. He is the one

1059
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 8: holding everybody accountable. He's the one saying, you know, lifting

1060
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 8: up the workouts. He is as hard a worker as

1061
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 8: I've ever had. I mean, he's somebody who I think

1062
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 8: everything you hear, he checks a ton of boxes for them.

1063
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 7: So Brian Mingo may keep them from going wide receiver

1064
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 7: in day two, there's no way that keeps them from

1065
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 7: looking at a wide receiver at twelve overall.

1066
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: Is no See, that's the question I'm asking, That's the quest.

1067
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I I think they would take McMillan.

1068
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I would hope.

1069
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 5: I would think we Why.

1070
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 7: Do we have that? That's what I'm saying, Why do

1071
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 7: we have? Why is this a coin?

1072
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: Flip?

1073
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 7: Wise?

1074
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Because they're multiple needs. It goes back to the conversation

1075
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: we just had. What don't they need at twelve?

1076
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: There's never gonna try to sell.

1077
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 7: There's never a world they should sell. Me mean, oh yeah,

1078
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 7: we look, we passed the home and look, Mengo is

1079
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 7: the best player on our board. If we put, if

1080
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 7: we put.

1081
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: They told they told me to say a top of

1082
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: the second round.

1083
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 7: Guy, they will say that to us. I'm just hoping

1084
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 7: that they don't look at McMillan and go, oh, well,

1085
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 7: we're gonna go with the corner that Brian doesn't like because.

1086
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: We got me Johnson.

1087
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, that's a realistic scenario.

1088
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I'd be sick.

1089
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we got to take our second break.

1090
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: When we come back. I've got some tell me more names.

1091
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Speaker 3: I'll start with you on this one. I want to

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Speaker 3: hear about Jamari Harris corner from Iowa.

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00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jamari Harris. Let me get to Jamori Harrison. He

1153
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: is the starting left corner for the Hawkeyes and he

1154
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 5: plays a ton of zone coverage. He's got length, He's

1155
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 5: a smooth player. There's a Twitter cheat element to his game.

1156
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: The reactions to his ability to read the routes and

1157
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: stuff like that. He could run the route at times

1158
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: better than the receiver and coverage. You think he's guessing,

1159
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 5: but he really really isn't.

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00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 4: He sees the.

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00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 5: Development of the play, he's on top of it, and

1162
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: the ball skills are outstanding. He's in position for overthrows.

1163
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: There's just when quarterbacks tend to be reckless with the ball.

1164
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 5: This guy is kind of in that spot. I will

1165
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: say this though. You know you have to be able

1166
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 5: to understand this guy plays sideways a lot and then

1167
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 5: he adjust his route ass or he adjust his coverage

1168
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 5: as the route comes off. He he only has adequate

1169
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 5: top end speed. He really really does. Smith by Ohio

1170
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 5: State just ran right by him, and Smith runs by

1171
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people.

1172
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Speaker 4: But you know, you've you've.

1173
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 5: Got to understand that this guy is really a zone player.

1174
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 5: He'll need some work as a man cover guy. If

1175
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: your scheme is really really zone heavy, this is your

1176
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: guy because he thrives playing this way six one, one

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: ninety one and uh. But man, he will compete in

1178
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 5: the tackling aspect of it. And but like you say,

1179
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 5: it's it's really about being able to read and react,

1180
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 5: and that's what he does pretty well in his own coverage.

1181
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 6: And he's also one of these older guys. He's gonna

1182
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 6: be twenty five in September. N he's a six year guy. Yeah,

1183
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 6: he started twenty seven games. But you're right, Like the

1184
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 6: double moves that can get him and you can pick

1185
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 6: on him underneath. Now he'll come up and tackle. But

1186
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 6: when he's playing off, that's what you'll see a lot

1187
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Speaker 6: of teams. They're just gonna get the ball out quick

1188
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 6: to him. Now he's got to come up and make

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Speaker 6: the play.

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Speaker 4: It's always a little late too, Yeah, a little bit late.

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Speaker 6: But he'll try and bait quarterbacks like you're right, Like

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Speaker 6: he is very instinctive looking and king on the quarterback,

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Speaker 6: reading the eyes and then he'll come up there. I mean,

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Speaker 6: tremendous ball skills and the arm length is there to

1195
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 6: be able to come in and strike as soon as

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Speaker 6: the ball lands. So he is an intriguing day three

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Speaker 6: option if you don't land a cornerback in day one

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Speaker 6: or two.

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Speaker 8: He's instinctive. The awareness is really good. One hundred percent

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Speaker 8: agree with everything Bright said about zone specific A guy

1201
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Speaker 8: who the top ends isn't there. The guy here reminded

1202
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Speaker 8: me of somebody here in Dallas who didn't play a time,

1203
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 8: but similar player coming out and some of the stuff

1204
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 8: we started in training camp. He reminds me a lot

1205
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Speaker 8: of Donovan Alumba when he was here. The same sort

1206
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 8: of like bigger guy, bigger build, without top end speed.

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Speaker 4: You probably just kill him.

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Speaker 8: In your eyes, he is Donovan Alumba. It's like I

1209
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Speaker 8: would have given donnov An Alumba more of a shot.

1210
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Speaker 8: I thought he was a good player, but zone specific,

1211
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Speaker 8: you're not do not. I would not throw him out

1212
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Speaker 8: there to play man coverage.

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Speaker 3: And it was the Comeback Player of the Year honoree

1214
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Speaker 3: for IOWA in twenty twenty three.

1215
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Speaker 4: Suffered some injury in twenty twenty He.

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Speaker 6: Also got suspended two games for gambling. Did he at Iowa? Yeah,

1217
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 6: he was cutting a little.

1218
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Speaker 4: I mean who hasn't. But hey, that's fine with me.

1219
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: Playing a little over under with you.

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Speaker 7: That might have been more or less like gambling gamble.

1221
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 7: He was like shooting dice zone.

1222
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Speaker 4: No, I think it was like gambling. O.

1223
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess taking the unders on IOWA offense like

1224
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Speaker 8: everybody else.

1225
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Speaker 3: Daily Fantasy man get in all that? Why not yet, players,

1226
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of reason do not get in on it.

1227
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Don't do that bad idea? All right, next one up,

1228
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: don't do bad idea. I forget me on the name pronunciation.

1229
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up as you as you guys

1230
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: give it. But Jay Tuya or Toya Toya.

1231
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: From is it Toya?

1232
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 8: I thought it was Toya?

1233
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: Is it Toya Toy? We'll go with Toya from UCLA

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00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman. Who's got him?

1235
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: I'll take it.

1236
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, massive noseman for the Bruins. He comes from a

1237
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 5: family of athletes, sure brothers, and he had a brother

1238
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 5: NFL player college players. This is a rugby family too,

1239
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: so if this he maybe has some little Jordan mile

1240
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 5: Lotta in his.

1241
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: In his blood.

1242
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: But he is from Tonga and and uh he has

1243
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: been a three year starter.

1244
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: There's some initial quickness.

1245
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 5: This guy six two three and forty two pounds, he

1246
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 5: could be a load to deal with inside. His first

1247
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: initial contact is pretty powerful and you kind of see

1248
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 5: blockers getting knocked back a little bit. And I thought

1249
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: the power and strenk was good. He's not a long

1250
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 5: arm guy, so he's just kind of there trying to

1251
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: eat up space in the way that he plays. His

1252
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 5: movement's not poor for his size, but you see him

1253
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: play down the line and up the field with chasing.

1254
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 7: Uh.

1255
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: He's got that nose tackle thickness to him. Will battle

1256
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 5: all kinds of blocks and he can cause problems as

1257
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: a pass rus or just on the penetration.

1258
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: Part of it.

1259
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 5: But if he has to start, stop then restart, he's

1260
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: likely going to get stuck along the line of scrimmage,

1261
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: and uh, I think that, you know, he has to

1262
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 5: keep moving in order to have a chance to make

1263
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 5: the play. Teams that run wide on him tend to

1264
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 5: give him more problems because he just can't get all

1265
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: the way to the outside there. So he's only had

1266
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 5: two sacks and three seasons, and so he needs to

1267
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 5: play in a technique where he could be a head

1268
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 5: up nose or just that one technique, but he will

1269
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 5: surprise you with his athletic ability.

1270
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: Is that the way an NFL team would look at

1271
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: him is if they're looking at him as a one

1272
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: tech and a guy that maybe could be a late day.

1273
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 5: Three rotation mids, I'd absolutely look at Yeah, there's several

1274
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 5: times you watch him play. I mean in the USC game,

1275
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: the Washing game, I mean, he's like head up nose

1276
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 5: and you know he's he's controlled. Those guys have a

1277
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 5: hard time moving him in ways. But I could say

1278
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 5: he's kind of he's his when he could go forward,

1279
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 5: he's really good. When he gets that momentum, he's hard

1280
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: to stop. But as I mentioned, start, stop, then restart,

1281
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: he's balls out. He's just gonna He kind of gets

1282
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 5: he kind of gets caught up along the line of scrimmage.

1283
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 4: He moves pretty well for his size in the hustle

1284
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: and FX there.

1285
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 6: I mean, he ends up getting rewarded on some hustle

1286
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 6: plays by circling back and making a sack or or

1287
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: or a tackle against the run. And he shows some

1288
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 6: good awareness against the screens, able to sniff out a

1289
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 6: screen in the Iowa game. That was pretty darn impressive.

1290
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: I liked him. I liked him quite a bit as

1291
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: a Day three option.

1292
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: So I have found his pronunciation on the UCLA's athletic website.

1293
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: Heard Toya Toya Toya. There's three remember Saki, Siaka, Ika,

1294
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: brother Lash. Yeah they're related. Yeah, are they really? Yeah?

1295
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, Toya is how you say his

1296
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: last name? But uh, but Votch, did you have anything

1297
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: on Toya?

1298
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 13: No?

1299
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Speaker 7: I mean I haven't seen him. He was way at

1300
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 7: the bottom my list, man, my bed, I know.

1301
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 3: You've seen Kevin what Winston, junior safety from sten State.

1302
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: Tell me about him.

1303
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 7: First thing. I want to, you know, look at when

1304
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 7: I see when I see these safeties, free safeties, I

1305
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 7: want to know ken they tackle and keviv Kevin went

1306
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 7: Kelvin Kevin Kevin Kevin Winston is a tackling fool, and

1307
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 7: I just stand up and clap every time I see

1308
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 7: him do it. But he's also a really good cover guy.

1309
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 7: You know, where there's one high too high, it's probably

1310
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 7: gonna be more of a too high kind of dude.

1311
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 7: I don't think he has the range to go from

1312
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 7: from one side of the field to the other numbers

1313
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 7: or whatnot. But I think just as a rangey dude,

1314
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: you know, high safety on the roof gy tackle. I

1315
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 7: think he's pretty good. I seen him walk him down

1316
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 7: sometimes they're walking down a strong I like him more

1317
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: back as a support tackle dude, you know what I'm saying.

1318
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 7: But as a as a covering free sometimes tackling dude,

1319
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 7: I love him.

1320
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 6: He's an energy type of player, dude. He kind of

1321
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 6: kind of gives me like a little Earl Thomas vibes

1322
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 6: when you watch him. He's just a much bigger player

1323
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 6: than where Earl was and only one year of starting experience.

1324
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 6: But he can play all over the secondary. He he's

1325
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: got range, he can cover the slot, deep freeze you

1326
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: mentioned their vatch, can also play in the box. Consistent tackler,

1327
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 6: short area of quickness, explosiveness to make plays in space.

1328
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

1329
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 6: The only negative really is he can be a little

1330
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 6: over aggressive, like he might He might just over pursue

1331
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 6: because he comes in like a Tasmanian devil overruns a play.

1332
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 6: But Kevin Winston Junior I was a huge fan, just

1333
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 6: was injured Week two of last season in practice, missed

1334
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 6: the whole season. So there's some injury background that you've

1335
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 6: got to kind of figure out with him. But a

1336
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 6: team captain, he's one of these, say another one of

1337
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 6: these safeties that can be a big time improvement for

1338
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 6: you have second round.

1339
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, got the second that's yeah.

1340
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: And coming off of an injury like that, Like you said,

1341
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: it was a partially torn ACL. It's the season suffered

1342
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 3: again against Bowling Green. We were watching Fan and Junior

1343
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: the tight end, and he was going up against them

1344
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: for a little bit.

1345
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we ended up getting hurt. Uh, that's a high

1346
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 4: that's a high IQ player.

1347
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 8: By the way, I gotta watch him back, I guess

1348
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 8: because I watched him Luwaga and I did not see

1349
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 8: I did not see free at all. I think it's

1350
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 8: the best we're gonna talk about here. But that's a

1351
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 8: strong exclusive to me, that is a strong safety. Play

1352
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 8: him downhill, do not have him in coverage, is what

1353
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 8: I saw.

1354
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, great athletic build, sure tackler closing speed showed on

1355
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: tape as some of the notes that I've got. I

1356
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: didn't see a ton of vision. I didn't see that

1357
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: footwork and that that instinct that going downhill, kind of

1358
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 3: like what Bobby's saying.

1359
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 4: I didn't see a ton of coverage there.

1360
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: I watched him against West Virginia, and then I took

1361
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three tape against Rutgers in Ohio State

1362
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: looked at him a little bit there. I think he

1363
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: can play downhill better than anybody. Maybe not better than

1364
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: anybody that's probably too much so, but probably up with

1365
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: the better safeties in this draft.

1366
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: I think cover tight ends. I mean his length, in

1367
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: his size, he could got. I saw a guy that

1368
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 5: can flip his hips and be able to run with receivers.

1369
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: But like I said, we'll have to see how the

1370
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 5: knee injury hurts his mobility on that especially change of direction.

1371
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 4: A little bit questionable there.

1372
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 3: Jake Brenning Stool we talked to him and tight end

1373
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 3: out of Clemson during our time at the senior ball.

1374
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: Why did you make that?

1375
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 7: I tell you what, man. When I was watching film

1376
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 7: on the first thing I thought was, boy, maya mccarthur

1377
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 7: lud his kid. They run some hitches and slants over there.

1378
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: Boy, Yeah, they do a lot of misdirection with him.

1379
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: A lot of run around the circle, run through the

1380
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, and get magically open some of those places.

1381
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 7: I hate those those plays you kin him open. I

1382
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 7: hate that, But most of his plays are we gonna

1383
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 7: run some hitches, We're gonna run some slams, were gonna

1384
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 7: run some hous. That's really what it is. Doesn't really

1385
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 7: have a have a deep game to him, you know.

1386
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 7: He he could be a somewhat yeat guy, like if

1387
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 7: he get a couple of steps, but they tackle him.

1388
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 7: For the most part, I didn't think he was. He

1389
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 7: was that big of a dude. And I think that

1390
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 7: they that they move him around because they just can't

1391
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 7: keep him in line. I don't think he's gonna block anybody.

1392
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: Him Ergatston.

1393
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 7: Uh, Syracuse. Yeah, I put gasing over him.

1394
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: It's a run day. Yeah, I play touching tags for me,

1395
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: but I have brending stool a little bit better.

1396
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 6: I liked it more than you did. At six six

1397
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 6: two forty one. Like he's a guy that I think

1398
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 6: can run the same. I think he can give you

1399
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: something down the field. Uh and first six six guy,

1400
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 6: He'll go down and catch some balls that are low

1401
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 6: on him too. He'll dig something out of the dirt

1402
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 6: for you. But you're right, he's used a ton in

1403
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 6: misdirection and you do see him engage in climb to

1404
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 6: the second level. He just doesn't have a ton of power,

1405
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 6: and there's not a lot of bend there either, because.

1406
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: He's such a tall guy. He's only two forty.

1407
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 6: But I mean to be yeah, he needs to put

1408
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: on some power, put on some weight. But as a

1409
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 6: number two tight end, that will develop over the course

1410
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 6: of his career. He could end up developing into an

1411
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 6: impactful player.

1412
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: He's a good route runner too, for a tight end.

1413
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: I thought he ran routes pretty well. He's a big

1414
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: play threat. They used him over the top quite a bit.

1415
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: Did anybody watched the SMU game.

1416
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: Miami, Wake, Forest and Georgia.

1417
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 7: That's a bad thing about tight ends two.

1418
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 5: He got tossed around pretty good in Get Yeah, our

1419
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 5: end roberts yet couple of times he's.

1420
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 8: Tough because he he looks like a receiver. He looks

1421
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 8: like a big receiver out there. He's not athletic enough

1422
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 8: to be a big receiver at the NFL level. Correct,

1423
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 8: that's the biggest thing. You play Gats in a big

1424
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 8: receiver then, I mean he's a Tweeners, so I mean

1425
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 8: probably I could see him playing big receiver. I could see.

1426
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 8: I think there's flexibility with Gats. The thing here with him,

1427
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 8: I don't think in line. I just watched him for

1428
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 8: the first time yesterday the Clemson No, the Clemson tight

1429
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 8: end Okay, I just watched him for the first time

1430
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 8: yesterday when we were talking about who we're going to discuss,

1431
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 8: and I see a guy who can be a contributor

1432
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 8: in a tight end room. I don't think that's ever

1433
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 8: going to develop into a starter.

1434
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 7: I wrote in here that he.

1435
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 8: Looks like a big receiver, doesn't have the athleticism or

1436
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 8: polished to transition. I think the lack of athleticism keeps

1437
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 8: defenders in his pocket pretty consistently, causes some some suffocation

1438
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 8: in man coverage. He sits down in his own he's

1439
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 8: pretty aware. He's good there are But I don't think

1440
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 8: you can just say, like, all right, that's our starting

1441
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 8: to I don't think that's going to be a guy

1442
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 8: he develops into at any point.

1443
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: No, it's a good point.

1444
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: And the guy that I compared him to when I

1445
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: was looking at the film and looking back at notes

1446
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: was Harrison Bryant from a couple.

1447
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 5: Of years ago.

1448
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: You remember sure six foot five, kind of undersized, slender

1449
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: build to him, and and Bryant to your point, Bobby

1450
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: never really stuck around to tight end, hadn't played very

1451
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: well with Cleveland still in the league. Currently, he's with

1452
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: the Eagles now he's this backup currently in Philadelphia, but was.

1453
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 4: With the Raiders last year.

1454
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: He's been on that to roster, but he's been a

1455
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: backup tight end and hasn't necessarily developed into a big

1456
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: play threat like they thought maybe out of the fourth

1457
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: round that they drafted him out of fau back in

1458
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: twenty twenty.

1459
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 8: I compared him to Doreel green Beckham with tease taber speed.

1460
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: That's what I okay, okay, well.

1461
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 8: Missuri Missouri, you love you loved Doreel greenback if we

1462
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 8: all did.

1463
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: I was looking at you, Bobby, and I was like, everybody's.

1464
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 8: Entitled that's twelve years ago that day.

1465
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for us here on

1466
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: the Draft show. Hope you had some fun with us

1467
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 3: here with this next or this last hour.

1468
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: When we come back on Thursday, will officially be three

1469
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: weeks out from the NFL Draft. It is coming up

1470
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: very very.

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Speaker 3: Quickly for Zach Wolchuck Bryan brought us watch from Barty

1472
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: Bobby Belt with Chris Beam and the back of Kyle

1473
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeomans saying so long.

1474
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Speaker 4: We'll see on Thursday with more of the Draft show.

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