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Speaker 1: completely blown away last week by Ross Collins reporting out

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Speaker 1: with feature Story News. Ross. First, let's start with Italy.

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Speaker 1: How did you get out number one and number two?

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Speaker 1: So how has the Italian government responded economically and how

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Speaker 1: back to Delco, you go to people are so incredibly

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Speaker 1: week ago. And and it's it's dizzying, it's incredibly dizzying.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, I struggled as a reporter interviewing

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Speaker 1: insane that in a time like this, when you've got

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Speaker 1: me that these lawmakers can't get this done yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really disgusting and and nothing has in my

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Speaker 1: of days. This is, uh, it is indefensible. And you're right, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: no question you mentioned the tailgates and sporting events and

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Uh, you know, it's going to

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Speaker 1: you know, we sort of said, you know, something like,

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Speaker 1: isn't going to change all that much. But this is

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Speaker 1: affecting everybody across the country and every socioeconomic strata. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there is so Matt Brooks, who is the Republican strategist

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Speaker 1: to how the Israelis have been responding to this, how

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Speaker 1: days and uh well before anybody else started doing that,

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Speaker 1: and then ultimately locking down, um, locking down the country,

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Speaker 1: virus so that the the economic they can rebuild the

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Speaker 1: economy on the back end. We've done it a little

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Speaker 1: bit backwards. Are different than the Israelis because it took

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Speaker 1: on the back end. How do you think this changes

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Speaker 1: an evolutionary thing evolved from the wet markets. But beyond that,

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Speaker 1: it needed to be. Well, see, I I totally agree.

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Speaker 1: And I have so many questions for China, which I

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Speaker 1: believe we're doing tomorrow or Wednesday. Um, and I just

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Speaker 1: I grab apple with what this will look like for

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Speaker 1: China uh in a couple of months, because I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you trust General Secretary Shi Jing

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Speaker 1: Ping of the Communist Party of China and when there's

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Speaker 1: allegations that they withheld information? So you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wait and see on that front.

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Speaker 1: But first we've got to get through this FuG uh.

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Speaker 1: Matt Brooks is on the line. He's a Republican strategist

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Speaker 1: and executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. Just to

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Speaker 1: sm Kevin Cereli, Chief Washington correspondent fro Bloomberg TV and

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Speaker 1: Radio you can listen to that entire briefing here on

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg FM. Uh and we'll bring We'll cut in mad

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Speaker 1: if I interrupt you. It's because it's because the president.

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Speaker 1: The president came out. You know, I've been somewhat um

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Speaker 1: impressed to see how the elected officials in the DMV

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Speaker 1: region and have responded to this. Have you or do

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Speaker 1: you have criticism or just being here in this area,

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Speaker 1: I guess we have to wait and see. But how

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Speaker 1: how have you observed that? No? I think look, I

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously we're seeing numbers increase in the d

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Speaker 1: extent that other places are. And and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: thankfully the the citizens have been following I think the

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Speaker 1: out there about you know, taking the necessary precautions and

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Speaker 1: social distancing and and you know, not putting uh yourself

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Speaker 1: in a dangerous situation with you with large crowds and groups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: totally a thousand percent. And I saw online that you know,

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Speaker 1: take out food and curbside food. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: but that's a small and you know that's so important, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: because I think, you know, that's something that all of

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Speaker 1: us can do to help. You know, the people in

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Speaker 1: to the extent that you know, any of us can

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Speaker 1: help patronize them, not by going in and eating in

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been so impressed, you know, with despite

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Speaker 1: all the all the craziness on the hill and and

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Speaker 1: in the in in in this legislative battle right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: And you know it's little things. It's like when you

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Speaker 1: stuff together, uh as a result of this is you know,

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Speaker 1: it just makes me smile, and it's it's great to

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Speaker 1: get back to uh uh something that's given you know,

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Speaker 1: electronics and you know all the other distractions work and

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Speaker 1: everything else we've moved away from. You know, my sister

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Speaker 1: It's called house Party app, and you can it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like playing charades with FaceTime. House Party app. If

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Speaker 1: like FaceTime and do trivia with who with your family.

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like a board a virtual way

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Speaker 1: to play a board game. But we were hysterical. We've

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Speaker 1: playhouse party, Matt Brooks, just final question for you. Give

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Speaker 1: on a high note in like a minute. I think

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Speaker 1: the Eagles have made some good off. Oh it feels

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Speaker 1: good to talk about the birds. It feels good to

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Speaker 1: talk about the birds. And I, you know, I go

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Speaker 1: on ESPN and what do I see? I see like bowling.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is even going? And we're grateful to everyone.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you for that, Matt, Yeah you too.

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Speaker 1: Stay healthy, Stay safe. Matt Brooks, Republican strategist and executive

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Speaker 1: director of Republican Jewish Coalition. We're gonna go to We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to get a HOGI when all this is over, Matt,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Listen to the Coronavirus Task Force meeting

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Speaker 1: brief rather live here on Bloomberg, and for all of

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