Speaker 1: Oh, friends, We've got a big announcement.
Speaker 2: This is so exciting.
Speaker 3: I feel like we've gone too long without really dishing
Speaker 3: any hot goss and I yeah, like we owe it
Speaker 3: to the listeners today to just break them off a
Speaker 3: juicy piece of goss.
Speaker 2: I love it served piping hot.
Speaker 3: He wants to be the one to open this gift.
Speaker 4: Go on, Sophia, I see your excited smile.
Speaker 2: I was about to be like, we all look so
Speaker 2: excited about it. Guys, really, not only has it been
Speaker 2: too long since we had, as Rob said, hot goss
Speaker 2: for you, but we feel like it's been too long
Speaker 2: since we've all been on stage with you.
Speaker 4: So we've made some very exciting plans, and we hope
Speaker 4: that you'll all make those plans with us. We're going
Speaker 4: to be in Wilmington at Trick.
Speaker 3: And we will be performing a three person production of
Speaker 3: The Emperor's New Clothes. It'll be four hours of very
Speaker 3: confusing acting. Now what we'd be doing there. We will
Speaker 3: be a recording our finale episode live with all of you.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 2: It makes me emotional.
Speaker 4: You said finale in my heart like broke.
Speaker 1: That's the bitter part.
Speaker 3: The sweet part is that we get to share it
Speaker 3: with all the fans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, That's true.
Speaker 1: That's what makes it so special.
Speaker 4: We love you, guys, We love all the support that
Speaker 4: you've brought to us over the years, not just for
Speaker 4: Drama Queens, but Winter Hill in general. I mean, you've
Speaker 4: been with us on this ride for so long, so
Speaker 4: we really want to celebrate the end of this part
Speaker 4: of Drama Queens with you, and we just hope that
Speaker 4: you'll that you'll come out. So we've had some more
Speaker 4: details here.
Speaker 2: Yes, we will be there. Thanks to our friends who
Speaker 2: organize the most wonderful conventions that let us all come home.
Speaker 2: We will be doing a live show at the next
Speaker 2: convention on Saturday, November first. It'll be at seven pm,
Speaker 2: and as Joy mentioned, we're doing this at trick Feels correct.
Speaker 1: Listen and it starts at seven. Who knows when it's
Speaker 1: good end Because all three of us love to talk.
Speaker 3: We can get we can get it, we can get
Speaker 3: a little along with it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it's going to be fun and none of us
Speaker 3: want this to end, so maybe we just pull an
Speaker 3: all nighter. I don't know, is what.
Speaker 1: I'm lock in.
Speaker 2: I'll lock in, Oh my God, Yes, so fun. And
Speaker 2: it's exciting too, because getting to do this on a
Speaker 2: convention weekend means we get to be together. It means
Speaker 2: so many of our other castmates will be there. It
Speaker 2: means so many of you are already coming to Wilmington.
Speaker 2: So if you're on the fence, get off it and
Speaker 2: book a ticket and come and join us.
Speaker 3: Get off your fence already, Get off that fence.
Speaker 1: Here's where you're gonna get your tickets.
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Speaker 2: There's all sorts of tickets and packages and things, and yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe it turns into a lock in.
Speaker 3: Are you a fancy listener?
Speaker 1: Guess what?
Speaker 3: There are VIP packages just for you.
Speaker 2: Rob, you don't say, oh I do. So that's the finale.
Speaker 1: It's just using.
Speaker 3: Fun energy we're gonna be bringing to Wilmington.
Speaker 4: What if we whispered the entire finale, if we just did.
Speaker 3: This we did, we say, everyone get your snacks out now,
Speaker 3: because we don't want any crinkling of paper.
Speaker 2: It's lulla by time. Yes, guys, we don't know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen, but we know it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Get your tickets now, all right, SOF and I are
Speaker 4: going to go into this episode. Rob's on set. He's
Speaker 4: gonna run back out. We love you, We're gonna miss
Speaker 4: see you on this one. But well, thanks for talking yea.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. By good luck out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Hi. Everyone, we're.
Speaker 2: Season finale, Yes, yes, season season We're not there yet.
Speaker 2: I am starting to like get that feeling though, that
Speaker 2: I had at the end of production where I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not ready.
Speaker 4: I know, I know this was This was emotional for
Speaker 4: me to watch and also strange because I knew it.
Speaker 4: I know it's not the end. But as a viewer
Speaker 4: back then, like and as an actor on the show,
Speaker 4: we didn't.
Speaker 2: Know, we didn't know thought that this was going to
Speaker 2: be it. We should also probably mention it's not that
Speaker 2: we're not leaving any room for Rob to talk.
Speaker 1: He's not here today.
Speaker 2: He is filming a movie at the moment. We're very
Speaker 2: excited for him, but it also feels really weird to
Speaker 2: not have him to talk about the episode with because
Speaker 2: it is the season finale.
Speaker 4: I know, and he had so much great stuff in
Speaker 4: this season. Well, he'll just have to wag in on
Speaker 4: the next one at the beginning of season nine. But
Speaker 4: for now, we've got episode twenty two, This is My House,
Speaker 4: This is My Home, which aired in May twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: The synopsis reads, as Brooke and Haley prepare to reopen
Speaker 2: Karen's cafe, Oh my god, it makes me so emotional.
Speaker 2: Mayvan and Clay hit the road looking for new prospective clients. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Chase leaves for the Air Force, leaving a disappointed Alex
Speaker 2: and Chuck behind, and Mouth and Millicent begin their new
Speaker 2: morning show together.
Speaker 4: I loved this morning show, love it so much, so
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: It's the best.
Speaker 4: I'm so it was such a great idea that I
Speaker 4: wish they had come up with it sooner. Because I
Speaker 4: feel like we could have done so much an entire
Speaker 4: I mean, they could have done a spin off, to
Speaker 4: be honest, there was just so much material that could
Speaker 4: have been done. But I love the two of them
Speaker 4: the Treill Morning Show. We've been waiting so eight years
Speaker 4: for this to happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they're just so good together. And I think
Speaker 2: the way that we've seen them growing as a couple
Speaker 2: but also as these unlikely business partners in a way
Speaker 2: through the end of this season and that gorgeous crescendo
Speaker 2: moment where she turns the mic over to him at
Speaker 2: the end of the last episode and everyone obviously sobbed
Speaker 2: and on the fly.
Speaker 4: He just has these perfectly poetic, such beautiful things to say,
Speaker 4: and he pulled it off that it didn't feel scripted
Speaker 4: or planned, just flowed from who Marvin is.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: It felt so nice. It was such a highlight moment
Speaker 2: for me of the episode, you know, watching Lee and
Speaker 2: Lisa together and it does they just feel like they're
Speaker 2: in this perfect spot. I want this morning show in
Speaker 2: real life.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, And it feels you know you said this
Speaker 4: in the previous podcast, that all of our characters feel
Speaker 4: settled now, And I see that with Mouth and Milly,
Speaker 4: that they brought us to that point where finally, after
Speaker 4: everything they've been through individually and together, they're finally just
Speaker 4: settled in with each other. That when she gets this
Speaker 4: opportunity to do a job somewhere else, it's almost not
Speaker 4: even surprising that she comes back. She's just like, you know, no,
Speaker 4: you're my person. This is where I want to be.
Speaker 4: When am I climbing a ladder that I never even
Speaker 4: tried to be on in the first place?
Speaker 1: Like what for what?
Speaker 4: I just want to be with you? And that's the
Speaker 4: beauty of what life is about. And so much of
Speaker 4: what our show is about is appreciating what you have
Speaker 4: in your own backyard. And we're living in a modern culture,
Speaker 4: especially in America, where we're just trying to climb ladders
Speaker 4: all the time, and at some point it's like, can
Speaker 4: we just enjoy what we have? Like what's wrong with that?
Speaker 4: Can that just be meaningful enough?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, like where you live, be with your people,
Speaker 2: you know, And it's really nice too. I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 2: We are starting to see Jamie step into his young
Speaker 2: boyhood in a way that feels reminiscent of the stories
Speaker 2: when we first met our characters Hayley and Lucas and
Speaker 2: Peyton and Nathan and Brooke, and they would talk about
Speaker 2: growing up in Tree Hill. They would talk about building
Speaker 2: igloos at eight and you know, playing basketball with the
Speaker 2: other kids and all of these things. We're seeing Jamie
Speaker 2: enter into that, you know, seven year old range and
Speaker 2: he's doing the things his parents did when when they
Speaker 2: were little, and it's really it's a it's a full circle.
Speaker 1: Is he only seven? Gosh? I feel like he seems
Speaker 1: like he's.
Speaker 4: Eleven, like ten or eleven? Now did they say he
Speaker 4: was seven? Oh my gosh, he seems so much older
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I just remember the drama of liking somebody at that age. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like that it made it feel like ten or eleven,
Speaker 4: I don't think. Yeah. Because also Nathan lets him go
Speaker 4: for a walk by himself in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: So he might be approaching ten. So yeah, really the
Speaker 2: ages that you've heard us tell stories about each other,
Speaker 2: and I just I don't know, it's so sweet seeing
Speaker 2: him in that space and also using his voiceover more
Speaker 2: and more ever since the Baseball episode opening on him
Speaker 2: talking about being raised in a magic time by musicians
Speaker 2: in a web of magic. Like it's just it's every
Speaker 2: bit of the nostalgia that we need after eight seasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they really brought it, brought it full circle.
Speaker 1: Brook's also grown a lot.
Speaker 4: I feel like, just in between these last two episodes,
Speaker 4: I mean, it was Puerto Rico and then the next
Speaker 4: thing we know, she's seven months pregnant.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: So that was the really interesting thing about this episode
Speaker 2: is that we start moving through the pregnancy, and after
Speaker 2: every commercial break we skip, So it's you see two
Speaker 2: months on the wall, and then they trace three, and
Speaker 2: then you see four, and then they're tracing five. And
Speaker 2: so we used this episode thinking it would be the
Speaker 2: series finale to cover the ten months of her pregnancy,
Speaker 2: so you see almost the whole year go by in
Speaker 2: the episode. Yeah, which is why in the beginning she's like,
Speaker 2: I think I'm showing and he's like, you're skinny, and
Speaker 2: she's made. And then later later he says, you know,
Speaker 2: when he's tracing the five month belly, he goes, look
Speaker 2: how bad you are.
Speaker 1: It's so sweet.
Speaker 4: I really love I love watching Broke and Julian too.
Speaker 4: They've gotten to a point where they're settled and where
Speaker 4: they even without the pregnancy, they would have been okay,
Speaker 4: and so it just feels like a bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you remember how you had to wear a big
Speaker 4: pregnancy belly. I guess you had to wear lots of
Speaker 4: different paths in that were they uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It was interesting trying to figure it out, you know,
Speaker 2: how to tell the story of a pregnancy in one episode,
Speaker 2: let alone a pregnancy with twins. Yeah, so we basically
Speaker 2: had raw of all the different sized bumps. And then
Speaker 2: I remember even when we did the scene where I
Speaker 2: think I'm showing and I'm like, look, I chugged too,
Speaker 2: like two or three bottles of water to just to
Speaker 2: get my bladder, and then like we're trying to shoot
Speaker 2: the scene and I'm desperate. I desperately had to pee.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you know, but.
Speaker 2: It didn't make sense to be like are you showing?
Speaker 2: Are you not? Did you eat a burrito? Like you
Speaker 2: wouldn't do a fake belly for that, but alone a
Speaker 2: prosthetic one with me lifting up my shirt. So that
Speaker 2: was a lot of water. And then I remember they
Speaker 2: started putting me in padded bras and then we started
Speaker 2: to go up in the belly size, and then the
Speaker 2: twin bellies are really big and they sort of sit differently,
Speaker 2: so then I would then I would start when I
Speaker 2: was doing those scenes, like keeping bowls of snacks on
Speaker 2: fake belly and using it as like a little table
Speaker 2: for my cheese. It's on my pret sauce, which was great.
Speaker 2: It's great, like, oh, this is kind of cool. This
Speaker 2: is like one of the only perks I think the
Speaker 2: girls get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you only had to wear those pads, like, uh,
Speaker 4: we had one it was one offs and it was
Speaker 4: one episode, and there was multiple at different times. Oh man,
Speaker 4: when Haley was pregnant with Jamie, I had to be
Speaker 4: in that stink and pregnancy belly for so many episodes.
Speaker 1: It's hot. It was hot for me.
Speaker 2: That's what people don't realize. They're made of a really
Speaker 2: dense foam and like a pillow, they're but worse like
Speaker 2: dense squishy, yeah, mattress poper foam. Yes, kind of like that,
Speaker 2: and they're hot. And then when we did the scene
Speaker 2: where we're doing the ultrasound and we discover its twins,
Speaker 2: we had to do the prosthetic right, and so then
Speaker 2: it all gets glued to your belly and it's just oh,
Speaker 2: you're just covered in like plastic and glue and stick,
Speaker 2: and oh it was terrible. It was disgusting, but so
Speaker 2: cute in the episode.
Speaker 4: Yes it worked, it was great. But speaking of the
Speaker 4: doctor or you know, finding out being in the hospital,
Speaker 4: finding out the doctor who helps you, it is this
Speaker 4: same doctor that was like helping Nathan with his back.
Speaker 4: I know, Goes, I've only been doing.
Speaker 2: This for thirty five years, and I'm like, I thought
Speaker 2: you were an orthopedic specialist.
Speaker 4: What, yeah, guess not. That was That was a really
Speaker 4: funny fumble. I'm so surprised that nobody. Nobody got that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a little bit when he came on screen.
Speaker 2: I went, oh, interesting, interesting, likely right, all.
Speaker 4: Of this stuff in Karen's Cafe was great. And I
Speaker 4: remember I think I was actually still of aired in May.
Speaker 4: I had either just had Maria or I was still pregnant,
Speaker 4: because I think I was still pregnant in the Puerto
Speaker 4: Rico episode, which is why I couldn't go.
Speaker 2: Well Puerto Rico at the end of the season, remember,
Speaker 2: which was when that was the whole thing. We you left.
Speaker 2: We basically shot everything in eight twenty and then in
Speaker 2: the finale that you weren't in. And then we went
Speaker 2: to Puerto Rico at the very end of the season,
Speaker 2: at the end of April. It was the last thing
Speaker 2: we shot was Puerto Rico, and then everybody went home.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I looked still pregnant, but also when
Speaker 4: you actually have a baby, you still look pregnant for
Speaker 4: a good couple of months after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was also one of the really surreal things,
Speaker 2: which always is obviously about when an actor has to
Speaker 2: play a pregnancy but obviously isn't pregnant. It was very
Speaker 2: surreal to just be like adding the belly and the
Speaker 2: boobs to brook but you know, I wasn't pregnant. I
Speaker 2: wasn't gaining weight in you know, my arms and my
Speaker 2: face and my lips and all the day it happened
Speaker 2: to women and you had just had a baby. And
Speaker 2: I remember there would be days where we'd be on
Speaker 2: set together and just be like, this is so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Like this is real, realistic.
Speaker 4: Well, look, there are women in the world who managed
Speaker 4: to carry their babies like basketballs and they drop them
Speaker 4: and their bodies kind of bounce back. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: God bless them. I don't think that's the majority, but
Speaker 4: it happens, so Brooke gets to be one of those people.
Speaker 2: Well blessed for her.
Speaker 1: I don't think those are, but yeah, I remember.
Speaker 4: I think I was still pregnant in Puerto rican when
Speaker 4: you guys went to Puerto Rico. But yeah, it was
Speaker 4: so nice to see and I was so grateful on
Speaker 4: set that they were keeping me in one location, but
Speaker 4: to see Karen's Cafe coming back, and I wish we
Speaker 4: had been able to get Moira back for the last
Speaker 4: episode in some way, just to sort of give us
Speaker 4: her Karen's Cafe blessing. I did feel like we missed that,
Speaker 4: especially since we got Dan. But I was so happy
Speaker 4: to see us go back to Karen's Cafe revital like that.
Speaker 4: That felt as much as we had grown to love
Speaker 4: close Over Bros. To see that that's going to have
Speaker 4: a new iteration in some other way and that Karen's
Speaker 4: Cafe gets to be alive again made me happy.
Speaker 1: You have you been there in town recently to the spot?
Speaker 2: Yeah, last time I was in Wilmington, we drove by.
Speaker 2: It's like a it's an outdoor store.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's like a sports kind of like
Speaker 4: an ri sports I know makes me sense, though I
Speaker 4: really wish it was still Karen's.
Speaker 2: I do too, But it was really sweet I think
Speaker 2: for us to have that, especially because there's been so
Speaker 2: much focus, you know on will Brook get to start
Speaker 2: a family, Haley and Nathan having just had another baby,
Speaker 2: this project for us as friends with our kids and
Speaker 2: knowing that you know, they'll get to play on that roof,
Speaker 2: just like I talked about and all these things. It
Speaker 2: it feels like a homecoming and a next chapter at
Speaker 2: the same time. And knowing that we thought this would
Speaker 2: be the series finale. I just think it's exactly the
Speaker 2: right decision.
Speaker 4: Yeah, would you do that with your friend? Like what
Speaker 4: would you want to open? Is there a business you'd
Speaker 4: want to open with your friends? If you got to
Speaker 4: a place where you're like, you know what, I'm settling here.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 4: I want to open up this thing, and like your
Speaker 4: friends get to come work there and hang with their kids,
Speaker 4: and what would you want to do.
Speaker 2: So one of my best friends and I talk about
Speaker 2: this all the time. We really want to open like
Speaker 2: a gorgeous sandwich shop with great coffee that's also an
Speaker 2: antique store.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is like my dream. I wanted Anthropology to
Speaker 4: have a coffee shop in it all the time.
Speaker 1: They never do. But this is better because there's food.
Speaker 2: We want to do, like a great long meal lunch
Speaker 2: spot where every every gorgeous thing in the restaurant is
Speaker 2: also for sale, so we can rotate things through all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: And is that ABC in New York? Have you been
Speaker 1: to the ABC?
Speaker 2: There's like, yeah, ABC has their furniture store and then their.
Speaker 1: Kitchen, but they're separate. I don't know which.
Speaker 2: Came first, but yeah, they are separate. I mean because
Speaker 2: one had to have a you know, a kitchen in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's great.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love that spot that there's two restaurants now it's
Speaker 4: they cover an entire block.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: So now you can go to one one on the
Speaker 4: other side on one side, and one on the other side,
Speaker 4: and then they've got that whole store you can shop in.
Speaker 1: But I like this idea. Where would you do it?
Speaker 2: I mean, we'd probably do it here.
Speaker 4: We do it in New York, Yeah, in the city,
Speaker 4: or a little like place outside of the city somewhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, my favorite part of Brooklyn has
Speaker 2: been on my vision board forever. So if eventually that
Speaker 2: becomes possible, that would be a dream. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: we'd be you know, she and I would be neighbors anyway,
Speaker 2: which would be so fun. But I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: it also feels like the sort of thing that would potentially,
Speaker 2: you know, depending on the neighborhood and the walkability, do
Speaker 2: really well in la It could be a vibe in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It makes me think of Lily's Market, the Little Market
Speaker 4: member downtown. It was, yeah, yes, she used to have
Speaker 4: back when we were renting videos at Blockbuster. Still she
Speaker 4: had a video rental wall and a clothing rack, and
Speaker 4: a cheese refrigerator and wine local wines, and it was
Speaker 4: just all these random things and I loved that place.
Speaker 4: I'm so sad that they closed it.
Speaker 1: But she was this.
Speaker 4: Young, she was probably in her mid twenties and she
Speaker 4: had opened up this store. It did really well for
Speaker 4: a while. It was downtown, right on the water in Wilmington,
Speaker 4: the little market. Her name was Lily, Lily.
Speaker 1: I loved that.
Speaker 4: That's been a little fantasy of mine one day to
Speaker 4: just do something like that.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so cool. My girlfriend Lauren did
Speaker 2: something similar in Chicago. She has this great shop called
Speaker 2: Rider and it's vintage furniture, like incredible vintage furniture, art apothecary,
Speaker 2: Candle's jewelry, Knew, like every kind of cool thing you
Speaker 2: could want she has in one store. And she's an
Speaker 2: interior designer.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna be in Chicago next weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'll say, Oh, it's the best.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we we did my apartment there together, and
Speaker 2: then we were literally planning on launching design services as
Speaker 2: a duo, and then COVID hit and like everything shifted
Speaker 2: and she wound up moving to France for two years
Speaker 2: and like, but it was this moment in time. We
Speaker 2: were about to do an apartment together in one of
Speaker 2: the Emes buildings there. We were so excited and then
Speaker 2: you know, the world had other plans. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 2: just still something I think I have an itch for.
Speaker 4: I would show up for your shop, whatever it is.
Speaker 4: I would love to see whenever he carried. That would
Speaker 4: be really fun.
Speaker 2: I would love it.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have to talk about speaking of Karen's Cafe Monomena.
Speaker 2: What was the deal?
Speaker 1: What in the world?
Speaker 4: Why I remember us all being so confused, even James,
Speaker 4: and credit to him, he committed so hard to that
Speaker 4: he learned it. He was like a good sport about it.
Speaker 4: But it was so bizarre. It felt like knowing everything
Speaker 4: that we know, it felt to me like some sort
Speaker 4: of weird retaliation against him for something who knows what,
Speaker 4: but by the showrunner that like just whatever, for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: and James got on his bad side for a minute
Speaker 4: and just decided to write this ridiculous scene.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just could not wrap my brain around why in
Speaker 4: the world this happened me neither.
Speaker 2: It felt really strange. It was it was it felt
Speaker 2: like another toaster strude al moment, yes where I was like,
Speaker 2: why keep wanting us to do this stuff? It's like
Speaker 2: the high five, the toaster pastry, the monomena. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is this?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was so strange, and it wasn't just like fifteen
Speaker 4: seconds of it. It was the entire song. I just
Speaker 4: remember all of us being so confused. Even on the
Speaker 4: day we were shooting. We were there on set and
Speaker 4: James is doing it and I was like, what what
Speaker 4: I think? He was just like, I don't know, let's
Speaker 4: just get it over with like fine.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just don't get it. And it's weird,
Speaker 2: the sort of back and forth, you know, the stuff
Speaker 2: that you can feel there's weird energy underneath, and then
Speaker 2: the stuff that feels so pure, you know, as we're
Speaker 2: watching Brooke go through this pregnancy and her and Julian
Speaker 2: are so happy, and then the reviews come in for
Speaker 2: his movie, Oh that was so sweet, and they're so beautiful.
Speaker 2: There's such beautiful moments in the last episode. In this episode,
Speaker 2: the writing really is phenomenal, and I'm just like, how
Speaker 2: does how does this all exist in the same episode?
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 4: And of all the things that they had, all the
Speaker 4: material they had, like I would have taken two minutes
Speaker 4: of Mouth and Millie hands down over Nathan doing monomena,
Speaker 4: Like we already know he's a great dad.
Speaker 1: We have no need.
Speaker 4: It's not furthering the story anymore. It's not getting us anywhere.
Speaker 4: I just don't know why it was written.
Speaker 2: It would have been just as easy to have him
Speaker 2: up on that stage with Lydia in that little baby
Speaker 2: born taking the mic and being like are you going
Speaker 2: to sing like your mom? Are you going to be
Speaker 2: a singer like your mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you watched it shot yeah, yeah, two.
Speaker 2: Seconds a durable move on.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was like one of those things like the
Speaker 4: doggying the Heart where it's so ridiculous that the hope
Speaker 4: was that it would get on the soup exactly, that
Speaker 4: it would get on the soup, that it would get
Speaker 4: like a little publicity for being so ridiculous. But at
Speaker 4: least then eyeballs. Then the name of the show is
Speaker 4: out there. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I wish James was here, but he would still be
Speaker 4: classy about it even if he.
Speaker 2: Was here, so he totally would be like, oh, it
Speaker 2: was fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next, let's talk about something else.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love that toad the Wet Sprocket song that they
Speaker 4: let me sing.
Speaker 1: But why do they let me play guitar?
Speaker 4: I am not a guitar player, Like I play enough
Speaker 4: to just sort of, you know, get across an idea something,
Speaker 4: But then you hire in real people. I have no
Speaker 4: I I'm watching that, like, why why did they let
Speaker 4: me actually play guitar? It's so bad? Why didn't they
Speaker 4: just bring.
Speaker 1: Somebody else in? It was so mad?
Speaker 4: But it was fun to sing that because I did
Speaker 4: love that song. I loved that song in high school.
Speaker 2: I did too. I thought it was so good. It
Speaker 2: was a nice It did feel like a nice I
Speaker 2: don't know, throwback in a way. Yeah, and the sort
Speaker 2: of some of the music being a little older and
Speaker 2: then something's feeling really fresh. It just again it all,
Speaker 2: it all really feels like it's coming full circle, which
Speaker 2: is interesting because then we do thirteen more episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I will say, speaking of the music, I
Speaker 2: was really glad we were back to Gavin for the
Speaker 2: theme song you too.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 4: I've been skipping the intro for so every weeks because.
Speaker 2: I just can't. I can't either, I just can't do it.
Speaker 2: So it was really nice to have the song that
Speaker 2: we know and that imprinted on our show back.
Speaker 4: It was like taking a deep breath of relief when
Speaker 4: I heard his voice come on.
Speaker 1: Me too, like oh, thank god.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I also really liked that when we
Speaker 2: got to Mouth and Millie in the morning and we
Speaker 2: had had this beautiful moment knowing that Julian's movie you
Speaker 2: Know is being so well reviewed. It's it all feels
Speaker 2: like this kind of ground swell of excitement and then
Speaker 2: it cuts to them and Alex's movie's coming out and
Speaker 2: they're getting to talk about it on the air, and
Speaker 2: then Janna's song is under it. Yeah, it all was
Speaker 2: just so great.
Speaker 1: Is this a movie we watched him shoot? Or am I? Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is his This is his Alex Duprey movie. We
Speaker 2: saw Sundance, but now it's coming out in theaters.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, the Alex and Chase of it all.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about them. Realistic not realistic? Are you sad
Speaker 4: that he didn't choose Mia or she didn't choose him?
Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I do really think that Jana and Steven
Speaker 2: are so great together and I just really enjoy watching them.
Speaker 2: And I think for Mia and Chase to have been together,
Speaker 2: she might have had to change her life in a
Speaker 2: way that I don't want her to. I don't want
Speaker 2: her to give up on touring and all the things,
Speaker 2: you know, despite how sweet they are together as well,
Speaker 2: Like there's something about the Alex and Chase that is
Speaker 2: sticky for a reason, and I think that they're sweet.
Speaker 2: Scene I mean, him saying meet me right here a
Speaker 2: year from today was so lovely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. That was really sweet.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I still I still as much as they do have
Speaker 4: good cam Janna and Stephen are great. I don't like Alex. Oh,
Speaker 4: I just don't like Alex, right. I don't believe her
Speaker 4: that she's changed at ever. She's like Dan, she just
Speaker 4: is constantly. I don't know. This is a character who
Speaker 4: is who has more often than not looked out for
Speaker 4: themselves and adjusted their personality and her uh herself to
Speaker 4: whatever it is that she actually wants to get. Rather
Speaker 4: than just maintaining a consistent personality, a consistent character like
Speaker 4: not character acting character, like a person, your your character
Speaker 4: within you, she hasn't maintained any consistency in that regard,
Speaker 4: and I just don't trust her and I don't like her.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, everybody.
Speaker 2: No, I mean listen, I think I get it, and
Speaker 2: I guess I'm part of me is like, oh do
Speaker 2: I am I personalizing that I like Jana, you know,
Speaker 2: to love Alex maybe a little. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I think there's there is there's always we always have
Speaker 2: an ability to understand characters, you know, on shows. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I think even better than we understand people because we
Speaker 2: watch the characters, we watch them try to grow, we
Speaker 2: watch them fail, we see them in moments we don't
Speaker 2: see our friends or our family or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: But I also hear, especially because we're watching episode to episode,
Speaker 2: like you've got a list, You've got a list of
Speaker 2: Alex's screw ups that you can't get over right there
Speaker 2: in your brain. And yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if she, if she was remorseful, if we
Speaker 4: actually got to see some apologies and some real like
Speaker 4: growth and not just an apology, but actually like making
Speaker 4: real changes, I feel like maybe I could obviously I
Speaker 4: would make space, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just yeah. Yeah, But you're right
Speaker 1: that we.
Speaker 4: Do watch characters differently than we watch each other because
Speaker 4: we know it's only for a limited time. You can
Speaker 4: watch every move, every detail, Yeah, unsupervised, and you know
Speaker 4: that you're being taught a lesson in some way, you're
Speaker 4: being told a story, and.
Speaker 2: You understand they're shortcomings in ways that we often don't
Speaker 2: understand people's shortcomings in the world because we don't we
Speaker 2: don't really get to see people struggle the way we
Speaker 2: get to see our TV characters struggle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You're not there in private moments in
Speaker 4: real life, but a camera can follow a character into
Speaker 4: a private.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So I don't know. It's interesting. On the
Speaker 2: one hand, Yes, when you list Alex's discretions, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, but she's trying so hard and
Speaker 2: she's growing and we're watching it happen, and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: interesting to kind of have the push and pull the character.
Speaker 1: That would be.
Speaker 4: So I want to start thinking about that with people
Speaker 4: in my real life, Like if there was a camera
Speaker 4: following them into private moments, what would that look like?
Speaker 4: Because I don't share mine very often. Like I don't
Speaker 4: often call a friend in a private moment because I
Speaker 4: don't know why. I don't know, I just don't. It's
Speaker 4: like I don't want to burden people or I don't want.
Speaker 3: To like.
Speaker 4: Be an interruption or an annoyance, and I know how
Speaker 4: neurotic I can be, and so I just want to
Speaker 4: deal with it on my own. Yeah, but if I
Speaker 4: had a friend who was in a private moment and
Speaker 4: reached out to me, I'd be I'm happy to I
Speaker 4: love that, Like I want to help and participate or
Speaker 4: just be a listening, ear or whatever. Why is it
Speaker 4: like so much harder to I don't know, to write out.
Speaker 2: I did this the other night with my best girlfriend
Speaker 2: from junior high in high school. The thing going on said, hey,
Speaker 2: can you talk? Took us two nights to both have
Speaker 2: you know, be home across time zones and in the
Speaker 2: right moments. And we sat on the phone for two
Speaker 2: hours and she walked me through all these things that
Speaker 2: she has going on, and I I then obviously we
Speaker 2: were just in conversation. I told her a bunch of things,
Speaker 2: and some of it she was like, wait, I didn't
Speaker 2: know this and I and it was exactly that realization.
Speaker 2: She was like, honey, pick up the phone. I'm always here,
Speaker 2: you know, to listen or whatever. And I just thought, yeah,
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I always worry that if I
Speaker 2: have something going on, I'm taking up someone else's time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I never feel like anyone's taking up my time.
Speaker 2: It's an honor to be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it is interesting that we it's interesting that we
Speaker 2: want to love people in ways we don't often let
Speaker 2: people love us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, absolutely, And then you know, I've got
Speaker 4: nothing to complain about if I feel like my you know,
Speaker 4: my friends don't know me as well as I want
Speaker 4: them to because I'm the one that's preventing that. Like
Speaker 4: I'm the one that's that's got the wall up, and
Speaker 4: it's just it's so hard to be it's so hard
Speaker 4: to be vulnerable. So maybe that's why we love our
Speaker 4: TV characters because we feel.
Speaker 2: Like but also that's what I was just going to say.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting when we look back at what
Speaker 2: rewatching this show has been, like, so much of what
Speaker 2: we enjoy about it is the way our characters communicate
Speaker 2: with each.
Speaker 4: Other totally totally. I know, it's kind of I want that.
Speaker 4: I always I always like, I want that so bad,
Speaker 4: but it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's harder in real life, like when it's in a script,
Speaker 4: you can say something that is yeah, outrageous or offensive
Speaker 4: or whatever, and the other person is just like they'll
Speaker 4: just blow back up at you and you have it
Speaker 4: out and then they you know, you're fine. But in
Speaker 4: real life, everybody just keeps their mouth shut most of
Speaker 4: the time. They're like okay, and then they walk away
Speaker 4: and they're like, well now I know, and then they
Speaker 4: just never follow up. And never like you. I want
Speaker 4: to be challenged. I want to be like engaged with
Speaker 4: in that way. But I don't know that I do
Speaker 4: that very often with people either, I will. It depends
Speaker 4: on how close we are, I guess I think that's
Speaker 4: part of it. It depends on how close you are
Speaker 4: with somebody. Maybe I don't know if that's making any sense.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a ramble.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it does, and I especially
Speaker 2: think I mean, listen, it can all depend right on
Speaker 2: what context. You know people, and you know how long
Speaker 2: you've been friends. But it's like, think about all the
Speaker 2: iterations over the last years we've been through with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And and there's always still a moment after however, many
Speaker 2: years at a time where you're like, we can still
Speaker 2: go this deep though, right, like are we going to
Speaker 2: challenge each other on this thing? Are we gonna? And
Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe it's just very human to be
Speaker 2: a little scared. Yeah, but like you push through it,
Speaker 2: Yeah you have to, or.
Speaker 1: You just won't.
Speaker 4: Like there's just no way to give and receive love
Speaker 4: for real, because there's no actual safety there. You don't
Speaker 4: know for sure if it's safe because you never actually
Speaker 4: pushed to find out, but I love that to bring
Speaker 4: it full circle. I think the thing that connects me
Speaker 4: about that with our show is that we in a way,
Speaker 4: I think we're able to model that for so many
Speaker 4: and like the having that modeled, even for me as
Speaker 4: a person, having that model by performing that with other
Speaker 4: characters in a weird meta sort of way really was
Speaker 4: helpful and informative, and I think one of the things
Speaker 4: that made people love our show so much and makes
Speaker 4: all of these moments in this last episode feel like
Speaker 4: such a payoff because everybody's been through all those private
Speaker 4: moments with us and they feel it too.
Speaker 2: I think so too. And you know what it really
Speaker 2: I'm realizing in real time as we're talking about it,
Speaker 2: not on camera, but on set, there is an expectation
Speaker 2: that you won't rock the boat, oh totally. You have
Speaker 2: to keep it pushing, you have to keep it professional.
Speaker 2: So you do learn, especially young and especially when you
Speaker 2: grew up on those set like ours, where things were
Speaker 2: changing all the time and no one was really talking
Speaker 2: about a lot of it, you kind of learn to
Speaker 2: just show up and be good and you're on eggshells
Speaker 2: a little about like are we going to acknowledge this,
Speaker 2: are we not We're not okay, We're just going to
Speaker 2: do the work today. And so I actually think being
Speaker 2: a young actor who works as regularly as we were
Speaker 2: all working at the time, you can learn to not
Speaker 2: ever bring anything up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you learn to just process things on your own
Speaker 4: because it's too risky. You risk it's too risky the
Speaker 4: tayos or piece of an entire production.
Speaker 2: Yep, and it might waste people's time and whatever. So
Speaker 2: you just keep everything at work for work. But then
Speaker 2: you don't really learn to talk to each other in
Speaker 2: the ways that people who don't have to perform on
Speaker 2: set do. And so I think it's also really interesting
Speaker 2: for us. You know, you learn in therapy that you
Speaker 2: carry all your younger versions of yourself in you, right,
Speaker 2: So in a really interesting way as adults, we are
Speaker 2: learning some of the quiet that we learned in real
Speaker 2: time when we were filming the show, and we're learning
Speaker 2: it watching how well we could communicate on camera in
Speaker 2: the ways we were never encouraged to off camera. And yeah,
Speaker 2: because on camera, off camera after the show rapped, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, because on camera there's no stakes, there's no
Speaker 2: real stakes you can play with the emotion of feeling uncertain,
Speaker 2: but you know for sure, like I'm gonna put this.
Speaker 4: This scene away and go home and have a real
Speaker 4: life how the episode's going to end, right, right, Whereas
Speaker 4: in real life you don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's a really fair point. And we
Speaker 4: learned a lot of that and we've had to we
Speaker 4: have to. I'm still unlearning that.
Speaker 2: I mean me too, But I really think about, like
Speaker 2: think about the way all of our friendships changed after
Speaker 2: the show finally wrapped. Yeah, you know, like things got
Speaker 2: deeper for people after everybody got to like take a
Speaker 2: b and then reunite in real life. And so it's
Speaker 2: interesting to me now it's almost like the third point
Speaker 2: of the triangle, Like we did it and we learned
Speaker 2: to be quiet, and we learned to perform above all else,
Speaker 2: and then we got a break and then we all
Speaker 2: got to reconnect in real life, and now our real
Speaker 2: life and our performance we're tying them together and going,
Speaker 2: oh my god, which is why doing this podcast is
Speaker 2: kind of like doing therapy for us.
Speaker 1: Yes, a thousand percent.
Speaker 4: And you know the weird thing is too, that's such
Speaker 4: a messes with your mind that when you're on a
Speaker 4: set for that long and doing that performative communication. As
Speaker 4: you're talking about, we learned how to connect with each
Speaker 4: other as a sort of surface version of each other
Speaker 4: because you couldn't go so deep as to rock the boat.
Speaker 4: So we had to sort of construct these ideas about
Speaker 4: who each other were and relate to that in order
Speaker 4: to keep the peace. And so there was like an
Speaker 4: element of knowing each other but also not not also
Speaker 4: the real depth. Yeah, so then it's like getting to
Speaker 4: know someone that you're supposed to have actually, like, we've
Speaker 4: known each other for twenty years, but how much of
Speaker 4: each other have we known for twenty years?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 4: Trying to dive back and figure out, like, what are
Speaker 4: the pieces here that are missing to fill in the
Speaker 4: whole picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start to be like, oh, there's holes in
Speaker 2: this puzzle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I also think, I mean, you know, we talked
Speaker 2: in the last episode with Alison about how much she
Speaker 2: enjoyed reading your book, Like, I don't think it's an
Speaker 2: accident that you know, off camera, you and I have
Speaker 2: been able to share so much about recovering from narcissistic relationships. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because when you learn to keep the piece and not
Speaker 2: even make space for what pieces might be missing from
Speaker 2: your puzzle because you got to get through the things
Speaker 2: you don't know how to turn that off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just become second nature.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's really interesting when you when you look
Speaker 2: back and you go, oh, yeah, in hindsight, I see
Speaker 2: all these things, but at the time, I just didn't
Speaker 2: see them. I literally couldn't be conscious of this because
Speaker 2: I'm used to not acknowledging this. I'm used to not
Speaker 2: acknowledging anything in the corner over there that I don't
Speaker 2: even know that. I don't look in the corner anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always moving out of a way. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't even know that I'm not looking. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a whole other level. It's a whole other level.
Speaker 4: I just it's one of the things that makes me.
Speaker 4: I'm so grateful for our show. I'm also you know,
Speaker 4: there are everybody has life experiences where it's packed full
Speaker 4: of things that you're so grateful for, and then you
Speaker 4: also realized you've learned so many lessons from because there
Speaker 4: were a lot of bad things in it too. But
Speaker 4: you know, overall, I'm so grateful that we got to
Speaker 4: have the experience that we did me too.
Speaker 2: We also think, you know, and I know we've said
Speaker 2: this before, but the cool thing about the rewatch and
Speaker 2: the time we get to spend and I don't just
Speaker 2: mean us as hosts, I mean all of us, like
Speaker 2: going to our conventions and doing this podcast together and
Speaker 2: having all the friends on it all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it it really does. I don't know, it just it
Speaker 2: gives you something back. And for me, and I know
Speaker 2: this is really common. You know, you go through you
Speaker 2: can go through a hard thing and you kind of
Speaker 2: lose certain memories. Like when you've been through a you know,
Speaker 2: a trauma or whatever, that thing becomes the biggest thing
Speaker 2: in your rear view mirror in certain ways in your brain.
Speaker 2: And what I've loved about this journey is that it's
Speaker 2: kind of right size to that stuff. It's shrunken it
Speaker 2: down to only take up the amount of space, you know,
Speaker 2: the least amount of space it should actually less space
Speaker 2: than it used to, less space than it did at
Speaker 2: the time, And it feels like it's increased. It feels
Speaker 2: like it's blown up the balloons of all our good
Speaker 2: memories to be bigger. Yeah, and I don't know that
Speaker 2: we would have had that otherwise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. I think there's a key
Speaker 4: in that of learning to appreciate suffering, which is hard
Speaker 4: because of course, in a perfect world, we don't want
Speaker 4: to suffer. We don't want anyone else to suffer. It's
Speaker 4: terrible to feel it. But when you appreciate what we're
Speaker 4: able to, what we're able to siphon out of those
Speaker 4: experiences that feel so difficult at the time, then you
Speaker 4: can put things in their proper place and you're able
Speaker 4: to appreciate all of the good things that came out
Speaker 4: of it, rather than just focused being focused perpetually on
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have had to go through that, and that
Speaker 4: was suffering, and I you know, because everybody's going to
Speaker 4: suffer at some in some capacity.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, to your point, you wouldn't wish
Speaker 2: it on anyone, including yourself. But if it's happened, being
Speaker 2: furious that it happened instead of analyzing what you learned
Speaker 2: from it, it's like you it's like picking your scab
Speaker 2: off instead of letting it heal. Yeah, And I really
Speaker 2: think it's the best. The best outcome is when you
Speaker 2: can say, yeah, I wouldn't have wished this on myself
Speaker 2: or anyone else. But here's what I learned, here's what
Speaker 2: we learned.
Speaker 4: Here's what we made you know, And you can take
Speaker 4: the positive memories and those can be the ones that
Speaker 4: you construct the new reality out of it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: kind of a weird way of saying it, because i'd
Speaker 4: obviously reality's reality. We're not making our own. But there
Speaker 4: is something in our bodies about how we relate to
Speaker 4: things that we've been through. So if you can reconnect
Speaker 4: your body to thinking of times when you experience suffering
Speaker 4: to the positive moments that were in between all those
Speaker 4: difficult times, then I feel like that's a huge win.
Speaker 4: That's like a major way that you can win over
Speaker 4: difficult circumstances.
Speaker 2: Totally, totally. Oh and it's just it's all so cool.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think it's an accident that this
Speaker 2: episode feels like this full circle of essentially the decade
Speaker 2: of our lives, and then it's making us very reflective
Speaker 2: in real time. It's like, oh, yeah, it's doing exactly
Speaker 2: what it was supposed to do.
Speaker 4: I think we were feeling a lot of that as
Speaker 4: actors too, as it came to an end because we
Speaker 4: weren't sure what was going to happen, and it really
Speaker 4: did feel like, Okay, this isn't like season four or five,
Speaker 4: like this is really We're at eight now. I think
Speaker 4: we might be done. So yeah, it's yeah, listeners. I
Speaker 4: think that's why the reflection is coming in so much,
Speaker 4: because this is how we felt the end of it. Like,
Speaker 4: what do we do with all this? Should we do
Speaker 4: a quick listener question before we wrap up?
Speaker 2: All right? What do we have?
Speaker 1: Lauren?
Speaker 4: She's saying, why do all the kids have their mother's
Speaker 4: maiden names as their first names? James, Davis Sawyer? Where
Speaker 4: did the name Jude come from? Did you guys get
Speaker 4: to have any input in the kids' names?
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? Whoa? Lauren?
Speaker 4: There's so many questions, just one of the time. Please kidding,
Speaker 4: We're kidding. I don't know why did they I guess
Speaker 4: it was just a kind of a cute little Tree
Speaker 4: Hill thing, little Tree Hill trademark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because there were so many nicknames with
Speaker 2: our last names. You know, you were always called Hailey,
Speaker 2: James and it was P. Sawyer and B. Davis, and
Speaker 2: it was a way to keep those names in the running.
Speaker 2: And then I know that Jude was a reference to
Speaker 2: you know, the famous Beatles song Hey Jude, and because
Speaker 2: it was adjacent to Julian, So since Davis would have
Speaker 2: Brooks last name, Jude was almost like a Julian junior.
Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2: But no, we never got input on the names.
Speaker 4: Definitely not No, I was a writer's room only.
Speaker 1: Well should we spin a wheel?
Speaker 4: That's been a wheel?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I wish Rob was here. This is fun. I know
Speaker 1: this is perfect.
Speaker 2: After the last episode all on miss Lauren, who's most
Speaker 2: likely to send a naughty text to the wrong person?
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly it's miss Lauren.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, we have our answer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, I don't know for all of us, who's
Speaker 4: who's clumsy enough to do that. I am neurotic about
Speaker 4: sending text messages and making sure it's the right person
Speaker 4: because I've messed up before.
Speaker 2: And no, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also just don't trust devices, like, yeah, no, that's not.
Speaker 4: Happening even Oh, I just mean even like a like
Speaker 4: an actual text message, not.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, but I'm like, you know it says
Speaker 2: a naughty text. I'm like I was doing that. Does
Speaker 2: anyone pay attention to the internet, Like, come on, guys, no, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know who would I'm trying to think in
Speaker 4: real life, but who would actually Probably Paul, one of our.
Speaker 2: Producers, just said, obviously nanny Debb.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: I could see Barbara doing that, like accidentally sending one
Speaker 4: to one of her one of her girls or something.
Speaker 2: Instead of her cute boyfriend boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Embarrassing, but you know, her daughters are so cool. They
Speaker 4: have such a great relationship. They'd be like, uh, wrong number, mom.
Speaker 2: They'd be like hot though, yeah, taking tips from mom.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Well, what's coming up next?
Speaker 7: Self?
Speaker 2: I can't believe it? Next episode? Season nine, episode one?
Speaker 2: Know this we've noticed.
Speaker 4: All right, friends, We'll see you soon. Thanks for joining
Speaker 4: us with for all of this so far up through
Speaker 4: season eight, and we'll see you next time.
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