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Speaker 1: Oh, friends, We've got a big announcement.

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Speaker 2: This is so exciting.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've gone too long without really dishing

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Speaker 3: any hot goss and I yeah, like we owe it

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Speaker 3: to the listeners today to just break them off a

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Speaker 3: juicy piece of goss.

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Speaker 2: I love it served piping hot.

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Speaker 3: He wants to be the one to open this gift.

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Speaker 4: Go on, Sophia, I see your excited smile.

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Speaker 2: I was about to be like, we all look so

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Speaker 2: excited about it. Guys, really, not only has it been

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Speaker 2: too long since we had, as Rob said, hot goss

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Speaker 2: for you, but we feel like it's been too long

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Speaker 2: since we've all been on stage with you.

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Speaker 4: So we've made some very exciting plans, and we hope

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Speaker 4: that you'll all make those plans with us. We're going

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Speaker 4: to be in Wilmington at Trick.

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Speaker 3: And we will be performing a three person production of

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Speaker 3: The Emperor's New Clothes. It'll be four hours of very

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Speaker 3: confusing acting. Now what we'd be doing there. We will

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Speaker 3: be a recording our finale episode live with all of you.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: It makes me emotional.

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Speaker 4: You said finale in my heart like broke.

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Speaker 1: That's the bitter part.

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Speaker 3: The sweet part is that we get to share it

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Speaker 3: with all the fans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, That's true.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it so special.

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Speaker 4: We love you, guys, We love all the support that

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Speaker 4: you've brought to us over the years, not just for

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Speaker 4: Drama Queens, but Winter Hill in general. I mean, you've

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Speaker 4: been with us on this ride for so long, so

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Speaker 4: we really want to celebrate the end of this part

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Speaker 4: of Drama Queens with you, and we just hope that

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Speaker 4: you'll that you'll come out. So we've had some more

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Speaker 4: details here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we will be there. Thanks to our friends who

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Speaker 2: organize the most wonderful conventions that let us all come home.

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Speaker 2: We will be doing a live show at the next

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Speaker 2: convention on Saturday, November first. It'll be at seven pm,

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Speaker 2: and as Joy mentioned, we're doing this at trick Feels correct.

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Speaker 1: Listen and it starts at seven. Who knows when it's

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Speaker 1: good end Because all three of us love to talk.

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Speaker 3: We can get we can get it, we can get

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Speaker 3: a little along with it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And it's going to be fun and none of us

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Speaker 3: want this to end, so maybe we just pull an

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Speaker 3: all nighter. I don't know, is what.

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Speaker 1: I'm lock in.

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Speaker 2: I'll lock in, Oh my God, Yes, so fun. And

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Speaker 2: it's exciting too, because getting to do this on a

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Speaker 2: convention weekend means we get to be together. It means

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Speaker 2: so many of our other castmates will be there. It

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Speaker 2: means so many of you are already coming to Wilmington.

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Speaker 2: So if you're on the fence, get off it and

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Speaker 2: book a ticket and come and join us.

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Speaker 3: Get off your fence already, Get off that fence.

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Speaker 1: Here's where you're gonna get your tickets.

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Speaker 4: It's ot H merch dot com slash Events o t

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Speaker 2: There's all sorts of tickets and packages and things, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe it turns into a lock in.

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Speaker 3: Are you a fancy listener?

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Speaker 1: Guess what?

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Speaker 3: There are VIP packages just for you.

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Speaker 2: Rob, you don't say, oh I do. So that's the finale.

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Speaker 1: It's just using.

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Speaker 3: Fun energy we're gonna be bringing to Wilmington.

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Speaker 4: What if we whispered the entire finale, if we just did.

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Speaker 3: This we did, we say, everyone get your snacks out now,

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Speaker 3: because we don't want any crinkling of paper.

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Speaker 2: It's lulla by time. Yes, guys, we don't know what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen, but we know it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: Get your tickets now, all right, SOF and I are

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Speaker 4: going to go into this episode. Rob's on set. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna run back out. We love you, We're gonna miss

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Speaker 4: see you on this one. But well, thanks for talking yea.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. By good luck out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 4: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 6: We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,

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Speaker 6: all about them.

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Speaker 5: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride and

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Speaker 5: our comic girl.

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Speaker 4: Shared for the right teams Drama, Queens Girl.

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Speaker 6: Fashion, which your tough girl, you could sit with us,

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Speaker 6: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drawn the

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Speaker 6: Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 1: Hi. Everyone, we're.

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Speaker 2: Season finale, Yes, yes, season season We're not there yet.

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Speaker 2: I am starting to like get that feeling though, that

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know this was This was emotional for

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Speaker 4: me to watch and also strange because I knew it.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not the end. But as a viewer

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Speaker 2: Know, we didn't know thought that this was going to

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Speaker 2: be it. We should also probably mention it's not that

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Speaker 2: we're not leaving any room for Rob to talk.

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Speaker 1: He's not here today.

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Speaker 2: He is filming a movie at the moment. We're very

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Speaker 2: it is the season finale.

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Speaker 4: I know, and he had so much great stuff in

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Speaker 4: this season. Well, he'll just have to wag in on

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Speaker 4: the next one at the beginning of season nine. But

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Speaker 4: for now, we've got episode twenty two, This is My House,

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Speaker 4: This is My Home, which aired in May twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: The synopsis reads, as Brooke and Haley prepare to reopen

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Speaker 2: Karen's cafe, Oh my god, it makes me so emotional.

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Speaker 2: Mayvan and Clay hit the road looking for new prospective clients. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Chase leaves for the Air Force, leaving a disappointed Alex

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Speaker 2: and Chuck behind, and Mouth and Millicent begin their new

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Speaker 4: I loved this morning show, love it so much, so

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 1: It's the best.

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Speaker 4: I'm so it was such a great idea that I

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Speaker 4: feel like we could have done so much an entire

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Speaker 4: I mean, they could have done a spin off, to

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Speaker 4: be honest, there was just so much material that could

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Speaker 4: the Treill Morning Show. We've been waiting so eight years

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they're just so good together. And I think

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Speaker 2: moment where she turns the mic over to him at

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Speaker 2: the end of the last episode and everyone obviously sobbed

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Speaker 4: He just has these perfectly poetic, such beautiful things to say,

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Speaker 4: and he pulled it off that it didn't feel scripted

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Speaker 2: It felt so nice. It was such a highlight moment

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Speaker 2: for me of the episode, you know, watching Lee and

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Speaker 2: in this perfect spot. I want this morning show in

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, And it feels you know you said this

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Speaker 4: in the previous podcast, that all of our characters feel

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Speaker 4: even surprising that she comes back. She's just like, you know, no,

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Speaker 4: you're my person. This is where I want to be.

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Speaker 4: When am I climbing a ladder that I never even

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Speaker 1: Like what for what?

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Speaker 4: I just want to be with you? And that's the

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Speaker 4: beauty of what life is about. And so much of

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Speaker 4: what our show is about is appreciating what you have

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Speaker 4: Can that just be meaningful enough?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So, like where you live, be with your people,

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Speaker 2: We are starting to see Jamie step into his young

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Speaker 2: when we first met our characters Hayley and Lucas and

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Speaker 2: Peyton and Nathan and Brooke, and they would talk about

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Speaker 4: was seven? Oh my gosh, he seems so much older

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Speaker 4: I just remember the drama of liking somebody at that age. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think. Yeah. Because also Nathan lets him go

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Speaker 2: So he might be approaching ten. So yeah, really the

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Speaker 2: and I just I don't know, it's so sweet seeing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they really brought it, brought it full circle.

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Speaker 2: So that was the really interesting thing about this episode

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Speaker 2: so you see almost the whole year go by in

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Speaker 2: I think I'm showing and he's like, you're skinny, and

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Speaker 2: when he's tracing the five month belly, he goes, look

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Speaker 2: how bad you are.

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Speaker 1: It's so sweet.

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Speaker 4: I really love I love watching Broke and Julian too.

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Speaker 4: They've gotten to a point where they're settled and where

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Speaker 4: and so it just feels like a bonus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, would you do that with your friend? Like what

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Speaker 4: I want to open up this thing, and like your

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is like my dream. I wanted Anthropology to

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Speaker 1: They never do. But this is better because there's food.

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Speaker 1: And is that ABC in New York? Have you been

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Speaker 2: There's like, yeah, ABC has their furniture store and then their.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's great.

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Speaker 4: I love that spot that there's two restaurants now it's

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Speaker 4: So now you can go to one one on the

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Speaker 4: It makes me think of Lily's Market, the Little Market

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Speaker 1: But she was this.

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Speaker 4: That's been a little fantasy of mine one day to

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Speaker 2: I just think it's so cool. My girlfriend Lauren did

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna be in Chicago next weekend.

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Speaker 4: I would show up for your shop, whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see whenever he carried. That would

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Speaker 2: I would love it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we have to talk about speaking of Karen's Cafe Monomena.

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Speaker 2: What was the deal?

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Speaker 1: What in the world?

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Speaker 4: Why I remember us all being so confused, even James,

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Speaker 4: I just could not wrap my brain around why in

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Speaker 2: the high five, the toaster pastry, the monomena. I'm like,

444
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: what is this?

445
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

446
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: It was so strange, and it wasn't just like fifteen

447
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 4: seconds of it. It was the entire song. I just

448
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 4: remember all of us being so confused. Even on the

449
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: day we were shooting. We were there on set and

450
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: James is doing it and I was like, what what

451
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: I think? He was just like, I don't know, let's

452
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: just get it over with like fine.

453
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just don't get it. And it's weird,

454
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: the sort of back and forth, you know, the stuff

455
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: that you can feel there's weird energy underneath, and then

456
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: the stuff that feels so pure, you know, as we're

457
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: watching Brooke go through this pregnancy and her and Julian

458
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: are so happy, and then the reviews come in for

459
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: his movie, Oh that was so sweet, and they're so beautiful.

460
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: There's such beautiful moments in the last episode. In this episode,

461
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: the writing really is phenomenal, and I'm just like, how

462
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: does how does this all exist in the same episode?

463
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: What's happening?

464
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 4: And of all the things that they had, all the

465
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: material they had, like I would have taken two minutes

466
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: of Mouth and Millie hands down over Nathan doing monomena,

467
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: Like we already know he's a great dad.

468
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: We have no need.

469
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: It's not furthering the story anymore. It's not getting us anywhere.

470
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: I just don't know why it was written.

471
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: It would have been just as easy to have him

472
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: up on that stage with Lydia in that little baby

473
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: born taking the mic and being like are you going

474
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: to sing like your mom? Are you going to be

475
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: a singer like your mom.

476
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you watched it shot yeah, yeah, two.

477
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: Seconds a durable move on.

478
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: Maybe it was like one of those things like the

479
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: doggying the Heart where it's so ridiculous that the hope

480
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: was that it would get on the soup exactly, that

481
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: it would get on the soup, that it would get

482
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: like a little publicity for being so ridiculous. But at

483
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: least then eyeballs. Then the name of the show is

484
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: out there. I don't know.

485
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

486
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 4: I wish James was here, but he would still be

487
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: classy about it even if he.

488
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Was here, so he totally would be like, oh, it

489
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: was fine.

490
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, next, let's talk about something else.

491
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

492
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 4: I love that toad the Wet Sprocket song that they

493
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: let me sing.

494
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: But why do they let me play guitar?

495
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: I am not a guitar player, Like I play enough

496
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: to just sort of, you know, get across an idea something,

497
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: But then you hire in real people. I have no

498
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: I I'm watching that, like, why why did they let

499
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: me actually play guitar? It's so bad? Why didn't they

500
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: just bring.

501
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: Somebody else in? It was so mad?

502
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: But it was fun to sing that because I did

503
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: love that song. I loved that song in high school.

504
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: I did too. I thought it was so good. It

505
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: was a nice It did feel like a nice I

506
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: don't know, throwback in a way. Yeah, and the sort

507
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: of some of the music being a little older and

508
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: then something's feeling really fresh. It just again it all,

509
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: it all really feels like it's coming full circle, which

510
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: is interesting because then we do thirteen more episodes.

511
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so strange.

512
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I will say, speaking of the music, I

513
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: was really glad we were back to Gavin for the

514
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: theme song you too.

515
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 7: Oh.

516
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: I've been skipping the intro for so every weeks because.

517
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: I just can't. I can't either, I just can't do it.

518
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: So it was really nice to have the song that

519
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: we know and that imprinted on our show back.

520
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: It was like taking a deep breath of relief when

521
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: I heard his voice come on.

522
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Me too, like oh, thank god.

523
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I also really liked that when we

524
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: got to Mouth and Millie in the morning and we

525
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: had had this beautiful moment knowing that Julian's movie you

526
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: Know is being so well reviewed. It's it all feels

527
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: like this kind of ground swell of excitement and then

528
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: it cuts to them and Alex's movie's coming out and

529
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: they're getting to talk about it on the air, and

530
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: then Janna's song is under it. Yeah, it all was

531
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: just so great.

532
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Is this a movie we watched him shoot? Or am I? Yeah?

533
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: This is his This is his Alex Duprey movie. We

534
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: saw Sundance, but now it's coming out in theaters.

535
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, the Alex and Chase of it all.

536
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: Let's talk about them. Realistic not realistic? Are you sad

537
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: that he didn't choose Mia or she didn't choose him?

538
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know.

539
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

540
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: I think I do really think that Jana and Steven

541
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: are so great together and I just really enjoy watching them.

542
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: And I think for Mia and Chase to have been together,

543
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: she might have had to change her life in a

544
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: way that I don't want her to. I don't want

545
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: her to give up on touring and all the things,

546
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, despite how sweet they are together as well,

547
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Like there's something about the Alex and Chase that is

548
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: sticky for a reason, and I think that they're sweet.

549
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Scene I mean, him saying meet me right here a

550
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: year from today was so lovely.

551
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. That was really sweet.

552
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

553
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: I still I still as much as they do have

554
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: good cam Janna and Stephen are great. I don't like Alex. Oh,

555
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: I just don't like Alex, right. I don't believe her

556
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: that she's changed at ever. She's like Dan, she just

557
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: is constantly. I don't know. This is a character who

558
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: is who has more often than not looked out for

559
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: themselves and adjusted their personality and her uh herself to

560
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: whatever it is that she actually wants to get. Rather

561
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: than just maintaining a consistent personality, a consistent character like

562
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: not character acting character, like a person, your your character

563
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: within you, she hasn't maintained any consistency in that regard,

564
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: and I just don't trust her and I don't like her.

565
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, everybody.

566
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean listen, I think I get it, and

567
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: I guess I'm part of me is like, oh do

568
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: I am I personalizing that I like Jana, you know,

569
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: to love Alex maybe a little. I don't know, but

570
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: I think there's there is there's always we always have

571
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: an ability to understand characters, you know, on shows. Sometimes

572
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: I think even better than we understand people because we

573
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: watch the characters, we watch them try to grow, we

574
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: watch them fail, we see them in moments we don't

575
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: see our friends or our family or whatever.

576
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point.

577
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: But I also hear, especially because we're watching episode to episode,

578
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: like you've got a list, You've got a list of

579
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: Alex's screw ups that you can't get over right there

580
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: in your brain. And yeah, it's interesting.

581
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if she, if she was remorseful, if we

582
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: actually got to see some apologies and some real like

583
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: growth and not just an apology, but actually like making

584
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: real changes, I feel like maybe I could obviously I

585
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: would make space, but.

586
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just yeah. Yeah, But you're right

587
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: that we.

588
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: Do watch characters differently than we watch each other because

589
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: we know it's only for a limited time. You can

590
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: watch every move, every detail, Yeah, unsupervised, and you know

591
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: that you're being taught a lesson in some way, you're

592
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: being told a story, and.

593
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: You understand they're shortcomings in ways that we often don't

594
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: understand people's shortcomings in the world because we don't we

595
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: don't really get to see people struggle the way we

596
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: get to see our TV characters struggle.

597
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You're not there in private moments in

598
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: real life, but a camera can follow a character into

599
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: a private.

600
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So I don't know. It's interesting. On the

601
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: one hand, Yes, when you list Alex's discretions, I'm like, oh,

602
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, but she's trying so hard and

603
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: she's growing and we're watching it happen, and yeah, it's

604
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: interesting to kind of have the push and pull the character.

605
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: That would be.

606
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: So I want to start thinking about that with people

607
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 4: in my real life, Like if there was a camera

608
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: following them into private moments, what would that look like?

609
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: Because I don't share mine very often. Like I don't

610
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: often call a friend in a private moment because I

611
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: don't know why. I don't know, I just don't. It's

612
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: like I don't want to burden people or I don't want.

613
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: To like.

614
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: Be an interruption or an annoyance, and I know how

615
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: neurotic I can be, and so I just want to

616
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: deal with it on my own. Yeah, but if I

617
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: had a friend who was in a private moment and

618
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: reached out to me, I'd be I'm happy to I

619
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: love that, Like I want to help and participate or

620
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: just be a listening, ear or whatever. Why is it

621
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: like so much harder to I don't know, to write out.

622
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: I did this the other night with my best girlfriend

623
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: from junior high in high school. The thing going on said, hey,

624
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: can you talk? Took us two nights to both have

625
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, be home across time zones and in the

626
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: right moments. And we sat on the phone for two

627
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: hours and she walked me through all these things that

628
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: she has going on, and I I then obviously we

629
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: were just in conversation. I told her a bunch of things,

630
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: and some of it she was like, wait, I didn't

631
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: know this and I and it was exactly that realization.

632
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: She was like, honey, pick up the phone. I'm always here,

633
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: you know, to listen or whatever. And I just thought, yeah,

634
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I always worry that if I

635
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: have something going on, I'm taking up someone else's time.

636
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

637
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I never feel like anyone's taking up my time.

638
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: It's an honor to be there.

639
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

640
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: So it is interesting that we it's interesting that we

641
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: want to love people in ways we don't often let

642
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: people love us.

643
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: And then yeah, absolutely, And then you know, I've got

645
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: nothing to complain about if I feel like my you know,

646
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: my friends don't know me as well as I want

647
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: them to because I'm the one that's preventing that. Like

648
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm the one that's that's got the wall up, and

649
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: it's just it's so hard to be it's so hard

650
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: to be vulnerable. So maybe that's why we love our

651
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: TV characters because we feel.

652
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Like but also that's what I was just going to say.

653
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting when we look back at what

654
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: rewatching this show has been, like, so much of what

655
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: we enjoy about it is the way our characters communicate

656
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: with each.

657
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Other totally totally. I know, it's kind of I want that.

658
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 4: I always I always like, I want that so bad,

659
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: but it's hard.

660
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard.

661
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 4: It's harder in real life, like when it's in a script,

662
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 4: you can say something that is yeah, outrageous or offensive

663
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 4: or whatever, and the other person is just like they'll

664
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: just blow back up at you and you have it

665
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 4: out and then they you know, you're fine. But in

666
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: real life, everybody just keeps their mouth shut most of

667
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: the time. They're like okay, and then they walk away

668
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: and they're like, well now I know, and then they

669
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: just never follow up. And never like you. I want

670
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: to be challenged. I want to be like engaged with

671
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: in that way. But I don't know that I do

672
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: that very often with people either, I will. It depends

673
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: on how close we are, I guess I think that's

674
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: part of it. It depends on how close you are

675
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: with somebody. Maybe I don't know if that's making any sense.

676
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a ramble.

677
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it does, and I especially

678
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: think I mean, listen, it can all depend right on

679
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: what context. You know people, and you know how long

680
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: you've been friends. But it's like, think about all the

681
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: iterations over the last years we've been through with each other.

682
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

683
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: And and there's always still a moment after however, many

684
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: years at a time where you're like, we can still

685
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: go this deep though, right, like are we going to

686
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: challenge each other on this thing? Are we gonna? And

687
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe it's just very human to be

688
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: a little scared. Yeah, but like you push through it,

689
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you have to, or.

690
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: You just won't.

691
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: Like there's just no way to give and receive love

692
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: for real, because there's no actual safety there. You don't

693
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: know for sure if it's safe because you never actually

694
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: pushed to find out, but I love that to bring

695
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: it full circle. I think the thing that connects me

696
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 4: about that with our show is that we in a way,

697
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: I think we're able to model that for so many

698
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: and like the having that modeled, even for me as

699
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 4: a person, having that model by performing that with other

700
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: characters in a weird meta sort of way really was

701
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: helpful and informative, and I think one of the things

702
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: that made people love our show so much and makes

703
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: all of these moments in this last episode feel like

704
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: such a payoff because everybody's been through all those private

705
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: moments with us and they feel it too.

706
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 2: I think so too. And you know what it really

707
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm realizing in real time as we're talking about it,

708
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: not on camera, but on set, there is an expectation

709
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: that you won't rock the boat, oh totally. You have

710
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: to keep it pushing, you have to keep it professional.

711
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: So you do learn, especially young and especially when you

712
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: grew up on those set like ours, where things were

713
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: changing all the time and no one was really talking

714
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: about a lot of it, you kind of learn to

715
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: just show up and be good and you're on eggshells

716
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: a little about like are we going to acknowledge this,

717
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: are we not We're not okay, We're just going to

718
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 2: do the work today. And so I actually think being

719
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: a young actor who works as regularly as we were

720
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: all working at the time, you can learn to not

721
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: ever bring anything up.

722
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you learn to just process things on your own

723
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: because it's too risky. You risk it's too risky the

724
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: tayos or piece of an entire production.

725
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: Yep, and it might waste people's time and whatever. So

726
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: you just keep everything at work for work. But then

727
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: you don't really learn to talk to each other in

728
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: the ways that people who don't have to perform on

729
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: set do. And so I think it's also really interesting

730
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: for us. You know, you learn in therapy that you

731
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: carry all your younger versions of yourself in you, right,

732
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: So in a really interesting way as adults, we are

733
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: learning some of the quiet that we learned in real

734
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: time when we were filming the show, and we're learning

735
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: it watching how well we could communicate on camera in

736
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: the ways we were never encouraged to off camera. And yeah,

737
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: because on camera, off camera after the show rapped, Yeah,

738
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, because on camera there's no stakes, there's no

739
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: real stakes you can play with the emotion of feeling uncertain,

740
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: but you know for sure, like I'm gonna put this.

741
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: This scene away and go home and have a real

742
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: life how the episode's going to end, right, right, Whereas

743
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: in real life you don't know.

744
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: You don't know anything.

745
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just have to.

746
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's a really fair point. And we

747
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: learned a lot of that and we've had to we

748
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: have to. I'm still unlearning that.

749
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: I mean me too, But I really think about, like

750
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: think about the way all of our friendships changed after

751
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: the show finally wrapped. Yeah, you know, like things got

752
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: deeper for people after everybody got to like take a

753
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: b and then reunite in real life. And so it's

754
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: interesting to me now it's almost like the third point

755
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: of the triangle, Like we did it and we learned

756
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: to be quiet, and we learned to perform above all else,

757
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: and then we got a break and then we all

758
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: got to reconnect in real life, and now our real

759
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: life and our performance we're tying them together and going,

760
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, which is why doing this podcast is

761
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: kind of like doing therapy for us.

762
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: Yes, a thousand percent.

763
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: And you know the weird thing is too, that's such

764
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: a messes with your mind that when you're on a

765
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: set for that long and doing that performative communication. As

766
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: you're talking about, we learned how to connect with each

767
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 4: other as a sort of surface version of each other

768
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: because you couldn't go so deep as to rock the boat.

769
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 4: So we had to sort of construct these ideas about

770
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: who each other were and relate to that in order

771
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: to keep the peace. And so there was like an

772
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: element of knowing each other but also not not also

773
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: the real depth. Yeah, so then it's like getting to

774
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: know someone that you're supposed to have actually, like, we've

775
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: known each other for twenty years, but how much of

776
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: each other have we known for twenty years?

777
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: Exactly?

778
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: Trying to dive back and figure out, like, what are

779
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: the pieces here that are missing to fill in the

780
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: whole picture.

781
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start to be like, oh, there's holes in

782
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: this puzzle.

783
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

784
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: And I also think, I mean, you know, we talked

785
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: in the last episode with Alison about how much she

786
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: enjoyed reading your book, Like, I don't think it's an

787
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: accident that you know, off camera, you and I have

788
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: been able to share so much about recovering from narcissistic relationships. Yeah,

789
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: because when you learn to keep the piece and not

790
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 2: even make space for what pieces might be missing from

791
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: your puzzle because you got to get through the things

792
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: you don't know how to turn that off.

793
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, just become second nature.

794
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's really interesting when you when you look

795
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: back and you go, oh, yeah, in hindsight, I see

796
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: all these things, but at the time, I just didn't

797
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: see them. I literally couldn't be conscious of this because

798
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm used to not acknowledging this. I'm used to not

799
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: acknowledging anything in the corner over there that I don't

800
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: even know that. I don't look in the corner anymore.

801
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always moving out of a way. Oh yeah,

802
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: I don't even know that I'm not looking. You know,

803
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: it's a whole other level. It's a whole other level.

804
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: I just it's one of the things that makes me.

805
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm so grateful for our show. I'm also you know,

806
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: there are everybody has life experiences where it's packed full

807
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: of things that you're so grateful for, and then you

808
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: also realized you've learned so many lessons from because there

809
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: were a lot of bad things in it too. But

810
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: you know, overall, I'm so grateful that we got to

811
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: have the experience that we did me too.

812
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: We also think, you know, and I know we've said

813
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: this before, but the cool thing about the rewatch and

814
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: the time we get to spend and I don't just

815
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: mean us as hosts, I mean all of us, like

816
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: going to our conventions and doing this podcast together and

817
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: having all the friends on it all the time. Yeah,

818
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: it it really does. I don't know, it just it

819
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: gives you something back. And for me, and I know

820
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: this is really common. You know, you go through you

821
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: can go through a hard thing and you kind of

822
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: lose certain memories. Like when you've been through a you know,

823
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: a trauma or whatever, that thing becomes the biggest thing

824
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: in your rear view mirror in certain ways in your brain.

825
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 2: And what I've loved about this journey is that it's

826
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: kind of right size to that stuff. It's shrunken it

827
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: down to only take up the amount of space, you know,

828
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: the least amount of space it should actually less space

829
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: than it used to, less space than it did at

830
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: the time, And it feels like it's increased. It feels

831
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: like it's blown up the balloons of all our good

832
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: memories to be bigger. Yeah, and I don't know that

833
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: we would have had that otherwise.

834
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. I think there's a key

835
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: in that of learning to appreciate suffering, which is hard

836
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: because of course, in a perfect world, we don't want

837
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: to suffer. We don't want anyone else to suffer. It's

838
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: terrible to feel it. But when you appreciate what we're

839
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: able to, what we're able to siphon out of those

840
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: experiences that feel so difficult at the time, then you

841
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: can put things in their proper place and you're able

842
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 4: to appreciate all of the good things that came out

843
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: of it, rather than just focused being focused perpetually on

844
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have had to go through that, and that

845
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: was suffering, and I you know, because everybody's going to

846
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: suffer at some in some capacity.

847
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: Well.

848
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: And the thing is, to your point, you wouldn't wish

849
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: it on anyone, including yourself. But if it's happened, being

850
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: furious that it happened instead of analyzing what you learned

851
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: from it, it's like you it's like picking your scab

852
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: off instead of letting it heal. Yeah, And I really

853
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: think it's the best. The best outcome is when you

854
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: can say, yeah, I wouldn't have wished this on myself

855
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: or anyone else. But here's what I learned, here's what

856
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: we learned.

857
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: Here's what we made you know, And you can take

858
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: the positive memories and those can be the ones that

859
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: you construct the new reality out of it. Yeah, that's

860
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 4: kind of a weird way of saying it, because i'd

861
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: obviously reality's reality. We're not making our own. But there

862
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 4: is something in our bodies about how we relate to

863
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: things that we've been through. So if you can reconnect

864
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: your body to thinking of times when you experience suffering

865
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: to the positive moments that were in between all those

866
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: difficult times, then I feel like that's a huge win.

867
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: That's like a major way that you can win over

868
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 4: difficult circumstances.

869
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: Totally, totally. Oh and it's just it's all so cool.

870
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think it's an accident that this

871
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: episode feels like this full circle of essentially the decade

872
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: of our lives, and then it's making us very reflective

873
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: in real time. It's like, oh, yeah, it's doing exactly

874
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: what it was supposed to do.

875
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: I think we were feeling a lot of that as

876
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: actors too, as it came to an end because we

877
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: weren't sure what was going to happen, and it really

878
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: did feel like, Okay, this isn't like season four or five,

879
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: like this is really We're at eight now. I think

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00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: we might be done. So yeah, it's yeah, listeners. I

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Speaker 4: think that's why the reflection is coming in so much,

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Speaker 4: because this is how we felt the end of it. Like,

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Speaker 4: what do we do with all this? Should we do

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Speaker 4: a quick listener question before we wrap up?

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Speaker 2: All right? What do we have?

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Speaker 1: Lauren?

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Speaker 4: She's saying, why do all the kids have their mother's

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Speaker 4: maiden names as their first names? James, Davis Sawyer? Where

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Speaker 4: did the name Jude come from? Did you guys get

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Speaker 4: to have any input in the kids' names?

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? Whoa? Lauren?

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Speaker 4: There's so many questions, just one of the time. Please kidding,

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Speaker 4: We're kidding. I don't know why did they I guess

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Speaker 4: it was just a kind of a cute little Tree

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Speaker 4: Hill thing, little Tree Hill trademark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because there were so many nicknames with

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Speaker 2: our last names. You know, you were always called Hailey,

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Speaker 2: James and it was P. Sawyer and B. Davis, and

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Speaker 2: it was a way to keep those names in the running.

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Speaker 2: And then I know that Jude was a reference to

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Speaker 2: you know, the famous Beatles song Hey Jude, and because

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Speaker 2: it was adjacent to Julian, So since Davis would have

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Speaker 2: Brooks last name, Jude was almost like a Julian junior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But no, we never got input on the names.

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Speaker 4: Definitely not No, I was a writer's room only.

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Speaker 1: Well should we spin a wheel?

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Speaker 4: That's been a wheel?

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00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I wish Rob was here. This is fun. I know

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Speaker 1: this is perfect.

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Speaker 2: After the last episode all on miss Lauren, who's most

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Speaker 2: likely to send a naughty text to the wrong person?

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly it's miss Lauren.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, we have our answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, I don't know for all of us, who's

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Speaker 4: who's clumsy enough to do that. I am neurotic about

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Speaker 4: sending text messages and making sure it's the right person

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Speaker 4: because I've messed up before.

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Speaker 2: And no, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also just don't trust devices, like, yeah, no, that's not.

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Speaker 4: Happening even Oh, I just mean even like a like

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Speaker 4: an actual text message, not.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, but I'm like, you know it says

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Speaker 2: a naughty text. I'm like I was doing that. Does

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Speaker 2: anyone pay attention to the internet, Like, come on, guys, no, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who would I'm trying to think in

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Speaker 4: real life, but who would actually Probably Paul, one of our.

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Speaker 2: Producers, just said, obviously nanny Debb.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I could see Barbara doing that, like accidentally sending one

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Speaker 4: to one of her one of her girls or something.

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Speaker 2: Instead of her cute boyfriend boyfriend.

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Speaker 4: Embarrassing, but you know, her daughters are so cool. They

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Speaker 4: have such a great relationship. They'd be like, uh, wrong number, mom.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like hot though, yeah, taking tips from mom.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's coming up next?

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Speaker 7: Self?

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it? Next episode? Season nine, episode one?

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Speaker 2: Know this we've noticed.

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Speaker 4: All right, friends, We'll see you soon. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 4: us with for all of this so far up through

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Speaker 4: season eight, and we'll see you next time.

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