1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Add the newsom Eric de Costa scouts there. They have 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: a very very good system. They have a good way 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: to mesh with John Harbaugh. I wouldn't care if both 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: those teams went two and fourteen this year. I would 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: want to go to a Steelers Ravens game the following year. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Everybody should have this on their bucket list before they die. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Visit Athens, Ohio. Welcome into the lounge. I'm Ryan Mink 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: and I'm Garret Downing, and it's been a busy last 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: week here, super busy. There's a lot happening. Players come in, 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: players going Yeah. I get home and my wife's like, oh, man, 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: what happened at work? I'm like, what didn't happen to work? 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Getting home at eight o'clock, She's like, man, why are 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: you getting homes ablieable baby free agency. I'm telling you 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: it's insane. Pulling over on the side of the road 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the right stories on my way home from work. You 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: probably thought you were safe. You thought that Friday afternoon, 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: after the craziness of the day, you had Tony Jefferson 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: didn't here, you had Dinny Woodhead in here. Driving home, 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: you feel good? Yeah, No, no such thing. Dennis pit 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: on news breaks. Let me, let me, let's tell the 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: viewers here, So we split up on call duty, basically 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: nighttime duty for the Star Free Agency. You took I 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: took Thursday? No? How did no? Wednesday? Yeah? I took Wednesday, 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: which like like the period the window opened on Tuesday 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: where teams can start negotiating. Right, all's quiet on the 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: Ravens front Tuesday, right, thinking like, all right, they're just 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna wait till Thursday or whatever. Wednesday, I got nighttime duty. Literally, 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm playing pick up basketball in my little game. Here 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: see the stuff come across my phone. I'm like, oh crap. 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Literally run out of the gym, back to my house. 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm righting until like eleven, which I'm a father of 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: a one year old right now, I shouldn't be up 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: past ten o'clock. That's night, night time. I go to 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: bed at eleven, literally crawl into bed, do one last 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: check of the phone. Oh you gotta be kidding me, 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett, gotta get my butt up out of bed, 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: go back down right another it was two stories. It 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: was Ryan Mallett and what else June Jefferson. That was 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson. Unbelievable it was kind of ridiculous. So yeah, 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: and then and then the next day you're on call. Yeah, 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I was on calling Thursday, and I don't think any 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: news bro, nothing one thing did happen either way. And 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: then I was on call writer for the weekend. Now, look, 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: but I don't really feel too sorry for you, because 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: I was just coming off like a thirteen day straight 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: work week after having been in the combine and putting 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: in long days there. So I think it all kind 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: of worked itself out in the wash. Well, and I 49 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: still got I got my io you back from whooping 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: your button many corn hole, so that we'll push that 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: down the one. Yeah, we don't need to get into that. 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: We have we have free agency news to discuss, uh. 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: And we also have Peter King who joined the podcast 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: from of the mm QB, one of the premier NFL 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: reporters out there, and he shows a really good perspective 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: perspective about the Ravens. But before we do that, got 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: an email to read. Yes, you know, one way to 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: get your email right on the air is if you 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: make fun of one of us, and so that's what Jim. Uh. 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: It is better to be making funny than you Kane wrote, 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: he wrote, how are you Mr Downing? That's another great 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: way to get your email, right, Mr. And the other 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: guy I think his name is Wink or something like. First, 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: let me say Ozzy would never trade Garrett down and 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: he's the glue that holds the launch together. Yeah, he's 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: just straight cut, straight a man, Jim knows. Second, are 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: you planning to get coach har on the podcast or 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: just make afraid of our head coach? Yes, and yes 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: we are going to get hard. We're gonna get harms 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: on here. And no, I'm not afraid of hard. Seriously, 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: I love the podcast and I have not missed one yet. 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Both of you guys are great and make the podcast 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: what it is, which is the best podcast on the planet. 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Even though I would never let make plan a Thanksgiving 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: dinner for me. Love you guys, Christmas cookie exchange. No, 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, he doesn't say, but a great email. 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate hearing that. So um. If you guys have 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: questions or comments that you want to send to us, 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: we always we read every single email that comes into 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We reply 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to most why you should emails again to say, where 82 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: the hell is my reply? We read them all, reply 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: to most, but with no further ado. Let's welcome in 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Peter King from the m m QB. Peter appreciated time, 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And just to start things off here, 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the Ravens, they're spending a lot 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: of money right now in free agency and bringing Brat back, 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams signing Tony Jefferson, Danny Woodhead. What do you 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: make of all the moves that Ravens have made early 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: in free agency? Well, was interesting, Garrett, because very often 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens are on the giving end of free agency, 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: not the getting. And but I think a couple of 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: he's at least to me, make a tremendous amount of sense. 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: In fact, all three of them do to me. I 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: think one of the things that the Ravens have realized 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: now is they need another offensive weapon out of the backfield. 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: And you know, certainly you value Kyle, you check, but 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: you know there's no way you're going to get involved 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: for anywhere near that money because he's not going to 100 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: be in that offense what I think he's going to 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: be for Kyle Shanahan. Now, I do think that Danny Woodhead, 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: and again it all depends how he comes back from surgery. 103 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: But I think Danny Woodhead has been one of the 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: real underrated players. He's not Darren Sprowles, but he is 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: an impact player out of the backfield the way that uh, 106 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, the way that the Ravens really want one 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: both you know, as a receive and as a runner. 108 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: I think with Brandon Williams, look, you've got to have 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: in the a f C. North. You've just got to 110 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: have a premier run player in the middle of that line. 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: So I get that. I'm sure that you know, the 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Ravens really blanched paying what they had to pay for him, 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: but you've got to have them. And then I think 114 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson, if you ask, if you go back and 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: ask Todd Bowles, you know who used to be the 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in Arizona and who sort of invented this 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: system of safety is playing down as as basically you 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: know linebackers, um, you know he in and he had 119 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: three or four of those guys Day owned Buchanan, uh, Tyrone, 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Uh. Tony Jefferson, I mean, you've you have to 121 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: realize the difference that he can mean to the back 122 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: end of a defense, and I think that you know that. 123 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: To me, I mean, I really like what they've done 124 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot, and again it isn't what the Ravens usually do, 125 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: But I've had this feeling about that front office for 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: a long time. You know, Ozzy knew some Eric toa costa. 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, the scouts there, they have a very very 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: good system. And the other thing I think they have 129 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: is they have a good way to mesh with John Harbaugh, 130 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh knows what he wants, and uh, Ozzy 131 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: and the scouting staff do a good job of caring 132 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's desires with the actions that they take. So so far, 133 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: so good at least, you know, on paper to me 134 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: in this offseason for them, Peter, it's Ryan here and uh, 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I guess one question is you know, the Ravens have 136 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: always been a team that has built through the draft 137 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of the years. Like you said, they're used to watching 138 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: guys who they draft leave more often than signing guys. 139 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: And oftentimes what you hear is, well, the teams who 140 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: make big splashes early in free agency necessarily aren't the 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: winners and by the end of the season. So how 142 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: do you see. You know, I I agree, I like 143 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: the Jefferson in the Woodhead signings, But I guess what 144 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: does it say about the Ravens that they are in 145 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: a position now where they're making these big splashes. See, 146 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the Woodheads signing is is uh. I mean, 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead is not a big ticket free agent. He's 148 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to fill a role for this team, 149 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: uh at a cost is commensurate with what he is 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: going to deliver. So I wouldn't be too concerned about Woodhead. 151 00:08:53,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, signing a run stopper m you know, 152 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: for for the money that they paid, you know, really 153 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: makes you do a double take in a triple take. 154 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: And usually that is the kind of player that the 155 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Ravens let go and then they take the compensatory pick. 156 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: They'll take a third or fourth rounder in the following 157 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: year's draft. But I think they felt like we need 158 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: in a division where you know, we're playing uh levy 159 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: on Bell and de' angelo Williams twice a year, and 160 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, uh Jeremy Hill and Giovanni Bernard uh and 161 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Isaiah crowell Um. You're playing those guys six out of 162 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: your sixteen games, and do not underestimate, by the way, 163 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: how Cleveland is going to be able to run the 164 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: ball next year, because I think they're gonna be really 165 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: really good running the ball with that offensive line up 166 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: grade they've had. So, I mean, I think it's different, 167 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: but it's very very understandable to me this year. Peter. 168 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: One thing, you know, you just did an interview with 169 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh on your podcast. You caught up with him 170 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: at the combine, and one thing that I thought was 171 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: interesting in that conversation with him is that he said, 172 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: to some degree, everything that the Ravens do is is 173 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: sort of to beat Pittsburgh, to beat New England. You know, 174 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: you kind of make your moves with those teams in 175 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: mind in terms of how you can beat them. So 176 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: if my question is how close do you think the 177 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: Ravens are two again to again being a team that 178 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: can win the division, they can beat New England in 179 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, that's the question that I think 180 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: everybody asked they you know, to me, I think the 181 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Ravens kind of remind me of what the Raiders or 182 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: the Oilers were in the h in the seventies, when 183 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: they were always sort of they had really good teams, 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: but they're always sort of chasing the Steelers. I mean, 185 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: the Lads caught him once, but you know, basically it 186 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: was one of these deals that you know, the Steelers 187 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: of the seventies are what the Patriots are now, and 188 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and I just feel like when you talk about how 189 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: close they are, I think I think there are two 190 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: things that really separate New England now, and it's the 191 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: ultimate consistency in the passing game that makes them very, 192 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: very hard to catch. And by that I mean that 193 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: no matter who is catching the ball for Tom Brady 194 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: um that year after year after year, that they are 195 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: prolific in the passing game, and that, to me, in 196 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: today's football, is where you have to be Now. I 197 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: look at both Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and obviously Joe Flacco 198 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: needs to play more consistent. He just needs to play 199 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: better than he played this year. But I think part 200 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: of that, what the Ravens saw is that part of 201 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: that is they want to have him throwing more. Uh, 202 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: like we're wheel routes out of the backfield. That's one 203 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: of the wood That's one of the reasons for Woodhead. 204 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: But that's one thing. And then I think the other 205 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: part of it is, you know, if you look at 206 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: the way the game is played today, what you really 207 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: need and need kind of desperately, is you need to 208 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: have those guys in the secondary who offensive coordinators say, man, 209 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: we really need to watch out for. You know, we 210 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: need to game plan for Wettle and Jefferson and Jimmy 211 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Smith and and and and you know. So that to 212 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: me is another big part of why the Patriots have 213 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: been so good, because maybe you don't recognize the names 214 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: all the time back in their secondary, but with the 215 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: exception of a couple of years, maybe four and five 216 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: years ago, they really have played well in the back end. 217 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: And now again them going out and getting Stefon Gilmore, who, well, 218 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit overrated. I wasn't crazy 219 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: about that signing or the money New England paid for him. 220 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: But my guests, they are probably gonna lose Malcolm Butler, 221 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: and if they lose Malcolm Butler, you need to have 222 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: somebody back there to replace him. We was speaking of 223 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: beating the Steelers and stuff in the playoffs. You know, 224 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: I'm reminded by about one story with you and John 225 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Harball when the Ravens beat the Steelers the Cup, and 226 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: you guys are walking off the field afterwards, everybody's doing handshakes, 227 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and John said to you something to the effect of, Peter, 228 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: did you pick us? And you were honest and you 229 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: told him though, and he kind of he kind of 230 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: gave you a little smirk and said, hey, you never 231 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: do you remember that one? You know, of course? And 232 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I remember, you know what I remember after the Raids 233 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: beat after the Ravens beat San Francisco and the Super 234 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Bowl first shot out of the box. I walked in 235 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, and Suggs sees me 236 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: and he goes, you didn't pick us, did you? I said? 237 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: And I think he was really ticked off that I 238 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: picked him because he wanted to gloat. That's That's really 239 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: a lot of teams look HARDBA realizes this that and 240 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and look, I go back. Ever since I've been covering football, 241 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: I'll never forget Bill Walsh. Back in the eighties, Randy 242 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Cross told me this one time that Bill Walsh used 243 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: to tell his teams, we love going on the road. 244 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: It is the coolest thing to have fifty three guys 245 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: go into a place, a city of three or four 246 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: million people, everybody you know cheering for the home team, 247 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: everybody you know for three hours. Life stops in this 248 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: town where where you you invade on a Sunday afternoon. 249 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: And how great is it that fifty three people can 250 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: beat three million and and and and I mean that's 251 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: that is as old as the Hills, really, and I 252 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: think it's I mean, everybody after that happened, it was 253 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Everybody said, wow, hardball really pissed at you, 254 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: and boy, you guys, you guys must must not get 255 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: along or whatever, and I just said, I honestly, I'm 256 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of honored, you know that would care that he 257 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: would care who I picked. And but anyway, it was 258 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of a funny moment. I think coaches, yeah, gleg 259 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: you said, coaches and players like care about that stuff 260 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot more. And especially I feel like in Baltimore, 261 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: where like bat we've always kind of had that underdog 262 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: like us against the world. Nobody gives us the respect 263 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: on of mantra. Yeah, well, I think it's natural too, 264 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: when you know, when the Ravens first came to Baltimore. Look, 265 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Pittsburgh had been good since the middle seventies 266 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: and except for a few hiccups there for a while. Uh, 267 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: they've always been good. I mean they've been good for 268 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: forty years basically mostly. And I think that any time 269 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: that you're in the division with the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, 270 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: that's a great little Uh, that's a great franchise to 271 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: aim at, you know, for so that so that any coach, 272 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean I I I did talk to John Harbaugh 273 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: on this podcast about the Patriots, but I could have 274 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: easily talked to him for twenty minutes about the Steelers too, 275 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: because I think that John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Uh, you 276 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: know that's that's Tom Landry, John Madden. Are you know 277 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: Truck Nole, John Matt You know, it's it's a great 278 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: it's a great. Uh. You've got to still young coaches, 279 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, at the top of two great franchises. And 280 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: every year, I mean, if you give me the choice 281 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: at the beginning of every year, you say, okay, you 282 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: can go to X number of games this year, I 283 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't care if both those teams went two and fourteen 284 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: this year. I would want to go to a Steelers 285 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Ravens game. The following year. Well, Peter will let you go. 286 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: But before I do. I need you to help me 287 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of settle the dispute here that I had with Ryan. Peter. 288 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: You and I are both grads of Ohio. You and 289 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I've been telling him for years that ou has the 290 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: best journalism school in the country. He's a Maryland brad 291 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: and you gotta back me up here that that there's 292 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: no better journalism school than Ohio. You till that's George Sloman. Actually, actually, 293 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: there's no better journalism school. And there's actually no better 294 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: place on the planet than Athens, Ohio. I mean that, 295 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: but I've been telling him you you don't want to 296 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: live in Maui. You want to live in athen You know. 297 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: You know what, Peter, you had a lot of credibility 298 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: before this conversation. Everybody to have this on their bucket 299 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: list before they die, visit Athens, Ohio. I'm with you. 300 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: There's no better street than Court Street, and there's no 301 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: better place in a fall afternoon than being right there 302 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: in the heart of campus. I love it being with you. Thanks, 303 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Peter. All right, So thanks again to Peter 304 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: for joining us, and uh, you know, he has just 305 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: great perspectives, obviously, having covered the NFL for thirty plus years, 306 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: he's seen it all. Yeah, for sure. You know, I 307 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: think it's good to hear him say that he likes 308 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: what the Ravens are doing. Yeah, exactly, because you know 309 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I do too, And like I didn't mean to like 310 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: insinuate otherwise with my question about like, well, most of 311 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: the time when you spend a lot of age, you 312 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: don't win. Because I really like these additions, but it's 313 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, you want to get from somebody outside the building, 314 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: like did they overspend in your opinion? Did they not? 315 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Because those are all legitimate questions, and he it's good 316 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: to see, especially when you see. The funny thing is 317 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Woodheads like the first running back off the market. You know, 318 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: like there's still some big, big names out there, and 319 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Woodhead was the first to go. You wouldn't expect that, 320 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: especially coming off a c L. Yeah, and he likes 321 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: the Woodhead move. I mean he thought that Dave would 322 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: could be I like it too, but he thinks that 323 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: Davey wood he could be a really big piece for 324 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: this offense. So you know, it's hard. It's when you 325 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: have someone like that who looks at these moves and 326 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: says they're kind of addressing everything. That they need to 327 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: address there getting a potential playmaking running back. So well, 328 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: except for wide receiver, they still have not address that 329 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: one corner right, wide receiver corner. I mean we came 330 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: into this, those were probably the two biggest nees you 331 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: would say, right, I didn't have safety is my biggest niece. No, 332 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: but or running back if you upgrade it safety. I 333 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: think secondary as a whole, but I think corner was 334 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: a bigger need than safety. But I do agree that, yes, 335 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: the second area as a whole. When when what is it? 336 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: All ships rise, high tide rises, all ship there we go. 337 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: That's trying to use that saying like four different times 338 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and you butcher it every time. I 339 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: am bad with sayings in general. My wife can attest this. 340 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: I can never get him right. I always butcher them 341 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: every single time. But anyway, yes, I think the Jefferson 342 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: moves helps the secondary as a whole. I still think 343 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: that they do need to add a veteran cornerback because 344 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: you're going to draft one by the time. I'm sure 345 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: you're going to draft one in the first round with 346 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: this whole Sydney Jones Achilles. Anyway, you're gonna draft one die, 347 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: but you still it's a lot to say that rookie 348 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: is gonna come in be your lockdown number one guy 349 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: from week one or lockdown number two guy even from 350 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: week one. And there's there's talk to the Ravens could 351 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: sign Morse Clayborne at the time that we're recording this, right, 352 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: not signed. Worse when you're listening if yeah, sorry that 353 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're not immediate on that. We would like 354 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: that signing. We can talk about that signing as if it. Yeah, 355 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: I think of it. It It would be good. Yeah, but 356 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: they still need to add a corner. I'm not sure 357 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: what they're going to do. A wide receiver. That's that's 358 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: the one that right now is puzzling me a little bit. 359 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Wide receiver has always become available, you know, over the 360 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: course of the summer, so you could you could add one, 361 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: but I think that they definitely want to get one 362 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: before they go into the off season workouts. Like to me, 363 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: it's not a situation where like you're you're adding a 364 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: number three or four somehow in free agency late when 365 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: training camp cuts are made or something like that. You 366 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: get someone earlier, Yes, you would absolutely like to get 367 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: someone earlier. And then the market is dwindling a little bit, 368 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: so it just remains to be seen what they're going 369 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: to do there. As we talked about, we both like 370 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall a lot. He's not there. I mean, is 371 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: it Victor Cruz? Do you do you end up? Does 372 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Camar aikin boomerang back to you, Victor? You know Victor Cruz. 373 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: There's there's different guys out there. Did I already say 374 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Victor Cruz? Said? Victory said, there's a guy Victor Cruz 375 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: just played for the Giants, guy Victor Cruz. If we 376 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: signed Victor Cruz, then we should do a Facebook live 377 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: stream the taping of the lounge. And I promise all 378 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: listeners that I would do that. Are we trying to 379 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: get people? Are you trying to get people to watch 380 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: or not watch? Because if that's the promise, I don't 381 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: think anybody's tune you can see me. Butcher. One thing 382 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: I want to say too is both you and I 383 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of thought when they signed Jefferson, the feeling on 384 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: him was all he's a strong safety, and this is 385 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: really more of like he's not a free Safety's the thought. 386 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: He's not somebody that roams the back end of the defense. 387 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. Both of us when we 388 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: watched a lot of his tape from last year, because 389 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: we're tap we're tape guys. Oh yeah, we watched the 390 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: tape watch film. Yeah, when we watched the tape, both 391 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: of us watched him and said, he's a pretty good player. 392 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: He flies around the ball, He's constantly around the ball, 393 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: plays with a lot of passion, plays with a lot 394 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: of energy excitement. I think that people are really gonna 395 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: like watching him play. Yeah, And I think what he 396 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: enables he kind of frees up wet All to be 397 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: a true more of a true frete safety. What makes 398 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: Eric Weddle so good is that he can kind of 399 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: like move all around the lands, disguise a lot of 400 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: these things. And I think that the Ravens defense wasn't 401 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: able to use him in that way enough last year. 402 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: He was a little bit more. We need you closer 403 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage. We needs you match it up 404 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: against some of these tight ends, those kind of things, 405 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: because Webby, you know, he's willing to throw his his 406 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: body into some hits, but he's not. You don't really 407 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: want them taking a pounding. Was the free stage and 408 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: was a strong safety. Now wettell Can is freed up 409 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: to be more of that roam or be on the 410 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: back end. You know, he dropped a couple of picks, 411 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: but he also made four um and so I think 412 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: he's really good in that role. And now Tony Jefferson 413 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: and can also roam around a lot. You can just 414 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: he can blitz a lot better. He's a great blitzer. 415 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: He's physical, good hitter. He can match up against a 416 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of those tight ends that you know, he's a 417 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: better matchup than wettle Is. I think against those guys. Um. 418 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna work really well in tandem. The 419 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: word that they kept using, the Tony Jefferson kept using 420 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: was interchangeable. And I think that that is exactly what 421 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens want in their safety and I think that's 422 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah, so we'll keep our eye out 423 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: for a cornerback, though maybe more it's Claiborne wide receiver, 424 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: pass rusher maybe. I mean, look, there's there's areas that 425 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: the Ravels still need to address inside linebackers. The spot 426 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: they've talked about the offensive line. There's a hole now 427 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: there with Rick Quick you need ready tackle. Yeah, So 428 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: like there's definitely spots on the roster, but you can 429 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: say that's the same thing for pretty much every single 430 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: team in the league. Everyone's looking to get better and 431 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: I think you know, as you said it, they're not done. 432 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: We ain't done. They're not done yet. So well we're done, 433 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: We're done. Yes, Thank you very much for listening. As always, 434 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: you can reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot 435 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: NFL dot net and we'll probably have a lot more 436 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: to talk about next week. Thank you very much.