Speaker 1: Hey, groupies, it is an additional group chat because well,
Speaker 1: it's been a pretty busy forty eight hours. So we're
Speaker 1: sitting down and telling you what it was like to
Speaker 1: cover the hiring of new Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rule.
Speaker 1: Our phone is both on four so I don't want
Speaker 1: to unplug my phone and then have the phone die
Speaker 1: in the middle of this important conversation with him for
Speaker 1: the first time, so it's on speaker phone in the car,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, guys, hush, here we go call him
Speaker 1: instantly it rings once. Hey, Caroline, that was what he
Speaker 1: said to me. We then put a group chat spin
Speaker 1: on what all Matt Rule has ahead of him as
Speaker 1: he hires a staff and gets ready for the seasons.
Speaker 1: Jim and Joanna we're telling him about the Browns estate,
Speaker 1: and like before they keeven finished talking, Matt was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not interested. So they quickly move on to the
Speaker 1: other two choices. We have that and so much more,
Speaker 1: including a huge announcement right off the top. So welcome
Speaker 1: to this week's the group Chat. You've been added to
Speaker 1: the group chat with your friends Caroline, can Max Senson,
Speaker 1: and Will Brian. I'm back guys. Number one, thank you
Speaker 1: for doing a group chat without me just kidding. It
Speaker 1: hurt a little. I was wondering, what, how did you
Speaker 1: feel about it? Well, I didn't even know that you
Speaker 1: guys were doing it. It came. It came to get
Speaker 1: it very quickly. Yes, thanks for letting me. I don't
Speaker 1: think you were accessible at that time. No, I wasn't,
Speaker 1: and I understand that. But the way that I found
Speaker 1: out about the group chat even happenings when I got
Speaker 1: on the app and there was the group chat was there?
Speaker 1: I know when I fake cry, I actually get tears
Speaker 1: in my eyes. My eyes, But no, that was such
Speaker 1: a cool episode. How I actually found out about it,
Speaker 1: It was such a whirld one on our trip that
Speaker 1: we will get to in just a second. But Parks
Speaker 1: actually pointed out, he was, hey, they did a group
Speaker 1: chat today. He's a big, big groupie. And I was like,
Speaker 1: wait what and he was like, yeah, they did a
Speaker 1: group chat with a guy that broke the news about
Speaker 1: rule and I was like, and then I opened up
Speaker 1: my app and there it was. Got I got a
Speaker 1: thorn and our bone to pay whatever we want to
Speaker 1: say with you, you and you pointing to all and
Speaker 1: actually d L. You were probably in here too, so
Speaker 1: I've got a problem with d L as well. It's
Speaker 1: mostly him though, yeah, it's always mad. It's always mad.
Speaker 1: It's always producer mad. Spot That's okay. Whatever, it was strange,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the same without you. How you opened it
Speaker 1: like this is this is weird? That was cool though,
Speaker 1: it was really really cool. Another cool piece that I'm
Speaker 1: going to say is even more cool than that particular
Speaker 1: episode is that it's a new year. Things change, we
Speaker 1: set goals for ourselves. It is Thursday. That's another thing,
Speaker 1: but that's not where I'm getting. Let's see, here's the
Speaker 1: thing though, it's it's Thursday. You're messing up her rhythm here.
Speaker 1: She's trying to I was going to lead into it
Speaker 1: trying to remember because usually because usually we do this
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays, so on Thursdays we're lifting the rules on
Speaker 1: this ding ning ning. For those of you're listening, there
Speaker 1: are actually two puns for my lack of a pun,
Speaker 1: but you went a little early. No one got the
Speaker 1: other pun went too early on it. But baby steps.
Speaker 1: At least you now know what a pun is correctly
Speaker 1: use it so much so that you put two puns on,
Speaker 1: but no one got the other pun. So of course
Speaker 1: the one pun is rule. We will be using that
Speaker 1: too much. Probably the second one is left because guys,
Speaker 1: we're sponsored. Who who put all? Right? We didn't time
Speaker 1: And I actually just heard a quote that I would
Speaker 1: like to share with everyone. We did not say this.
Speaker 1: This is from the outside. This is this is podcast
Speaker 1: in radio standards here. Okay, apparently it is a good
Speaker 1: show informs and entertains. But a great show is sponsored.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I mean, I didn't say it. We
Speaker 1: didn't say it, but apparently we're great. So congratulations to us.
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Speaker 1: to take a lift. Yeah, I didn't take a lift.
Speaker 1: Didn't take a lift. That was problem number one. They
Speaker 1: were probably in such a bad mood when they got
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Speaker 1: What happens there? I have no idea we should go.
Speaker 1: That's like um from the forty year Old Virgin, where
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Speaker 1: Oh man, so many great things like what you just
Speaker 1: heard right there coming for you. But let's first get
Speaker 1: to the entire reason why the group chat happened without me.
Speaker 1: Because it's a good reason. It's a crazy reason because
Speaker 1: none of us were expecting it on Tuesday. I know what.
Speaker 1: I woke up on Tuesday morning of this week. I
Speaker 1: did not think to myself, go ahead and pack a bag,
Speaker 1: because you may be going to Texas. Pretty crazy. But
Speaker 1: I am thankful that. I will say. Some mornings, I
Speaker 1: think to myself, I'm not going to be on camera today,
Speaker 1: so I won't do my hair. I'll put on very
Speaker 1: minimal makeup, just enough to walk out of the house
Speaker 1: and feel pretty. But thankfully that morning I just woke
Speaker 1: up and got completely ready, said I'm just going to
Speaker 1: be camera ready because of this coaching search. And we
Speaker 1: were so wishy washy if it could happen, it could
Speaker 1: not happen. We were thinking a different, you know, stretch
Speaker 1: of days where it might happen. So I did. I
Speaker 1: just got up and got completely ready and thank goodness
Speaker 1: because we had no time. Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 1: I mean that morning when all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: find out and it's like, hey, well but even you
Speaker 1: get to wake Oh yeah, it actually starts before I
Speaker 1: ever officially knew that we were going to wake O.
Speaker 1: I walked in, I just knew something was happening. There
Speaker 1: was a different vibe in the building people. It was
Speaker 1: not panicked by any means, but there was just a
Speaker 1: certain tension in the air where people were like, I
Speaker 1: think everything I had on my to do list to
Speaker 1: do today has gone out the window. And that that
Speaker 1: was the feeling of, well, things have changed, now what
Speaker 1: are we doing? So I'm kind of walking around in
Speaker 1: office is knowing that we have this idea of us
Speaker 1: going to wherever this coach is to get some stuff
Speaker 1: on the front end. So I'm kind of walking around like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what's going on? Do we think anything's gonna
Speaker 1: happen today? And and the answer I got was they're
Speaker 1: supposed to leave for another interview later this afternoon, but
Speaker 1: there's a chance that they never do that because of
Speaker 1: who they interviewed yesterday it went so well and they
Speaker 1: want him, so depending on how this goes, just kind
Speaker 1: of be on standby until lunch. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't make it to lunch. At eleven o'clock we
Speaker 1: find out that we're going to wake but not so
Speaker 1: much that we're going that there's the possibility that this
Speaker 1: is who we are hiring, and if we can, we
Speaker 1: would like to go to Waco. That was at eleven am.
Speaker 1: By one o'clock we are taking off for Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: So we're sitting in the office kind of looking like, hey,
Speaker 1: here's our options. You could get into Waco is a
Speaker 1: very small airport if you haven't figured that out, of
Speaker 1: how small wacoes. So there was a connection to get
Speaker 1: there even from an American hub of Charlotte. So we're
Speaker 1: looking and like, well, you could get in at at
Speaker 1: five would be the earliest in to Waco, or you
Speaker 1: could get in later around nine, but we wanted to
Speaker 1: get there as early as possible. And someone just said,
Speaker 1: there's a one o'clock flight. What are the chances you
Speaker 1: think you could get on it? Well, I think that
Speaker 1: we could do that. I think yeah. And this was that,
Speaker 1: like this was the building. Yeah it was, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was rather and we did not get t S
Speaker 1: a pre check because in all of the madness of
Speaker 1: booking these flights, they did not have mind known traveler number.
Speaker 1: So when we get there, we don't have t S
Speaker 1: a pre check. But you know, working out great and mean,
Speaker 1: it was a Tuesday, the holiday, the holiday was over,
Speaker 1: so you know, staying in the normal security line was okay.
Speaker 1: So we we got through, got on the plane, took off.
Speaker 1: There was three of us, Brandon out of photographer, Carson Smucker, videographer,
Speaker 1: and then myself. We're on the very last row of
Speaker 1: this plane, and in front of us was a child.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the age of this child, in
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, a bit old to still be in diapers.
Speaker 1: But I'm not a parent, so I will eat my
Speaker 1: words in a couple of years when I get to
Speaker 1: that stage in my life. A bit too old but
Speaker 1: my feeling on kids and diapers, if you can tell
Speaker 1: them and they understand, try to hold it until you
Speaker 1: get off the plane, or you're not going to be
Speaker 1: changed until we get off the plane. I feel like
Speaker 1: they're a bit too old. That conversation was happening between
Speaker 1: this mother and this child. He didn't wait. So not
Speaker 1: only were we right near the restroom, we also had
Speaker 1: a kid in front of us who used the restroom.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, and and it was a three
Speaker 1: hour of flight. That would be fine. Three hour flights
Speaker 1: are great when you know you're going on them, but
Speaker 1: when you wake up that day and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, just not prepared for that type of trial.
Speaker 1: I didn't have my headphones, I didn't bring a book.
Speaker 1: We did get the WiFi to work, so we were
Speaker 1: kind of following along as the news was breaking, but
Speaker 1: we weren't partaking in any of it because we didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, as the official site, you can't really say
Speaker 1: anything until the burbage is correct in all of this.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, but we get there. It was
Speaker 1: an amazing uh trip. We get there and get the car.
Speaker 1: We didn't take a lift, which is really sad, but
Speaker 1: we We rent a car and we take off for Waco,
Speaker 1: which is about an hour and forty minutes away from Austin.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite part. So I've never met Matt
Speaker 1: Rule up until this point. I have to call him
Speaker 1: and set up, Hey, we would love to come to
Speaker 1: your house. That's my first interaction. You don't normally say
Speaker 1: that to a stranger when you meet them for the
Speaker 1: first time. It goes a lot more casual of just
Speaker 1: But he didn't know you guys were coming, right. He
Speaker 1: did know that we were in Texas, like or is
Speaker 1: a group of people that are going to be and
Speaker 1: he he didn't know that. But still he did not
Speaker 1: know that we were coming to his house, and that
Speaker 1: was our ask. So when I you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm in the car, I'm like, guys, I'm nervous, you know,
Speaker 1: all right? And I have my phone connected to the
Speaker 1: speaker phone in the car and we can't figure out
Speaker 1: how to unplug. All of our phones were dead. My
Speaker 1: phone was on four percent, Carson's was on four percent,
Speaker 1: and Randon's was dead. It gives me anxiety. So Brandon
Speaker 1: had been out of the loop for hours. Our our
Speaker 1: phone is both on four so I don't want to
Speaker 1: unplug my phone and then have the phone die in
Speaker 1: the middle of this important conversation with him for the
Speaker 1: first time. So it's on speaker phone in the car.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, guys, hush, here we go call him.
Speaker 1: Instantly it rings once. Hey Caroline, that was what he
Speaker 1: said to me. Hey, he already had my numbers. Say
Speaker 1: he's a details guy night when I was reading all
Speaker 1: about him. He's big on the details. He wants to
Speaker 1: make sure that everything is in place and that he's
Speaker 1: prepared in the process. Is there. Well, he did it
Speaker 1: because he had already obviously he had my number, had
Speaker 1: saved it, knew that I would be calling. But for
Speaker 1: him to pick up the phone after one ring, Hey Caroline,
Speaker 1: how his phone will never experience a day like it
Speaker 1: had yesterday? Yeah? Yeah, it was crazy. So he instantly
Speaker 1: knows my name. We talk, He's like, what are you
Speaker 1: guys looking for? Like you know, or we're kind of joking. First.
Speaker 1: I was like, so, how's your day? And he laughed,
Speaker 1: you know, like this has been a crazy day, and
Speaker 1: so we kind of joke about that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I woke up this morning thinking
Speaker 1: I would be in Texas, so we joked about that.
Speaker 1: Then he was like, what are you guys looking for?
Speaker 1: And I know you're you know, what do you need
Speaker 1: from me as a coach? We would love to come
Speaker 1: to your home. It doesn't matter what it's like, and
Speaker 1: know it's probably been a crazy day. We just want
Speaker 1: to start introducing our fans to you and your family,
Speaker 1: and we would love to do that in your home.
Speaker 1: He was like, that sounds great. I'll text you my
Speaker 1: address and you guys can just, you know, come straight here.
Speaker 1: I was like, great, we'll probably be around five thirty.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. Hang up the phone. And we immediately
Speaker 1: hang up the phone and I say at a Carson
Speaker 1: and right now I was like, oh, we get to
Speaker 1: keep him like he's ours. We get to keep him.
Speaker 1: He's so great. Was so just gracious and kind of
Speaker 1: not what I was expecting. It has been the longest day.
Speaker 1: He's having to balance so many things of telling Baylor
Speaker 1: he's leaving, saying yes to Dave Pepper, and then Panthers
Speaker 1: having to call the Giant say I'm not coming there.
Speaker 1: He has local news stations knocking on his door at
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the afternoon and then we're coming knocking
Speaker 1: at five thirty. It was a lot, so we end
Speaker 1: up getting there. Him and his wife Julia are extremely
Speaker 1: welcoming and gracious and super casual. I just in my
Speaker 1: mind I was expecting, you know, he would be ready,
Speaker 1: he would be just you know, in his nice shirt.
Speaker 1: Maybe he had been doing press all day. No, he
Speaker 1: was super chill, and I loved it. He answered the
Speaker 1: door in his like short sleeve hoodie from bail It
Speaker 1: was Bailer, that's what he has. He has his Baylor
Speaker 1: hoodie on athletic shorts. His wife is in this cute
Speaker 1: like sweat pants sweatshirt combo um. You know, it looks
Speaker 1: like she had done her hair that morning to go
Speaker 1: to the interview. But then was like, well, we're not
Speaker 1: going anywhere, so I just kind of had thrown it up.
Speaker 1: The kids were in the backyard playing basketball with their dogs.
Speaker 1: It was just really it was such a livable home
Speaker 1: and like this is it's been a long day. Welcome guys.
Speaker 1: It's five thirty at night and we're tired. They had
Speaker 1: just poured a glass of wine to kind of mellow out,
Speaker 1: and then here we come rolling in with cameras and yeah,
Speaker 1: no we did not get a glass. No, we we
Speaker 1: let them do that. But Julie was great. She walked
Speaker 1: us around their home and was like, just pick a
Speaker 1: spot that you would like to do this interview, which
Speaker 1: was awesome. You don't normally get that. So we're walking around,
Speaker 1: we pick a spot that, you know. The guy started
Speaker 1: setting up cameras and how they wanted to look, and
Speaker 1: I'm just filling a little bit of like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: before interviews you like to do it? You need to
Speaker 1: talk to them and see like what's ther level of
Speaker 1: comfort about talking about this, talking about that. Just build
Speaker 1: a rapport with him before the cameras come on. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing with him and his wife. It's
Speaker 1: very cool, very awesome. He's constantly on his phone. His
Speaker 1: phone is just blowing up. He can't sit still. He
Speaker 1: sits down in the chairs for the interview, and we
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned like, okach is probably gonna be about
Speaker 1: ten minutes until we get this. Here's all right, I
Speaker 1: gotta get up, and he gets up. He gets up
Speaker 1: and just kind of paces around on his phone. Um,
Speaker 1: he tells this hilarious story about when he was getting
Speaker 1: ready to leave to go interview with the Giants. He
Speaker 1: gets the phone call. He has everything on but his jacket.
Speaker 1: Julie is like putting on her dress to go get
Speaker 1: They get the call, he sits down. He doesn't move
Speaker 1: for four hours, just phone call after phone call after
Speaker 1: phone call of calling the president of Baylor and then
Speaker 1: the athletic director and calling all these people. He didn't
Speaker 1: move until eleven. Yeah, I'm just laying there. And then
Speaker 1: finally he's like, well, I guess I can change out
Speaker 1: of these clothes now and get a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 1: He did the Baylor the local Waco to Texas media
Speaker 1: in the sweatshirt that we saw him in. It was
Speaker 1: just very I loved that about him. That the first
Speaker 1: thing that he he wore in an interview with us
Speaker 1: was essentially a zip up hoodie and he and he asked,
Speaker 1: he said, this is fine, I said, coach, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this, And this is this is who you
Speaker 1: are where in your home, you're relaxed, you feel really
Speaker 1: good about the decision. You're not trying to be anyone
Speaker 1: like if that's who you are, that's that's what I want.
Speaker 1: So he was awesome him and his wife are great.
Speaker 1: I just loved that his kids. His kids are outside
Speaker 1: playing basketball just with the dogs. They have two dogs,
Speaker 1: two puppies they decided to get in season, which Julie,
Speaker 1: his wife, said, I'm not sure what we were thinking that,
Speaker 1: but they have a Jack Roulse, a six month old
Speaker 1: Jack Russell, and a three month old German Shop So
Speaker 1: it's a crazy household that they're so great. And then
Speaker 1: we said we get done. We probably spent about two
Speaker 1: hours there with them. I was like, what time are
Speaker 1: you guys leaving in the morning and they were like, ah,
Speaker 1: we don't know. Do you know do you have do
Speaker 1: you have the itinerary? We haven't even gotten to that
Speaker 1: part yet. So we kind of walked him through what
Speaker 1: the next day would be like and they said anything,
Speaker 1: anything you guys want in the morning. So we were
Speaker 1: back at their house at six in the morning, Miking
Speaker 1: coach Op again putting a mic on him walking him
Speaker 1: out the house. That the cat ran out the door
Speaker 1: and they were trying to get the cat back inside.
Speaker 1: It was all black cat, to which they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like one of his little daughters, Like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: like like a panther. Um so that. It was just
Speaker 1: it was very cool to see such a such a
Speaker 1: real and down to earth family load up to go watch,
Speaker 1: you know, their husband and dad be introduced as the
Speaker 1: head coach at the Carolina Panthers. It was very cool
Speaker 1: and we appreciate them so much for letting us in
Speaker 1: on such a really intimate family moment where their lives
Speaker 1: are changing. And they allowed cameras there and allowed us
Speaker 1: to be nosy and to literally follow them from hours
Speaker 1: after making the decision up and really until this point
Speaker 1: we've been following them with cameras. So we we we
Speaker 1: go to the airport with them. Uh, you know, three
Speaker 1: kids walking out on their the fifteen is the oldest.
Speaker 1: Then they have a four and a six year old
Speaker 1: little girl. So there I mean private planes, and they're
Speaker 1: kind of looking around like, wow, this is so cool.
Speaker 1: They get a great family photo and then they you know,
Speaker 1: they get on the plane and I will say, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was their first time on a private plane.
Speaker 1: I think I think they kind of knew what they
Speaker 1: were doing, but it was still it was it was
Speaker 1: just a very cool moment. And then they get on
Speaker 1: the plane, coach turns around, shakes our hands, and said,
Speaker 1: you know, our photographer was getting on the plane with them,
Speaker 1: but Carson and I said, guys, well seeing Carolina, you know,
Speaker 1: checks your hand, says thank you very much and gets
Speaker 1: on the plane. And it was awesome. And then we
Speaker 1: we kind of finished up and we had to race
Speaker 1: back and get on a get back to Austin and
Speaker 1: get on a plane. We landed as the press conference
Speaker 1: was going on. You're gonna have to pick up from here. Maxieville.
Speaker 1: If we we last time we saw him, we shok
Speaker 1: his hand and said have a great day. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think when Matt got to Charlotte he seemed a little
Speaker 1: shell shot. Yeah, it was a lot that had just transpired.
Speaker 1: And he was great going through the car wash here
Speaker 1: because of course we put him through a lot. I
Speaker 1: mean there was a photo station here and you had
Speaker 1: to read these scripts for radio, and he be and
Speaker 1: everybody there, and then we were going to do a
Speaker 1: sit to an interview and oh, here's DJ Morens, Shack
Speaker 1: Thompson in the locker room. Why don't you go talk
Speaker 1: to them a little bit. It's just one thing after another,
Speaker 1: and he was super gracious with his time to do that.
Speaker 1: But you could tell that his head was spinning a
Speaker 1: little bit um and of course that's that's natural in
Speaker 1: a situation like this, but he can turn when he
Speaker 1: turns it on though, Like and as we all saw
Speaker 1: the intro press conference, the man is it's a charismatic
Speaker 1: man and he's a great public speaker. Um and there's
Speaker 1: an infectious energy to him when he really gets rolling.
Speaker 1: That I think is what everybody immediately kind of took
Speaker 1: away from him. I don't know if will you would agree,
Speaker 1: but you just sort of hear him speak and it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh okay, like I'm I know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of fans are like, okay, I'm ready to run through
Speaker 1: a brick wall now. You know. It's he's got that
Speaker 1: charisma to him. Fans and like national media people were
Speaker 1: all watching it. I mean, and I didn't get as
Speaker 1: much exposure and time with him that you two did.
Speaker 1: And even I felt like I'm already one of his
Speaker 1: best friends, you know, Like I literally just kind of
Speaker 1: like said hello and in passing throughout the day because
Speaker 1: we were I was doing something else and just watching
Speaker 1: and listening and reading and hearing him all day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you feel like we're all a part of
Speaker 1: this and we're all connected to him. He makes everyone
Speaker 1: feel connected and so immediately, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: really rare quality. He's He's got a lot of just
Speaker 1: regular guy vibes to him, which I think makes him
Speaker 1: extremely relatable. I mean, like you're talking about at his home, Caroline,
Speaker 1: he just kind of sounds like, you know, a Texas
Speaker 1: high school football coach and a lot of ways honestly,
Speaker 1: and getting a little bit like Eric Taylor vibe for
Speaker 1: the head coaching position. But yeah, just kind of like
Speaker 1: a normal guy um who also happens to be a
Speaker 1: brilliant football mind and one of the better coaches in America.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's um. There's a humble There's a humble
Speaker 1: nature to him, I think, And I think that's what
Speaker 1: something Dave Tepper was telling me about kind of why
Speaker 1: he felt Matt and him got off so great was
Speaker 1: just guys didn't who didn't come from a whole lot
Speaker 1: kind of had to scratch and claw their way to
Speaker 1: the top, you know, Like Matt was not like sitting
Speaker 1: behind somebody at a blue bread program and got to
Speaker 1: take it over. Like he went to Temple which was
Speaker 1: in disarray and then he went to Baylor, which was
Speaker 1: an even more disarray, and everybody thought he was crazy
Speaker 1: for taking those jobs. And I have ever reason to
Speaker 1: think he was crazy. I mean, who wins at those places?
Speaker 1: Who wins? Who's going to turn Baylor around after it
Speaker 1: was in such a toxic turmoil following art Ryle's tenure there.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's it just shows what kind of
Speaker 1: program builder he is to do what he did at
Speaker 1: those places. Um, And that that takes a certain amount
Speaker 1: of fortitude and to use Matt's favorite word, toughness, that
Speaker 1: comes in a lot of different forms. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what Matt Real brings in addition to a lot
Speaker 1: of energy. And I think that's what this place really
Speaker 1: needs right now. And I think it's what he's providing
Speaker 1: is a ton of energy and he's preaching the good
Speaker 1: word a Carolina Panthers football. I mean, everybody was watching that.
Speaker 1: The son of a minister, clearly he knows how to
Speaker 1: commander room in that way. Um, And I think it's
Speaker 1: just it's an exciting start to the next chapter of
Speaker 1: this team's history with a guy like him taking the reins. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's to your point, Well, there is this Okay,
Speaker 1: now we have someone to rally behind, and not that
Speaker 1: in years past here that has been missing, or even
Speaker 1: when Ron Rivera was here earlier in the year, it's
Speaker 1: not that that was missing. But towards the end of
Speaker 1: Ron's tenure here, we were struggling a little bit of
Speaker 1: of like who's you know. We knew that something was coming,
Speaker 1: we knew that turmoil was happening, we knew change was coming.
Speaker 1: And so it's been a couple of months of who
Speaker 1: is what what and who is the future of the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. And I think that was a big question
Speaker 1: that was looming for a long time is I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean as soon as Dave Depper took over as owner,
Speaker 1: that has been the question what is the future for
Speaker 1: this franchise? And your head coach is a huge part
Speaker 1: of that. And so now he is the future of
Speaker 1: this franchise for six years, which is crazy. That's not
Speaker 1: a normal contract year. The money is not normal of
Speaker 1: what coaches are getting. So they've re you know, rewritten
Speaker 1: some of the rules and standards of what head coaches
Speaker 1: are going to get around this league. So I think
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying is and just who the person
Speaker 1: of Matt Rules is he He is this relatable, has
Speaker 1: a ton of energy, can can communicate and command a room,
Speaker 1: which is a huge deal when you're talking about an
Speaker 1: NFL locker room. He's he has been in and in
Speaker 1: NFL locker room before, but he's never commanded one like
Speaker 1: he's going to be asked to do. But I think
Speaker 1: watching him throughout this entire process and seeing how gracious
Speaker 1: he has not only with his time, but you know,
Speaker 1: he made a point that he's going to ask a
Speaker 1: lot of his players, but he's going to ask a
Speaker 1: lot of himself first. And I think he showed that
Speaker 1: with this process of of him showing up doing everything
Speaker 1: that you know, is asked of him, and and going
Speaker 1: above and beyond what was asked of him and giving
Speaker 1: us access. Some people may say that doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with coaching football. I think it does. I
Speaker 1: think just the way that he handled himself of yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna set the tone correctly off the top here
Speaker 1: that you know, I want people to get to know
Speaker 1: me and my family were going to be a part
Speaker 1: of this community. That's what him and Julie both said
Speaker 1: that they want to be involved here. So I think
Speaker 1: them allowing cameras and allowing us to introduce you all
Speaker 1: out there to them is a big deal for the
Speaker 1: type of of really next six years or who knows
Speaker 1: how long Matt gets it. He gets it, you know,
Speaker 1: he just understands what what what comes with the territory. Um.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's it's a part of the gig. And I
Speaker 1: think to what you were saying, Caroline about the commitment
Speaker 1: the Panthers made to him, They're given him the time
Speaker 1: and plenty of resources. As Day've made clear to say,
Speaker 1: there's a certain owner of this team who's got some
Speaker 1: resources available to him. Um, they're going to give him
Speaker 1: everything he needs to build a winner here and it
Speaker 1: might take some time. Um, but I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what that contract really shows is they're they're committed
Speaker 1: to Matt rule. And this is a guy who who's
Speaker 1: not a quick fixed type. This is a guy who
Speaker 1: come in assess what a program needs, put a plan
Speaker 1: in place, and then just watch him work. And three
Speaker 1: or four years from now, if if history is any
Speaker 1: indication of what happened at Baylor and a Temple, um,
Speaker 1: things here should be looking a whole lot different. And
Speaker 1: there are some people out there that said, like, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: good for him, he won the press conference. Anyone can
Speaker 1: win the press conference. But I think there is a
Speaker 1: sense of that was what he was supposed to do yesterday.
Speaker 1: You can't win a game yesterday. You you can't do
Speaker 1: all these things yesterday. Yesterday the goal was win the
Speaker 1: press conference or be the best at doing that. And
Speaker 1: I think that's that speaks to his philosophy of the
Speaker 1: process the processes. Be the best at parking your car,
Speaker 1: park your car the right way, walk to the practice
Speaker 1: field the right way, do every single day the right way,
Speaker 1: and then there aren't any throwaway days, is what he said.
Speaker 1: Man Will I but I'm with you. I think to
Speaker 1: the people saying, well, how could you not win an
Speaker 1: opening press conference I'm talking about compared to any other
Speaker 1: new head coach press conference that we've had this season,
Speaker 1: go watch them, and I I think that Matt Rule
Speaker 1: did the best. I know we're in house. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna believe us, and you're gonna say, yeah, you're saying
Speaker 1: that because you work for the man. No. I think
Speaker 1: just go go be objective. Go watch any other press
Speaker 1: conference from this year with a new head coach higher
Speaker 1: and I think Matt rule you could get points for
Speaker 1: press conferences. Lead right now be in the setup. Can
Speaker 1: we just give the Panthers pr It looked good inside
Speaker 1: that Atrium dome. It looks good, So good job Panthers
Speaker 1: all day yesterday. But now the work for Matt Rule
Speaker 1: really begins in the way that we're going to do
Speaker 1: this in group chat style and fashion. We're not just
Speaker 1: gonna lay out what all he has to do. There's
Speaker 1: a particular tie to Baylor, to Waco, Texas and now
Speaker 1: to really us and we have this same type of relationship.
Speaker 1: I believe that that Matt Rule probably does with Chip
Speaker 1: and Joanna Gates. I don't know if anyone watches fix
Speaker 1: Er Upper, but this is in waker because if you
Speaker 1: don't stop listening, we don't even want you. If if
Speaker 1: you're a groupie and you do not watch Fixer Upper,
Speaker 1: get out. Even if you don't watch in your own home,
Speaker 1: you've ever been in a medical office waiting room, you
Speaker 1: have watched your nails done, so we've not seen it,
Speaker 1: and that get out. I mean, really like, just don't
Speaker 1: say anything, Just sit, just sit and don't say anything, honestly, Now,
Speaker 1: that's actually the first legitimate mute we've ever gotten. The
Speaker 1: deal just like flipped it on around the channels here.
Speaker 1: We could probably get it on right now. We absolutely
Speaker 1: on HDTV. Well actually now it's not on HDTV as
Speaker 1: much because they have their own networks. Were like, we're
Speaker 1: good with this, We're gonna go be Oprah and have
Speaker 1: our own network. So they actually have their own network.
Speaker 1: But Fixer Upper is such a fantastic show. And if
Speaker 1: you love Ship Lap, you even if you even know
Speaker 1: about Ship Lap, it's because of Joanna Gains. So what
Speaker 1: happened yesterday is a Panthers fan reached out to Chip
Speaker 1: Gains on Twitter and just said, Hey, we haven't really
Speaker 1: watched Baylor football that much soup, will you please let
Speaker 1: us know what type of coach are we getting in
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, because Chips a big bailorship. Chip. Yes, Chip
Speaker 1: and Joan are both huge. It's you know it is
Speaker 1: they even in the show. They've gone to Baylor. They
Speaker 1: did the they redid the house of the equipment manager
Speaker 1: of the football team and Baylor, so very ingrained in Baylor.
Speaker 1: So we're reaching out to him saying, hey, who are
Speaker 1: we getting? And Chip's response was just he's great. Not
Speaker 1: to mention such a great man's the best not to
Speaker 1: mention a great man is something that he would along
Speaker 1: those lines. So I retweet this. I do have to
Speaker 1: give a little shout out to Zach Goin's are one
Speaker 1: of our writers. He pointed it out to me. And
Speaker 1: Zach always likes social media clout. He tries. He's trying
Speaker 1: to get every retweet, every I mean, he he is.
Speaker 1: He wants it. He wants it, which you know, well,
Speaker 1: now he has a shout out on the group chat.
Speaker 1: So now really he's growing. So everyone you can go
Speaker 1: out there and follow him. That would really make his day.
Speaker 1: But he points it out to me, So then I
Speaker 1: go and look, I'm like, this is perfect. I'm going
Speaker 1: to retweet this and then quote tweet it. So I say,
Speaker 1: you know, Fixer Upper fans out there, so everyone except
Speaker 1: for apparently Matt Hogan, everyone out there. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: here's what Chip Gains had to say about our new coach.
Speaker 1: If you're not on board, you are now all this.
Speaker 1: Well he liked it, Chip Gains. Chip Gains liked the tweet. Chip.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, we'd love to get you on the show.
Speaker 1: Whenever your So he liked that one. He also liked
Speaker 1: one where a person replied and said, is he a
Speaker 1: Panthers fan? So that I replied, I said, no, Baylor
Speaker 1: in the in princies, but give us time, we'll convert
Speaker 1: him that one. Yeah, if he's if he's boys and
Speaker 1: Matt Ruled, then yeah. So I now if we can
Speaker 1: get Chip Gains on this podcast, yeah, Caroline, work your magic, no,
Speaker 1: get him here. He likes so yeah, um, he liked
Speaker 1: the link to the story I wrote Matt, which, of course,
Speaker 1: as a huge Fixer Upper fan, Uh, that was very
Speaker 1: good about And I learned a Caroline and she told
Speaker 1: me that he in fact liked her tweets. So yeah, Chip,
Speaker 1: we know man, you're you're you're into the content we're
Speaker 1: producing here. We just need to be a part of
Speaker 1: the show, a part of it. But in this, in
Speaker 1: this sense of Fixer Upper, of all the things that
Speaker 1: Matt Rule has ahead of him, we're going to do
Speaker 1: this in the framework of Fixer Upper. If you have
Speaker 1: not seen a show, you're gonna be lost for just
Speaker 1: a little while, but it will still be entertaining and
Speaker 1: I hope that will actually make you want to watch
Speaker 1: fixer upper and then you can say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that was a group chat reference instead of being exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's what we're going for here. So thirty minutes
Speaker 1: into this podcast, we're getting to the good part, getting
Speaker 1: into the good part. So Matt Rule, what he has
Speaker 1: ahead of him now is a mountain he he is
Speaker 1: getting the wonderful opportunity. Actually, you're better at this, Max
Speaker 1: is better. So here's a sex is better. So the
Speaker 1: show pretty much the premise at the beginning of every show,
Speaker 1: Caroline Craft me if I'm wrong, is they usually take
Speaker 1: you to like three houses and it's like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to show you the three houses and then we'll
Speaker 1: you decide which one you want to renovate and that'll
Speaker 1: be your home. And you've got a budget here in Carolina.
Speaker 1: The budget with Dave Tepper would probably say what unlimited?
Speaker 1: How much are you working with your chip? And Joanna
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, okay, we got a lot to
Speaker 1: work with here. They we're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: fun with this one. So the houses that Matt Rule
Speaker 1: and his family were looking at were a state Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: a State New York Giants, and the state Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: Chip and Joanna were telling him about the Browns estate
Speaker 1: and like before they Keven finished talking, Matt was like,
Speaker 1: now I'm not interested. So they quickly move on to
Speaker 1: the other two choices. Um, the New York Giants. One
Speaker 1: is a house that Matt has lived in before. He
Speaker 1: was there for a year, so he has experience living
Speaker 1: under that road foundation. He knows maybe where some of
Speaker 1: the issues lie, what they didn't get around to fixing
Speaker 1: when he was there last time. That still needs some
Speaker 1: work done on, so he's got some intimate knowledge of it.
Speaker 1: There's a certain individual, Dave Gettleman, who lives in that house.
Speaker 1: You may or may not want to live with. Dave.
Speaker 1: I love you your time here, but just run with
Speaker 1: this joke here for us if you will. Um. And
Speaker 1: so there's some work to be done. You've got some
Speaker 1: nice foundational pieces though, say Kwan Daniel Jones, there's some
Speaker 1: attractive things about the Giants and Matt. You know, growing
Speaker 1: up in that northeast area in New York City and
Speaker 1: then playing at Penn State. You could see so the
Speaker 1: Giants look clearly that was something he was thinking about.
Speaker 1: But I think that's maybe the last house they want
Speaker 1: to go to since he knows a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't get to that one because on
Speaker 1: the way to go see the Giants estate, they stopped by.
Speaker 1: So everybody thought that option number three was going to
Speaker 1: be the one for him, But everyone forgot about the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers estate, which was this beautiful home that look
Speaker 1: needs some remodeling. I mean there's no doubt about that, right,
Speaker 1: I mean there again, there are some nice foundational pieces here,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I mean, you're talking about a nice part
Speaker 1: of town. The people here are great, friendly neighborhood. You're
Speaker 1: gonna love this community. Yeah. All they looked at that
Speaker 1: house and saw all those things, and again, with the
Speaker 1: resources available to really do a remodeling job, the rules
Speaker 1: looked at that, said Chip in Joanna, we're in. We're
Speaker 1: in for house number two. We want the Carolina Panthers estate.
Speaker 1: So then the question becomes Caroline like, how you know
Speaker 1: the big the big part of that show that I
Speaker 1: love is demo Day. Right, That's where Chips favorite, Chip
Speaker 1: just goes at it with this house. They start breaking
Speaker 1: down walls and he's smashing into things. How big a
Speaker 1: demolition job this Chip and Matt Rule have on their
Speaker 1: hands here, versus more of a Joanna job, which is
Speaker 1: like maybe just kind of like yeah, just like some
Speaker 1: of the details, We just need to fix some some
Speaker 1: things here and there, and then this house is going
Speaker 1: to be completely transformed. Well, I think what Matt Rule
Speaker 1: loves about this Carolina State is that there is demo
Speaker 1: to be done to the fact that what demo does
Speaker 1: and allows him is then the freedom to build what
Speaker 1: he wants. So I think he's definitely coming in with Chip.
Speaker 1: They're going to be able to knock out some things
Speaker 1: that you know, he's already got his his some of
Speaker 1: his right hand men with him in here, so they're
Speaker 1: already getting to work on you know, what's the schedule
Speaker 1: going to look like for these next couple of weeks
Speaker 1: as we build the staff. But you know, then the
Speaker 1: head trainer also moved on from the Carolina State so
Speaker 1: he can build up that staff the way that he wants.
Speaker 1: He talked about that in his press conference. Um, and
Speaker 1: then his wife is actually a registered dietitian, so there's
Speaker 1: something to be said for the way that he wants
Speaker 1: his athletes to be fueled. So he's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to maybe maybe demo the kitchen and do what, you know,
Speaker 1: what do we want to do in there to really
Speaker 1: make it an open space wherever it feels welcome and
Speaker 1: wants to be in there. I think something else that
Speaker 1: could possibly happen as well with this, and what was
Speaker 1: probably attractive to him is you're actually gonna get to
Speaker 1: redo this and then move to a nicer, completely finished
Speaker 1: all you could want out of a facility, and you're
Speaker 1: actually gonna get to work with Temper to build this facility.
Speaker 1: So they're just doing this fixer upper for at the
Speaker 1: time being. They're going to get the right people in,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna say, hey, everyone, come to this house
Speaker 1: that we're redoing this Carolina estate. We're actually gonna then
Speaker 1: move you to this other amazing big house that we're
Speaker 1: building that's really the big fix her upper that we've
Speaker 1: been waiting. Yeah, you get two houses for the price
Speaker 1: of well, damn, Temper gets two houses for the price
Speaker 1: of two houses. That rule gets two houses for really
Speaker 1: the price of one here, So it was a it
Speaker 1: was a no brainer for his family and actually his
Speaker 1: wife years ago a nutrition company that she used to
Speaker 1: work for. They were based out of Atlanta, but they
Speaker 1: had a office here in Charlotte, and so she had
Speaker 1: been to Charlotte background two thousand, two thousand one, and
Speaker 1: she was telling me this while we were there. I said,
Speaker 1: have you been back since No, you know, it's been
Speaker 1: a while. I said, just prepare yourself. Charlotte has completely changed.
Speaker 1: But they're familiar with the street, They're familiar with the area.
Speaker 1: It was a no brainer. Carolina State is what they got.
Speaker 1: Just felt at home, they knew it. And Demo day
Speaker 1: is going to It's going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: uncomfortable maybe for the next couple of weeks while we
Speaker 1: while we wait and see what are the change How
Speaker 1: are they going to change this place? I mean, and
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the big questions here. Everyone
Speaker 1: wants to know Matt, like, what do you think of
Speaker 1: this roster? And you can really answer that question at
Speaker 1: his intro press conference, because you know, he'd been studying
Speaker 1: a lot of teams rosters in preparation for interviews, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't really had a chance to dive into it. Look,
Speaker 1: we know Christian McCaffrey, Luke Keikley. Beyond that, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of question marks I mean, of course, the investments
Speaker 1: in the early round draft picks the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: they're going to be a big part of things going forward.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot still that's left unknown, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of the players feel that way too,
Speaker 1: Like even talking to k K Short on Locker Clean
Speaker 1: at days, like, look, if you're not Christian or Luke,
Speaker 1: all of us don't really know what the future holds.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be a lot of evaluation to
Speaker 1: take place looking back at practice tape, all the game tape,
Speaker 1: and Matt Rule has to figure out which guys are
Speaker 1: right for he and his staff, and that's not going
Speaker 1: to be everybody. I mean, we know the nature of
Speaker 1: this league. The roster turnover is extreme every season, this
Speaker 1: one especially, you'd think with a whole new staff and
Speaker 1: a new set of eyes, Um, demolition sounds like a
Speaker 1: pretty bad word in this case, but to run with
Speaker 1: our theme, yeah, I mean, I think we could see
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of changes, uh, in the
Speaker 1: way this this team looks, and and not just this offseason,
Speaker 1: but going forward. What does a panther look like to
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, we don't know yet. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: is going to be different. I think maybe the Joanna
Speaker 1: piece is actually coming in more. This is where Joanna
Speaker 1: comes in after the demo is done and she puts
Speaker 1: the design together. She's working with Chip who then switch
Speaker 1: us from demo mode to build mode, and he's he's
Speaker 1: building the inside of this home and sometimes outside too,
Speaker 1: of what is this going to look like moving forward?
Speaker 1: What's the flow of the house going to be? What's
Speaker 1: what is this team going to be? Well? What what
Speaker 1: is that We don't know His coordinators, if you will,
Speaker 1: designing the plan for both the offense and defense side
Speaker 1: of the ball. I'm very curious to see the coordinators
Speaker 1: are going to be Um. Obviously, he's got the Baylor
Speaker 1: coaching staff, which he thinks very highly of. We'll see
Speaker 1: how many guys would maybe come over from the Bears program.
Speaker 1: But his offensive coordinator, I mean, those are those are
Speaker 1: big question marks hanging out there because we know what
Speaker 1: Matt's going to do as a kind of guy on
Speaker 1: hop of the program, overseeing the whole thing. But those
Speaker 1: guys who are building the game plans offensively and defensively
Speaker 1: calling the plays, that's gonna be a big part of
Speaker 1: the success or failure of this, and he said he
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want to bring in someone that's you know,
Speaker 1: has to be an older veteran of the NFL. I
Speaker 1: mean he said that essentially, if you can coach, you
Speaker 1: can coach. If you can teach, you can teach, you
Speaker 1: can be older, you can be younger. If you have
Speaker 1: those kind of intangibles. I think, I mean you it's
Speaker 1: written all over everything he says. It's about intangibles. Intangibles.
Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing will be you know what
Speaker 1: Jake Delome said on that podcast several weeks ago was
Speaker 1: that when John Fox came in a decade and a
Speaker 1: half ago, he looked at how the team finished off
Speaker 1: the year before, and he looked at those players and
Speaker 1: which ones were competing and putting themselves out there when
Speaker 1: it didn't matter, you know, these last four games and
Speaker 1: we're all kind of like, you know, it's interim coach,
Speaker 1: you know, out of the playoffs, like the guys that
Speaker 1: were out there. I guarantee you he looks at that
Speaker 1: tape and those intangibles of those players, those staffords, you know,
Speaker 1: who were still competing. Because if there's anybody who knows
Speaker 1: what it's like to go out on the field and
Speaker 1: lose for months straight. It's Matt Rule, Like, Yeah, Matt
Speaker 1: was having a lot of fun when his Baylor team
Speaker 1: won eleven games, and he was having a lot of
Speaker 1: fun when he won ten games back to back at Temple.
Speaker 1: But he's been through one and eleven, he's been through
Speaker 1: two and ten. We know how much dread there is
Speaker 1: when you go eight weeks that winning football game, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we've just we just experienced that. So Matt
Speaker 1: Rule knows what that looks like and what that feels like,
Speaker 1: and he wants guys that can get through that and
Speaker 1: then turned around, you know. And I think so he
Speaker 1: has a keyn eye for evaluating what to places here
Speaker 1: in Caroline because he's lived in as a coach. He's
Speaker 1: been through locker rooms and teams that have had to
Speaker 1: go through those type of stretches. Well, I think when
Speaker 1: we were at his home, he has this office space
Speaker 1: that has different memorabilia around it and and we'll have
Speaker 1: some content coming out of that in the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. He walked us through a couple of pieces
Speaker 1: of memorabilia and there were two photos stood out that
Speaker 1: he spent a little bit of time on and one
Speaker 1: was the first win that he ever got at Temple,
Speaker 1: which came in the middle of the season, and it
Speaker 1: was an emotional photo. It was him and his wife
Speaker 1: hugging with you know, their little one of their little girls,
Speaker 1: and Hand's son was being lifted up by the entire team.
Speaker 1: It was such a family investment to get this win.
Speaker 1: And he made the comment, he said, we weren't winning much.
Speaker 1: It had been a long time since this program had
Speaker 1: felt a win, and we found one here, and then
Speaker 1: it would take us a while to get to where
Speaker 1: we wanted to be. The other one was at Baylor.
Speaker 1: It was the game that put them into the Bowl game. Um,
Speaker 1: and it was him and his player jumping up and
Speaker 1: and this the happiness on their face. You'll see some
Speaker 1: of that coming, Um, really in that couple of days,
Speaker 1: some of that content. So I think that is what
Speaker 1: we're getting to. That's what this fixer upper process is
Speaker 1: going to be. It's not always you know, it's going
Speaker 1: to be. He didn't have any photos in there from
Speaker 1: when they lost. You don't want those, but all of
Speaker 1: those moments he said, those teams, I said, we were
Speaker 1: you surprised when that Temple team became six us when
Speaker 1: he said no, not really, because even when we were losing,
Speaker 1: I felt like we had the right mindset and the
Speaker 1: right attitude and the right guys in the locker room.
Speaker 1: We just had to fix a couple of things and
Speaker 1: we did that and that took a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: but then we started winning and I love I mean,
Speaker 1: it is rough to hear as a Temple fan, but
Speaker 1: I'm not so I think it's kind of I was
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not, but Carson Smuckers rubbing off on me,
Speaker 1: our videographer, went to Temple, worked there for a while.
Speaker 1: He's a big Temple guy. Steve Smith. Steve Smith's like,
Speaker 1: who wins it? Temple? It's like it kind of hurts,
Speaker 1: but I mean it makes sense. It is a little
Speaker 1: bit of yeah, you're right. He made Temple relevant. Think
Speaker 1: about how much self belief you have to have to
Speaker 1: go through a season like one, eleven, two, and ten
Speaker 1: and then still feel like, Okay, I'm just trust me,
Speaker 1: We're gonna it's gonna get better. You know how hard
Speaker 1: that must be to like have all the players looking
Speaker 1: at you and administrators looking at you and being like, really,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? We've lost ten games in a row,
Speaker 1: you still believe in this thing. And and at two
Speaker 1: places where they do not win historic lee he did that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it's gonna go on the
Speaker 1: field here in Carolina. Nobody does all these things with
Speaker 1: with coaches coming from college to pro. Well, we'll find
Speaker 1: out soon enough, But you can't look at what he
Speaker 1: did at the college level and be anything but oppressed
Speaker 1: with the turnaround job he did at those two places,
Speaker 1: and Dave Tepper wants him to do it here at
Speaker 1: this level. Well, the big finale of the Fixer Uppers
Speaker 1: when they put the billboard up in front of the
Speaker 1: newly renovated house and they have the couple stand there,
Speaker 1: and then Chip and Joanna pull that billboard apart and
Speaker 1: there's a new house. That's not gonna happen for the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers until the beginning of the season. So this demo,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really long demo and rebuild
Speaker 1: here over this offseason, rebuilding this roster, seeing what it
Speaker 1: takes to be a Carolina Panther, and how Matt Rule
Speaker 1: is going to build this program. I would even say
Speaker 1: that they're going to get multiple houses out of this.
Speaker 1: We said that they're going to get to so even
Speaker 1: as revealed day happens at it may not be the
Speaker 1: perfect house for everyone, but it's the house that you're
Speaker 1: gonna live in and you're gonna keep building it and
Speaker 1: you're gonna make it better because the process has begun.
Speaker 1: We heard that from from David Tepper from the very
Speaker 1: beginning about this. He wants to coach that will put
Speaker 1: the process in place to make sure that this organization
Speaker 1: gets back to their championship ways. So I hope you
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Speaker 1: know we try and peel about the curtain and let
Speaker 1: you know how we found out and all the things
Speaker 1: that we did to make sure that we introduced Matt
Speaker 1: Rule to you in a way that would make you proud,
Speaker 1: make us proud, and make this Rule family have the
Speaker 1: best introduction to the Carolina Panthers and the fan base
Speaker 1: that we could. So thank you so much for joining us,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again next week,