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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into my audience Q and A right after

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Speaker 2: these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King. It's

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Speaker 2: me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one

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Speaker 2: of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.

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Speaker 2: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced

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Speaker 2: top rated programs such as eight seasons of the Real

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Speaker 2: House Spots in Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such

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Speaker 2: as Netflix Is Styling, Hollywood Owns number one rated Love

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Speaker 1: To name a few.

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Speaker 2: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit

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Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our

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Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are

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Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops, Now look,

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Speaker 2: I got a very special episode for y'all today. The

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Speaker 2: way y'all hit me up on Twitter, on the hotline,

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Speaker 2: on the email. Y'all have a lot of questions for me,

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Speaker 2: and as promised, I am dedicating today's episode to answering

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Speaker 2: all well, not all child because y'all send thousands, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get to the ones I feel will

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Speaker 2: resonate to my large audience. So today's episode, I'm answering

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Speaker 2: the tea the most pressing questions. This is Reality with

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Speaker 2: the King Q and A. The first question is from

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Speaker 2: Twitter handle at all lover Anthony. The question he wants

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Speaker 2: to ask is about the casting process and is there

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Speaker 2: ever a disagreement with you and the network on who

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Speaker 2: deserves a spot or to come back? The answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: Let me go back to the first season.

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Speaker 1: Of Love and Hip Hop Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: So when I was the co executive producer of Love

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Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Atlanta Season one, I was involved in

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Speaker 2: trying to finalize who the casting candidates would be along

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Speaker 2: with Mona Scott Young and the other producer. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we met with STEVIEJ and me. Me and I instantly

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Speaker 2: from the word go. Scrappy and Erica love scrappy. Erica

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Speaker 2: concerns about Erica Dixon because not everybody wakes up to

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Speaker 2: So Erica was like deer in the headlights. So we

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Speaker 1: But honey, it is Erica Dixon child. We gotta work

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Speaker 2: We had Stevie j and Mimi Scrappy and Erica Kirk

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Speaker 2: So Carly Rid auditioned to be on Love and Hip

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Speaker 2: and Mona had disputes about Carlely Mana was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about this Carli Red, I said, Mona, trust me.

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Speaker 2: Like Carlie Rid gives zero fucks, like I promise you.

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Speaker 2: I think Nini Leek should teach a class on how

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Speaker 2: So those are people who I think should write a

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Speaker 2: because they're the first of their kind, right, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: So to be a great reality TV star, you have

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Speaker 2: You have to be that level of authenticity and transparent.

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Speaker 2: The don't is you don't have to fight a bitch

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Speaker 2: We fight with our words, honey, not our fist. I

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Speaker 2: like to work with sophisticated individuals who know how to

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Speaker 2: portrayed and the show's ratchet. Okay, let's start with this

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Speaker 2: portrayal stuff. No one can add to words in your mouth, okay,

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Speaker 2: I think the problem is a lot of people try

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Speaker 1: If you want to be on a reality show.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is when you're so.

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Speaker 2: blame the producers, they blame the editors, they blame the network. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they blame everybody but the mirror. Like Michael Jackson said.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for the man and the mirror. That's what

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Speaker 2: See who you are, because all television is doing is

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Speaker 2: I was like, I want you to be a confident

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Speaker 2: at Tsha now she reads the girls, she addresses how

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Speaker 2: been on the show for four years. So to recap

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Speaker 2: for all your girls trying to be on a Carlos

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Speaker 2: King produce reality show, this is what your boy needs

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Speaker 2: in order for me to cast you. Okay, big personality,

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Speaker 2: You gotta have an interesting life. Okay, you gotta be authentic.

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Speaker 2: You can't be fake. This ain't Bad Girls Club or

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Speaker 2: sixty Days in So I don't need no fights, no

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Speaker 2: punch is blown, none of that.

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Speaker 1: This in what we do over here. Boo, don't try

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Speaker 1: to be Nini Leaks.

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Speaker 2: There's only one her baby and you other girls he

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Speaker 2: tried to be her, y'all have failed miserably. Okay, don't

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Speaker 2: try to be New York. Don't try to be Peter Thomas,

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Speaker 2: don't try to be Stevie j Be yourself and the

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Speaker 2: most important thing, Baby, don't blame the edit, because baby,

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Speaker 2: we can only show what you give. Stay tuned as

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Speaker 2: I answer more questions from you.

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Speaker 1: This is just getting good, y'all.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. This is

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Speaker 2: you think some shows franchises can become too invested or

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Speaker 2: let's go there. I think rivalries can start off being

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Speaker 2: quite naturally. Because Jocelyne was a stripper, Stevie J met

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Speaker 2: Joscelyne was then his artist, became his whatever you wanna

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Speaker 1: So the mem Jocelyn beef became very interesting.

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Speaker 2: And then I think at some point it became played

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Speaker 1: Because Mimi, you moved on to another guy.

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Speaker 2: And at this point, Stevie J is like Jocelyne's man,

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Speaker 1: But girls, it continued.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I do think some beefs should expire sooner

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Speaker 1: But I think it's the point of trying to like

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Speaker 2: A good example would be Kenya versus Phedra. Like again,

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Speaker 1: We've seen it.

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Speaker 2: It was great on bored We got to show something different,

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Speaker 2: On that cast trip, Phadrank Kenya having this reconciliation where

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Speaker 1: That damn Faed's funny at shit.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of this Kenya versus Phaedra.

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Speaker 1: I'm bored.

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Speaker 2: I was tired. You're Nani versus Kim for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The difference with that is this, they started off on

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Speaker 1: That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: So the other beefs that I felt like lasted way

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Speaker 1: It was people who truly met on the show.

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Speaker 2: So that's why it's kind of like, girlk it over

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Speaker 2: That's hard to do when it's a married couple. So

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Speaker 1: I don't script anything. I follow the reality.

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Speaker 2: And the reality is they had tons of arguments about

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Speaker 1: They probably would like to be. So that was the difference.

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Speaker 2: to recap, Yes, there is sometimes and I'm guilty of

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Speaker 1: But that's why.

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Speaker 2: One of the good things about Twitter is you get

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Speaker 2: And for my final question from at Camberly Liz, the

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Speaker 1: What areas need to be better and completely removed from.

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Speaker 2: The reality TV space. That's a very good question. I

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Speaker 2: whether it's constant fighting. I do think that's a very

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Speaker 1: If you like you like it, you love you love it?

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Speaker 2: But I do think people are looking for more authentic storytelling,

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Speaker 1: So the example would be love and marriage.

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Speaker 2: Huntsville became a huge hit due to the fact that

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Speaker 2: And that was a conscious effort for me as I

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Speaker 2: And that's why when it comes to me, I have

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Speaker 2: because that's what they want to see, and that's honestly

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Speaker 2: and that's what I think is the future of reality TV.

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