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We're gonna 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: be breaking down that big Game five between the Minnesota 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Timberwolves and the Denver Nuggets as Denver goes up three two, 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: one of the better playoff games that we've seen from 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: Nicole jokicch in his career. We're gonna break it all 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: down for those of you guys looking for a breakdown 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: of Knicks Pacers already did it. It's on the YouTube feed. 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Just got to go a little bit further back, broke 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: it down. Did some film in that one too, surrounding 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: Duce McBride and an action that the Knicks were spamming 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: at the beginning of that game to take advantage of 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: Tyres Haliburton in an opening in Indiana's coverage. To make 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: sure you don't miss that earlier on the feed hit 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: in Denver, Minnesota in this one, you guys are the 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: Joe before we get started. Subscribe to our brand of 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: YouTube channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: Follow me on Twitter at underscore JSNLT so you guys 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: don't misshow announcements. Don't forget about a podcast feed wherever 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts under hoops tonight, and then keep 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: dropping mailbag questions in the YouTube comments. We can keep 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: hitting them throughout the remainder of the postseason run. All right, 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. So the story of the game 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: early on was, I guess Michael Malone just got sick 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: of watching Anthony Edwards barbecue everybody that was the one 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: guy that they had no chance to guard. In terms 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: of the somewhat limited offensive personnel that Minnesota has. Again, 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: as we look throughout the large sample, they had a 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: very good offensive stretch through the four games against Phoenix 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: in the first two games of this series, but over 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: the large sample this season, this is the team that 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: has some limited offensive personnel, some guys that can score 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: when the circumstances are favorable, but when you start to 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: shut off the easy stuff, their limitations can be exposed, 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: right And so Michael Malone made a took a gamble 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: in this game giving some advantages to those players by 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: throwing extra bodies at Ant, super high drop coverage with 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic, to just make sure that Ant was almost 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: picking up his dribble every time he come off of 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: that ball screen or have to immediately take a retreat dribble, 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: which again, as soon as you take that retreat dribble, 73 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: there's no downhill four set play right then, anytime he 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: got some sort of favorable matchup in a one on 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: one situation, it was just a straight double team to 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: get the ball out of his hands. We've seen how 77 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Ant has destroyed this smaller Denver guards throughout the majority 78 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: of the series, and at the beginning of the game, 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Michael Maloney and the Nuggets paid the price for that, because, 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: as I talked about last game, Karl Anthony Towns as 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: like an actual shot creator, has some limitations in terms 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: of he can't really bully everybody, and then he ends 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: up exposing the basketball eventually and guys can kind of 84 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: swipe at it. We did a film breakdown after game four, 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: if you guys remember where I showed you guys some 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: examples of how Cat can kind of become easier to 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: guard in a static situation against a set defense. But 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: give him, you know, a guy closing out to him 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: in the corner, and he can pump bake and Aaron 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Gordon can fly by and then take a side step 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: into a three. 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: That's good. 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: If Aaron Gordon's didn't help elsewhere and he has an 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to attack a close out, that's good. 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Right. 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: Same goes for guys like Nikhil Alexander Walker, right, And 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: both of them had big bounce back games tonight. Nikile 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: Alexander Walker had four threes at fourteen points. Carl Town's 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: had twenty three points on over fifty percent shooting. 100 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: So early on they paid the price for. 101 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Doubling ant as the rest of Minnesota's offensive players benefited 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: from it and got into a rhythm. Right, And as 103 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, in the early second half, Minnesota 104 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: ends up taking a fifty five to fifty three lead, right, 105 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: and it starts to feel a little bit more like 106 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: Game one of this series. 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Right. 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: But we get a time out and Denver all postseason 109 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: long has just been a really good team. And this 110 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: is a testament, in my opinion, to coach Michael Malone, 111 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: who I think is starting to rise up the echelon 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: of NBA coaches. We're gonna have to take a deeper 113 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: look at that when we get to the offseason. But 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: he calls a time out, refocuses the guys. They immediately 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: come out. Aaron Gordon scores on a post up against 116 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns. They immediately go on eleven to two 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: run and regain control. The big thing I noticed was defense. 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: From there, they got their defense set. They were having 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: some issues in transition where when they didn't score, Minnesota 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: would push the ball in transition they wouldn't get their 121 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: high drop set. 122 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: You know. 123 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Transition defense principles tell you to take away the rim first. 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: And Jokich is an excellent transiit big who runs back, 125 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: and it's one of the things that it kind of 126 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: separates him from so many of the bigs around the 127 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: league is he just runs his lane and transition really well, 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: and he would run back in transition and there would 129 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: just be a unset defense for Minnesota to attack and 130 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: they'd have some success. Right they started to get some stops, 131 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: started to get their defense set. Those first few Minnesota 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: offensive possessions out of that time out. 133 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Were really ugly. 134 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: There was a Rudy Gobert post up of Nikola Jokic 135 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: in there where he ended up throwing a late you know, 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: basically a late grenade to Knikile Alexander Walker on the 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: left wing that he missed. There was like a random 138 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: Nikil Alexander Walker ball screen where he took a tough 139 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: contested mid range jump shot. Again, Minnesota's offensive personnel is 140 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: pretty limited, and when Denver really tightens the screws, they 141 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: can slow them down. And then they started going out 142 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: in transition. Aaron Gordon gets a big transition dunk. Jamal 143 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Murray to cap off the run gets a big transition dunk. 144 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 2: KCP hits a big three above the break in that sequence, 145 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray gets a layup in a two man game 146 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: with Nikolea Jokich. It's just classic Denver Nuggets basketball. And 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: you know, honestly, like that really has been the story 148 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: of this entire postseason for Denver. Every time they've run 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: into a problem or a situation, whether it's Game two 150 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: against the Lakers or down twenty, it's boom, timeout, quick adjustment, refocus, 151 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: lock in, and go on a run. They've just consistently 152 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: been able to do that. As a matter of fact, 153 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: that I was pulling the numbers on Synergy earlier, so 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: this is before tonight. Although they not only did they 155 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: score immediately after the timeout in the third quarter, there 156 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: was another one in the fourth quarter where Minnesota went 157 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: on a little run got it to ten, they immediately 158 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: came out of the timeout and scored. According to Synergy, 159 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: the Nuggets are scoring one point one seven points per 160 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: possession after timeouts, which is the best in the league 161 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: in this playoff run among remaining teams. As a matter 162 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: of fact, the Boston Celtics are second on that list 163 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: at one point zero four points per possession, so literally 164 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: a thirteen point per one hundred possession gap between Boston 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: and Denver at one to two in execution out of timeouts. 166 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: It's been a huge part of what has made this 167 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Denver team so good. They can get a little you know, 168 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: just like any other basketball team. They can have a 169 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: two or three possession stretch where they play some poor basketball, 170 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: maybe they don't get back in transition, maybe they take 171 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: a couple of bad shots. 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Things can get a little ugly. 173 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, here's a random Michael Porter junior, you know, 174 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: twenty seven foot heave pivoting over his left shoulder, right 175 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: or something like that. 176 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: But it's like there's always. 177 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: Just a timeout, a quick you know, Mike Malone get 178 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: on their case a little bit, and then they just 179 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: come out and they execute, and they and they do 180 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: what they need to do and they regain control of 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: the game. 182 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: That to me is a is. 183 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: A hallmark of championship basketball, the ability to execute when 184 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: you need to regain control of a situation that's slipping 185 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: out of your hands. I talk about this a lot, 186 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: but it's when things are going south that you tend 187 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: to fall back on who your actual core character is 188 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: as a basketball team. And so that's a consistent thing 189 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: for Denver every time things start to kind of get 190 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: a little wacky. They're really good at refocusing and regaining 191 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: control and making sure those runs get too much out 192 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: of hand. Not enough was made about Denver's defense this year. 193 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of talk I consistently said I 194 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: thought this Denver team was better than last year. I 195 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: saw a lot of people talking about, you know, the 196 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: bench not being as good, not having veterans like Bruce Brown, 197 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: or excuse me, like Jeff Green with like a really good, 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: kind of like sixth starter type of guy like Bruce 199 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: Brown coming off the bench. And the big thing that 200 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: I think people missed out on was this is a 201 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: team that was way more focused defensively from day one 202 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: of training camp. This was a top ten defense this year. 203 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: And again, like this was a team that wasn't a 204 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: top ten defense last year that kind of snapped into form. 205 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: They were a switch flipping team when they got into 206 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: the postseason. This team came into this year with a 207 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: level of focus that is not typical for a defending champion, right, 208 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: It's usually the opposite. 209 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: It's usually like the first. 210 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: Time you win, you're this top ten defense, and then 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: maybe you get some leeway as you're more of a 212 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: of a fringe defense in following seasons because you become 213 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: a switch flipping type of team. It's been very clear 214 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: that they've been locked in, honestly, Like I think the 215 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray injury this season and then losing to some 216 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: good teams got people off the scent a little bit 217 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: of Denver, but I think they've been generally locked in 218 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: the majority of the season. I want to talk about 219 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Nicole Yokich iss a score because she just had a 220 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: ridiculous scoring game. 221 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Obviously goes for forty points. 222 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: Was just every single time he saw Rudy Gobert on 223 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: his switch, his eyes just lit up. He saw barbecue 224 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: chicken and he immediately went to work. But I think, 225 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, I want to talk about the specifics of 226 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: what makes Jokic such a good score because we talked 227 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: about the touch right, and the touch is obviously a 228 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: big part of it. He's got a deadly hook shot 229 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: over both shoulders, really really good floater, has a little 230 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: bit of a turnaround jumper over both shoulders off of 231 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: like kind of funky footwork too, Like if he goes 232 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: over his left shoulder, it's like the Somber shuffle right 233 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: when it goes over his right shoulder. It's more of 234 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: a traditional right shoulder fade like you see from most 235 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: guards right where it's just a typical right left plant, 236 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, kind of rise up and shoot kind of thing. 237 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: But what I want to focus on is on his footwork. 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: You know. I thought it was really interesting. 239 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: There's a quote from Michael Malone after It was actually 240 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: before the game, and he was talking about adjustments, right, 241 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: and he said, quote, yeah, you make adjustments. Sometimes I 242 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: think too much is made of the adjustments. It's not 243 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: really what you're doing, it's how you do it. And 244 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: to me, you look at us in games one and 245 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: two compared to three and four, and our players had 246 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: a completely different disposition about themselves. So yes, maybe we 247 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: did some different things offensively and defensively, but give our 248 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: players credit because they realized what we were doing and 249 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: how and how we were doing it wasn't the answer. 250 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: So what I thought was really fascinating about that quote 251 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: is when we get when we finished game two, if 252 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: you guys remember I said, it's not even about basketball anymore, 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: like it can't be about basketball until you join the fight. 254 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: And really, the big thing that stood out to me 255 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: on film when we looked at Game three, was they 256 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: set better screens, particularly okitch opening tip just rocked Anthony 257 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: Edwards with a screen, right, and then Jamal Murray did 258 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: a much better job handling ball pressure and setting up 259 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: his man for screens, which allowed him to get more 260 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: separation from Jada McDaniels and Anthony Edward, which allowed their 261 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: offense to start working, and then even extending to the 262 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: defensive end of the floor, just like you know, guys 263 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: like KCP and Aaron Gordon sending early messages to air 264 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: to Karl Anthony Towns that he can't score on them 265 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: on an island, and just kind of tightening that defensive 266 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: pressure and making what was a mediocre offense all year 267 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: long look like the mediocre offense that they are in 268 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: a way that they did it in the first two games. 269 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't some magical adjustment. It's like, yeah, they ran 270 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: some more cleared side action, right, Like, there's some little 271 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: things that they did that were different, but the majority 272 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: of it was they just played better basketball. And what 273 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: I find fascinating about that is a lot of times 274 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: we focus on the spectacular when it comes to stars, 275 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Right we look at Kyrie, we talked about this crazy 276 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: dribble move that he made, right, We talked about Jason Tatum. 277 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: Here's this crazy step back three that he hits. We 278 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: talked about, you know, Steph Curry. It's this thirty footer 279 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: that he hits some transition off the mound. We talked 280 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: about Nicol Yokich. It's the Somber shuffle, this incredible fadeaway 281 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: jumper that he hits off a one leg leaning away 282 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: from the basket. 283 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: But usually the. 284 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: Most fundamentally sound players in the league are the best 285 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: players in the league. The vast majority of basketball those 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: are just dessert. The meat and potatoes of what makes 287 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: a good basketball player is excellent ball handling, excellent footwork, 288 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, understanding of angles and leverage when it comes 289 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: to contact situations. All these like really boring concepts that 290 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: make a basketball player more reliably great on a possession 291 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: by possession basis Jokic the primary driving force of what 292 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: makes him so unguardable in the post is that he 293 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: can consistently get to a short, easy shot. How do 294 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: you consistently get to a short easy shot through footwork? 295 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: Footwork is what allows you to weaponize your physical tools. 296 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys out there that have 297 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: a lot of physical tools that can't take advantage of them. 298 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Look at Rudy Gobert. 299 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: There was a play where he should have gotten called 300 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: for a travel in the second half where he caught 301 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: on the roll in front of Yo Kitch and just 302 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: quick shuffled before he made a kickout pass. It's because 303 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: he's so un coordinated with his feet that when he 304 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: needs to move his large frame into a specific spot 305 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: to do something with the basketball, he can't do that. 306 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Footwork is the chain that connects. 307 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Your natural gifts with the ability to actually get to 308 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,119 Speaker 2: spots on the floor, and Nicole Jokic has amazing footwork. 309 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: When you guard over, when you guard post players that 310 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: are bigger than you, it's all about disrupting the base. 311 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: I know this from my personal experience. When I played 312 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: in college, I was an undersized big I played a 313 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: lot of four and five at six six and twenty 314 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: five pounds, and so I was usually going against six 315 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: nine six ' ten athletes, but I was bigger and 316 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: stronger than them, and usually I just push on their 317 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: base and essentially, when they would try to get to 318 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: a spot and shoot some sort of shot, over the top. 319 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: I basically bump them off of that spot and make 320 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: it so that their energy transfer from the ground up 321 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: to their shot gets disrupted and then they take some 322 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: hook shot that they'd miss or something along those lines 323 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: that you can't do that with Jokic. His base is 324 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: not disruptible. When he goes downhill and he makes a 325 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: pivot move, the guy will try to cut him off 326 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: and try to bump him, and Yokic bumps you off. 327 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: That really is the core of all of it his 328 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: and that the ability to maintain your base is a 329 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: footwork thing. 330 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Right. 331 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: You're constantly playing off two feet right, Your feet are 332 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: moving around, and you constantly have to have both your 333 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: feet anchored in the ground so that when somebody bumps you, 334 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: you don't lose balance. And the only way you're gonna 335 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: be able to do that is if you constantly rep 336 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: out every single drop step to the left, drop step 337 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: to the to the right, every single step through, which 338 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: is basically just like a pivot over one shoulder, a 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: quick plant, and then another pivot towards the basket. Yo 340 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: kich is really good at like that kind of spin 341 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: move double pivot, where like he'll rotate over his left 342 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: shoulder and then duck back underneath and come back over 343 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: his left shoulder and finish and the whole time, if 344 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: you watch his feet, he quick shuffles and quicks plant, 345 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: quick plants, but he's always back on two feet so 346 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: that no one can shove him off of his spot. 347 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: And so when you got a guy like Rudy Gobert, 348 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: he's got some length, right, he's got some height. He 349 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: has the ability to meet Jokic up top. But what 350 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: Jokic does is he disrupts go Bear's base and gets 351 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: him off of his stable foundation where he can jump 352 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: and meet Jokic up top. And so as a result, 353 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: when Jokic goes to shoot, Phil Bear is groundbound. He's 354 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: groundbound because Jokicic just bumped him right at the time 355 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: that he would typically jump to try to make a play. 356 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: He is a master of physical leverage in footwork. 357 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: That is such a boring thing that doesn't make highlight reels, 358 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: That isn't going to be something that is fun to 359 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: work on when you go to the gym, But that 360 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: is the kind of thing that will make you unguardable. 361 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: When you have physical tools. 362 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: That is what allows you if you're a young basketball 363 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: player out there and you happen to be a big 364 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: guard or a big wing or a big center. If 365 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: you don't rep out the footwork, you will play smaller 366 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: than the size that you bring to the table. And 367 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: when you connect that footwork piece with real shot making, 368 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: you can become an unstoppable scorer. When you become an 369 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: unstoppable score, you will start to bring multiple defenders. When 370 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: you bring multiple defenders and you learn to read the floor, 371 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: then you become truly unguardable. And Jokics just has that 372 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: unique combination of like transcendent physical size, like he's just 373 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: so much bigger than everybody that tries to guard him, 374 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: incredible detail footwork and fundamental like a fundamental foundation of 375 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: his skills, and then outstanding touch within ten fifteen feet 376 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: of the rim. Right we talked about Game four, he 377 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: was ten for fifteen within five feet and fourteen feet 378 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: from the basket. He is deadly in that range. He's 379 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: going to knock you off balance, get to a spot, 380 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: and get to a shot. It seemed like it was 381 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: personal tonight. Every single time he had an opportunity to 382 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: go at go bear he did. 383 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: It was just you know, again. 384 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: I talked about this after game two, like, I was 385 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: really interested to see how Yo kids would respond to 386 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: the adversity. Anthony Edwards straight up made a play for 387 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: his spot. He basically was like, you're the best player 388 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: in the world. That's great. Me and my team were 389 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: punking you. You guys can't guard me. I'm coming for 390 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: your spot. And Jokic said, hell, no, you're not, and 391 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: he resoundingly reaffirmed his position as the best player in 392 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: the league. I think he has the largest chasm between 393 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: him and the second best player since Lebron in the 394 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: early twenty tens. And you could argue it's even bigger 395 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: than that. He like, have you seen anybody play basketball 396 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: this year that has been able to reach the level 397 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: that Nikol Jokich has been at in the last three games, 398 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 2: Like I would argue this is a higher level than 399 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: he's ever been at. And that's the beauty of adversity. 400 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: And this is why I love when there's true parody 401 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: in the game and you don't see a team just 402 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: run rough shot over the league and win fifteen straight 403 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: playoff games, because when this team is down to oh 404 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: and legacies are on the line and people are talking 405 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: shit for three days in the media and all of 406 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: that is coming down on you. That is what pushed 407 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Nikole Jokicic to this level. It required adversity to bring 408 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: out another level of nikol Jokich that we had not 409 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: seen before, and I've thoroughly enjoyed watching it. Last guy 410 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: for Denver, I wanted to shout out before we move on, 411 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: Contavious Callbo Pope. I thought every single shot he hit 412 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: in this you know it's funny. Did you guys remember 413 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: that Jada McDaniel's quote about Jamal Murray talking about how 414 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: his shots were loud, Like I thought that was the 415 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: textbook example of that kind of game from KCP only 416 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: sixteen points. 417 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Every shot he hit was loud. 418 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Hit a huge three above that of the above the break 419 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: during that eleven to two run after the timeout when 420 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Minnesota went up fifty five to fifty three. Hit two 421 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: massive corner threes in the fourth quarter when Minnesota was 422 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: trying like hell to get back into the game. He's 423 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: been amazing defensively throughout the series, despite being kind of 424 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: physically overmatched in his individual matchup. He hasn't really had 425 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: many moments in this series. I thought he had a 426 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: big moment here in Game five. Last note before before 427 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: we kind of go into some closing thoughts I had. 428 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Celtics fans just kind of 429 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: starting to jump on Anthony Edwards's case after he had 430 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: a bad game. Here's the thing coming into tonight, the 431 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: average thirty two to seven and six on sixty seven 432 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: percent tru shooting against outstanding competition on a team that 433 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: desperately needs him to score because they are a severely 434 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: limited offensive team. He's also twenty two years old. They're 435 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: going to be growing pains along the way. Is he 436 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: gonna need to figure out how to be more effective 437 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: in games when he gets double teamed like this? 438 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right. 439 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: Like, I actually think that Mike Michael Malone looked at 440 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: the situation and goes, oh, Mike Conley's not playing. Well, 441 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: if Mike Conley's not playing, there's not a like a 442 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: really really high IQ offensive player on the floor other 443 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: than Anthony Edwards, So like we might as well just 444 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: get the ball out of his hands and make these 445 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: guys play off of him. I really think that that 446 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: was the read that Michael Malone played. It's very possible 447 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 2: we see a different coverage if Mike Conley's out there, 448 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: especially given the fact that even though Ant was so 449 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: effective in Game three, in Game four, the rest of 450 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: the offense for Minnesota was so dead on arrival. Again, 451 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: I was talking about and comparing him to Jason Tatum 452 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: as it pertains to the future of American basketball basketball players. 453 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: I like Jayson Tatum a lot. I have no issues 454 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: with him at all whatsoever. I think he's probably somewhere 455 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: around the seventh, eighth, ninth best player in the league. 456 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: I actually think that he's good enough to win a 457 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: title with this Boston Celtics team, considering how much talent 458 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: he's surrounded with. All I said is he's not capable 459 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: of being better than Nikola Jokic. Anthony Edwards, at age 460 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: twenty two, at least has that potential. Anthony Edwards has 461 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: more upside, and at this point in his career, I'm 462 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: really enjoying watching his development. I'm really enjoying watching his rise. 463 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: He's probably my favorite player in the league right now 464 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: to watch and cover. I just think I love his personality. 465 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be so good for our game 466 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: for a really long time. I think I think America 467 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: desperately needed somebody to kind of take the reins from 468 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: that Lebron Steph KD group. And again, like as good 469 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: as Jason Tatum is, I just don't think he had 470 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: that upside. I don't think that he has that personality either. 471 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: And that's all it was. It was more of a 472 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: pro ampt thing than an anti Jason Tatum thing. But 473 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like he had a 474 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: rough game, he had a rough game against the defense. 475 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: Did you guys hear that interview at the start of 476 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Michael Malone straight up came out and said, 477 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: our entire defensive game plan is to stop and he 478 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: straight up said that he's We're throwing different looks at him, 479 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: We're throwing second defenders at it. Like, straight up said that, 480 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: what does that tell you? Michael Malone took a gamble tonight. 481 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna get the ball out of Anthony Everard's hands 482 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: and just try to make someone else beat us, and 483 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: someone else did and it was fifty five to fifty 484 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: three in the second half, when in the two games 485 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: in Minnesota they weren't even competitive. So again, Anthony Edwards's 486 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: Gigantic Gravitational presence on the court as this unguardable two 487 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: guard caused Michael Malone to compromise his own defense, and 488 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: it actually allowed Minnesota to be more competitive than they 489 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: had been in the previous two games. And yeah, you're right, 490 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: I do think he can handle it better, and I 491 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: do think he's capable of taking more and more leaps 492 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: as a playmaker, more and more leaps. It's kind of 493 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: a half court surgeon, like I talked about, right, But 494 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: like again, here's what I think is lame jumping on 495 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards's case and trying to rewrite the rise of 496 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: this phase of his career when he averaged thirty two 497 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: to seven and six against an entirely different class of 498 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: opponent than what Boston has been playing in the first 499 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: two rounds out in the Eastern Conference, and on sixty 500 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: seven percent true shooting. By the way, Jason Tatum again 501 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: last night shot below forty five percent from the field. 502 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 2: He's done it in every single playoff game this year 503 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: except for one. So like again, like I don't, it's 504 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: not I think it's it's completely ridiculous to just flip 505 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: the script and turn on Anthony Edwards in a bad 506 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: game that mostly had to do with the game plan. 507 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: The reality is, in my opinion, as we look forward 508 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: in this series at three two Denver, Minnesota can't score 509 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: against Denver's defense when they're really locked in and engaged. 510 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how they solve that problem. I think 511 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: it's really hard to beat a team four times in 512 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: a row. So I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota won 513 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Game six. 514 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: But it's hard for. 515 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: Me to imagine Minnesota winning two in a row at 516 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: this point. Win for three consecutive games, Denver has basically 517 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: rendered their offense useless. I don't know how they go 518 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: from there, but I can't count them out obviously, just 519 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: really difficult to beat a team four times in a row. 520 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: Obviously we're likely to get a bounced back game from 521 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. It's going to be a ROCKUS crowd. Elimination 522 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: games in general are tough. Denver's been playing with all 523 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: the urgency and intensity that is now going to shift 524 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: back towards Minnesota at this point. So I do think 525 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be a tough game, but I'm going 526 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: to go with Denver and six. I saw someone on 527 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: Twitter refer to it as the Gangster sweep. It's interesting 528 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: because it's the sweep, the gentleman sweep, which is when 529 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: you win four to one, and I guess the definition 530 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: of the gangster sweep is you lose your first two 531 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: at home and then you win four straight with three 532 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: being on the road. Obviously, they still need to do it, 533 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: but that would be pretty epic because I think think 534 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: all games have been by double digits. Yeah, they won 535 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: by fifteen tonight, and I'm pretty sure Game three and 536 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: four were by double digits, So that would be that 537 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: would whoever whoever coined that term, I should have I 538 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: should have quoted whoever that was, But that I did 539 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: think was funny. But hopefully I will see if Denver 540 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: can pull off the gangster sweep here in a couple 541 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: of days. I don't want to get too far into 542 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: the nitty gritty in this game, really, because the last 543 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: couple of games, Game four in Indiana and Game five 544 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: in New York, were mostly just about effort. In Game four, 545 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: the Knicks looked exhausted and the Pacers ran them out 546 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: of the gym, and they played limited minutes and came home. 547 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: And that was also a much earlier start in the 548 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: day On Sunday, if you guys remember, So they got 549 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: like a substantially larger amount of rest compared to what 550 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: they got between Game three and Game four. They're also 551 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: coming home also having lost two in a row. The 552 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: desperation shifts heavily towards the Knicks. The Pacers have a 553 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: little bit of come knowing that it's two to two 554 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: and you've got another game at home, right, and the 555 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: Knick's just kind of capitalized on that. You know, there 556 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: was a quote that I saw from the pregame presser 557 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: from Mike Malone tonight, Michael Malone, head coach of the 558 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, and he said, quote, yeah, you make adjustments. 559 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes I think too much is made of the adjustments. 560 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: It's not really what you're doing, it's how you do it. 561 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: And to me, you look at us in games one 562 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: and two, and compared to games three and four, our 563 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: players had a completely different disposition about themselves. So, yes, 564 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: maybe we did some things, some different things offensively and defensively, 565 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: but give our players credit because they realized what we 566 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: were doing and how we were doing it wasn't the answer. 567 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: And I thought that was really fascinating because I said 568 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: the same thing after Game two of that series, the 569 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: one really about basketball, Denver just had not really joined 570 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: the series physically, And like we're going to talk about 571 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: some specific x's and those things that took place in 572 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: today's game, like Duce McBride joining the starting lineup, how 573 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: that allowed the the Knicks to attack Tyres Halliburton, you know, 574 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson kind of getting that early fallon Aaroni Smith, 575 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: leading him to Rick Carlisle to shift to Andrew and 576 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Embard on the ball, and some stuff about Tyres Haliburton 577 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: being kind of passive. We're going to get into some 578 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: of the basketball stuff, but none of that played nearly 579 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: as big of a role as just the Knicks brought 580 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more force tonight. They just 581 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: played better basketball, and the Pacers did the same thing 582 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: in Game four. We have a tendency and I've noticed 583 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: this for a long time in the realm of basketball analysis, 584 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: and like, tactics are an important part of basketball analysis, 585 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: but I agree with Michael Malone. I think it's leaned 586 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: on a lot a lot more than it probably actually 587 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: relates to the outcomes of a lot of these games. Say, 588 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: for instance, the story of this game is going to 589 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: be duce McBride joining the starting lineup, and everything he 590 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: did tonight guarding Tyres Halliburton, the attacking Haliburton when he 591 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: was hedging and blitzing and deuced me Bride like quickly 592 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: kind of like slipping out of those actions. Right, But 593 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: here's the thing. They got off to a twenty to 594 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: fourteen start. The Pacers were up twenty to fourteen in 595 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: this game. So like like in duce McBride still was 596 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: playing a lot. We said after I think it was 597 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: in game three, I said, now that Ojan and Obi's out, 598 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: the best five man group that the Knicks have is 599 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: Duce McBride, Dante DiVincenzo, Josh hart Jalen Bronson, and Isaiah Hartenstein. 600 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: Like we've already known that was the five best guys. 601 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, honestly, the Knicks energy didn't even really 602 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: start to take over in this game until the middle 603 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: to late first quarter. And so again, like it's important 604 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: for us to talk about the tactics. I think it's 605 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: a really good thing for us all to learn more 606 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: about so that we can have a better understanding of 607 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: what's taking place on the court. But make no mistake, 608 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: generally speaking, the team that wins it has more to 609 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: do with who's playing the best basketball and all these 610 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: little fundamental areas, who's cutting harder, who's running in transition harder, 611 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: who's sliding their feet better on the ball, who's setting 612 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: better screens, who's being sharper when they're with their decision making, 613 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: who's doing a better job attacking closeouts and making reads 614 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: like those are usually the things that determine who wins 615 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: the game more so than any sort of tactic, right. 616 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: You know, like I literally thought that the Nuggets turned 617 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: the Minnesota series around literally just by setting way better 618 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: screens and handling ball pressure better. I thought those were 619 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: the two things that helped Jamal Murray break free more often, 620 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: which allowed Denver's offense to function in a way it 621 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: wasn't functioning in the first two games of the series. 622 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: And so again I think like these last two games 623 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: have been a good example of that. Do you think 624 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Indiana had a magic adjustment in Game four? Do you 625 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: think the Knicks had a magic adjustment here in Game five? No, 626 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: they just the Pacers played better basketball in Game four 627 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: and the Knicks played better basketball in Game five. On 628 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: that note, let's talk a little bit about some of 629 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: the specific basketball dynamics that took place. 630 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: In this game. 631 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: So Deuce McBride did an amazing job defending Tyris Halliburn 632 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: and played him into some of his worst tendencies, which 633 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: have to do being passive and not looking to score enough. 634 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that in a 635 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: little bit when we get to the Pacers. The big 636 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: thing that duce McBride was helping with was he was 637 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: being guarded by Tyre's Halliburton. And there's two things that 638 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: you absolutely have to be able to do when you're 639 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: being guarded by a player who that specific player's team 640 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: is going to ask him to hedge and recover or 641 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: to blitz. Basically meaning when that player comes off the screen, 642 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburton is either going to jump out to cut 643 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: off the driving lane or jump out to blitz, meaning 644 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: leaving duce McBride. You have to be able to hit 645 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: threes quickly while sliding your feet out of the screen 646 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: and quickly getting set up at the three point line. 647 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: And two, you have to be able to make quick 648 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: decisions when the defense reacts to you. And duce McBride 649 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: just did an amazing job of that in this game, 650 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: hitting those threes on the pick and pop out of 651 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: the hedge and recover in the blitz, and then also 652 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: when the rotation would come to him making that next 653 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: pass in the line to the next shooter that might 654 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: be open. He just did an incredible job and it 655 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: gave Jalen Brunson an action that he could spam to 656 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: consistently generate quality shots for the nixt Tonight, Jalen Brunson 657 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: was amazing again, another forty plus point night. Was just 658 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: cooking in Iso all night long. You could tell that 659 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: additional rest really helped him. He just had more lift 660 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: than he did in Game four. He got Brick Carlisle 661 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: to bail on Aaron Nesmith with about eight minutes and 662 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: thirty seconds left in the first quarter after he picked 663 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: up a foul on him on an and one. The 664 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: Pacers were up twelve to nine at that point and 665 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: Brunson had only made one field goal. But I guess 666 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: that Rick Carlile was mainly just thinking, let's try to 667 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: avoid getting let's try to avoid picking up that second foul, 668 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: and we just know Jalen Brunson's really comfortable against Andrew 669 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: Nemhard He had an in. 670 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: And out dribble on him where he literally like in. 671 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: And outed Hardy nevvrd W was flying off the screen 672 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: to the right, and Brunson just had like a wide 673 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: open layup, like he's just really comfortable in that matchup. 674 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: He got going then even when Niesmith came back on him, 675 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: he kind of was a little bit more comfortable and 676 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: in rhythm. Like I talked about before, he was really 677 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: picking on Tyre's house Burton screens. By the way, I 678 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: have four clips of film I'm going to show you 679 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: guys at the end of the show to kind of 680 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: demonstrate some of the specifics with Duce McBride, you know, 681 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: kind of making Tyres Saliburton pay for his hedges and 682 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: his blitzes. Tyr's Saliburton's pasivity. So every archetype of basketball player, 683 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: in my opinion, has a weakness. Right, There's like pros 684 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: and cons that come to every personality type. It's no 685 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: different with like than like, I'm a pretty OCD guy, right, 686 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like my obsessive focus on 687 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: stuff makes it so that I can be sometimes oblivious 688 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: to things that are happening around me. Right, You know 689 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: I I have a certain way that I organize a 690 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: simple thing. My wife had to borrow my truck to 691 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: go to Low's the other day, and I took my 692 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: basketball bag out of that truck to take it take 693 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: her car instead. Then when I went back into my truck, 694 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: I didn't take my basketball bag with me. So the 695 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: last two times I went to the gym early, because 696 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: I always go to the gym early to do my 697 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: shooting workout before I play, I didn't have my basketball bag. 698 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: I was like super frustrated. But it's because I'm such 699 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: a creature of habit that anytime anything kind of disrupts 700 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: my rhythm, my whole life tends to fall apart, you 701 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it's a downside of my personality. 702 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: But the upside is my OCD leads to me getting 703 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: into really good rhythms, and so I'm really good at 704 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: like kind of keeping a daily routine which helps me 705 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: be a better basketball player. It helps me run a 706 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: better show. Like there's upsides and there's downsides, right, same 707 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: thing goes with basketball players, Like if you're a high 708 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: motor player, usually that helps you bring energy when your 709 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: team needs it, and it can you know, invigorate your team. 710 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: But at the same time, those guys tend to gamble 711 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: a lot, they tend to make mistakes, they tend to 712 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: foul too much. That's those are all characteristics of high 713 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: motor players because they're always going one hundred miles an hour. 714 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Super emotional guys like they can They can get their 715 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: team to kind of meet them at a level emotionally, 716 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: which can be a good thing. They can also get 717 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: the other team to overreact to things and get caught 718 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: up in some of the emotional elements, but as we know, 719 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: that can lead to technicals overly physical play getting themselves 720 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: ejected or suspended. Right, that's a down side of the 721 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: super emotional players. Right assassin minded scorers that are always 722 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: looking for their own shot. They can get hot and 723 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: they can carry you home, but they can also miss 724 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: easy reads and play their teammates out of rhythm. Right 725 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: pass first offensive engines like a Tyrese Halliburton, other players 726 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 2: like Nikole jokicch Lebron James when he was in his prime. 727 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: Those pass first guys, they can keep everyone in rhythm 728 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: and control the offense, and they're usually like offensive engines 729 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: that can really lead an offense to a high level, 730 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: almost individually, but they sometimes can be too passive. There 731 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: were moments in Lebron's career where he needed to look 732 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: to shoot, but instead he would make the right play right. 733 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: There were times where early in the Timberwolf series where 734 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: you're like, why is Nikola Jokic passing out a single 735 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: coverage and he's like, but you even hear him after 736 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: the game, it's like, maybe we should trust the pass more. 737 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: It's like it's programmed into their basketball identity, right. And 738 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: with Tyre's Halliburton, he takes nine shots tonight, and take 739 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: nine shots on the road in a two to two 740 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: game when you're offense is struggling to score. That's part 741 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: of your job as the offensive engine. He's been taking 742 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: eleven threes a game over the last few weeks and 743 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: hitting over forty percent of them, and he only took 744 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: four of them tonight. Now, some of that is a 745 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: credit to Douce McBride, but again there's a certain part 746 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: of that where like tyrese just like Lebron did over 747 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: the course of his career, just like Jokic did in 748 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: this series, and we know that he's capable of Tyree's 749 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: part of his development is going to be understanding that 750 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: there are times when he has to be aggressive and 751 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: there are going to be times when he has to 752 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: look to score. And he's been a little inconsistent, especially 753 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: on the road in this playoff run. In that regard 754 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: first playoff run really as the leader of his team, 755 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: obviously there's going to be some growing pains along the way. 756 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: I thought tonight was an example of him being overly passive. 757 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 2: I think the Pacers will probably extend this series to seven, 758 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: just because it's a shorthanded mixed team and they're really undersized, 759 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: and it's difficult to win on the road when you 760 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: have physical disadvantages. Can't count the Knicks out, though they 761 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: certainly can win Game six, but I am sticking with 762 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: my pick pick for the Knicks to win the series. 763 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: I just think they'll probably do it in seven. The 764 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: volume