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Speaker 1: Welcome in the Jaguars reporters presented by Bonos, Pitt Barbecue

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Speaker 1: and Cadillac. After Day two of NFL Draft, jaf Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: John Osier, Ashlan Sullivan, Brian Sexton and the Jaguars have

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Speaker 1: added a few players here on day two. First off, Brian,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Jacksonville. Oh you know, look at Cleveland

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Speaker 1: is not my ideal site for the draft anyway. The

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Speaker 1: weather conditions I think proved that. Uh today, trying to

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Speaker 1: once to go to delayed. I mean, it was just

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Speaker 1: it was one of those days. And of course it's

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Speaker 1: a big day for the franchise because Trevor Lawrence Land.

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Speaker 1: So luckily for me, I was following all of your

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Speaker 1: was quite a scene Ashland today when those guys showed up,

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Speaker 1: greeted outside the gates by a bunch of school kids

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Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get run over out there.

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Speaker 1: There was kids everywhere. Everyone was yelling gosh. It's almost

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Speaker 1: like he was a franchise quarterback. Show it up or something.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear Ashlan's perspective because I attended the

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Speaker 1: press conferences, so I saw glimpses of Trevor Lawrence, but

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Speaker 1: Ashland had much more boots on the ground. If you will,

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Speaker 1: your impressions of Trevor Lawrence um everything. You would have

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Speaker 1: thought that he would be on no secret that he's

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Speaker 1: And you could tell that he didn't want all of

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Speaker 1: his teammates. And he said, as cool as this day was,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is a lot, this is

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Speaker 1: a lot on me. I thought. The coolest thing is

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Speaker 1: poster ready for Travis, like absolutely, just taking all of

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Speaker 1: that attention and putting it on his teammate. And that

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Speaker 1: says it all good stuff. And Bryan, that's what we expected.

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Speaker 1: It's what we've always heard about and talked about, I

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Speaker 1: analyzed all the way up to the draft. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: Last week I was with those kids at at Long

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Speaker 1: that seems like last week. Uh, And it's funny. I

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Speaker 1: time the week is over, they are locked in a

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans because of this kid. Um, It's been an

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Speaker 1: interesting week to say the least, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And of course now Travis Eatian showed up today as

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Speaker 1: well as teammate, and you know, similar impressions right pretty

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Speaker 1: and on an outstanding performer on the field, John, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the all time leading rusher in the A c C

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Speaker 1: there's so much focused on Trevor Lawrence that you almost

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Speaker 1: things that already been confirmed. I didn't know that much

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Speaker 1: they're absolutely incredible in terms of what was seventy eight

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Speaker 1: T N was more of the Heisman favorite, if you will,

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Speaker 1: because of the numbers he produced, and by saying he

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Speaker 1: because he's a running back. But this kid produced and

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Speaker 1: Clearly they went after high character leadership guys. That's evident

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Speaker 1: And I think Trent Bulky just said it great in

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't worked at it and showed that work ethic.

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Speaker 1: Brian you know what strikes me JP is how how

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Speaker 1: the reason I say it is because Dabs Whinney was

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Speaker 1: He was talking about the quarterback who never wanted anything

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Speaker 1: And of course we know the names that they had

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Speaker 1: today from from the selections that they've made. Jaguar's reporters

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Speaker 1: daph Shattercash and Sullivan, John Osan, Brian Sexon. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to those picks today. Tyson Campbell, the corner out of

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Speaker 1: it really fills out now that cornerback room. There're already

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Speaker 1: there are a couple of themes in the picks today.

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Speaker 1: They clearly believed that they addressed defensive line in free agency.

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Speaker 1: he'll have to earn it, but they will want him

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Speaker 1: We've been saying since this pick was made, there's this

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