1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You're about to hear a clip from one of our 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Patreon exclusive episodes. To hear the entire episode, sign up 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com. Slash, Jenkins and Jones, could 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: you give us a thirty second explanation of what happened 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: and that we can talk about, you know at the 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: endless discourse, truly endless discourse. That ha come sentence. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: So background story, Jaguars, they lose that playoff game with 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: their their first year head coach, who did an incredible 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: turnaround job this season led them to the playoffs. Like 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: I said, they were one of the hottest teams in 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: the in the league, turned Trevor Laws into the Trevor 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: Laws that everyone wanted him to be in one season, right. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: And so in the postgame presser, you know, folks are 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: asking their question blah blah blah, and we hear this 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: lovely voice of an angel that we've never heard on 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: a national level before, who tells him, you know, hey, 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: keep your head up, we're proud of you. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: You to one do ball. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: We'll see you next season. And journalists lost their fucking mind. 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: They lost their fucking mind. I honestly, legitimately did not 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: think we'll get this big, like I feel like the 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: It got retweeted by Adam Schefter and Am Scheffeld like 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: this is an incredible moment. 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: And then the the. 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Beat reporter for the Steelers, who was Who's who, I 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: like quote tweeted that's prior I think her name was, 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: who was like, you know, this is unacceptable. You know, 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: reporters are there to ask questions and to see what's 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: next and all that, and I quote tweet her, I 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: was like, I disagree, And I was like, my whole 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: thing is you know, this was not some kid from 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Bleacher Report from Ohio who got flown in for this game. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: This is a local reporter who has been covering jackson 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: that Jacksonville community for twenty plus years, who was an 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: associate editor at the Free Black newspaper in that in 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: that city, who was a pillar of that community. And 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: she and and and and you know, as you know, 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: to counter what that reporter said about reporters there to 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: ask questions, I don't solely believe. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: I believe that local reporters, at times you need to be. 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: The mouthpiece of your fandom, of your community, because when 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: you're covering sports locally, it's bigger than just the exes 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: and O's, bro, you are covering community, you are covering 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: a shared kinship in that city, you know. And for 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: her to say, hey, we're proud of you, keep your 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: head up, there's nothing to be ashamed of. 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: That was factual. That is how that community feels. 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: And she was speaking for her community in that moment, 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: and everyone was like, you know, the the journalists, they 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: overplayed their hand on this. 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: This was the angle. They kept trying to hammer it 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: down on us. 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: They kept trying to act like you didn't know the 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: rules of journalism. One one, we're supposed to be a 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: partial We fucking know that. But bro, those rules should 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: be bent at times when you especially when you were 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: dealing with the Jacksonville Jaguars. There are very few cities 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL who loved their team as much as 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: the Jaguars, right, a very short list, and that is 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: a fan base that has been searching for hope for 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: thirty fucking years. And you get this first year coach 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: who comes in, turns things around, turns your quarterback into 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: the number one overall picked the Franchi's got you wanted 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: to be. 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: He becomes the the. 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: An embodiment of the glimmer of hope that these fans 67 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: have been praying for. I think you can bend the 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: rules for the last question and the last presser for 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: a local Jagsonville, you know, community reporter to say. 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm speak for our community here. We're proud of you. 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: This is a hug from us and embracing and welcoming 72 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: you into the fold of this community where football means 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: so much to us and the job you did was 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: incredible and you're one of us now. I think that 75 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: that was an incredible moment because I personally think that 76 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: sports at their best, sports journalism at his best is 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: when it highlights, you know, what sports me to us 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: on an emotional and a communal level. And that's exactly 79 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: what that moment was. That was that was that was 80 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: miss miss Jones, Lynn Jones, speaking for that community saying, 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, football means so much to us and you 82 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: did an incredible job and we're happy to have you. 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: And that's it, bro. And then these journalists lost their 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: fucking minds. They lost their fucking minds. And I want 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: to say I'm not someone who's anti sports journalists. I 86 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: love of fucking sports journalists. Like when when you know Mike, 87 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: like you shared that story in the chat today about 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins, you know, going away on speech that he 89 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: gave the locker room when when when a when a 90 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: big incident happens in sports, my first thing is I 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: can't wait for you know, a reporter to give us 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: the insights. Like when that Chris Faul should hapen, I 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: was like, bro, please sit an alarm when we get 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: to write up on what happened behind the scenes there. 95 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I think sports journalists serve a great purpose. 96 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: I also think that like s VP had a great 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: spill where he was like, bro, what we do is 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: not that serious. We are covering a game, and I 99 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: think so many folks like you can take your job 100 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: seriously while still having the perspective of it's not that serious. 101 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: Like we're podcasters. 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: You know, you shut your mouth podcast you know what 103 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: I mean? Like, we are podcasters, and you know what 104 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: we take We take podcasts serious because our listeners are 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: paying us for this, right like we we we we 106 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: commit to the appearances, you know, we commit to the schedule. 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: We take the the the commitment of being podcast seriously. 108 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: But you think we take podcasting seriously as they do. 109 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: You think we will call this ship art form. 110 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: You think we would tell people who criticize bought them 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: unless you've done a podcast, you can't that bullshit. 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Like, Bro, it was just and the thing is, this 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: is what really killed me. 114 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: This is what really really really killed me after all 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: of this, this this big ass fiasco behind this Jacksonville 116 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Jaggs presser. Right Monday night, we get Steelers Texas and 117 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, all right, y'all talk reporters, meet it, 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: y'all talked all the ship about what should be done 119 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: in these postgame presses? 120 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: What what what? What? What? 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: We have no space for whatever? And they went out 122 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: there him that was that was their game seven. They 123 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: went out there and put up a stinker. Amaron Rogers 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: stormed off, fat motherfucker because the question was so terrible. 125 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: They asked him the same questions twice about about how 126 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 2: he thought about Mike Tomlin. After he gave a fucking 127 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: minute and a half soliloquy the first time, he was 128 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: asked the reporter at hand, who who really can started 129 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: this whole thing? 130 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Beth Pryor, She asked him