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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 1: was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's g Kenny Florian. God,

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Speaker 3: you are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: And we hope you all had a great weekend.

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Speaker 4: It is Monday, April sixteenth, twenty eighteen, Episode one point

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Speaker 4: fifty two of the Anak and Florian Podcast. You got

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Speaker 4: a couple hosts who feel like they got drilled by

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Speaker 4: a linebacker this morning, so imagine how Justin Gaegee and

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Speaker 4: Dustin Torier feel. But I hit that red eye right

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Speaker 4: out of Arizona after the show. I know you've been

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Speaker 4: on battle Bots duty, so so you were burning that

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Speaker 4: midnight oil watching this main card late Sunday evening just

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Speaker 4: to be ready for the goddamn Annik and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: I got it, dude. I didn't want to be unprepared

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Speaker 5: like sometimes.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, So it's Patriots Day, right, Boston Marathon.

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked in the past about running

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Speaker 1: this thing.

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Speaker 4: We are lifelong Bostonians, at least we lived our thirty

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Speaker 4: So I suggested maybe twenty nineteen. I think that's going

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Speaker 4: to be too soon, Kenny, for us to run the

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Speaker 4: Boston Math.

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Speaker 5: I've always wanted to run it, I really have. Maybe

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Speaker 5: we should train for that'd be cool, raise some money

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Speaker 5: for something, and.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe we'll train for a half and then

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Speaker 4: if we think we can and.

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Speaker 1: Go from there.

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Speaker 5: I mean these are still connected, yeah, to our femurs

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean you got guys like Cameron Haynes. Their average

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Speaker 4: Tuesday is like running a marathon, right, So I think

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Speaker 4: we need to just honkors some inner demons and figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to do it. Maybe twenty twenty is

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Speaker 4: more realistic. I know you got a baby. I might

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Speaker 4: even have a third one coming, I'm not sure. So

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Speaker 4: I think we should just table that goal until.

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty is realistic. I think we could do it.

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Speaker 5: We won't have legs after, but I know we will not.

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Speaker 4: And about how about the fact that I know you're

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Speaker 4: short of just getting up here and it's early West

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Speaker 4: Coast time. But I don't know if you've seen what's

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Speaker 4: going on in Boston. The Patriots stay Red Sox game

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Speaker 4: has already been canceled. It's one hundred percent chance. It's

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Speaker 4: a mess, not a good day.

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Speaker 1: It's a role too. Marathon wind wind Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Thirty four degrees for the Red Sox game at Fenway

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Speaker 4: Pod yesterday. So I'm glad that we did not choose

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen to run the Boston Marathon.

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Speaker 1: But enough about that noise.

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Speaker 4: So Chuck minden Hall had a great piece at MMA

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Speaker 4: fighting dot Com talking about Dustin Pourier, Justin Gatchee, and

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Speaker 4: hopefully our listeners all saw that main event on Fox

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Speaker 4: this weekend. If not, you missed a classic and certainly

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Speaker 4: the front runner at least early on here in twenty

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Speaker 1: Fight of the Year.

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Speaker 4: But Chuck minden Hall sort of the thesis of his

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Speaker 4: call really is like when you take the pledge to

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Speaker 4: to fight, to fight this lunatic, right, you know what

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Speaker 4: you're getting into. And Dustin Pourier knew what he was

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Speaker 4: And this really is the type of performance for Poorier

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Speaker 4: that for me, legends are made of. He has not

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Speaker 5: First of all, Dustin Pourier is a guy who has

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Speaker 5: Going to have to suffer minute after minute and again,

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Speaker 4: And Justin Gaateseie already was that guy. And I know

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Speaker 4: MMA junkies John Morgan suggested you were going to need

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Speaker 4: a category just for the non Justin Gaetchee fight of

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Speaker 4: But I'm glad you talked about Dustin Pourier the fighter

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Speaker 4: But let's talk about the fighter here and the evolution.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a.

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Speaker 4: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt who is an outstanding striker.

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Speaker 4: I mean he landed something like one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: incredible to sit octagon side and watch Justin Gaetchee absorb

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Speaker 4: and really, I think for an MMA fan, it didn't

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Speaker 5: To me, this indicated that Dustin Poie was trained very

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Speaker 5: or everyone out from that position. He's he's brutal there,

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Speaker 5: But when he's just on the outside of that, when

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Speaker 5: Now Gechee was cutting off the cage and stopping that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, without a doubt. And Geechee is a brutal

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Speaker 5: Gai Chee is going to make you fight. The pressure

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Speaker 4: So we had our fighter meeting Thursday, and Daniel Cormier

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Speaker 4: Geegee has heard for quite some time. This is his

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Speaker 4: so fearful of wrestling fatigue and what offensive wrestling is

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Speaker 4: going to do to his guess tak. These are his words,

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Speaker 4: not mine, that it has created this type of fighter.

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Speaker 4: And he wrestled in the state championship four times in

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Speaker 5: It's tough. It's really it's a tough sell man. So

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Speaker 5: okay beat And what's Connor gonna do? Connor's Connor wants

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ridiculous, man, absurd right, So that is And

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Speaker 1: But justin Gaichee, ladies and gentlemen, unbelievable. It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: He's able to walk with those bowling ball sized balls

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Speaker 1: Gai Chee is a guy who will always force you

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it, man.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know what he's worth, right, I just

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Speaker 1: Because he can't.

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Speaker 4: And whether I mean it's a guy who will finish,

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Speaker 4: we're going to table that thought for a second and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a little under the weather Citty day here in

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Speaker 6: Long Island, and uh, that's it.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to just I want to regroup and I

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Speaker 7: for the weekend.

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Speaker 4: And I know you have three guys competing at UFC

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Speaker 4: Atlantic City before we get there. Did you watch the

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Speaker 4: main event on Fox Saturday night between Dustin Poorier and

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Speaker 4: Justin Geechee.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely. I definitely saw that. I'm not going

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Speaker 6: to forget it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what are you thinking as that is playing out?

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Speaker 4: Are you just thinking that that Gechee's a maniac and

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Speaker 4: Porier obviously has alterremendously? What do you think as a coach,

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Speaker 4: as a fan when when a fight like that is

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Speaker 4: going down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not thinking Geechee's a maniac. I'm knowing Geechee's

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Speaker 6: a maniac.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I tell you I had I thought Gachi.

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Speaker 7: I had Geichie win in the fight. I thought he

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Speaker 7: was gonna win, but uh, I thought he was going

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Speaker 7: to make some adjustments from.

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Speaker 6: The Eddie Alvarez fight, and he didn't make any adjustments.

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Speaker 6: And I just I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Man, that's a tough dude who throws with bad intentions.

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Speaker 7: But that guy's on a one way street to ctia Ville,

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Speaker 7: cte Ville. Man, he's got to really be carefully. He's

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Speaker 7: taking way too many shots and I don't even think

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Speaker 7: he has to. But after listening to him talk, you know,

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Speaker 7: it looks like that's what he wants to do. He

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Speaker 7: wants to entertain people. He's got five fights to go,

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Speaker 7: and man, I hope he's getting paid well because I

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Speaker 7: think he's He's taking too much punishment at this point,

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Speaker 7: you know, just in his last three fights alone, and

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Speaker 7: that style is exciting as hell. Who doesn't want to

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Speaker 7: see it? But not at the expense of this guy

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Speaker 7: getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one for me too.

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Speaker 5: Ray Obviously he's delivering excitement and I don't know what

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Speaker 5: he's getting paid. What would you tell a fellow, what

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Speaker 5: would you not a fellifight but one of your one

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Speaker 5: of your guys, what would you tell one of your fighters.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, here's the deal because I think, look, we know

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Speaker 6: Trevor Whitman's a technical strength coach. That's the crazy part

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Speaker 6: to me.

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Speaker 7: He saw what Rose did with Joanna, So that's not

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Speaker 7: the problem. It's that and I had a guy like

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Speaker 7: that who was I'm not saying was as good of

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Speaker 7: a wrestler, but pretty close. Man did not want to wrestle, yeah,

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Speaker 7: for some reason, and he had a cardio for days,

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Speaker 7: but his chin started going to Man, it's just it's

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Speaker 7: a crazy thing. I think it's what he wants to do.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it has anything to do with the coaching.

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Speaker 7: I think they would love to get him a little

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Speaker 7: more technical, but he chooses to, you know, go in

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Speaker 7: there and do his thing. If he if he would

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Speaker 7: have employed Imagine if that guy was wrestling in that fight.

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Speaker 7: He wins that fight easily, probably if he mixes into wrestling.

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Speaker 7: So that that part I don't get. I mean, if

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Speaker 7: he's got to win a show money and win money,

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Speaker 7: then I really don't get it. If he's getting a

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Speaker 7: flat fee, maybe kind of get it. You know, he

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Speaker 7: wants to be exciting, He's kind of stating that. But

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, he's tough as nails, but it's not

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Speaker 7: gonna last forever. And that's that's the problem.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 7: I just think he's for the sake of being entertaining.

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Speaker 7: He's really sacrificing his body at this point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, your health, your health is uh is pretty is

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Speaker 5: worth something for sure?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Ray, one of your fighters does have a fight coming up.

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Speaker 5: Al Jo. First of all, I hope you haven't gotten

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Speaker 5: him six. Stay away from him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I definitely you know what.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 6: With him and Morob last night. I felt great. So

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping that whatever I think I have, I don't have.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they gave it to you. Who knows.

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Speaker 7: Now a lot of people in the gym with six,

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Speaker 7: all right, I gotta I got a hit list of

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Speaker 7: people I'm going after if I get sick.

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Speaker 5: How's he feeling, man, how's he feeling for his fight?

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Speaker 7: Everybody feels great, everybody's healthy, everybody feels great. I think

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Speaker 7: they all have tough fights, and uh, it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: a great night Saturday. I think three guys are coming

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Speaker 7: to fight, So it's it's it's it's good. Everybody had

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Speaker 7: a good camp again, they're healthy. As long as the

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Speaker 7: weight cut goes good, everybody will be in that octagon

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Speaker 7: at one hundred.

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Speaker 4: So you got Aljamin Sterling taking on Brett Johns. Brett

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Speaker 4: John's coming off that calf slice or win over Joe Soto.

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Speaker 4: He's fifteen and oh no betting lines on these fights

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Speaker 4: because it's the beginning of the week. You got your guy,

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Speaker 4: Lukas Sasaki taking on Mago med Bibbu Latov. How do

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Speaker 4: you communicate with Sasaki? Is there somebody there twenty four

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Speaker 4: to seven when you're working with him or do you

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Speaker 4: just sort of keep it to fight talk and you

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Speaker 4: have codes?

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Speaker 7: Uh No, it's fight talking, it's demonstration, and he's not

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Speaker 7: you know, it's a little weird, but every so often

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Speaker 7: the interpreter doesn't come in, and then when I talk

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Speaker 7: to the interpreter, he is on the game plan, so

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Speaker 7: he does understand what's going on. So I'm not worried

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Speaker 7: about that. And the interpret will be in the corner also.

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Speaker 7: So he's a great kid man. I really like this guy.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he has a good record in the UFC,

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Speaker 7: but he's very, very talented.

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Speaker 6: I hope he sticks to what we're doing and I

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Speaker 6: think he'll have a great.

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Speaker 4: Showing somebody growing up in Japan. Longo's voice must sound

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Speaker 4: like butter to Ulukas Sasaki.

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Speaker 1: He's got a great oh great.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever talked to him? Have you ever?

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Speaker 7: Even he's a really sweet kid man. He's he's always

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Speaker 7: laughing and barrowing. I don't know's. He's great energy.

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Speaker 4: In the gym, and he's got a great frame for

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Speaker 4: that division. As we've said, he's got a lot of

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Speaker 4: length to him. He's fighting Mago med bibou Latov, who

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Speaker 4: you know Ray of course, because you've been getting ready

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Speaker 4: for this fight. He was fourteen and oh flow before

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Speaker 4: he got knocked out by John Moraga back in October.

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Speaker 4: He was a minus six hundred favorite that night, so

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Speaker 4: Vegas says, you guys could have your hands full. I

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Speaker 4: gotta think you'll be the underdog in that one. And

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Speaker 4: then real quick Morob Devlishvilly. So he dropped his UFC debut.

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Speaker 4: It was a split decision against Frankie Sins in December.

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Speaker 4: Close fight could have gone his way and he was

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Speaker 4: to face Augusto tankein Yo Mendez here this weekend.

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Speaker 1: He got flagged by Yusada.

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Speaker 4: I think so you take on the UFC newcomer, Ricky Simon,

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Speaker 4: who has a win over cheeks. What can you tell

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Speaker 4: us about what Morob's gonna face this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Anything?

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Speaker 7: Morob's got a really you know, this kid looks well

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Speaker 7: rounded everywhere. He's a young kid. It looks like he's

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Speaker 7: got great stand up. He's a wrestler. You know, he'll

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Speaker 7: put the takedowns in. I think that's going to be

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Speaker 7: a bond burner, man, I really do, because Morob's healthy

617
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Speaker 7: and when he's healthy, man, he's got one speed. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he was maybe at sixty percent with Frankie Science, who's

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Speaker 7: tough as hell, and he didn't stop in that fight.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how he did it because I know

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Speaker 7: you know what he went through before to fight. But

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Speaker 7: he's healthy now, so I expect fifteen minutes of hell

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Speaker 7: from that kid.

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Speaker 4: All right, man, Well, if you want to get any

625
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Speaker 4: bets in on your guys, I got a guy, so

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Speaker 4: we'd be happy to take your action depending on where

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Speaker 4: those numbers fall.

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Speaker 1: So let me know. I hope you feel better.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you carving out a few minutes none the lesson,

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Speaker 4: and let's make it three and O this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. I know Susaki's up against it, but let's go.

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Speaker 6: That would be great.

633
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Speaker 7: And that guy you have, he doesn't have a headset

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Speaker 7: on that baseball capitalin, does he.

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Speaker 6: That's not the guy that I'm looking at right now?

636
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Speaker 6: Is he the guy?

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Speaker 1: No comment?

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Speaker 6: No comment anyway, right, guys, thanks a lot man. I

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Speaker 6: will we'll talk after this weekend. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: Heal up, dude, take it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks a lot man. Therer.

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00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: He is a Ray Longo minute dating to episode one

643
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Speaker 4: on the Anak and Florian podcast. So I was sending

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Speaker 4: things up flow on Alex Cowboy, ol of Era and

645
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Speaker 4: Carlos Condit. I have it on good authority that Condit

646
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Speaker 4: was out. He actually had a dream before Cowboy readjusted

647
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Speaker 4: the choke Kenny and resubmitted it and then ultimately Condit tapped.

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Speaker 4: So not the easiest thing for a broadcaster. Referees aren't

649
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Speaker 4: always in the right position or saying the right things

650
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Speaker 4: verbally to the fighter or trying to work the limb.

651
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Speaker 4: But my eighty fifth degree Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt,

652
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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian was not sitting to my immediate right. So

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Speaker 4: your thoughts on what condit was going through and what

654
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Speaker 4: Cowboy OLVERA was feeling underneath him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think that. First of all,

656
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Speaker 5: it was funny hearing DC.

657
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Speaker 1: And Don discs whether he was out or not.

658
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Speaker 5: To me, when a guy isn't moving and he's limped

659
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Speaker 5: over to me, he's out.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: There was one thing that was that happened before that.

662
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Speaker 5: It was the upkick. So I in my opinion, what

663
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Speaker 5: got the finish was the upkick, because Carlos wouldn't never

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I don't think a high level fighter

665
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Speaker 5: like that would give up a guillotine like that unless

666
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: he was hurt, and I think the upkick hurt him.

667
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Speaker 5: He was rocked. He wasn't all the way there. Alex

668
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Speaker 5: Olivera is a very strong guy, and he had that

669
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Speaker 5: guillotine pretty tidy, was squeezing it.

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Speaker 1: Carlos caught it looked like he was out to me.

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Speaker 5: There was a point where Alex started going kind of

672
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Speaker 5: to the wrong side and he kind of had to

673
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Speaker 5: readjust and then you see Carlos kind of started moving again.

674
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Speaker 5: There looked like at a period he was maybe alt

675
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Speaker 5: for like two seconds. He started adjusting it again, and

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Speaker 5: then it looked like Carl came back to life and

677
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: he started raising his head up a little bit and

678
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: then you could see he just had no life in

679
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Speaker 5: him left and he just decided to tap.

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Speaker 1: He was just on a weird angle and.

681
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Speaker 5: It seemed like he could have escaped, but it makes

682
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Speaker 5: sense considering he was already out.

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Speaker 1: He was like, Okay, I can't deal with this anymore.

684
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Speaker 4: And if you're Alex Cowboy OLVERA, you've got to keep fighting.

685
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Speaker 4: I know some are going to criticize him, but what

686
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Speaker 4: John Jones did against Leoto Machidah, you can also do that, right,

687
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Speaker 4: I would assume if you feel the body goes later.

688
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: Granted that was different because Macheedah was in a standing position, right,

689
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Speaker 4: and of course you run the risk of letting the

690
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: guy out of the choke, right, But if you feel

691
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Speaker 4: condit go soft, and I guess you can hold back

692
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Speaker 4: and then the lifeless body at that point in time

693
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Speaker 4: would result in the referee coming in.

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Speaker 1: But either way, Cowboy wins here.

695
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Speaker 4: Kenny is a two to one favorite, and he accepted

696
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Speaker 4: this fight on short notice. He thought he was going

697
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: to fight May twelfth in Rio de Janeiro at UFC

698
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Speaker 4: two twenty four but he did not have a fight scheduled.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe so. He was in good enough shape.

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Speaker 4: He was two hundred and three pounds, so he had

701
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: only been training for ten days or so, but made

702
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Speaker 4: it so that the cut wasn't too bad. He's long,

703
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: he's strong. Vegas knows he was supposed to win this fight.

704
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: Condit obviously has struggled and has only fought a couple

705
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Speaker 4: times in the last year and a half two years

706
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Speaker 4: or so. But for Carlos Condit, Kenny, where does he

707
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: go from here? You know, most of his opponents in

708
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: the UFC and the WEC have been able to take

709
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: him down at points in the fight. You know, some suggested,

710
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: and I did on the broadcast, that the scowl was back.

711
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Speaker 1: I think the motivation was back. Condit is the father

712
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Speaker 1: of two.

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Speaker 4: His kids have demanded a lot of time from him,

714
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Speaker 4: and that's where he wants to be spending his time.

715
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Speaker 4: But what would you tell a thirty three year old

716
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Speaker 4: Carlos Condit who still loves to do this but is

717
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: now staring at four straight losses and not a lot

718
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Speaker 4: of answers for certain styles in there, at least given

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Speaker 4: the recent film.

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Speaker 5: We have right well, I actually thought Carlos Kndent looked

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00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: way better than he did in his last fight. It

722
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Speaker 5: looked like, as you said, he had that kind of

723
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Speaker 5: fire back. I didn't see that fire in the last fight.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Tip, he makes mistakes. He's a slow starter,

725
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: you know, it takes him a little bit to get

726
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Speaker 5: warmed up. And he was just getting warmed up until

727
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Speaker 5: he ate that upkick and then kind of that shift

728
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Speaker 5: of the momentum back into Oliver's side which allowed him

729
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Speaker 5: to get the guillotine. Listen, I think you gotta let

730
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Speaker 5: him fight one more. I think you gotta let him

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Speaker 5: fight one more just to see is that the case?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: The problem is do you want to be that guy

734
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Speaker 5: that is the stepping stone for the young fighter coming up?

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Speaker 5: You know that that's the hardest thing for me in

736
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Speaker 5: this sport is when you get a guy who went

737
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Speaker 5: from being elite, one of the top three guys in

738
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Speaker 5: the division, to now being a gatekeeper, right, you know,

739
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Speaker 5: And that that's the sad thing for me to see

740
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Speaker 5: a guy like Carlos Content, who I thought was a

741
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Speaker 5: you know, a great fighter, a guy that I thought was,

742
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Speaker 5: you know, talk about mister excitement.

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Speaker 1: He always delivered. I always came to fight.

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Speaker 5: He was finisher, you know, far for the belt, former

745
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 5: world champion over in the WEC. Ive been doing this

746
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: a very long time. Was a part of this sport

747
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: when no one was really watching. So yeah, this is

748
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Speaker 5: a tough one for me. But I think again, given

749
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: his situation, he does have two kids, He has a family,

750
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: has to get you know, he has to take care of.

751
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Speaker 5: Give him one more fight to see how he does here.

752
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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, wish him the best. He's

753
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: a good dude.

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Speaker 4: He's a great dude, and you're right in a lot

755
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: of respects. He was gay Chee before Justin Gaechee in

756
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: the UFC, just in terms of his mass appeal and

757
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: how much his fellow fighters appreciated his style and what

758
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: he brought to the octagon. It's just amazing how this narrative, though,

759
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: could be for Carlos Kondent. A lot of people talk

760
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Speaker 4: about the split decision lost to Robbie Lawler at UFC

761
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Speaker 4: one ninety five that would have made him the undisputed

762
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Speaker 4: UFC welterweight champion when he head kicked Rock George Saint Pierre.

763
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Speaker 4: I think UFC one f four yes, right after becoming

764
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Speaker 4: the interim champ with the win over Nick Das. I mean,

765
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Speaker 4: you're talking about a guy who at one point was

766
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Speaker 4: on a fast track to the UFC Hall of Fame.

767
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Speaker 4: And I don't want to sit here and say that

768
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Speaker 4: he has fought his way out of the Hall of Fame.

769
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Speaker 4: But I'm not sure like Diego Sanchez is getting in, right,

770
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Speaker 4: does that mean Carlos Condit is getting in. Carlos kandd

771
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Speaker 4: had a belt around his waist, right, So yeah, I

772
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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know if Carlos Kanda It's a

773
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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. I think he probably is, but I

774
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 4: think to say that his status as gatekeeper right now

775
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: is not insulting him either. And you know he was

776
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Speaker 4: supposed to fight Matt Brown. This is a different stylistic challenge.

777
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Speaker 4: I think if he can wait for Matt Brown to

778
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: heal from the torn acl, that fight would still have

779
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: a lot of legs. And I would say Kenny, ultimately,

780
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Speaker 4: even without asking Carlos Condit, I know he's gonna want

781
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Speaker 4: at least one more.

782
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you gotta beat Alex Oliver And this

783
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: is no there's no offense to Alex Olivera. But those

784
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: are the guys you gotta beat, Like you know, he's

785
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Speaker 5: He's a guy that for Carlos Condit. If you look

786
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 5: at what they've done in this sport, Carlos Kanit should

787
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Speaker 5: get a win over Cowboy oliver every single timeout.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think those odds that were formulated for

790
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: this fight, right, I don't think we're so accurate.

791
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well right, And I don't know if you saw

792
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Speaker 4: my tweet, but I was surprised that it was that wide.

793
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Speaker 4: Like if you had asked me before the fight, I

794
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: would have thought it would have been maybe a pickham.

795
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't think Carlos Kana would be plus one seventy.

796
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Speaker 4: And then the sharp money pushed him even north of that,

797
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: closing it like plus one eighty. And a lot of

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Speaker 4: that was rooted in the fact that we knew Alex

799
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Speaker 4: Cowboy Olivera had taken the fight on short notice, but

800
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Speaker 4: Olivera mixed it up and is able to get the

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Speaker 4: first guyoteene shoke of his career.

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Speaker 4: So so before we get to Shoeface Antonio Carlos Junior

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Speaker 4: and the outstanding work you did with him this weekend,

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Speaker 4: I want to start with Dustin Poorier. I got to

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Speaker 4: think you guys feel pretty lucky to have this guy

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Speaker 4: representing a tt hard worker. Uh and really I think

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Speaker 4: starting to the benefits that all of that hard work

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean Dustin is a tremendous athlete, a

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Speaker 8: tremendous fighter. I mean he was. He was the type

863
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Speaker 8: of guy that was born to fight. And his performance

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Speaker 8: this weekend, for me, it's one of his better performances.

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Speaker 8: It was legendary and just you know, he is what

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Speaker 8: younger fighters need to look up to when it comes

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Speaker 8: to building a career. I mean, here's a guy who's

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Speaker 8: had his ups and downs, but never let that hold

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Speaker 8: him back, never let him never let it set it back.

870
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 8: And I feel like, you know, it's his time right now,

871
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 8: Like he's he's done so much in a sport, but

872
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 8: he's it's still his time right now.

873
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: And I know, among your bigger takeaways from that performance

874
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: was just the striking accuracy and just the pistons being

875
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: thrown in Gaechee's face. Not that you were surprised, but

876
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: Dustin landed at a high clip over sixty five percent

877
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: and certainly had his way and had the hands go

878
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: on Saturday.

879
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I've always felt like Dustin was an

880
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 8: extremely accurate puncher. But what surprised me more so than

881
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 8: that was his defense really and not being hit as

882
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 8: much as as I thought he might. That I thought

883
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 8: he might be capable of being hit, And that's not

884
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 8: to disrespect Dustin, It's just he said he was going

885
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 8: to work on his defense, and it clearly showed that

886
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 8: he really did work on his defense. Now, obviously the

887
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 8: lag kicks were a problem, but his ability to not

888
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 8: take a lot of like crazy punishment upstairs is what

889
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 8: really stood out to me With the way this fight

890
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 8: played out.

891
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a huge difference, man, Because sometimes Dustin

892
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 5: does get caught in playing the other fighters game. I

893
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: don't think he did that in this one. Although it

894
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 5: was a crazy fight, he showed that he was the

895
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: more technical guy and he was very disciplined in his approach.

896
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: Was that a big part of you guys, you know,

897
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: coaching him saying listen, you gotta be super disciplined. Do

898
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: not play gay Chee's crazy brawling game.

899
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean that's always been Dustin's problem. Everybody knows that,

900
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 8: is that when he gets a little to a emotional

901
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 8: he always ends up fighting the other guy's fight. And

902
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 8: the one thing that we focused on with Dustin was,

903
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 8: you know, keeping him calm and keeping them, keeping them focused,

904
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 8: and discipline, like you said, Kenny, and I think that

905
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 8: discipline was the deciding factor in this fight because he

906
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 8: never really got out of pocket, he never got out

907
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 8: of form. He stayed true to what he knew he

908
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 8: could do, and that was box and his boxing looked tremendous.

909
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 8: I mean, he was sitting them with combinations, he was

910
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 8: sticking and moving. He never really got touched up too bad. Upstairs,

911
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 8: he took a couple of shots, but not too bad

912
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 8: considering that it was a crazy fight. With the exception

913
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 8: of the leg kicks. I thought he looked fantastic.

914
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seemed like the damage was probably just from

915
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: those those ipokes more than anything else.

916
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Upstairs.

917
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 5: But you know, Dean, I wanted to talk to about

918
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: a man in noon as in her fight coming up

919
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: against Raquel Pennington. Is there any bad blood at all?

920
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 5: Obviously teacher Torres used to train with you guys. Is

921
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 5: there any animosity going on between those two or no?

922
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: No, It's weird.

923
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 8: It's crazy because like when they came, like Tsha Torres

924
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 8: and Roquel was down here maybe a month ago and

925
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 8: they were all hanging out.

926
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: Wow, it's weird that that you have.

927
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 8: A relationship like this where these two fighters like they

928
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 8: really legitimately like each other. I don't think that you're

929
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 8: going to see any trash talk or anything like that.

930
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 8: These are two fighters that like each other. But I

931
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 8: know that Amanda she she doesn't want to give her

932
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 8: belt away that easily. Yea, even though I think she

933
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 8: holds Raquel true to her heart, She's still going to

934
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 8: try to take her head.

935
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Off, that's for sure. Man.

936
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: That's what makes her so exciting. How is she training

937
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: for this fight?

938
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 8: She you know, she does her own thing, really, I mean,

939
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 8: she's you know, Amanda's always been the type of fighter

940
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 8: who kind of wakes up in the morning and goes,

941
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 8: this is what I want to do today. Call this person,

942
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 8: get them in the gym right now, and we're going

943
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 8: to work, and I think she fights better when she

944
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 8: does that. I don't think she likes to be led

945
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 8: too much. I think that's been her problems in the past,

946
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 8: where she allowed people to dictate her training a little

947
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 8: too much, and when when they dictated her training, I

948
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 8: don't think she was you know, she stayed. I don't

949
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 8: think she felt positivity in camp because she felt like

950
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 8: people were just trying to dominate her when she's able

951
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 8: to kind of have some saying what she does in

952
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 8: her training. She's a really hard worker. She'll put in

953
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 8: extra round she'll do more than you ask of her.

954
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 8: When you allow her to kind of dictate what she

955
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 8: wants to do, believe it or not. When she says, hey, listen,

956
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 8: let's come in and do five rounds, she'll give you ten.

957
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 8: And that's kind of what she's doing in this camp.

958
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 8: And she's just she's in the gym every day, working

959
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 8: really hard and pushing herself. But for a fighter like that,

960
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 8: she needs to be able to push herself and not

961
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 8: allow others to push her.

962
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's well put.

963
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: And it is an interesting dynamic to that fight because

964
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: Rocky Pennington does not strike me as somebody who would

965
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: want to be buddy buddy with their opponent, but given

966
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: that they have sort of a pre existing relationship, there's

967
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: only so much you can do. Dean Thomas with us

968
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: here on the Anakin Floring Podcast. So final thought on

969
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: Dustin Pourrier in terms of this one hundred and fifty

970
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: five pound of vision, because even though some my'd say

971
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: maybe one more the Eddie Alvarez rematch, and I can

972
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 4: understand why people would have that line of thinking. I say,

973
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: strike now, go for the kabibn Nermongo Medoff fight. You

974
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 4: believe that is the toughest fight for Dustin in the division,

975
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: That matchup with Kabibnrmongo Medov.

976
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, with kabef style, he's just the toughest

977
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 8: matchup for anybody in the division because you know, nobody

978
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 8: has found a way to keep him off of them,

979
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 8: and once he gets on you, it's just it's just

980
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 8: really difficult to get him off. He's gonna be the

981
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 8: toughest fight for Dustin right now. But like you said,

982
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 8: I mean, if you know, if Dustin can take that fight,

983
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 8: it's a gamble. Obviously, it's a gamble. If he wins,

984
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 8: he's a champ. If he loses, I don't think he

985
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 8: loses anything in terms of his of his status or

986
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 8: or his perception from anybody. So I feel like he

987
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 8: could take that fight and uh and just take that gamble,

988
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 8: just take that. You know, it's his time right now.

989
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 8: He's positive, get that fight if he can, and if

990
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 8: he loses a there's always a rematch with Eddie Alvarez,

991
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 8: and then you got a lot of top competitors to

992
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 8: make a good fight with him, maybe the winner of

993
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 8: Barbosa and Kevin Leidis this next weekend coming up. So yeah,

994
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 8: I think it's a good opportunity to fight. Could be

995
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 8: right now though.

996
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do believe the Alvarez rematch will be there,

997
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: and the way things go, you never know, his next

998
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 4: fight could be against Eddie for the UFC's Interim lightweight Championship, right,

999
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you just don't know. So congratulations to Dustin

1000
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: Now you were in Glendale to corner Antonio Carlos Junior.

1001
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: What a night for Shoeface Kata de Sapachi submits Tim

1002
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: boch fifth consecutive win. Your thoughts on this win, but

1003
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: also big picture, how far this guy can go because

1004
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us are starting to get

1005
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: excited that he can really make a run here at

1006
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 4: eighty five.

1007
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he could make a run. I mean,

1008
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 8: you know, Tim Boch was a good opponent for him,

1009
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 8: just based on style style matchups. A lot of people see,

1010
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 8: here's the thing with Antonio style is that he's really, really,

1011
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 8: really good at jiu jitsu, and most guys aren't that

1012
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 8: good at jiu jitsu. So, like you know, when you're

1013
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 8: in and you're training like defenses to the rear, naked escape,

1014
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 8: naked choke escape, you will never get a guy like

1015
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 8: Shoeface on your back to mimic him. So you can

1016
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 8: get out of a regular person's choker, you can get

1017
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 8: out of a regular person's mouth. But when you when

1018
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 8: you're as detailed and as skilled as Antonio Carlos Junior,

1019
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 8: it's very difficult to mimic that. So it's hard to

1020
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 8: find people to train but to be prepared for a.

1021
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 9: Guy like him.

1022
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 8: And because of that reason, I feel like he can

1023
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 8: go extremely far in his game, and his striking is

1024
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 8: coming along. He's just naturally heavy handed and he kicks

1025
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 8: really hard, and people have underestimated that. I think now

1026
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 8: they're starting to open our eyes up to it. When

1027
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 8: he thought Jack Marshman, Jack Marshall was like, wow, I

1028
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 8: was surprised how good striking was. Tim Busch obviously felt

1029
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 8: the same same as well, he's not just a jiu

1030
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 8: jitsu guy because he hits really hard.

1031
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 4: Though, so I know you guys didn't call anybody out,

1032
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: and certainly that is not shoefaces calling to get on

1033
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: a mic and start parking for names. I do think,

1034
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: as I told you though at the airport, I think

1035
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: he's starting to get that. Was it mean streak that

1036
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: I think you need to take your shots at the

1037
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: elite guys. You mentioned Brad Tavares, and the other middleweights

1038
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: to win fights on this night were Israel out of

1039
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: Sonya and Brad Tavares. I don't think he's getting out

1040
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: of Sonya necessarily, but Tavores is the rank guy, Dean,

1041
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: and the more I researched it this morning, I think

1042
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: you're onto something.

1043
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I think that fight has legs.

1044
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's the fight that makes sense. I

1045
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 8: mean a fight with Israel out of Sonya, I mean,

1046
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 8: obviously they're trying to build him up and it would

1047
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 8: be a waste to like put so much into him

1048
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 8: and then have him lose to a guy like Shoe Face.

1049
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 8: I think a gout a fight with Brad Davares just

1050
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 8: makes more sense for both of their careers because the

1051
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 8: winner is just right at the cusp of you know,

1052
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 8: you know, really doing big things. So I think that

1053
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 8: fight makes sense. I mean, it's a good fight for

1054
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 8: Shoe Face. Brad Davarus is a tough guy. He just

1055
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 8: knocked out another one of our teammates in Christoph Jocko.

1056
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 8: But you know this, that's the game, this is the

1057
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 8: sport that we play. We live by the sword, we

1058
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 8: die by the sword, and you gotta take chances and

1059
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 8: you got to take opportunities when they.

1060
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: Well, maybe att you'll get another crack there at Brad Tavores.

1061
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: So what's what's next on your schedule?

1062
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 8: Man?

1063
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: Are you traveling to Atlantic City this week or you

1064
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: got a little downtime?

1065
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

1066
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 8: I'm not headed to Atlantic City this weekend. I am

1067
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 8: going to Liverpool on the twenty seventh with Jillian Robertson,

1068
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 8: who fights Molly mccainn. Then the weekend after I'll be

1069
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 8: in Utica with Chicagolar, she fights Jody escoball, I got

1070
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 8: my work cut out for me with some pretty tough matchups.

1071
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: All right, man, we'll keep it going.

1072
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: Always good to see you, and uh, we'll see you

1073
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: in Utica, New York. I guess on June first, Buddy,

1074
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: I appreciate you hopping on.

1075
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 8: Guys, Thank you.

1076
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Thanks Dean.

1077
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: The Great Dean Thomas with us on the Anakin Florian podcast.

1078
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: We only book former Florian victims. I'm telling you the

1079
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: book guys that he beat. You will not hear from

1080
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: bj Penn and Jose Aldo and Shawn Shirk on the

1081
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 4: Florn podcast.

1082
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: It's just what we do.

1083
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: So Ken Fly, I know you didn't see Shoefaces win

1084
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 4: over Timbo, but I know how familiar you are with him,

1085
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: and I know also how familiar you are with the

1086
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: result that we digested back in March of twenty sixteen,

1087
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 4: when one Daniel Kelly beat shoe Face to the surprise

1088
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: of a lot of people. And I was on the

1089
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: bus with Shoeface going to the airport after that fight,

1090
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 4: and it was hard in that moment, even though I

1091
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: think very highly of Antonio Carlos Junior, to think that

1092
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: he was going to vault into middleweight contention because it

1093
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: just didn't seem after that. You know, there were just

1094
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: some things that night that needed to be addressed. I

1095
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: know there were circumstances. It was Australia, was an early fight.

1096
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: He gassed all of that since though, he's won five

1097
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: in a row. And when you bring these type of

1098
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu credentials with improving hands that are heavy that

1099
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: saw you realize an Ultimate Fighter title at heavyweight. I

1100
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: think Antonio Carlos Junior is going to be a problem

1101
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: for a lot of these guys at eighty five. And

1102
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: I think he matches up favorably with a lot of

1103
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: guys right now in the top ten.

1104
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 5: He's big for the division, right and he does come

1105
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: with some good credentials from Brazilian jiu jitsu. I think

1106
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 5: he is going to have a huge advantage in that

1107
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: division with his jiu jitsu, you know, besides a guy

1108
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: like a Jacka Ray Sooza for example. But you know,

1109
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: I think that he is improving. And back when he

1110
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: lost to Daniel Kelly, I forget how long he was

1111
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: training in mixed martial arts for, but it was not

1112
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: very long. He hasn't been doing this for a very

1113
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 5: long time. He was very similar to me when I

1114
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 5: went on The Ultimate Fighter. I was basically a Brazilian

1115
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: jujitsu guy who was like, I'll try mix martial arts.

1116
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens. And he is kind of in

1117
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: that same situation. Now he's learning the other aspects of

1118
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: the sport. He's learning how to put it all together.

1119
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he's got a lot of potential

1120
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 5: in that division.

1121
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 4: And he'd just being a guy who had twenty three

1122
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: UFC fights and tim boch and I thought you face

1123
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: looked very good on the feet. So a big win

1124
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: for Antonio Carlos Junior. Back though, to the guest line

1125
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: now and joining us as a man who is at

1126
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: the beginning of what is his sixth UFC fight week.

1127
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: UFC Heavyweight the Vanilla Gorilla. Chase Sherman is with us,

1128
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 4: and he had his pupils dilated within the last hour,

1129
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: so he's a good man for getting on.

1130
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: With us today. Good to see you, man. What's going on?

1131
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: What's up?

1132
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: Man?

1133
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I can still see y'all's beautiful faces.

1134
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: See Chase Sherman is not stone during fight Weeklands and Gentleman,

1135
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 4: he just went to the ophthalmologist.

1136
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: All right, so are you in New Jersey yet? Are

1137
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: you still home or what?

1138
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 6: I'm still at home.

1139
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 8: I fly out tomorrow.

1140
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: All right.

1141
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: So this Saturday night, as many of our listeners know,

1142
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 4: you get justin Willis Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey.

1143
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 4: This fight part of the main card on FS one. First,

1144
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: let's just put that Shamil Abdurahimov fight to bed. Obviously,

1145
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: that's the last time we saw you. It was November Shanghai, China,

1146
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 4: and I watched it back this morning.

1147
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 6: Man.

1148
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you were getting some stuff done on the feet. Obviously,

1149
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 4: everything you throw is heavy. But what did you take

1150
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: out of not just that fight, but that training camp

1151
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: that you can use now moving forward?

1152
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 10: You know, I went back and watched the fight as well, man,

1153
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 10: and I realized I was I was countering with the

1154
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 10: wrong hand, and uh, you know a lot of times

1155
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 10: who's thrown that overhand right? And I was like, oh, look,

1156
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 10: the left side of his face is open. So I

1157
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 10: would go throw a jab and just get caught with

1158
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 10: like an account with the right hand and and instead

1159
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 10: of you know, pairing, and then counter went the opposite hand.

1160
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 10: So I was like, you know, I gotta get some

1161
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 10: fundamentals about me. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta really

1162
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 10: work on this defense because the offense is there obviously.

1163
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 10: But so I got back home and then as soon

1164
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 10: as I got back home, I started working with the

1165
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 10: just a traditional boxing coach here and Biloxi, and that's

1166
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 10: really been helping me understand the fundamentals of this traking game,

1167
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 10: because once you get to this level, you really can't

1168
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 10: just get away with just athleticism, you know what I mean,

1169
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 10: because a lot of these fighters are really intelligent and

1170
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 10: they'll pick you apart. So that was a goal of mine,

1171
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 10: and uh, you know a lot of stuff from the

1172
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 10: last camp. Man, I really didn't get to display anything

1173
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 10: in that fight. So we're just kind of carrying that over.

1174
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1175
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 10: Ever since I've been with with Coach Wink and those

1176
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 10: guys that they've really helped me out. And and you know,

1177
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 10: it's it's the heavyweight division. You know, sometimes you get

1178
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 10: in there and and you get clipped. You know, these

1179
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 10: are two hundred and sixty five pound grown men with

1180
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 10: four Houns clubs on, and it happens to the best

1181
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 10: of us, and it's just a learning experience.

1182
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: And Shamil is awkward too. He's a guy that's kind

1183
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 5: of hard to prepare for. But for Justin willis your

1184
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: next fight? How have you been preparing for for Justin.

1185
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 10: Man, I've been you know, obviously he's a South Paul,

1186
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 10: so just been working with some good South Pauls here

1187
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 10: in camp and then and you know, he's got a

1188
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 10: wrestling background and been working my wrestling, my grappling really

1189
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 10: diligently even before I got the call. You know, I've

1190
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 10: been trying to implement that into my game.

1191
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: A lot more.

1192
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 10: With my grappling coaches being a little bit more disciplined

1193
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 10: at that and uh, you.

1194
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 6: Know, a big, a big thing for me.

1195
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 10: Was as far as you know, going for takedowns and

1196
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 10: things of that nature and engaging in the grappling aspect

1197
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 10: is because one of the reasons I haven't done it

1198
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 10: as much is because I didn't want to expend a

1199
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 10: lot of energy trying to take these big guys down.

1200
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 10: And uh, but I was like, you know what, I

1201
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 10: need to really implement that faster the game into my

1202
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 10: my fighting. So I was like, you know what I

1203
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 10: need to get I need to get stronger, you know,

1204
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 10: That's what I need to do.

1205
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not.

1206
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 8: I'm not.

1207
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 10: I'm didn't wrestle in high school, didn't wrestle in college.

1208
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 10: So what's one thing that I can do? And I

1209
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 10: was like, you know what, let me get back to

1210
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 10: my football strick. Let me get that explosion and that

1211
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 10: power back. Let me get back to, you know, being

1212
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 10: able to manhandle two hundred and sixty five and seventy

1213
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 10: how men, you know what I mean? Like I used

1214
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 10: to be able to do. And so I went to

1215
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 10: a really good strengthen the conditioning coach. They work with

1216
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 10: a lot of NFL players and a lot of combine

1217
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 10: guys in a mobile called d one gyms.

1218
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: Man, and they've just really got me back to my strength.

1219
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: And it's really it's really helped in the.

1220
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 10: Grappling aspect as far as if the technique is lacking

1221
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 10: a little bit, then I can use what I need

1222
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 10: to use as far as my strength and conditioning goes.

1223
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: Chase Sherman with us here on the Anak and Florian

1224
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: podcast fights justin Willis this weekend and Willis two and

1225
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: oh in the UFC. So I got to think there's

1226
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: some appeal in trying to hand a guy his first

1227
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 4: UFC loss. Now you fought four times in twenty seventeen,

1228
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: and this will be your first fight of this year,

1229
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: so I guess that's gonna be hard to duplicate. Was

1230
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: this the timeline that you were looking for to sort

1231
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: of lick your wounds and have a few months to

1232
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: work on some things, or were you trying to get

1233
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 4: back in there sooner?

1234
00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1235
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, all those cards in April came out,

1236
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 10: so I was like, man, hopefully I could get.

1237
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 6: Put on one.

1238
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well there you go.

1239
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 10: It was a little it was still short notice. You know,

1240
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 10: they called me like four weeks out. Okay, you know

1241
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 10: this is this is what we got. You know, take

1242
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 10: it or leave it. And since I've been asking for

1243
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 10: a fight, you know what I mean, I can't just

1244
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 10: turn it down because I don't want him to sit

1245
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 10: me on the couch for a while.

1246
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: So sure, you know, we.

1247
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 10: Took the fight and now we got no Now we

1248
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 10: heading out on Tuesday.

1249
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: Get it on all right, A couple more things before

1250
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 4: we let you go. I know you've been a guy

1251
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: who has used social media to your advantage. You know,

1252
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: I definitely think you have a voice and a presence

1253
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: and a tone that I think appeals to a lot

1254
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 4: of people. So how do you feel about your approach

1255
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: compared to say, what Colby Covington is doing, because you

1256
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: guys have about the same number of Twitter followers, and

1257
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 4: some would suggest, given how much he has put into it,

1258
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: that you know, he should be hitting six figures and

1259
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: he hasn't, necessarily, I mean, what do you what do

1260
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: you make of that whole social media landscape and and

1261
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 4: how you have chosen to connect with your fans.

1262
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 10: I mean, I think I think it's just a little

1263
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 10: bit different in the aspect that you know, he wants

1264
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 10: the attention and kind of a different limelight, Like you

1265
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 10: know what I mean, he wants people to uh as

1266
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 10: long as they're talking about him, that's all that matters,

1267
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. They hate him, they hate him.

1268
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 10: If they love him, they love him, you know what

1269
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 10: I mean. Me, I'm just kind of, you know, I

1270
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 10: try to interact with the fans in a different way

1271
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 10: as far as, like, you know, being a little bit

1272
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 10: more friendly. Now if there if people are trolling me,

1273
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, I kind of.

1274
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 6: Have more of a passive aggressive approach.

1275
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 10: I'm kind of a smart ass where Kobe is kind

1276
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 10: of just an outright dickhead. So I don't know, man,

1277
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 10: You know, I don't worry too much about Kobe, you know,

1278
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 10: I know, I know he'll be He'll be watching the fight,

1279
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 10: so I got to make sure I get that w

1280
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 10: or Has is going to be all over my Twitter

1281
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 10: trolling me, so.

1282
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: You know he will be all right. So last thing,

1283
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: so good football career in college. By the way, for

1284
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: Chase Sherman. You heard him reference moving two hundred and

1285
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: seventy five pound men earlier senior year Delta State University

1286
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: on the offensive line. Graded out eighty eight percent All

1287
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: South Region third team, fourteen starts. How much football do

1288
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: you watch these days? I mean, I it sounds like

1289
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: you're just based upon your social media. You're a big

1290
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: combat sports fan. You're watching all of these UFC fights.

1291
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: Are you watching college football in the NFL?

1292
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1293
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 10: Man, dude, I'm like four or five fantasy leagues?

1294
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Man, Oh wow, all about it.

1295
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll get on my Twitter and I'll talk about,

1296
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 10: you know, football, But you know, most people don't even

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Speaker 10: give a shit, you know, most people. I am a

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Speaker 10: MMA fans, so a lot of it doesn't get a

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Speaker 10: lot of hight behind it. But I'm a big I'm

1300
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 10: a big Saints fan. You know, I'll live about an

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Speaker 10: hour and a half from New Orleans. So you know,

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Speaker 10: we had a great year. Unfortunately, that crazy shit happened

1303
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 10: in uh, Minneapolis, and then you know, I watched, I watched,

1304
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 10: I watched college football too.

1305
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of.

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 10: Got away from it last year because my team, they

1307
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 10: you know, they didn't do too well. Their their starting

1308
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 10: quarterback got hurt, and so I was just kind of

1309
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 10: like whatever in watching NFL now since we're not going

1310
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 10: to make the playoffs.

1311
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: But man, we love we love the football players crossing over.

1312
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: Man, you know that.

1313
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: So we give a ship about your football career and

1314
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: who you appreciate.

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I think it's a man.

1316
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 10: I think it's it's a it's a great sport to

1317
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 10: transition from. You know, being on the offensive line is

1318
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 10: really helped me with my hand placement, and it's helped

1319
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 10: me with my Yeah, it's helped me with leverage.

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: It's helped me with takedown defense, you know what I mean.

1321
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 10: And then just the biggest thing about it is it

1322
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 10: just gives you that tenacity, you know what I mean,

1323
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 10: like a lot of people talk about wrestlers and wrestling

1324
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 10: practice and stuff. I don't discredit them in any way.

1325
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 10: I'm sure they have, you know, a hell of a

1326
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 10: job to do. But man, when you're in South Mississippi

1327
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 10: and it's one hundred and ten degrees outside your two

1328
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 10: days in full fucking year, you know what I mean?

1329
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 10: You're banging heads with with two hundred and ninety pounds

1330
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 10: defensive lineman. Right, it's it's pretty it's pretty rough, especially

1331
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 10: when you walk in through the parking lot with your

1332
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 10: gear on and you see ambulances already parked on the

1333
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 10: side waiting for people to have a heat stroke.

1334
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Speaker 1: So oh, I believe it.

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: Man, No, that makes mixed martial arts training sound palatable?

1336
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: All right, Chase Sherman versus Justin Willis It is this

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: Saturday night on FS one. You can see it as

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: part of the main car beginning at ten pm Eastern. Chase,

1339
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: thank you for the time here, man, especially during fight week.

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Speaker 4: We will not see you in Atlantic City, but we'll

1341
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: certainly be watching Bud.

1342
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot.

1343
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 10: Hey y'all are coming to Atlantic City, why not?

1344
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Well just head the back to backs in Brooklyn and Phoenix.

1345
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: So they try not to have us do three straight man.

1346
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: So we'll be there in spirit, and you can be

1347
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: sure I'll be I'll be watching, man, I'll be drinking

1348
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: and watching.

1349
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: Let me have a drink, bro Man.

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: All right, well, I appreciate you all having me.

1351
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Chasing the Man, good luck.

1352
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: All right there he is a heavyweight Chase Sherman taking

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 4: on Justin Willis this Saturday on Fox Sports One.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's make some picks.

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Speaker 3: It's the Main Event Challenge and it the.

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Speaker 4: Time is most definitely ive finished.

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Speaker 1: Fine, how do everything both?

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: We'll do Wait the Main Event Challenge. John Nnick and

1375
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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna try to keep this quick because

1377
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: we have our guest picker on hold. But I just

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: want to set this up because last week, Kenny, you

1379
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: may have heard, was chasing points a little bit right.

1380
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 4: You decided to pick a lot of underdogs because you

1381
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: were staring at a ten point deficit. So we had

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Speaker 4: a listener reach out and say, why don't you just

1383
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 4: do the picks according to the exact odds, meaning if

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Speaker 4: you pick an underdog that is plus one point thirty,

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01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: you get like one point three points, and.

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Speaker 1: The idea has merit. We've talked about this in the past.

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Speaker 4: We haven't done it, in part because this contest has

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: come down to the wire in the two years we've

1389
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 4: done it, it's been very close, so why fix it

1390
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Speaker 4: if it's not broken. It's also a long year, so

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily benefit you to start chasing points. So

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01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 4: basically every year we've done this, the guy who has

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Speaker 4: picked the most winners overall has won the Main Event Challenge.

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Speaker 4: So I just didn't want to dismiss that idea entirely.

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to mention that. And for Ken Flow,

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Speaker 4: Hey you want to chase underdogs, man, I mean, hey,

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: you're one on one on the Main Event Challenge. How

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: you choose to proceed it has nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: with Team Annik and our.

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Speaker 1: Stable of guest pickers.

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01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: As for the standards, it was forty thirty going into

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01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: UFC Glendale. You went head to head with Michael McLaughlin.

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 4: You did get him, Michelle Waterson, Courtney Casey, he had

1404
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: Cowboy Olivera. He also had Dustin Pourier buy Tko nearly

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: got the round right as well. So close week, Team

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01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: Annick takes at four to three forty four thirty three

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Speaker 4: going into UFC Atlantic City and with us to make

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Speaker 4: picks today from the state of Maryland. I believe Emma

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Speaker 4: darren Berger, Emma, appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 1: How are you hey, I'm good.

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Speaker 9: How are you guys?

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01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: Well, we're pumped to have you and Kenny and I

1413
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: are old at this point, I know. But were you

1414
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 4: were you an MMA fan when Ken Flow was in

1415
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: his prime?

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: I was?

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 6: I was.

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 9: Actually he was one of my the first fighters I

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 9: enjoy watching.

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Speaker 1: Wow, not that young, that's funny. Thank you man. We

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01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: did not put her up.

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Speaker 5: We need more female guest pickers, John, this is It's good.

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01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: There dozens of us out.

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Speaker 4: Here, Anna Florian podcast at gmail dot com if you

1425
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 4: want to make picks.

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: But we're happy to have Emma today and let's get

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 4: Comb main event, Atlantic City, New Jersey rematch between a

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Speaker 4: couple of recent t City victims here Frankie Edgar and

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Speaker 4: Cub Swanson. Edgar took the first meeting against Cub Swanson.

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Speaker 4: It was a five round main event back in twenty fourteen.

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 4: Frankie submitted Cub with a neck crank with four seconds

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01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 4: to go in the fifth and final round.

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Speaker 1: So the second meeting.

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Speaker 4: The odds are as follows Frankie monus two twenty five

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Speaker 4: Cub plus one seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Emma, the floor is yours. Who do you like? Edgar

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Speaker 1: or Swanson?

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 9: Well, it sucks either two of my favorite fighters. I

1440
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 9: have a Cub Swanson shirt I wear around cool. I

1441
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 9: do think Cub has improved a lot since the first fight,

1442
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 9: but I also think Frankie hasn't gotten worse, and I

1443
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 9: think his wrestling is still going to overwhelm Cubs. I

1444
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 9: gotta pick Frankie.

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01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: Emma goes with Frankie Edgar. I just like her tone.

1446
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have Emma back maybe next week. Kenny,

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01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean she could. She's the furthest thing from nervous.

1448
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't you can tell she ain't nervous

1449
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 4: at all. Fuck these guys, Ken, FRANKI nger, Cub Swanson. Man,

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 4: you know it's interesting because Frankie it will be seven

1451
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: weeks since the Ortaga knockout, but it's still a decision

1452
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 4: that surprised a lot of people. Your thoughts on Frankie

1453
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 4: and Cub running it back here Saturday.

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 5: Night, Well, Emma's already making me nervous because I agree.

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 5: I think Frankie's gonna take this. I have a hard

1456
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 5: time believing that Frankie's gonna lose in Jersey after coming

1457
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: off a loss to Ortega. I think Frankie is going

1458
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 5: to be extremely fired up. He had the blueprint on

1459
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 5: how to beat Cub the first time around. I don't

1460
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 5: imagine that he'll do something differently here, and I do

1461
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 5: agree with Emma as well that Cub is a different fighter,

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 5: that he is improved since that first fight against Frankie.

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: But I think Frank's gonna pull it off again.

1464
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: All right, Lightweight main event close on paper here. According

1465
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 4: to the odds makers, Kevin Lee holding is the favorite

1466
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 4: about minus one p forty right now. Edson Barboza the

1467
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 4: slight underdog at plus one ten, so Emma will need

1468
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: the round the method of victory as well as this

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Speaker 4: is the main event. Who do you think takes it

1470
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Speaker 4: here in Atlantic City? Edson Barbosa or the Motown phenom

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Speaker 4: Kevin Lee.

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Speaker 9: I love both these guys too, so it's a really

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01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 9: hard week for me. But I think Edson does have

1474
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 9: better takedown defense, so he showed in a deep fight,

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01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 9: but I think Kevin's going to pressure him, take away

1476
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 9: his kicks, get him down, soft him up with punches,

1477
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 9: and finish him with a rear naked choke in the fifth.

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01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 4: Rout and pretty late round five rear naked shoke. Kevin

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Speaker 4: Lee is the pick for Emma ken Flow Your thoughts

1480
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 4: on Barboza and Lee coming up real quick. Before we

1481
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 4: get there, I just want to point out for Kevin Lee,

1482
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: he is back here for the first time since that

1483
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 4: October interim title fight with Tony Ferguson.

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: That night he did have.

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 4: Of course, the late Robert fallis in his corner, so

1486
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 4: that is part of the challenge here for Kevin Lee

1487
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: moving forward without his chief corner. I thought that was

1488
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 4: like a perfect yin Yang, the two of those. But

1489
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: I know that Kevin Lee has absorbed a lot of

1490
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 4: that wisdom and is going to take it forward with him,

1491
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: not just Saturday night, but in his career. So a

1492
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 4: lot of good was done there despite the fact that

1493
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 4: he won't have Robert this weekend Barbosa. Of course, Kenny

1494
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: against Kabib didn't have a lot of answers, but certainly

1495
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 4: proved a lot to a lot of people. And with

1496
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 4: that backdrop, we'll need a selection, kid, who do you like?

1497
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: This is a tough one for me as well.

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 5: I think Kevin Lee is a smart fighter, and I'm

1499
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 5: sure he learned a lot in that fight against Tony Ferguson.

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 5: I think it's in Barbosa is a tremendous striker. Again,

1501
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 5: this is a home game for him. I think that

1502
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee does make some mistakes on the feet.

1503
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a tough matchup.

1504
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 5: If Kevin can rely heavily on his wrestling and kind

1505
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 5: of copy a similar blueprint than what Habib did, I

1506
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 5: think he can give Ed's an really tough time and

1507
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 5: win that fight, no doubt about it. But I think

1508
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 5: Edson is the speed advantage. I think for Edson and

1509
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 5: just the fact that he could put together some nasty

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Speaker 5: combinations and really hurt you both downstairs with your legs

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 5: and upstairs or even into the body with that left hook.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough for Kevin. I'm gonna go with

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 5: Edson here. This is a tough one, but I think

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 5: Edson wins this one in and around the third round.

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Speaker 1: Let's go third round.

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Speaker 4: Three you go on TKO for Edson Barboza. Yeah, kem

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: Filler likes that. Plus money on Edson Barboza. He's just

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 4: got the Povi face. He definitely likes it all right,

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 4: quick picks here on the way out Amiso at Banham

1520
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: Wait longos guy al Jamine Sterling. So he had that

1521
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 4: win against Hennon Barrow last July. Then he got knocked

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: out in sixty seven seconds by Marlon Marie. Brett Johns

1523
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 4: on the other side fifteen and oh, which way you

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Speaker 4: go in here?

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Speaker 1: Al Joe or Brett Johns.

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 9: I like Brett Johns for this one.

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 4: Brett John's all right, Yeah, I'm gonna go with al Joe,

1528
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 4: Al Joe, all right?

1529
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: Next up Dan Hooker.

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: Back to back finishes for Hooker against Ross Pearson and

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01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 4: Marc Cha Casey, so he gets a bigger name here,

1532
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: New Jersey's own Jim Miller, who will be making his

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 4: twenty ninth UFC appearance.

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Emma, Jim Miller, Dan Hooker, who do you like?

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 9: Breaks my heart? But I'm picking Dan.

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 4: Hooker, Dan Hooker, Ken Flow, Dan Hooker, Jim Miller, Who

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 4: do we back here?

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Hangman on this one, all right.

1540
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 4: And then finally Ryan Leflair returning for the first time

1541
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 4: since last July when he got knocked out by the

1542
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 4: aforementioned Alex cowboy O Lavera. Here, Laflair draws ken Flow's

1543
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 4: former teammate Alex Garcia. He had a knockout of the

1544
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 4: King of Kong Fu Muslim Salakov his last time out. Emma,

1545
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 4: you going Ryan Leaflair, Alex Garcia.

1546
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 9: Alex Garcia for this one?

1547
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: Alex Garcia can flow? Which way you're going Garcia Laflair?

1548
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if Garcia can get his conditioning in

1549
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 5: check and pace himself for this one, I think Garcia

1550
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 5: should win.

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm a great job. I wish we had well.

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say a bigger card, but we're going to

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 4: have you back for a PA review. Lets you go

1554
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 4: five picks head to head against this guy and make

1555
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: him pay. Thank you for listening and for hopping on today.

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 4: We will definitely have you back before the year's out.

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 9: Sounds great, Thanks guys.

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff there for Emma, Frankie Edgar and

1559
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee.

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Speaker 4: Interesting main event about where I thought the line would

1561
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 4: be close to a pick him fight. All right, final

1562
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: thoughts on the way out here on this card in Phoenix, Arizona, Glendale.

1563
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 4: I should say we didn't get a chance to talk

1564
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 4: about Michelle Waterson and some of the other big winners.

1565
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get your two cents on Israel

1566
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: Atasanya and his split decision went over.

1567
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Marvin Vittoria.

1568
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you saw this again, I think

1569
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 4: there was a lot of good in the fight. For Adasanya,

1570
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 4: he was fighting a very durable, tough Italian in Marvin Vttori,

1571
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 4: who has improved his all around game a lot. And

1572
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: again I think there's value in these fifteen minutes. For Autasanya,

1573
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 4: he didn't get the finish, but I was surprised it

1574
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 4: was split Kenny.

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: I thought he did enough to win this fight fairly decisively. Yeah,

1576
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: without a doubt. I don't understand that at all.

1577
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 5: But that's a scary, scary, scary result there.

1578
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: Thankfully he was able to get the win.

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, for israel ed Asanya, he obviously won the

1580
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 5: first two rounds. The fact that there was a judge

1581
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 5: that thought that maybe he lost one of those rounds

1582
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 5: is pretty scary. The third round he did lose. You know,

1583
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 5: he was taken down and he definitely showed his vulnerability.

1584
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 5: I mentioned that last week. I said, that's what kind

1585
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 5: of concerns me is the fact that Martin Vittori, if

1586
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 5: he does get him down, can do some serious damage,

1587
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 5: potentially submit him. But I think Vittori was too little

1588
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 5: bit too tired, a little bit too beat up to

1589
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 5: really do much to Israel down there. Israel's gonna have

1590
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 5: to get better takedown defense. He's gonna have to get

1591
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 5: better jiu jitsu, period. That's what he should be working on.

1592
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: He also needs to perhaps stop putting so much pressure

1593
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 5: on himself to look good or get this flashy knockout,

1594
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 5: or he just needs to go out there and just fight.

1595
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 5: Just stick to what he's doing, don't try to put

1596
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 5: on a show. Just fight, see what's in front of you,

1597
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 5: and take him out on the feet. He's going to

1598
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: be a problem for anyone. He busted up victory pretty

1599
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 5: good on the feet.

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Speaker 4: Man Yeah, and at the karate Hatty looked great against

1601
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 4: Courtney Casey. She wanted the challenge of fighting a bigger,

1602
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 4: stronger opponent. She got it and I thought she won

1603
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: that fight. Split decision for her. We mentioned Antonio Carlos Junior,

1604
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 4: big win for the King of Kong Fu. Muslim Salakov

1605
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 4: gets his first UFC win. John Moraga continues to show

1606
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 4: a second version and move himself up the ladder at

1607
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 4: least into the top seven at Flyway Yushanokami with a win.

1608
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: Adam v.

1609
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 4: Chorik, the Polish Kid with a Olma plata, just the

1610
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 4: second in UFC history. Gilbert Burns with a massive knockout

1611
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 4: on UFC Fight Pass, which really I think stamps him

1612
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 4: as somebody to keep an eye on a fifty five.

1613
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 4: And then finally Lauren Mueller in the women's flyweight division,

1614
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 4: one of the better women I think to come out

1615
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: of Alliance MMA, and this was her debut, nicely done

1616
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 4: over Shana Dobson. I think Lauren Mueller can really turn

1617
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 4: into something. She's just getting started. So fourteen fights. It

1618
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: was a scary proposition for broadcasters going in to prep

1619
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 4: for twenty eight fighters, but fighters delivered as usual, one

1620
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: of the best domestic crowds I have ever heard there

1621
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 4: in Glendale, Arizona. So another big Fox UFC fight night

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Speaker 4: is in the books.

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Speaker 1: Atlantic City, New.

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Speaker 4: Jersey this Saturday night on FS one. Also, don't forget

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Speaker 4: if you are in the southern California area and you

1626
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Speaker 4: like Brazilian jiu jitsu.

1627
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Speaker 1: I am not one of those people. I do not

1628
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: like Brazilian jiu jitsu.

1629
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,440
Speaker 4: But if you are one of those people, May ROCKYBJJ,

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Speaker 4: MAYROCKYBJJ dot com. M E r Aki. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how many times. I have to plug this school to

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Speaker 4: get a T shirt in the mail.

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Speaker 5: I know podcast my parents are passling as well. I

1634
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 5: gotta get you. I will send you one out. Thank

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 5: you so much.

1636
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: Ma Man, I'm and it is two oh nine. Every

1637
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 4: time I look at the clock, it is two oh nine.

1638
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 4: You know that's a coincidence or not.

1639
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening.

1640
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 4: Thank you to our guest Chase Sherman, Dean Thomas, Ray Longo,

1641
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 4: Emma on the Picks, who did fabulously.

1642
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: Next week we are back.

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: We'll recap the Atlantic City Show and begin to look

1644
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 4: at UFC two twenty four, which is known as versus

1645
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 4: Pennington May twelfth and Rio Dejaneira And speaking of witch

1646
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: Ken Flow, I gotta go get these shots.

1647
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: Ready. What do you got?

1648
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Speaker 4: Hepatitis A, typhoid, hepatitis B, malaria and yellow fucking.

1649
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Speaker 1: Fever yellow fever, geezs.

1650
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Speaker 4: If my wife wasn't pregnant, I'd probably take the risk.

1651
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Speaker 4: But I can't be bringing yellow fever back to Bok

1652
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,480
Speaker 4: Tone Florida's.

1653
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 5: Right, and you're talking about actual yeah, I mean yeah,

1654
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 5: that's not good. That's not like if you die from malaria.

1655
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 5: I mean, our yellow fever like, come on, then.

1656
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Speaker 1: Just be the Kenny Florian podcast. Would best? Would really

1657
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: be off and running? Yeah, that would be bad, dude.

1658
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: We can't have that. All right.

1659
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 4: Thank you all for listening indulging us as usual. We

1660
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: love you at Anti Chlorian pot on Twitter. If you

1661
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 4: have guest suggestions, we will take them with that for

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow and our fine crew Bend Withsoric and the rest.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all. We will talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, you'll let.

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Speaker 3: John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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