WEBVTT - Pregnant by the Effing Bachelor | EP 10

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<v Speaker 1>After the family court judge made her ruling, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a long wait to see if Laura would be criminally charged.

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton wanted Laura to face consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>We also were like, are we asking for too much

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<v Speaker 2>to get her prosecuted? The only when is her being

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<v Speaker 2>held accountable?

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't the only one who felt that way. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after Clayton's trial, content creator Megan Fox launched a letter

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<v Speaker 1>writing campaign. The goal was to try to get the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell so that her

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<v Speaker 1>office would pursue criminal charges against Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 3>All I did was put the idea out there, write

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of templates for people if they had a

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<v Speaker 3>problem writing, and asked them to do it. The fact

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<v Speaker 3>that people sat down and did this, that's organic. They

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<v Speaker 3>licked stamps, put them on envelopes and sent them in.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that Attorney Mitchell, while she out a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of letters, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>Had offended a lot of people directly and indirectly, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was their chance to be heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Megan again.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big believer in writing paper letters because if

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<v Speaker 3>you send emails, nobody reads them. But if they get

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<v Speaker 3>faxes and paper letters that you have to dump on

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<v Speaker 3>their desks, just like in Miracle on thirty fourth Street.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't ignore you, and they really start to think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a real problem here. People cared enough to walk

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<v Speaker 3>to the mailbox and send me a letter, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be heard, and the next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>action starts happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just random Reddit users writing letters to Rachel Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the letters were from people who'd been personally

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<v Speaker 1>impacted by Laura Owens, like Danielle Marriccini, Mike's wife. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Danielle wrote.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Dear Rachel Mitchell, my name is Danielle Marriccini,

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<v Speaker 5>and I am writing to you not only as the

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<v Speaker 5>wife of Michael Marriccini, but as a mother and a

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<v Speaker 5>woman deeply affected by the ongoing trauma inflicted upon my

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<v Speaker 5>family by Laura Michelle Owens. Michael has been the direct

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<v Speaker 5>target of Laura Owens's manipulative and malicious behavior, and it

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<v Speaker 5>has caused serious emotional, psychological, and reputational harm. Her actions

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<v Speaker 5>have gone far beyond the boundaries of conflict or disagreement.

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<v Speaker 5>They have been tormenting, targeted, and entirely destructive. She has

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<v Speaker 5>continuously made efforts to disrupt our lives, spread falsehoods, and

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<v Speaker 5>create division within our personal and professional circles. Over the

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<v Speaker 5>past several years, I have had to sit through two

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<v Speaker 5>separate court hearings, one in twenty twenty and another in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty four, both initiated by Laura Owens falsified claims.

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<v Speaker 5>I was pregnant with each of my daughters during those proceedings.

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<v Speaker 5>To endure such stressful and emotionally charged legal battles while

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<v Speaker 5>expecting our children was incredibly traumatic. As a result of

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<v Speaker 5>her actions, I have endured in stress and anxiety, and

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<v Speaker 5>our family has lived in fear and uncertainty for far

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<v Speaker 5>too long. The relentless nature of Laura's behavior has caused

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<v Speaker 5>sleepless nights, strained relationships, and has affected our ability to

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<v Speaker 5>feel safe in our own lives. We are pleading with

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<v Speaker 5>your office to take a closer look at this case,

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<v Speaker 5>not just as a legal matter, but as a human one.

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<v Speaker 5>What Laura Owens has done is not only harmful but unjust.

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<v Speaker 5>We need accountability, and more importantly, we need protection. I

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<v Speaker 5>asked that you consider the long standing pattern of emotional

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<v Speaker 5>abuse and manipulation of Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Stephanie Young, and this is love trapped.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no way.

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<v Speaker 7>You better believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be raising Holy Helps if you ever, ever, ever ever.

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<v Speaker 7>Trash.

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<v Speaker 1>After Clayton's trial, there was a groundswell of support for

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<v Speaker 1>people who'd been victimized by Laura Owens. Mike Marriccini wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a letter of his own to the prosecutor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not only a plea for them to take Laura's action seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>but an offer to help their investigation in any way

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<v Speaker 1>he could.

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<v Speaker 8>I said, listen, I have all of this information here.

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<v Speaker 8>I would love to share this with you. She's going

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<v Speaker 8>to try to make all of our lives hell. Please

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<v Speaker 8>look at this information. And she responded within I would

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<v Speaker 8>say two hours and said I'm including my investigators on

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<v Speaker 8>this case. They'll be reaching out to you. They called

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<v Speaker 8>me within another hour and they're like, when can we

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<v Speaker 8>come to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike sent them evidence he had collected, including what he

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<v Speaker 1>had on his old laptop. Within a week, the investigators

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<v Speaker 1>flew to California to interview him.

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<v Speaker 8>For several hours at my house and they didn't give

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<v Speaker 8>me any details of what they were looking into, but

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<v Speaker 8>they said they traveled all over the US and they

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<v Speaker 8>were taking this case very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>They were looking for proof of any criminal behavior. I

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to Rachel Mitchell's office to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>would weigh in for this podcast. They wrote back saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she's unable to comment given that this is an

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<v Speaker 1>open case. But Rachel Mitchell did give a public update

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<v Speaker 1>at a press conference in August of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking to one of the investigators working on

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<v Speaker 6>it this morning about an update, and I know they're

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<v Speaker 6>going through it quickly. They've talked to a number of people,

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<v Speaker 6>and as you can imagine, it's gathering information from a

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<v Speaker 6>number of different sources, medical courts, et cetera. So they're

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<v Speaker 6>busy working on that.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of episode seven, you heard Clayton's family

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<v Speaker 1>court trial and the judge's ruling. After that, there were

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<v Speaker 1>months of waiting. Rachel Mitchell's office carried out their investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>As we talked about in the last episode, Laura stayed

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<v Speaker 1>busy by posting online telling her side of the story. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>on the morning of January twenty ninth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve police officers in tactical gear showed up at the

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<v Speaker 1>Owens family home. They were there to execute a search

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<v Speaker 1>warrant of the Owens property, looking to find evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>would support their growing criminal case against Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 7>Play search war.

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<v Speaker 1>The twelve cops split up, with one group going around

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<v Speaker 1>back to the casita where Laura lived. It's a detached

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<v Speaker 1>studio apartment behind the main house. Another group of officers

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<v Speaker 1>went to the front door where Laura's parents lived.

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<v Speaker 9>And Ron Laura Blase search warrant opened the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay What you're hearing is the real audio from the

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<v Speaker 1>officer's body cams. This wasn't the Scottsdale p ds first

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<v Speaker 1>trip to the Owens home. Over the last few years,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been there at least four times to conduct welfare

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<v Speaker 1>checks on Laura. Most of those calls were triggered by

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous tips from people concerned about the suicidal ideation she'd

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<v Speaker 1>been posting online. On this day, the police stood at

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<v Speaker 1>the front door, repeatedly knocking.

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<v Speaker 10>Police search warr.

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<v Speaker 11>Jan War or Ron.

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<v Speaker 7>Opened the door.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear motion from behind the door. It's Laura's mom, Jan,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not opening it even for the police.

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<v Speaker 7>We're the police department.

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<v Speaker 9>Jan scott Sell Police to Detective Buckner with the Scott

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<v Speaker 9>Sell Police Department. We have a search warn Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 9>serving on the behalf of the Maricopa County's Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 11>You need to open up the door.

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<v Speaker 1>In an odd turn of events, with twelve police officers

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<v Speaker 1>on her property.

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<v Speaker 10>She says she's calling the policeman.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jan still won't open up the door.

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<v Speaker 10>Dan, we do not want to breach your door.

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<v Speaker 9>We will if we have to the door, Daan, we

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<v Speaker 9>will ran your door where you're not.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't want to damage your door.

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<v Speaker 8>Just pop the door and talk to us.

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<v Speaker 1>After two long minutes, Jan finally opened the door to

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<v Speaker 1>speak with the group of officers waiting outside.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, I are you out of the police apartment?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, We're not here to hurt you.

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<v Speaker 10>We're not here to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>I God, we can talk to your daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>The officers made their way into the main house. Almost immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>the scene turned chaotic. Everyone was talking over one another

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<v Speaker 1>and the confusion was palpable. The cops want eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the house, and they find Ron still in bed.

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<v Speaker 9>Regarding that, regarding Aura right entry, taking my character right now,

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<v Speaker 9>you're good to move to the casida.

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<v Speaker 1>When the cops approach the casida, they find Laura standing

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<v Speaker 1>there behind a sliding glass door.

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<v Speaker 10>Laura, Police, it's the police.

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<v Speaker 12>What it's the police department, Laura, scott Stale Police, you

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<v Speaker 12>see my badge.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura cracks open the sliding glass door, but leaves the

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<v Speaker 1>screen door in place with the.

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<v Speaker 13>Scott step police department. Okay, can you come out and

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<v Speaker 13>talk with us police?

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<v Speaker 12>No, the county attorneys have a search warm for your property,

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<v Speaker 12>so we need you to come out.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, I'm sorry, it's not even seven in the morning.

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<v Speaker 10>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm not comfortable having you. I don't know who you

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<v Speaker 13>guys are. I just told you I know, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't I'm not comfortable of opening my.

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<v Speaker 4>Screen behind her.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see into her casita. This body cam video

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<v Speaker 1>is our first real look into Laura's private world. The

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<v Speaker 1>floor is covered in clothes, even in the kitchen area

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<v Speaker 1>and bathroom on the opposite wall. The pile of clothes

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<v Speaker 1>is so high it reaches the bottom of the window.

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<v Speaker 1>The drawers hang open overflowing. Honestly, every single surface is

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<v Speaker 1>covered in stuff. The counters and bedside tables are buried

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<v Speaker 1>under papers, random electronics, even multiple pill bottles. Resting on

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<v Speaker 1>top is what looks like a pink Victoria's secret shopping bag.

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<v Speaker 1>The walls are decorated with those motivational art prints, like

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<v Speaker 1>one by her bed that reads you got this, another

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<v Speaker 1>in her kitchen that seems to read everything is figure outable.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops are trying to calm Laura down.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, well, if we were going to handle this more escalated,

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<v Speaker 12>we were just forced our way in.

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<v Speaker 8>But we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 12>We're trying to handle this as low key as possible.

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<v Speaker 13>I was told that if the police were going to

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<v Speaker 13>calm they would come during business hours. Can I call

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<v Speaker 13>my attorney please, I'm not comfortable.

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<v Speaker 10>You can call your attorney, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 13>Let me call my attorney.

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<v Speaker 14>Great.

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<v Speaker 13>Is something I'm concerned about my parents?

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<v Speaker 15>You guys, your guns drawn right now? Nobody's pointing like

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<v Speaker 15>I can't tell anybody you know what I do. My

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<v Speaker 15>parents know that somebody's here.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, we have officers talking with your parents right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this footage more than twenty times, studying it

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<v Speaker 1>from every available body cam angle, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear. While the officers are armed. Their guns are holstered,

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<v Speaker 1>not drawn, but Laura is shaken. Her hands are visibly trembling.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm giving you an opportunity. I told you we have

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<v Speaker 12>this search warmer, and let me have.

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<v Speaker 13>My my parents out here and on the phone.

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<v Speaker 16>Because I own I am.

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<v Speaker 10>I have to just listen to me.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, I've been nothing but respectful to you.

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<v Speaker 13>No seven o'clock in the morning. Let me just call

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<v Speaker 13>my attorney. Okay, you call my attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura starts firing off demands, but even as she's talking,

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<v Speaker 1>she's still refusing to actually open the door.

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<v Speaker 8>Open the door.

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<v Speaker 17>Can I just We're going to cut the screen and

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<v Speaker 17>come in.

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<v Speaker 8>If you don't, you can't if.

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<v Speaker 7>It's screening, isn't even incredible. I'm on the phone with

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<v Speaker 7>my attorney. I'll put him on the phone right now.

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<v Speaker 12>This is my.

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<v Speaker 16>Attorney, David Gingris, my attorney, David Gingers.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know who you guys are even do you

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<v Speaker 15>think I'm authority to search before seven o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 10>But the police are there.

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<v Speaker 13>Laura, okay, fine.

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<v Speaker 17>I need it.

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<v Speaker 7>There's seven of them in here.

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<v Speaker 1>After hearing from her attorney, Laura opens the screen door.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the men grabs her phone out of her hands.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't grab my phone and take it.

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<v Speaker 13>I need to speak to you. Guys have guns, you

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<v Speaker 13>know what you guys literally know.

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<v Speaker 7>My dogs.

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<v Speaker 10>Stay inside, all right, we're.

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<v Speaker 8>The mom's inside.

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<v Speaker 13>I speak to my mom. You guys have guns.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll speak mom.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm taking to her right now. Okay, okay, we have

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<v Speaker 10>contact with her. We are escorting her out.

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<v Speaker 1>The body cam continues as officers escort Laura into the

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<v Speaker 1>main house. Meanwhile, the group of officers who were already

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<v Speaker 1>inside the main house, we're waking up Laura's dad, Ron Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron asked why the police were there.

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<v Speaker 10>So Laura is a subject of an investigation by the courts.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's regarding it's regarding that.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So it's gonna be We're gonna come in here

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<v Speaker 9>and they'll explain it to you and they'll give you

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<v Speaker 9>a copy of the search warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron asks to see the search warrant and wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know the officer's badge number.

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<v Speaker 10>The badge for a seconds, Yeah number, it is fourteen

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<v Speaker 10>twenty two. Is my badge number. Okay, we're gonna I'll

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<v Speaker 10>leave it here for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer attending to Ron stays incredibly patient and helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to remember Ron has dealt with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of health issues over the years, and he actually needed

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<v Speaker 1>a hand just getting out of bed.

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<v Speaker 10>Let me get you your walker. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The officer hands him his robe and calmly explains exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, because I guess Laura has been a little bit uncooperative,

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<v Speaker 10>and they will. You can talk to the investigators. Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>they'll have all the details. We're just helping them out

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<v Speaker 10>with the service of the warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>As Ron gets out of bed, he looks at the

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<v Speaker 1>officer and warns him about Laura.

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<v Speaker 10>She is basically suicidal. She's suicidal. She has mentioned it, don't.

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<v Speaker 12>You dear.

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<v Speaker 5>She will.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the officer could finish his conversation with Ron, Laura

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<v Speaker 1>comes into the house, guided by two officers. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see they're handling her with extreme care, using what's known

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<v Speaker 1>as an escort grip, one hand on the wrist and

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<v Speaker 1>the other just above the elbow to keep things controlled

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<v Speaker 1>but steady. It doesn't look like they're using excessive force,

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<v Speaker 1>but Laura feels otherwise, and she's not quiet about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Please you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you were hurting me, they passed right by her

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<v Speaker 1>father's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to see.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's what I want. I want to see my father.

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<v Speaker 3>You are hurting me, and there's to be.

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<v Speaker 7>A report for what you have done. I guarantee you.

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<v Speaker 7>I will have bruises from this. I guarantee you. I will.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to see my father. Please.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I don't know where my mom here.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment Laura sees her mom, jan she frantically runs

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<v Speaker 1>straight to her. She says the police are horrible, inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>But between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five, Laura

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to the Scottsdale Police for help nearly twenty times.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the one contacting them, saying she'd been the

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<v Speaker 1>victim of harassment, press leaks, and restraining order violations. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that the tables had turned and she was the one

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<v Speaker 1>being investigated, Laura suddenly finds their presence inappropriate. She cries

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<v Speaker 1>to her mother that she's not sure if the police

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<v Speaker 1>are real or not.

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<v Speaker 18>I said I didn't know they were.

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<v Speaker 7>They still don't even know they got me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Laura hits her breaking point. She turns and

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<v Speaker 1>delivers the one line that, in many ways has come

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<v Speaker 1>to define this entire case.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, it's not even seven o'clock. I am

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<v Speaker 7>done nothing and get pregnant by the fighting bressler.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I say I'm going to kill somebody now. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>this video was recorded in January of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Six months earlier, it had been adjudicated that Clayton the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor wasn't the father of Laura's alleged twins because, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the judge, she was never pregnant. But she's sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with her story. Laura then hears her dad beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>shuffle into the room and shifts her focus to him.

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<v Speaker 7>I need to help my father. He don't get up.

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<v Speaker 10>My dad is handy capping. No, he can't get up.

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<v Speaker 13>You don't get it.

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<v Speaker 7>My dad can't get up and he's open. Sit there.

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<v Speaker 7>He can't get up his handicap. Please do not do no,

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<v Speaker 7>he can't. He has poor dad can do with this.

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<v Speaker 7>Fuck all of you guys, seriously, fuck you guys. He

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<v Speaker 7>is not even said in the morning, I agree, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear or her mom jan comforting her, agreeing

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<v Speaker 1>with her. Then Laura says this to the police.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you guys see what you've done? Do you see

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<v Speaker 7>what you've done. I mean it really that my family

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<v Speaker 7>is dealing with sir.

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<v Speaker 1>As her father walks in the room, Laura has a

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<v Speaker 1>realization all of this is being recorded the people.

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<v Speaker 19>You know what.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I'm sure they already told me they had body camps.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure they're gonna get thee becomes a public record with.

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<v Speaker 19>My father all.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the chaos, there's an almost farcical moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of addressing the twelve tactical officers in their living room,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura and jan start arguing with the police about which

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<v Speaker 1>chair is best for Ron to sit in.

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<v Speaker 7>He can't sit in that share rollers chair, the black chair,

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<v Speaker 7>the black chair.

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<v Speaker 10>You normally sit.

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<v Speaker 7>He'll roll in that one.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where he sits, so this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Laura has another realization. The police have already confiscated

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<v Speaker 1>her mom's phone.

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<v Speaker 7>Whoa, whoa, whoa. It does not say you guys can

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<v Speaker 7>take my mom's It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear the panic rising in Laura's voice. She

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<v Speaker 1>seems suddenly desperately concerned about what the officers might find

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<v Speaker 1>on her mom's device. The police hand her a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the warrant, but she only glances at it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I just did. On the person Laura Michelle Owen.

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<v Speaker 7>Where does it say you can take my mom's phone?

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Freeman warrant and it said you you can take

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's phone.

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<v Speaker 7>Read it, don't just look through it.

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<v Speaker 1>The officers aren't interested in the bickering. They're just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward and finish securing the property so they

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<v Speaker 1>can turn it over to the investigators.

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<v Speaker 12>So we're serving the search more on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 12>Maricopa County Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right, And I'm not saying where.

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<v Speaker 12>It's six thirty in the morning, my god, sir, So

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<v Speaker 12>for statute, we can serve a daytime search wark between

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<v Speaker 12>the hours of six thirty in.

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<v Speaker 10>The morning and ten at night.

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<v Speaker 13>And this is important enough.

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<v Speaker 10>So they are the investigators.

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<v Speaker 12>Our role here was just securing the property. So the

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<v Speaker 12>investigators have all the details that they drafted the search war. Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>we have investigation.

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<v Speaker 16>I have this. There's nothing that said you guys can

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<v Speaker 16>search my mom's phone.

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<v Speaker 7>I did read it. Don't don't you tell me I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't read it.

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<v Speaker 12>Mom, Laura, Like I said, we did not draft the

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<v Speaker 12>search on.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't say it start my mom's phone.

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<v Speaker 12>I haven't one to your mom's phone, and Laura, just

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<v Speaker 12>listen to me. Okay, just because we've set a phone aside,

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<v Speaker 12>doesn't mean that we're searching it. Oh god, this is

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<v Speaker 12>the most instant just because we've done that, just like

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<v Speaker 12>because we've put you guys in here are.

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<v Speaker 10>Looking for sir.

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<v Speaker 13>I can't tell you guys this enough.

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<v Speaker 12>We are not searching the property. Maricopa County Attorney's Office

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<v Speaker 12>is the one responsible for drafting this warrant and searching

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<v Speaker 12>for evidence for their case. We have merely secured the

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<v Speaker 12>property on their behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole time. The investigators have been standing a few

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<v Speaker 1>feet away, ready to get to work.

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<v Speaker 10>These are the County Attorney Office etectives. They have the

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<v Speaker 10>intelligence and the information on the case.

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<v Speaker 12>Any questions that you have, they may or may not

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<v Speaker 12>be at liberty to answer, based on the severity of

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<v Speaker 12>the case or whatever they're investigating.

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<v Speaker 8>But they are the.

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<v Speaker 10>Ones that the information behind it.

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<v Speaker 12>I do not have any information to provide you.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite everything else that is happening, the Owens family is

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<v Speaker 1>still fixed on one detail. They keep coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>the timing, asking again, why the police came before seven

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, or we can serve a.

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<v Speaker 12>Warrant between six thirty and but I mean, you've a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit of disco.

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<v Speaker 10>We're not talking about it.

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<v Speaker 12>When would you rather reserve it at noon where all

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<v Speaker 12>your neighbors see the police here?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you would rather that at six?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, well, we're well within our within the law to

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<v Speaker 12>do that, okay. So any questions that you have pertaining

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<v Speaker 12>to the case, the County Attorney's Office detectives can answer those.

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<v Speaker 1>The police turn the scene over to investigators who have

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<v Speaker 1>the cumbersome task of searching the house for evidence.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think we have comms with you guys, as

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<v Speaker 10>we need to just respond, you know, just yeah, no one,

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<v Speaker 10>what happens?

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you guys, thank you, thank you for all your hope.

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<v Speaker 10>Combine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where the body cam footage ends. Apart from

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement and the Owens family, no one knew this

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<v Speaker 1>raid happened, not Clayton, his lawyer, or any of the

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<v Speaker 1>online detectives. Three months past, where on the outside it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like not much was happening with the investigation into

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Owens. That was until a press conference on April

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, twenty twenty five. A local reporter put the

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<v Speaker 1>Maricopa County attorney on the spot and asked her about

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<v Speaker 1>the status of the investigation. Rachel Mitchell's response.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we are still actively investigating that. What I

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<v Speaker 6>will simply say is stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks after that press conference, everything changed for Laura Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>and we begin tonight with new developments and the paternity

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<v Speaker 1>case involving a former Bachelor contestant.

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<v Speaker 9>Breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been

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<v Speaker 9>indicted on fraud charges.

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<v Speaker 20>Owens is accused of altering an ultrasound image, lying under oath,

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<v Speaker 20>and fabricating a pregnancy video as part of her alleged scheme.

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<v Speaker 21>As for Ecker, the battle he's been fighting for two

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<v Speaker 21>years is now in the hands of prosecutors.

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<v Speaker 1>On May sixth, twenty twenty five, the news broke that

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Michelle Owens had been indicted on seven criminal charges.

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<v Speaker 14>A scott Stie woman who previously accused a former Bachelor

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<v Speaker 14>contestant of impregnating her, is now indicted on fraud charge.

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<v Speaker 22>It's almost a year long investigation sparked by a Superior

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<v Speaker 22>Court judge presiding over this paternity case involving the former

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<v Speaker 22>Bachelor star and a woman named Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 14>Grandeury indicted her on several felon accounts, including fraud, forgery, perjury,

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<v Speaker 14>and tampering with evidence.

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<v Speaker 21>The County Attorney's office says Owens went to extreme lengths

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<v Speaker 21>to manipulate Ekker.

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<v Speaker 22>After to your legal battle, Eckert is ready for prosecutors

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<v Speaker 22>to take over.

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<v Speaker 21>Owens released a statement saying she is stunned by the

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<v Speaker 21>charges and maintains that she was in fact pregnant but

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<v Speaker 21>had a miscarriage. She believes she was only charged because

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<v Speaker 21>of public pressure.

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<v Speaker 22>Owens has her arrangment hearing set for May twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>The online community who'd been following this story from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning was freaking out. Dave Neil even went livel at

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 9>Unbelievable, breaking news. We just found out Laura Owens charged

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<v Speaker 9>with fraud, seven counts. Unbelievable stuff.

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<v Speaker 17>Justice is served now for the first time. She's in trouble.

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<v Speaker 17>She has seven felony counts against her.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a seven count indictment, seven felonies for Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 13>If you didn't get the news, she's going down.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who'd been personally affected by Laura Owens. The

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<v Speaker 1>news brought an intense wave of emotion. Here's Mike Marriccini.

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<v Speaker 8>I know exactly where I was. I was on vacation

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<v Speaker 8>with my family. We were in a hotel room, so

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<v Speaker 8>I remember the setting. I remember seeing my daughters both

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<v Speaker 8>on the couch watching cart tunes, and I saw that

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<v Speaker 8>she had been indicted. But I remember immediately texting both

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<v Speaker 8>of the guys and giving my wife a big hug.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Mike's wife, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 5>We were finally seen in our pain. Just the innate

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<v Speaker 5>healing that comes from somebody telling you that they believe you,

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<v Speaker 5>just that nothing else is powerful.

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<v Speaker 8>It was surreal because I felt like justice was finally prevailing.

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnick, also remembers the moment he heard

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<v Speaker 1>the news.

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<v Speaker 20>I was in my car on the way home from

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<v Speaker 20>my office. I got a phone call telling me she'd

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<v Speaker 20>been indicted. I was certainly not disappointed that she was indicted.

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<v Speaker 20>I don't wish Laura a downfall. I don't even wish

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<v Speaker 20>her a lengthy prison sens. I've always wanted her to

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<v Speaker 20>get help and acknowledge what she did, but her being

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<v Speaker 20>charged was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton was walking home from the gym when he got

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<v Speaker 1>a call from a reporter at a local news station.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the one who told him Laura had been indicted

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<v Speaker 1>on seven felony counts, all related to his case.

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<v Speaker 2>I texted the guys and they're going ballistic, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I start getting more messages from other people,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I went straight to Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what Clayton posted that day.

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<v Speaker 8>Justice is finally served.

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<v Speaker 11>I am absolutely amped to share this news with you

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<v Speaker 11>all that today, as of like I think twenty minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 11>Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell has announced the indictment of

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<v Speaker 11>Laura Michelle Owens on felony charges related to the paternity scheme.

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<v Speaker 11>One count of fraudulent schemes a class two felony, one

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<v Speaker 11>count of forgery a class four felony, four counts of

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<v Speaker 11>perjury last four felony, and one kund of tampering with

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<v Speaker 11>physical evidence a class six felony. This nightmare is over.

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<v Speaker 11>I am so ready to not have to think about

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<v Speaker 11>this anymore. I want to say thank you to Rachel

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<v Speaker 11>Mitchell and the investigators for serving up justice. I want

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<v Speaker 11>to thank my lawyers. Oh They've been incredible standing by

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<v Speaker 11>my side.

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<v Speaker 8>This wouldn't have gotten to this point if it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 11>For Greg Woodnick and his entire incredible team. And this

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<v Speaker 11>is just such a weight lifted off. I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 11>at messages coming through right now from the other guys.

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<v Speaker 11>We are so so thankful and thank you all for

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<v Speaker 11>your support. I have not been this happy. This is

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<v Speaker 11>a weight of two years lifted off my shoulders. Of

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<v Speaker 11>these guys before me years lifted off their shoulders.

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<v Speaker 8>It feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Woodnick to explain the felony charges against Laura

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 20>We've got six levels of felony, with the Class one

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<v Speaker 20>and being the highest level of felony and Class six.

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<v Speaker 1>Being the post one against Laura is a Class two

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<v Speaker 1>felony charging her for fraudulent schemes and artifices.

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<v Speaker 20>The class two felony is a very serious felony charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there were six more felony counts for forgery, perjury,

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<v Speaker 1>and tampering with physical evidence. Charges like felony perjury are

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<v Speaker 1>very rare.

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<v Speaker 20>I've dealt with some challenging issues and people that have

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<v Speaker 20>struggles telling the truth in a courtroom, but I've never

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<v Speaker 20>seen someone go the distance that Laura did, and I

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<v Speaker 20>certainly have never seen a case result in this sort

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<v Speaker 20>of felony prosecution. The reason why I believe it was

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<v Speaker 20>prosecuted is because the behavior was so egregious. I have

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<v Speaker 20>never seen such egregious behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura, however, didn't see her actions as egregious, quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>The day after the indictments were handed down, she fired

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<v Speaker 1>back with an official press release. Here is a portion

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<v Speaker 1>of that statement, read by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 16>As someone who has never been charged with a crime

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<v Speaker 16>in my life, I am stunned by the seven felony

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 16>charges announced against me by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

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<v Speaker 16>These allegations appear to be the result of coordinate harassment, misinformation,

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<v Speaker 16>and public pressure in the aftermath of the paternity case

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<v Speaker 16>I filed against former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd. These charges

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<v Speaker 16>appeared to be the product of intense public pressure, not

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<v Speaker 16>impartial judgment. They reflect a system that responded to online outrage,

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<v Speaker 16>ignored procedural protections, and moved forward based on narrative rather

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<v Speaker 16>than fact. It is difficult not to see them as

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<v Speaker 16>part of a broader effort to discredit me, discourage me

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<v Speaker 16>and make an example out of me. I intend to

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<v Speaker 16>meet these accusations head on, and I will defend myself

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<v Speaker 16>fully and relentlessly through every step of this process.

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<v Speaker 1>The indictments against Laura are considered nonviolent, so she wasn't arrested. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she was served as summons to appear in court for

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>her arraignment on May twenty ninth, but she chose to

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<v Speaker 1>self surrender two days early. This was likely a strategic

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<v Speaker 1>move to demonstrate her cooperation to the judge and secure

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>a release without bail until her trial. Laura was officially

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<v Speaker 1>processed on May twenty seventh, and once her mugshot went public,

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<v Speaker 1>the online reddit community had plenty to say about it.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, she spent hours on her mugshot.

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<v Speaker 11>Look feels like she's trying to pull off a sad face,

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<v Speaker 11>but still comes across looking smug.

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<v Speaker 1>Who plumps and glosses lips for a mugshot. Wts wow,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this is a real sign just as and accountability

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<v Speaker 1>will hopefully be coming. Two days later, Laura had her

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<v Speaker 1>arraignment her usual She appeared virtually.

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<v Speaker 19>This is an over one on the court's calendar. State

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<v Speaker 19>of Arizona versus Owens Serra twenty twenty five zero zero

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<v Speaker 19>six eight three one zero zero one the z Owens,

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<v Speaker 19>would you please state your full name and date of birth,

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<v Speaker 19>Laura Michelle Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge had already received Laura's plea this morning.

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<v Speaker 19>Court will enter please if not guilty on behalf of

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<v Speaker 19>the defendantists to all counts one through seven, noting that

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<v Speaker 19>this is the initial appearance on each of those counts.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the judge set Laura's release conditions.

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<v Speaker 19>The defendant will be released on her own recognizance. Ma'am,

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<v Speaker 19>what that is is your promise to attend all future

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<v Speaker 19>court hearings. You don't need to post a bond at

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<v Speaker 19>this time. However, if you fail to appear for any

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<v Speaker 19>of your future court hearings absent good cause, court could

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<v Speaker 19>issue a bench warrant for your arrest and require that

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<v Speaker 19>you post a bond. If you are taken into custody

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<v Speaker 19>before you can be released, court will also order that

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<v Speaker 19>you not initiate any contact with any alleged complainant or witness.

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<v Speaker 19>You're not to leave the state, at least not without permission.

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<v Speaker 19>Looks like you've already taken care of your fingerprints, all right,

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<v Speaker 19>Thank you, Maszillanes, You're free to disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>After Laura disconnected a clock started ticking. Just because she

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<v Speaker 1>was indicted does not mean she was convicted. That's an

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>important distinction. And as we just heard, Laura pled not guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>So going forward, she has a few options. Either go

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<v Speaker 1>to trial to try to prove her innocence, or change

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>her plea to guilty and admit to the crimes the

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>state charged her with. Here's Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnick.

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<v Speaker 20>If she chooses to go to trial, I hope Laura

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<v Speaker 20>gets the fairest criminal trial she can get.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope she gets a wonderful jury of neutral.

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<v Speaker 20>People who want to be open minded about the evidence

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<v Speaker 20>and apply the law appropriately. Everyone deserves a fair jury trial,

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<v Speaker 20>and she's entitled to that in her criminal case.

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<v Speaker 10>Should she choose to pursue that.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to trial would mean dragging everything to light. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictments only gave a few small details about each charge,

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<v Speaker 1>like quote claiming that sonogram image was hers during sworn deposition.

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<v Speaker 1>Which sonogram in particular, or the evidence the state had

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't Laura's. No one knew, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>the content creators, like reality Steve had guesses.

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<v Speaker 17>The sonogram that we know is fake, but no one's

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<v Speaker 17>had to ask her. Laura's never done an interview with

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<v Speaker 17>me or Dave or anybody. Laura, we found the sonogram.

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<v Speaker 17>You stole it from YouTube, even though when you emailed

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<v Speaker 17>it to me you said, Steve, this is my proof

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<v Speaker 17>that I'm pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>About a month later, the state released its witness list,

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<v Speaker 1>which was sixty four names deep. If Laura goes to trial,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the people who would be called to testify.

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<v Speaker 1>As expected, the list features Clayton eckerd, Michael Marriccini, and

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Gillespie. It also includes some familiar names like Laura's

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<v Speaker 1>parents Jan Black and Ron Owens, Laura's sister Sarah, attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Woodnick and Deandra Arena, and even content creator Dave Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were some names on there that didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>sense at the time. That was until six months later,

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<v Speaker 1>when the state surprised everyone by releasing a public investigation report,

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<v Speaker 1>a one hundred and eighteen page document detailing their investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>explaining the evidence they'd found to support every felony count.

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<v Speaker 1>The content creators were especially excited.

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<v Speaker 17>This is ah wow, way weirder than I thought it

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<v Speaker 17>was gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 23>They were able to go into Laura's iCloud and find stuff.

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<v Speaker 17>A lot of them are interviews that they have done

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<v Speaker 17>during their investigation, a couple of them with Clayton, one

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<v Speaker 17>with her mother.

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<v Speaker 6>Jan the mother of Laura Owens, trying to have a

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<v Speaker 6>secret meeting with investigators.

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<v Speaker 13>Let's get into it, shall we this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, get your tea, at your tea.

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<v Speaker 1>The investigation report is like the state showing their hand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the information that would be in their case

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<v Speaker 1>at trial. It's redacted in some places, but we learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It addresses almost everything, including some mysteries I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly never thought i'd see an answer to. Here's journalist

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Fox.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, there's so much. There are nuggets in

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<v Speaker 3>here that are brand new that you really you need

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<v Speaker 3>to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go through this investigation report from the

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<v Speaker 1>Maricopa County Attorney's Office. We've had a voice actor read

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<v Speaker 1>from the report, and just for the record, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an AI voice. It's actually my husband, who happens to

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sound very official. We've also pulled in real clips of

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<v Speaker 1>Laura herself from various court hearings. Let's start with the

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>small revelation that you probably already saw coming. Remember that

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>video Laura sent to Reality Stephen Clayton that shows her

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<v Speaker 1>father Ron, in a hospital bed rubbing a woman's pregnant belly.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura claimed it was her in the video, but according

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<v Speaker 1>to the investigation.

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<v Speaker 23>Report, during a sworn deposition at the office of Greg

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<v Speaker 23>Woodnick Clayton, Eckert's attorney, Laura Owens testified to a video

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<v Speaker 23>clip of her father, Ron Owens in a hospital bed

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 23>rubbing her pregnant belly. Owens maintained that this was her

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<v Speaker 23>and her father by stating.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad's in the hospital and he touched my stomach.

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<v Speaker 23>However, Owen's face was not visible. The original video was

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<v Speaker 23>located during this investigation, and it can be seen that

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<v Speaker 23>Owen's sister, Sarah Owens Navarro, is the subject with the pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>We also learned from the same investigation report that the video,

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<v Speaker 1>which had no sound, actually has an audio track in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators specified that Laura and her mother, jan Black can

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>be heard talking in the background. At the June tenth trial,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll remember that Laura Owens said she only had one

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<v Speaker 1>ultrasound during her alleged pregnancy, which was done in California

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in July twenty twenty three. She admitted to altering the location, date,

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<v Speaker 1>and name on that sonogram using Adobe Acrobat. The whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>she remained adamant that the sonogram itself was hers.

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<v Speaker 4>But according to the investigation.

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<v Speaker 23>Report, Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Maricopa County

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<v Speaker 23>Superior Court in front of Judge Julie Matta when she

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<v Speaker 23>testified to a sonogram image. Owen's attorney asked, did.

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<v Speaker 8>You have a sonogram done in California.

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<v Speaker 23>Owens responded by stating, yes, I did. Owens admitted to

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<v Speaker 23>changing the location, the date, and placing her name on

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 23>the top banner. This sonogram was altered and was initially

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 23>that of her sister, Sarah Owens Navarro.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the altered ultrasnd from the Halloween meme, the

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<v Speaker 1>one she'd us to successfully secure an order of protection

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<v Speaker 1>against Clayton.

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<v Speaker 23>On the twenty fifth day of October twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 23>Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Americopa County Superior

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<v Speaker 23>Court when she testified regarding a sonogram that was attached

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<v Speaker 23>to an image of herself in a spoof Halloween costume

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 23>package from Reddit. Owens testified that the sonogram image she

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 23>has seen holding in the overall image is.

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<v Speaker 1>A sonogram of our son that only he had possession of.

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<v Speaker 23>Owen's attorney asked if this was a sonogram that she

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 23>sent Eckert or if anyone else received it. Owen stated

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<v Speaker 23>that the ultrasound was not sent to anyone else. This

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 23>sonogram image was found to have been from Owen's sister,

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 23>Sarah Owens Navarro's pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>As part of the investigation, Laura's mom, Jan Black, was interviewed.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>She asked to meet with the investigators without Laura's knowledge.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Mostly Jan stands by Laura's story, but there are a

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>few lines that raise an eyebrow.

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 23>Miss Black Owens spoke of death threats that she had

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 23>received and some additional theories connecting this to the Gilgo

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 23>Beach murders in New York or the Sewan Didnycombe sex

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 23>trafficking case. Miss Black Owens feels this may be part

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 23>of a bigger picture and agreed that the FBI may

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 23>be looking into it.

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you heard that correctly. Her mother believed that the

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>criminal investigation into Laura was connected to the Gilgo Beach

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>murders or the Shawn Comb's sex trafficking case.

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 23>Miss Black Owens asked how long this investigation would take.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 23>I said that I hoped that it wouldn't take too

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 23>much longer.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>These next two revelations are jaw dropping. First, remember, at

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this story, Laura told Clayton she was

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>certain he was the father because she hadn't had sex

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>with anyone else for over a year. According to the state,

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that appears to have been a lie.

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 23>Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Maricopa County Superior

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 23>Court when she testified that there was no possibility that

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 23>she could be pregnant by anyone other than Clayton Eckert

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 23>by stating.

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 13>There's no chance for anybody else's.

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 6>And no, I hadn't been intimate with anyone else since

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 6>March of twenty twenty two.

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 23>It was determined that Owens had sexual intercourse with Honor

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 23>about the fifth day of May twenty twenty three and

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 23>Honor about the twenty seventh day of May twenty twenty three.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Just a reminder, the night Laura went to Clayton's apartment

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>was May twentieth, twenty twenty three, meaning Laura had slept

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with another man two weeks earlier and one week later.

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>We're not using his name for his privacy, but it

0:41:53.120 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>seems he cooperated with investigators. Then there's the question of

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>how Laura could have produced a positive pregnancy test. As

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we've said, early detection pregnancy tests measure for a hormone

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>called hCG. It turns out hCG is something Laura bought.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 23>During a search of Owen's eyecloud, a series of messages

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 23>were noted that indicated that Owens had gone to Medspa

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 23>and purchased hCG, and that she had the injections delivered

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 23>to her home. These text exchanges also indicate that Owens

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 23>did not want her family to know she was injecting hCG.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>If Laura was injecting herself with hCG, like the state alleges,

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that could explain how she produced a positive pregnancy test,

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>even if she wasn't actually pregnant. The state leaned on

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the mountain of evidence they collected to push through a

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>seven count indictment against Laura Owens, and by the end

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>of the report, there's no mistaking and their conclusion.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 23>Laura Owens, an adult female podcast host, created a scheme

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 23>to elevate her notoriety and increase her commercial value by

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 23>attempting to blackmail Clayton Eckert, a television celebrity, into a

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 23>romantic relationship, by fraud, trickery, and deception. To this end,

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 23>Laura Owens perjured herself in court hearings and a deposition,

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 23>as well as tampering with evidence, forging documents, and material misrepresentation,

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 23>deceiving the courts and the victim, Clayton eckered.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You might think the criminal indictments were Laura's main focus

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>during the summer of twenty twenty five, but she was

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>gearing up to enter another legal battle once she seemed

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>particularly interested in. It involved her ex boyfriend from nearly

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>ten years prior, a man who didn't live in the

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>same state. Her five year domestic violence restraining order against

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Mike Marraccini was set to expire on July tenth, twenty

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. This left everyone wondering would she renew it.

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's Mike's wife, Danielle.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 5>We were expecting it. We kept talking, preparing ourselves for

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 5>the inevitable She's gonna renew but I do deeply think

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 5>that we also were like, no way, does she have

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 5>the balls to do it. So while we were saying

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 5>one thing, I think subconsciously we felt like there's no chance.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 5>And ultimately when we got to the day of and

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 5>nothing had hit the docket, we were like, we're free,

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Like we're done. She's learned her lesson. And to get

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 5>the notification that afternoon that she had fun filed at

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 5>like end of day I think it was like four

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 5>thirty five, was devastating.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>At the last minute, Laura Owens filed once again to

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>renew her domestic violence restraining order against Mike Marriccini. This

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>massive one hundred and one page filing centers primarily on

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>her June twenty twenty four trial involving Clayton Eckered, specifically

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>citing Mike's presence in the courtroom as a point of contention.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.760
<v Speaker 1>She alleged that Mike being in the court for Clayton's trial,

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>which again he'd been subpoenaed for, had violated her DVRO.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>She also alleged that Mike had been harassing her using

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the online pseudonym Honk my Meat. Mike denies any connection

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to this account. He says he was busy parenting his

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>two daughters, but Laura believed the Honk my Meat account

0:45:55.280 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was Mike anonymously harassing her. Laura argued that the extension

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of the restraining order was a necessary measure to ensure

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>her ongoing safety and privacy. My first phone call with

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Mike was scheduled for the following day. During our call,

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to talk about Laura's decision to renew Can

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you give us your raw reaction to Laura Owens renewing

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the domestic violence restraining order against you on July tenth.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 18>I'm incredibly frustrated. I'm angry at not just Laura for

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 18>keeping this going for more than a decade, but really

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 18>upset with our legal system.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 4>What are next steps for you?

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 18>I have to go to a trial to hopefully fight this,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 18>and right now it's either going to be another five

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 18>year domestic violence for training order, it's going to be

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 18>a permanent domestic violence for training order. So I'm trying

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 18>to limit the damage and hopefully get it overturned, but

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 18>most likely it will either become one of those two items.

0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to share about this,

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe how it's affecting your family or you.

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 18>It's definitely affected my family. I mean the amount of time, energy,

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 18>financial aspect has been wasted over the last decade fighting

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 18>this person has been terrible. And I don't wish this

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 18>upon anybody, and I just want to thank everybody for

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 18>their support, especially over the last few years.

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 8>With this going public.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>When Mike got the news about the renewal, you can

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>hear in his voice how defeated he was. Fighting this

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>again could cost tens of thousands of dollars.

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 8>I had been talking to certain attorneys beforehand and they

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 8>were kind of rattling off pricing to me, and they're like, well,

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 8>it could be anywhere from twenty five to fifty and then

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 8>if you go to trial, it's another fifty to seventy five.

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 8>And so I just sat and thought to myself, like,

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 8>do I want to do this again?

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>For Mike, that would mean dipping into his life savings,

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>money that could be used for his daughter's futures. Mike's

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>wife Didaniel Sai that at first he didn't want to

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 1>fight this again.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 5>When he got off the phone about fighting it and

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 5>the legal fees that we would incur, and he goes,

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 5>I can't do this, Danielle. I can't take another financial

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 5>hit like this, particularly because he is our sole provider

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 5>at this point. We aren't just spending money like it

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter. And he's like, I can't do it, and

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 5>I said, you have to do it. We have to

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 5>this time, and he was like, you're right, laying down

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 5>has done nothing. I cannot go through this again, like

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.240
<v Speaker 5>I can't put my family through this again.

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And then Mike got a phone call from Omar Serrato.

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>He's a family law attorney in California and a contact

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>creator known as the Tilted Lawyer on YouTube. For the

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>past couple of years, Omar has been doing legal comment

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and terry on Laura Owens's case.

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 8>I remember I got a phone call from Omar, and

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 8>I had asked him a couple of times, like would

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 8>you represent me. I'm going to spend forty thousand dollars

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 8>just trying to catch somebody up on this case, like

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 8>it would be really beneficial if I was able to

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 8>just use you. I'm pessimistic already. I'm assuming I'm going

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 8>to lose, but I don't want to spend all of

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 8>the money up front to lose. I'd rather have somebody

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 8>that's in my corner that has like an idea of

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 8>Laura in what she's tried to pull.

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>At first, Omar said he appreciated Mike's honesty, but that

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't going to be able to do it.

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But a few days later, Omar changed his mind.

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 8>He's like, listen, I'll do it. Just raise a gofund me.

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 8>Whatever is raised from the GoFundMe will help out dramatically,

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 8>and I will do this. And on top of that,

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 8>I'll add Rachel Warrez. I think she wants to be

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 8>in on this as well.

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Rachel Warrez is an attorney in California. She's also one

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>of the judges on the hit TV court program Hot Bench.

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Like Omar, Rachel had followed the Laura Owen's case closely.

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 8>I was so happy because both of these people were informed,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 8>educated and were true family law attorneys with tons of

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 8>experience in this matter. So I just felt like the

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 8>cards were with me this time.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Mike finally had the legal support he needed to give

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>him a real fighting chance.

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Here's Rachel Warrez with.

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 24>Mike in particular. I really felt like he had been victimized,

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 24>and I had read a lot of the text messages

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 24>that came out in the Clayton case, and I really

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.240
<v Speaker 24>felt as though he had been a victim of abuse,

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 24>that those text messages were very emotionally abusive, and this

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 24>was a victim that not only hadn't received help, but

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 24>had been flipped into the perpetrator somehow.

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 1>The legal was the first step for Mike to fight

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the DVRO, but it wasn't going to be easy.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 24>The standard for domestic violence in California has been broadened

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 24>to include things like disturbing the peace in terms of

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 24>a renewal. In particular, if you have a restraining order

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 24>against somebody and they've been violating it, that's grounds for

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 24>a renewal, and clearly that means you still need protection.

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 24>But the law in California has developed to say that

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 24>if someone is not violating the restraining order, that that

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 24>proves that it's working, and therefore that's another good reason

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.399
<v Speaker 24>to renew it. So not only do you not need

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 24>evidence of a single violation, but actually the judge can

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 24>consider the lack of violations evidence that a restraining order

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 24>has been successful and should continue.

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>The trial for the DVRO renewal would be held in

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. Ahead of their hearing, Laura had some requests

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 1>for the court.

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 4>First, she filed a.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Motion to wave life testimony in favor of a written statement,

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 1>citing the Americans with Disabilities Act.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 4>If this was.

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Granted, she would avoid a cross examination at the trial. Then,

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 1>citing confidential medical data and threats from the Justice for

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Clayton Group, she also requested the motion be sealed. The

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 1>filing disclosed several diagnoses, including autism spectrum disorder, epilepsy PTSD,

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>traumatic brain injury, panic and generalized anxiety disorders, and anorexia nervosa.

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>She also asked for a continuance on the hearing, meaning

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 1>she wanted more time due to her medical condition and

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>her father's recent hospitalization. The court ultimately denied all these motions.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Because she's the one who initiated the renewal, they wanted

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>her in person for the hearing, no exceptions. A two

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>day evidence hearing was set for October twenty first and

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>October twenty second in San Francisco. I got my plane

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>ticket and was ready to go cover the trial live.

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But the weekend before I was supposed to leave, I

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 1>got some news. It's Saturday, October eighteenth, and I got

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>some interesting news last night. Something came across the docket.

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It is a declaration of Laura Owens in support of

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>expedited request for reconsideration of motion to continue based on

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>urgent health concerns and request for ruling on the papers.

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Now you might be thinking, what the heck does that mean. Well,

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>earlier Laura tried to get a continuance on this case

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>due to health concerns, and the judge denied that continuance request.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>So that is why I booked my travel to San Francisco,

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>because I thought that this trial.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 4>Would be happening.

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Now this is an urgent health matter, which is kind

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of what she said earlier. However, this just got filed yesterday.

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>The trial is supposed to happen on Tuesday, so we

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>won't know a ruling on this until at least Monday,

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>if the judge even looks at it.

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 14>Now.

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the documents yet, so I don't know

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>what's in them, but I think this is going to

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>go one of two ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura's not showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>She also didn't request travel from the state of Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that she has a criminal proceeding there,

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<v Speaker 1>and anytime she leaves the state, she has to have

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>permission from the state to do so. She never filed

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this travel request, so in my mind, that's saying that

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<v Speaker 1>she never had any intention of going to this in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. Now, again, one of two things could

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>happen here. The first one is that she's just considered

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<v Speaker 1>a no show and the DVRO renewal request gets dropped

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<v Speaker 1>right then and there, and that's it now. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one is that the judge could look over these papers

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and grant the continuance, which means the trial will be

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<v Speaker 1>another time. Despite not knowing what would happen, I boarded

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the plane to San Francisco. My flight landed the night

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 1>before the trial was set to begin. I got into

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco at around six o'clock tonight and was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see if anyone could mean up. But I took

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 1>myself to dinner. I came to Original Joe's because it

0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 1>looked like, as San francis, good thing to do. Before

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<v Speaker 1>I arrived, Laura appeared to have been communicating with Mike's

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 1>attorney Omar. Those communications included a proposed stipulation from Laura

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 1>that's basically a list of demands. Here's what she'd asked for,

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<v Speaker 1>an extension of the DVRO for one year. Mike would

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<v Speaker 1>need to withdraw the filings he submitted in the twenty

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty five DVRO, and that the twenty eighteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty restraining orders would remain valid and on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>If Mike complied with these demands, among others, Laura would

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<v Speaker 1>agree to drop the DVRO after that additional year. Mike

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>was not willing to agree to that, but the night

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<v Speaker 1>before the hearing, Omar sent another email with the counter proposal.

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>He wrote, Let's keep this simple. We will agree to

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<v Speaker 1>mutually dismiss with prejudice, having both parties pay their own

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>fees and abide by all applicable laws. And while I

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was sitting there at dinner, I got a text with

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<v Speaker 1>an update. So I'm heading over to talk to Mike

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and Omar right now. But this, this is huge. I'd

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>never met Mike Marricini in person, but he and his

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 1>lawyer Omar invited me to the hotel room where they'd

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 1>been preparing for trial. They just heard the news that

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Laura might be dropping the restraining order. Content creator Megan

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<v Speaker 1>Fox had been in the room with them recording when

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they found out it came in an email from someone

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in Laura's camp. Here's Mike and his lawyer Omar. The

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<v Speaker 1>moment they got the email, he responded to you, how.

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<v Speaker 18>We did and we'll fear my zone.

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<v Speaker 8>Owe off.

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<v Speaker 7>It's over.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>That's so fantastic that it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge in San Francisco told Laura she had to

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 1>appear in person, but because of her felony indictments, she

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't leave the state of Arizona without permission, and she

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>hadn't filed that request yet. Everyone on Mike's team had

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>been waiting, holding their breath to see if Laura would

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>be showing up. Then this email came in saying she

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>accepted their terms and would be appearing virtually. It meant

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that DVRO would finally be over. When I knocked on

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the hotel room door, Mike greeted me with a hug.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like he'd been crying. I got my phone

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<v Speaker 1>out to record and asked them to explain the email

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>they'd just received. Mike's lawyer, Omar jumped in, all right,

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm recording, so tell me what just happened.

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<v Speaker 25>The case is over.

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<v Speaker 26>Unofficially, we are going to show up in court tomorrow morning,

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<v Speaker 26>nine am, and we're going to tell the JUCH that

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<v Speaker 26>the parties have reached a global resolution or owns is

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 26>going to miss her renewal motion with prejudice. Both parts,

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 26>paid her own costs, attorney fees, obey all federal and

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 26>statele hause, and go about their merry way.

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<v Speaker 10>That's all we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike left a few minutes later to get some rest.

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<v Speaker 1>He still had to show up to court the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>After he left, I asked Omar the obvious question, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that this is going to stick at nine

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>am tomorrow? Meaning is it really over? I've been following

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.280
<v Speaker 1>this case long enough to know that Laura has a

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 1>habit of saying one thing and doing another. And these

0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 1>emails seemed kind of suspicious. They weren't from her lawyer.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>She didn't actually have a lawyer in this matter. She

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:06.800
<v Speaker 1>was representing herself. These emails came from someone named Matthew

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>who was using a Gmail account. Now he is a

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 1>lawyer and Omar spoke with him on the phone, but

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>in this matter, he called himself a friend of the

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Owens family and was communicating with Omar on Laura Owens's

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 1>behalf as a quote friend of the court. About twelve

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>minutes later, Omar got an email directly from Laura Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily I was still recording.

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<v Speaker 25>Hey, so I just got this email from Laura email

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<v Speaker 25>the department saying, Hi, I am looping in doctor Green

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 25>and David Jingers, who like me, will be appearing via

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 25>Zoom tomorrow and also need a link.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you Warmer's regards.

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<v Speaker 25>That's the email.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew Laura had plans to appear by Zoom the

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<v Speaker 1>following morning, but they were under the impression that it

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>was just to accept the terms and drop the domestic

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<v Speaker 1>violence restraining order against Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>The email was cryptic. Why did she want.

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<v Speaker 1>Her doctor and her former attorney on the call if

1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>she was just going to drop the restraining order. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out the fight wasn't ending because Laura wasn't done

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Marriccini. For Mike, it felt like a power play.

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<v Speaker 8>This is what she gets off on, is having power,

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<v Speaker 8>manipulating people, manipulating the situation, utilizing the justice system. This

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<v Speaker 8>is her foreplay.

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