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Speaker 3: All I did was put the idea out there, write

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Speaker 5: What Laura Owens has done is not only harmful but unjust.

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Speaker 8: Hello, I are you out of the police apartment?

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Speaker 16: Attorney, David Gingris, my attorney, David Gingers.

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Speaker 15: I don't know who you guys are even do you

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Speaker 10: But the police are there.

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Speaker 17: I need it.

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Speaker 7: There's seven of them in here.

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Speaker 1: After hearing from her attorney, Laura opens the screen door.

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Speaker 7: Don't grab my phone and take it.

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Speaker 13: I need to speak to you. Guys have guns, you

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Speaker 7: My dogs.

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Speaker 10: Stay inside, all right, we're.

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Speaker 8: The mom's inside.

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Speaker 13: I speak to my mom. You guys have guns.

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Speaker 7: I'll speak mom.

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Speaker 10: I'm taking to her right now. Okay, okay, we have

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Speaker 1: Ron asked why the police were there.

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Speaker 10: So Laura is a subject of an investigation by the courts.

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Speaker 10: So it's regarding it's regarding that.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So it's gonna be We're gonna come in here

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Speaker 10: The badge for a seconds, Yeah number, it is fourteen

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Speaker 1: The officer hands him his robe and calmly explains exactly

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Speaker 10: they'll have all the details. We're just helping them out

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Speaker 10: She is basically suicidal. She's suicidal. She has mentioned it, don't.

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Speaker 12: You dear.

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Speaker 5: She will.

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Speaker 1: Before the officer could finish his conversation with Ron, Laura

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Speaker 7: Please you, you.

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Speaker 1: Were you were hurting me, they passed right by her

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Speaker 10: I want to see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I want. I want to see my father.

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Speaker 3: You are hurting me, and there's to be.

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Speaker 7: A report for what you have done. I guarantee you.

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Speaker 7: I will have bruises from this. I guarantee you. I will.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see my father. Please.

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Speaker 10: No, I don't know where my mom here.

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Speaker 1: The moment Laura sees her mom, jan she frantically runs

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Speaker 1: She was the one contacting them, saying she'd been the

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Speaker 18: I said I didn't know they were.

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Speaker 7: They still don't even know they got me.

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Speaker 1: And then Laura hits her breaking point. She turns and

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Speaker 7: You know what, it's not even seven o'clock. I am

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Speaker 1: Okay, I say I'm going to kill somebody now. Remember

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Speaker 1: Six months earlier, it had been adjudicated that Clayton the

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Speaker 7: I need to help my father. He don't get up.

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Speaker 10: My dad is handy capping. No, he can't get up.

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Speaker 13: You don't get it.

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Speaker 7: My dad can't get up and he's open. Sit there.

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Speaker 7: He can't get up his handicap. Please do not do no,

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Speaker 7: he can't. He has poor dad can do with this.

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Speaker 7: Fuck all of you guys, seriously, fuck you guys. He

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Speaker 1: You can hear or her mom jan comforting her, agreeing

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Speaker 7: Do you guys see what you've done? Do you see

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Speaker 1: As her father walks in the room, Laura has a

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Speaker 19: You know what.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sure they already told me they had body camps.

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Speaker 19: My father all.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the chaos, there's an almost farcical moment.

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Speaker 1: Instead of addressing the twelve tactical officers in their living room,

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Speaker 7: He can't sit in that share rollers chair, the black chair,

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Speaker 10: You normally sit.

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Speaker 7: He'll roll in that one.

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Speaker 6: That's where he sits, so this one.

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Speaker 1: Then Laura has another realization. The police have already confiscated

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Speaker 7: Whoa, whoa, whoa. It does not say you guys can

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Speaker 1: You can hear the panic rising in Laura's voice. She

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Speaker 7: Yes, I just did. On the person Laura Michelle Owen.

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Speaker 7: Where does it say you can take my mom's phone?

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Speaker 1: Jake Freeman warrant and it said you you can take

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Speaker 7: Read it, don't just look through it.

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Speaker 1: The officers aren't interested in the bickering. They're just trying

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Speaker 12: So we're serving the search more on behalf of the

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Speaker 7: That's right, And I'm not saying where.

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Speaker 12: It's six thirty in the morning, my god, sir, So

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Speaker 10: The morning and ten at night.

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Speaker 13: And this is important enough.

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Speaker 10: So they are the investigators.

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Speaker 12: Our role here was just securing the property. So the

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Speaker 16: I have this. There's nothing that said you guys can

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Speaker 7: I did read it. Don't don't you tell me I

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Speaker 12: Mom, Laura, Like I said, we did not draft the

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Speaker 7: It doesn't say it start my mom's phone.

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Speaker 12: I haven't one to your mom's phone, and Laura, just

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Speaker 10: Looking for sir.

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Speaker 13: I can't tell you guys this enough.

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Speaker 12: We are not searching the property. Maricopa County Attorney's Office

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Speaker 1: This whole time. The investigators have been standing a few

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Speaker 10: These are the County Attorney Office etectives. They have the

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Speaker 12: Any questions that you have, they may or may not

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Speaker 8: But they are the.

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Speaker 10: Ones that the information behind it.

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Speaker 12: I do not have any information to provide you.

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Speaker 1: Despite everything else that is happening, the Owens family is

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Speaker 12: Warrant between six thirty and but I mean, you've a

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Speaker 10: We're not talking about it.

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Speaker 12: When would you rather reserve it at noon where all

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you would rather that at six?

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Speaker 12: Well, well, we're well within our within the law to

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Speaker 1: The police turn the scene over to investigators who have

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Speaker 10: I don't think we have comms with you guys, as

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Speaker 12: Thank you guys, thank you, thank you for all your hope.

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Speaker 10: Combine.

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Speaker 1: This is where the body cam footage ends. Apart from

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Speaker 6: I mean we are still actively investigating that. What I

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Speaker 1: Two weeks after that press conference, everything changed for Laura Owens,

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Speaker 1: and we begin tonight with new developments and the paternity

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Speaker 1: case involving a former Bachelor contestant.

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Speaker 9: Breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been

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Speaker 9: indicted on fraud charges.

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Speaker 20: Owens is accused of altering an ultrasound image, lying under oath,

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Speaker 21: As for Ecker, the battle he's been fighting for two

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Speaker 1: On May sixth, twenty twenty five, the news broke that

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Speaker 14: A scott Stie woman who previously accused a former Bachelor

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Speaker 22: It's almost a year long investigation sparked by a Superior

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Speaker 14: Grandeury indicted her on several felon accounts, including fraud, forgery, perjury,

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Speaker 21: The County Attorney's office says Owens went to extreme lengths

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Speaker 21: to manipulate Ekker.

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Speaker 22: After to your legal battle, Eckert is ready for prosecutors

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Speaker 22: to take over.

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Speaker 21: Owens released a statement saying she is stunned by the

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Speaker 21: charges and maintains that she was in fact pregnant but

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Speaker 21: had a miscarriage. She believes she was only charged because

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Speaker 21: of public pressure.

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Speaker 22: Owens has her arrangment hearing set for May twenty ninth.

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Speaker 1: The online community who'd been following this story from the

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Speaker 1: beginning was freaking out. Dave Neil even went livel at

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Speaker 1: a baseball game.

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Speaker 9: Unbelievable, breaking news. We just found out Laura Owens charged

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Speaker 9: with fraud, seven counts. Unbelievable stuff.

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Speaker 17: Justice is served now for the first time. She's in trouble.

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Speaker 17: She has seven felony counts against her.

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Speaker 3: We have a seven count indictment, seven felonies for Laura Owens.

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Speaker 13: If you didn't get the news, she's going down.

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Speaker 1: For those who'd been personally affected by Laura Owens. The

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Speaker 1: news brought an intense wave of emotion. Here's Mike Marriccini.

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Speaker 8: I know exactly where I was. I was on vacation

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Speaker 8: with my family. We were in a hotel room, so

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Speaker 8: I remember the setting. I remember seeing my daughters both

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Speaker 8: on the couch watching cart tunes, and I saw that

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Speaker 8: she had been indicted. But I remember immediately texting both

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Speaker 8: of the guys and giving my wife a big hug.

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Speaker 4: Here's Mike's wife, Danielle.

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Speaker 5: We were finally seen in our pain. Just the innate

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Speaker 5: healing that comes from somebody telling you that they believe you,

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Speaker 5: just that nothing else is powerful.

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Speaker 8: It was surreal because I felt like justice was finally prevailing.

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Speaker 1: Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnick, also remembers the moment he heard

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 20: I was in my car on the way home from

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Speaker 20: my office. I got a phone call telling me she'd

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Speaker 20: been indicted. I was certainly not disappointed that she was indicted.

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Speaker 20: I don't wish Laura a downfall. I don't even wish

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Speaker 20: her a lengthy prison sens. I've always wanted her to

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Speaker 20: get help and acknowledge what she did, but her being

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Speaker 20: charged was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Clayton was walking home from the gym when he got

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Speaker 1: a call from a reporter at a local news station.

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Speaker 1: She's the one who told him Laura had been indicted

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Speaker 1: on seven felony counts, all related to his case.

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Speaker 2: I texted the guys and they're going ballistic, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I start getting more messages from other people,

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Speaker 2: and then I went straight to Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Here's what Clayton posted that day.

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Speaker 8: Justice is finally served.

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Speaker 11: I am absolutely amped to share this news with you

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Speaker 11: all that today, as of like I think twenty minutes ago,

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Speaker 11: Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell has announced the indictment of

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Speaker 11: Laura Michelle Owens on felony charges related to the paternity scheme.

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Speaker 11: One count of fraudulent schemes a class two felony, one

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Speaker 11: count of forgery a class four felony, four counts of

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Speaker 11: perjury last four felony, and one kund of tampering with

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Speaker 11: physical evidence a class six felony. This nightmare is over.

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Speaker 11: I am so ready to not have to think about

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Speaker 11: this anymore. I want to say thank you to Rachel

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Speaker 11: Mitchell and the investigators for serving up justice. I want

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Speaker 11: to thank my lawyers. Oh They've been incredible standing by

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Speaker 11: my side.

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Speaker 8: This wouldn't have gotten to this point if it wasn't.

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Speaker 11: For Greg Woodnick and his entire incredible team. And this

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Speaker 11: is just such a weight lifted off. I'm really looking

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Speaker 11: at messages coming through right now from the other guys.

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Speaker 11: We are so so thankful and thank you all for

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Speaker 11: your support. I have not been this happy. This is

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Speaker 11: a weight of two years lifted off my shoulders. Of

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Speaker 11: these guys before me years lifted off their shoulders.

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Speaker 8: It feels good.

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Speaker 1: I asked Woodnick to explain the felony charges against Laura

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Speaker 1: in Arizona.

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Speaker 20: We've got six levels of felony, with the Class one

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Speaker 20: and being the highest level of felony and Class six.

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Speaker 1: Being the post one against Laura is a Class two

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Speaker 1: felony charging her for fraudulent schemes and artifices.

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Speaker 20: The class two felony is a very serious felony charge.

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Speaker 1: Then there were six more felony counts for forgery, perjury,

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Speaker 1: and tampering with physical evidence. Charges like felony perjury are

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Speaker 1: very rare.

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Speaker 20: I've dealt with some challenging issues and people that have

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Speaker 20: struggles telling the truth in a courtroom, but I've never

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Speaker 20: seen someone go the distance that Laura did, and I

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Speaker 20: certainly have never seen a case result in this sort

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Speaker 20: of felony prosecution. The reason why I believe it was

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Speaker 20: prosecuted is because the behavior was so egregious. I have

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Speaker 20: never seen such egregious behavior.

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Speaker 1: Laura, however, didn't see her actions as egregious, quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: The day after the indictments were handed down, she fired

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Speaker 1: back with an official press release. Here is a portion

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Speaker 1: of that statement, read by a voice actor.

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Speaker 16: As someone who has never been charged with a crime

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Speaker 16: in my life, I am stunned by the seven felony

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Speaker 16: charges announced against me by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

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Speaker 16: These allegations appear to be the result of coordinate harassment, misinformation,

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Speaker 16: and public pressure in the aftermath of the paternity case

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Speaker 16: I filed against former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd. These charges

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Speaker 16: appeared to be the product of intense public pressure, not

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Speaker 16: impartial judgment. They reflect a system that responded to online outrage,

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Speaker 16: ignored procedural protections, and moved forward based on narrative rather

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Speaker 16: than fact. It is difficult not to see them as

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Speaker 16: part of a broader effort to discredit me, discourage me

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Speaker 16: and make an example out of me. I intend to

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Speaker 16: meet these accusations head on, and I will defend myself

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Speaker 16: fully and relentlessly through every step of this process.

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Speaker 1: The indictments against Laura are considered nonviolent, so she wasn't arrested. Instead,

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Speaker 1: she was served as summons to appear in court for

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Speaker 1: her arraignment on May twenty ninth, but she chose to

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Speaker 1: self surrender two days early. This was likely a strategic

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Speaker 1: move to demonstrate her cooperation to the judge and secure

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Speaker 1: a release without bail until her trial. Laura was officially

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Speaker 1: processed on May twenty seventh, and once her mugshot went public,

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Speaker 1: the online reddit community had plenty to say about it.

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Speaker 13: You know, she spent hours on her mugshot.

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Speaker 11: Look feels like she's trying to pull off a sad face,

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Speaker 11: but still comes across looking smug.

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Speaker 1: Who plumps and glosses lips for a mugshot. Wts wow,

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Speaker 1: seeing this is a real sign just as and accountability

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Speaker 1: will hopefully be coming. Two days later, Laura had her

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Speaker 1: arraignment her usual She appeared virtually.

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Speaker 19: This is an over one on the court's calendar. State

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Speaker 19: of Arizona versus Owens Serra twenty twenty five zero zero

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Speaker 19: six eight three one zero zero one the z Owens,

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Speaker 19: would you please state your full name and date of birth,

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Speaker 19: Laura Michelle Owens.

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Speaker 1: The judge had already received Laura's plea this morning.

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Speaker 19: Court will enter please if not guilty on behalf of

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Speaker 19: the defendantists to all counts one through seven, noting that

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Speaker 19: this is the initial appearance on each of those counts.

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Speaker 4: Then the judge set Laura's release conditions.

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Speaker 19: The defendant will be released on her own recognizance. Ma'am,

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Speaker 19: what that is is your promise to attend all future

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Speaker 19: court hearings. You don't need to post a bond at

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Speaker 19: this time. However, if you fail to appear for any

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Speaker 19: of your future court hearings absent good cause, court could

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Speaker 19: issue a bench warrant for your arrest and require that

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Speaker 19: you post a bond. If you are taken into custody

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Speaker 19: before you can be released, court will also order that

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Speaker 19: you not initiate any contact with any alleged complainant or witness.

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Speaker 19: You're not to leave the state, at least not without permission.

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Speaker 19: Looks like you've already taken care of your fingerprints, all right,

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Speaker 19: Thank you, Maszillanes, You're free to disconnect.

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Speaker 1: After Laura disconnected a clock started ticking. Just because she

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Speaker 1: was indicted does not mean she was convicted. That's an

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Speaker 1: important distinction. And as we just heard, Laura pled not guilty.

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Speaker 1: So going forward, she has a few options. Either go

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Speaker 1: to trial to try to prove her innocence, or change

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Speaker 1: her plea to guilty and admit to the crimes the

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Speaker 1: state charged her with. Here's Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnick.

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Speaker 20: If she chooses to go to trial, I hope Laura

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Speaker 20: gets the fairest criminal trial she can get.

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Speaker 8: I hope she gets a wonderful jury of neutral.

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Speaker 20: People who want to be open minded about the evidence

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Speaker 20: and apply the law appropriately. Everyone deserves a fair jury trial,

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Speaker 20: and she's entitled to that in her criminal case.

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Speaker 10: Should she choose to pursue that.

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Speaker 1: Going to trial would mean dragging everything to light. The

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Speaker 1: indictments only gave a few small details about each charge,

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Speaker 1: like quote claiming that sonogram image was hers during sworn deposition.

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Speaker 1: Which sonogram in particular, or the evidence the state had

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Speaker 1: that it wasn't Laura's. No one knew, but some of

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Speaker 1: the content creators, like reality Steve had guesses.

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Speaker 17: The sonogram that we know is fake, but no one's

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Speaker 17: had to ask her. Laura's never done an interview with

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Speaker 17: me or Dave or anybody. Laura, we found the sonogram.

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Speaker 17: You stole it from YouTube, even though when you emailed

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Speaker 17: it to me you said, Steve, this is my proof

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Speaker 17: that I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 1: About a month later, the state released its witness list,

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Speaker 1: which was sixty four names deep. If Laura goes to trial,

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Speaker 1: these are the people who would be called to testify.

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Speaker 1: As expected, the list features Clayton eckerd, Michael Marriccini, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Gillespie. It also includes some familiar names like Laura's

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Speaker 1: parents Jan Black and Ron Owens, Laura's sister Sarah, attorneys

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Speaker 1: Greg Woodnick and Deandra Arena, and even content creator Dave Neil.

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Speaker 1: But there were some names on there that didn't make

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Speaker 1: sense at the time. That was until six months later,

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Speaker 1: when the state surprised everyone by releasing a public investigation report,

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and eighteen page document detailing their investigation,

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Speaker 1: explaining the evidence they'd found to support every felony count.

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Speaker 1: The content creators were especially excited.

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Speaker 17: This is ah wow, way weirder than I thought it

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Speaker 17: was gonna be okay.

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Speaker 23: They were able to go into Laura's iCloud and find stuff.

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Speaker 17: A lot of them are interviews that they have done

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Speaker 17: during their investigation, a couple of them with Clayton, one

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Speaker 17: with her mother.

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Speaker 6: Jan the mother of Laura Owens, trying to have a

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Speaker 6: secret meeting with investigators.

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Speaker 13: Let's get into it, shall we this one?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, get your tea, at your tea.

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Speaker 1: The investigation report is like the state showing their hand.

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Speaker 1: It's all the information that would be in their case

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Speaker 1: at trial. It's redacted in some places, but we learned

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Speaker 1: a lot. It addresses almost everything, including some mysteries I

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Speaker 1: honestly never thought i'd see an answer to. Here's journalist

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Speaker 1: Megan Fox.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, there's so much. There are nuggets in

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Speaker 3: here that are brand new that you really you need

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Speaker 3: to hear.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go through this investigation report from the

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Speaker 1: Maricopa County Attorney's Office. We've had a voice actor read

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Speaker 1: from the report, and just for the record, it's not

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Speaker 1: an AI voice. It's actually my husband, who happens to

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Speaker 1: sound very official. We've also pulled in real clips of

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Speaker 1: Laura herself from various court hearings. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: small revelation that you probably already saw coming. Remember that

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Speaker 1: video Laura sent to Reality Stephen Clayton that shows her

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Speaker 1: father Ron, in a hospital bed rubbing a woman's pregnant belly.

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Speaker 1: Laura claimed it was her in the video, but according

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Speaker 1: to the investigation.

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Speaker 23: Report, during a sworn deposition at the office of Greg

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Speaker 23: Woodnick Clayton, Eckert's attorney, Laura Owens testified to a video

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Speaker 23: clip of her father, Ron Owens in a hospital bed

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Speaker 23: rubbing her pregnant belly. Owens maintained that this was her

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Speaker 23: and her father by stating.

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Speaker 5: My dad's in the hospital and he touched my stomach.

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Speaker 23: However, Owen's face was not visible. The original video was

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Speaker 23: located during this investigation, and it can be seen that

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Speaker 23: Owen's sister, Sarah Owens Navarro, is the subject with the pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: We also learned from the same investigation report that the video,

669
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Speaker 1: which had no sound, actually has an audio track in it.

670
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Speaker 1: Investigators specified that Laura and her mother, jan Black can

671
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Speaker 1: be heard talking in the background. At the June tenth trial,

672
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Speaker 1: you'll remember that Laura Owens said she only had one

673
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Speaker 1: ultrasound during her alleged pregnancy, which was done in California

674
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Speaker 1: in July twenty twenty three. She admitted to altering the location, date,

675
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Speaker 1: and name on that sonogram using Adobe Acrobat. The whole time,

676
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Speaker 1: she remained adamant that the sonogram itself was hers.

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Speaker 4: But according to the investigation.

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Speaker 23: Report, Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Maricopa County

679
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Speaker 23: Superior Court in front of Judge Julie Matta when she

680
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 23: testified to a sonogram image. Owen's attorney asked, did.

681
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Speaker 8: You have a sonogram done in California.

682
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Speaker 23: Owens responded by stating, yes, I did. Owens admitted to

683
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Speaker 23: changing the location, the date, and placing her name on

684
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Speaker 23: the top banner. This sonogram was altered and was initially

685
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Speaker 23: that of her sister, Sarah Owens Navarro.

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Speaker 1: Then there's the altered ultrasnd from the Halloween meme, the

687
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Speaker 1: one she'd us to successfully secure an order of protection

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Speaker 1: against Clayton.

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Speaker 23: On the twenty fifth day of October twenty twenty three,

690
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 23: Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Americopa County Superior

691
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Speaker 23: Court when she testified regarding a sonogram that was attached

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Speaker 23: to an image of herself in a spoof Halloween costume

693
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 23: package from Reddit. Owens testified that the sonogram image she

694
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Speaker 23: has seen holding in the overall image is.

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Speaker 1: A sonogram of our son that only he had possession of.

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Speaker 23: Owen's attorney asked if this was a sonogram that she

697
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 23: sent Eckert or if anyone else received it. Owen stated

698
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Speaker 23: that the ultrasound was not sent to anyone else. This

699
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 23: sonogram image was found to have been from Owen's sister,

700
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Speaker 23: Sarah Owens Navarro's pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: As part of the investigation, Laura's mom, Jan Black, was interviewed.

702
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: She asked to meet with the investigators without Laura's knowledge.

703
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Speaker 1: Mostly Jan stands by Laura's story, but there are a

704
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Speaker 1: few lines that raise an eyebrow.

705
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Speaker 23: Miss Black Owens spoke of death threats that she had

706
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Speaker 23: received and some additional theories connecting this to the Gilgo

707
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 23: Beach murders in New York or the Sewan Didnycombe sex

708
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Speaker 23: trafficking case. Miss Black Owens feels this may be part

709
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 23: of a bigger picture and agreed that the FBI may

710
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Speaker 23: be looking into it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you heard that correctly. Her mother believed that the

712
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Speaker 1: criminal investigation into Laura was connected to the Gilgo Beach

713
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Speaker 1: murders or the Shawn Comb's sex trafficking case.

714
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Speaker 23: Miss Black Owens asked how long this investigation would take.

715
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Speaker 23: I said that I hoped that it wouldn't take too

716
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Speaker 23: much longer.

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Speaker 1: These next two revelations are jaw dropping. First, remember, at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of this story, Laura told Clayton she was

719
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: certain he was the father because she hadn't had sex

720
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Speaker 1: with anyone else for over a year. According to the state,

721
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: that appears to have been a lie.

722
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Speaker 23: Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Maricopa County Superior

723
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 23: Court when she testified that there was no possibility that

724
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Speaker 23: she could be pregnant by anyone other than Clayton Eckert

725
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Speaker 23: by stating.

726
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Speaker 13: There's no chance for anybody else's.

727
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 6: And no, I hadn't been intimate with anyone else since

728
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: March of twenty twenty two.

729
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Speaker 23: It was determined that Owens had sexual intercourse with Honor

730
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Speaker 23: about the fifth day of May twenty twenty three and

731
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 23: Honor about the twenty seventh day of May twenty twenty three.

732
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Speaker 1: Just a reminder, the night Laura went to Clayton's apartment

733
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: was May twentieth, twenty twenty three, meaning Laura had slept

734
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: with another man two weeks earlier and one week later.

735
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Speaker 1: We're not using his name for his privacy, but it

736
00:41:53,120 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: seems he cooperated with investigators. Then there's the question of

737
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: how Laura could have produced a positive pregnancy test. As

738
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: we've said, early detection pregnancy tests measure for a hormone

739
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: called hCG. It turns out hCG is something Laura bought.

740
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Speaker 23: During a search of Owen's eyecloud, a series of messages

741
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 23: were noted that indicated that Owens had gone to Medspa

742
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 23: and purchased hCG, and that she had the injections delivered

743
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Speaker 23: to her home. These text exchanges also indicate that Owens

744
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 23: did not want her family to know she was injecting hCG.

745
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: If Laura was injecting herself with hCG, like the state alleges,

746
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: that could explain how she produced a positive pregnancy test,

747
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Speaker 1: even if she wasn't actually pregnant. The state leaned on

748
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Speaker 1: the mountain of evidence they collected to push through a

749
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: seven count indictment against Laura Owens, and by the end

750
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: of the report, there's no mistaking and their conclusion.

751
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 23: Laura Owens, an adult female podcast host, created a scheme

752
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 23: to elevate her notoriety and increase her commercial value by

753
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 23: attempting to blackmail Clayton Eckert, a television celebrity, into a

754
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 23: romantic relationship, by fraud, trickery, and deception. To this end,

755
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 23: Laura Owens perjured herself in court hearings and a deposition,

756
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 23: as well as tampering with evidence, forging documents, and material misrepresentation,

757
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 23: deceiving the courts and the victim, Clayton eckered.

758
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: You might think the criminal indictments were Laura's main focus

759
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: during the summer of twenty twenty five, but she was

760
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: gearing up to enter another legal battle once she seemed

761
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: particularly interested in. It involved her ex boyfriend from nearly

762
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: ten years prior, a man who didn't live in the

763
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: same state. Her five year domestic violence restraining order against

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Speaker 1: Mike Marraccini was set to expire on July tenth, twenty

765
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Speaker 1: twenty five. This left everyone wondering would she renew it.

766
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Speaker 1: Here's Mike's wife, Danielle.

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Speaker 5: We were expecting it. We kept talking, preparing ourselves for

768
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: the inevitable She's gonna renew but I do deeply think

769
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 5: that we also were like, no way, does she have

770
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Speaker 5: the balls to do it. So while we were saying

771
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 5: one thing, I think subconsciously we felt like there's no chance.

772
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Speaker 5: And ultimately when we got to the day of and

773
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: nothing had hit the docket, we were like, we're free,

774
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: Like we're done. She's learned her lesson. And to get

775
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: the notification that afternoon that she had fun filed at

776
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: like end of day I think it was like four

777
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 5: thirty five, was devastating.

778
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: At the last minute, Laura Owens filed once again to

779
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: renew her domestic violence restraining order against Mike Marriccini. This

780
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: massive one hundred and one page filing centers primarily on

781
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: her June twenty twenty four trial involving Clayton Eckered, specifically

782
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: citing Mike's presence in the courtroom as a point of contention.

783
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: She alleged that Mike being in the court for Clayton's trial,

784
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: which again he'd been subpoenaed for, had violated her DVRO.

785
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: She also alleged that Mike had been harassing her using

786
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: the online pseudonym Honk my Meat. Mike denies any connection

787
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: to this account. He says he was busy parenting his

788
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: two daughters, but Laura believed the Honk my Meat account

789
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: was Mike anonymously harassing her. Laura argued that the extension

790
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: of the restraining order was a necessary measure to ensure

791
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: her ongoing safety and privacy. My first phone call with

792
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Mike was scheduled for the following day. During our call,

793
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: he wanted to talk about Laura's decision to renew Can

794
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: you give us your raw reaction to Laura Owens renewing

795
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: the domestic violence restraining order against you on July tenth.

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Speaker 18: I'm incredibly frustrated. I'm angry at not just Laura for

797
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 18: keeping this going for more than a decade, but really

798
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 18: upset with our legal system.

799
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: What are next steps for you?

800
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 18: I have to go to a trial to hopefully fight this,

801
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 18: and right now it's either going to be another five

802
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 18: year domestic violence for training order, it's going to be

803
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 18: a permanent domestic violence for training order. So I'm trying

804
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 18: to limit the damage and hopefully get it overturned, but

805
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 18: most likely it will either become one of those two items.

806
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to share about this,

807
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: maybe how it's affecting your family or you.

808
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 18: It's definitely affected my family. I mean the amount of time, energy,

809
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 18: financial aspect has been wasted over the last decade fighting

810
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 18: this person has been terrible. And I don't wish this

811
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 18: upon anybody, and I just want to thank everybody for

812
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 18: their support, especially over the last few years.

813
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 8: With this going public.

814
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: When Mike got the news about the renewal, you can

815
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: hear in his voice how defeated he was. Fighting this

816
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: again could cost tens of thousands of dollars.

817
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 8: I had been talking to certain attorneys beforehand and they

818
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 8: were kind of rattling off pricing to me, and they're like, well,

819
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 8: it could be anywhere from twenty five to fifty and then

820
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 8: if you go to trial, it's another fifty to seventy five.

821
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 8: And so I just sat and thought to myself, like,

822
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 8: do I want to do this again?

823
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: For Mike, that would mean dipping into his life savings,

824
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: money that could be used for his daughter's futures. Mike's

825
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: wife Didaniel Sai that at first he didn't want to

826
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: fight this again.

827
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: When he got off the phone about fighting it and

828
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 5: the legal fees that we would incur, and he goes,

829
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 5: I can't do this, Danielle. I can't take another financial

830
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 5: hit like this, particularly because he is our sole provider

831
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: at this point. We aren't just spending money like it

832
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. And he's like, I can't do it, and

833
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 5: I said, you have to do it. We have to

834
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 5: this time, and he was like, you're right, laying down

835
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: has done nothing. I cannot go through this again, like

836
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 5: I can't put my family through this again.

837
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: And then Mike got a phone call from Omar Serrato.

838
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: He's a family law attorney in California and a contact

839
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: creator known as the Tilted Lawyer on YouTube. For the

840
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: past couple of years, Omar has been doing legal comment

841
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: and terry on Laura Owens's case.

842
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 8: I remember I got a phone call from Omar, and

843
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 8: I had asked him a couple of times, like would

844
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 8: you represent me. I'm going to spend forty thousand dollars

845
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 8: just trying to catch somebody up on this case, like

846
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 8: it would be really beneficial if I was able to

847
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 8: just use you. I'm pessimistic already. I'm assuming I'm going

848
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: to lose, but I don't want to spend all of

849
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 8: the money up front to lose. I'd rather have somebody

850
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 8: that's in my corner that has like an idea of

851
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 8: Laura in what she's tried to pull.

852
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: At first, Omar said he appreciated Mike's honesty, but that

853
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: he just wasn't going to be able to do it.

854
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: But a few days later, Omar changed his mind.

855
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 8: He's like, listen, I'll do it. Just raise a gofund me.

856
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 8: Whatever is raised from the GoFundMe will help out dramatically,

857
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: and I will do this. And on top of that,

858
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 8: I'll add Rachel Warrez. I think she wants to be

859
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 8: in on this as well.

860
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: Rachel Warrez is an attorney in California. She's also one

861
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: of the judges on the hit TV court program Hot Bench.

862
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Like Omar, Rachel had followed the Laura Owen's case closely.

863
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 8: I was so happy because both of these people were informed,

864
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: educated and were true family law attorneys with tons of

865
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 8: experience in this matter. So I just felt like the

866
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 8: cards were with me this time.

867
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Speaker 1: Mike finally had the legal support he needed to give

868
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: him a real fighting chance.

869
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Speaker 4: Here's Rachel Warrez with.

870
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Speaker 24: Mike in particular. I really felt like he had been victimized,

871
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 24: and I had read a lot of the text messages

872
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 24: that came out in the Clayton case, and I really

873
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 24: felt as though he had been a victim of abuse,

874
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 24: that those text messages were very emotionally abusive, and this

875
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 24: was a victim that not only hadn't received help, but

876
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 24: had been flipped into the perpetrator somehow.

877
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: The legal was the first step for Mike to fight

878
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: the DVRO, but it wasn't going to be easy.

879
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 24: The standard for domestic violence in California has been broadened

880
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 24: to include things like disturbing the peace in terms of

881
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 24: a renewal. In particular, if you have a restraining order

882
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 24: against somebody and they've been violating it, that's grounds for

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Speaker 24: a renewal, and clearly that means you still need protection.

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Speaker 24: But the law in California has developed to say that

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Speaker 24: if someone is not violating the restraining order, that that

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00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 24: proves that it's working, and therefore that's another good reason

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Speaker 24: to renew it. So not only do you not need

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Speaker 24: evidence of a single violation, but actually the judge can

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Speaker 24: consider the lack of violations evidence that a restraining order

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Speaker 24: has been successful and should continue.

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Speaker 1: The trial for the DVRO renewal would be held in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Ahead of their hearing, Laura had some requests

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Speaker 1: for the court.

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Speaker 4: First, she filed a.

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Speaker 1: Motion to wave life testimony in favor of a written statement,

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Speaker 1: citing the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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Speaker 4: If this was.

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Speaker 1: Granted, she would avoid a cross examination at the trial. Then,

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Speaker 1: citing confidential medical data and threats from the Justice for

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Speaker 1: Clayton Group, she also requested the motion be sealed. The

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Speaker 1: filing disclosed several diagnoses, including autism spectrum disorder, epilepsy PTSD,

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00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: traumatic brain injury, panic and generalized anxiety disorders, and anorexia nervosa.

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Speaker 1: She also asked for a continuance on the hearing, meaning

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Speaker 1: she wanted more time due to her medical condition and

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Speaker 1: her father's recent hospitalization. The court ultimately denied all these motions.

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Speaker 1: Because she's the one who initiated the renewal, they wanted

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Speaker 1: her in person for the hearing, no exceptions. A two

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Speaker 1: day evidence hearing was set for October twenty first and

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Speaker 1: October twenty second in San Francisco. I got my plane

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Speaker 1: ticket and was ready to go cover the trial live.

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Speaker 1: But the weekend before I was supposed to leave, I

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Speaker 1: got some news. It's Saturday, October eighteenth, and I got

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Speaker 1: some interesting news last night. Something came across the docket.

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Speaker 1: It is a declaration of Laura Owens in support of

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Speaker 1: expedited request for reconsideration of motion to continue based on

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Speaker 1: urgent health concerns and request for ruling on the papers.

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Speaker 1: Now you might be thinking, what the heck does that mean. Well,

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Speaker 1: earlier Laura tried to get a continuance on this case

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Speaker 1: due to health concerns, and the judge denied that continuance request.

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Speaker 1: So that is why I booked my travel to San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: because I thought that this trial.

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Speaker 4: Would be happening.

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Speaker 1: Now this is an urgent health matter, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of what she said earlier. However, this just got filed yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The trial is supposed to happen on Tuesday, so we

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Speaker 1: won't know a ruling on this until at least Monday,

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Speaker 1: if the judge even looks at it.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the documents yet, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's in them, but I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: go one of two ways.

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Speaker 4: Laura's not showing up.

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Speaker 1: She also didn't request travel from the state of Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and we know that she has a criminal proceeding there,

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Speaker 1: and anytime she leaves the state, she has to have

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Speaker 1: permission from the state to do so. She never filed

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Speaker 1: this travel request, so in my mind, that's saying that

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Speaker 1: she never had any intention of going to this in

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Speaker 1: the first place. Now, again, one of two things could

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Speaker 1: happen here. The first one is that she's just considered

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Speaker 1: a no show and the DVRO renewal request gets dropped

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Speaker 1: right then and there, and that's it now. The other

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Speaker 1: one is that the judge could look over these papers

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Speaker 1: and grant the continuance, which means the trial will be

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Speaker 1: another time. Despite not knowing what would happen, I boarded

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Speaker 1: the plane to San Francisco. My flight landed the night

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Speaker 1: before the trial was set to begin. I got into

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Speaker 1: San Francisco at around six o'clock tonight and was trying

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Speaker 1: to see if anyone could mean up. But I took

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Speaker 1: myself to dinner. I came to Original Joe's because it

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00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: looked like, as San francis, good thing to do. Before

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Speaker 1: I arrived, Laura appeared to have been communicating with Mike's

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Speaker 1: attorney Omar. Those communications included a proposed stipulation from Laura

954
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: that's basically a list of demands. Here's what she'd asked for,

955
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: an extension of the DVRO for one year. Mike would

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Speaker 1: need to withdraw the filings he submitted in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five DVRO, and that the twenty eighteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty restraining orders would remain valid and on the record.

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Speaker 1: If Mike complied with these demands, among others, Laura would

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Speaker 1: agree to drop the DVRO after that additional year. Mike

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Speaker 1: was not willing to agree to that, but the night

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Speaker 1: before the hearing, Omar sent another email with the counter proposal.

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Speaker 1: He wrote, Let's keep this simple. We will agree to

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Speaker 1: mutually dismiss with prejudice, having both parties pay their own

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00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: fees and abide by all applicable laws. And while I

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Speaker 1: was sitting there at dinner, I got a text with

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Speaker 1: an update. So I'm heading over to talk to Mike

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00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: and Omar right now. But this, this is huge. I'd

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00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: never met Mike Marricini in person, but he and his

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: lawyer Omar invited me to the hotel room where they'd

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: been preparing for trial. They just heard the news that

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00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Laura might be dropping the restraining order. Content creator Megan

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Fox had been in the room with them recording when

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00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: they found out it came in an email from someone

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Speaker 1: in Laura's camp. Here's Mike and his lawyer Omar. The

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00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: moment they got the email, he responded to you, how.

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Speaker 18: We did and we'll fear my zone.

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00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 8: Owe off.

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00:56:59,360 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 7: It's over.

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00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you, thank you.

981
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 7: That's so fantastic that it's over.

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: The judge in San Francisco told Laura she had to

983
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: appear in person, but because of her felony indictments, she

984
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: couldn't leave the state of Arizona without permission, and she

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00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: hadn't filed that request yet. Everyone on Mike's team had

986
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: been waiting, holding their breath to see if Laura would

987
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: be showing up. Then this email came in saying she

988
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: accepted their terms and would be appearing virtually. It meant

989
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: that DVRO would finally be over. When I knocked on

990
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: the hotel room door, Mike greeted me with a hug.

991
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: He looked like he'd been crying. I got my phone

992
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: out to record and asked them to explain the email

993
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: they'd just received. Mike's lawyer, Omar jumped in, all right,

994
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm recording, so tell me what just happened.

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 25: The case is over.

996
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 26: Unofficially, we are going to show up in court tomorrow morning,

997
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 26: nine am, and we're going to tell the JUCH that

998
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 26: the parties have reached a global resolution or owns is

999
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 26: going to miss her renewal motion with prejudice. Both parts,

1000
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 26: paid her own costs, attorney fees, obey all federal and

1001
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 26: statele hause, and go about their merry way.

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00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 10: That's all we're going to do.

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: Mike left a few minutes later to get some rest.

1004
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 1: He still had to show up to court the next day.

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: After he left, I asked Omar the obvious question, do

1006
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: you think that this is going to stick at nine

1007
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: am tomorrow? Meaning is it really over? I've been following

1008
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: this case long enough to know that Laura has a

1009
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: habit of saying one thing and doing another. And these

1010
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: emails seemed kind of suspicious. They weren't from her lawyer.

1011
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: She didn't actually have a lawyer in this matter. She

1012
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: was representing herself. These emails came from someone named Matthew

1013
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: who was using a Gmail account. Now he is a

1014
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: lawyer and Omar spoke with him on the phone, but

1015
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: in this matter, he called himself a friend of the

1016
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: Owens family and was communicating with Omar on Laura Owens's

1017
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: behalf as a quote friend of the court. About twelve

1018
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: minutes later, Omar got an email directly from Laura Owens.

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00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Luckily I was still recording.

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00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 25: Hey, so I just got this email from Laura email

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 25: the department saying, Hi, I am looping in doctor Green

1022
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 25: and David Jingers, who like me, will be appearing via

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 25: Zoom tomorrow and also need a link.

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 8: Thank you Warmer's regards.

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 25: That's the email.

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00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: They knew Laura had plans to appear by Zoom the

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00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: following morning, but they were under the impression that it

1028
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: was just to accept the terms and drop the domestic

1029
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 1: violence restraining order against Mike.

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 4: The email was cryptic. Why did she want.

1031
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: Her doctor and her former attorney on the call if

1032
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: she was just going to drop the restraining order. It

1033
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: turns out the fight wasn't ending because Laura wasn't done

1034
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: with Mike Marriccini. For Mike, it felt like a power play.

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 8: This is what she gets off on, is having power,

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 8: manipulating people, manipulating the situation, utilizing the justice system. This

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 8: is her foreplay.

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