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Speaker 1: you ready for Brian brought us along with Dame Brugler
Speaker 1: from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman
Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hey Brian, nice to have
Speaker 1: you back, Dave. Thanks Kent Garrison executive producing the show today.
Speaker 1: As always, Hello guys. We appreciate everybody being Outdore. Oh
Speaker 1: what was that all about, Kim. It's draft week. But
Speaker 1: it's a little audio loop that was awesome. It's it's
Speaker 1: special effects. I want my whole life to sound welling
Speaker 1: out all the stops for this year's draft. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: just kind of keep it in check until we actually
Speaker 1: get drafted. Brian doesn't appreciate that, Frilly, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always appreciate your technical value, but in this case,
Speaker 1: just keep it straightforward. Let's keep it simple. All having
Speaker 1: a good day, just talk some draft uh uh my
Speaker 1: meeter for any kind of extra creec. It's not not
Speaker 1: very good right now. You're kind of on edge. I'm
Speaker 1: on edge because this is a very important time to
Speaker 1: h a lot of teams around the National Football League,
Speaker 1: a lot of personnel guys. You know, it's our livelihood.
Speaker 1: So get a little upset about things that kind of
Speaker 1: don't go the way they're supposed to go. But anyway,
Speaker 1: today Ken, not today, Kim uh again, Um, we are
Speaker 1: the draft show. I want to get into what we're
Speaker 1: starting to hear now, and especially that Dallas Cowboys took
Speaker 1: the opportunity yesterday to have their meeting with the media.
Speaker 1: U usually these meetings with the media, you don't get
Speaker 1: very much out of it, and I felt like that
Speaker 1: we did get a lot out of this yesterday. I
Speaker 1: agree they wanted us to think we got a lot.
Speaker 1: I think I think that Jerry Jones has a hard
Speaker 1: time lyne agree. Yeah, I really do. And I think
Speaker 1: that he know when he was talking about the first
Speaker 1: thing into you know, he's inclined to hang in there
Speaker 1: at four and make a pick. I believe him. I
Speaker 1: believe he's gonna stand. I think they've got two players,
Speaker 1: and you know, this draft to me for them is
Speaker 1: going to come down to two players to start the day.
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of with the Cowboys pick and
Speaker 1: with the trades that happened their draft for it all
Speaker 1: in his two names, that's right if that if one
Speaker 1: of that, their top player goes three, their second player
Speaker 1: goes four. And I think that's uh, maybe that's part
Speaker 1: of why I'm Dane's right. You can't one hundred percent
Speaker 1: trust anything that comes out of anybody's mouth right now,
Speaker 1: but anybody but these guys. But it just it was
Speaker 1: a more straightforward pressor than we're used to. And I
Speaker 1: think that's because they're picking fourth. You know, they don't
Speaker 1: have to sit here and say, well, we hope this happens,
Speaker 1: but you never know how this is gonna play out.
Speaker 1: Some stuff could go crazy. They're they're picking forth and
Speaker 1: they know who the two first two picks are, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna get what they want. One where
Speaker 1: I don't think this any secret. They're holding on Ramsey
Speaker 1: and they're holding on Elliott. That's certainly the impression that
Speaker 1: I got. I don't I don't get. I don't see
Speaker 1: they had every chance. It kind of reminded me of
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, like your girlfriend says she loves you, and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, yeah, they had every opportunity to say
Speaker 1: some really glowing stuff about Joey Bosa, and they really
Speaker 1: more about Joey Bosa or more about just the other
Speaker 1: guys that they That's what I got. I maybe so
Speaker 1: I feel like, specifically Steven there was a moment where
Speaker 1: he just had some very non committal it sounded thoughts
Speaker 1: or attitudes about you know, maybe not you know, obviously
Speaker 1: not Joey Bosa specifically, but but the pass rush and
Speaker 1: certain positions that are there at the top of the
Speaker 1: draft where if you're sitting there and you're able to
Speaker 1: read between the lines, you're like, well, okay, um, it
Speaker 1: certainly sounds like a two horse race for that pick.
Speaker 1: That's the impression that I got. Agree, And I think
Speaker 1: listening to Jerry's talk about how a running back paying
Speaker 1: him all that money at the fourth overall pick, how
Speaker 1: that was different than paying to Marco Murray, like he
Speaker 1: went out of his way to kind of touch on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he can't hide his love for Zeke. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so how will that factor into the war room. Is
Speaker 1: Jayala Ramsey the clear cut top guy if he's there,
Speaker 1: or will more voices become louder for Zeke? Even if
Speaker 1: I think the Forrest Buckner goes three, okay through the
Speaker 1: Chargers and in that scenario both Ramsey and Zeke will
Speaker 1: be on the board at four. Is Ramsey the Is
Speaker 1: he the clear cut number one? Or could there be
Speaker 1: some intrigue about which way they go? Maybe the more
Speaker 1: explo as a player on offense who probably helps them
Speaker 1: win more games at least right away, right or a
Speaker 1: Ramsey that is a playmaker in the secondary that they need,
Speaker 1: especially you know, look towards next year, in the year
Speaker 1: after that. And that's you. You said something similar this
Speaker 1: morning when I got to work, which is you know,
Speaker 1: like a welcome back kind of a thing. Yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of like wells you kind of a thing, welcome back, idiot.
Speaker 1: Ramsey and Elliott are both going to be there at
Speaker 1: for Mas, basically the gist of it um. And if
Speaker 1: that's the case, we know how I feel about Zeke,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that I could. I feel like
Speaker 1: Ramsey almost has to be the pick in that scenario,
Speaker 1: not just man and maybe not like you know, Dan
Speaker 1: just laid it out for you perfectly. Maybe not for
Speaker 1: what he brings in twenty sixteen, but he gives you
Speaker 1: a lot of stability in that secondary over the next
Speaker 1: five years if he's your guy. No, whether it's as
Speaker 1: a cornerback or a safety or what or all of
Speaker 1: the above, I don't care. Yeah, and we've kind of
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the running back him, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be shy about this, Dane. You've been very
Speaker 1: adamant about not selecting or running back though at four. Well, no, honestly,
Speaker 1: I more the case that I don't think this team
Speaker 1: would me personally, Zeke is five on my board. He's
Speaker 1: a top five player, so I would consider him absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I just my thinking all along as this team would
Speaker 1: not do it, considering all they've invested in the offensive line,
Speaker 1: in the fact that Darren McFadden you know, got well
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards last year. You know, they signed Alfred Morris,
Speaker 1: I feel like this team would not draft a running
Speaker 1: back that high. But special players are special players, and
Speaker 1: if when you're drafting at the fourth overall pick, you
Speaker 1: want to get one of the best players in this draft,
Speaker 1: and Zeke in my opinion, absolutely, I think we all
Speaker 1: agree it can be a special player, can you maybe?
Speaker 1: And I mean Johnny Manziel's in legal trouble, so I
Speaker 1: feel odd bringing that up and trying to type parallels here,
Speaker 1: but it kind of reminds me of that Manziel Martin
Speaker 1: debate in terms of what they were going to take Chazer, Well,
Speaker 1: he was gone though, but no. But I'm saying the
Speaker 1: card was going in Chaizer, sure, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it became now to make a call. It's
Speaker 1: not a clean parallel, but I'm sitting here. You know,
Speaker 1: Ramsey's He's not gonna sell as many jerseys as Elliott.
Speaker 1: He's not going to help you win as much this year.
Speaker 1: Elliott could potentially be a special difference making player. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's as much potential for bust with Elliott
Speaker 1: as there was with Johnny Manziel. But it just kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of if it really is between these
Speaker 1: two players. I think which way they go says a
Speaker 1: lot about what their hopes are. I think Ramsey's probably
Speaker 1: the better pick for the long term future of the franchise. Well,
Speaker 1: that's probably not fair either. But I'm just thinking, if
Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish things and win things with Romo
Speaker 1: in this two to three year window before he's gone,
Speaker 1: Elliot's your guy. If you're worried about the long term,
Speaker 1: you know, stability and production of your defense. Ramsey's probably
Speaker 1: the guy. So I think which one they would pick
Speaker 1: says a lot about how they're thinking about. Let's get
Speaker 1: into Jason Garrett. We have a clip Jason Garrett talking
Speaker 1: about Jalen Ramsey. Ji. Can you all talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Ramaty and just your evaluation of him with
Speaker 1: his position flexibility, whether you see four outside with him
Speaker 1: as a corner or a safety, just how you view him.
Speaker 1: He's a great football player. He's an impact player at
Speaker 1: the highest level. He's been a guy who's played both
Speaker 1: safety and corner. Seems to me he plays him equally well.
Speaker 1: He shows up on the tape, he leaps off the tape.
Speaker 1: I've got a chance to get to know him, spent
Speaker 1: some time with him in Indianapolis, spent some time with
Speaker 1: him here at Valley Ranch, went down and worked him
Speaker 1: out at Florida State. Highly endorsed by everybody at Florida State.
Speaker 1: He's a great football player. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: You can generate a ton of turnovers himself. As last
Speaker 1: year at Florida State, you all obviously had a big
Speaker 1: problem with that last year. Is that factor in at
Speaker 1: all as you evaluate for you know, bottom line is
Speaker 1: he didn't have any interceptions or whatever the case. Well,
Speaker 1: the ball matters and you want guys to make plays
Speaker 1: on the ball. Sometimes when you play corner, teams have
Speaker 1: a tendency to throw the ball away from you if
Speaker 1: you're a really good player. Deon Sanders ran into that
Speaker 1: a lot throughout his career. They didn't go at him
Speaker 1: very much, and typically Dion made those guys pay when
Speaker 1: they did go at him. And uh, you know so
Speaker 1: the number of times the defenses, excuse me, opposing offenses
Speaker 1: went at Jalen Ramsey is probably less than most corners.
Speaker 1: He's an impact player. He shows up for them as
Speaker 1: a cover guy. He covers in man to man, he
Speaker 1: covers in his own, he can rush h He's just
Speaker 1: one of those guys that jumps off the tape at
Speaker 1: you and positively impacts, you know what. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get accomplished on defense and throughout their football team. So
Speaker 1: he's a very talented guy and a really good football player.
Speaker 1: There you have it. I mean, he's he's looked about
Speaker 1: as close to glowing as Jess and Garrett gets. But
Speaker 1: he was talking about it and the question was asked
Speaker 1: about the ball skills. A lot of people have that
Speaker 1: question mark about him and he their evaluation was they
Speaker 1: don't go at it. Yeah, he's one of these guys
Speaker 1: that people don't throw the football at. You'd probably be
Speaker 1: and obviously there's gonna be exceptions. You'd probably be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to find, like a stud corner in college who's
Speaker 1: gonna have crazy pick numbers, because that's what college teams do.
Speaker 1: They avoid those guys. McKenzie Alexander zero sack or zero
Speaker 1: interceptions in his career at Clemson, same type of deal.
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, this is my point when
Speaker 1: we talk about Bosa and having only five sacks, you
Speaker 1: got to look past those numbers because they don't They're
Speaker 1: not indicative of the tape and the player. You know,
Speaker 1: just like zero interceptions for Ramsey this year does not
Speaker 1: tell the story of Ramsey, just like five sacks does
Speaker 1: not tell the story of Bosa. The box scores can
Speaker 1: get you out of loopy. I gotta trust the tape.
Speaker 1: And what kind of stood out for me was Coach
Speaker 1: Garrett saying that he's equally talented at both safety and corner.
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to once again ride defense and
Speaker 1: say we all feel like that he's a better safety
Speaker 1: that he is a corner. They're not even willing to
Speaker 1: peg Byron Jones and safety yet, so I'm sure they
Speaker 1: don't want to pack a guy that they haven't even
Speaker 1: drafted at one position. So, but they're gonna start him
Speaker 1: at corner. Yeah, right, And so that that's to me,
Speaker 1: that's you know, there's they're trying to see. Am I
Speaker 1: crazy if I don't think that makes sense? Because honestly,
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, well crazy is not just going
Speaker 1: to put him in safety. Well, I I like him
Speaker 1: better at safety from having watched his tape, But you
Speaker 1: just look at the makeup of this depth chart. I
Speaker 1: think there's a far better chance that he can be
Speaker 1: better than Bury Church or J. J. Wilcoxon. There's a
Speaker 1: chance that he's gonna be a sea that might happen
Speaker 1: a significant improvement over Brandon carror Mo Claiborn I'm I'm
Speaker 1: seating a starting spot the Scandrick. Is he really gonna
Speaker 1: beat out car Clayborne? Who are you know, four year
Speaker 1: veterans in this league and not great, don't tweet at me,
Speaker 1: but capable. I think I think they're gonna I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna play I think they're gonna play him the
Speaker 1: same way they did Byron Jones. I think you're right,
Speaker 1: I think, and the fact that the fact that Scandrick
Speaker 1: will will probably be protected throughout Ota Mini camps into
Speaker 1: training camp does open up a spot, because yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't expect him to do anything till August. We probably
Speaker 1: feel like that that Orlando Scandrick is going to be
Speaker 1: the starter at left corner. And what they're gonna do is, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna let you rehab at your pace,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna throw that rookie in there and let
Speaker 1: him go. I just can't believe that it's a foregone
Speaker 1: and it's not. I know it's not, but it's crazy
Speaker 1: to think that it might be a foregone conclusion that'll
Speaker 1: even be there. I mean, we've had we've been thinking
Speaker 1: he could wind up on the Chargers for four months
Speaker 1: now and the thought that's suddenly there. We didn't think
Speaker 1: the Tunsa was gonna be there and then and Buttner
Speaker 1: has not been a late rise to the Chargers. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been winning in the last three weeks. It's been
Speaker 1: more of a talk about him. But there's no way
Speaker 1: in hell that you thought Tunsa was gonna be there. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not before the trade. One of the quarterbacks was gonna go.
Speaker 1: The second quarterback wasn't gonna go. That we didn't know
Speaker 1: until about two weeks ago, right, Yeah. So, I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's why this draft has changed. It's wonky man.
Speaker 1: And if you're drafting Ramsey, though, can you draft him
Speaker 1: without feeling great with him as a corner? I mean,
Speaker 1: can you draft him at that high when you don't
Speaker 1: feel great about him as a corner? You feel great
Speaker 1: about him as up saying we don't feel great about
Speaker 1: him as a quorn because we in that room, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they you know, you think, do you think they feel
Speaker 1: great about him as a corner? I think they do great,
Speaker 1: not just good. I think they do feel great. I
Speaker 1: think they feel a lot better at corner. Didn't didn't
Speaker 1: we do? I agree there, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be sold on him as a true corner,
Speaker 1: and maybe they are, and I think Jason Garrett touched
Speaker 1: on that workout. I think that, yeah, seeing him in person,
Speaker 1: that athleticism at that size, the ball skills, I think
Speaker 1: that probably sold him. But just on the tape, it's
Speaker 1: hard to fall in love with him as strictly a corner.
Speaker 1: I agree with him as a player, as a defensive back,
Speaker 1: as a playmaker, but strictly as a corner, I find
Speaker 1: it hard to love him. It reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of Byron Jones, which I mean, maybe they do view
Speaker 1: him as like Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson lockdown in
Speaker 1: one half of the field, true corner, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just think they have to
Speaker 1: feel amazing that he's going to bring athleticism and playmaking
Speaker 1: skills to a variety of different spots. I'm one hundred
Speaker 1: percent with you. I think he's a dime nickel rover
Speaker 1: type of guy like Byron was right, and then they'll
Speaker 1: figure it out later. And I think that they're just
Speaker 1: confident that he can do what it is they need
Speaker 1: him to do, regardless of where where that future is
Speaker 1: one of the scouts around the league that I really
Speaker 1: really trust. And I'm not named any names, but my
Speaker 1: personal favorite of scouts sent me some information and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Cowboys needs defensive end, quarterback, defensive tackle, corner,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back, tight end's order, defensive end, quarterback,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and now cornerback. I said, back at number two,
Speaker 1: corner back at number four, with running back being number seven.
Speaker 1: How do how does that? How does that? You know?
Speaker 1: That's how another team looks at the Cowboys. Yeah, another team,
Speaker 1: another another team in this league. But now we're here,
Speaker 1: we are talking about potentially taking a cornerback and then
Speaker 1: taking a running back. I think when you're talking about
Speaker 1: when you're picking top ten, it's not about need, it's
Speaker 1: about talent. It's about talent, and you gotta get your
Speaker 1: top talent on the You're right, these guys have done
Speaker 1: all the work for how many months, and they I
Speaker 1: think they've come up with two players at the top
Speaker 1: that are the most talented. Yea Ramsey and Zeke that
Speaker 1: fit not only this roster, but the culture fit what
Speaker 1: they want and a player. And so I think both
Speaker 1: fit and again the needs could both fit on this
Speaker 1: team absolutely are the biggest or either the biggest need
Speaker 1: right now. No, Stephen Jones said that then to your dang,
Speaker 1: he said, the question was asked about need or best
Speaker 1: player at four, and he said, I think it's the
Speaker 1: best player. At the end of the day. You get
Speaker 1: a chance when you're picking this high to get a
Speaker 1: player who makes a difference for a long period of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously they're not looking at their needs with this fourth pick.
Speaker 1: I think talent on the roster. Yeah, and see that's
Speaker 1: what that's what we've tried to think with the with
Speaker 1: the draft show. You know, we've tried to talk about
Speaker 1: taking the best available player. Don't take because don't take
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa because you have a needed defensive end. Even
Speaker 1: though even though another highly respected team in my mind,
Speaker 1: thinks that Cowboys need a defensive end at one, don't
Speaker 1: at some point, don't you think that that's some hot
Speaker 1: air though? And I think it was it was Garrett
Speaker 1: who said yesterday in the press conference too, He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes or maybe it was Steven he said,
Speaker 1: sometimes need creeps in Garrett, if guys are close, you know,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go with the guy that you need.
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that they're they really don't
Speaker 1: even seem like bossas in play, I think says to
Speaker 1: me how they feel about his talent level. Because honestly,
Speaker 1: if it was close, I think you would have to
Speaker 1: go at the end. And that's why at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think you need to go or
Speaker 1: should go with Ramsey because he is the bigger need
Speaker 1: long term, and you know, you can't judge a draft
Speaker 1: accurately until three or four years down the line, anyway,
Speaker 1: do you think do you think that the fact is
Speaker 1: they see Joey Bosa as a left defensive end only
Speaker 1: has something to do, And the fact that they've got
Speaker 1: they've got the Marcus Lawrence left defensive end, they don't
Speaker 1: want to move him. I don't know. Maybe that's how
Speaker 1: they see him. To me, Marcus Lawrence is better on
Speaker 1: the right side anyways, in my opinion, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Bosa can play on either side anyway. I think I
Speaker 1: think that's some revisionist history anyway, because the narrative when
Speaker 1: they traded up to get to Marcus Lawrence was that
Speaker 1: he was the last guy who could play right end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the last guy in the draft that they thought could
Speaker 1: really make an impact it right end. So to say
Speaker 1: he's a left end he can't move, now, that just
Speaker 1: sounds like crap to me. Put on your draft room
Speaker 1: hats in there and tell me why that Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: is not in one of the top three the talked
Speaker 1: about here is one of the top three guys or
Speaker 1: top or the top two guys. Well, and I was
Speaker 1: about to say, maybe if the Cowboys are picking five,
Speaker 1: maybe he is in the conversation, you know, if we're
Speaker 1: talking about the top three guys. But right now we're
Speaker 1: only talking about two guys, because that's all that matters,
Speaker 1: right quarterbacks going one two, All that matters the top
Speaker 1: two guys. And it seems like Randy, they're picking that Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Maybe Bossa isn't that conversation. You know, maybe he is
Speaker 1: that next guy. You know, it's it's hard to know
Speaker 1: what their board looks like. You know, we're just kind
Speaker 1: of it's guests work here for us. But I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Bosa could be in that conversation if we are,
Speaker 1: if Cowboys are picking up five or six. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that holds Bosa's back is probably I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a talented guy. Yeah, doing my best to try
Speaker 1: to defend him, because I think the overreaction against him
Speaker 1: has been out of control for a while now. But
Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about a guy at four,
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of people's argument is you want
Speaker 1: the TWI you want well not just special, but you
Speaker 1: want the upside too. I mean, the thing that made
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory so intriguing is like, well, it's a risk,
Speaker 1: but he could turn into the DeMarcus ware type freak.
Speaker 1: And I have yet to find anybody who really thinks
Speaker 1: that Joey Bosa has that type of upside. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that think he's a great player, could
Speaker 1: be productive eddy for a long time. Sure, I've yet
Speaker 1: to hear somebody who really thinks he's gonna blossom into
Speaker 1: this monster and that is what you want when you're
Speaker 1: talking about fourth overall, And I think that's probably I
Speaker 1: don't think that's too good opinion right there. Okay, we're
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Speaker 1: So I think ed k Hill for this, we'll go
Speaker 1: to a little twitter on David Hellman, what do you
Speaker 1: got today? Shout out ed K Hill. We sort of
Speaker 1: talk touched on this before we went to break, but
Speaker 1: Michael says specifically for Danny says, I want to hear
Speaker 1: Dane fight for Bosa at four. Is he willing to
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? I mean I think he's in that conversation. Again,
Speaker 1: you look at my top players in this draft, and
Speaker 1: again it's generic. You know, it's not Cowboys specific for
Speaker 1: my board. But if I'm looking at Cowboys specific board,
Speaker 1: Bosa would be in my top three players. Another NFL team, again,
Speaker 1: did I trust when it has a very successful record
Speaker 1: in this league sent me said Dallas's need defensive end.
Speaker 1: That's how they view the Cowboys. So you could fight
Speaker 1: for Bosa here, right. And you know when Helman mentioned
Speaker 1: it about how he doesn't have that huge upside, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to chase upside. Give me a player
Speaker 1: that I know what i'm getting. And with Bosa at
Speaker 1: only twenty years old, the way he can use his hands,
Speaker 1: that technique, that leverage, and we talk about people tell
Speaker 1: me that he's not a great athlete. He tested as
Speaker 1: a better athlete than Noah Spence did, right, So it
Speaker 1: don't tell him he's not a good athlete. So I understand.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree that he doesn't have that high upside
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, growing into this JJ Watt
Speaker 1: type of player that's not who he is. Who he
Speaker 1: is right now. You know he's going to get better,
Speaker 1: but he's not doesn't have this huge ceiling. I think
Speaker 1: he can be an eight to ten sack a year
Speaker 1: guy and be a player that helps take, you know,
Speaker 1: some attention off your other players on your defensive line,
Speaker 1: helps your secondary as well. So there are some teams
Speaker 1: picking in the six to eight range that are going
Speaker 1: to be very, very happy if Bosa falls past top five.
Speaker 1: Bosa has been a favorite to go here for three months.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't where, I mean, where do you? I
Speaker 1: keep seeing him to Baltimore and I just I don't
Speaker 1: see him as a three to four player that Baltimore's
Speaker 1: need more of a a four three team this year. Actually,
Speaker 1: they're transitioning and it's going to be interesting because you
Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville at five, right they they drafted uh
Speaker 1: Dante Valer last year. Yeah, he's coming off a cl injury.
Speaker 1: You don't know where he's going to be. I think
Speaker 1: Joey Bose will be awfully enticing to them. Baltimore definitely possibility,
Speaker 1: But if Tounsil is still available, I think tounsil makes
Speaker 1: more sense for Baltimore the Browns and number eight. I
Speaker 1: think they could end up getting a steal at Bosa there,
Speaker 1: and then I think absolute floor for Bosa will follow
Speaker 1: the nine at Tampa Bay. Yeah, and then again this
Speaker 1: Dave not to make you feel bad, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make you feel good here. This team feels like though
Speaker 1: that they could. Baltimore could use an outside lineback. I've
Speaker 1: seen him pick there a lot. They and they've lost
Speaker 1: up shot a free agency Sugs Dumerville are both signed
Speaker 1: through twenty seventeen, but both are on the bold, both
Speaker 1: on the decline, need to get younger there. So you know,
Speaker 1: Bosa Spence was a guy that was mentioned there. If
Speaker 1: you just care at Baltimore's needs outside linebacker, cornerback and
Speaker 1: inside linebacker there. So yeah, I mean that that could
Speaker 1: be a possibility, but they might. Deem Peas is their
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, likes to do a lot of different things
Speaker 1: with his with his scheme. Pistol. Pete's given me a
Speaker 1: shout out to the Senior Bowl. He says we haven't
Speaker 1: talked enough about Kevin Hogan and he wants you guys
Speaker 1: to break him down. Kind of what you think about him,
Speaker 1: He says he sees a lot of Tony Romo in him.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see Tony, but I see a guy
Speaker 1: with great intangibles. Uh he's a great leader, a great person.
Speaker 1: I think that'll be offel appealing to a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in this league. I think is enough arm strength.
Speaker 1: He's built well for the NFL. My biggest issue is
Speaker 1: the delivery. It's not pretty, and then his accuracy. What
Speaker 1: he does it the way I could I compare it.
Speaker 1: I think it's like he's throwing darts. He like aims
Speaker 1: it and like pushes the ball. You know he doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's not a just a clean motion in his delivery.
Speaker 1: He looks to aim the ball. It's almost like he's
Speaker 1: throwing darts. And I think that affects His accuracy is
Speaker 1: not only uh, you know, downfield, but even on some
Speaker 1: short and intermediate passes as well. So Hogan to me
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle sounds I think he can be
Speaker 1: a number two in this league for a long He's
Speaker 1: a sprayer. Yeah, the ball goes all over the place,
Speaker 1: Danes right though, when you watch him throw it down
Speaker 1: the field, you swear he's throwing the javelin. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looked like he's at the PAC ten, the Pac twelve
Speaker 1: Championship at Berkeley and he's trying to throw the javelin
Speaker 1: to get his team some points. Yeah, but I totally
Speaker 1: agree with I mean, I think that there's things I
Speaker 1: don't see a guy with great arm talent myself now.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that if the guy wants
Speaker 1: to compare him to Romo, maybe Tony's arm talent is
Speaker 1: gotten far since the back and stuff like that has
Speaker 1: gotten far worse. But yeah, with Hogan, to me again,
Speaker 1: I see the guy that sprays it, and the harder
Speaker 1: he throws the ball, the harder it is for him
Speaker 1: to control it. Sure, and that's that's a big issue.
Speaker 1: And you know there's things he does underneath the touch
Speaker 1: and stuff for screens. I think he's extremely smart. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that just because he goes to Stanford,
Speaker 1: because there are things you watch him. He will protect
Speaker 1: the football, his team know he knows how to get
Speaker 1: his team in and out a good situation. They're a
Speaker 1: physical team. He's got a physical mentality about himself. He's
Speaker 1: a tough guy. But the thing about it is when
Speaker 1: you spray the ball, You're gonna have some problems. This
Speaker 1: guy's name is Zeke at four, so he wants to
Speaker 1: know about late round defensive ends. We've talked about plenty,
Speaker 1: but basically the gist of his question is how far
Speaker 1: down can you go in this draft and draft a
Speaker 1: defensive end who can play as a rotational guy as
Speaker 1: a rookie. We play a role as a rookie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually I like kind of the defensive ends in
Speaker 1: the in the early day three range. You know, I
Speaker 1: think we're talking about the Matt ju Dons, the James Cowser,
Speaker 1: the Tyron Holmes, Jason Fanika's daddy Nicholas. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you don't so much, but the I just was
Speaker 1: named guy of a point in the draft, you know, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth round. I mean that's the type of guy you
Speaker 1: take a chance on, guy that can try and see right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go probably third, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: think at different points, third, fourth, fifth round, right, there
Speaker 1: there will be options. I mean, Ronald Blair to me,
Speaker 1: we both like him a lot. I think of third round,
Speaker 1: third round for about him, second round, right, but if
Speaker 1: he's still there in the fourth, yeah, up, see The
Speaker 1: thing about it is Dallas has got an early pick
Speaker 1: at one oh one, and okay, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if one of your questions is about Dallas getting back
Speaker 1: up in there and drafting somebody's alf says, so damn
Speaker 1: smart all the time. Well, I'm running out of days
Speaker 1: here to be smart. But yeah, but but if you
Speaker 1: that pick at one oh one starts the fourth day
Speaker 1: or the fourth day, the third day of the draft,
Speaker 1: it's in the fourth round, it's up there early Browns.
Speaker 1: Browns I think got the first two pick, and then
Speaker 1: and then Dallas is on the clock. That is gonna
Speaker 1: be a premium pick, because what's gonna happen. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be some third round guys. Maybe Ronald Alston does slide
Speaker 1: through the draft. Maybe somebody doesn't like Apps State and
Speaker 1: they don't like him beating up on Clemson and North
Speaker 1: Carolina State and they let him there. That could be
Speaker 1: a pick where I think if Dallas does not get
Speaker 1: a guy, say say they don't they they're not gonna
Speaker 1: draft Bosa, Well they don't take one at thirty four
Speaker 1: or at sixty seven. One on one, one thirty five
Speaker 1: could be two in that fourth round. They could get
Speaker 1: two defensive ends in that because he just named you
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, Okay, and it players perfectly into it.
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about trading back into the first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: potentially for a quarterback. Here we go. Wayne wants to
Speaker 1: know what can sixty seven and one on one, dude,
Speaker 1: to get you back into the second? Is that even doable?
Speaker 1: Is that impossible? Yeah? And I was thinking more like,
Speaker 1: try to get I'm trying to get to We've talked
Speaker 1: about really the Jets was it was it was it
Speaker 1: two and a four kind of a thing. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get you back in. I'm looking at teams
Speaker 1: that would trade with you because I think I think
Speaker 1: I think Houston and Minnesota, Cincinnati stewers, they're gonna hang
Speaker 1: in there and make their picks. That's where all those
Speaker 1: wide receivers they're not coming. They're not coming out of there, right,
Speaker 1: They're just not coming out of there. They got wide
Speaker 1: receivers on the brain. Kansas City at twenty eight to
Speaker 1: a team you need to keep an eye on and
Speaker 1: if you're willing now now, I just I just told
Speaker 1: you the virtues of one on one and how portant
Speaker 1: of a pick that might be what you have to do.
Speaker 1: That if you hit him with one on one and
Speaker 1: you say this is this is what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: to you, that could get you to their spot from
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty eight though that's well that's one
Speaker 1: on one and thirty four just they get to keep
Speaker 1: sixty seven though, you get to keep sixty seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they're coming back. You're gonna give him one on one,
Speaker 1: which we think is a premium pick because well, you know,
Speaker 1: way you all of a sudden you want to get
Speaker 1: back in. You want to get that quarterback, you want
Speaker 1: to get that guy or whoever you want to get
Speaker 1: to get that fifth year that might be in the spot.
Speaker 1: Kansas John Dorsey Andy Reid a little bit more comfortable
Speaker 1: about moving back, and Dorsey being a former Scout, Scout's
Speaker 1: love picks. I tell you that all the time. One
Speaker 1: on one. He might look at that and say, you know,
Speaker 1: because Dana and I did a radio show the other
Speaker 1: day and Dana and I did a trade and I
Speaker 1: wanted I wanted your pick. It was I forgot who
Speaker 1: we were were doing, but I it was the Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets. I was the Jets. And you were the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I wanted your one on one. I wanted
Speaker 1: that pick, and we ended up switching in the fourth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we fly. Yeah exactly. But let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: when Day one is over, do you think that Cowboys
Speaker 1: will still have both of their Day two picks? I
Speaker 1: think so. I'll go at the odds and I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that Jerry Joe. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: want a quarterback, and they're gonna want the fifth year.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing somebody at the bottom of the board. They're
Speaker 1: gonna try and get ahead of that. That Denver I think.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that the team's at the bottom
Speaker 1: of that board. I think green baked Teddy Thompson will
Speaker 1: dive out of there in a heartbeat. You know he'll
Speaker 1: Teddy will back up. The better question is which quarterback? Well, Okay,
Speaker 1: they brought in seven. I think that three of them
Speaker 1: potentially could be gone, depending on what you like. I
Speaker 1: like Lynch a lot more than other people in this world.
Speaker 1: So if he's gone, then you're looking at the Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the guys they brought in. Connor Cook,
Speaker 1: Connor Cook, Hackenburg. I think those are the two names
Speaker 1: you have to look at, and that fifth year option
Speaker 1: will be valuable. I mean, it's always valued what happen
Speaker 1: to Denver with it? But with here, oh yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and especially here with Romo, who knows how much longer
Speaker 1: he has. I am torn between how much I like
Speaker 1: the idea of getting the option on that kid verse
Speaker 1: how much I don't like any of the possibilities that
Speaker 1: will be there. I think that's the bigger, bigger question,
Speaker 1: is is it worth it? Wait a minute, we just
Speaker 1: done it? Did a tweet? Asked answer to tweet that
Speaker 1: one on one might be our defensive end, Dan was, Tony,
Speaker 1: you might get Blair. You might steal one there. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'd rather have Blair at one on
Speaker 1: one than a fifth year Christian Hackenburg at thirty one
Speaker 1: or cook. You don't want to cook. But if you
Speaker 1: can get him at thirty four, is it worth having
Speaker 1: that fifth year option or is it worth having a Ronald?
Speaker 1: But that's that's a reach, And I get it's a
Speaker 1: reach out of necessity and it's you know, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: but it's still a reach in my opinion. If he's
Speaker 1: their fourth quarterback on their boards, their reach they have
Speaker 1: a first round grade on they won't think it's a reach.
Speaker 1: Then team that does it never does. I think you
Speaker 1: just don't like Connor. Don't either one of them. I
Speaker 1: think they're bad. I don't think they're good. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you can't complete sixty percent in college, you're probably not.
Speaker 1: We all have our opinions on the guy. Again, they're
Speaker 1: the one state we're just doing that draft. They're gonna, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna sit down and be high five in and
Speaker 1: shake it. Jerry got it. We got our guy, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I think you made a mistake. I
Speaker 1: think both of those guys, both Cook and Hackerberg, neither
Speaker 1: one completed over fifty any of their scenes. I think
Speaker 1: that agree with that. I mean, forget all everything else
Speaker 1: that stat alone. So they trade back in and it's Cook,
Speaker 1: You're going on the slam bus right, absolutely, I will
Speaker 1: go hard on that. I sitting right there. I think
Speaker 1: Cook can be a starter in this league. I just
Speaker 1: think he's a low end starter. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna make anyone around him better. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to elevate the team. I think
Speaker 1: he can start that's it. Would you rather have Connor
Speaker 1: Cook and the fifth year and lose a pick? Or
Speaker 1: would you rather have Dak Prescott at sixty seven and
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair at one on one? See now he's not
Speaker 1: really high on Dak Prescott. Insert quarterback of your choice.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I think you have Cook over flip Scott?
Speaker 1: Am I right, yeah, I flip flop him? Game all right?
Speaker 1: If I you can have Ronald Blair and a quarterback
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair and Jacoby Brissette. Ronald Blair and Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: here too. By the way, I want whatever is the
Speaker 1: one that gives me more players, more picks. I don't
Speaker 1: have to get rid of stuff for bad quarterbacks. What
Speaker 1: defensive end would you not want at one on one?
Speaker 1: Would I not want them to draft? Yeah? Uh KAFUSI Uh?
Speaker 1: Who else? I wouldn't want Nicholas all two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds of them? Okay, um, yeah, that's too
Speaker 1: that's too light. We have a two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: five pound end. I don't talk about these quarterbacks. I'd
Speaker 1: take him there, Holmes. I've got a fourth fifth on him,
Speaker 1: so I'd consider him there. Okay, all right. I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's that's talk about sweet spot. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's valuable pick, valuable property. So I could just
Speaker 1: see them, I could see them diving back into it
Speaker 1: makes it makes a lot of sense. I just don't
Speaker 1: like the options that are there for Like, if they
Speaker 1: did that, it won't happen. But if Paxton Lynch was
Speaker 1: to fall that far, Yeah, and they were to do that,
Speaker 1: I would I would stand up and I would applaud
Speaker 1: and I'd say, yeah, you paid a price, but you
Speaker 1: did what you had to do. Wild Card. I mean,
Speaker 1: would would we really be surprised if he's on the board,
Speaker 1: say at twenty seven, I would be pretty surprised, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because I know how this happens. Quarterbacks Christian Hackenberg
Speaker 1: going in the first round, Teddy Bridgewater fell to what Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying, but I would
Speaker 1: be pretty stunned. I mean, Daniel Jeremiah mocked the guy
Speaker 1: to the Saints. Okay, would you be surprised if Lynch
Speaker 1: was on the board and Cook was on the board
Speaker 1: they took Cook, if they took Connor Cook over Packs
Speaker 1: and Less, I'd be kind of surprised. Yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would be surprised. Some teams probably think that way. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm NFL ready. I think cooks them was NFL ready
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class? All right, NFL ready, most NFL
Speaker 1: already quarterback in his class that has a bad completion
Speaker 1: percentage by college standards. Yeah, I'm not saying anything about
Speaker 1: how good he is, but I think in terms of
Speaker 1: being it right already, if you're not goodwin starter packs,
Speaker 1: well yeah, he could be a lowin starter in this league.
Speaker 1: But again, I know he can be Matt Castle something
Speaker 1: like that, right, awesoctly awesome. I think that's what you're
Speaker 1: getting with the player like that. I thought I think
Speaker 1: he's a you know, Ryan Tannehill without the athleticis Do
Speaker 1: we have time for one more quick? Like we kind
Speaker 1: of went off there, Let's let's do this. We gotta
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back and and and
Speaker 1: and if it's you have a really good one, I'm
Speaker 1: interested in to see what y'all are gonna say. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll have another discussion. We'll take one more question, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break first and then we'll come back.
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Speaker 1: all right, you had one question, Yeah, just I thought
Speaker 1: it was a good question from Martin. We've talked a
Speaker 1: lot before about you know, nobody expected Laramie Tounsel to
Speaker 1: fall this far and does that and pushed for trades,
Speaker 1: particularly with the Cowboys. What about Jalen Ramsey. For three
Speaker 1: months we've been talking about how he might be the
Speaker 1: best player in the draft, best defender in the draft
Speaker 1: if he's sitting there at four. Because the Chargers pass
Speaker 1: on him. Is there's somebody there that just feels like
Speaker 1: that's a move that they need to make. I'm off
Speaker 1: the he actually he specifically mentioned the Ravens. I know
Speaker 1: that they need defensive backs, but I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: buy that that's something Ozzie Knewsom would do. What I could?
Speaker 1: I give you a little Ozzie knew Some history. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: how about this, I'll give you a little awesome. And
Speaker 1: we're trying to trade up, right if we're all anybody
Speaker 1: really in striking distance? Right, Ozzie knew Some's history is
Speaker 1: he's spend the Germans since nineteen ninety six. He is
Speaker 1: traded up. He's traded up eighteen times as he's traded
Speaker 1: down fourteen times. A couple of history, first round trade up, right,
Speaker 1: He's made thirty two trades in his career, is what
Speaker 1: he's done. And he's going up for he's going up.
Speaker 1: He's going up. Excuse me, going down four teen times
Speaker 1: and going up eighteen times. So the team that I
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I been talking about the Ravens about that.
Speaker 1: The Charger, the number three have been trying to sell
Speaker 1: that pick, and I think they feel good about Buckner,
Speaker 1: and they feel good about a lot of these guys,
Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do is get Jacksonville at five,
Speaker 1: to jump over Dallas to number three to get Jalen Ramsey. Right.
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville is in a spot where, you know,
Speaker 1: they invested a lot in Fowler, so you know BOTHA.
Speaker 1: I think he's possibility, but maybe they don't want to
Speaker 1: go in that direction. Miles Jack they love, but can
Speaker 1: you take a chance on him with a knee. So
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in a tough situation. Jalen Ramsey could be
Speaker 1: that playmaker in the secondary that they want. Chargers are
Speaker 1: trying to entice them to trade up to number three
Speaker 1: and get him. It's possible. I'm sitting here thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: can I just say real quick, yeah, Jacksonville team needs
Speaker 1: d They lost, they lost Branch and Clemens. They value
Speaker 1: pass rushers and made it clear they want to add
Speaker 1: another edge play. They did the ledge player, went after
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon to take the pressure off Fowler. Okay, then
Speaker 1: they're talking about Corner. They got a Mukama, he's under
Speaker 1: a one year contract. You need a player for the future. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Colvin got suspended four games. So they're talking
Speaker 1: about Ramsey or Apple Jacksonville's need d E DC cornerback
Speaker 1: and linebacker. I just wonder if we've seen him mocked
Speaker 1: to a cornerback so much, um Tampa Bay. Maybe if
Speaker 1: that were to happen, if, I mean, they'd have to
Speaker 1: see him as a corner probably, But people love Jason Light.
Speaker 1: Trading up it back, man, we think about possible, we try.
Speaker 1: We're talking about trading up to four, trading up to three.
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I'm talking about trading up to four. If
Speaker 1: Ramsey falls to the Cowboys, if if the if the
Speaker 1: Chargers really do you want Zeke? But to see I
Speaker 1: worry about going back. I'm not doing it with any
Speaker 1: goal in mind. It's it's not for Zeke. I'm just
Speaker 1: doing it because the Cowboys aren't in love with this
Speaker 1: spot and somebody that loves Ramsey makes a run at it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the question. Jason Light
Speaker 1: has been a general general manager for I think you'd
Speaker 1: really have to knock Jerry's socks off. I mean, he
Speaker 1: said yesterday that it's more likely than not they're gonna
Speaker 1: stand in and make the pick. Two years ago, Buffalo
Speaker 1: gave up a first round or next year exactly, I
Speaker 1: mean a fourth round. And that was only for a
Speaker 1: short jump. I mean what it was probably nine to four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so that's bucks to Dallas if you don't If
Speaker 1: they made me that deal and I could get like
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson at nine, the thing is is we won't know.
Speaker 1: I know. So if you're sitting there at four, you're
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay. They want Ramsey. They're offering next year's
Speaker 1: one plus a fourth rounder. This year. You're making that deal.
Speaker 1: I think so because Tampa. You feel like Tampa might
Speaker 1: be trash. Huh. I don't think they're gonna Actually, I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be I think saying, I mean,
Speaker 1: you'd make the deal thinking that make well, okay, I
Speaker 1: said they called him trash, but I mean there maybe
Speaker 1: that might be a top winnable. It might be a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. I think maybe. I think Tampa is
Speaker 1: a playoff sleeper honestly, okay, but regardless, um, you just
Speaker 1: you get it. So you have, Yeah, you have two
Speaker 1: first round picks. Next year, you're not moving so far.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get somebody good, like I mean, Shack Lawson's
Speaker 1: a guy would be interested in there. It's not out
Speaker 1: of the question. I think z could be there at nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think i'd pull that trigger. I'd worry about the
Speaker 1: Dolphins jumping up in there. Yeah, I think the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are really hot. And I mean we answered that in
Speaker 1: the mail bag this morning. At this point, knowing everything
Speaker 1: that we know, if Zeke is your guy, I would
Speaker 1: just pick him at at four. Stop being cute, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me. Gonna take a couple of calls here,
Speaker 1: can't What do you got? You have Tony and Phoenix
Speaker 1: from Dallas, but lives in Phoenix. Tony year up. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Hi guys, all you doing well. I'm sorry told me
Speaker 1: not to ask you that. Sorry. Um. I think this
Speaker 1: is one of the easiest first round picks that I
Speaker 1: think Dallas has ever had. If you go back in
Speaker 1: the Cowboy time machine, this is very similar to eighty
Speaker 1: nine when we had Aikman, then the line was starting
Speaker 1: to get better. We got Himmett, then you got to
Speaker 1: a good Year, and then you went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I can't see any reason not to take Ezekiel
Speaker 1: because you'll have your triplets and it's very similar to
Speaker 1: when we were real good. Okay, thank you very much
Speaker 1: for the call. Tony. Appreciate that nobody has a problem
Speaker 1: with taking Eliot right. I have yet to hear one person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Dallas is lining up there. Somebody they realized,
Speaker 1: they've realized they've thrown Bossa into the trash area, and
Speaker 1: now it's like, now they're trying to grab Ramsey and
Speaker 1: throw him into the trash. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: they're still a pretty even so fun I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that like the idea of Ramsey
Speaker 1: and Byron being super athletic freaks in that secondary for
Speaker 1: the next kid put me up a pole if you
Speaker 1: can later on about I want to know how they're
Speaker 1: if people are throwing Ramsey out, Elliott is the sexy pick.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people out there that think
Speaker 1: Ramsey would feeling. We're gonna hear a lot about how
Speaker 1: Ramsey has zero interceptions. Now all of a sudden, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're out there too for zero sacks. There interceptions. Here
Speaker 1: we go, h I'm gonna take one more calls, Yeah,
Speaker 1: take one more. Take some calls here, go ahead, can't
Speaker 1: Philip in Pennsylvania? You're up, phil Hi guys. Uh. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask about Christian Hackenberg because I remember Dave
Speaker 1: was saying that he had a fifteen percent completion percentage
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, and I think that, um, although he
Speaker 1: did have like a back end completion percentage, he had
Speaker 1: an awful surrounding group behind him at Penn State. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think that with the offensive lines the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have and if they drift Ezekiel, maybe possibly he could
Speaker 1: be possibly their future at quarterbacks. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: see you his comments about that and if he could
Speaker 1: be their pick at thirty four or possibly if you
Speaker 1: would stick around to the third bound possibly. Okay, thank you, Philip.
Speaker 1: You know who else didn't have a great supporting cast?
Speaker 1: Jared Goff? Yeah that competing well, Wallers are pretty good.
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of guys. Yeah. But in terms
Speaker 1: of offensive line, absolutely, And that's the thing with Hackenburg
Speaker 1: is yes, absolutely, the play calling was abysmal. The coaching
Speaker 1: didn't help him. Um. The fact that he lost Allen
Speaker 1: Robinson after thirteen obviously didn't help. Yeah. So he didn't
Speaker 1: have the best weapons around him. But you want film
Speaker 1: and so many of his issues are on him, you know,
Speaker 1: not his supporting cast, you know, holding the ball to Yeah,
Speaker 1: the terrible decision making. The game just moves so fast
Speaker 1: for him, and will it slow down? Will he benefit
Speaker 1: from NFL coaching? I think so yeah, But how much well,
Speaker 1: you know, how much better can he get with some
Speaker 1: NFL coaching? I just use this term before, But I'm
Speaker 1: worried that he's already damaged goods and that worries me,
Speaker 1: especially if we're talking second third round. And I will
Speaker 1: to be fair to Christian and Connor Cook too for
Speaker 1: that matter both. I mean, the idea is that both
Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna sit anyway. So I don't
Speaker 1: hate the thought of taking Hackenburg at thirty four or
Speaker 1: sixty seven. I don't hate the idea of taking Cook.
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of getting rid of other picks
Speaker 1: to trade up and get them. I think that's an overpay.
Speaker 1: But when you factor in that, you're not if they
Speaker 1: were there at the spot you're pick, and you're good
Speaker 1: with that. If you factor in that they're not supposed
Speaker 1: to play for two to three years, then yes, I'm
Speaker 1: fine with them going at either of those. Hackenburg's the
Speaker 1: number sixty seven pick. Are you okay with that? I
Speaker 1: would be elated with that because I think the nature
Speaker 1: of the position is going to get him bumped up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's far more likely Hackenburg goes
Speaker 1: between thirty and thirty four than anywhere near sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Kay kn't, but that would be great. Pull is up
Speaker 1: with thirty votes at sixty forty and fair of Elliott
Speaker 1: right now on the draft show, I mean surprising to me.
Speaker 1: Let's let that thing. Let's yeah, let's that thing. Can't
Speaker 1: thank you for doing that again. We're calls there, Kent.
Speaker 1: I'll get some lined up, Okay, Dave, hit me on
Speaker 1: some uh actually got some time, give me some. Tell
Speaker 1: me more. I got some user tell me mores and
Speaker 1: you actually brought him up. So tell me more about
Speaker 1: Kenny Lawler. You know what. I like Kenny Lawler. I
Speaker 1: know I'll stay quiet because this is your guy. No, No,
Speaker 1: I like Kenny. I'll tell you what about Kenny Lawler.
Speaker 1: There will be times where you go is under pressure
Speaker 1: and he'll make some like terrible throws. And this guy
Speaker 1: the catch radius. I think it's very good. Some of
Speaker 1: the best catches, you know. Yeah, I mean he will
Speaker 1: make some circus catches. Now, he will also drop some
Speaker 1: concentration balls too. You know he's not an explosive player,
Speaker 1: but I do. I'd tell you what. I've watched that
Speaker 1: guy play out at San Diego, Keenan Allen and not
Speaker 1: run very fast and everybody's killing him, but he makes
Speaker 1: a hundred catches. That that's what I see you in
Speaker 1: this guy. I was I didn't have Keenan Allen high enough.
Speaker 1: I think coming from the same program, this guy's got
Speaker 1: that ability. Give me a guy that will get open,
Speaker 1: catch the football, be consistent about it. Again, there are
Speaker 1: some concentration plays, but he does make some outstanding bad
Speaker 1: ball catches. What about Maryland defensive tackle Quentin Jefferson. I
Speaker 1: think you had him at a defensive end, didn't you.
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did. A player that he's more
Speaker 1: a basketball player. You can tell when you watch him
Speaker 1: because he has that athleticism. The rest of hes a
Speaker 1: catch up in terms of, you know, transitioning that athleticism
Speaker 1: to actual football production. But a player who he already
Speaker 1: has a couple of kids. I mean, he's kind of
Speaker 1: centered in as you know, a mature guy. So I
Speaker 1: think you have a good feeling for what you're getting
Speaker 1: as a rotational player. I don't see him being a starter,
Speaker 1: but I think he be a guy you can added
Speaker 1: a rotation, be as solid three technique. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that great. I'm just I gave him a fifth or six.
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I think I had him. I had
Speaker 1: him further down than that, looking at my board, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I had him as one of I had him initially
Speaker 1: looked at as a defensive tackle. Just looking at me,
Speaker 1: I thought he was a tall player. Initials, some initial quickness,
Speaker 1: chase down, arm over, best pastor's move, you know, backdoors,
Speaker 1: some plays. I wasn't too terribly fired up about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he say. My last line was up and down the
Speaker 1: way he plays, So maybe not as consistent as you
Speaker 1: know you'd like. If you're listening to the draft show
Speaker 1: all this time, you should have. You've definitely heard this
Speaker 1: name by now, But he kind of disappeared. Now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm seeing jehad Ward as a you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting pushed as like a potential first round sleeper,
Speaker 1: maybe top forty guy. So tell me. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we talked about him at the Senior Bowl. I
Speaker 1: think the reviews were generally favorable. Yeah, but I was
Speaker 1: before he got hurt, he was he did a nice job.
Speaker 1: I was not under the impression he was that type
Speaker 1: of talent though. I honestly thought after the Combine we
Speaker 1: were gonna be start talking about him as a first
Speaker 1: round player. I thought he would blow up the Combine.
Speaker 1: But he did and he was kind of average mediocre.
Speaker 1: But he still moves really well for a three hundred
Speaker 1: plus pounder. And this is a player who his background
Speaker 1: is really fascinating, coming from you know, the juco level
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and coming to Illinois where he was productive.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of things, play defensive end for them,
Speaker 1: but he's three hundred plus pounders. Maybe best fit his inside,
Speaker 1: but you can move him all over. I think he
Speaker 1: has that versatility. Again, another player where the athleticism and
Speaker 1: the traits are really intriguing. They just they don't translate
Speaker 1: the football production just yet. And so if a coach can,
Speaker 1: a coaching staff can get hit their hands on him
Speaker 1: and mold that athleticism and get that into football production,
Speaker 1: he could be a pretty good player. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Dange right. I think there's some things you could see
Speaker 1: potentially him playing inside, you know, that might be his
Speaker 1: best thing. But if he had to play outside. I
Speaker 1: think he's a left defensive end only because I don't
Speaker 1: see a guy that always was able to capture the edge.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm worried about you're gonna play on the edge.
Speaker 1: Give me the guy that can get the edge, you know,
Speaker 1: give me those types of guys. I think if, like
Speaker 1: I say, he might be better inside because he could
Speaker 1: play with a little bit more quickness beat some guards.
Speaker 1: But on the outside, he's gonna be a struggle for
Speaker 1: him on that Where do you where you got him?
Speaker 1: I have him the fourth round, see, And that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I was. I sit next to you
Speaker 1: every day, so maybe I should get outside sources. I
Speaker 1: but but I'm seeing him as like a top forty guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I surprise at all because of people fall level. How
Speaker 1: he looks. Yeah yeah, I mean I remember him walking
Speaker 1: on I was walking him and he got such a
Speaker 1: backhanded compliment no no, but he but I was walking
Speaker 1: behind him and I think you and I were going
Speaker 1: up to the press box and he was coming off
Speaker 1: the field injured, and I'm like, going, holy smokes, who's
Speaker 1: this guy? You go? It's the word kid, And I'm like, god, dang,
Speaker 1: I mean he's physically he looked two hundred ninety six pounds.
Speaker 1: I mean he can see a lot of untapped potential
Speaker 1: with Yeah, and so I would not shock me at
Speaker 1: all if we see him go early second round. Okay
Speaker 1: he I mean he could be that next Malik Jackson
Speaker 1: for the song, because like then, that's the type of
Speaker 1: pick you make when you win the super Bowl. It's like, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take We're finish up the show. We got
Speaker 1: about four minutes. We're gonna take some calls. Ken, who
Speaker 1: else you got? We got stand in DC, go ahead,
Speaker 1: stand Hey, good question, guys. I'm I'm definitely on board
Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey. But if we do design to go
Speaker 1: with Zeke and being that Tony and Jason are coming
Speaker 1: towards the end of their career, shouldn't we be all
Speaker 1: in and maybe that number one next year trying to
Speaker 1: get back into this first round they get, maybe say
Speaker 1: the dB from Houston William. Yeah, so you want to go,
Speaker 1: You're gonna go all the way back up. It's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and do. How far are you trying to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how far are you trying to get in there? I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna be on the later end, So I'm
Speaker 1: something is somewhere between maybe twenty to thirty. Because if
Speaker 1: we pass on Rams and we go with Zeke, we
Speaker 1: still need to get that dB. Yeah, okay, well, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for the call. Stan give him some
Speaker 1: cornerback names. If he doesn't, he doesn't have to go
Speaker 1: diving up in there for that. I think Jackson's probably
Speaker 1: out of reach. Yeah, that point where that where you're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, if you want to give up
Speaker 1: next year's one, if they're gonna give up picks, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be for the quarterbacks. But but give
Speaker 1: him some names. Yeah, we need to give him some
Speaker 1: names of guys that we kind of like, because we've
Speaker 1: talked about the Howards, the Fullers, Kendall Fuller already Burns, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Will Redman, will Ryan Smith Smith. Yeah. I think there's
Speaker 1: enough corner talent where you don't have to give up
Speaker 1: next year's one, Right, even if next year's one ends
Speaker 1: up being in the twenties, you don't want to give
Speaker 1: that up. William Jackson's a nice player, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's going to be a PREMI
Speaker 1: pro ball. Talking to some scouts around the league, there's
Speaker 1: some questions about the mental ability of William jacks Gotta
Speaker 1: let him press, Yeah, I mean he's a if they
Speaker 1: plays off, people are like, go at him. He plays off,
Speaker 1: go at him. That's why he's probably had a lot
Speaker 1: of balls knocked down in his day. People are trying
Speaker 1: to attack him that way. Considering how often this team plays.
Speaker 1: I've heard from a couple of different teams that like,
Speaker 1: everybody loves this William Jackson. Check the mental makeup of
Speaker 1: William Jackson. A right, can't What do you got? Chris
Speaker 1: and Colleen Texas? Chris, how you doing? Brian good? Awesome? Awesome.
Speaker 1: My question is that do you think the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we have on our roster currently, um, do you think
Speaker 1: it could possibly developed to be the actual quarterback that
Speaker 1: we do? And that's my thanks, Chris. Quarterbacks Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore Showers Showers, No, right, he's not gonna did
Speaker 1: a lot of nice work on the scout team at
Speaker 1: safety last year and punt team and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could look at Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: Showers and think he's going to be the future. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just that they're not top thirty two quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this league. They're not. You know, I worry about either
Speaker 1: of one of them as my backup, to be honest,
Speaker 1: that's probably why they're talking about drafting one here, why
Speaker 1: they brought in seven quarterbacks exactly. I bet you they're
Speaker 1: still intrigued by Kellen Moore. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: far be it from me to rule out his future,
Speaker 1: but they're not. They're not comfortable leaving it alone, obviously,
Speaker 1: And if they bring a Christian Hackenberg in a third,
Speaker 1: then yeah, they should keep Kellen Moore, and you know
Speaker 1: he could be the if sometimes a Tony and the
Speaker 1: Bridge exactly, can't We got time for one more call? Yeah, Anthony,
Speaker 1: you got the last word. Hey, great guys, great job,
Speaker 1: quick quick quick comment or you've heard it before. We
Speaker 1: gotta get Zeke because you got to reproduce what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did in the nineties. You gotta get that start
Speaker 1: running back. You got you gotta copy it. You've gotta
Speaker 1: look at history. I think um Gary's trying to do that.
Speaker 1: You got the offensive line. We got to use that
Speaker 1: offensive line not just to protect Romo but to open
Speaker 1: you know, get these get that running back so we
Speaker 1: can win games points win games. Thank guys, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks for need to be able to run the football.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate for a second. I
Speaker 1: love Zeke. I would love that pick. I've been on
Speaker 1: board with that pick for months now. The guy that
Speaker 1: they had all that success with two years ago was
Speaker 1: a third round pick seventy one. If I recall, so CG.
Speaker 1: Process gotta gotta get Zeke is an overreaction to me.
Speaker 1: I still as much as I would of it, and
Speaker 1: I think it would make a difference. I know, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's gonna happen. When I go back
Speaker 1: to my Twitter account, educate, give him some running backs
Speaker 1: at thirty four. If we don't go quarterback, you don't
Speaker 1: go defensives in give me some running back. Talked about
Speaker 1: a third round running back? What about CJ. Process at
Speaker 1: sixty seven? Sure, a player that is still coming into
Speaker 1: his zone. You like Henry. You see a lot of
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray with with CJA Process. I think I like Henry,
Speaker 1: but not at thirty four. I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: can still get a very good player at thirty four.
Speaker 1: Get your running back at sixty seven, Dixon, I don't
Speaker 1: like him at thirty four. I know you do. But Booker,
Speaker 1: how about you give me my boy Kelvin Taylor at
Speaker 1: one on one. Add him to what you already have
Speaker 1: here with McFadden. Maybe not a complete guy. You don't
Speaker 1: need him to be a complete guy. If you're taking
Speaker 1: them at one on one. Kelvin Taylor might be available
Speaker 1: in the sixth. Fine, what that dude? That's my dude.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, bring him on. That's my dude. I
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says, all right. Thanks everybody out there,
Speaker 1: Thank you too to Thanks Dane Brugler, and thanks David Helly.
Speaker 1: We'll see you in twenty three hours. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: the draft show rolling again tomorrow eleven a in draft.
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Speaker 1: the last pick to have is at two nineteen, so
Speaker 1: we'll go from four to two nineteen and figure this
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