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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Pally Rant.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's finally here draft week and uh, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: you ready for Brian brought us along with Dame Brugler

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hey Brian, nice to have

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Speaker 1: you back, Dave. Thanks Kent Garrison executive producing the show today.

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Speaker 1: As always, Hello guys. We appreciate everybody being Outdore. Oh

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Speaker 1: what was that all about, Kim. It's draft week. But

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Speaker 1: it's a little audio loop that was awesome. It's it's

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Speaker 1: special effects. I want my whole life to sound welling

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Speaker 1: out all the stops for this year's draft. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: just kind of keep it in check until we actually

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Speaker 1: get drafted. Brian doesn't appreciate that, Frilly, I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate your technical value, but in this case,

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Speaker 1: just keep it straightforward. Let's keep it simple. All having

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Speaker 1: a good day, just talk some draft uh uh my

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Speaker 1: meeter for any kind of extra creec. It's not not

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Speaker 1: very good right now. You're kind of on edge. I'm

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Speaker 1: on edge because this is a very important time to

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Speaker 1: h a lot of teams around the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: a lot of personnel guys. You know, it's our livelihood.

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Speaker 1: So get a little upset about things that kind of

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Speaker 1: don't go the way they're supposed to go. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: today Ken, not today, Kim uh again, Um, we are

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Speaker 1: the draft show. I want to get into what we're

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Speaker 1: starting to hear now, and especially that Dallas Cowboys took

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Speaker 1: the opportunity yesterday to have their meeting with the media.

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Speaker 1: U usually these meetings with the media, you don't get

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Speaker 1: very much out of it, and I felt like that

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Speaker 1: we did get a lot out of this yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: I think I think that Jerry Jones has a hard

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Speaker 1: time lyne agree. Yeah, I really do. And I think

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Speaker 1: that he know when he was talking about the first

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Speaker 1: at four and make a pick. I believe him. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's gonna stand. I think they've got two players,

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Speaker 1: and you know, this draft to me for them is

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Speaker 1: going to come down to two players to start the day.

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Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of with the Cowboys pick and

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Speaker 1: with the trades that happened their draft for it all

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Speaker 1: in his two names, that's right if that if one

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Speaker 1: of that, their top player goes three, their second player

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Speaker 1: of why I'm Dane's right. You can't one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: trust anything that comes out of anybody's mouth right now,

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Speaker 1: but anybody but these guys. But it just it was

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Speaker 1: a more straightforward pressor than we're used to. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's because they're picking fourth. You know, they don't

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Speaker 1: have to sit here and say, well, we hope this happens,

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Speaker 1: but you never know how this is gonna play out.

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Speaker 1: Some stuff could go crazy. They're they're picking forth and

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Speaker 1: they know who the two first two picks are, so

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna get what they want. One where

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Speaker 1: I don't think this any secret. They're holding on Ramsey

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Speaker 1: they had every chance. It kind of reminded me of

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Speaker 1: a boyfriend, like your girlfriend says she loves you, and

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Speaker 1: some really glowing stuff about Joey Bosa, and they really

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Speaker 1: not Joey Bosa specifically, but but the pass rush and

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Speaker 1: certainly sounds like a two horse race for that pick.

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Speaker 1: listening to Jerry's talk about how a running back paying

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Speaker 1: after that. And that's you. You said something similar this

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Speaker 1: Ramsey and Elliott are both going to be there at

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Speaker 1: what he brings in twenty sixteen, but he gives you

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Speaker 1: and Zeke in my opinion, absolutely, I think we all

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Speaker 1: And I mean Johnny Manziel's in legal trouble, so I

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Speaker 1: Ramsey's He's not gonna sell as many jerseys as Elliott.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to help you win as much this year.

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Speaker 1: Elliott could potentially be a special difference making player. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's as much potential for bust with Elliott

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Speaker 1: the better pick for the long term future of the franchise. Well,

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Speaker 1: He's a great football player. He's an impact player at

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Speaker 1: the highest level. He's been a guy who's played both

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Speaker 1: He shows up on the tape, he leaps off the tape.

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Speaker 1: He's a great football player. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: You can generate a ton of turnovers himself. As last

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Speaker 1: problem with that last year. Is that factor in at

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Speaker 1: he's a very talented guy and a really good football player.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. I mean, he's he's looked about

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Speaker 1: as close to glowing as Jess and Garrett gets. But

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Speaker 1: don't go at it. Yeah, he's one of these guys

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Speaker 1: gonna have crazy pick numbers, because that's what college teams do.

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Speaker 1: They avoid those guys. McKenzie Alexander zero sack or zero

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Speaker 1: interceptions in his career at Clemson, same type of deal.

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Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, this is my point when

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Speaker 1: got to look past those numbers because they don't They're

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Speaker 1: not indicative of the tape and the player. You know,

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Speaker 1: just like zero interceptions for Ramsey this year does not

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Speaker 1: tell the story of Ramsey, just like five sacks does

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Speaker 1: not tell the story of Bosa. The box scores can

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Speaker 1: get you out of loopy. I gotta trust the tape.

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Speaker 1: And what kind of stood out for me was Coach

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Speaker 1: Garrett saying that he's equally talented at both safety and corner.

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Speaker 1: I think he's trying to once again ride defense and

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Speaker 1: say we all feel like that he's a better safety

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Speaker 1: that he is a corner. They're not even willing to

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Speaker 1: don't want to pack a guy that they haven't even

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Speaker 1: go through the top sixty. And then also two we've

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Speaker 1: like I could say, the Beast is good for when

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Speaker 1: we get into that third day. Really, those down the

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Speaker 1: we'll do a little bit here today and it will

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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of an idea some guys

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Speaker 1: that they might take down the line. But make sure

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Speaker 1: then grab that. It's all stuff that you definitely definitely

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Speaker 1: need for the draft. Program notes Tomorrow, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: at it at eleven am Central time. We're gonna be

444
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Speaker 1: doing some stuff. We're gonna do this Cowboys seven round

445
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Speaker 1: mock draft, so we're gonna pick all the Cowboys picks

446
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Speaker 1: there for them and then have some possibilities of some

447
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Speaker 1: scenarios trade ups, trade backs, look at all the different

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Speaker 1: angles here. So that will be our mock draft of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys seven rounds, and then we will have draft

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Speaker 1: coverage for you Thursday, Friday, Saturday, wall to wall. We'll

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Speaker 1: be on fifteen minutes before the draft actually starts. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you're looking at Dallas Cowboys dot com. We'll have

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Speaker 1: those times up Kent, we'll have them out too. If

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Speaker 1: you follow at the draft show, we're gonna push all

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Speaker 1: that stuff to you as well. So stay with us.

456
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Speaker 1: We're locked into what's going on all things draft. We've

457
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Speaker 1: got some great insight. We could probably hit some of

458
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Speaker 1: these picks before before the stations do so if you

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Speaker 1: want to just turn us up, put to put it

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Speaker 1: on TV and have us listening in the background. There

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Speaker 1: have us on in the background. We could probably help

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Speaker 1: you in that regards war room cam as well. Bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: war room cam as well. We'll have so much stuff. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: a lot of things going on. We'll have you covered.

465
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Speaker 1: So I think ed k Hill for this, we'll go

466
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Speaker 1: to a little twitter on David Hellman, what do you

467
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Speaker 1: got today? Shout out ed K Hill. We sort of

468
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Speaker 1: talk touched on this before we went to break, but

469
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Speaker 1: Michael says specifically for Danny says, I want to hear

470
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Speaker 1: Dane fight for Bosa at four. Is he willing to

471
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Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? I mean I think he's in that conversation. Again,

472
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Speaker 1: you look at my top players in this draft, and

473
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Speaker 1: again it's generic. You know, it's not Cowboys specific for

474
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Speaker 1: my board. But if I'm looking at Cowboys specific board,

475
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Speaker 1: Bosa would be in my top three players. Another NFL team, again,

476
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Speaker 1: did I trust when it has a very successful record

477
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Speaker 1: in this league sent me said Dallas's need defensive end.

478
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Speaker 1: That's how they view the Cowboys. So you could fight

479
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Speaker 1: for Bosa here, right. And you know when Helman mentioned

480
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Speaker 1: it about how he doesn't have that huge upside, well,

481
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Speaker 1: I don't want to chase upside. Give me a player

482
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Speaker 1: that I know what i'm getting. And with Bosa at

483
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Speaker 1: only twenty years old, the way he can use his hands,

484
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Speaker 1: that technique, that leverage, and we talk about people tell

485
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Speaker 1: me that he's not a great athlete. He tested as

486
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Speaker 1: a better athlete than Noah Spence did, right, So it

487
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Speaker 1: don't tell him he's not a good athlete. So I understand.

488
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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree that he doesn't have that high upside

489
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Speaker 1: in terms of you know, growing into this JJ Watt

490
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Speaker 1: type of player that's not who he is. Who he

491
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Speaker 1: is right now. You know he's going to get better,

492
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Speaker 1: but he's not doesn't have this huge ceiling. I think

493
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Speaker 1: he can be an eight to ten sack a year

494
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Speaker 1: guy and be a player that helps take, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: some attention off your other players on your defensive line,

496
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Speaker 1: helps your secondary as well. So there are some teams

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Speaker 1: picking in the six to eight range that are going

498
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Speaker 1: to be very, very happy if Bosa falls past top five.

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Speaker 1: Bosa has been a favorite to go here for three months.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't where, I mean, where do you? I

501
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Speaker 1: keep seeing him to Baltimore and I just I don't

502
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Speaker 1: see him as a three to four player that Baltimore's

503
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Speaker 1: need more of a a four three team this year. Actually,

504
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Speaker 1: they're transitioning and it's going to be interesting because you

505
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Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville at five, right they they drafted uh

506
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Speaker 1: Dante Valer last year. Yeah, he's coming off a cl injury.

507
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Speaker 1: You don't know where he's going to be. I think

508
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Speaker 1: Joey Bose will be awfully enticing to them. Baltimore definitely possibility,

509
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Speaker 1: But if Tounsil is still available, I think tounsil makes

510
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Speaker 1: more sense for Baltimore the Browns and number eight. I

511
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Speaker 1: think they could end up getting a steal at Bosa there,

512
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Speaker 1: and then I think absolute floor for Bosa will follow

513
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Speaker 1: the nine at Tampa Bay. Yeah, and then again this

514
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Speaker 1: Dave not to make you feel bad, but I'm gonna

515
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Speaker 1: make you feel good here. This team feels like though

516
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Speaker 1: that they could. Baltimore could use an outside lineback. I've

517
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Speaker 1: seen him pick there a lot. They and they've lost

518
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Speaker 1: up shot a free agency Sugs Dumerville are both signed

519
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Speaker 1: through twenty seventeen, but both are on the bold, both

520
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Speaker 1: on the decline, need to get younger there. So you know,

521
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Speaker 1: Bosa Spence was a guy that was mentioned there. If

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Speaker 1: you just care at Baltimore's needs outside linebacker, cornerback and

523
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker there. So yeah, I mean that that could

524
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Speaker 1: be a possibility, but they might. Deem Peas is their

525
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, likes to do a lot of different things

526
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Speaker 1: with his with his scheme. Pistol. Pete's given me a

527
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Speaker 1: shout out to the Senior Bowl. He says we haven't

528
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Speaker 1: talked enough about Kevin Hogan and he wants you guys

529
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: to break him down. Kind of what you think about him,

530
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Speaker 1: He says he sees a lot of Tony Romo in him.

531
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see Tony, but I see a guy

532
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: with great intangibles. Uh he's a great leader, a great person.

533
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that'll be offel appealing to a lot of

534
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Speaker 1: teams in this league. I think is enough arm strength.

535
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Speaker 1: He's built well for the NFL. My biggest issue is

536
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Speaker 1: the delivery. It's not pretty, and then his accuracy. What

537
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Speaker 1: he does it the way I could I compare it.

538
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Speaker 1: I think it's like he's throwing darts. He like aims

539
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Speaker 1: it and like pushes the ball. You know he doesn't.

540
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: It's not a just a clean motion in his delivery.

541
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Speaker 1: He looks to aim the ball. It's almost like he's

542
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Speaker 1: throwing darts. And I think that affects His accuracy is

543
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Speaker 1: not only uh, you know, downfield, but even on some

544
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Speaker 1: short and intermediate passes as well. So Hogan to me

545
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Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle sounds I think he can be

546
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Speaker 1: a number two in this league for a long He's

547
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Speaker 1: a sprayer. Yeah, the ball goes all over the place,

548
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Speaker 1: Danes right though, when you watch him throw it down

549
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Speaker 1: the field, you swear he's throwing the javelin. Yeah, it

550
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Speaker 1: looked like he's at the PAC ten, the Pac twelve

551
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Speaker 1: Championship at Berkeley and he's trying to throw the javelin

552
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Speaker 1: to get his team some points. Yeah, but I totally

553
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Speaker 1: agree with I mean, I think that there's things I

554
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: don't see a guy with great arm talent myself now.

555
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think that if the guy wants

556
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Speaker 1: to compare him to Romo, maybe Tony's arm talent is

557
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: gotten far since the back and stuff like that has

558
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: gotten far worse. But yeah, with Hogan, to me again,

559
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: I see the guy that sprays it, and the harder

560
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: he throws the ball, the harder it is for him

561
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Speaker 1: to control it. Sure, and that's that's a big issue.

562
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Speaker 1: And you know there's things he does underneath the touch

563
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: and stuff for screens. I think he's extremely smart. And

564
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that just because he goes to Stanford,

565
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: because there are things you watch him. He will protect

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Speaker 1: the football, his team know he knows how to get

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Speaker 1: his team in and out a good situation. They're a

568
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: physical team. He's got a physical mentality about himself. He's

569
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: a tough guy. But the thing about it is when

570
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: you spray the ball, You're gonna have some problems. This

571
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: guy's name is Zeke at four, so he wants to

572
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: know about late round defensive ends. We've talked about plenty,

573
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Speaker 1: but basically the gist of his question is how far

574
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Speaker 1: down can you go in this draft and draft a

575
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Speaker 1: defensive end who can play as a rotational guy as

576
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Speaker 1: a rookie. We play a role as a rookie. Yeah.

577
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Speaker 1: I actually I like kind of the defensive ends in

578
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Speaker 1: the in the early day three range. You know, I

579
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: think we're talking about the Matt ju Dons, the James Cowser,

580
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: the Tyron Holmes, Jason Fanika's daddy Nicholas. I mean, I

581
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: know you don't so much, but the I just was

582
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: named guy of a point in the draft, you know, fourth,

583
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: fifth round. I mean that's the type of guy you

584
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: take a chance on, guy that can try and see right. Yeah,

585
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go probably third, but yeah, I

586
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: think at different points, third, fourth, fifth round, right, there

587
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: there will be options. I mean, Ronald Blair to me,

588
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: we both like him a lot. I think of third round,

589
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: third round for about him, second round, right, but if

590
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: he's still there in the fourth, yeah, up, see The

591
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: thing about it is Dallas has got an early pick

592
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: at one oh one, and okay, and I don't know

593
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: if one of your questions is about Dallas getting back

594
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: up in there and drafting somebody's alf says, so damn

595
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: smart all the time. Well, I'm running out of days

596
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: here to be smart. But yeah, but but if you

597
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: that pick at one oh one starts the fourth day

598
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: or the fourth day, the third day of the draft,

599
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Speaker 1: it's in the fourth round, it's up there early Browns.

600
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Browns I think got the first two pick, and then

601
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: and then Dallas is on the clock. That is gonna

602
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: be a premium pick, because what's gonna happen. There's gonna

603
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: be some third round guys. Maybe Ronald Alston does slide

604
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: through the draft. Maybe somebody doesn't like Apps State and

605
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: they don't like him beating up on Clemson and North

606
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Carolina State and they let him there. That could be

607
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: a pick where I think if Dallas does not get

608
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Speaker 1: a guy, say say they don't they they're not gonna

609
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Speaker 1: draft Bosa, Well they don't take one at thirty four

610
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: or at sixty seven. One on one, one thirty five

611
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: could be two in that fourth round. They could get

612
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: two defensive ends in that because he just named you

613
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, Okay, and it players perfectly into it.

614
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about trading back into the first. Yeah,

615
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: potentially for a quarterback. Here we go. Wayne wants to

616
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: know what can sixty seven and one on one, dude,

617
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: to get you back into the second? Is that even doable?

618
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Is that impossible? Yeah? And I was thinking more like,

619
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Speaker 1: try to get I'm trying to get to We've talked

620
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: about really the Jets was it was it was it

621
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: two and a four kind of a thing. Yeah, I'm

622
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: trying to get you back in. I'm looking at teams

623
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: that would trade with you because I think I think

624
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I think Houston and Minnesota, Cincinnati stewers, they're gonna hang

625
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: in there and make their picks. That's where all those

626
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers they're not coming. They're not coming out of there, right,

627
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: They're just not coming out of there. They got wide

628
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: receivers on the brain. Kansas City at twenty eight to

629
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: a team you need to keep an eye on and

630
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: if you're willing now now, I just I just told

631
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: you the virtues of one on one and how portant

632
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: of a pick that might be what you have to do.

633
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: That if you hit him with one on one and

634
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: you say this is this is what we're gonna do

635
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: to you, that could get you to their spot from

636
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty eight though that's well that's one

637
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: on one and thirty four just they get to keep

638
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: sixty seven though, you get to keep sixty seven. Okay,

639
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: so they're coming back. You're gonna give him one on one,

640
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: which we think is a premium pick because well, you know,

641
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: way you all of a sudden you want to get

642
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: back in. You want to get that quarterback, you want

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: to get that guy or whoever you want to get

644
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: to get that fifth year that might be in the spot.

645
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Kansas John Dorsey Andy Reid a little bit more comfortable

646
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: about moving back, and Dorsey being a former Scout, Scout's

647
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: love picks. I tell you that all the time. One

648
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: on one. He might look at that and say, you know,

649
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: because Dana and I did a radio show the other

650
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: day and Dana and I did a trade and I

651
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: wanted I wanted your pick. It was I forgot who

652
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: we were were doing, but I it was the Jets. Yeah,

653
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the Jets. I was the Jets. And you were the

654
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I wanted your one on one. I wanted

655
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: that pick, and we ended up switching in the fourth. Yeah,

656
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: and we fly. Yeah exactly. But let me ask you this,

657
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: when Day one is over, do you think that Cowboys

658
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: will still have both of their Day two picks? I

659
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: think so. I'll go at the odds and I think

660
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that Jerry Joe. I think they're gonna

661
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: want a quarterback, and they're gonna want the fifth year.

662
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm seeing somebody at the bottom of the board. They're

663
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: gonna try and get ahead of that. That Denver I think.

664
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I think. I think that the team's at the bottom

665
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: of that board. I think green baked Teddy Thompson will

666
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: dive out of there in a heartbeat. You know he'll

667
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Teddy will back up. The better question is which quarterback? Well, Okay,

668
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: they brought in seven. I think that three of them

669
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: potentially could be gone, depending on what you like. I

670
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: like Lynch a lot more than other people in this world.

671
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: So if he's gone, then you're looking at the Okay,

672
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about the guys they brought in. Connor Cook,

673
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Connor Cook, Hackenburg. I think those are the two names

674
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: you have to look at, and that fifth year option

675
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: will be valuable. I mean, it's always valued what happen

676
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: to Denver with it? But with here, oh yeah, exactly,

677
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: and especially here with Romo, who knows how much longer

678
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: he has. I am torn between how much I like

679
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the idea of getting the option on that kid verse

680
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: how much I don't like any of the possibilities that

681
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: will be there. I think that's the bigger, bigger question,

682
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: is is it worth it? Wait a minute, we just

683
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: done it? Did a tweet? Asked answer to tweet that

684
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: one on one might be our defensive end, Dan was, Tony,

685
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: you might get Blair. You might steal one there. I know,

686
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'd rather have Blair at one on

687
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: one than a fifth year Christian Hackenburg at thirty one

688
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: or cook. You don't want to cook. But if you

689
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: can get him at thirty four, is it worth having

690
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: that fifth year option or is it worth having a Ronald?

691
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: But that's that's a reach, And I get it's a

692
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: reach out of necessity and it's you know, it makes sense,

693
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: but it's still a reach in my opinion. If he's

694
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: their fourth quarterback on their boards, their reach they have

695
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: a first round grade on they won't think it's a reach.

696
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Then team that does it never does. I think you

697
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: just don't like Connor. Don't either one of them. I

698
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: think they're bad. I don't think they're good. Okay, if

699
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: you can't complete sixty percent in college, you're probably not.

700
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: We all have our opinions on the guy. Again, they're

701
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: the one state we're just doing that draft. They're gonna, yeah,

702
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna sit down and be high five in and

703
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: shake it. Jerry got it. We got our guy, And

704
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I think you made a mistake. I

705
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: think both of those guys, both Cook and Hackerberg, neither

706
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: one completed over fifty any of their scenes. I think

707
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: that agree with that. I mean, forget all everything else

708
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: that stat alone. So they trade back in and it's Cook,

709
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: You're going on the slam bus right, absolutely, I will

710
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: go hard on that. I sitting right there. I think

711
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: Cook can be a starter in this league. I just

712
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: think he's a low end starter. I don't think he's

713
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: gonna make anyone around him better. I don't think he's

714
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to elevate the team. I think

715
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: he can start that's it. Would you rather have Connor

716
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Cook and the fifth year and lose a pick? Or

717
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: would you rather have Dak Prescott at sixty seven and

718
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair at one on one? See now he's not

719
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: really high on Dak Prescott. Insert quarterback of your choice.

720
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I think you have Cook over flip Scott?

721
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Am I right, yeah, I flip flop him? Game all right?

722
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: If I you can have Ronald Blair and a quarterback

723
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair and Jacoby Brissette. Ronald Blair and Dak Prescott

724
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: here too. By the way, I want whatever is the

725
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: one that gives me more players, more picks. I don't

726
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: have to get rid of stuff for bad quarterbacks. What

727
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: defensive end would you not want at one on one?

728
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Would I not want them to draft? Yeah? Uh KAFUSI Uh?

729
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: Who else? I wouldn't want Nicholas all two hundred and

730
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds of them? Okay, um, yeah, that's too

731
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: that's too light. We have a two hundred and thirty

732
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: five pound end. I don't talk about these quarterbacks. I'd

733
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: take him there, Holmes. I've got a fourth fifth on him,

734
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: so I'd consider him there. Okay, all right. I mean

735
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: I think that's that's talk about sweet spot. I mean,

736
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: that's that's valuable pick, valuable property. So I could just

737
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: see them, I could see them diving back into it

738
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: makes it makes a lot of sense. I just don't

739
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: like the options that are there for Like, if they

740
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: did that, it won't happen. But if Paxton Lynch was

741
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: to fall that far, Yeah, and they were to do that,

742
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I would I would stand up and I would applaud

743
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: and I'd say, yeah, you paid a price, but you

744
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: did what you had to do. Wild Card. I mean,

745
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: would would we really be surprised if he's on the board,

746
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: say at twenty seven, I would be pretty surprised, Yeah,

747
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: just because I know how this happens. Quarterbacks Christian Hackenberg

748
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: going in the first round, Teddy Bridgewater fell to what Yeah,

749
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying, but I would

750
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: be pretty stunned. I mean, Daniel Jeremiah mocked the guy

751
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: to the Saints. Okay, would you be surprised if Lynch

752
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: was on the board and Cook was on the board

753
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: they took Cook, if they took Connor Cook over Packs

754
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: and Less, I'd be kind of surprised. Yeah, Yeah, I

755
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: would be surprised. Some teams probably think that way. I mean,

756
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm NFL ready. I think cooks them was NFL ready

757
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class? All right, NFL ready, most NFL

758
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: already quarterback in his class that has a bad completion

759
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: percentage by college standards. Yeah, I'm not saying anything about

760
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: how good he is, but I think in terms of

761
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: being it right already, if you're not goodwin starter packs,

762
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: well yeah, he could be a lowin starter in this league.

763
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: But again, I know he can be Matt Castle something

764
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: like that, right, awesoctly awesome. I think that's what you're

765
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: getting with the player like that. I thought I think

766
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a you know, Ryan Tannehill without the athleticis Do

767
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: we have time for one more quick? Like we kind

768
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: of went off there, Let's let's do this. We gotta

769
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back and and and

770
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: and if it's you have a really good one, I'm

771
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: interested in to see what y'all are gonna say. Okay,

772
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: we'll have another discussion. We'll take one more question, but

773
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520
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Speaker 1: all right, you had one question, Yeah, just I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a good question from Martin. We've talked a

827
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: lot before about you know, nobody expected Laramie Tounsel to

828
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: fall this far and does that and pushed for trades,

829
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: particularly with the Cowboys. What about Jalen Ramsey. For three

830
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: months we've been talking about how he might be the

831
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: best player in the draft, best defender in the draft

832
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: if he's sitting there at four. Because the Chargers pass

833
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: on him. Is there's somebody there that just feels like

834
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: that's a move that they need to make. I'm off

835
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: the he actually he specifically mentioned the Ravens. I know

836
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: that they need defensive backs, but I'm not sure I

837
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: buy that that's something Ozzie Knewsom would do. What I could?

838
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: I give you a little Ozzie knew Some history. Yeah, absolutely,

839
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: how about this, I'll give you a little awesome. And

840
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: we're trying to trade up, right if we're all anybody

841
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: really in striking distance? Right, Ozzie knew Some's history is

842
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: he's spend the Germans since nineteen ninety six. He is

843
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: traded up. He's traded up eighteen times as he's traded

844
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: down fourteen times. A couple of history, first round trade up, right,

845
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: He's made thirty two trades in his career, is what

846
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: he's done. And he's going up for he's going up.

847
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: He's going up. Excuse me, going down four teen times

848
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: and going up eighteen times. So the team that I

849
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I been talking about the Ravens about that.

850
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: The Charger, the number three have been trying to sell

851
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: that pick, and I think they feel good about Buckner,

852
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: and they feel good about a lot of these guys,

853
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do is get Jacksonville at five,

854
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: to jump over Dallas to number three to get Jalen Ramsey. Right.

855
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville is in a spot where, you know,

856
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: they invested a lot in Fowler, so you know BOTHA.

857
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I think he's possibility, but maybe they don't want to

858
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: go in that direction. Miles Jack they love, but can

859
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you take a chance on him with a knee. So

860
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in a tough situation. Jalen Ramsey could be

861
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: that playmaker in the secondary that they want. Chargers are

862
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: trying to entice them to trade up to number three

863
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: and get him. It's possible. I'm sitting here thinking, oh,

864
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: can I just say real quick, yeah, Jacksonville team needs

865
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: d They lost, they lost Branch and Clemens. They value

866
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: pass rushers and made it clear they want to add

867
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: another edge play. They did the ledge player, went after

868
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon to take the pressure off Fowler. Okay, then

869
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: they're talking about Corner. They got a Mukama, he's under

870
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: a one year contract. You need a player for the future. Yeah, uh,

871
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, Colvin got suspended four games. So they're talking

872
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: about Ramsey or Apple Jacksonville's need d E DC cornerback

873
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: and linebacker. I just wonder if we've seen him mocked

874
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: to a cornerback so much, um Tampa Bay. Maybe if

875
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: that were to happen, if, I mean, they'd have to

876
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: see him as a corner probably, But people love Jason Light.

877
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Trading up it back, man, we think about possible, we try.

878
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: We're talking about trading up to four, trading up to three.

879
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I'm talking about trading up to four. If

880
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: Ramsey falls to the Cowboys, if if the if the

881
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Chargers really do you want Zeke? But to see I

882
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: worry about going back. I'm not doing it with any

883
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: goal in mind. It's it's not for Zeke. I'm just

884
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: doing it because the Cowboys aren't in love with this

885
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: spot and somebody that loves Ramsey makes a run at it.

886
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the question. Jason Light

887
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: has been a general general manager for I think you'd

888
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: really have to knock Jerry's socks off. I mean, he

889
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: said yesterday that it's more likely than not they're gonna

890
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: stand in and make the pick. Two years ago, Buffalo

891
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: gave up a first round or next year exactly, I

892
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: mean a fourth round. And that was only for a

893
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: short jump. I mean what it was probably nine to four. Yeah,

894
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: and so that's bucks to Dallas if you don't If

895
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: they made me that deal and I could get like

896
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson at nine, the thing is is we won't know.

897
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I know. So if you're sitting there at four, you're

898
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay. They want Ramsey. They're offering next year's

899
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: one plus a fourth rounder. This year. You're making that deal.

900
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: I think so because Tampa. You feel like Tampa might

901
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: be trash. Huh. I don't think they're gonna Actually, I

902
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be I think saying, I mean,

903
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: you'd make the deal thinking that make well, okay, I

904
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: said they called him trash, but I mean there maybe

905
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: that might be a top winnable. It might be a

906
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: top ten pick. I think maybe. I think Tampa is

907
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: a playoff sleeper honestly, okay, but regardless, um, you just

908
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: you get it. So you have, Yeah, you have two

909
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: first round picks. Next year, you're not moving so far.

910
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna get somebody good, like I mean, Shack Lawson's

911
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: a guy would be interested in there. It's not out

912
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: of the question. I think z could be there at nine. Yeah,

913
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: I think i'd pull that trigger. I'd worry about the

914
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins jumping up in there. Yeah, I think the Dolphins

915
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: are really hot. And I mean we answered that in

916
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: the mail bag this morning. At this point, knowing everything

917
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: that we know, if Zeke is your guy, I would

918
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: just pick him at at four. Stop being cute, but

919
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me. Gonna take a couple of calls here,

920
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: can't What do you got? You have Tony and Phoenix

921
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: from Dallas, but lives in Phoenix. Tony year up. Thank you,

922
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: Hi guys, all you doing well. I'm sorry told me

923
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: not to ask you that. Sorry. Um. I think this

924
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: is one of the easiest first round picks that I

925
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: think Dallas has ever had. If you go back in

926
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboy time machine, this is very similar to eighty

927
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: nine when we had Aikman, then the line was starting

928
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: to get better. We got Himmett, then you got to

929
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: a good Year, and then you went to the Super Bowl.

930
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: So I can't see any reason not to take Ezekiel

931
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: because you'll have your triplets and it's very similar to

932
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: when we were real good. Okay, thank you very much

933
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: for the call. Tony. Appreciate that nobody has a problem

934
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: with taking Eliot right. I have yet to hear one person. Yeah,

935
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean Dallas is lining up there. Somebody they realized,

936
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: they've realized they've thrown Bossa into the trash area, and

937
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: now it's like, now they're trying to grab Ramsey and

938
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: throw him into the trash. I think it's I think

939
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: they're still a pretty even so fun I think there's

940
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people that like the idea of Ramsey

941
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: and Byron being super athletic freaks in that secondary for

942
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: the next kid put me up a pole if you

943
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: can later on about I want to know how they're

944
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: if people are throwing Ramsey out, Elliott is the sexy pick.

945
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people out there that think

946
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Ramsey would feeling. We're gonna hear a lot about how

947
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Ramsey has zero interceptions. Now all of a sudden, Oh,

948
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: they're out there too for zero sacks. There interceptions. Here

949
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: we go, h I'm gonna take one more calls, Yeah,

950
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: take one more. Take some calls here, go ahead, can't

951
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Philip in Pennsylvania? You're up, phil Hi guys. Uh. I

952
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: wanted to ask about Christian Hackenberg because I remember Dave

953
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: was saying that he had a fifteen percent completion percentage

954
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, and I think that, um, although he

955
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: did have like a back end completion percentage, he had

956
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: an awful surrounding group behind him at Penn State. Okay,

957
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: So I think that with the offensive lines the Cowboys

958
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: have and if they drift Ezekiel, maybe possibly he could

959
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: be possibly their future at quarterbacks. I just wanted to

960
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: see you his comments about that and if he could

961
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: be their pick at thirty four or possibly if you

962
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: would stick around to the third bound possibly. Okay, thank you, Philip.

963
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: You know who else didn't have a great supporting cast?

964
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goff? Yeah that competing well, Wallers are pretty good.

965
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of guys. Yeah. But in terms

966
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: of offensive line, absolutely, And that's the thing with Hackenburg

967
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: is yes, absolutely, the play calling was abysmal. The coaching

968
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: didn't help him. Um. The fact that he lost Allen

969
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Robinson after thirteen obviously didn't help. Yeah. So he didn't

970
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: have the best weapons around him. But you want film

971
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: and so many of his issues are on him, you know,

972
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: not his supporting cast, you know, holding the ball to Yeah,

973
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: the terrible decision making. The game just moves so fast

974
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: for him, and will it slow down? Will he benefit

975
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: from NFL coaching? I think so yeah, But how much well,

976
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, how much better can he get with some

977
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: NFL coaching? I just use this term before, But I'm

978
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: worried that he's already damaged goods and that worries me,

979
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: especially if we're talking second third round. And I will

980
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: to be fair to Christian and Connor Cook too for

981
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: that matter both. I mean, the idea is that both

982
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna sit anyway. So I don't

983
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: hate the thought of taking Hackenburg at thirty four or

984
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: sixty seven. I don't hate the idea of taking Cook.

985
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of getting rid of other picks

986
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: to trade up and get them. I think that's an overpay.

987
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: But when you factor in that, you're not if they

988
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: were there at the spot you're pick, and you're good

989
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: with that. If you factor in that they're not supposed

990
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: to play for two to three years, then yes, I'm

991
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: fine with them going at either of those. Hackenburg's the

992
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: number sixty seven pick. Are you okay with that? I

993
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: would be elated with that because I think the nature

994
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: of the position is going to get him bumped up.

995
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's far more likely Hackenburg goes

996
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,959
Speaker 1: between thirty and thirty four than anywhere near sixty seven.

997
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: Kay kn't, but that would be great. Pull is up

998
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: with thirty votes at sixty forty and fair of Elliott

999
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: right now on the draft show, I mean surprising to me.

1000
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Let's let that thing. Let's yeah, let's that thing. Can't

1001
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: thank you for doing that again. We're calls there, Kent.

1002
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: I'll get some lined up, Okay, Dave, hit me on

1003
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: some uh actually got some time, give me some. Tell

1004
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: me more. I got some user tell me mores and

1005
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: you actually brought him up. So tell me more about

1006
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Kenny Lawler. You know what. I like Kenny Lawler. I

1007
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: know I'll stay quiet because this is your guy. No, No,

1008
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I like Kenny. I'll tell you what about Kenny Lawler.

1009
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: There will be times where you go is under pressure

1010
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and he'll make some like terrible throws. And this guy

1011
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the catch radius. I think it's very good. Some of

1012
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the best catches, you know. Yeah, I mean he will

1013
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: make some circus catches. Now, he will also drop some

1014
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: concentration balls too. You know he's not an explosive player,

1015
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: but I do. I'd tell you what. I've watched that

1016
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: guy play out at San Diego, Keenan Allen and not

1017
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: run very fast and everybody's killing him, but he makes

1018
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: a hundred catches. That that's what I see you in

1019
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: this guy. I was I didn't have Keenan Allen high enough.

1020
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I think coming from the same program, this guy's got

1021
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: that ability. Give me a guy that will get open,

1022
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: catch the football, be consistent about it. Again, there are

1023
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: some concentration plays, but he does make some outstanding bad

1024
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: ball catches. What about Maryland defensive tackle Quentin Jefferson. I

1025
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: think you had him at a defensive end, didn't you.

1026
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did. A player that he's more

1027
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: a basketball player. You can tell when you watch him

1028
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: because he has that athleticism. The rest of hes a

1029
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: catch up in terms of, you know, transitioning that athleticism

1030
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: to actual football production. But a player who he already

1031
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: has a couple of kids. I mean, he's kind of

1032
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: centered in as you know, a mature guy. So I

1033
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: think you have a good feeling for what you're getting

1034
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: as a rotational player. I don't see him being a starter,

1035
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: but I think he be a guy you can added

1036
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: a rotation, be as solid three technique. Yeah, I think

1037
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: that great. I'm just I gave him a fifth or six.

1038
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I think I had him. I had

1039
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: him further down than that, looking at my board, but yeah,

1040
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I had him as one of I had him initially

1041
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: looked at as a defensive tackle. Just looking at me,

1042
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was a tall player. Initials, some initial quickness,

1043
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: chase down, arm over, best pastor's move, you know, backdoors,

1044
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: some plays. I wasn't too terribly fired up about him. Yeah,

1045
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: he say. My last line was up and down the

1046
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: way he plays, So maybe not as consistent as you

1047
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: know you'd like. If you're listening to the draft show

1048
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: all this time, you should have. You've definitely heard this

1049
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: name by now, But he kind of disappeared. Now all

1050
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm seeing jehad Ward as a you know,

1051
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: he's getting pushed as like a potential first round sleeper,

1052
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe top forty guy. So tell me. I mean, I

1053
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: know we talked about him at the Senior Bowl. I

1054
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: think the reviews were generally favorable. Yeah, but I was

1055
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: before he got hurt, he was he did a nice job.

1056
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: I was not under the impression he was that type

1057
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: of talent though. I honestly thought after the Combine we

1058
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: were gonna be start talking about him as a first

1059
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: round player. I thought he would blow up the Combine.

1060
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: But he did and he was kind of average mediocre.

1061
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: But he still moves really well for a three hundred

1062
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: plus pounder. And this is a player who his background

1063
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: is really fascinating, coming from you know, the juco level

1064
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and coming to Illinois where he was productive.

1065
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: He did a lot of things, play defensive end for them,

1066
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: but he's three hundred plus pounders. Maybe best fit his inside,

1067
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: but you can move him all over. I think he

1068
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: has that versatility. Again, another player where the athleticism and

1069
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: the traits are really intriguing. They just they don't translate

1070
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: the football production just yet. And so if a coach can,

1071
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: a coaching staff can get hit their hands on him

1072
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: and mold that athleticism and get that into football production,

1073
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: he could be a pretty good player. Yeah, I think

1074
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: Dange right. I think there's some things you could see

1075
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: potentially him playing inside, you know, that might be his

1076
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: best thing. But if he had to play outside. I

1077
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: think he's a left defensive end only because I don't

1078
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: see a guy that always was able to capture the edge.

1079
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: You know, I'm worried about you're gonna play on the edge.

1080
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: Give me the guy that can get the edge, you know,

1081
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: give me those types of guys. I think if, like

1082
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I say, he might be better inside because he could

1083
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: play with a little bit more quickness beat some guards.

1084
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: But on the outside, he's gonna be a struggle for

1085
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: him on that Where do you where you got him?

1086
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: I have him the fourth round, see, And that's that's

1087
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of what I was. I sit next to you

1088
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: every day, so maybe I should get outside sources. I

1089
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: but but I'm seeing him as like a top forty guy. Yeah,

1090
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: I surprise at all because of people fall level. How

1091
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: he looks. Yeah yeah, I mean I remember him walking

1092
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: on I was walking him and he got such a

1093
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: backhanded compliment no no, but he but I was walking

1094
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: behind him and I think you and I were going

1095
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: up to the press box and he was coming off

1096
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: the field injured, and I'm like, going, holy smokes, who's

1097
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: this guy? You go? It's the word kid, And I'm like, god, dang,

1098
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's physically he looked two hundred ninety six pounds.

1099
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean he can see a lot of untapped potential

1100
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: with Yeah, and so I would not shock me at

1101
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: all if we see him go early second round. Okay

1102
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: he I mean he could be that next Malik Jackson

1103
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: for the song, because like then, that's the type of

1104
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: pick you make when you win the super Bowl. It's like, yeah, Okay,

1105
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna take We're finish up the show. We got

1106
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: about four minutes. We're gonna take some calls. Ken, who

1107
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: else you got? We got stand in DC, go ahead,

1108
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: stand Hey, good question, guys. I'm I'm definitely on board

1109
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey. But if we do design to go

1110
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: with Zeke and being that Tony and Jason are coming

1111
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: towards the end of their career, shouldn't we be all

1112
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: in and maybe that number one next year trying to

1113
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: get back into this first round they get, maybe say

1114
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the dB from Houston William. Yeah, so you want to go,

1115
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna go all the way back up. It's what

1116
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and do. How far are you trying to? Yeah,

1117
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: how far are you trying to get in there? I'm

1118
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna be on the later end, So I'm

1119
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: something is somewhere between maybe twenty to thirty. Because if

1120
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: we pass on Rams and we go with Zeke, we

1121
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: still need to get that dB. Yeah, okay, well, thank

1122
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: you very much for the call. Stan give him some

1123
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: cornerback names. If he doesn't, he doesn't have to go

1124
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: diving up in there for that. I think Jackson's probably

1125
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: out of reach. Yeah, that point where that where you're

1126
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, if you want to give up

1127
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: next year's one, if they're gonna give up picks, I

1128
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be for the quarterbacks. But but give

1129
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: him some names. Yeah, we need to give him some

1130
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: names of guys that we kind of like, because we've

1131
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: talked about the Howards, the Fullers, Kendall Fuller already Burns, Yeah,

1132
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: Will Redman, will Ryan Smith Smith. Yeah. I think there's

1133
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: enough corner talent where you don't have to give up

1134
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: next year's one, Right, even if next year's one ends

1135
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: up being in the twenties, you don't want to give

1136
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: that up. William Jackson's a nice player, but to me,

1137
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's going to be a PREMI

1138
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: pro ball. Talking to some scouts around the league, there's

1139
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: some questions about the mental ability of William jacks Gotta

1140
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: let him press, Yeah, I mean he's a if they

1141
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: plays off, people are like, go at him. He plays off,

1142
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: go at him. That's why he's probably had a lot

1143
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: of balls knocked down in his day. People are trying

1144
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: to attack him that way. Considering how often this team plays.

1145
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: I've heard from a couple of different teams that like,

1146
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: everybody loves this William Jackson. Check the mental makeup of

1147
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: William Jackson. A right, can't What do you got? Chris

1148
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: and Colleen Texas? Chris, how you doing? Brian good? Awesome? Awesome.

1149
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: My question is that do you think the quarterbacks that

1150
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: we have on our roster currently, um, do you think

1151
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: it could possibly developed to be the actual quarterback that

1152
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: we do? And that's my thanks, Chris. Quarterbacks Kellen Moore

1153
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore Showers Showers, No, right, he's not gonna did

1154
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of nice work on the scout team at

1155
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: safety last year and punt team and all that good stuff.

1156
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could look at Kellen Moore

1157
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Showers and think he's going to be the future. I mean,

1158
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: it's just that they're not top thirty two quarterbacks in

1159
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: this league. They're not. You know, I worry about either

1160
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: of one of them as my backup, to be honest,

1161
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: that's probably why they're talking about drafting one here, why

1162
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: they brought in seven quarterbacks exactly. I bet you they're

1163
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: still intrigued by Kellen Moore. And I mean, you know,

1164
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: far be it from me to rule out his future,

1165
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: but they're not. They're not comfortable leaving it alone, obviously,

1166
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: And if they bring a Christian Hackenberg in a third,

1167
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: then yeah, they should keep Kellen Moore, and you know

1168
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: he could be the if sometimes a Tony and the

1169
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: Bridge exactly, can't We got time for one more call? Yeah, Anthony,

1170
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: you got the last word. Hey, great guys, great job,

1171
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: quick quick quick comment or you've heard it before. We

1172
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: gotta get Zeke because you got to reproduce what the

1173
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys did in the nineties. You gotta get that start

1174
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: running back. You got you gotta copy it. You've gotta

1175
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: look at history. I think um Gary's trying to do that.

1176
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: You got the offensive line. We got to use that

1177
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: offensive line not just to protect Romo but to open

1178
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, get these get that running back so we

1179
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: can win games points win games. Thank guys, all right,

1180
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: thanks for need to be able to run the football.

1181
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate for a second. I

1182
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: love Zeke. I would love that pick. I've been on

1183
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: board with that pick for months now. The guy that

1184
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: they had all that success with two years ago was

1185
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: a third round pick seventy one. If I recall, so CG.

1186
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: Process gotta gotta get Zeke is an overreaction to me.

1187
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: I still as much as I would of it, and

1188
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: I think it would make a difference. I know, right.

1189
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's gonna happen. When I go back

1190
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: to my Twitter account, educate, give him some running backs

1191
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: at thirty four. If we don't go quarterback, you don't

1192
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: go defensives in give me some running back. Talked about

1193
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: a third round running back? What about CJ. Process at

1194
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: sixty seven? Sure, a player that is still coming into

1195
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: his zone. You like Henry. You see a lot of

1196
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray with with CJA Process. I think I like Henry,

1197
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: but not at thirty four. I mean, I think you

1198
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: can still get a very good player at thirty four.

1199
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Get your running back at sixty seven, Dixon, I don't

1200
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: like him at thirty four. I know you do. But Booker,

1201
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: how about you give me my boy Kelvin Taylor at

1202
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: one on one. Add him to what you already have

1203
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: here with McFadden. Maybe not a complete guy. You don't

1204
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: need him to be a complete guy. If you're taking

1205
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: them at one on one. Kelvin Taylor might be available

1206
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: in the sixth. Fine, what that dude? That's my dude.

1207
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, bring him on. That's my dude. I

1208
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says, all right. Thanks everybody out there,

1209
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: Thank you too to Thanks Dane Brugler, and thanks David Helly.

1210
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: We'll see you in twenty three hours. Yeah, we got

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00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: the draft show rolling again tomorrow eleven a in draft.

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Speaker 1: Mock Draft Cowboys seventh a mock draft. We're gonna work

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Speaker 1: through it, try and take all the picks. I think

1214
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: the last pick to have is at two nineteen, so

1215
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: we'll go from four to two nineteen and figure this

1216
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: thing out. So again for my Scott, anybody's day, Burglar,

1217
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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Ken't Garrison, executive producer, Thanks everybody, prout to

1218
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Speaker 1: for join us. Thanks to Scott and to Dave and

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Speaker 1: everybody who helps us put this show together with all

1220
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Speaker 1: the graphics and things. So we'll see tomorrow at eleven

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