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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the awkward years though you kind of did hear.

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Speaker 4: That, I'm going through all of it in front of everybody,

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Speaker 2: Were you just finding songs? Right?

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Speaker 2: not even understand what's happening. I mean, at fifteen you

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Speaker 1: Well, I have a sister. She didn't at the time.

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Speaker 2: Was old enough though, Yeah, make her own decisions exactly.

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Speaker 2: Your parents must have really believed though, if they're going

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Speaker 4: Oh oh, they were all in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everything. They give up everything, like so our

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So were you as a eleven twelve year old? Were

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Speaker 2: It's like a good ballplayer at a single layer double

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Speaker 2: you're awesome. Did you feel awesome?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm such a terrible person, Like I'm the wrong

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Speaker 2: You're not ragging. That's the difference, because you must have

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that he has great ears.

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Speaker 1: He knows he has a knack for weeding through that

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Speaker 2: You don't talk about you like, were you just crushing

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Speaker 1: I mean I was probably to a degree. Yeah, when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had vocal lessons all those things that you

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Speaker 2: Your band were they older? They were?

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Speaker 1: And so when I'm done with this, I'll go back

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Speaker 4: What do you want to sound?

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Speaker 1: It was a good well, well, I'll say in hindsight,

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Speaker 4: The song who I Am?

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Speaker 2: Did it come together quicker? It?

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Speaker 1: And I think we just made a point to make

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Speaker 1: You know, We're like, we've done this, we know, you know,

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Speaker 1: That was the other thing too, is DreamWorks was committed,

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Speaker 4: got children.

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00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: This song seems more like a a song that is

442
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: somebody who's like trying to find their way, they don't,

443
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, and Martinez more settled, you know, got I

444
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like I really believed deeply that that

445
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: was not the right song for her and that it

446
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: was the right song for me. And thankfully, you know,

447
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: Brett and Troy agreed they could have they could have

448
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: given it to Martina, who's you know, it was so successful.

449
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: Did you feel like that was the song as you

450
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: were recording it or was it once it was recorded

451
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: you were like you knew that was the one.

452
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the even just listening to the demo,

453
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: we knew that was a great song. Than recording it

454
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: all the way, I think everyone knew throughout the whole process,

455
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: like we have a single, we have a first single,

456
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: you know, this is it. It just it just became clearer,

457
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, through every phase of making that record that

458
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: that was going to be the lead off.

459
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: Did that song hit different, meaning when it came out

460
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: you felt it quicker than any of the songs prior.

461
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you're.

462
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: From outside, you just like wow that it was well received.

463
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that song it was just super special and

464
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: it was so it's like a song. In fact, to

465
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: this day people ask me if I wrote it, you know,

466
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: because it sounds personal. It sounds like a like a

467
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: song that I would have written, because it is so

468
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: personal sounding. And to this day people still will ask me,

469
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: is your grandmother Rosemary?

470
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: You know that?

471
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Which it's not right, which it's not, No, it's not,

472
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: but but uh yeah, I just feel like that song

473
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: was is so special. And in Scott Burshetta at the time,

474
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: who was the head of promotion at DreamWorks, he just

475
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: put together this super amazing campaign at radio.

476
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 4: At that time and worked.

477
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: I think I told the story that night when I

478
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: was honoring him that he was like, Okay, we're gonna

479
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: go do a radio tour for this song, and we're

480
00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna It came out in like late later in the year,

481
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: and so we had to do a radio tour right

482
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: up until Christmas.

483
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: How old are you at the time, sixteen, Yeah.

484
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Sixteen because I think it went number one when I

485
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: was seventeen, but it came out the end of the

486
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: year the prior year, and so we just we we

487
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: did a strong radio game with it, and you know,

488
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: nobody does it better than Scott Like he just had

489
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: a he felt like, man, we got a great song.

490
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 4: Let's go.

491
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

492
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: What was the biggest and craziest it got with that song? Well,

493
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: I mean, did you play the award shows?

494
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, won an award. I I always think

495
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: this is funny, Like I was nominated for Horizon. It

496
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: used to be called Horizon Award, right alongside Brad Paisley

497
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: and Keith Urban. And it's funny, like those guys have

498
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: gone on to have such amazing careers and I was

499
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: like right there with them at the time, like we

500
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: were all three like doing all the same things together.

501
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: And I won Top New Female Vocalist at the ACMs

502
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: all the things.

503
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, it was. It was life changing for me.

504
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: What did your grandma's name, Her name's Patsy. I am

505
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: pet of syllables, I know, right. Did you try to

506
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: say that like pat miss Patty? Then I'd be like,

507
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: I am miss Patsy.

508
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: On third streets grand It just didn't fit, it didn't work.

509
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: It was cute.

510
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I remember her saying like people would come up to

511
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: her and say, are you Rosemary? And she used to say, well,

512
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: you know what, if this song's a big hit, then

513
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll be Rosemy.

514
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna change my name to Rosemary. It was so cute.

515
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

516
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

517
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Speaker 2: The label one of the labels that you're on, they

518
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: didn't even put out your record because they folded. Oh yeah,

519
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: it was later, but I have friends it's said that's

520
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: happened to as well.

521
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had the worst craziest luck know, I will

522
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: say this.

523
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: So after.

524
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: After we had you know, my really good run at

525
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: DreamWorks and behind the scenes, things started shifting with Scott

526
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Burssetta wanting to leave and start his own thing, which

527
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of this at the time, but

528
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, man, if he leaves, like it's

529
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: going to be different for me because we have such

530
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: a connection. He really was, and it was really him

531
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Harnan, who now has gone on to be

532
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: you know as successful as Scott. But those two guys,

533
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: they were just magic and they were in my corner.

534
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: And so once he left, I you know, I did

535
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: do another album after the Who I Am record, but

536
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: that was the after nine to eleven. Nine to eleven

537
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: had happened and everything shifted very patriotic, and so it

538
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: was different. The tone, the tone was different, and I think,

539
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: had that not happened, you know, well who knows. So

540
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: then DreamWorks folds becomes under the umbrella of Universal. I

541
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: get moved over there, I do a record there and

542
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't come out. We parted ways, got dropped, so

543
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: they say, or you know, you know the words, we

544
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: get dropped. And then years later I signed with Disney

545
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Lyric Street which.

546
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: Music though, by the way, on that record, what happened

547
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: to that music?

548
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: That music never came out officially, although you can probably

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: find it online.

550
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: Someone got a hold of it and you know, released it.

551
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Themselves, so they never put it out.

552
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: Never put it out now, Yeah, and that funny.

553
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Seems like a lot of work to just not put it.

554
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: Out, I know. And that was that was a fun

555
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: record to make.

556
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: We went down to Miami to do that album in

557
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: a really cool studio like a famous studio called Criteria.

558
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: I think Missy Elliott was doing an album in the

559
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: room next to mine, in the studio next to me.

560
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you know, at the time, it's like

561
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking, but you as over time you learn, like, man,

562
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: this happens to so many people. It's just like the

563
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: age old story of you know, falling in the cracks

564
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: of music business, you know, shuffling and whatnot. And for

565
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: me that just seemed it kept happening.

566
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: And you know, I moved on.

567
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: To Carrol Wood Records, which was like an imprint of Disney.

568
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: Same thing happened there.

569
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: We made a record really with Jada Marcus from Rascal Flats.

570
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: He's such a great producer. We did an album together.

571
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: It was awesome, and it never never saw the light

572
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: of day.

573
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of music that people didn't get

574
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: to hear it.

575
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: I know, Yeah, it's crazy.

576
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: Thankfully, though, that album has not made it into the

577
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: wrong hands, like I have an imposter person that somehow

578
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: gets these unreleased songs, they'll put it out, but that

579
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: album remains untouched, thankfully, So I don't know, maybe maybe

580
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I can get that, get.

581
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: That and there's a posture you.

582
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of brutal.

583
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: I've had I've had a fan for years who just

584
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: won't accept that I, you know, that I'm really not

585
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: making music anymore, like not not actively putting out music.

586
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: And so at first they found anything out there that

587
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: they could unreleased, and they would try to find that

588
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: and put it out. But then after they ran out

589
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: of material, then they would just start singing themselves.

590
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: But then yet they'll release it under my name.

591
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: So if you like, if you go on Apple Music

592
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: right now, you you can find all of this focus horrible,

593
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: horrible sounding stuff.

594
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: The quality's bad, and I'm like, oh my.

595
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Gosh, people, I really hope people don't think that the

596
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm putting out these you know, these songs, it's just terrible.

597
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: That's so bizarre.

598
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: And they and they've booked shows, no interviews.

599
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: I've had you.

600
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: As mean social media sites you are you you?

601
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Or are you the impostor No.

602
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: It's it's they've duped so many people.

603
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: That's because I've had stalkers and I've had really crazy

604
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: people and we've had to get the FBI involved in

605
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: oh really, but never that's a whole different I don't

606
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: know how you feel with your safety, but the fact

607
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: that people are impersonating you, I would say publicly as

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: far as like someone's acting like you, I've never heard

609
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: of that before.

610
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: It's us. It's really frustrating.

611
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Do you know who it is? Oh? Yeah, have you

612
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: been like a season desist and nothing?

613
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: We haven't.

614
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah we did. We did the whole thing.

615
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: We found out she has a criminal history.

616
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: No surprising. Usually people that are crazy to do other

617
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: crazy things.

618
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, pretty sure. She knows where I live.

619
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, and I'm just like, why won't you

620
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: move on to someone else?

621
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: That she was singing And.

622
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's her that sings, but but

623
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I do know that she's the mastermind.

624
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: That puts it all together. What about the interviews, same thing.

625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 4: I don't know.

626
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's her and then sometimes it might

627
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: be someone else. But I mean, she'll signed contracts, she

628
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: books things. I've had people that will get in touch

629
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: with me and say, you didn't show up.

630
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: This is the crazy thing I ever heard, Jessie. I'll

631
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: be honestly, I mean, I've been talking to a lot

632
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: of people for a lot of times I never It

633
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: is a crazy thing I ever heard. Like I feel bad,

634
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: like I want to punch somebody, and I'm blown away

635
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: at the same time that somebody would have the audacity

636
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: not to just get on social media and scam people

637
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: out of money, because people will do it under my name,

638
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: and I'm like, if there's no blue check mark, it

639
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: ain't me. You know that happens. Yeah, that's different because

640
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: that's somebody in like South America that's just like grabbing.

641
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Anybody's trying to the fact that they're acting like you.

642
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: No, they've been committed like for years with this and

643
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: nothing really fazes her.

644
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: I know that it's her.

645
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like all the anything legal that

646
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: you'll throw, She's just doesn't really care. So at this point,

647
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to do about it because

648
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: we just kind of combat it as it as we

649
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: see it, like get it down, take it down.

650
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's really big headache.

651
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Is she a fan?

652
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it started. And I believe that that

653
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: at the root of it. She believes that she's helping

654
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: sustain my name out there. I think that's what I

655
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: think that's her endgame.

656
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you are not helping exactly. You are hurting. You're

657
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: hurting me. I'm gonna start acting like you. I wanta

658
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: find out who you are. I'm gonna put our stuff

659
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: as you.

660
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: I could give you her name.

661
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Melissa, I'm gonna put our stuff as Melissa, whatever the

662
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: crap your name is. I'm gonna put out that stuff.

663
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: I joke. But I'm also very very sorry to hear that,

664
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: because we have dealt with mm hmm unfortunate circumstances similarly,

665
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: and we'll move off of it. But I hate that, Like,

666
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: I hate that for you, as crazy as it is,

667
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow that I can't believe that. Yeah,

668
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: that sucks, Yeah, it does. That just sucks.

669
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And mainly you just don't want people out there

670
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: thinking that you didn't show up for a show or you,

671
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, because she'll book things, you know that that

672
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of thing.

673
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: I just don't.

674
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't like that you own you, nobody else owns you. Yeah,

675
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: and it's like they're trying to take ownership of a

676
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: part of you. Dang. I hate that.

677
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's frustrating.

678
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: So I was watching you sing at the Opry and

679
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: you sound you were there that night. No, but I

680
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: watched a lot of tape. Really well, I didn't know

681
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: you were going to be that. The whole thing was,

682
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: I was talking about you because Brett Dames was playing

683
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: the song we were shooting for.

684
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: The show Love that he does that song.

685
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody's going crazy. And then again I'd asked

686
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Tom Lord, hey do you know her? I don't. I

687
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: never met her. It's not a huge town. Never even

688
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: bumped into you. And he was like, I don't. But

689
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: then he went to the opry thing and sent me

690
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 2: a video of you. He's like, this is the weirdest

691
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: thing because she's here tonight and saw you singing. You

692
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: sounded so good. Oh so do you still sing out

693
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: of all to keep your voice in shape? You know?

694
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm there's things for sure, yeah, that that will come up,

695
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: like I've had friends that we do you know, writers

696
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: write around type things and yeah, for sure, yeah, I

697
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: mean obviously if things come up here and there, I

698
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: will do it.

699
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: It's not like I'm completely.

700
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: I don't know because you said you like not no, no, done.

701
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you just were like, I'm I'm

702
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: not saying it's true.

703
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, i I'm I have been in like mom,

704
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: mom Land for the last seven years. But but no,

705
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm not like Anti's I'm not singing anymore.

706
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: But it just.

707
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: I will definitely say yes to things that you know,

708
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: like make sense and that are fun to do and

709
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: things like that. So writers things that I love to do,

710
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: and I've done several of.

711
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: Those in the last few years. And it's funny.

712
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm I actually try to say yes because my kids

713
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: are getting to the age where I do like for

714
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: them to see that side of me, Like I.

715
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Was gonna have about that because they probably obviously they

716
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: didn't get to see that as you were doing it,

717
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: but do they understand it now? How was your oldest

718
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: My son is seven, so maybe just starting to kind

719
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: of yeah, yeah, he's.

720
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: Seen me sing and and he was there that night

721
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: at Auprey, so yeah, And it's important for me too

722
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: because I want, you know, I want him to know,

723
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, you know, if I'm always going

724
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: to be your cheerleader and telling you to go after things,

725
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, I also wanted him to see that, you know,

726
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: mom has has done a lot of cool stuff and

727
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm not your just you know, the one Megan snacks.

728
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: All the time, you know, is your mom still alive?

729
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

730
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was able to see your success.

731
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was. She was with me, traveled with

732
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: me everything. Oh my gosh, yes, oh yeah, oh yeah.

733
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 4: She was amazing.

734
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: She was never one of those like stage moms that

735
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, try to control everything behind the scenes. And

736
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, you hear so many stories of people who

737
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: had success as kids and then they have some kind

738
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: of falling out with their parents.

739
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: Because of they stole their money.

740
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, all kinds of stories like that. Never the case.

741
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: So then I guess she wasn't a mom that was

742
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: just living vicariously through years.

743
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: She was in a way like because she just was enjoying.

744
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: It all and it wasn't like dominating her not at all. Now,

745
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: Really it was full and rare for a parent of

746
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: a child that gets really successful.

747
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, it is because that can boy that

748
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: can really end. Lots of divorces happened because of it.

749
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: And I will tell you, like that could not have

750
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: been easy because we were traveling so much, and my

751
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: dad but he would he would come, you know, as

752
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: much as he could, but there were times when he

753
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: had to hold it down and you know, have a

754
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: job and we weren't making money in the beginning, and

755
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: so that had just been so hard, you know, to

756
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: keep a marriage together, my oldest and my older sister

757
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: and so but yeah, they we came through it, and

758
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: there weren't easy, Like it wasn't always super easy, but yeah,

759
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: they were the best as far as support and just

760
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: loving the opportunities that we were given.

761
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: You know, we knew that this was a ride of

762
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 4: a lifetime.

763
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: I have a very close friend whose daughter is doing music.

764
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: His daughter's about the age that you were when you

765
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: were starting music. And he's a great dad and she's

766
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: a great kid. And she played at the Rhyman with

767
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: me a few did a few weeks ago. I guess

768
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: she's so good, right, and one of the land of giants.

769
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: But she's so good, such a great songwriter. Wow, But

770
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: she's a kid. How old they're twelve thirteen?

771
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a kid.

772
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: That's a kid. That's a kid.

773
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 4: To me, it's like a baby.

774
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so weird that she's a kid. But

775
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: then when she's on stage is like a movie something

776
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: that just isn't a young child. It's like she has

777
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: she's more mature on stage than I would ever be

778
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: doing it one hundred more years. There's just something that is.

779
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: What that is you asked me that earlier. That is

780
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: something that people used to say about me. They wouldn't

781
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: have never guessed I was that young when I was

782
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: on stage doing you know, singing.

783
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: There's an irrational confidence that she has. And I tell that,

784
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: like I told her during sound checks, like you shouldn't

785
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: be this confident, Like right, yeah, like you you should

786
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: because you're that good. But you're young, you know it? Yeah,

787
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: they don't.

788
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: Kids don't get in their head. They're not overthinking.

789
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: They're not worrying about who's watching me, what I needed

790
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean? Like adults, do we

791
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: care too much about all of the other stuff.

792
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 4: Kids just get up there and do it.

793
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's fun, they know you know, hey I

794
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: can do this, so I'm gonna do it. So there's

795
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: not a lot of overthinking for them. And that's what

796
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: it just comes. It's so effortless in that way.

797
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: What advice would you give a kid if they were like, hey,

798
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm twelve, got because she's got like big managers now

799
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: like all just but also what advice would you give

800
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: the parents? Like two different sets of advice, and so

801
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: talk to the kid first, because you were the kid

802
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: in that, like, what would you say to.

803
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Them, Well, I would, I would say, first, have so

804
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: much fun with it, because while it is a business

805
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: and it can get really crazy and hectic, you can

806
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: lose sight of that sometimes you can, for you can

807
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: easily forget and the exhaustion and the and the schedule

808
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and all of that. You can forget about the part

809
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: of I'm a kid, So I need to be making

810
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: sure I'm enjoying this and for the parents as well.

811
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: Make sure of.

812
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: That, you know, make sure the kids enjoy me.

813
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: Make sure that.

814
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: You can whatever however crazy and hectic it can get,

815
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, try to try to make it fun.

816
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 4: And and then also is I mean.

817
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Who you surround yourself with is so important too, Like

818
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: if you've got really great people around you, I mean,

819
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: that is a game change, I feel like. And I

820
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: was so blessed to have the best I mean, I

821
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: think all you know, the Byron Gallimore and Scop Shudd

822
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Harnen, I mean, Scott Simon was my manager

823
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: who's still to this day, Ti McGraw's manager.

824
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: You if you.

825
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Really and I always felt like I had good instincts

826
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: about people even I guess yeah, and I think my

827
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: parents did too, And so I think that's important if

828
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you are if you've got a good, good instinct about

829
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: people and who this person?

830
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: This kid? Is it a girl? You said? Girl?

831
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

832
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, who you need to work with? And that's that's crucial.

833
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: I think what about the parent, what would you tell

834
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: the parent? Well, since they are the parent, I mean

835
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: they're going to be instrumental and who surrounds her and

836
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: that's just important.

837
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: I mean that's so.

838
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: It just it matters. I mean not just on a

839
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: level off that's a child, but just someone that, like

840
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: I said, they always respected my opinions and including her

841
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: in the mix, you know, not just everybody making decisions,

842
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, make sure she feels a part of it,

843
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, even though they're so young.

844
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: She's so young, I mean, she's maybe.

845
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 7: The Bobby cast will be right back, this is the

846
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 7: Bobby Cast.

847
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: Was there ever an imbalance because you start to have

848
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: success and get famous and your mom was your mom

849
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: before you started, your mom is still your mom, but

850
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: now you're kind of famous. Yeah it was. Did the

851
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: balance ever change? Where You're like, but you're also like

852
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: a teenager and you're already questioning what your parents do. Anyway,

853
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: it's such a war.

854
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I had such a node, like nothing was normal with mine.

855
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: It's funny my my husband now, I met him when

856
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I just turned eighteen. He's a songwriter too, and I

857
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: just turned eighteen when I met him, and we joked

858
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: about it then and we still joke about it about

859
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: how I nothing about my teenage years were normal. He

860
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: went to college, he did da DA, I didn't. I

861
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't go to high school, none of that. And so

862
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I think years years later, I would I started to

863
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: unpack a lot of that, you know, about just how

864
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: non typical everything was for me. But it but it

865
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: felt normal. I didn't know anything different. So I guess

866
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: it's just relative to what you what you know, and

867
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: that's all that I knew. But there was never any

868
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of imbalance with my family, nothing like that, probably

869
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: because they I had people that took care of things.

870
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I had a business manager, a manager. No, they weren't

871
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: ever involved in that. They were just parents. And you know,

872
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I will say that that was that was important to me,

873
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: that they just remained parents.

874
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: That was it.

875
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: And I would say the same thing for the young girl.

876
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, make sure you're parents are just your parents.

877
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: They'd let them just lovingly adore and admire and so

878
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: that all those other things don't get blurred. Do you

879
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, all the business stuff. Sure, yeah,

880
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: that's it because it can.

881
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine gets blurry now I'm an adult.

882
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can't. I would never ever want

883
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: to blur those lines.

884
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 7: You know.

885
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want my parents to manage me or I just.

886
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: If you're your kid in five years, like I want

887
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: to go do music.

888
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: You did, Oh, oh that would be great. I would

889
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: that would be encouraging. It's not like I would be like, no.

890
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: Seven year old boy, right, is he like to sing?

891
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 4: He's an amazing drummer. He's very he can sing.

892
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 5: Because the other from both sides, you and his dad. Yeah,

893
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: so he's drawn to the drums. Yeah, he's great. He's

894
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: really really good, and he actually can sing too. But

895
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: you know, he's just he's going through like a little

896
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 5: shy thing right now, very similar to how I was

897
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: at that age when.

898
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: When you were seven that were you singing though at all?

899
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: I know your mom, but like around the house, I

900
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: was loud and all of that. But the minute you

901
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: would put me on the spot to do it, then

902
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: I would I would clam up and want to hide.

903
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: You know.

904
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: But did you ever come into like a windfall of money?

905
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: No, it was like.

906
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: A gradual thing, you know, and and with who I am.

907
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: I mean it's still to this day, I'm like, gosh,

908
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: I didn't write that. I wish I did, because I know,

909
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: you know those Brett and Troy still see, you know,

910
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: good money from that song. No, it was it was

911
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: never like a oh you know, cash is flowing now.

912
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: It was it was. It was gradual.

913
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I did a good tour one year that

914
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: was really successful and great.

915
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Are you ever somewhere and people are singing it like

916
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: either a karaoke place because I heard sing it, or

917
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: at the grocery store and it's playing over the top

918
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: of you.

919
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's happened for sure. But I would say lately

920
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: it's it's had a few little TikTok viral moments. I

921
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: think a few years ago it did, and then literally

922
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: just like a month ago, I started getting all these

923
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: videos and tags from like people and I'm like, oh

924
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, it's having a little moment again

925
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's so funny. I'm not really on TikTok

926
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: by choice just because I I probably I would just

927
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: become too addicted to it. But it's it's it's on

928
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: there and I see all the videos and it's crazy.

929
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: My son, you know, like gets I think that's that

930
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: he gets a kick out of that.

931
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Did anybody ever see it on the shows like The

932
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Voice or yeah, because I was on American Idol for

933
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of years, But yes, I feel like it

934
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: was saying by like in the audition.

935
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: And Daniel Bradberry the Voice did that song on the Voice.

936
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

937
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: Yes, she did an amazing job.

938
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: And then she went on to actually sign with Scott Worshetta,

939
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. But yeah, it's done. Yeah,

940
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: that song's done. And I'm telling you that song is

941
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: just it's gonna continue to have a life. I think

942
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: as as newer generations you know hear it. Do you

943
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: get tired of singing it one of those timeless songs? No,

944
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't, because you know, you'll figure out ways to

945
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: sing it and make it, you know, like like I

946
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: did at the Opry, I kind of slowed it down

947
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: and it did probably didn't sound very much like how

948
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: the recording does, but you know you kind of reinvent

949
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: well County Crows.

950
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: I was watching them sing yesterday. It's my favorite band,

951
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: and he it counting. Yeah, he sings. He sings different

952
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: the whole time, and I love him, but it's like, man,

953
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: it's hard to sing along. I heard yours. I could

954
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: sing along with yours with the tempo was just slowed down.

955
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: But he like sing mister Jones. I'd be like mister

956
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Jones me. Oh, like, dude, there's nothing like the one.

957
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: How much sing along to that?

958
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 4: Right? Oh?

959
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: So he's making it a point to like it not

960
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: be a sing along type song.

961
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the times and he's just kind of like, man,

962
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: I can't do it again exactly.

963
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: That's exactly what that is due.

964
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: If you sing the song, it's so branded to you.

965
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: And I think I try to put myself and shoes

966
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: of somebody who had something that was so they were

967
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: known for. Did you ever have a bad relationship with

968
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: it for a while afterward or was it always positive?

969
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: You know what I think about that is in recent years,

970
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I think that people don't really know they haven't made

971
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: the connection with who sings that song because of social media.

972
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Social media wasn't around when the song was a hit,

973
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: and so now these days I feel like it's they

974
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: know the song, you know, but they're like, oh, I

975
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: did not realize it was so and so, and then

976
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: they'll have to kind of do a little bit of

977
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: digging or connect the dots somehow and then figure it

978
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: out that way. But I think that's just a time

979
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: thing because its social media.

980
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: Were you ever like twenty two or twenty three and

981
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: you were like just kind of over it for a minute.

982
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. No, I've never felt that

983
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: way about that song. It's such a great song man.

984
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: When you have a song that is connects with people

985
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: and it continues to do that, I think I just

986
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: always knew and felt lucky to have had a song

987
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: like that.

988
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Your husband, now I was reading about him, but he's

989
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: still he's still active in the industry kind.

990
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 4: Of yeah, kind of.

991
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of in the same boat as

992
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: me as far as like when we have kids your world.

993
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Kind of does he right?

994
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, he does. Right.

995
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: He's not actively writing for a publisher, but he does write.

996
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a writer any writer will probably tell

997
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: you that you're those.

998
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, creative is always creating regardless.

999
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: So that's him basically, yes, do you guys? He wants

1000
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: to though, he really does want to get back and

1001
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: like write, right.

1002
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: What about you? Do you want to get back? I think, well,

1003
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: I mean not right, just you just want to get

1004
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: back and sing more? Do more shows? Be more? I

1005
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: don't know what do you want? Because obviously you love

1006
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: being a mom?

1007
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: I do.

1008
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: That's that's a really great question, and that's one I

1009
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: ask myself a lot. I really do, because I think

1010
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: that probably for every woman who has kids and becomes

1011
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: a mom is going to probably wrestle with that a

1012
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, got men don't really have to

1013
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: think of it in that same way. But you know,

1014
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: there's just a lot more thought that goes behind. If

1015
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I would ever really want to I'm always gonna sing,

1016
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: But if I ever wanted to like jump back into

1017
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: like doing it as a as a you know, get

1018
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: back in the game kind of thing, I don't know,

1019
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: because I just there's a lot to consider and think

1020
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: about when you're raising babies, you know, And I think

1021
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: about when I was fifteen and when I went out

1022
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: on tour. My first tour was Faith Hill and she

1023
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: was probably in her early thirties and she was raising

1024
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: babies too, man on that too or she had two

1025
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: little ones, I mean little the whole time on the road.

1026
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: So you know, I know it's like possible, and people

1027
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: do it. You know, you do what you gotta do.

1028
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's just a bigger question for me is

1029
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: if what kind of balance would I want to? You know,

1030
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: you have to strike a balance somehow, and how can

1031
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: you do that? I think I wrestle with that, I'll

1032
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean I don't I don't know what

1033
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: the real answer for that is. I you know, it

1034
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: would it would have to be something that some some

1035
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: bigger thing would need to give me the answer to that.

1036
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: You know, something would have to feel great, feel right.

1037
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: But I'm always gonna sing, you know, it's we'll just

1038
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: we'll see how things align.

1039
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: How was Faith Till toward you?

1040
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: She was so awesome. She was like a big sister.

1041
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean she gave me clothes, took me out on tour,

1042
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: really just told me and like whatever whatever I can do,

1043
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, to help, and and she did.

1044
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: I mean she was really.

1045
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: Great to her and in both they were just.

1046
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: They were they've done that for a lot of people.

1047
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Swift would in the beginning of Taylor's

1048
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: career too, she said the same thing they've faced. Just

1049
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: all would always say that Riba did the same thing

1050
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: for her when she was getting started. So I think

1051
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: she just felt that, you know, that's that's what you

1052
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: do when when there's up and coming artists, you just

1053
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: kind of you have to show them that same you know, support.

1054
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: Well, this has been really awesome for me. I'm so

1055
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: happy you came and sat and oh my god. Again

1056
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: it was all just kind of random, and I.

1057
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: Was like, may really really is yeah.

1058
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: And then it went from really cool to like, wow,

1059
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: that's twice in like twenty six hours.

1060
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: That's one of those things where things line a line,

1061
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: and you know, so.

1062
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming over and thank you sitting

1063
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: and talking.

1064
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this so much. I'm so glad you asked what.

1065
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Did you think about during this that maybe you haven't

1066
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: thought about in a while, because I don't happen on

1067
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: me sometimes if someone's talking about something like oh, I

1068
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: kind of forgot it right because you know, I talked

1069
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: about early records and some buyer and stuff anything come

1070
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: to mind. You're like me, you know, I don't really

1071
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 2: thought about that in a long time.

1072
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: Oh well a lot. I mean, you know, it's funny.

1073
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: I I mean, I think the Scott thing is funny

1074
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: because when I was asked to do.

1075
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: That a month ago, it was just a month ago.

1076
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone.

1077
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Knows the the career that he had, he's had because of,

1078
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, signing the biggest artist on the planet. But

1079
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I think when I was singing that song and talking

1080
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: about him on stage a little bit, it just got

1081
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: me thinking, like, whoa, this is crazy, you know, like

1082
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: he he went on to to sign another young female,

1083
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, and people have asked me that a few times.

1084
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 4: They're like, oh my gosh, how did that make you feel?

1085
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: You know, to know that he left and then went

1086
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: on to do something, and it's never I mean.

1087
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 4: I understood he I got the pick the big picture.

1088
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate the circumstances of you know, falling

1089
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: through the cracks and album getting shelved and things like that.

1090
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: But I you know, I never really had thought about

1091
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: it all that much until until I was on that stage, Like,

1092
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know. And it's funny I had

1093
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: run into him. I didn't tell this story when when

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Speaker 1: I was honoring him. I would I wouldn't have done that.

1095
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: But like one year at the CMA's backstage, I ran

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00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: into him on the red carpet and he was he

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00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: gave me a hug.

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 4: He's like, and I think.

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00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Taylor had her Fearless album was just getting ready to

1100
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: come out, and he came up, gave me a hug.

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00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my gosh, great to see you. And

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00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: and I can't remember exactly what we said, but he

1103
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: he's I feel like he.

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: Kind of was.

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00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say he was apologizing,

1106
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, yeah, you know, I feel

1107
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: great that I got to, you know, start up my

1108
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: own thing. And goes like I got to do everything

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00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: with Taylor that I never got to.

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00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: Do with you. And I was like, oh wow, you know,

1111
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: like you know, but I think that.

1112
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: Was his way of saying that he he got the

1113
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: creative control he always wanted, you know, and to do

1114
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: his own thing, and he had all those big ideas

1115
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: with me.

1116
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: But that's what it felt like to me. And you

1117
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: said that they felt like he that you had the

1118
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: situation been a bit different, that could have been you

1119
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: because you had the talent to also do that with him.

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: I think Scott wished he was at the helm, you

1121
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: know of dream Works, so that he really could have,

1122
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, made all the decisions. I think that was

1123
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: ultimately what he was saying was and that's how it

1124
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: came out. And when he said I got to do

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00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: all these things with her that I never got to do.

1126
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: With you, because he thinks he could have done it

1127
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: with you because of what he saw on you and

1128
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: what you did while you were with him.

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00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because he was he was a big

1130
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: champion of mine. So yeah, I thought of you know,

1131
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: that story did play in my mind when I was

1132
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: up there talking about him. I was like, wow, but

1133
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, we had a moment, you know. And and

1134
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: when I said my little thing about that we had

1135
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: we had one you know, one hit, I said, I'm

1136
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: all right, all these years later saying I was a

1137
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: one hit wonder, you.

1138
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 4: Know, I think it's you know, I don't. I don't.

1139
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: That doesn't hold any kind of like stigma for me,

1140
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: Like I think it's great. I'm I'm honored that I

1141
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: had like an amazing song that is finding new audiences

1142
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: still to this day. So I kind of I kind

1143
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: of own that a little bit, you know, like nobody

1144
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: knows what the future holds, you know, you never know,

1145
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: but for a for a moment, you know that that

1146
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: was for me, like my like my one hit. So

1147
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: but it was just an honor that we got to

1148
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: do that together and we did some good stuff.

1149
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for being thank you, and

1150
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: I would do like, hey, follow, but you know what,

1151
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: you're smart. Your Instagram's private. What's that? Your Instagram's private?

1152
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: You're smart? Yeah?

1153
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: Is it?

1154
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? It is private?

1155
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: Right, That's that's That's the thing with me too, is

1156
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: I kind of like, yeah, secluded myself because of because

1157
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: of ye all that craziness that's I did.

1158
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm hiding everything.

1159
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to share anything because I don't want

1160
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: them getting a hold of it.

1161
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, that's crazy.

1162
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: I know.

1163
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: We had a Yeah, we had the FBI. It was

1164
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: a whole situation. I had to kill him. No, I'm

1165
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: kidding all right, and that we're gonna go.

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Speaker 6: Jessica, thank you, thank you, thanks for listening to a

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Speaker 6: Bobby Cast production.