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Speaker 2: Round two games from tonight, Warriors Timberwolves Game one, as
Speaker 2: well as Pacers Cavs Game two. Both games marred by
Speaker 2: substantial injuries to very important players, which has been a
Speaker 2: huge bummer. I'm a little bummed out in general after
Speaker 2: the way tonight went, just because you always want to
Speaker 2: see these teams compete against each other at full strength,
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Speaker 2: when you work through an eighty two game season and
Speaker 2: then somebody gets banged up in a big spot. We'll
Speaker 2: be talking about the injuries a little bit later. We're
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Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. So obviously, the SAT injury is
Speaker 2: just a huge bummer. Any of you guys have ever
Speaker 2: had a hamstring strain. I've had one playing basketball. Ironically,
Speaker 2: it was like a kind of an interesting trajectory thing
Speaker 2: for my basketball career because I played JUCO my first year.
Speaker 2: But I actually tried out for the same JUCO the
Speaker 2: year prior and pulled my hamstring in a in the
Speaker 2: training camp there, and I re injured it like three
Speaker 2: or four times before I finally gave it the appropriate
Speaker 2: amount of rest. It's just such a finicky injury, and
Speaker 2: the specific thing that you'll notice when you have a
Speaker 2: hamstring injury as a basketball player, when you're trying to
Speaker 2: make explosive moves forward, there's a lot of that hamstring
Speaker 2: pulling your body after that first step, and like that
Speaker 2: was where I'd constantly re injure it. I'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I feel fine, I'm ready to go, and then I'd
Speaker 2: like try to do an aggressive dribble move to the
Speaker 2: right and immediately be like, oh, nope, not even close
Speaker 2: to ready. I need to take some more time. And
Speaker 2: so it's just such a huge bummer, because it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to envision a scenario where Steph is close
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent in this series, which is obvious
Speaker 2: a huge swing towards Minnesota's favor, and I thought this
Speaker 2: was a series that Golden State could win for a
Speaker 2: lot of the same reasons that you guys saw tonight.
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about it in a minute. I do
Speaker 2: think that there is a pathway here, a very slim
Speaker 2: pathway for Steph to return in this series and to
Speaker 2: be somewhat impactful. We'll talk about that in a little bit,
Speaker 2: but as far as this particular game goes, one of
Speaker 2: the big things I talked about in the series preview
Speaker 2: was just the simple fact that this is a very, very,
Speaker 2: very different matchup than the Los Angeles Lakers team. I
Speaker 2: was impressed by a lot of what Minnesota did in
Speaker 2: the first round, but it looked pretty similar to what
Speaker 2: they did to Phoenix last year, and I left that
Speaker 2: series primarily extremely disappointed with the Los Angeles Lakers and
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff they did on both ends of
Speaker 2: the floor, their competitiveness defensively, even at the tail end
Speaker 2: of the series, Lebron was doing a bad job on
Speaker 2: the Glass and defensively, Luca I thought got soundly outplayed
Speaker 2: and looked super out of shape at the end of games.
Speaker 2: Their defense was horrible. It just I was really disappointed
Speaker 2: in them. And as I looked at the Warriors, I
Speaker 2: looked at them as on offense, a very different type
Speaker 2: of offense, and then just a substantially better defense. You know,
Speaker 2: I was texting with Jackson during the game, like, I
Speaker 2: always have to be careful saying this kind of stuff
Speaker 2: because there's a segment of Steph Curry fans that are
Speaker 2: so just irrational that they take it as some sort
Speaker 2: of criticism of Steph or some sort of minimize attempt
Speaker 2: to minimize Steph. But Steve Kerr is a top two
Speaker 2: coach in this league, and Draymond Green is the greatest
Speaker 2: defensive player of this era. And this team has an
Speaker 2: extremely high floor even without Steph because of those two
Speaker 2: guys and what they do to set the floor on
Speaker 2: both ends of the floor, what Draymond does defensively. And
Speaker 2: then Steve Kerr in that front office, and I want
Speaker 2: to connect the front office to this. This has been
Speaker 2: consistent through multiple general managers. But they just know how
Speaker 2: to find smart basketball players. That can play within what
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr asks them to do. And that's what allows
Speaker 2: you to see guys like Quentin Post step in and
Speaker 2: be impactful, Pat Spencer step in and be impactful. For
Speaker 2: a guy like Buddy Heel who literally struggled at every
Speaker 2: other destination of his career to suddenly come into Golden
Speaker 2: State and be a useful player on both ends of
Speaker 2: the floor, like that is a credit to Steve Kerr,
Speaker 2: and that's a credit to this organization. And like I thought,
Speaker 2: tonight was just a giant advertisement for what makes the
Speaker 2: Warriors one of the great organizations in the NBA from
Speaker 2: the top down. And Steph is just the top tier
Speaker 2: superstar that can lift them to championship level success. But
Speaker 2: these guys that there is this is this is one
Speaker 2: of the great coaches in NBA history and one of
Speaker 2: the great defensive players in NBA history. And those dudes
Speaker 2: got the job done in extremely unfortunate circumstances with their
Speaker 2: star going down early in the game the way they did.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about the specific differences. So the defense,
Speaker 2: Golden State was the number one defense in the league
Speaker 2: after the Jimmy Butler trade. I talked about this a
Speaker 2: lot coming into the playoff runt. But this is, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, an entirely different tier of defensive team than
Speaker 2: the Lakers team that Minnesota faced in the first round. Specifically,
Speaker 2: the two things that I mentioned was their ability on
Speaker 2: the perimeter to actually get up into the ball because
Speaker 2: they actually have some quick guards that can guard the ball.
Speaker 2: Guys like Gary Payton, Guys like Moses Moody, guy like
Speaker 2: Buddy Healed has been defending at a really high level
Speaker 2: this year. They got a bunch of guys that can
Speaker 2: actually use their quickness up on the ball. The Lakers
Speaker 2: were a team that could not pressure the ball. They
Speaker 2: could not pressure the ball because they're all six' eight six'
Speaker 2: nine and pretty slow footed. By comparison they have to
Speaker 2: play more of, a passive contained type. Of defense they're
Speaker 2: sitting back off. The ball they're trying To funnel ant
Speaker 2: because they know they can't. Stop him they're trying to
Speaker 2: funnel him into a certain type of help. Side situation
Speaker 2: they were just facing all these like foot speed mismatches
Speaker 2: all over. The floor Right With. GOLDEN state i thought
Speaker 2: the biggest thing that stood out right away was just
Speaker 2: How uncomfortable minnesota was on the Perimeter Against golden state's.
Speaker 2: Ball pressure all of that ball pressure caused them to rush,
Speaker 2: the issue force the issue into. The paint and, Then Again,
Speaker 2: Draymond green you're not going to find a better PLAYER
Speaker 2: in nba history at occupying the paint and disrupting everything
Speaker 2: there while also being able to get out and get
Speaker 2: a great close out On a nase read or get
Speaker 2: out and get a great close out on another shooter
Speaker 2: on the. Weak side And So golden state Just put
Speaker 2: minnesota into a completely different type of offensive situation instead
Speaker 2: of getting to walk the ball up the court and
Speaker 2: just pick a mismatch that they liked and set a
Speaker 2: screen to get the switch and then space the floor
Speaker 2: and then it gets to casually dribble wherever, he Wants
Speaker 2: and julius gets to casually dribble wherever. He, wants instead
Speaker 2: it's pressure forcing them to make. Decisions quicker any sort
Speaker 2: of ball pressure typically is going to lead to an
Speaker 2: offensive player just looking to attack it off, The dribble
Speaker 2: and there was just a lot of really poor decisions
Speaker 2: in the middle of the Floor by Ant and julius
Speaker 2: in the. First half they did get better in the.
Speaker 2: Second half there was also a little bit of a
Speaker 2: Letup From golden state as they took multiple twenty, point
Speaker 2: leads but they did have some success in the. Second
Speaker 2: Half anthony edwards in particular started to figure out how
Speaker 2: to get to the rim. And finish this is one
Speaker 2: of the BIG things i picked up from the, series
Speaker 2: preview if you, GUYS remember i just think this particular
Speaker 2: matchup is really Rough For. Julius randall he on defense
Speaker 2: is asked to track shooters and be paying attention off,
Speaker 2: ball constantly and then on the offensive end of, the
Speaker 2: floor It's just draymond's one of the best guys at
Speaker 2: once again stunting at him and making him uncomfortable and
Speaker 2: putting him in positions or he can make bad decisions
Speaker 2: or take. Bad shots, BUT overall i thought the gap
Speaker 2: in the defense was abundantly clear. Right away they allowed
Speaker 2: just thirty one points in the. First half even in
Speaker 2: the second Half when minnesota made. Their run, If Ever
Speaker 2: golden state needed to kind of reassert control of. The
Speaker 2: situation they were able to get the stops that they needed.
Speaker 2: To get they had some Issues With rudy gobert on the,
Speaker 2: offensive glass but they were able to kind of keep
Speaker 2: it relatively within a manageable type. Of margin just their
Speaker 2: defense cleanly won the first round of, this match the
Speaker 2: first game in. This series minnesota will. Have adjustments there's
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of things that they'll look
Speaker 2: to do better and look to. Do DIFFERENTLY but i
Speaker 2: thought the initial idea Of What golden state's defense does
Speaker 2: and how it's different than What the lakers do had
Speaker 2: a substantial Impact. On minnesota on the other end of,
Speaker 2: THE floor I Thought golden state generally looked very comfortable
Speaker 2: early in. The game they had a couple of guys
Speaker 2: that went Called Like buddy healed was really struggling to
Speaker 2: hit shots earlier in, The Game jimmy butler who was
Speaker 2: struggling to get going early in.
Speaker 3: The game but you.
Speaker 2: Could see steph got several clean. Looks early you could
Speaker 2: see that the dynamic of the Way That golden state
Speaker 2: was attacking on offense Was giving. Minnesota FITS and i
Speaker 2: thought we especially saw that in the middle portion of.
Speaker 2: The GAME because i want To Take steph CURRY and
Speaker 2: i want to remove him from the equation for, a
Speaker 2: Second because steph is a obviously this top five player
Speaker 2: in the world who is one of the greatest PLAYERS in,
Speaker 2: nba history greatest shooter of, all time all, That stuff
Speaker 2: but there's also a basketball schematic. Concept Inside What golden
Speaker 2: state does is very different Than what, minnesota does and
Speaker 2: that is they have incessant action ball in, player movement
Speaker 2: the balls popping from side. To side shooters are constantly
Speaker 2: running off. Of actions there's all sorts of little things
Speaker 2: they do to try to, confuse you or they'll run
Speaker 2: an action one way and then guys will slip out
Speaker 2: of screens the. Next time there's relentless pace and motion
Speaker 2: in the. Half court they push the ball off of missus.
Speaker 2: Extremely well just very different Than that lakers team that
Speaker 2: was giving the Ball, to luca walking the ball up
Speaker 2: the court and doing the Same thing minnesota was doing
Speaker 2: on the, other end which is just finding a matchup
Speaker 2: that they wanted and then spacing the floor and playing
Speaker 2: one on. One basketball it's just a very different type.
Speaker 2: OF matchup i talked about this in the, series preview but,
Speaker 2: to me this was a Matchup where minnesota was going
Speaker 2: to have to defend with, their brain not with, their
Speaker 2: legs and where's that's where it's very different than what
Speaker 2: they did Against.
Speaker 3: The lakers the third quarter is a.
Speaker 2: Classic example you give up thirty six points and you
Speaker 2: lose a lesser Version Of steph Curry And buddy healed
Speaker 2: constantly in that quarter because you're not tracking all of
Speaker 2: the ball in, player movement because you're not as attentive
Speaker 2: as you need. To be the offensive rebounds are a
Speaker 2: big part. Of It golden state at eighteen offensive rebounds
Speaker 2: despite being an. Undersized team why. Is that It's because
Speaker 2: minnesota is in rotation dealing with this blender, of players
Speaker 2: and in those sorts of situations when you're tracking shooters
Speaker 2: off of screens and stuff, like that a lot of
Speaker 2: times the screeners will free up going towards. The Basket
Speaker 2: jimmy butler got seven offensive rebounds in. This Game, buddy
Speaker 2: heald he's running around. In circles he's not just getting
Speaker 2: open as, a shooter he's getting open as. A crasher
Speaker 2: because he's getting he's getting separated from. His defender And
Speaker 2: so minnesota will defend better over the course of. This
Speaker 2: series that's the Thing With golden state, in general is
Speaker 2: they tend to catch you really off guard early in
Speaker 2: a series with their ball in, player movement and you
Speaker 2: do get, somewhat Better but it's just a very different type.
Speaker 2: Of matchup and one of the things you Saw was.
Speaker 2: Steph too steph was able to break off some of,
Speaker 2: these taller skinnier Defenders from minnesota that are more like
Speaker 2: length athletes instead of like foot speed type of athletes
Speaker 2: that he can get leaning one way or another and
Speaker 2: get out of position so he can rise up and
Speaker 2: knock down. A shot i thought the dramatic difference in
Speaker 2: the matchup showed in a big Way from, minnesota today
Speaker 2: and they got a lot of work in front of
Speaker 2: them in order to clean some of that.
Speaker 3: Stuff. UP now.
Speaker 2: I want to let's go To the warrior shoutouts First
Speaker 2: and i'll circle Back to steph's Injury because steph's injury
Speaker 2: is kind of like a big picture thing. For Me
Speaker 2: So jimmy butler in the, second, half again the entire
Speaker 2: job changed as Soon As steph curry went out of.
Speaker 2: The game it was gonna become a defensive slug fest at,
Speaker 2: that point and you were gonna need other guys to
Speaker 2: step up and be. Really aggressive suddenly it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot more of like You need jimmy to operate
Speaker 2: as a score not just as a kind of a
Speaker 2: full crum in the middle of. The floor you're Gonna
Speaker 2: Need buddy heel to kind of like up the range
Speaker 2: of what he considers to be a good shot into
Speaker 2: a range that's a little bit further towards, bad shot
Speaker 2: because you're gonna need him to. Be aggressive you needed
Speaker 2: guys to step up and. Get Buckets jonathan kaminga coming
Speaker 2: In and jay generating seven points the way. HE did
Speaker 2: i know it doesn't seem, like much but those buckets
Speaker 2: felt important in. The Moment Like pat spencer coming in
Speaker 2: and hitting that spin move on To Kill alexander walker
Speaker 2: along the baseline and banking.
Speaker 3: That in did you get it was?
Speaker 2: So funny you could see Then Kile alexander walker was
Speaker 2: so frustrated that he gave up a bunt that he
Speaker 2: gave up a Bucket. To pat, but uh and then
Speaker 2: he hits, that, big sweeping driving hook down the lane
Speaker 2: Line Against. Rudy gobert just those two self created buckets
Speaker 2: in a situation, like that those are like found money
Speaker 2: in a game like this when your star. Goes Down
Speaker 2: gary payton hitting a couple of threes that. He hit
Speaker 2: there were just so many guys that, stepped Up Like
Speaker 2: draymond green went cold late in. The game him hitting
Speaker 2: those four threes early in the game and building that. Initial,
Speaker 2: advantage Like If steph curry goes out of the game and,
Speaker 2: it's tied you're not winning. This game the psychology of
Speaker 2: it is fundamentally different when you have. That Lead when
Speaker 2: steph leaves, the game it suddenly turns into a situation
Speaker 2: where you can Look at buddy and, it's, like, hey
Speaker 2: dude seven for nine nineteen, Is okay like we just
Speaker 2: need you to try to score as much as, you
Speaker 2: can but just make sure you're focused. On defense you
Speaker 2: can Go to jimmy and, be like it's okay if
Speaker 2: you take some of these. Tougher shots you can go
Speaker 2: to these guys and, be like it's not a. Big
Speaker 2: deal pat if you missed that sweeping hook down the.
Speaker 2: Lane line it removes the pressure from. THE situation i
Speaker 2: was literally thinking about it in the fourth Quarter when
Speaker 2: minnesota was making. Their run, i'm like they literally just
Speaker 2: need a couple of buckets and this game. Is over
Speaker 2: buddy hits a three on the, Left Wing jimmy butler
Speaker 2: hits a little leaning jump shot around.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 3: Elbow boom game.
Speaker 2: Is over and it's because they were able to build that,
Speaker 2: initial margin which in large part came down to the
Speaker 2: quality of their Defense And draymond green knocking down those
Speaker 2: threes early in. The game but like just a bunch
Speaker 2: of contributions down the line on both ends of, the
Speaker 2: floor just really really, impressive effort an organizational Win For,
Speaker 2: golden state a demonstration of the fact that you, don't win.
Speaker 2: YOU know i think part of this is just basketball
Speaker 2: culture and the way we talk about. The game and
Speaker 2: this is not Just a. Steff thing this Is a.
Speaker 2: Lebron thing I've seen lebron fans do this all, the, time,
Speaker 2: like oh he carried his team to, a championship he,
Speaker 2: did this he, did that and, IT'S like I think
Speaker 2: lebron's the greatest basketball player of. All time i'm not
Speaker 2: trying to say he didn't do, those things BUT if
Speaker 2: i looked back through, his championships it's like he won
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty because he had one of the greatest
Speaker 2: defenses that was, ever Assembled And anthony davis was playing
Speaker 2: at like a top, five level and he was surrounded
Speaker 2: By Like alex Caruso And Contavious colwell Pope And frank
Speaker 2: vogel was one of the best defensive coaches in the
Speaker 2: league at. THE time i go to, twenty sixteen it's The.
Speaker 2: J r smith hitting massive shots in the. Third Quarter
Speaker 2: It's kyrie irving hitting a, Game Winner It's kevin love
Speaker 2: getting big stops down. THE stretch i go to, you
Speaker 2: know you can go down the line through all of
Speaker 2: these big moments in, playoff history, and yeah there are
Speaker 2: stars at the tip of. The spear but basketball is a.
Speaker 2: Team sport it's an. Organizational sport it takes. Great coaching
Speaker 2: it takes a front office that is connected to the,
Speaker 2: coaching staff that understands the type of players that the coaching.
Speaker 2: Staff needs it requires personnel that compliments your star and
Speaker 2: both ends of. The like it is an intricate thing
Speaker 2: to put together a championship. Basketball team And the warriors
Speaker 2: have done it four times and it's because of down.
Speaker 2: The organization they have excellence at so many. Key POSITIONS
Speaker 2: and i just thought tonight was just a big statement in.
Speaker 2: That regard so what does this look like on the.
Speaker 2: Step front the beautiful thing about winning this particular game
Speaker 2: is you now have your goal completed for going on
Speaker 2: the Road. To minnesota you stole home. COURT advantage i
Speaker 2: don't Know That golden, state can, you know win the Series.
Speaker 2: WITHOUT steph i would find that, extremely unlikely even with their,
Speaker 2: defensive advantages even with the type of play that they
Speaker 2: got Out Of buddy Held And jimmy. Butler tonight It's
Speaker 2: just minnesota's a really good Team And steph curry, for
Speaker 2: ME like, i mentioned is the superstar that can solve
Speaker 2: the unsolvable problems that a. Series presents think of it
Speaker 2: at a real. Basic level there's only so much you
Speaker 2: can do with a. Good coach there's only so much
Speaker 2: you can do with a great. Defensive, player ultimately there
Speaker 2: are so many situations that present themselves in a playoff
Speaker 2: series where only the superhero can conquer. The problem AND
Speaker 2: so i have a hard time believing they can win
Speaker 2: this Series. Without steph so if we talk, about it
Speaker 2: if we talk, it through what is the Pathway for
Speaker 2: steph to return in this series in a Way Where
Speaker 2: golden state has a legitimate chance to. Win well game
Speaker 2: two Is, on Thursday and game three Is, on Saturday
Speaker 2: and game four Is, on Monday and game five Is.
Speaker 2: On wednesday they're going every, Other day so it's going
Speaker 2: to be really tough To bring steph back at some
Speaker 2: point during that stretch. Of games but if you can
Speaker 2: somehow steal one Game In golden state on the strength
Speaker 2: of your home Crowd And jimmy butler having a massive
Speaker 2: Night And buddy hial having a massive night and a
Speaker 2: few role players stepping up in a, big way and
Speaker 2: you can take it too two Back. To minnesota Even
Speaker 2: if minnesota wins. That game you literally have three full
Speaker 2: days Off before game six on, the eighteenth which Is.
Speaker 2: A sunday so there is a version of this where
Speaker 2: you could go three to two Back To, golden State
Speaker 2: leave steph at. Home rehabbing all he does is round
Speaker 2: the clock do what he needs to do to. Get
Speaker 2: healthy you could give him a solid twelve days to rest,
Speaker 2: that hamstring and that might still not, be ENOUGH but
Speaker 2: i see that as like a relatively reasonable possibility that
Speaker 2: in almost Two weeks steph could rehab, the injury come
Speaker 2: Back on sunday In a game Six In. Golden state
Speaker 2: then you go on the Road in game Seven. To,
Speaker 2: minnesota obviously you have the Advantage of minnesota not having
Speaker 2: had To guard steph to that point in, the series
Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of an advantage of them
Speaker 2: being caught off guard in, That respect, but again it's
Speaker 2: a thin path. For me just hamstrings are. So finicky.
Speaker 2: It's WEIRD like i. LEFT this I left game one
Speaker 2: feeling very STRONGLY that i was on the right side
Speaker 2: of things in terms of my. Series prediction but THEN
Speaker 2: now i leave the game Feeling Like golden state has
Speaker 2: a very slim chance to win, the series because that's
Speaker 2: just the unfortunate part Of That steph. Curry injury On the,
Speaker 2: wolves front several, SPECIFIC things i thought that they were
Speaker 2: a bit more attentive in their off ball defense in the.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, in particular the Shots That golden state hit
Speaker 2: at that point in the game were much more geared
Speaker 2: towards their, lesser shooters and even the shot that like
Speaker 2: the Shots that buddy, was hitting there was a couple
Speaker 2: open ones that. He got the Ones that buddies was
Speaker 2: hitting were rushed and contested in a lot. Of situations
Speaker 2: and so there the, pathway is you need to polish
Speaker 2: up your off ball defense from game. To game it's
Speaker 2: not gonna. Happen overnight there's a lot of habits that
Speaker 2: you got to. Pick, Up again like we, talked about
Speaker 2: it's more of a. Mental challenge it'll take time for
Speaker 2: them to polish those. Things up but if you get
Speaker 2: more attentive on off ball defense over the course of,
Speaker 2: the series and then the big thing is going to
Speaker 2: be on the. Offensive End anthony Edwards And julius randall
Speaker 2: and their decision making in the middle of.
Speaker 3: The, floor like EVEN though i.
Speaker 2: Got going in the, second half still was a steady
Speaker 2: diet of him forcing the issue into the paint and
Speaker 2: trying to make everything happen by himself as a score
Speaker 2: once again only to. Assist tonight if you look back
Speaker 2: to the job he Did, against la there's a pretty
Speaker 2: strong correlation between his playmaking and the team being able.
Speaker 2: To score and so it's going to be big on
Speaker 2: those guys solving the mental challenge in the, half court
Speaker 2: making the right decisions in the middle of the floor
Speaker 2: to try to get those quality catch and. Shoot opportunities
Speaker 2: like there was a lot of talk About the wolves
Speaker 2: shooting in this. PARTICULAR game i did not see it
Speaker 2: as an example of just guys. Missing shots that's not
Speaker 2: what it looked like. To me, to me it had
Speaker 2: much more of a vibe where you've got to Give
Speaker 2: the warriors credit for rushing them off the Line. The
Speaker 2: Lakers the lakers Game in, game five there was a
Speaker 2: whole lot of just wide open shots that they were
Speaker 2: hitting or missing that were on these kickouts and offensive
Speaker 2: rebounds were like literally no one's even in. THE frame
Speaker 2: I Thought golden state did a great job in this
Speaker 2: game Of rushing minnesota off the line and actually playing
Speaker 2: them into. Those misses there's a huge difference between guys
Speaker 2: are just missing shots and you're actually causing them to.
Speaker 2: Miss shots and so in order to generate better three,
Speaker 2: point shooting you have to generate better quality three. Point
Speaker 2: shots in order to generate better quality three, point shots
Speaker 2: you need your decision makers to make better decisions in
Speaker 2: the middle of. THE floor i Just checked synergy to
Speaker 2: try to get some information on the percentage of their
Speaker 2: shots that were guarded. Or unguarded synergy still, hasn't updated
Speaker 2: so when we get over to playback, Later tonight i'll
Speaker 2: start to pull some of the specific data that came
Speaker 2: out of game one to see if there's anything to.
Speaker 2: Learn there but the other piece of it two is
Speaker 2: if you get better playing defense and you get more
Speaker 2: stops by managing the off, ball action more, or better
Speaker 2: you can get yourself in a situation where you're playing in,
Speaker 2: transition more which could be a big way to get.
Speaker 2: Them going, all right let's Move On indiana cleveland the
Speaker 2: other injury bummer game from Tonight As, DeAndre Hunter, evan
Speaker 2: Mobley And. Darius garland we're all out of uniform For The.
Speaker 2: CLEVELAND cap i Talked About tyree Saliburton after game one
Speaker 2: in him being relentless was THE word i used with
Speaker 2: his advantage, hunting essentially like every single time that you
Speaker 2: leave somebody open on a, slip on like in nail
Speaker 2: help uh, low man help foot in, the paint, this
Speaker 2: that whatever, It is he's gonna make the pass every.
Speaker 2: Single TIME and i think relentless is basically the theme
Speaker 2: word for this entire. Basketball team they literally never stop coming,
Speaker 2: at you no matter How well, cleveland played no matter
Speaker 2: how big of a lead, they took no matter how
Speaker 2: many times they took. The lead cleveland took two separate twenty,
Speaker 2: point leads not including the big one they had late in.
Speaker 3: The game.
Speaker 2: But no, matter what you score to go, up twenty
Speaker 2: you score to go up, seven late they're taking the
Speaker 2: ball out of. The net they're quickly, inbounding it and
Speaker 2: they're running it down your throat every. Single time no.
Speaker 2: Matter what if they get stopped, in transition they're gonna
Speaker 2: back it out and they're gonna run a bunch of world.
Speaker 2: Win action in the, half court hunt, those advantages try
Speaker 2: to get a.
Speaker 3: Good look if, they miss they're gonna crash the.
Speaker 2: Offensive glass Look At Aaron neie smith at the end of,
Speaker 2: this game just over and over and, over again crashing the.
Speaker 2: Offensive glass if you once they get, a bucket they're
Speaker 2: just gonna immediately start picking you up full court and
Speaker 2: making everything a pain in. The ass in the, back
Speaker 2: court try to rush you into a mistake so they
Speaker 2: can run down the. Floor again and no matter how
Speaker 2: many times you have a positive sequence where you make
Speaker 2: three four plays in, a row they're waiting on you.
Speaker 2: To relax they're counting on you. To relax. It's all
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how well. You execute you can be
Speaker 2: up seven in the. Final minute they've won that game twice.
Speaker 2: This year more ball pressure forcing multiple turnovers in the.
Speaker 2: Final minute One on strus on, an inbounds One On
Speaker 2: donovan mitchell stepping through An elbowing nesmith in, the Face
Speaker 2: Another nie smith wild crash on an offensive rebound off
Speaker 2: of a miss free throw where he dunks It Over
Speaker 2: donovan mitchell and throws him into. The ground another blow
Speaker 2: Of a haliburton drive right to the basket for, a
Speaker 2: layup quickly scoring on an out of bound sequence out of,
Speaker 2: A timeout another offensive rebound TapouT on a free Throw From.
Speaker 2: Miles Turner Another tyreese haliburton step back three at the
Speaker 2: top of the key to win. The game they literally
Speaker 2: never stopped coming at you in every facet of. The
Speaker 2: game they weaponize their speed in every facet of. The
Speaker 2: game it really. Is remarkable that's how they keep. Coming
Speaker 2: back that's why they're The. Comeback kings they just count
Speaker 2: on you eventually letting go of. The rope they know
Speaker 2: you'll only do a good job for a portion of
Speaker 2: the game and that they'll be able. To Capitalize the
Speaker 2: caves did a good job Of defending indiana in the.
Speaker 2: First quarter brought a lot, more pressure a lot more
Speaker 2: attentiveness to. THOSE advantages i was talking about it, first
Speaker 2: shift before the first. Time out they were a, little
Speaker 2: SLOPPY as I think indiana went up nine, to two
Speaker 2: and they give up some easy ones but for the
Speaker 2: rest of the first quarter they were really, really sharp
Speaker 2: And then indiana scored three straight quarter of at least thirty.
Speaker 3: Four Points.
Speaker 2: Tyrs alberton in the, first half he looked like a
Speaker 2: Ghost of haliburton's past in a lot, of ways kind
Speaker 2: of like in last year in, the playoffs where he'd
Speaker 2: have these bizarrely. Passive GAMES but i thought he woke
Speaker 2: up and was great after that. First quarter he had
Speaker 2: eleven six and three just in the, second half made
Speaker 2: two massive plays in the final minute that stole the
Speaker 2: game as.
Speaker 3: A score.
Speaker 2: Cleveland asked for. It too they started taking a victory
Speaker 2: lap early in, the game which again it's like you
Speaker 2: think somebody would have learned After what indiana has done,
Speaker 2: all season but they start chanting Overrated.
Speaker 3: At Halliburton donovan mitch.
Speaker 2: Was, like everybody chill out, like this this is a,
Speaker 2: terrible idea and he burned him. For it this was
Speaker 2: a stat from My Friend carson Breber From. Nerds sage
Speaker 2: he tweeted it out during. The Game tyres haliburton is
Speaker 2: now ten for eleven on shots to tie or take
Speaker 2: the lead in the final two minutes of games.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 2: Year unbelievable Clutch Player. Tyris aliburton it's been so much
Speaker 2: fun seeing him healthy again because it just looks like
Speaker 2: a different guy than the guy we saw at the
Speaker 2: tail end of. Last Season Aaron nie smith, unbelievable game
Speaker 2: a lot of quality defensive possessions On, tyjer rome who
Speaker 2: was just in jail. All night we'll talk about that in.
Speaker 2: A minute he had two massive threes in the. Third
Speaker 2: quarter cavs went, up twenty had a great, defensive possession
Speaker 2: and he just hits like a bailout bomb out of
Speaker 2: the left corner over a. Great contest hits a transition
Speaker 2: three right before the end of the third quarter that
Speaker 2: cut the lead down. To fourteen completely changed the feel of,
Speaker 2: the game the relentless crashing of the. Offensive glass you
Speaker 2: guys saw the dunk on the. Free throw he had
Speaker 2: another One On donovan mitchell where he just kind of
Speaker 2: did a swim move on him coming off of the,
Speaker 2: left wing got an easy little bank shot. Put back,
Speaker 2: you know one of the things that teams will do
Speaker 2: Against the pacers is they'll, be like, all right, You
Speaker 2: Know nie smith is our best option to hide an
Speaker 2: offensive player that we need to, give, rest right so
Speaker 2: You Hide donovan mitchell there and hopes that he'll get
Speaker 2: to take. It, easy well one of the ways you
Speaker 2: can make sure he doesn't get to take it easy
Speaker 2: is relentlessly crashing the. Offensive glass He Wore donovan. Mitch
Speaker 2: there he made it So that donovan could. Not Rest
Speaker 2: ben mathern unbelievable second half in, this game straight up,
Speaker 2: rim pressure getting downhill and ball Screens Against, jared allen
Speaker 2: drawn fouls and finishing, off him finishing against him at,
Speaker 2: the rim crashing the offensive. Glass himself running. In transition
Speaker 2: he had a couple of big transition leak. Out Buckets
Speaker 2: ben mathurin was a huge scoring pop from in. This
Speaker 2: Game miles turner spacing not just at the three, point
Speaker 2: line but also hit a bunch of those little short
Speaker 2: role kind of like it's like, mid range short range
Speaker 2: spacing type, of shots you, Know how like we see
Speaker 2: a bunch of different versions of this around. The league
Speaker 2: like Guys like Hartenstein And jared allen do it with
Speaker 2: like little, short Floaters But miles turner can like easily
Speaker 2: rise up into a little twelve thirteen foot jump shot
Speaker 2: and knock it down at a. High clip he was
Speaker 2: spacing the floor in. That way he was beating switches
Speaker 2: out of ball screens in the. Fourth quarter twice in the,
Speaker 2: fourth Quarter the cavs switched the, ball screen he Posted
Speaker 2: Up max struce and got an. Easy bucket he Posted
Speaker 2: Up isaac corro and got an easy bucket on this
Speaker 2: kind of like nifty little really short range ball screen
Speaker 2: where he just sealed the coorra right underneath. The basket
Speaker 2: and then his drop coverage Defense On. TY jerome, I
Speaker 2: Like ti jerome is having a, nightmare series and we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about it in, a second but like
Speaker 2: a big part of That Is. Miles turner he is
Speaker 2: putting on a drop coverage clinic in the sense that
Speaker 2: he's mixing up at the level and a little bit
Speaker 2: further back types. Of coverages He's Catching ti jerome off.
Speaker 2: Guard constantly one of the THINGS that I Think jared
Speaker 2: allen has figured out Is That ti jerome prefers to take.
Speaker 2: The floater and this is just this IS The nba
Speaker 2: playoffs in, a, Nutshell Right Like ti drome was the
Speaker 2: best floater shooter in the entire league, this season sixty
Speaker 2: two percent.
Speaker 3: On him in the.
Speaker 2: Regular season he was six for eleven in the first Round,
Speaker 2: against miami but he's not the guy that's going to
Speaker 2: go to the rim every. Single Time And miles turner,
Speaker 2: has clearly through the coaching staff or through his, own
Speaker 2: tape whatever it is that, He's watching he's just been
Speaker 2: on top of that floater the, entire series just Stunting At,
Speaker 2: ti jerome attacking, the pocket preventing him from comfortably rising into.
Speaker 2: That floater he's bumped him on his high drop possessions
Speaker 2: and kept him from turning. The corner turner's just done
Speaker 2: a great job Defensively On ty jerome and it's a
Speaker 2: huge part of how They've held cleveland's offense under control
Speaker 2: every time that they've needed to. Get, stops again they
Speaker 2: got a bunch of stops when they. Needed to in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of, this game Held the cavs twenty
Speaker 2: one points after getting lit up for the first. Three
Speaker 2: quarters miles Was Fantastic ti. JEROME again i want To
Speaker 2: credit turner in his drop, coverage defense but he's five
Speaker 2: for sixteen on floaters now in. This series he's leaving
Speaker 2: his three point shots way short off the front of
Speaker 2: the rim every. Single time seems like he's got the
Speaker 2: full blown. Yips now and that's really tough Because the
Speaker 2: caves desperately need Him With darius, garland out and he
Speaker 2: just hasn't been. GOOD enough i feel Terrible for. Cavs
Speaker 2: fans they had such an. AWESOME season i was actually
Speaker 2: really starting to believe in in that first round series
Speaker 2: with the level they were, reaching offensively and then you
Speaker 2: lose three of your top six players before game two
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 3: Second round.
Speaker 2: INDIANA'S great i picked them to win multiple games in
Speaker 2: this series even If the calves are at. FULL strength
Speaker 2: I Assume darius garland and everyone would be ready. To
Speaker 2: go But the calves just have no chance to win
Speaker 2: this series as undermanned as. They are and the big
Speaker 2: disappointment has been. Their defense some of it is. The
Speaker 2: injuries they've defended Better with mobley on the floor in.
Speaker 2: The series mobile is the defensive player of, the Year
Speaker 2: but indiana has looked entirely too comfortable through the first.
Speaker 2: Two games they've logged an offensive rating over one hundred,
Speaker 2: and twenty AND so i just Think the calves need
Speaker 2: to be operating at full tilt in order to win
Speaker 2: for the next, five games and it just seems extremely
Speaker 2: unlikely that they're going to be able to pull. That,
Speaker 2: off so in, Other Words tyre saliburton in many ways
Speaker 2: put this series into serious danger of being over with
Speaker 2: that shot that he. Hit tonight, all right let's take
Speaker 2: about ten minutes of questions before we head over. To
Speaker 2: playback we're Gonna have jackson Come.
Speaker 3: On state let's.
Speaker 4: Do it let's do some male bag questions.
Speaker 5: First up we're gonna start with some questions About the,
Speaker 5: warrior series and we'll do something About.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 5: PACERS first i put a poll in the chat asking
Speaker 5: the chat When should steph come back game, four earlier,
Speaker 5: game five. Or later seventy three percent of the chat
Speaker 5: said game, four earlier which. IS interesting, I mean i
Speaker 5: think that's both optimistic as well as, you, know HOPEFUL
Speaker 5: but i think it's it's gonna. BE tough i, would
Speaker 5: say as someone who has also had a hamstring, injury
Speaker 5: before to come back in, six days.
Speaker 3: Did you re?
Speaker 5: INJURY yours i just it's just IMPOSSIBLE that i was,
Speaker 5: like YOU and i think like most people just didn't
Speaker 5: give it the. Requisite rest so it's NOT like i
Speaker 5: reinjured it, so bad but it just didn't. Heal quickly
Speaker 5: it just didn't. Heal, quickly, yeah dude. It's brutal it's
Speaker 5: it's such a.
Speaker 2: Complicated PROCESS and i think THAT'S where i feel like it's,
Speaker 2: overly optimistic because like you got to think. Big picture
Speaker 2: there's no point In beating Minnesota if STEP's not going
Speaker 2: to be good for the rest of.
Speaker 3: The playoff.
Speaker 2: That's true so your your chance is One that steph's
Speaker 2: hamstring tear is. Extremely MILD now i am somewhat encouraged
Speaker 2: by the idea that it's going to, be mild simply
Speaker 2: because he gave out a couple of he gave out.
Speaker 3: A bucket after he heard he gave out.
Speaker 2: A bucket he got that little floater that he put
Speaker 2: it off the front of, the rim and he was
Speaker 2: coming off of ball screens and pitching It to draymond
Speaker 2: and still. Generating advantages and he wasn't, moving good but he,
Speaker 2: Was moving and so that leaves me somewhat encouraged that
Speaker 2: it was probably a somewhat. Mild strain so the question
Speaker 2: Is can steph recover from a mild strain in. TWELVE
Speaker 2: days i do think. HE can i don't think he
Speaker 2: can cover from a mild strain in, nine days which
Speaker 2: is what you would need to bring him back in. Game,
Speaker 2: five also it's like think. Of it think of it.
Speaker 3: This way.
Speaker 2: Let's Say golden state steels one of, those games the
Speaker 2: Ones In, golden state so it's two to two going Back.
Speaker 2: To minnesota that's a, really big, really important really physical
Speaker 2: game that would be really tough to just Toss A
Speaker 2: steph curry in that in that sort. Of situation whereas,
Speaker 2: GAME six i feel like you could play step, shorter
Speaker 2: bursts playing like thirty minutes and probably get that job
Speaker 2: done because of how much they can defend in front
Speaker 2: of their home crowd and stuff. Like THAT so i
Speaker 2: mean a lot of it's going to be by ear,
Speaker 2: Right guys like If If golden state loses each of
Speaker 2: the next, three games they probably Don't bring steph back
Speaker 2: cause there's just no point in having him tear his
Speaker 2: hamstring trying to come back from a three to one
Speaker 2: deficit and be put in a situation where he's out
Speaker 2: for two months in, the summer or, god forbid he
Speaker 2: needs some kind. Of SURGERY so i think it's going
Speaker 2: to be a lot of like reading the room and
Speaker 2: seeing how, It goes like if they what if they
Speaker 2: go three, To one like what if they win both
Speaker 2: Games In golden State, without steph they may decide to
Speaker 2: literally see if they can win the series. Without him
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of different angles this. Can go
Speaker 2: and it's got to be day to Day how, steph feeling,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of it's going to be kind
Speaker 2: of read and react on the information day.
Speaker 5: To day and that is as of Ten pm, pacific
Speaker 5: time the latest reporting is that he is going to
Speaker 5: GET an.
Speaker 4: Mri Tomorrow steve carr.
Speaker 5: Said they're playing on him being day, to day, quote
Speaker 5: unquote and that they are not expecting Him for, game two,
Speaker 5: which is, you know in line with everything.
Speaker 3: We're expecting it would be really dumb to play him.
Speaker 3: In games there's.
Speaker 5: No, way yeah question about, you Know the warriors going
Speaker 5: Forward Without steph curry in the games that they will be.
Speaker 5: Without him, who first who would be your starting five
Speaker 5: For the warriors in Game Withou Stuph.
Speaker 2: Curry man, THAT'S interesting i think that so we Think
Speaker 2: of buddy as the obvious Replacement for steph in the,
Speaker 2: starting lineup even though he was already in the. Starting
Speaker 2: lineup he slots into that two. Guard spot he's there
Speaker 2: Next to PODS or i guess he's the point next.
Speaker 3: TO pods.
Speaker 2: I actually thought That the warriors did a good job
Speaker 2: of Contending with minnesota with their speed rather than with.
Speaker 2: Their SIZE so i THINK that i would PROBABLY consider.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 2: Consider kaminga and, HERE'S why i hear, me out just
Speaker 2: pitch this hair brained idea house money, game, two right
Speaker 2: what if you can find a way to get coming
Speaker 2: into some kind of rhythm in game two and that
Speaker 2: ends up being something that you can ride In game korean?
Speaker 2: Game four, so like what if you started him and
Speaker 2: gave him, more opportunity basically with the idea of being
Speaker 2: if we can build some sort of Rhythm with kaminga in,
Speaker 2: this game it could be the difference between us being
Speaker 2: able to win our games Back In golden state. Or
Speaker 2: not there's other directions they. COULD go, I Mean moses
Speaker 2: moody was a nightmare. OFFENSIVELY tonight i didn't hate their big.
Speaker 2: Looks tonight that's another, Thing TOO like I Thought kevon
Speaker 2: looney battled, Pretty well so like there's a version of
Speaker 2: this where they could go. Big TOO but I think
Speaker 2: i would Go. With kminga what?
Speaker 5: ABOUT you i had not Even Considered jonathan kaminga Starting
Speaker 5: because i'm so down on him even though he had
Speaker 5: he had a pretty good, stretch, tonight actually but that
Speaker 5: is an. INTERESTING one i do think that trying to
Speaker 5: see if you can get him in a rhythm in
Speaker 5: a game that is you're playing with house money is a.
Speaker 5: GOOD idea i, also think as we've talked, about, many
Speaker 5: many many, Many Times jonathan, kiminga operates it's way way
Speaker 5: better when he has physical, athletic mismatches and so trying
Speaker 5: to align Him In mike connley minutes is not the.
Speaker 4: Worst idea not that.
Speaker 5: YOU'RE like i spend your whole offensive philosophy Around, getting kumingo,
Speaker 5: you know possessions On with conley, guarding him but it
Speaker 5: is a place, where it's, you know definitely the most
Speaker 5: obvious physical mismatch that he would have Against any.
Speaker 4: Timbleves PLAYER so i think it's an interesting and.
Speaker 2: Interesting idea he kind of figured out some off ball.
Speaker 2: Utility tonight he hit it, that THREE which i was
Speaker 2: actually a really important both the business back to.
Speaker 4: Back Buggets the draymond's. Baseline, drive yeah the.
Speaker 3: Baseline.
Speaker 2: Drive, yeah well and that's the other. Thing too Draymond
Speaker 2: and jimmy both will throw those baseline drives and they're
Speaker 2: constantly looking for cutters flashing in front of, the rim
Speaker 2: and like there's there's like some legitimate kind of like
Speaker 2: spacing value with him as like a cutter in those
Speaker 2: sorts of situations and he can find those Runways, Because
Speaker 2: minnesota minnesota is just so bad and they're off there
Speaker 2: terrible and it and you're right like that that him
Speaker 2: and the starting lineup could be a way to try
Speaker 2: to tie Him To mike.
Speaker 4: Conley's minutes, that's interesting another sort of.
Speaker 5: Rotation question why do You think quentin Posts gudzero runta
Speaker 5: and do you think he's also an option to get maybe,
Speaker 5: not start but maybe startet get some sort of minutes
Speaker 5: in the rest of The series with, THAT stuff.
Speaker 2: I think it's part of just like The Momentum kevon
Speaker 2: looney had after a Really nice, game seven also just
Speaker 2: the Idea that minnesota presents a threat as an offensive
Speaker 2: rebounding team as we saw in the In the.
Speaker 3: Lakers series, BUT.
Speaker 2: Like i think it's GONNA be i think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot Of Like steve kerr doing what he,
Speaker 2: Did TONIGHT like i thought That Stan van gundy did
Speaker 2: a really, nice job but kind of like Explaining How
Speaker 2: steve kerr has this unique trust for the players down.
Speaker 2: As roster we talked about this at the top of,
Speaker 2: the show but there is something to be said about
Speaker 2: the organizational approach to finding, smart players and the key
Speaker 2: there is they can count on these guys to come
Speaker 2: in and do a job within the defensive game plan
Speaker 2: like half. The battle then that's half the Issue. With
Speaker 2: kaminga you want, to know you want to know Why
Speaker 2: kaming it. Doesn't play it has way more to do
Speaker 2: with the Fact that kerr just doesn't trust him to
Speaker 2: execute the, game plan and he's kind of the odd
Speaker 2: man out in the sense that so many of these
Speaker 2: guys ARE Undrafted g league type of dudes That the
Speaker 2: warriors scouting department has identified AS high iq players that
Speaker 2: they can fit into, their System whereas kaminga.
Speaker 3: Is a textbook.
Speaker 2: Lottery pick it's like he was picked, for upside, you
Speaker 2: know not for him specifically fitting. The culture and so
Speaker 2: that that's where you see those issues. Taking place but
Speaker 2: moving forward in, the series Whether It's, quinton post Whether It's,
Speaker 2: key santos Whether It's, pat spencer regardless of who, It
Speaker 2: is kaminga, AS well i think falls into. This group
Speaker 2: kerr is going to be doing a lot of like here's,
Speaker 2: your chance show me what you got and quick hooks,
Speaker 2: with guys, AND like i think you're Gonna see pods play.
Speaker 2: Big minutes You'll see draymond play. Big minutes You'll see
Speaker 2: buddy play, Big minutes You'll play jimmy play, big MINUTES
Speaker 2: and i think You'll see gary play. Big minutes but
Speaker 2: the rest, of those you know that the rest of
Speaker 2: that like kind of sixty seventy minutes that, ARE available
Speaker 2: i think are going to be split kind of just
Speaker 2: between who's playing well in that. GIVEN night I think
Speaker 2: i think we could see an astronomical amount of. DIFFERENT
Speaker 2: lineups i think this could be the series where you
Speaker 2: see the most different lineups played in.
Speaker 5: THE history, i mean they already did a lot, to
Speaker 5: THAT and i think that instilling, that trust, you know
Speaker 5: organizationally down Definitely from steve down is really. Really Beneficially
Speaker 5: key santo's got run today before kuminga super, short shift
Speaker 5: didn't get back in, the game and that's not a
Speaker 5: not issue for the roster and the team chemistry as
Speaker 5: a whole because of the sort of that culture that
Speaker 5: they've that.
Speaker 4: They've instilled that's a.
Speaker 5: Great point let's move take a couple questions about the,
Speaker 5: other series and then we can head over. To playback,
Speaker 5: first one why do you think people seem to Not
Speaker 5: Like tyre's?
Speaker 4: Halliburn's play, you.
Speaker 5: Know he got the most overrated, player obviously when the
Speaker 5: evidence seems to show that he is someone who is happening,
Speaker 5: playoff success can lead a team to the, Conference finals
Speaker 5: he's good in, the clutch. Impacts winning what is sort
Speaker 5: of the issue around the Perception Of.
Speaker 2: Tyre's, HALIBURTON so, I uh i think that most basketball
Speaker 2: junkies out There Like tyrese halliburton from what at least
Speaker 2: FROM what i can tell and from, my perspective in
Speaker 2: the sense that they can see his value in what
Speaker 2: he does. REALLY well i THINK among nba players he's
Speaker 2: just a. Shit TALKER like i don't think it's any
Speaker 2: more complicated. Than that like he, is good and he kicks,
Speaker 2: your ass and he talks a bunch, of SHIT and
Speaker 2: i think it just rubs everybody the. Wrong WAY and i,
Speaker 2: THINK also i do think that there's such a THING
Speaker 2: as i think that there are a good CHUNK of
Speaker 2: nba players who see the game through the lens of what.
Speaker 3: They DO.
Speaker 2: And i, THINK this i think you see a lot
Speaker 2: of manifestations of this around, the league where like stars
Speaker 2: will like certain types of role players but dislike other
Speaker 2: types of players because they kind of like fit their own, basketball,
Speaker 2: Worldview right like like how many times have we seen
Speaker 2: you remember with Like ragon rondo On the lakers, for
Speaker 2: ins this is a. Great example, we're like we're watching
Speaker 2: from the sidelines and, we're like why the Hell is
Speaker 2: rayjon getting all these Minutes Over. Alex cruso but, it's
Speaker 2: like so the guys in that, locker room They're Like
Speaker 2: ray jehan's. A genius, you know we're gonna like, He's
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna. Guy this he's our point Guard due
Speaker 2: lebron was always obsessed with backup playmaking in that phase of,
Speaker 2: his career if you. Remember, correctly, so like it just
Speaker 2: is one of those THINGS where i think there are
Speaker 2: a lot of players in the league that struggle To
Speaker 2: see tyresee's value because he's such a different kind of player.
Speaker 2: Than EVERYBODY, Like i by, the way there's some of This.
Speaker 2: With jokic there's some of This, With JOKIC LIKE i
Speaker 2: i feel like there are a lot. OF players i
Speaker 2: think now everyone's kind Of accepted jokic as the obvious
Speaker 2: ass kicker that, He is but there was like a
Speaker 2: like in that twenty, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four
Speaker 2: there were a lot of years there where it seemed
Speaker 2: like some of the players around the league didn't quite
Speaker 2: have the appreciation For what, jokic did just because he
Speaker 2: was So. Different tyresee you combine it with him just
Speaker 2: being a just, a HAWKER and i think it just
Speaker 2: rubs everybody the wrong way among, his PEERS and i
Speaker 2: think that's why he gets voted.
Speaker 5: Like, THAT yeah i also think there's not that anyone
Speaker 5: would be able to admit this or even be conscious
Speaker 5: of don't necessarily there's sort of a factor with him And,
Speaker 5: with jokic they're Just slightly they're just a little. Bit
Speaker 5: dorky they're not The Classic anthony edwards bulldog pro athlete.
Speaker 5: Personality TYPE and i think to, your point it just
Speaker 5: even if it's not rubbing people the, wrong way it's
Speaker 5: that they're it's not what they're sort of, accustomed to
Speaker 5: what they these players envision the best versions of themselves
Speaker 5: are the best versions OF an nba basketball player as an.
Speaker 4: Idea would look and SOUND like i think a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, you're right that's such a great point because
Speaker 2: it's like it extends to everything stylistically, as well like
Speaker 2: his nineteen, points TONIGHT and i thought he was excellent.
Speaker 2: Like that it's not the kind of thing that's going
Speaker 2: to show up in thirty thirty five. Point games it's
Speaker 2: not going to show up with him dunking on. Your
Speaker 2: head although he's a better ATHLETE than i think he gets.
Speaker 2: Credit for he's got kind of a funky set shot
Speaker 2: in terms of his, jun shot although he gets more
Speaker 2: he gets more lyft than you'd think on some of
Speaker 2: his movement off the. Dribble shots But like tyrese is
Speaker 2: just a very unorthodox player and in almost every way
Speaker 2: on and off. The COURT and i think that's a
Speaker 2: big part, of it.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent, all right let's do one more. Question here
Speaker 4: we'll go over.
Speaker 5: To playback do you Think this pacers team is better than,
Speaker 5: last year just, you know largely the. Same roster do
Speaker 5: you Think the pacers team? Is better and, if so
Speaker 5: do you think they Can beat boston?
Speaker 4: Next round if it Would.
Speaker 2: BE boston i think they are substantially better than that,
Speaker 2: last YEAR and i think that they have a legitimate
Speaker 2: chance To beat boston in a way that they didn't.
Speaker 3: Last year.
Speaker 2: The first piece of It Is. Tyres haliburton tyres is
Speaker 2: just playing at a substantially higher level than he did.
Speaker 2: Last year we talked about This With steph curry in
Speaker 2: the in the earlier segments of. The show but playoff
Speaker 2: series present. Unsolvable problems it's kind of like the beating, Switches,
Speaker 2: thing like at a, certain point you got to have
Speaker 2: a guy that can go one on one against a
Speaker 2: good defender and create a great shot and over and,
Speaker 2: over again whether it was Him Cooking jared Allen in
Speaker 2: game One, in switches or whether it's Him cooking Giannis
Speaker 2: in game Six or game five Of the. Bucks, series
Speaker 2: like he just has an upside as a switch beater
Speaker 2: in this playoff run that he did not have. LAST
Speaker 2: year i think that's the, big difference and that is the.
Speaker 2: Ceiling Razor when indiana got presented with the unsolvable problem
Speaker 2: That was boston tightening the screws at the end of games,
Speaker 2: last year he wasn't able to. Overcome that but, THIS
Speaker 2: year i think he's in a better position to, do
Speaker 2: so then there's just some kind of incremental improvement down.
Speaker 2: The Roster BEN mathurin i think has, been great and
Speaker 2: he's his athleticism has been a big upside in this
Speaker 2: like super physical. PLAYOFF environment i thought he was a
Speaker 2: huge part of their second half. Comeback Tonight Aaron ne
Speaker 2: smith has just gotten like ten percent better, at everything
Speaker 2: and that has made a. Big difference like he's a
Speaker 2: more of a, knockdown shooter he's better. Attacking closeouts there
Speaker 2: we can go down, the roster BUT like, i mean
Speaker 2: there's just so many Guys Like. Miles turner like there's
Speaker 2: been so much talk about whether or Not the pacers
Speaker 2: would re Up With, miles turner whether or not he'd
Speaker 2: be a. Free agent, to me he's such a core
Speaker 2: part of what Makes the pacers great on both ends of.
Speaker 2: THE floor i don't see how they can move On From.
Speaker 2: Miles TURNER like i understand you might have to make
Speaker 2: a really tough, decision financially and that may be, the
Speaker 2: case but like if you can somehow, retain him you
Speaker 2: got to. Retain him he's just. So important but as
Speaker 2: a team they're just kind of incrementally better down the
Speaker 2: roster And then tyree's has a, superstar upside and that
Speaker 2: to me is all it takes to make them a
Speaker 2: legitimate championship threat in a way that they weren't in.
Speaker 5: Years, PAST yeah i also think that we probably underestimated
Speaker 5: as a collective be, you know it's, relevant now especially With.
Speaker 5: Top curry the hamstring Injury That tyres haliburton had.
Speaker 4: Last season he.
Speaker 5: He, you know by the time the playoffs, came back
Speaker 5: it felt like he was more or less back to pre,
Speaker 5: injury yourself but it's probably fair to say he was
Speaker 5: at eighty, five percent maybe, ninety eight, eighty percent maybe
Speaker 5: something in that sort, of range and that's going to
Speaker 5: make it specifically tough to. BEAT switches I would i
Speaker 5: would argue it's it's probably evidence as the fact that
Speaker 5: he's able to, you know Blow by giannis in the
Speaker 5: clutch moment and get major separation thing for a game.
Speaker 5: Winner tonight he looks very healthy and very, very good
Speaker 5: and that's, you know important to remember as we're thinking
Speaker 5: About up curry's. Come Back tyre's halliburton took. Six months
Speaker 5: not that, you know, It's different every situation, is different.
Speaker 5: Person's different he took functionally six months to get back
Speaker 5: to one.
Speaker 2: Hundred, percent yeah his was a more severe, handstring injury,
Speaker 2: but yeah the point, still stands, which is like it
Speaker 2: there's also a, Trust, element, LIKE dude i had a
Speaker 2: foot Injury in juco where for an, entire semester all
Speaker 2: of non, CONFERENCE play i was a shell of MYSELF
Speaker 2: because i didn't trust my ability to plant, that foot,
Speaker 2: and like and it just it causes you to. Play
Speaker 2: passively it causes you to kind of hold like fifteen
Speaker 2: percent of your intensity. And RESERVE and i think that
Speaker 2: there's an important element, to, where Like if steph doesn't
Speaker 2: feel comfortable really pushing off, that leg it's. A problem
Speaker 2: and there's no point In having steph go out there
Speaker 2: if he's going to be a shell of himself and
Speaker 2: not be nearly as impactful as he needs. To be
Speaker 2: but hopefully we'll get some better news ABOUT the. Mri
Speaker 2: tomorrow that's all we have for tonight, on, YouTube guys
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