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We're hitting both of the 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Round two games from tonight, Warriors Timberwolves Game one, as 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 2: well as Pacers Cavs Game two. Both games marred by 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: substantial injuries to very important players, which has been a 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: huge bummer. I'm a little bummed out in general after 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: the way tonight went, just because you always want to 55 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: see these teams compete against each other at full strength, 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: and it just is always little bit of a bummer 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: when you work through an eighty two game season and 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: then somebody gets banged up in a big spot. We'll 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: be talking about the injuries a little bit later. We're 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: going to talk about some of the different basketball dynamics 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: at play, and then at the tail end of the show, 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna take about ten minutes of questions from the chat, 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: so make sure you're subscribed to our YouTube channel, and 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: then in our chat, Jackson's going to be pitching some 65 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: question to questions to us. At the tail end of 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: the show. 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Don't forget 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: about our podcast feed where you get your podcast on 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: our Hoops Tonight. It's also super helpful. We leave rating 79 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: in a review on that front. Our social media feeds 80 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Make sure you guys follow 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: us there. In the last but not least, keep dropping 82 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: mail back questions in the chat so we can get 83 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: to them at the tail end of the show. Right, 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. So obviously, the SAT injury is 85 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: just a huge bummer. Any of you guys have ever 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: had a hamstring strain. I've had one playing basketball. Ironically, 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: it was like a kind of an interesting trajectory thing 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: for my basketball career because I played JUCO my first year. 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: But I actually tried out for the same JUCO the 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: year prior and pulled my hamstring in a in the 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: training camp there, and I re injured it like three 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: or four times before I finally gave it the appropriate 93 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: amount of rest. It's just such a finicky injury, and 94 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: the specific thing that you'll notice when you have a 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: hamstring injury as a basketball player, when you're trying to 96 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: make explosive moves forward, there's a lot of that hamstring 97 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: pulling your body after that first step, and like that 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: was where I'd constantly re injure it. I'd be like, Oh, 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: I feel fine, I'm ready to go, and then I'd 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: like try to do an aggressive dribble move to the 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: right and immediately be like, oh, nope, not even close 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: to ready. I need to take some more time. And 103 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: so it's just such a huge bummer, because it's hard 104 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: for me to envision a scenario where Steph is close 105 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: to one hundred percent in this series, which is obvious 106 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: a huge swing towards Minnesota's favor, and I thought this 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: was a series that Golden State could win for a 108 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: lot of the same reasons that you guys saw tonight. 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about it in a minute. I do 110 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: think that there is a pathway here, a very slim 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: pathway for Steph to return in this series and to 112 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: be somewhat impactful. We'll talk about that in a little bit, 113 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: but as far as this particular game goes, one of 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: the big things I talked about in the series preview 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: was just the simple fact that this is a very, very, 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: very different matchup than the Los Angeles Lakers team. I 117 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: was impressed by a lot of what Minnesota did in 118 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: the first round, but it looked pretty similar to what 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: they did to Phoenix last year, and I left that 120 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: series primarily extremely disappointed with the Los Angeles Lakers and 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff they did on both ends of 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: the floor, their competitiveness defensively, even at the tail end 123 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: of the series, Lebron was doing a bad job on 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: the Glass and defensively, Luca I thought got soundly outplayed 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: and looked super out of shape at the end of games. 126 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: Their defense was horrible. It just I was really disappointed 127 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: in them. And as I looked at the Warriors, I 128 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: looked at them as on offense, a very different type 129 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: of offense, and then just a substantially better defense. You know, 130 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: I was texting with Jackson during the game, like, I 131 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: always have to be careful saying this kind of stuff 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: because there's a segment of Steph Curry fans that are 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: so just irrational that they take it as some sort 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 2: of criticism of Steph or some sort of minimize attempt 135 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: to minimize Steph. But Steve Kerr is a top two 136 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: coach in this league, and Draymond Green is the greatest 137 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: defensive player of this era. And this team has an 138 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: extremely high floor even without Steph because of those two 139 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: guys and what they do to set the floor on 140 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: both ends of the floor, what Draymond does defensively. And 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: then Steve Kerr in that front office, and I want 142 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: to connect the front office to this. This has been 143 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: consistent through multiple general managers. But they just know how 144 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: to find smart basketball players. That can play within what 145 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr asks them to do. And that's what allows 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: you to see guys like Quentin Post step in and 147 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: be impactful, Pat Spencer step in and be impactful. For 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: a guy like Buddy Heel who literally struggled at every 149 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: other destination of his career to suddenly come into Golden 150 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: State and be a useful player on both ends of 151 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: the floor, like that is a credit to Steve Kerr, 152 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: and that's a credit to this organization. And like I thought, 153 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: tonight was just a giant advertisement for what makes the 154 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Warriors one of the great organizations in the NBA from 155 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: the top down. And Steph is just the top tier 156 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: superstar that can lift them to championship level success. But 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: these guys that there is this is this is one 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: of the great coaches in NBA history and one of 159 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: the great defensive players in NBA history. And those dudes 160 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: got the job done in extremely unfortunate circumstances with their 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: star going down early in the game the way they did. 162 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: But let's talk about the specific differences. So the defense, 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: Golden State was the number one defense in the league 164 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: after the Jimmy Butler trade. I talked about this a 165 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: lot coming into the playoff runt. But this is, in 166 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: my opinion, an entirely different tier of defensive team than 167 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: the Lakers team that Minnesota faced in the first round. Specifically, 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: the two things that I mentioned was their ability on 169 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: the perimeter to actually get up into the ball because 170 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: they actually have some quick guards that can guard the ball. 171 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: Guys like Gary Payton, Guys like Moses Moody, guy like 172 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: Buddy Healed has been defending at a really high level 173 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: this year. They got a bunch of guys that can 174 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: actually use their quickness up on the ball. The Lakers 175 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: were a team that could not pressure the ball. They 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 2: could not pressure the ball because they're all six' eight six' 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: nine and pretty slow footed. By comparison they have to 178 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: play more of, a passive contained type. Of defense they're 179 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: sitting back off. The ball they're trying To funnel ant 180 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: because they know they can't. Stop him they're trying to 181 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: funnel him into a certain type of help. Side situation 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: they were just facing all these like foot speed mismatches 183 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: all over. The floor Right With. GOLDEN state i thought 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that stood out right away was just 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: How uncomfortable minnesota was on the Perimeter Against golden state's. 186 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Ball pressure all of that ball pressure caused them to rush, 187 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: the issue force the issue into. The paint and, Then Again, 188 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: Draymond green you're not going to find a better PLAYER 189 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: in nba history at occupying the paint and disrupting everything 190 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: there while also being able to get out and get 191 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: a great close out On a nase read or get 192 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: out and get a great close out on another shooter 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: on the. Weak side And So golden state Just put 194 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: minnesota into a completely different type of offensive situation instead 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: of getting to walk the ball up the court and 196 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: just pick a mismatch that they liked and set a 197 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: screen to get the switch and then space the floor 198 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: and then it gets to casually dribble wherever, he Wants 199 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: and julius gets to casually dribble wherever. He, wants instead 200 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: it's pressure forcing them to make. Decisions quicker any sort 201 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: of ball pressure typically is going to lead to an 202 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: offensive player just looking to attack it off, The dribble 203 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: and there was just a lot of really poor decisions 204 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: in the middle of the Floor by Ant and julius 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: in the. First half they did get better in the. 206 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Second half there was also a little bit of a 207 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Letup From golden state as they took multiple twenty, point 208 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: leads but they did have some success in the. Second 209 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: Half anthony edwards in particular started to figure out how 210 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: to get to the rim. And finish this is one 211 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: of the BIG things i picked up from the, series 212 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: preview if you, GUYS remember i just think this particular 213 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: matchup is really Rough For. Julius randall he on defense 214 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: is asked to track shooters and be paying attention off, 215 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: ball constantly and then on the offensive end of, the 216 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: floor It's just draymond's one of the best guys at 217 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: once again stunting at him and making him uncomfortable and 218 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: putting him in positions or he can make bad decisions 219 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: or take. Bad shots, BUT overall i thought the gap 220 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: in the defense was abundantly clear. Right away they allowed 221 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: just thirty one points in the. First half even in 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: the second Half when minnesota made. Their run, If Ever 223 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: golden state needed to kind of reassert control of. The 224 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: situation they were able to get the stops that they needed. 225 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: To get they had some Issues With rudy gobert on the, 226 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: offensive glass but they were able to kind of keep 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: it relatively within a manageable type. Of margin just their 228 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: defense cleanly won the first round of, this match the 229 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: first game in. This series minnesota will. Have adjustments there's 230 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: going to be a lot of things that they'll look 231 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: to do better and look to. Do DIFFERENTLY but i 232 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: thought the initial idea Of What golden state's defense does 233 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: and how it's different than What the lakers do had 234 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: a substantial Impact. On minnesota on the other end of, 235 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: THE floor I Thought golden state generally looked very comfortable 236 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: early in. The game they had a couple of guys 237 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: that went Called Like buddy healed was really struggling to 238 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: hit shots earlier in, The Game jimmy butler who was 239 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: struggling to get going early in. 240 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: The game but you. 241 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: Could see steph got several clean. Looks early you could 242 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: see that the dynamic of the Way That golden state 243 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: was attacking on offense Was giving. Minnesota FITS and i 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: thought we especially saw that in the middle portion of. 245 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: The GAME because i want To Take steph CURRY and 246 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: i want to remove him from the equation for, a 247 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: Second because steph is a obviously this top five player 248 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: in the world who is one of the greatest PLAYERS in, 249 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: nba history greatest shooter of, all time all, That stuff 250 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: but there's also a basketball schematic. Concept Inside What golden 251 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: state does is very different Than what, minnesota does and 252 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: that is they have incessant action ball in, player movement 253 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: the balls popping from side. To side shooters are constantly 254 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: running off. Of actions there's all sorts of little things 255 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: they do to try to, confuse you or they'll run 256 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: an action one way and then guys will slip out 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: of screens the. Next time there's relentless pace and motion 258 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: in the. Half court they push the ball off of missus. 259 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: Extremely well just very different Than that lakers team that 260 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: was giving the Ball, to luca walking the ball up 261 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: the court and doing the Same thing minnesota was doing 262 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: on the, other end which is just finding a matchup 263 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: that they wanted and then spacing the floor and playing 264 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: one on. One basketball it's just a very different type. 265 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: OF matchup i talked about this in the, series preview but, 266 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: to me this was a Matchup where minnesota was going 267 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: to have to defend with, their brain not with, their 268 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: legs and where's that's where it's very different than what 269 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: they did Against. 270 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: The lakers the third quarter is a. 271 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: Classic example you give up thirty six points and you 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: lose a lesser Version Of steph Curry And buddy healed 273 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: constantly in that quarter because you're not tracking all of 274 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: the ball in, player movement because you're not as attentive 275 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: as you need. To be the offensive rebounds are a 276 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: big part. Of It golden state at eighteen offensive rebounds 277 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: despite being an. Undersized team why. Is that It's because 278 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: minnesota is in rotation dealing with this blender, of players 279 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: and in those sorts of situations when you're tracking shooters 280 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: off of screens and stuff, like that a lot of 281 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: times the screeners will free up going towards. The Basket 282 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: jimmy butler got seven offensive rebounds in. This Game, buddy 283 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: heald he's running around. In circles he's not just getting 284 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: open as, a shooter he's getting open as. A crasher 285 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: because he's getting he's getting separated from. His defender And 286 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: so minnesota will defend better over the course of. This 287 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: series that's the Thing With golden state, in general is 288 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: they tend to catch you really off guard early in 289 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: a series with their ball in, player movement and you 290 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: do get, somewhat Better but it's just a very different type. 291 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: Of matchup and one of the things you Saw was. 292 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: Steph too steph was able to break off some of, 293 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: these taller skinnier Defenders from minnesota that are more like 294 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,479 Speaker 2: length athletes instead of like foot speed type of athletes 295 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: that he can get leaning one way or another and 296 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: get out of position so he can rise up and 297 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: knock down. A shot i thought the dramatic difference in 298 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: the matchup showed in a big Way from, minnesota today 299 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: and they got a lot of work in front of 300 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: them in order to clean some of that. 301 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: Stuff. UP now. 302 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: I want to let's go To the warrior shoutouts First 303 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: and i'll circle Back to steph's Injury because steph's injury 304 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: is kind of like a big picture thing. For Me 305 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: So jimmy butler in the, second, half again the entire 306 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: job changed as Soon As steph curry went out of. 307 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: The game it was gonna become a defensive slug fest at, 308 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: that point and you were gonna need other guys to 309 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: step up and be. Really aggressive suddenly it's gonna be 310 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot more of like You need jimmy to operate 311 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: as a score not just as a kind of a 312 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: full crum in the middle of. The floor you're Gonna 313 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: Need buddy heel to kind of like up the range 314 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: of what he considers to be a good shot into 315 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: a range that's a little bit further towards, bad shot 316 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: because you're gonna need him to. Be aggressive you needed 317 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: guys to step up and. Get Buckets jonathan kaminga coming 318 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: In and jay generating seven points the way. HE did 319 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: i know it doesn't seem, like much but those buckets 320 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: felt important in. The Moment Like pat spencer coming in 321 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: and hitting that spin move on To Kill alexander walker 322 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: along the baseline and banking. 323 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: That in did you get it was? 324 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: So funny you could see Then Kile alexander walker was 325 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: so frustrated that he gave up a bunt that he 326 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: gave up a Bucket. To pat, but uh and then 327 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: he hits, that, big sweeping driving hook down the lane 328 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: Line Against. Rudy gobert just those two self created buckets 329 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: in a situation, like that those are like found money 330 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: in a game like this when your star. Goes Down 331 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: gary payton hitting a couple of threes that. He hit 332 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: there were just so many guys that, stepped Up Like 333 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: draymond green went cold late in. The game him hitting 334 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: those four threes early in the game and building that. Initial, 335 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: advantage Like If steph curry goes out of the game and, 336 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: it's tied you're not winning. This game the psychology of 337 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: it is fundamentally different when you have. That Lead when 338 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: steph leaves, the game it suddenly turns into a situation 339 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: where you can Look at buddy and, it's, like, hey 340 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: dude seven for nine nineteen, Is okay like we just 341 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: need you to try to score as much as, you 342 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: can but just make sure you're focused. On defense you 343 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: can Go to jimmy and, be like it's okay if 344 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: you take some of these. Tougher shots you can go 345 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: to these guys and, be like it's not a. Big 346 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: deal pat if you missed that sweeping hook down the. 347 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: Lane line it removes the pressure from. THE situation i 348 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: was literally thinking about it in the fourth Quarter when 349 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: minnesota was making. Their run, i'm like they literally just 350 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: need a couple of buckets and this game. Is over 351 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: buddy hits a three on the, Left Wing jimmy butler 352 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: hits a little leaning jump shot around. 353 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: The. 354 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: Elbow boom game. 355 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: Is over and it's because they were able to build that, 356 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: initial margin which in large part came down to the 357 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: quality of their Defense And draymond green knocking down those 358 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: threes early in. The game but like just a bunch 359 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: of contributions down the line on both ends of, the 360 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: floor just really really, impressive effort an organizational Win For, 361 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: golden state a demonstration of the fact that you, don't win. 362 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: YOU know i think part of this is just basketball 363 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: culture and the way we talk about. The game and 364 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: this is not Just a. Steff thing this Is a. 365 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Lebron thing I've seen lebron fans do this all, the, time, 366 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: like oh he carried his team to, a championship he, 367 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: did this he, did that and, IT'S like I think 368 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: lebron's the greatest basketball player of. All time i'm not 369 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: trying to say he didn't do, those things BUT if 370 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: i looked back through, his championships it's like he won 371 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty because he had one of the greatest 372 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: defenses that was, ever Assembled And anthony davis was playing 373 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: at like a top, five level and he was surrounded 374 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: By Like alex Caruso And Contavious colwell Pope And frank 375 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: vogel was one of the best defensive coaches in the 376 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: league at. THE time i go to, twenty sixteen it's The. 377 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: J r smith hitting massive shots in the. Third Quarter 378 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: It's kyrie irving hitting a, Game Winner It's kevin love 379 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: getting big stops down. THE stretch i go to, you 380 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: know you can go down the line through all of 381 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: these big moments in, playoff history, and yeah there are 382 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: stars at the tip of. The spear but basketball is a. 383 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Team sport it's an. Organizational sport it takes. Great coaching 384 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: it takes a front office that is connected to the, 385 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: coaching staff that understands the type of players that the coaching. 386 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Staff needs it requires personnel that compliments your star and 387 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: both ends of. The like it is an intricate thing 388 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: to put together a championship. Basketball team And the warriors 389 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: have done it four times and it's because of down. 390 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: The organization they have excellence at so many. Key POSITIONS 391 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: and i just thought tonight was just a big statement in. 392 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: That regard so what does this look like on the. 393 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: Step front the beautiful thing about winning this particular game 394 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: is you now have your goal completed for going on 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: the Road. To minnesota you stole home. COURT advantage i 396 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: don't Know That golden, state can, you know win the Series. 397 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: WITHOUT steph i would find that, extremely unlikely even with their, 398 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: defensive advantages even with the type of play that they 399 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: got Out Of buddy Held And jimmy. Butler tonight It's 400 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: just minnesota's a really good Team And steph curry, for 401 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: ME like, i mentioned is the superstar that can solve 402 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: the unsolvable problems that a. Series presents think of it 403 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: at a real. Basic level there's only so much you 404 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: can do with a. Good coach there's only so much 405 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: you can do with a great. Defensive, player ultimately there 406 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: are so many situations that present themselves in a playoff 407 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: series where only the superhero can conquer. The problem AND 408 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: so i have a hard time believing they can win 409 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: this Series. Without steph so if we talk, about it 410 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: if we talk, it through what is the Pathway for 411 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: steph to return in this series in a Way Where 412 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: golden state has a legitimate chance to. Win well game 413 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: two Is, on Thursday and game three Is, on Saturday 414 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: and game four Is, on Monday and game five Is. 415 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: On wednesday they're going every, Other day so it's going 416 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: to be really tough To bring steph back at some 417 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: point during that stretch. Of games but if you can 418 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 2: somehow steal one Game In golden state on the strength 419 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: of your home Crowd And jimmy butler having a massive 420 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: Night And buddy hial having a massive night and a 421 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: few role players stepping up in a, big way and 422 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: you can take it too two Back. To minnesota Even 423 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: if minnesota wins. That game you literally have three full 424 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: days Off before game six on, the eighteenth which Is. 425 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 2: A sunday so there is a version of this where 426 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: you could go three to two Back To, golden State 427 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: leave steph at. Home rehabbing all he does is round 428 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: the clock do what he needs to do to. Get 429 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: healthy you could give him a solid twelve days to rest, 430 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: that hamstring and that might still not, be ENOUGH but 431 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 2: i see that as like a relatively reasonable possibility that 432 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: in almost Two weeks steph could rehab, the injury come 433 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: Back on sunday In a game Six In. Golden state 434 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: then you go on the Road in game Seven. To, 435 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: minnesota obviously you have the Advantage of minnesota not having 436 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: had To guard steph to that point in, the series 437 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of an advantage of them 438 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: being caught off guard in, That respect, but again it's 439 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: a thin path. For me just hamstrings are. So finicky. 440 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: It's WEIRD like i. LEFT this I left game one 441 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: feeling very STRONGLY that i was on the right side 442 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: of things in terms of my. Series prediction but THEN 443 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: now i leave the game Feeling Like golden state has 444 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: a very slim chance to win, the series because that's 445 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: just the unfortunate part Of That steph. Curry injury On the, 446 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: wolves front several, SPECIFIC things i thought that they were 447 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: a bit more attentive in their off ball defense in the. 448 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, in particular the Shots That golden state hit 449 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: at that point in the game were much more geared 450 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: towards their, lesser shooters and even the shot that like 451 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: the Shots that buddy, was hitting there was a couple 452 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: open ones that. He got the Ones that buddies was 453 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: hitting were rushed and contested in a lot. Of situations 454 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: and so there the, pathway is you need to polish 455 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: up your off ball defense from game. To game it's 456 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: not gonna. Happen overnight there's a lot of habits that 457 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: you got to. Pick, Up again like we, talked about 458 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: it's more of a. Mental challenge it'll take time for 459 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: them to polish those. Things up but if you get 460 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: more attentive on off ball defense over the course of, 461 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: the series and then the big thing is going to 462 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: be on the. Offensive End anthony Edwards And julius randall 463 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: and their decision making in the middle of. 464 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: The, floor like EVEN though i. 465 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: Got going in the, second half still was a steady 466 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: diet of him forcing the issue into the paint and 467 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: trying to make everything happen by himself as a score 468 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: once again only to. Assist tonight if you look back 469 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: to the job he Did, against la there's a pretty 470 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: strong correlation between his playmaking and the team being able. 471 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: To score and so it's going to be big on 472 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: those guys solving the mental challenge in the, half court 473 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: making the right decisions in the middle of the floor 474 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: to try to get those quality catch and. Shoot opportunities 475 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: like there was a lot of talk About the wolves 476 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: shooting in this. PARTICULAR game i did not see it 477 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: as an example of just guys. Missing shots that's not 478 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: what it looked like. To me, to me it had 479 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: much more of a vibe where you've got to Give 480 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: the warriors credit for rushing them off the Line. The 481 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: Lakers the lakers Game in, game five there was a 482 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: whole lot of just wide open shots that they were 483 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: hitting or missing that were on these kickouts and offensive 484 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: rebounds were like literally no one's even in. THE frame 485 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: I Thought golden state did a great job in this 486 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: game Of rushing minnesota off the line and actually playing 487 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: them into. Those misses there's a huge difference between guys 488 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: are just missing shots and you're actually causing them to. 489 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: Miss shots and so in order to generate better three, 490 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: point shooting you have to generate better quality three. Point 491 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: shots in order to generate better quality three, point shots 492 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: you need your decision makers to make better decisions in 493 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: the middle of. THE floor i Just checked synergy to 494 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: try to get some information on the percentage of their 495 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: shots that were guarded. Or unguarded synergy still, hasn't updated 496 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: so when we get over to playback, Later tonight i'll 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: start to pull some of the specific data that came 498 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: out of game one to see if there's anything to. 499 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Learn there but the other piece of it two is 500 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: if you get better playing defense and you get more 501 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: stops by managing the off, ball action more, or better 502 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: you can get yourself in a situation where you're playing in, 503 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: transition more which could be a big way to get. 504 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Them going, all right let's Move On indiana cleveland the 505 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: other injury bummer game from Tonight As, DeAndre Hunter, evan 506 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: Mobley And. Darius garland we're all out of uniform For The. 507 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 2: CLEVELAND cap i Talked About tyree Saliburton after game one 508 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: in him being relentless was THE word i used with 509 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: his advantage, hunting essentially like every single time that you 510 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: leave somebody open on a, slip on like in nail 511 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 2: help uh, low man help foot in, the paint, this 512 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: that whatever, It is he's gonna make the pass every. 513 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: Single TIME and i think relentless is basically the theme 514 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: word for this entire. Basketball team they literally never stop coming, 515 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: at you no matter How well, cleveland played no matter 516 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: how big of a lead, they took no matter how 517 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: many times they took. The lead cleveland took two separate twenty, 518 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: point leads not including the big one they had late in. 519 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: The game. 520 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: But no, matter what you score to go, up twenty 521 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: you score to go up, seven late they're taking the 522 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: ball out of. The net they're quickly, inbounding it and 523 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: they're running it down your throat every. Single time no. 524 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Matter what if they get stopped, in transition they're gonna 525 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: back it out and they're gonna run a bunch of world. 526 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: Win action in the, half court hunt, those advantages try 527 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: to get a. 528 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: Good look if, they miss they're gonna crash the. 529 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: Offensive glass Look At Aaron neie smith at the end of, 530 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: this game just over and over and, over again crashing the. 531 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: Offensive glass if you once they get, a bucket they're 532 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: just gonna immediately start picking you up full court and 533 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: making everything a pain in. The ass in the, back 534 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: court try to rush you into a mistake so they 535 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: can run down the. Floor again and no matter how 536 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: many times you have a positive sequence where you make 537 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: three four plays in, a row they're waiting on you. 538 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: To relax they're counting on you. To relax. It's all 539 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how well. You execute you can be 540 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: up seven in the. Final minute they've won that game twice. 541 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: This year more ball pressure forcing multiple turnovers in the. 542 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: Final minute One on strus on, an inbounds One On 543 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: donovan mitchell stepping through An elbowing nesmith in, the Face 544 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: Another nie smith wild crash on an offensive rebound off 545 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: of a miss free throw where he dunks It Over 546 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: donovan mitchell and throws him into. The ground another blow 547 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Of a haliburton drive right to the basket for, a 548 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: layup quickly scoring on an out of bound sequence out of, 549 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 2: A timeout another offensive rebound TapouT on a free Throw From. 550 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: Miles Turner Another tyreese haliburton step back three at the 551 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: top of the key to win. The game they literally 552 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: never stopped coming at you in every facet of. The 553 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: game they weaponize their speed in every facet of. The 554 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: game it really. Is remarkable that's how they keep. Coming 555 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: back that's why they're The. Comeback kings they just count 556 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: on you eventually letting go of. The rope they know 557 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: you'll only do a good job for a portion of 558 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: the game and that they'll be able. To Capitalize the 559 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: caves did a good job Of defending indiana in the. 560 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: First quarter brought a lot, more pressure a lot more 561 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: attentiveness to. THOSE advantages i was talking about it, first 562 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: shift before the first. Time out they were a, little 563 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: SLOPPY as I think indiana went up nine, to two 564 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: and they give up some easy ones but for the 565 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: rest of the first quarter they were really, really sharp 566 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: And then indiana scored three straight quarter of at least thirty. 567 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: Four Points. 568 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: Tyrs alberton in the, first half he looked like a 569 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: Ghost of haliburton's past in a lot, of ways kind 570 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: of like in last year in, the playoffs where he'd 571 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: have these bizarrely. Passive GAMES but i thought he woke 572 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: up and was great after that. First quarter he had 573 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: eleven six and three just in the, second half made 574 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: two massive plays in the final minute that stole the 575 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: game as. 576 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: A score. 577 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: Cleveland asked for. It too they started taking a victory 578 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: lap early in, the game which again it's like you 579 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: think somebody would have learned After what indiana has done, 580 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: all season but they start chanting Overrated. 581 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: At Halliburton donovan mitch. 582 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: Was, like everybody chill out, like this this is a, 583 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: terrible idea and he burned him. For it this was 584 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: a stat from My Friend carson Breber From. Nerds sage 585 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: he tweeted it out during. The Game tyres haliburton is 586 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: now ten for eleven on shots to tie or take 587 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: the lead in the final two minutes of games. 588 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: This. 589 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Year unbelievable Clutch Player. Tyris aliburton it's been so much 590 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: fun seeing him healthy again because it just looks like 591 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: a different guy than the guy we saw at the 592 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: tail end of. Last Season Aaron nie smith, unbelievable game 593 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: a lot of quality defensive possessions On, tyjer rome who 594 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: was just in jail. All night we'll talk about that in. 595 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: A minute he had two massive threes in the. Third 596 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: quarter cavs went, up twenty had a great, defensive possession 597 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: and he just hits like a bailout bomb out of 598 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: the left corner over a. Great contest hits a transition 599 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: three right before the end of the third quarter that 600 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: cut the lead down. To fourteen completely changed the feel of, 601 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: the game the relentless crashing of the. Offensive glass you 602 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: guys saw the dunk on the. Free throw he had 603 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: another One On donovan mitchell where he just kind of 604 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: did a swim move on him coming off of the, 605 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: left wing got an easy little bank shot. Put back, 606 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 2: you know one of the things that teams will do 607 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: Against the pacers is they'll, be like, all right, You 608 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Know nie smith is our best option to hide an 609 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 2: offensive player that we need to, give, rest right so 610 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: You Hide donovan mitchell there and hopes that he'll get 611 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: to take. It, easy well one of the ways you 612 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: can make sure he doesn't get to take it easy 613 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: is relentlessly crashing the. Offensive glass He Wore donovan. Mitch 614 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: there he made it So that donovan could. Not Rest 615 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: ben mathern unbelievable second half in, this game straight up, 616 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: rim pressure getting downhill and ball Screens Against, jared allen 617 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: drawn fouls and finishing, off him finishing against him at, 618 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: the rim crashing the offensive. Glass himself running. In transition 619 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: he had a couple of big transition leak. Out Buckets 620 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: ben mathurin was a huge scoring pop from in. This 621 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Game miles turner spacing not just at the three, point 622 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: line but also hit a bunch of those little short 623 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: role kind of like it's like, mid range short range 624 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: spacing type, of shots you, Know how like we see 625 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of different versions of this around. The league 626 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: like Guys like Hartenstein And jared allen do it with 627 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: like little, short Floaters But miles turner can like easily 628 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: rise up into a little twelve thirteen foot jump shot 629 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: and knock it down at a. High clip he was 630 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: spacing the floor in. That way he was beating switches 631 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: out of ball screens in the. Fourth quarter twice in the, 632 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: fourth Quarter the cavs switched the, ball screen he Posted 633 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Up max struce and got an. Easy bucket he Posted 634 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: Up isaac corro and got an easy bucket on this 635 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: kind of like nifty little really short range ball screen 636 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: where he just sealed the coorra right underneath. The basket 637 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: and then his drop coverage Defense On. TY jerome, I 638 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Like ti jerome is having a, nightmare series and we're 639 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: going to talk about it in, a second but like 640 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: a big part of That Is. Miles turner he is 641 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: putting on a drop coverage clinic in the sense that 642 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: he's mixing up at the level and a little bit 643 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: further back types. Of coverages He's Catching ti jerome off. 644 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Guard constantly one of the THINGS that I Think jared 645 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: allen has figured out Is That ti jerome prefers to take. 646 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: The floater and this is just this IS The nba 647 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: playoffs in, a, Nutshell Right Like ti drome was the 648 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: best floater shooter in the entire league, this season sixty 649 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: two percent. 650 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: On him in the. 651 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: Regular season he was six for eleven in the first Round, 652 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: against miami but he's not the guy that's going to 653 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: go to the rim every. Single Time And miles turner, 654 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: has clearly through the coaching staff or through his, own 655 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: tape whatever it is that, He's watching he's just been 656 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: on top of that floater the, entire series just Stunting At, 657 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: ti jerome attacking, the pocket preventing him from comfortably rising into. 658 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: That floater he's bumped him on his high drop possessions 659 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: and kept him from turning. The corner turner's just done 660 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: a great job Defensively On ty jerome and it's a 661 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: huge part of how They've held cleveland's offense under control 662 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: every time that they've needed to. Get, stops again they 663 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: got a bunch of stops when they. Needed to in 664 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of, this game Held the cavs twenty 665 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: one points after getting lit up for the first. Three 666 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: quarters miles Was Fantastic ti. JEROME again i want To 667 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: credit turner in his drop, coverage defense but he's five 668 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: for sixteen on floaters now in. This series he's leaving 669 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: his three point shots way short off the front of 670 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: the rim every. Single time seems like he's got the 671 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: full blown. Yips now and that's really tough Because the 672 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: caves desperately need Him With darius, garland out and he 673 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: just hasn't been. GOOD enough i feel Terrible for. Cavs 674 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: fans they had such an. AWESOME season i was actually 675 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: really starting to believe in in that first round series 676 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: with the level they were, reaching offensively and then you 677 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: lose three of your top six players before game two 678 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: of the. 679 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: Second round. 680 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: INDIANA'S great i picked them to win multiple games in 681 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: this series even If the calves are at. FULL strength 682 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: I Assume darius garland and everyone would be ready. To 683 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: go But the calves just have no chance to win 684 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: this series as undermanned as. They are and the big 685 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: disappointment has been. Their defense some of it is. The 686 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: injuries they've defended Better with mobley on the floor in. 687 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: The series mobile is the defensive player of, the Year 688 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: but indiana has looked entirely too comfortable through the first. 689 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: Two games they've logged an offensive rating over one hundred, 690 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: and twenty AND so i just Think the calves need 691 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: to be operating at full tilt in order to win 692 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 2: for the next, five games and it just seems extremely 693 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: unlikely that they're going to be able to pull. That, 694 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: off so in, Other Words tyre saliburton in many ways 695 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: put this series into serious danger of being over with 696 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: that shot that he. Hit tonight, all right let's take 697 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: about ten minutes of questions before we head over. To 698 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: playback we're Gonna have jackson Come. 699 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: On state let's. 700 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: Do it let's do some male bag questions. 701 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: First up we're gonna start with some questions About the, 702 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: warrior series and we'll do something About. 703 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: The. 704 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: PACERS first i put a poll in the chat asking 705 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: the chat When should steph come back game, four earlier, 706 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 5: game five. Or later seventy three percent of the chat 707 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 5: said game, four earlier which. IS interesting, I mean i 708 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: think that's both optimistic as well as, you, know HOPEFUL 709 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 5: but i think it's it's gonna. BE tough i, would 710 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: say as someone who has also had a hamstring, injury 711 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: before to come back in, six days. 712 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: Did you re? 713 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: INJURY yours i just it's just IMPOSSIBLE that i was, 714 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: like YOU and i think like most people just didn't 715 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 5: give it the. Requisite rest so it's NOT like i 716 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 5: reinjured it, so bad but it just didn't. Heal quickly 717 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 5: it just didn't. Heal, quickly, yeah dude. It's brutal it's 718 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: it's such a. 719 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Complicated PROCESS and i think THAT'S where i feel like it's, 720 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: overly optimistic because like you got to think. Big picture 721 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: there's no point In beating Minnesota if STEP's not going 722 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: to be good for the rest of. 723 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: The playoff. 724 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: That's true so your your chance is One that steph's 725 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: hamstring tear is. Extremely MILD now i am somewhat encouraged 726 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: by the idea that it's going to, be mild simply 727 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: because he gave out a couple of he gave out. 728 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: A bucket after he heard he gave out. 729 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: A bucket he got that little floater that he put 730 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: it off the front of, the rim and he was 731 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: coming off of ball screens and pitching It to draymond 732 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: and still. Generating advantages and he wasn't, moving good but he, 733 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: Was moving and so that leaves me somewhat encouraged that 734 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: it was probably a somewhat. Mild strain so the question 735 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: Is can steph recover from a mild strain in. TWELVE 736 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: days i do think. HE can i don't think he 737 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 2: can cover from a mild strain in, nine days which 738 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: is what you would need to bring him back in. Game, 739 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: five also it's like think. Of it think of it. 740 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: This way. 741 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: Let's Say golden state steels one of, those games the 742 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: Ones In, golden state so it's two to two going Back. 743 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: To minnesota that's a, really big, really important really physical 744 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: game that would be really tough to just Toss A 745 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: steph curry in that in that sort. Of situation whereas, 746 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: GAME six i feel like you could play step, shorter 747 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 2: bursts playing like thirty minutes and probably get that job 748 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: done because of how much they can defend in front 749 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: of their home crowd and stuff. Like THAT so i 750 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 2: mean a lot of it's going to be by ear, 751 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: Right guys like If If golden state loses each of 752 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: the next, three games they probably Don't bring steph back 753 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: cause there's just no point in having him tear his 754 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: hamstring trying to come back from a three to one 755 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: deficit and be put in a situation where he's out 756 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: for two months in, the summer or, god forbid he 757 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: needs some kind. Of SURGERY so i think it's going 758 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: to be a lot of like reading the room and 759 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: seeing how, It goes like if they what if they 760 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: go three, To one like what if they win both 761 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: Games In golden State, without steph they may decide to 762 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: literally see if they can win the series. Without him 763 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of different angles this. Can go 764 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: and it's got to be day to Day how, steph feeling, 765 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: you know a lot of it's going to be kind 766 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: of read and react on the information day. 767 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: To day and that is as of Ten pm, pacific 768 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: time the latest reporting is that he is going to 769 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 5: GET an. 770 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 4: Mri Tomorrow steve carr. 771 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 5: Said they're playing on him being day, to day, quote 772 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: unquote and that they are not expecting Him for, game two, 773 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 5: which is, you know in line with everything. 774 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: We're expecting it would be really dumb to play him. 775 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 3: In games there's. 776 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: No, way yeah question about, you Know the warriors going 777 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: Forward Without steph curry in the games that they will be. 778 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: Without him, who first who would be your starting five 779 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 5: For the warriors in Game Withou Stuph. 780 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: Curry man, THAT'S interesting i think that so we Think 781 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: of buddy as the obvious Replacement for steph in the, 782 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: starting lineup even though he was already in the. Starting 783 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: lineup he slots into that two. Guard spot he's there 784 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: Next to PODS or i guess he's the point next. 785 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: TO pods. 786 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: I actually thought That the warriors did a good job 787 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: of Contending with minnesota with their speed rather than with. 788 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: Their SIZE so i THINK that i would PROBABLY consider. 789 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I. 790 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 2: Consider kaminga and, HERE'S why i hear, me out just 791 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: pitch this hair brained idea house money, game, two right 792 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 2: what if you can find a way to get coming 793 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: into some kind of rhythm in game two and that 794 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 2: ends up being something that you can ride In game korean? 795 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: Game four, so like what if you started him and 796 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: gave him, more opportunity basically with the idea of being 797 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: if we can build some sort of Rhythm with kaminga in, 798 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: this game it could be the difference between us being 799 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: able to win our games Back In golden state. Or 800 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: not there's other directions they. COULD go, I Mean moses 801 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: moody was a nightmare. OFFENSIVELY tonight i didn't hate their big. 802 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: Looks tonight that's another, Thing TOO like I Thought kevon 803 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: looney battled, Pretty well so like there's a version of 804 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: this where they could go. Big TOO but I think 805 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: i would Go. With kminga what? 806 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 5: ABOUT you i had not Even Considered jonathan kaminga Starting 807 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 5: because i'm so down on him even though he had 808 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 5: he had a pretty good, stretch, tonight actually but that 809 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 5: is an. INTERESTING one i do think that trying to 810 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 5: see if you can get him in a rhythm in 811 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 5: a game that is you're playing with house money is a. 812 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 5: GOOD idea i, also think as we've talked, about, many 813 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 5: many many, Many Times jonathan, kiminga operates it's way way 814 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 5: better when he has physical, athletic mismatches and so trying 815 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: to align Him In mike connley minutes is not the. 816 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 4: Worst idea not that. 817 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 5: YOU'RE like i spend your whole offensive philosophy Around, getting kumingo, 818 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 5: you know possessions On with conley, guarding him but it 819 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: is a place, where it's, you know definitely the most 820 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: obvious physical mismatch that he would have Against any. 821 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 4: Timbleves PLAYER so i think it's an interesting and. 822 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: Interesting idea he kind of figured out some off ball. 823 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: Utility tonight he hit it, that THREE which i was 824 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: actually a really important both the business back to. 825 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 4: Back Buggets the draymond's. Baseline, drive yeah the. 826 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: Baseline. 827 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: Drive, yeah well and that's the other. Thing too Draymond 828 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: and jimmy both will throw those baseline drives and they're 829 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: constantly looking for cutters flashing in front of, the rim 830 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: and like there's there's like some legitimate kind of like 831 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: spacing value with him as like a cutter in those 832 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: sorts of situations and he can find those Runways, Because 833 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: minnesota minnesota is just so bad and they're off there 834 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: terrible and it and you're right like that that him 835 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: and the starting lineup could be a way to try 836 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: to tie Him To mike. 837 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 4: Conley's minutes, that's interesting another sort of. 838 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 5: Rotation question why do You think quentin Posts gudzero runta 839 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 5: and do you think he's also an option to get maybe, 840 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 5: not start but maybe startet get some sort of minutes 841 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: in the rest of The series with, THAT stuff. 842 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: I think it's part of just like The Momentum kevon 843 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: looney had after a Really nice, game seven also just 844 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: the Idea that minnesota presents a threat as an offensive 845 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: rebounding team as we saw in the In the. 846 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: Lakers series, BUT. 847 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: Like i think it's GONNA be i think it's gonna 848 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: be a lot Of Like steve kerr doing what he, 849 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: Did TONIGHT like i thought That Stan van gundy did 850 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: a really, nice job but kind of like Explaining How 851 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: steve kerr has this unique trust for the players down. 852 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: As roster we talked about this at the top of, 853 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: the show but there is something to be said about 854 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: the organizational approach to finding, smart players and the key 855 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: there is they can count on these guys to come 856 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 2: in and do a job within the defensive game plan 857 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: like half. The battle then that's half the Issue. With 858 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: kaminga you want, to know you want to know Why 859 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: kaming it. Doesn't play it has way more to do 860 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: with the Fact that kerr just doesn't trust him to 861 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 2: execute the, game plan and he's kind of the odd 862 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 2: man out in the sense that so many of these 863 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: guys ARE Undrafted g league type of dudes That the 864 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: warriors scouting department has identified AS high iq players that 865 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 2: they can fit into, their System whereas kaminga. 866 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 3: Is a textbook. 867 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: Lottery pick it's like he was picked, for upside, you 868 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 2: know not for him specifically fitting. The culture and so 869 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: that that's where you see those issues. Taking place but 870 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: moving forward in, the series Whether It's, quinton post Whether It's, 871 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: key santos Whether It's, pat spencer regardless of who, It 872 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: is kaminga, AS well i think falls into. This group 873 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 2: kerr is going to be doing a lot of like here's, 874 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: your chance show me what you got and quick hooks, 875 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 2: with guys, AND like i think you're Gonna see pods play. 876 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: Big minutes You'll see draymond play. Big minutes You'll see 877 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: buddy play, Big minutes You'll play jimmy play, big MINUTES 878 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: and i think You'll see gary play. Big minutes but 879 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: the rest, of those you know that the rest of 880 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: that like kind of sixty seventy minutes that, ARE available 881 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: i think are going to be split kind of just 882 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 2: between who's playing well in that. GIVEN night I think 883 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: i think we could see an astronomical amount of. DIFFERENT 884 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: lineups i think this could be the series where you 885 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: see the most different lineups played in. 886 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 5: THE history, i mean they already did a lot, to 887 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 5: THAT and i think that instilling, that trust, you know 888 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 5: organizationally down Definitely from steve down is really. Really Beneficially 889 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 5: key santo's got run today before kuminga super, short shift 890 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 5: didn't get back in, the game and that's not a 891 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 5: not issue for the roster and the team chemistry as 892 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 5: a whole because of the sort of that culture that 893 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: they've that. 894 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 4: They've instilled that's a. 895 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 5: Great point let's move take a couple questions about the, 896 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 5: other series and then we can head over. To playback, 897 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 5: first one why do you think people seem to Not 898 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 5: Like tyre's? 899 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 4: Halliburn's play, you. 900 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 5: Know he got the most overrated, player obviously when the 901 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 5: evidence seems to show that he is someone who is happening, 902 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 5: playoff success can lead a team to the, Conference finals 903 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 5: he's good in, the clutch. Impacts winning what is sort 904 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 5: of the issue around the Perception Of. 905 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: Tyre's, HALIBURTON so, I uh i think that most basketball 906 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: junkies out There Like tyrese halliburton from what at least 907 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: FROM what i can tell and from, my perspective in 908 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: the sense that they can see his value in what 909 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: he does. REALLY well i THINK among nba players he's 910 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: just a. Shit TALKER like i don't think it's any 911 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: more complicated. Than that like he, is good and he kicks, 912 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: your ass and he talks a bunch, of SHIT and 913 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: i think it just rubs everybody the. Wrong WAY and i, 914 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: THINK also i do think that there's such a THING 915 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: as i think that there are a good CHUNK of 916 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: nba players who see the game through the lens of what. 917 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 3: They DO. 918 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: And i, THINK this i think you see a lot 919 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 2: of manifestations of this around, the league where like stars 920 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: will like certain types of role players but dislike other 921 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: types of players because they kind of like fit their own, basketball, 922 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: Worldview right like like how many times have we seen 923 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: you remember with Like ragon rondo On the lakers, for 924 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: ins this is a. Great example, we're like we're watching 925 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: from the sidelines and, we're like why the Hell is 926 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: rayjon getting all these Minutes Over. Alex cruso but, it's 927 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: like so the guys in that, locker room They're Like 928 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: ray jehan's. A genius, you know we're gonna like, He's 929 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna. Guy this he's our point Guard due 930 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: lebron was always obsessed with backup playmaking in that phase of, 931 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: his career if you. Remember, correctly, so like it just 932 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: is one of those THINGS where i think there are 933 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 2: a lot of players in the league that struggle To 934 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: see tyresee's value because he's such a different kind of player. 935 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 2: Than EVERYBODY, Like i by, the way there's some of This. 936 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: With jokic there's some of This, With JOKIC LIKE i 937 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: i feel like there are a lot. OF players i 938 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: think now everyone's kind Of accepted jokic as the obvious 939 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 2: ass kicker that, He is but there was like a 940 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: like in that twenty, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four 941 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: there were a lot of years there where it seemed 942 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 2: like some of the players around the league didn't quite 943 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 2: have the appreciation For what, jokic did just because he 944 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: was So. Different tyresee you combine it with him just 945 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: being a just, a HAWKER and i think it just 946 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 2: rubs everybody the wrong way among, his PEERS and i 947 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: think that's why he gets voted. 948 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 5: Like, THAT yeah i also think there's not that anyone 949 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 5: would be able to admit this or even be conscious 950 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 5: of don't necessarily there's sort of a factor with him And, 951 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 5: with jokic they're Just slightly they're just a little. Bit 952 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 5: dorky they're not The Classic anthony edwards bulldog pro athlete. 953 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 5: Personality TYPE and i think to, your point it just 954 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 5: even if it's not rubbing people the, wrong way it's 955 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 5: that they're it's not what they're sort of, accustomed to 956 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 5: what they these players envision the best versions of themselves 957 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 5: are the best versions OF an nba basketball player as an. 958 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: Idea would look and SOUND like i think a. 959 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: Little bit, you're right that's such a great point because 960 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: it's like it extends to everything stylistically, as well like 961 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 2: his nineteen, points TONIGHT and i thought he was excellent. 962 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: Like that it's not the kind of thing that's going 963 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: to show up in thirty thirty five. Point games it's 964 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: not going to show up with him dunking on. Your 965 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: head although he's a better ATHLETE than i think he gets. 966 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: Credit for he's got kind of a funky set shot 967 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: in terms of his, jun shot although he gets more 968 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 2: he gets more lyft than you'd think on some of 969 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: his movement off the. Dribble shots But like tyrese is 970 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: just a very unorthodox player and in almost every way 971 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: on and off. The COURT and i think that's a 972 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 2: big part, of it. 973 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 4: Hundred percent, all right let's do one more. Question here 974 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 4: we'll go over. 975 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 5: To playback do you Think this pacers team is better than, 976 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 5: last year just, you know largely the. Same roster do 977 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 5: you Think the pacers team? Is better and, if so 978 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 5: do you think they Can beat boston? 979 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 4: Next round if it Would. 980 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: BE boston i think they are substantially better than that, 981 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: last YEAR and i think that they have a legitimate 982 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 2: chance To beat boston in a way that they didn't. 983 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: Last year. 984 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: The first piece of It Is. Tyres haliburton tyres is 985 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: just playing at a substantially higher level than he did. 986 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: Last year we talked about This With steph curry in 987 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 2: the in the earlier segments of. The show but playoff 988 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 2: series present. Unsolvable problems it's kind of like the beating, Switches, 989 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: thing like at a, certain point you got to have 990 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: a guy that can go one on one against a 991 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: good defender and create a great shot and over and, 992 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: over again whether it was Him Cooking jared Allen in 993 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: game One, in switches or whether it's Him cooking Giannis 994 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: in game Six or game five Of the. Bucks, series 995 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 2: like he just has an upside as a switch beater 996 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 2: in this playoff run that he did not have. LAST 997 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 2: year i think that's the, big difference and that is the. 998 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 2: Ceiling Razor when indiana got presented with the unsolvable problem 999 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: That was boston tightening the screws at the end of games, 1000 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: last year he wasn't able to. Overcome that but, THIS 1001 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 2: year i think he's in a better position to, do 1002 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 2: so then there's just some kind of incremental improvement down. 1003 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 2: The Roster BEN mathurin i think has, been great and 1004 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: he's his athleticism has been a big upside in this 1005 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 2: like super physical. PLAYOFF environment i thought he was a 1006 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: huge part of their second half. Comeback Tonight Aaron ne 1007 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 2: smith has just gotten like ten percent better, at everything 1008 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 2: and that has made a. Big difference like he's a 1009 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 2: more of a, knockdown shooter he's better. Attacking closeouts there 1010 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 2: we can go down, the roster BUT like, i mean 1011 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: there's just so many Guys Like. Miles turner like there's 1012 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: been so much talk about whether or Not the pacers 1013 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: would re Up With, miles turner whether or not he'd 1014 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 2: be a. Free agent, to me he's such a core 1015 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: part of what Makes the pacers great on both ends of. 1016 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: THE floor i don't see how they can move On From. 1017 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 2: Miles TURNER like i understand you might have to make 1018 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: a really tough, decision financially and that may be, the 1019 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 2: case but like if you can somehow, retain him you 1020 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 2: got to. Retain him he's just. So important but as 1021 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: a team they're just kind of incrementally better down the 1022 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: roster And then tyree's has a, superstar upside and that 1023 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: to me is all it takes to make them a 1024 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 2: legitimate championship threat in a way that they weren't in. 1025 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 5: Years, PAST yeah i also think that we probably underestimated 1026 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: as a collective be, you know it's, relevant now especially With. 1027 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 5: Top curry the hamstring Injury That tyres haliburton had. 1028 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 4: Last season he. 1029 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: He, you know by the time the playoffs, came back 1030 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 5: it felt like he was more or less back to pre, 1031 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 5: injury yourself but it's probably fair to say he was 1032 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 5: at eighty, five percent maybe, ninety eight, eighty percent maybe 1033 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 5: something in that sort, of range and that's going to 1034 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 5: make it specifically tough to. BEAT switches I would i 1035 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 5: would argue it's it's probably evidence as the fact that 1036 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 5: he's able to, you know Blow by giannis in the 1037 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 5: clutch moment and get major separation thing for a game. 1038 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 5: Winner tonight he looks very healthy and very, very good 1039 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 5: and that's, you know important to remember as we're thinking 1040 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 5: About up curry's. Come Back tyre's halliburton took. Six months 1041 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 5: not that, you know, It's different every situation, is different. 1042 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 5: Person's different he took functionally six months to get back 1043 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 5: to one. 1044 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 2: Hundred, percent yeah his was a more severe, handstring injury, 1045 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: but yeah the point, still stands, which is like it 1046 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: there's also a, Trust, element, LIKE dude i had a 1047 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: foot Injury in juco where for an, entire semester all 1048 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 2: of non, CONFERENCE play i was a shell of MYSELF 1049 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: because i didn't trust my ability to plant, that foot, 1050 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: and like and it just it causes you to. Play 1051 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: passively it causes you to kind of hold like fifteen 1052 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: percent of your intensity. And RESERVE and i think that 1053 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: there's an important element, to, where Like if steph doesn't 1054 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 2: feel comfortable really pushing off, that leg it's. A problem 1055 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: and there's no point In having steph go out there 1056 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: if he's going to be a shell of himself and 1057 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: not be nearly as impactful as he needs. To be 1058 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 2: but hopefully we'll get some better news ABOUT the. Mri 1059 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 2: tomorrow that's all we have for tonight, on, YouTube guys 1060 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 2: we're headed over. To playback we'll see you guys there 1061 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: just a. Few minutes remember link is in the, description 1062 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: here going to be, taking callers taking, more questions getting into. 1063 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 2: Some film we'll see, you guys over there in just a. 1064 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: Few minutes, what's. Up guys, AS always i appreciate you 1065 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 2: for listening to AND supporting. Oops tonight it would actually 1066 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: be really helpful for us if you guys would take 1067 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: a second and leave a rating and. 1068 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 3: A review, AS always i appreciate you. 1069 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: Guys, supporting us but if you could take a minute to, 1070 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: Do that i'd really. 1071 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 5: Appreciate it the volume