1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo. 2 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Experienced Podcast. I am your active and 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: attractive hosts for another episode of the fastest growing podcasts 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: in the world. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: You know the values. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: Oftentimes in this game, You know, I speak to a 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: lot of people. I got the whole game right now. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Man. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: I go from athletes to rappers, the entertainers, the lawyers, 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: the doctors, entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, dope sellers, dope dealers. Is that 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: beat life? Is that got life? I go all the 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: way down in there, and I go all the way 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: up to the top. So in this game, it's rare 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: to see this. What we're doing today is we're sitting 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: down with another legend. We got rich Homi kwahan. What's 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: going on? 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Oh man? What do you do? What do you do? Man? 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Is love? Is love? Man? What you've been up to? 19 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: Oh Man? 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Working, staying out of the way, but at the same time, man, 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: trying to stay productive and jump back in this music shit, man, 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent all feet, Man, stay on my tent toes, 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: keep them my relation ship and just coming in with 24 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: a different mind frame. 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Bro, you know for sure did you on your time off? First? 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about what even made you take the time. 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: What started? 28 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: What started you relaxing with the music? Started me relaxing 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: with the music? Was uh? 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: At that time, bro, I was going through a litigation 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: with my former my former label T I G. So 32 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: technically I couldn't drop no music for like two years. 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: But in that process, this cloud came in my head. 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: I ain't want to drop no music if I could. 35 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying right, So with that, I mean, 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: because I tell you what I think you was running 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: the game right. What happened was when I look at it, 38 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: I see Kve shout drop that what was that song 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: back in? 40 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: That motherfucker went stupid? That changed? 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: That had something with the sound, now, yeah, yeah that 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: was part of Yeah Cartlanta run the sound for sure, 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: for show for sure. So we don't even gott to 44 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: keep specifying, al right, because the style that come from 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Atlanta is the style that everybody adopted. 46 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: You feel me now here? 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: The thing I think when he dropped that keisha, he 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: couldn't carry it though. 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: His next one is the next couple. 50 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: See, it's almost like I look at this game like 51 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: a caring furniture something right, he got it, he's struggling 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: with it. But we know, damn he slick got it up. Yeah, 53 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: he you come with some help. He'll Thug come with 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: some help. He'll Pluto come with some help. Therez Deshaun, 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: come with some help. You right in regards to that. 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: But you was early on, and I think your song 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: did a whole lot with type of way, the impact 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: of that. Let's live there for a second. Were you 59 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Were you alive in that moment? Oh type of way man? 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: I kind of remember it like it was yesterday. I 61 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: did it an eight county studio in Atlanta. I ended 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: up getting a beat from my buddy South Carolina man 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: named Carter X. 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Let me fix them. 65 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So back to the type of way man, or 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: like type of way being my first song man did 67 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: it at a cunt studio. And when I did it, 68 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: bro to be honest, I didn't know type of way, 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: what was what it was gonna be. I had no 70 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: idea it was a hit. I couldn't identify and hit 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: from a good song. I only went in the studio 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: to write a good song, like I don't go in 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: the studio to make hit. 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: So I just thought it was a good song man. 75 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: Now that's important. 76 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Let's hold on because it's a difference between the hit 77 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: and a good song, and then it's a It's a 78 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: motherfucking attribute to be able to identify that. Yes, yes, 79 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: So when you deal with the hit song from your perspective, 80 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: what was a good song? What did that mean to you? 81 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: Just a song people jamming to? Uh not more so 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: like a song people jamming too. More so a song 83 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: people can fit. You know what I'm saying. 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: It's differently. 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: You can feel a song opposed to hear a song. 86 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: That's always my thing. I want you to feel it, man, 87 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I wanted to be relatable. I want you to feel 88 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: like this song was made for you, like you rapping 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: or you talking. So it's like when I get in 90 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: there and made them songs, I like them to be 91 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: a feeling in some type of way. It was that 92 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: little feeling. I felt it and I wanted the world 93 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: to feel that. Or did go crazy? Did you make 94 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: enough money to quit off that? You can always of 95 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: course yes, yes, I made enough money to quit. But 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: in my mind, like I was just getting started, like 97 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: I hadn't even scratched the surface yet. 98 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: You got to think music this something I love to do. Right, Like, 100 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: ain't too many things I'm good at, man, you know 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 102 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: Music one of them. 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: Man, I wasn't like after me feeling it, feeling that 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: little bit of success or feeling that success, you know 105 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: what I mean? 106 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: That did some of my brain in my mind. 107 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: I had to write new goals down because at first, man, 108 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: being coming out of Atlanta, my goals we going outside 109 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: of two eighty five. 110 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: For sure. 111 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: If in me that's all I had saw, that's all 112 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: I knew. Right, The music just showed me a whole 113 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: different outlet. Well, some type of way showed me a 114 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: whole different outlet. Do you think that because your vision 115 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 2: didn't go past two eighty five, that may be why 116 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: you did identify the song to be worldwide? I would 117 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: definitely agree to that. I didn't identify the song to 118 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: go worldwide because like I was just making a song 119 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: for my homie. I was just making song for my family, 120 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: like for my brother, like stuff. I always make the 121 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: music and stuff I want to hear, Like despite how 122 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: vulnerable I may get in the song, it's what I 123 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: want to hear, right, and we powerful. 124 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: So we got to know that us in our raws 125 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: form is value. Yeah, for so for sure. 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: So even when you say that, like yo, I just 127 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: want them to feel it. It's for my brother, my cousin, 128 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: these people, I want them to understand it like that's 129 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: us in our raws form and it's value in that. 130 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: So now I know you identify that because you're a businessman, 131 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: but with type of weight in your hand. And the 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: reason why I'm living right there, bro is because like 133 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: me right now with podcasting, I'm turning out and turned 134 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: a million down. I turned a couple of deals down 135 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: where it's like I'm asking myself when to do the 136 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: or when not to take the money. So what you 137 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: had took the money from t ig, which it propelled you, 138 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: but on the other side it slowed you down when 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: you had to go to litigation. Yes, so had you 140 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: not took the money because type of way was type 141 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: away without influence. So had you not took the money 142 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: and not took that layoff, what would rich Homie Kwan 143 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: be it? Well, rich On Koran b Man, Like do 144 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: you ever think about that? Of course? 145 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: Man? 146 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, Like I used to have sleepless 147 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: nights like like why me, Like now what I do? 148 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Man? 149 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: I thought I was doing everything by the books. You 150 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Of course, you know what I'm saying. 151 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: I had those. 152 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Conversations, man, you know what I mean. 153 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing was just going from like 154 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars the show bro to nothing, not 155 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: having no should for like three months. That man, Like, 156 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 2: imagine that dud your mind, right, even if you still 157 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: got a bank roll. Yeah, you could still have six 158 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: million in the cut, but down they done, just cut 159 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: mouth damn so then like the point like when my 160 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: shouls like my should so down, that's what made me 161 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: like put my antennas on, like well like damn, what 162 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: the hell my radio money this? I'm just wanting to 163 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: get more into it my business. It wasn't never too 164 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: late because at the time, like I always had, like 165 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times man, with these labels, 166 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: in these execs due when it's time to go to court, 167 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: they try to drag you out. Man, can they know 168 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: you spending money and nigga don't have enough money to 169 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: fight the little so at that time, you know you'll 170 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: just take it right right. 171 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Extra at that point of your brain, Now it ain't extra, you. 172 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Old that come on and like me, man, like I 173 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: always had some paper put up, I'm always gonna like 174 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: I want to stop today. 175 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Man, I could do that and live comfortably. 176 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: That's good. But I just like where I come from, Man, 177 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: we won't give up from nothing. We stop when we 178 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: were ready to start and stopping and tell us now 179 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: hard to stop right when you But but when you 180 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: went from one hundred thousand dollars a show to zero, 181 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: what was the feelings? 182 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Though? 183 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: The feelings were more like because at the same time, 184 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: like the hundred out and all the show man, I 185 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: had only got that one time, like we had got 186 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: up to some sixties and seventies even some like some eighties, 187 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: but you was constant though, yeah whatever the numbers were, Yeah, 188 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: like there was a consistent number, right, you know what 189 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: I mean? 190 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: So that that was cool. 191 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: But it's like when we hit that hundred and it's 192 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: just like twenty fourteen, like doing hundreds then right in 193 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: my mind, I'm not knowing like it's hard to make 194 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: a hundred thousand in the club back then. I'm just 195 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: thinking at one hundred thousand things or if somebody one 196 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: person paid me that everybody should be paying me that 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: and me not knowing like no knowing the game. Man, 198 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: I was a student then I was a student and 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: it was a lot of shit. 200 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: I was still learning. I didn't know. Was you arrogant though? 201 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: When it was popping, I'll be allowed to say I 202 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: wasn't arrogant, you know what I mean? 203 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, like my people tell you like because. 204 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: You went up though, you went big and it was 205 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: it was a fast Yeah, man, we gotta be careful 206 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: when we get that money in that fame shore. But 207 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: at the same time, that's why I credit my team, 208 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: like for me having my family around niggas. 209 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Let me know I'm tripping, right, you know what I mean? 210 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: Me not looking at it like I ain't tripping, Like 211 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: I had to look at that man in the mirror. Like, 212 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: but you can't blame this on nobody with yourself, right, 213 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We just happen to have 214 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: that talk with myself, like you tripping. Yeah, because I 215 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: heard you say. I heard you say that. Some of 216 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: the producers went left. Yeah, yeah for show that. 217 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: And it's like, do you think they got the Rogan 218 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: version of Korn? Do that? 219 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: Do that play into that? I can't even say that. No, 220 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: So they just didn't keep it solid. Yeah, they ain't 221 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: keep it soult and they know that, you know what 222 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I ain't even know that they though they 223 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: ain't keep us outing. They had nothing to do with 224 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: quin as an individual because how much I'm in tune 225 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: with music, and I would have never brought them suff 226 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: if I don't feel like when you had no relationship. 227 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we was in that moment, you know 228 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, right right, So like you know what 229 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, It is what it is, But nah, you 230 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: can't blame it on the person I was then, Oh 231 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: on my mind? Was I was coherent when it came 232 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: to making music exactly a lot of my relationships came 233 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: from me missing radio or me missing big shows for 234 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: the radio and stuff of that nature. 235 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: You know that I just didn't get there, right, you 236 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 237 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: The money was I was talking about, you know, the 238 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: radio like it's a little lord because they showing love 239 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: on the radio side. So they saying you got with 240 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: this fuster with but me not knowing that all I'm 241 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: thinking it's the hundred in my brain. Yeah, and I 242 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: knowing this business and the winning. Yeah, you know what 243 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: did you think it ever stopped though. The money Now 244 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: when that ship go to popping, don't know, think it's 245 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: still season that. 246 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Come from what I came from. 247 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: And at that time, like I never even thought it 248 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: would slow down, not even getting no money for no show. 249 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I never even thought, bro, I. 250 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: Was on the road five days a week, with seven 251 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: days being a total win the week. 252 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Man. 253 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like for real, I 254 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: was on their home two days, right and I'm two 255 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: days like a Monday of Tuesday I'm calling from when 256 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and every week and you know what, it's 257 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: almost like when a nigga when he is at home 258 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: and he sit back and think through itself. I was 259 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: hopping or I am popping like this. I just don't 260 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: see it slowing down. 261 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Feel now, you. 262 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: Don't, man, like the money you get, you're getting afforded 263 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: fitty every five days a week, man, five times five 264 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: man with that twenty five going crazy? 265 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: Come on, man, like think about it too fit. 266 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: The week going crazy? It's two fifty month, so it's 267 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: all like, who's gonna tell me? Like even though I'm 268 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: in the studio, like I knew, I was feeling myself 269 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: for the money or two had got my head when 270 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even listen to I wouldn't even let it 271 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: partique my music. I ain't want to hear why you 272 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: made two fifty a week? How you gonna tell me this? 273 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: Like yeah, get deal? Yeah yeah you hating and yeah 274 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: yeah I need that's deep as deep right, that's deep 275 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: yeah so so so I'm saying, that's the point when 276 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: you look back at it, that's the point when you 277 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: say I was tripping. 278 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: I ain't even letting my people critique the music. 279 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: They can't even tell me down that line right there 280 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: kind of off corn or the same related this. They 281 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: can't tell me nothing. I was tripping, for sure. But 282 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: when I look at it, I had to go through 283 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: that ship. I had to be that person at that time, 284 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: shaping your character. I had to because if I wouldn't know, bro, 285 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: I ain't, I'd probably be a nigga. I wouldn't enjoy 286 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: what I'm doing, right, So, like, I had to go 287 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: through the moments and no, like I never even put 288 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: my in that type of situation no more. You know 289 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I've grown. I had to see that 290 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: type of meat in me to know that's not what 291 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: I want to be if it, But experience is the 292 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: best teacher, and until you go through that, you can't 293 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: tell how you'll react. You ain't never been nowhere, bro, 294 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: You ain't never ain't never been over me, right, And 295 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: that's the thing critical. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't never 296 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: been up for me, right. That's why I had to 297 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: call people in the game that's already in cash checks, like, look, man, 298 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: this when do I what do I do with this? 299 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Now here's what I think 300 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: with the game. It's almost like you. And it may 301 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: be a few other examples that consumers or the casual 302 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: fans that look at and say fell off at a 303 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: certain point of time. 304 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Your sound didn't change. 305 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: So I want to understand how did that feel knowing that, Naw, 306 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm still that as far as if I get in 307 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: the booth right now, I'm creating on the same level 308 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: when I was getting. 309 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: A hundred thousand dollars a show. 310 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: So how did that feel? Knowing that the sound ain't 311 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: why I took a dive. It was the litigation and 312 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: my absence that played a big part, man, with the 313 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: cloud being over my head, bro, cause in my mind 314 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: like I know I can't drop, but I hear my 315 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: sound and damn the every song that I do here, 316 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, You definitely got some ingredients 317 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: out there. Yes, so that was called my mental you 318 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But at the same time, like 319 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: that was part of the motivation where I had to 320 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: get back into you to let us know what the 321 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: source is, to let you know who the source is. 322 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, let you know. 323 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Like it's different when it comes from the source, like 324 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: it show you what what's trying to be created. You know, 325 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: usually when it comes from the sources, pure in all forms, 326 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: in all forms, that's for sure. 327 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: If you had to do a versus today, who you 328 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: would do it versus again? If I had to do 329 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: it versus to day? 330 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Man, Like even like when I tell my team, I 331 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: try not even talk about versus and this ain't no 332 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: shade diversites. But I just feel like versus are for 333 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: washed up and this ain't that because like or I 334 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: ain't gonna stay washed up for you. Tube had like 335 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: fifteen years or twenty years in the game, like to 336 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: have a catalog, catalog, like you got to think all 337 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: the work I'll put in to do it versus only 338 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: from my last ten years, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 339 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for that ten years. But man, I talk 340 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: about a versus man probably like give me twenty years 341 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: in the game, bro fifteen at that. Still I'm still 342 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: on the road book. We don't got time to do 343 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: no versus, right, And you know what it is. It's 344 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: like in media that's a lick way to ask you 345 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: who your competition And it ain't nothing like because like man, 346 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: we all we all fight, oh, we all working to 347 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: get our bag and feed our family. But when that 348 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: time came and I don't know, there has to be 349 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: somebody that came out around me man who probably got 350 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: like a similar rundown to what I got, So it'll 351 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: be fell. 352 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: But like, I ain't that no versus man. I ain't 353 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: even trying to do no versus. 354 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: Like they can't give you enough money to do one. No, 355 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: not no time soon because I'm still working on my crow. 356 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: Do you think versus kill your brad, not kill your brand, 357 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: but make people view it like you you you done 358 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: now or you kind of It's either that or you 359 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: can go about versus like jadakids like gave me a 360 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: whole different perspective kill His price definitely went up, right, 361 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: But it's very rare. You see those, right, you see 362 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's almost like Andy Jadakin's been 363 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: in the game with twenty plus. So it's like the 364 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: people who've been on verses Bro, Like you had Teddy 365 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: Riley on that ship. I'm not getting Teddy, but that 366 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like thirty years in the game, 367 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: that's for sure. I'm still working, man, I'm still I'm 368 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: still peddling. Like when I stop and chill then I 369 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: think about it versus man, I ain't chilling. 370 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Man. 371 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: We in fud th Bro Right, when you went to 372 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: court with T I g the settlement? Was that enough 373 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: money to did you smile let it or did you 374 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: expect it? Was it more than you expected or under 375 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: what you expected? To be honest, man, it was fairly 376 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: what I expected. It wasn't under it went over. It's 377 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: what I Yeah, it's kind of what I expected because 378 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: it was like to the T we had. You kind 379 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: of had the numbers. Man, I knew exactly what it 380 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: was gonna be. But like, was I excited? 381 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Nah? 382 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: I was more upset because I knew the relationship ain't 383 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: gonna never be what it was, and that gave that. 384 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Changed my life. That helped change my life. Bro. 385 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: So it was like, damn, man, I lose like a 386 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: big brother than me, but you get the money. Yeah, 387 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So it be it'd be 388 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: a bittersweet, man, would you do that different or you 389 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: need that money? I definitely needed that money. But like 390 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: like I always say, b all my interviews like this, 391 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: ain't this ain't like you're getting me like we do 392 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: a deal together. 393 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: You're giving me extra you looking at me. That's just 394 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: what I'm right for exactly exactly. 395 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: It ain't like like I wouldn't do nothing different because 396 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: I want the money that we you know what I'm saying. 397 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: We agreed the point. 398 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: We agreed no to disperse, right, But if it could 399 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: have played that differently, of course, I wish you would 400 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: have played that different man, you know what I'm saying. 401 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: And you know what I know. He went and got 402 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 2: Luchi when y'all were going through our self and we 403 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: the culture, the music business kind of view Luca as 404 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: your replacement or your kind of your competition type of thing. Now, 405 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: what's crazy. Is is that your relationship with Luci seemed 406 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: to be okay, No, no, that's that's my dog man. 407 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: And you know, like just him being in that like 408 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: it was just times I would just you know. 409 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: Put them up on games like broke. Did you feel 410 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: a way though, Nah? Man? I couldn't feel no way. 411 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Man, you know you old money and he goes sign 412 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: or saying kicking and you don't feel nothing. I didn't 413 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: feel no way, And it's just me being like this, 414 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 2: me being realized. I didn't feel no way because at 415 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: the end, because like I know, Fly, I'm gonna get 416 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: my money, like now not the money he like again 417 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: the people looking at all, right, kun is this? 418 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: He did? 419 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: Sound he giving us this monotone vibe and then boom 420 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: he looch it pop up. Now it's different from Quorn, 421 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: but it's the vibes either of the Atlanta vibes. So 422 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: it's almost like damn, Wing got mild wings, but we 423 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: got terryock. You see what I'm saying Now, it depends 424 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: on if you with wing right, So if you with 425 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: that kind of style and they present that in place 426 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: of damn you understand, I'm listen, I'm telling you me 427 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: for show. Then I'm post to feeler type of way 428 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to. But bro me man and knowing me, Man, 429 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: I didn't, that's just me. 430 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: You feel me. I didn't like you got. 431 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: But the UK one in tell me you were arrogant 432 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: and then tell me the arrogant get a replacement ball in. 433 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the old honey. 434 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: But this before this, before I'm feeling like that, you 435 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: got to think was coming around? 436 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Was it? Okay? Was coming off a sign? You feel 437 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: me like when I was. 438 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: But he put the gas on him though when when 439 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: she with you? Because he got a hustle, respectfully, le 440 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: bro like he got to keep. Yeah, I'm looking at 441 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: this to be the man. You don't got corn no more. 442 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: You don't got to the house. 443 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: He got to keep. I got to keep the light. 444 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: And I got relationships I can kind of steal. 445 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm a hustler, and so I ain't saying 446 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: Phil away because he hustling. 447 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: The game is the game. 448 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: But but your but you say no, we got to 449 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: move past it, Okay, So off off of looch Luchen 450 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: thug situation was unfortunate, right, they had to run in 451 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: and it kind of seemed like you're running with Luchi 452 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: kind of caused you not to be able to be 453 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: as involved with Thug as you may have wanted to be. 454 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Did you ever miss Thug while he was on the 455 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: run without you? M Slyme went on a mean run? 456 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: Listen fool, Yeah, miss miss is a mean word, though, listen, 457 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: miss is a strong word. 458 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 459 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: I'd be lying to set because I was gonna try 460 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: to put a different way, But like I missed them 461 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: vibes in the Oaks. 462 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I can't lie and deny it. 463 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: I'm like the vibe like uncomparable, Like I can't replay it, 464 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: can't you know what I'm saying, Like why always you 465 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: play it but can't relimber them? 466 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, bruh the sound. 467 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, y'all, whole situation crazy because I 468 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: look at y'all and I look at Boost and Webbing, right, 469 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: you kind of went before him, kind of like Webby 470 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: went before Boosy, and it was like we still partners, 471 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: we still lost, but I kind of done one of 472 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: these don't win for sure, you know, and he you 473 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: is on your way and it's like somewhere switched and 474 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying, damn, why they can't. 475 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: But I know it's more than mester eye. 476 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: Right, It's good to hear you say that you missed 477 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: them them them times in the yo because creatively y'all 478 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: was smash and ship. It was right, it was like 479 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: it was hard, like I can't put my finger on 480 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: the man. That sh it was just it was a 481 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: time to be alive. Y'all didn't document none of this. 482 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Got none of this cameras or none. 483 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: It's really before like what social media is. I'm talking 484 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: about video camera. No big and Park was on cameras, 485 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: so niggas camera something. Yeah, none of that. That was 486 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: a doctor. That's a that's a that's a twenty million 487 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: dollar bag right there. Just just say from there. 488 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, with involvement with bird Man, you hear that all 489 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: the most probably get like behind the scenes on videos 490 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: and shit, right, I know bird got that. 491 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: Bird got that. What you think about bird Man? What's 492 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: your feeling up? Bird Man? He a legend in mine. 493 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: I want to be clean on myself and you say 494 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: what you want because this platform is to is to 495 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: speak their mind and we respectful, but we real. Yeah, 496 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: I don't got no ill finish against bird You know 497 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like Bird saw our opportunity he can 498 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: put hisself in and made some money on That's what 499 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: he did. 500 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: You gotta respect Bird for that. 501 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: But you know, me coming there as as an artist, 502 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: I feel some type of way, you know what I'm 503 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: saying that song of a call man. Bird you know 504 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: he ain't had a b and like he supposed to 505 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: hand the business when it came out to the rich 506 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: game situation. And I ain't never just said that, but Bird, 507 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: you know he handle the situation like he supposed to 508 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: handle it. Man, what was it? Contracts much? It wasn't 509 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: nont It wasn't no promises. Man, you gotta just think 510 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: like prior to that, I met Birder through Thorg. You 511 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying This Me and Thor just being 512 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: in the Yo every day kicking it. You know what 513 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Uh, it went from that to me being birded. 514 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: I forget the rich Carton on Bird tour bus from 515 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: the two bus men. 516 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Thug is still in the Yo. Bird ran out the 517 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Dark Studio Dallas. 518 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: Sauce Studio three months when that's just working probably into 519 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: the three months. 520 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: Birdy may come up there a month later. My nephew. 521 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I love what y'all doing. You know what I'm saying. 522 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: I want you all to you know, put this ship together. 523 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Y'all gotta put this out. I'm like, hell, yeah, man, 524 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: let's put this out. Like I know, my paperworking shit 525 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: is straight. I mean, I got great lawyers. You know 526 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was just we didn't know how 527 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: the music was gonna come out. With the music coming 528 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: out under Rich Game, I didn't own Rich Game, or 529 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: thought didn't own Rich Game. We were a solo arted 530 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: bird owned it. That So. 531 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: That's the part I mean I'm saying. But where you 532 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: were paid for those sauce on the way we were 533 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: paying this time to Screaming Change, Yeah, through publishingly way 534 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: would have been paid. But I'm not saying like I'm 535 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: not saying because that's what I was gonna get paid publishing. 536 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Played somewhere, they're gonna get that. But what I'm saying 537 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: is with it coming out under rich Game and goes 538 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: to Rich. 539 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: Game exactly, so you don't even know what it is. 540 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: What's going on? Off me to go and collect when 541 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: you know. 542 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, do you think bird Man had some uh. 543 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: He was apprehensive because of your legal situation with t Ig. 544 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: Nah, this before the legal situation, so you wasn't even 545 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: this wasn't even brought to me. 546 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: T Ig hadn't even hit the fand damn you feel me. 547 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, c Ig hadn't hit the 548 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: fan yet. You know what I'm saying. Just you know 549 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying from me, like I said in My 550 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: Man like at this point, I'm probably in the game 551 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: back three four years now, so I'm not just as 552 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: knowledgeable as I am now. But shit, I know a 553 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: liberty like knowing what I got. I got one of 554 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: the best lawyers I know. Like my publishing, shit's great. 555 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: Longs get paid, I'm gonna be accounted for it. But 556 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: it's different when you upload my music. The chick goes 557 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: you and you have to disperse the check to me. 558 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Damn Yeah, did you so? 559 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: Growing up? 560 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: Did you look at bird What was it like being 561 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: around Bird? Oh? 562 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: Man, I can't tell you no bad story. I don't 563 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: got nothing foul to say about bird Man. You know 564 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And the person, his character tremendous, but 565 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: the business probably a little shaky. 566 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he said he took care 567 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: of you, but he'll owe you no money. 568 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: Don't owe me nothing. Yeah, because he said he said 569 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: he straight now you owe me nothing. He hold me nothing. Man, 570 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm not told me nothing. You don't got all your 571 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: I got people in the position that's gonna go out 572 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: there and get that to make sure of my tea 573 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: is a crossing my eyes. And that is so I 574 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: just won't never put myself in that type of situation anymore, 575 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Or letting somebody else upload 576 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: my music type now on all my months, so if anything, 577 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna upload my own. 578 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Sure, don't got to go through that. 579 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: And I give you what you rightfully old, Right, that's 580 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: split learning listen to go through when you're young, when 581 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: you get older one, You know what I'm saying, Experience 582 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: is the best teacher. Do you remember what it was 583 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: like getting on like before type of way? And do 584 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: you remember those days? 585 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: Hey? Yeah, I remember. 586 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: You can't you can't forget him. I was smoking mid 587 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: in my car two for five. You know what I'm saying. 588 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you what you upset like in that time? 589 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 2: Did you have to work hard at was the record? 590 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: So what did the record do so much? Did it 591 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: just switched to where you ain't do no whole bunch 592 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: of grinding, little bitty shows for this amount of money 593 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: and things like that. 594 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: No, Man, I was so hungry, bro, that was one 595 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: thing I didn't know. 596 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: Like, I was so hungry before I got with a 597 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: tig or anything. 598 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: Man, That's the only thing I just like reminis. 599 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: It's about that hunger in this I had then, Like 600 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: like I remember my first show I booked for my 601 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 2: Mama House for eight hundred dollars in hotel rooms, bro, 602 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: And it's about Nigga, twenty five of us in one 603 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: hotel room. I didn't know nothing about a router, but 604 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: it was so fun to me, right, you know what 605 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I just did this for my mama house 606 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Right, Why these king it don't even 607 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: know my first name. I feel like I'm finna go 608 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: back home and lending show. And it went from me 609 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: booking that first show that weekend, I had another show 610 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: book the next weekend somewhere around that same area. After 611 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: that weekend, I ain't been home the whole week since that. 612 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: For a week. I book myself, damn and it's far 613 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: I got with TG. 614 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was them shows that made t ig like man. 615 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: Make he making money. 616 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: See the thing about now is they want you to 617 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: be making money for they, and that's that's. 618 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: A business man for you, because it's being a business. 619 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: But it ain't the music business. 620 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 2: It's usually the music business is if your music is 621 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: in a certain position, I'm. 622 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Gonna do the business. You the music, I'm the business. 623 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. 624 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: But now they done turned it all business. It's very 625 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: little music. That's why your sound cannot change but not 626 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: get the same respect that it used to get. Is 627 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: because it ain't about the sound. It's more business wrapped 628 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: around it than it is music. 629 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying Now? 630 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: Getting on one time is hard for sure, Getting back 631 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: on even harder the hardest. Do you feel that? Oh 632 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: not really? Man, only because like this shit probably more 633 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: fun now than it was the first time, because I 634 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: know the game, so I'm able to play the game 635 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: like your first time. 636 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: Bro. 637 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: I had so many feelings and this shit right for 638 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 2: the one texting bad bro, I'm ready to go on 639 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: Twitter and alu A, this was my man, Man, we 640 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: got to talk about that because I'm new to this 641 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: game and it's a lot of bullsh It's a lot 642 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: of bullsh It's a lot of you know, bruh, you 643 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: the truth you ain't posted ever. 644 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: You don't want your fans to see this ship, like bro. 645 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: This is the thing man, with this social media game 646 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: and it's entertainment business we're in. Sometimes I think the 647 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: guys ahead of me getting confused. They're leading the races, 648 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: winning the race, I understand, and from behind them that 649 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: they can't with me. 650 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: You understand. 651 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: So I understand that they understand that I'm behind them, 652 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: but they can't. So that's why you don't see the 653 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: assist or the handoffs or the looks. That's why I 654 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: always got to give it love the baby, because what 655 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: baby just did is. 656 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: Put me in front of them. 657 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: There, y'all niggas try to hide out. Y'all want to 658 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: hide the truth. We're gonna it's right here. Deal with it, 659 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: and that's what you looking to do. Put the same 660 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: coin they took over the world. Then ain't nothing changed. 661 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: I want to put that ship back in front them, folks, 662 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: but they gonna in front of you again. 663 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: You dealing with this you got in front of you, 664 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: they know, but you behind them. They can't with you. 665 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: And don't put that light on that boy, you know, 666 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: like with me knowing like the business now, will me 667 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: knowing now not to have no feelers in this ship 668 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: because me knowing some business, that's exactly what I'm treating 669 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: it like. And I'm having fun doing it because this 670 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: is still what I love to do, my nigga. 671 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: You love to do it alone, not alone, man, Like 672 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: I feel like, man, I should give my team up 673 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: praise and I get on bro, because there'll be a 674 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: whole lot of days when I don't even feel like 675 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: being rich on me, right, you know what I'm saying. Right, 676 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: But it's like, man, there's so much shit they do, like, uh, 677 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: they don't. They don't get seen, bro, Like they's the reason, 678 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: like I'm bigger than what I am or the reason 679 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: I got my confidence back to why I got it? 680 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Reminded me every day, like 681 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: why you that nigga? Man? You know what I'm saying. 682 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: And again even when you again that sound you had, 683 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: what about the yo goides is of the world, the 684 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: YG's of the world, The Jesus of the world, those 685 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: that you step next to in their time when they 686 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: kind of needed a push or maybe needed that record 687 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: that appealed to that undeserved audience that they maybe couldn't 688 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: tap in at that time. 689 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Do you what would speak on them? Do they steal 690 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: because you need you really need a look from a 691 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: God that you really need. 692 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: Gotty to say, bag home and helped me when I 693 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: was in the band get on that thing with with 694 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: with Homie, jump on that. 695 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: So like this is me being out the way one 696 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: man like. 697 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: Me as a person, I don't look for that, but 698 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: me as me being on my business in now on 699 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: the game. Of course, I can see your ego, bro, 700 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: like I can see you saying, Man, I don't want 701 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to say I need to 702 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: really come over here with this shit. But you missing 703 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: the point exactly. You was in a situation when you 704 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: was that to be able to hand that audience to 705 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: it for handing that look toward Niger. And I'm from 706 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: Tennessee and God respect and love for got it. But 707 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: my job is to have a real conversation. So I'm 708 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: asking you, do you feel like God it should put 709 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: you in a situation to either he help. 710 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: You, not that you need it. 711 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: Let's clear the smoke ain't no understand missing he don't 712 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: need to help. 713 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: Be rich as a motherfucker and gonna create without it. 714 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: But I want to know in your heart or heart 715 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 2: do you say, man, I gave duel them, my nigga, 716 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: I gave dueling them. 717 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Uh? I know you know what I'm saying, how they 718 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: feel to you? Bro? The don't feel no way? 719 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 2: And this little just on telling you like got it, 720 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: got it and reached out like when I had that 721 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: dark cloud over my head. That's real, Like corn pull 722 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: up to me, pull up on me. You know what 723 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like sh Corn, get in there with bad 724 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: like me being who I am. I just didn't do it. 725 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do Like my mental wasn't dead 726 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: in you know what I'm saying, Like my mind went. 727 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Where is it today? You feel me? 728 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: So even when when got It reached out a year 729 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: two ago, man, got it? Try to sign you wanted 730 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: to put a play together like this on the cloud 731 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: on my head. 732 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: So that's real. 733 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't like got it one of the really real ones, man, 734 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: the real ones who was still pulling up on me 735 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: at the house. And I'm saying from anybody from self, 736 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: m G. Man, I always show up. That's I just 737 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: wonder why I don't see you and maybe intertwining what's 738 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: up with defeats? 739 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I guess my question is not necessarily ain't they God? 740 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: I think I pinpointed God it in Jesus because you 741 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: helped them and relations with Jesus though none at all. 742 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I can't say that, man. I can't, so it'd be 743 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: different like and you would think, man, well, Jesus being 744 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: from Atlanta, he would reach Jesus. Don't do that, you know, 745 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: not that I expect the nigga to of course something, 746 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: but it ain't that. You know what I'm saying, And 747 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: like back to me on my ego quarantine, don't I 748 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: don't need none of them niggas. 749 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't. 750 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: I didn't pop with them like me being in my 751 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: brain somewhat, I ain't gonna need them go around. If 752 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: you want to come along, thank you. I appreciate it 753 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: what I did, what I did. But if you don't, 754 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: you know, if you don't want to know that, that's cool. 755 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: I ain't tripping. I'm a start passion dumb as they. 756 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Got the time. Even if it's a version of it, 757 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: it's your history. 758 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is your history, right, So there's no 759 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: I know. 760 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: And that's what that's the satisfaction I get. Bro. 761 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: You can't delete history. So that's all the satisfaction you want. 762 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: Whether they acknowledge it, whether they reach out, you don't 763 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: got to. 764 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: I know. 765 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: I've been puering number real to the if Jesus reach 766 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: out right now, say let's run that back. 767 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: Let get in. That's my thing. 768 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: Get to get on these songs and burn everything on 769 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: the on the verse one or verse two. You feel 770 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: like I don't got no ain't no feeling like he 771 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: called me tomorrow. 772 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: Hey yeah, gee, I know they saw the envy. I 773 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: had to keep it real. But they get it in tonight. 774 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: They know I'm high level game. I'm high level game. 775 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm putting game that ain't no disrespect. We figuring business 776 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: out right, and if you if you leggas saying right, we. 777 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: Gotta tell the kids how to get it right. 778 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what this whole ship is about. Ain't getting 779 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: the wrong. I'm gonna getting in. Yeah you too. 780 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: Now Here's where I find the problem at with with 781 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: with with your outlook on it respectfully, is that you 782 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: playing the I game like the street you understand put 783 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: it in the wash, it come out in the rents 784 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: when you playing our game, but you ain't playing technology game. 785 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: The reason I speak about features so much is because 786 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: now you're playing against the algorithm. So what happens is 787 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: when you get a song with a Jesus or you 788 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: get a song with a baby that affects YouTube and 789 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: away Apple Music in a way, play listing in a way, 790 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: it starts to connect. Shit, Oh Rich homes back with baby, 791 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: he's back with you jeans and got it bag. 792 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh pull him up. This is without them pulling you up. 793 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: That's again why what little Baby did was so important. 794 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: It's because ourgorithm wise it put it on next to 795 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: little baby in Apple, in Spotify, and you too, everywhere 796 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: you look loom next to baby. So what I'm saying is, 797 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: when you play the technology game, you gotta say, damn. 798 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: Features is important, not from a creative standpoint, strictly from 799 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: a business standpoint. And so I'm asking you do with 800 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: that information, do you reevaluate the way you look at features? 801 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: I got to you know what I'm saying. The keyword 802 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: algorithm right, because that's what you're playing. 803 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, brok't none of us crack that it's 804 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 2: certain names to stay on top of that market right now, 805 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: that if they don't some kind of so if you 806 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: can get you see this, And that's what I'm saying, 807 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 2: And that's why they hope you play yourself against yourself 808 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: like that and sit in that coner like mant call 809 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: now you got enough money to do that because I 810 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: can always look in the bank and say, man, then 811 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: broke man the nigga Man, I'm still up. 812 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: Man. 813 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: But when I'm talking about this business, I got to say, 814 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: all right, how I get my name next to X, 815 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: Y and Z in this algorithm? 816 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. 817 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: And so A got in a bag with got it 818 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: being a real one and being it was there next 819 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: to you. 820 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 1: I know because of what you said that he gonna 821 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: be able to say. 822 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: Do that, do that for bro, and y'all going up 823 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: and then bag is one of them names in the algorithm. 824 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: It's like it's up there. And so if you can right, 825 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 2: and that's this whole game. 826 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: Bro. You see what I'm saying. 827 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: This ain't about how we come up where it's like 828 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: now we all selling CD for sure, you know what 829 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I'm just trying to see you know, 830 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: because do you think features are even coming your way 831 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: like they should be by you being rich home? Uh, 832 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: they weren't coming my way, man, Like how I thought 833 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 2: they would be coming, like like the mother fuckers like 834 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: you couldn't name them, bro, doing I got a feature 835 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: a little Dickey. 836 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: Bro, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying little Dick. 837 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 838 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 2: So it's like I was just getting featured worse ass 839 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: like you wouldn't even think. I never even thought I 840 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: would hear my song, hear myself on the song with 841 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 2: like Austin mahme. 842 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know what I'm saying. Mariah care Bro, 843 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: you're going crazy. 844 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 2: And like yeah, so now like when I was going 845 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: through my when I was going through my me time, nah, man, 846 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't nobody reaching that. 847 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: Bro? What about now did they see you back outside? Everybody? 848 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: That's cool because again it's the algorithm play. It ain't personally. 849 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: You just said you playing business games. Yeah, but like 850 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: now I know and it ain't no feelings. But now 851 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: I know if I'm doing something with somebody on to 852 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: what I wasn't doing the first time exactly I'm pulling 853 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: up with the songs I'm pulling up with. I was 854 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: giving my shot. But now that's definitely that's why. Yeah, 855 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: and Man only do over me hop on my artist. 856 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: When you right when you ran out with the you 857 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: ran out for type of way, went on tour, went 858 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: on the role like you say, you've been booked up 859 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: forever in the day. 860 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: Then you latched on you and Thug lashed together. 861 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, bird Man, did the game feel different as a 862 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: group then, like, did you just did that? Did that 863 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: because it just feels like you had a ball of 864 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: energy around y'all? Yeah, Nah, we definitely had a ball 865 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 2: of energy man, And I think I think the ball 866 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 2: of energy just came like collectively from me and thought 867 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 2: just recording every day in the studio, you know what 868 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: I mean, growing together every day you feel me like 869 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: I just like I said earlier, like we was in 870 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: the studio for three months. It was to the second 871 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: month I saw bird Man Man brothers in the vibing 872 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: somebody I already created a chemistry. The first song we 873 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: do is get My Face. The first time I meet 874 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: bird man, like, if you come back to the studio, 875 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 2: I'll go back to the studio and nigga hit spaseball, 876 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: Get what song you play? 877 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: Lifestyle freak thug to freak gun talking gunner, everybody anybody charged. 878 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: Folks still got families to feed, so for sure, for 879 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: sure definitely. 880 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: Did So when with that being said, when you left Thug, 881 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: did it feel different? 882 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: How did it feel then? Like? When? 883 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: Because did they make people switch sides peak size? Was 884 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: it a weird energy in the game after that? I 885 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: ain't started feeling people picked sizes. I probably said like 886 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: a year after that, And I mean that's when the 887 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: producers came into place. 888 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: It's all like. 889 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: Who was the producer's mold in tune with? You were 890 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: the most of the ones who felt like they were 891 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: probably in the middle. 892 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: Can't be in the middle, y'all and grow up together. 893 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: We didn't, but they now y'all could have met at 894 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: the same time, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't 895 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: even say we met at the same time, man, because 896 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: there was something prod it on. 897 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: I want to be around. 898 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: I was the one like, okay, that's what you say, Okay, okay, okay, Damn, 899 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: that's deep, that's for show. D you know who bad 900 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 2: Bunny is? Yes, the Mexican rapper or the Latino rapper? Yeah, 901 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: this is this is uh, he killing it. I'm not 902 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 2: sure he kissing the man on TV wasn't. I would 903 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: think that's extra activity. 904 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: I was just trying to make it the same. Bad 905 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: Bunny I believe so, I definitely believe so. 906 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: But but but business wise, he's killing it, right. He's 907 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: at the top of the list, and that's cool. And 908 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: I watch all business. I'm important to the game because 909 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: I watch all this. Here's why I get some uncomfortable 910 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: feelings that and I want to speak to you about 911 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: it by being someone that may have found himself in 912 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: this kind of situation with bad Bunnies selling out. Like 913 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: he just had a record selling music business number in history. Yeah, 914 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 2: and it was like one hundred ninety eight million dollars 915 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: in the stream huh, not even the most stream, but 916 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: not even the top ten and the most he not. 917 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: I think that's all tour money, getting all his money 918 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: off the tour fans. If he ain't the most top ten, 919 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: that's deep. 920 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I know, I didn't know that. 921 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: Drake Lebron forgot that the list just came out like 922 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: top one hundred, damn. 923 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: But even like he shouldn't even be of a number 924 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: of them names the numbers. 925 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: Now he's but here's here's the thing, right, So with him, 926 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 2: and I mean talk to you about with him making 927 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: one hundred ninety eight million dollars last month off touring 928 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: and all that merch whatever he got going on, and he. 929 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: Bullied his deal. If you see, I'm to go get 930 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: the deal. 931 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: That's only how I made it this far, bro, I 932 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: kind of know it from the top to the bottom. 933 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: So you go get his deal. 934 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: And see he's bullying in people because he got so 935 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: much leverage, right, so he telling them what he'll take, 936 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: and I'm owning my master certain things. 937 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 1: He got a crazy deal. 938 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: But with him being in that position in our culture, 939 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: you think that we would look at that and say 940 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: clap form. But for some strange reason, I feel like 941 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: that our coach is waiting to take Drake's spot from him. 942 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: It's almost like they're happy to say, bad Bunny doing 943 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: better than Drake. He bigger than Drake. Bad Bunny, bigger 944 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: than Drake. Bad Bunny's fucking over Drake. He's streaming and 945 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: it's and I'm like, damn, Bro, they trying to it's 946 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: it's almost like they can't wait to you fall. I 947 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: think that's I don't know where comes from. I think 948 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 2: it's the man like right, flupost all that room for Drake, right, 949 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: he won us, Broke. He he's taking our ceiling and 950 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: doing it like this. And what I'm saying for when 951 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: I just said that, there's no reason Drake is the 952 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: most stream artists in the world. He don't have more 953 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 2: fans in his show them Dad, but he shouldn't do 954 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: that though he should have been there that months ago. 955 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: That's the point I'm making. But Behavis, bro, you know 956 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 957 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: For sure, you feel me like if together like these 958 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: women do at these shows, mant's be up through that. 959 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: If the niggas together like these women do when it 960 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 2: comes to the shows, when it comes to the merch, 961 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: just a support in general. 962 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: Right, And that's what I'm saying. 963 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 2: I came in this game, bro, not knowing I'm telling 964 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: I was talking to Wallow the other yesterday and I 965 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 2: always tell pe at QC like, Yo, I came in 966 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 2: this game thinking, ain't nobody gonna help me. 967 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: And so when you are going to a job. 968 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: Site and you're a construction worker, you put every tool 969 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 2: you need on your belt when you ain't expect no helper. 970 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: To be there. 971 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: You understand, I packed every god thing I needed in 972 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 2: my bag on the way to the journey. Right as 973 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: far as information, I'll let I got my ham on 974 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: my I don't need to call now, motherfucker. 975 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: Whatever pop up on the journey, I'm ready. 976 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: And I was telling them like it surprised me man 977 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: when like real or reaching out. 978 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: Hey, bro, no, you ain't you heavy lifting. 979 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm talking about we got meet meal, we got like 980 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying, just on a media standpoint, it's so refreshing. 981 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's waiting for something new in this media place, Like 982 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 2: everybody gonna shit you down and keep talking to you 983 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: about Biggie. Shout out the Biggie a r I Peter Biggie. 984 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: But what's up with our media? Damn homeman. 985 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Every wed gotta add this 986 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: man by what about Biggie? What about the same questions, 987 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 2: the same questions I want to talk to you about 988 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: that You've been everywhere because you activating and I need 989 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: the young to understand that there's a different hustle when 990 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: you activating and when you popping, when you sustain in 991 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: your leverage, and when you creating your leverage, no matter 992 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 2: who famous, no matter who got money, were talking about 993 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 2: business wise, you understood that you put your feet back 994 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 2: on the ground what you're going everywhere. How do you 995 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: feel about media? 996 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: Bro? How does media feel to you? 997 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten when I do media, if 998 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 2: you're like, it's choreographed, I said it right, Yeah, the choreograph, 999 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: like same questions, Like it's rarely like I feel like 1000 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 2: it's an interview or podcast you get the same question. 1001 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 2: So it's that makes it feel like work, right opposed 1002 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: to be doing like something I love, right, you know 1003 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So what you're doing different, man, the 1004 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: way you're getting it out me. 1005 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate that all. 1006 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Broy just it don't even feel 1007 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: like what you're having to come. 1008 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: Over and that's what it's supposed to be. 1009 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: Like I'm so much like us, like I represent us, 1010 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: and media is so disconnected because it's important understand something 1011 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: about me and they don't like me because I come 1012 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: in the game with. 1013 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: My own money. And the information. 1014 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 2: Had I just had money, that wasn't enough, they'd have 1015 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: laughed at me. Had us showed up just with money, 1016 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 2: they take advantage of us when we show up just 1017 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: with money. 1018 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: I had to show up with information. 1019 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: So I'm in the game and they put me in 1020 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: a situation to notice they just was the first. 1021 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: People doing this. 1022 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: They didn't they they ain't the people that rich Homie 1023 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: really want to go sit with. They just got the 1024 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: platform and I know, access to the people fucked this train, 1025 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: all right. So with technology, right it is they talk 1026 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 2: like me, like you. It's like baby pe thug Luchi whoever, 1027 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: we didn't have no mother for YouTube accounting two thousand 1028 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 2: and seven. So these guys were first to do this thing, right, 1029 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: And by the time we catch up with them, we 1030 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 2: don't respect they perspective. We respect they position. This is 1031 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 2: the difference with me. It's a perspective thing, right. And 1032 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: so people that come from what we come from and 1033 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 2: got to deal with this level of attention, this level 1034 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: of money, fame business. We try to sit down and 1035 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: come up with the details of the specifics, you know, 1036 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,959 Speaker 2: because without that we're gonna keep going down the same road. 1037 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying now with media, I know 1038 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: you said they asked you the same questions, who would 1039 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 2: you say. 1040 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: Was your favorite spot that you went to prior to Like. 1041 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, man, and uh, he got a 1042 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 2: lot of flat man like lad Man, like how you 1043 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 2: do it? Oh man, Man, I'm big on just man 1044 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 2: like they say, vlad you know they put it blueprint. 1045 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 2: Now he don't know, And I say what I want 1046 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: to say because I come in the game, sir, but 1047 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: they they kind of done put out what he do. 1048 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: And it's interesting when you hear some of his tactics 1049 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: are how he interviews and you said he was one 1050 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: of the best places for you, Like I'm saying this 1051 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 2: from like my experience, So that's what I'm saying. Yeah, 1052 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 2: I'm saying this from my experience, man, like from you 1053 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying what I've been through, like for 1054 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: to be in a star interview, come get me bro 1055 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: from the first time, man, before I move at my 1056 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 2: mama house, it's before some type of way like no 1057 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: matter where I'm at, donna want to interview me. And 1058 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: it's his tactics be different too, So like for you 1059 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: gotta just think for get on this telling himself. 1060 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: But he had to get you real comfortable or he 1061 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: just got nuts now slick on the way he asked 1062 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: his questions. 1063 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: But he ain't slick, He ain't, but like he really 1064 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: super direct the way it seemed like it's just normal. 1065 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. 1066 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, you got into a ah says here a 1067 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: robbery and shooting the night of November sixteenth. 1068 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: What happened that night? And it's like he asking you. 1069 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,959 Speaker 2: He ain't saying nothing wrong, but he asking you about 1070 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 2: the night you was shot on camera? 1071 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: On camera? 1072 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: Now, what can I say about that? That they ain't 1073 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 2: putting somebody in a situation? Yeah, you see what I'm saying, 1074 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 2: and that's what they're saying. But now you asked you answered, 1075 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 2: But because he asked me questions like that. But I 1076 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 2: just know how to shoot him down right, like my interview? 1077 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 2: What made it comfortable though? 1078 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: What made it? What made that one of the. 1079 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 2: Best spots outside of him, outside of you probably being paid, uh, 1080 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: just him getting just him getting me asking me different 1081 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: questions like not making it feel like an interview right now? 1082 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 1: He good though, now you know with all a slack 1083 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: he get. 1084 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: He he good at he keep good at interviewing, Like 1085 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: I can't take that from him and the nigga sit 1086 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 2: down there for over forty five minutes. 1087 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you gotta look like damn, I really said 1088 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: that with that dude. 1089 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 2: So you got to look at him like from all 1090 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 2: the people he's had, like I fuck with playing man 1091 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: and it's like probably one of my one of my 1092 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 2: biggest faces before I just got before who I am? 1093 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: Who else? Do I like? Man, I like to but 1094 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: be high, be high? 1095 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: Be how cool? Shout out bere be hoigh like different natural. 1096 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah he got the voice too. He going strong with it, 1097 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 2: Like I feel like be I should get a whole 1098 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: lot more praise than he gets. Yeah, you know what 1099 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like that's the one I've done, like radio 1100 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: shout yeahhole I know about in this game man, whoever, 1101 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 2: I say, it's nothing on there a couple of them. 1102 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: Academics was only cool because I think I anticipated it 1103 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: and I knew, like I knew the platform he had, 1104 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 2: So it's almost kind of like I went there wanting 1105 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 2: to get spicy. 1106 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: I can't respect academics. 1107 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say you wouldn't academics do y'all know Academics 1108 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 2: is take. 1109 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah online, I can't. How can I? 1110 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: I can't either, But like, like I just told you, so, 1111 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 2: it's different when like I never said, like as a person, 1112 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 2: that's my buddy, right, you got this one of the 1113 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: biggest platforms in hip hop. 1114 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 1: So I can't go here and not just that's facts. 1115 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: You got to give it. 1116 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, saying but that's because y'all don't got a choice, 1117 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: and now we're given the real ones a choice exactly so, 1118 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 2: and it ain't no disrespect, but it's like, no, it 1119 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 2: ain't no respect for you tagging the d A. 1120 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: I can't respect. I can't. I can't, I can't. 1121 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 2: Anybody else in the world can respect that loan can't 1122 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 2: respect when it came under see you, like I'm telling 1123 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: I go in according this don't got nothing to. 1124 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: Do with that, bro. 1125 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 2: People don't know DJ academics being imported into the country. 1126 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: He not, he not. 1127 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 2: He didn't come up playing kickball, grill lous eating grilled cheese, 1128 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: you know. 1129 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: But that's what I can tell you. 1130 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 2: Most of the people who do these podcasts, you probably 1131 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 2: we just feel like, who's a nigga? 1132 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: Nigga? Right? 1133 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 2: Like I ain't calling him like I don't want to 1134 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 2: say the word or like, but you just can tell 1135 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 2: they're not what we're from, right, well struggled the way 1136 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: we struggled. 1137 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't want to call 1138 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: it like I can tell when a nigga a nigga, 1139 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: and that's n I g g A right right. 1140 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: And and them guys, is they visitors and academics, especially 1141 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: for me, Bro's is in my opinion, very disrespectful to. 1142 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: Go police on it. Who ain't done nothing to you? 1143 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm stand So I'm doing spring cleaning in 1144 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 2: this game, real real nigga somewhere to go, somewhere they 1145 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 2: can talk, somewhere to get their voice out. 1146 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 1: It's over with all that. 1147 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: I ain't coming to no podcast trying to get indicted. 1148 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm coming here, Like you gotta think. I look at podcasts, Bro, 1149 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 2: that's damn their way of therapy exactly, you know what 1150 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's all like I'm telling my therapy 1151 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 2: some ship and I got indicted for keeping. 1152 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: It real in my therapy between me and you. That's deep, 1153 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 1154 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: So it's like it's gotta know, like I come in 1155 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: this motherfucker my head on track. Not gonna say nothing 1156 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 2: that's gonna put me in a bad situation. But I'm 1157 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 2: also coming to release and I'm not. It's no telling 1158 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: how you're gonna, you know, take the things that I say. 1159 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm not. 1160 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm coming here to be real, to release. Man, something 1161 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 2: this is something only escape, right, you know what I'm saying. 1162 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: They take advantage of that and they use you for 1163 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 2: clicks and get you in there. 1164 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: They really don't know nothing though. Yeah, they don't know nothing, so. 1165 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 2: They got to do a little bullsh like that. That's 1166 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: all they got. Yeah, more people watching them don't know. 1167 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,479 Speaker 1: I just pulled my heart out and I was, yeah, man, 1168 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: that's that's bad. Man. 1169 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: Like, So that's do you did? The women treat you 1170 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 2: different when when you so called fell off? I got 1171 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: to keep it real, like, girls ain't never treated me 1172 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 2: no different, you know what I'm saying. Cause they know 1173 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 2: you're rich for sure, that for sure for sure. But 1174 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna just say like when I when I did, 1175 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: like I don't want to say fell out when I 1176 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: had to over my head, you know what I'm saying. Sure, 1177 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: I can't tell if I sure sure, shroud over my head, like, 1178 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: no man, I've always been ladies man. So it's like 1179 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 2: I ain't never paid my way nowhere. You ain't never 1180 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 2: paid for no puss. 1181 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 1: Not indirectly. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I pay 1182 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: for gas. 1183 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 2: Get it be kind of disrespectful how they come when 1184 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 2: they were sometimes they done got pimpished. Listen, but like 1185 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 2: I've never like directly just I want to pay the fuck. 1186 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: I put some gas in the car, take you out 1187 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: of eat, but nah, like leaving some money on the dresser. 1188 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: That just ain't they done got a little pimpish man, 1189 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 2: Like you know they're really hit you. Yeah, they're really 1190 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 2: hit you, Like, hey, you know it's twenty five hundred 1191 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 2: bout that though you'd be like, damn they come, Like 1192 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 2: even if I'm riching them off, you can't just fade 1193 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 2: me like that. 1194 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: Though. You can't just fade me. 1195 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: With the five thousand dollars I'm showing up, Like I 1196 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 2: just feel funny paying for that when I got so 1197 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: much game. Listen, and like if you scream out the 1198 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 2: number for before we even you know what I'm saying, 1199 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: get your pains. 1200 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: It's over. You know what I'm saying, I ain't feeling 1201 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: you vibe. 1202 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: I've been to a player like, yeah, the way I 1203 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 2: was raised like I was raised broke and probably I 1204 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 2: had so many girl when I was broke. 1205 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: So I know with me having the money, it's added 1206 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: to it, but add to my charisma, you know what 1207 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1208 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 2: It's more like I'm old player and I can really 1209 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: be I can really be playing like this hot the 1210 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 2: ship I used to pop. I really can be the 1211 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: player and this show like I'm really him. So isn't 1212 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 2: I just added to the monster the wall before the man? 1213 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 2: Now the women ain't never like just slow down with me? 1214 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 2: Like I always had a check what I feel like 1215 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: before the check. I've always had charism exactly able to bringe. 1216 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 2: Just you know that that nick about whatever type of 1217 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 2: situation with a woman, right and one of my buddies 1218 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 2: can attest for this man right right right, And you 1219 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 2: know I say man with the women it's it's like 1220 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: and it ain't even that you asked for me. I've 1221 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,439 Speaker 2: experienced this like people are come to you and then 1222 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 2: say something about some money. For sure, I'm like, yo, 1223 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 2: what do you get? What is comed front? Like I 1224 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: ain't even I'm hustling. I ain't even known nothing right now, bro, 1225 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 2: I mean, bro, I got I'm turning that ship down. 1226 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm bringing podcast group is in. 1227 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: In the mind when you start getting the money, you 1228 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 2: started putting your brain like shit, I'm the catch. 1229 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: What's gonna be different for me to like? Shit? I was? 1230 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 2: I was probably more on. I was more easy when 1231 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 2: I was broke, right, But now, like I know, I'm 1232 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: the catch. Am mindful of, like what you got going on? 1233 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: What am I getting myself in? 1234 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: Two? 1235 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 2: Because I know what I come with. You know what 1236 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that's just one of them situations. Go 1237 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 2: to the strip club, still funk with that for sure, 1238 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 2: but it's more of a like I might just go 1239 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 2: in the scrip club. You know, I'm from Atlanta, so 1240 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: I might just go in there to get something to eat. 1241 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: May not throw any money, but don'na flirt my ass off, right, 1242 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 2: It's just me like, I'm not going to the strip 1243 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 2: club every time. You know, you know what I'm saying, 1244 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 2: throw no money. I mean, one of my biggest pet 1245 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: peeves thatt me on my shoulder. I know what environment 1246 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: I came in. Yeah, you feel me like, yeah, this 1247 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 2: ain't that. 1248 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they trying to work. 1249 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 2: They be respected, but like, yeah, what even in them situations, man, 1250 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: like with me being who I am, I don't even 1251 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 2: want to talk and I call with a bit when 1252 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm not right there right, so I may just put 1253 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: it on the table to leave me alone, please, I 1254 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: just came to get something. 1255 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1256 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,479 Speaker 2: So just want of them, Like what's your best performing song, 1257 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 2: like far as money wise, when you look at your chick, 1258 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 2: it just bring in the most. 1259 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: I got to say, Uh, some type of way in flicks, 1260 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: some type of way go crazy, flecks go cray, Yeah, 1261 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: flicks go crazy. 1262 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 2: But like all I'm from walkthrough, I just know what 1263 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: I see the most. That's some type of way be 1264 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: at the talk but blah blah blah been up there 1265 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: lately though. 1266 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: That's a bad motherfucker on TikTok blah blah blah and crazy. 1267 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah with I know you spoke about you was in 1268 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 2: and had a dog cloud over your head and you 1269 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 2: were arrogant for a second. I remember a point of 1270 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,959 Speaker 2: time where you were on stage. Somebody grabbed you. You said, 1271 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 2: with their young thugs, Yeah, what what was that about? 1272 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 2: What they come from, Oh man, what was that? 1273 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 1274 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: Drunk and it's like at uh end of my relationship, 1275 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like not looking for a moment. 1276 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: Were you bigger than. 1277 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: Thrug at the time when y'all were the same statue. 1278 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 2: I never even tried to compare me in bro, but 1279 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: technically Bro probably at that time, Like yeah, I probably 1280 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: bigger him at the time. And you don't think they 1281 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: played into nothing. 1282 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:37,479 Speaker 1: I can't. 1283 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 2: I can't tell the way he took it in his 1284 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: mind because me, as an artist, I probably would have 1285 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 2: took it to some type of some type of way 1286 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 2: as an artist like oh, it's up. 1287 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's up? Yeah? 1288 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 2: Like me, man, I was drunk. I just said, because 1289 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 2: it did look like it was in the crowd, this 1290 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 2: ain't no bullshit like he would have did look like 1291 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 2: it and in me drunk just saying it. But me 1292 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 2: now as I look bit like I would have felt 1293 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 2: some type of it would have been a up. And 1294 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 2: that was my guy. 1295 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: That was my guy. We just did some songs. I'm talking. 1296 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: But that's how you knew. 1297 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 2: This is how you had to know it, Like it 1298 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 2: was some type of static and I feel some type 1299 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 2: of way for me to say that, like a drunken 1300 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 2: mind is gonna speak the truth. 1301 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: That's why that's why people start to say, oh some 1302 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: must that that's that's uh troubling paradigm. Right, something's happening. Yeah, yeah, man, 1303 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: who you looking forward to working with? Now? Ain't nobody 1304 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: out there you want to work with? 1305 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Uh see, I gotta I want to work with a 1306 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: lot of these new dudes. 1307 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Man. You know what I'm saying. 1308 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 2: From a little baby to dirt, from dirt to young boy, 1309 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 2: from young boy to Paulo g I don't got no no, 1310 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 2: I ain't getting into nobody be I'm a fan of 1311 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 2: good music. 1312 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Man. 1313 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 2: These a niggas who screaming, I love them. I hope 1314 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 2: uh I pray that my music has influenced them in 1315 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: some type of way or motivated you or even you 1316 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 2: just gave corner Listen man, what I would lord to 1317 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 2: work with? 1318 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: The dudes? 1319 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: I said, uh in the list goes on like it 1320 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 2: ain't just that h ship, anybody got some motion and 1321 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 2: I I ain't looking to grab your emotion or you 1322 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: know it ain't that I'm a fan of good music, man. 1323 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I want to get a fans the names I keep 1324 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: seeing in my fucking right right. You know what I'm saying. 1325 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the people what they want right 1326 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: right right? Do you tap in with the fans? How 1327 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: do you tap in with the fans through comments? 1328 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Through live? I may get on live here or out, 1329 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: but I don't do comments. So I'm big. 1330 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 2: I hear somebody back in the DM like I'm probably 1331 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 2: one every seven, I may right back one every seven. 1332 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm live with it right back, and some of them 1333 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: stories be touching me. Man. 1334 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 2: I got a heart, I got kids, and uh, I 1335 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 2: just know what what that would have did to my 1336 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 2: morale or my spirit of one of my big exctis 1337 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 2: would have wrote me back if we had a platform 1338 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 2: where I could reach out at the time when I. 1339 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Was growing up. 1340 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 2: When do you quit rap? Probably when I'm like forty two, 1341 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 2: forty three? Yeah, no, No more than forty five, man, 1342 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 2: no more than forty five. 1343 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: But I can't say, Man, you got. 1344 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Jay Z, jay Z Jase fifty hip hop growing Man, 1345 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: you can you gonna be still be to do it? 1346 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: I just fact not to cut you out. 1347 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Man, I ain't gonna start doing these shows, and I 1348 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: can't walk no more. 1349 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna start doing these. I can't walk no more. Man. Yeah, 1350 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I love the fans. It's somebody being on this stage. 1351 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: It's somebody touching the people, even on days when I 1352 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: don't want to do it. It's gonna be a coming. 1353 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 2: I read it's gonna be something I see scrolling on 1354 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: the ground that reminds me why of who I am 1355 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: and why why am this person? And why I gotta 1356 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 2: continue to do what I'm doing. Man, you know what, Man, 1357 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 2: anything else you want to say, Man, we're gonna get 1358 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 2: out of here. 1359 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by. You know. It's the biggest 1360 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: podcast in the world, you know, and you like you 1361 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: got something different with this. Man. I won't say. 1362 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: Man, I've done a million podcasts, never had one like 1363 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 2: this this row. 1364 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: I swear I appreciate one man, one band like that. Yeah. 1365 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I love your outlook, Lord. 1366 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Of Rotch, you going appreciate it. I love the way 1367 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 2: you get the truth out of niggas. Man, keep doing 1368 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 2: what you're doing on start And if it was anything 1369 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 2: I want to say, I just want to say, family, 1370 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 2: Moula out now. Stay tuned. We're coming back December, coming 1371 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 2: back strong. No more of your niggas, asks man. 1372 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: For sure, Wait, let me say this because Red calm man, 1373 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: He said, Man, when you talked to Rich Hopeing. 1374 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Man, please talk to him about Venice and our partner ship. 1375 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, talk to me a little bit 1376 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: about Venice and what you got going on. 1377 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 2: So I got to give a big shout out to 1378 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 2: Venice Man, big shout out to Detroit Carter Man, big 1379 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 2: shot out to Red too, manf for sure, Red, Like 1380 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,919 Speaker 2: even before we did the odd distribution there, Red had 1381 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 2: been like, ain'tal about it, Like he wouldn't let up. 1382 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 2: You know what he's doing though, Yeah, he's good at 1383 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 2: what he do, man, Like he wouldn't let up. But 1384 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 2: it was just one situation, you know, Like I mean 1385 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 2: like my first time being all the way indy, but 1386 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 2: I knew, like from the song I dropped before we 1387 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 2: got in a situation with that being to be worried 1388 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 2: like the traction we're seeing on it, like the we 1389 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: ain't do nothing to the song, My damn, I can 1390 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 2: see it moving. But if I do this again, man, 1391 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 2: I want I really want my you know what I'm saying. 1392 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 2: I want my music to be able to touch everybody. 1393 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm still having all my ownership, So you know what 1394 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying, we are process of elimination. Venice was one 1395 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 2: of the last two. And when I talked to them, 1396 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 2: it felt like the right thing, not just for me 1397 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 2: to do, but for the team to do. You know 1398 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was the right things for the 1399 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 2: masters to do, the right thing for the whole organization business. Yeah, 1400 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 2: for sure. And like they were patient with me. I 1401 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: might have started a month for six months. That's deep 1402 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 2: because you still gotta make sense, man, you got you. 1403 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, that But and 1404 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: they building a mean little rosto. 1405 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 2: That too. And but like I said, I want to 1406 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: come in and feel like a new artist. I don't 1407 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 2: want to come in being arrogant. I didn't want to 1408 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: come in with that cloud over me. So I want 1409 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 2: to make sure I was one hundred and ten percent 1410 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 2: committed and I was gonna do shit different, bro. I 1411 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 2: was gonna show them I was committed man, and to 1412 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 2: being you know, an artist and changing my narrative around me. 1413 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm I'm work, I'm work 1414 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: withoutable right, and shit, I want to win, right. 1415 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 2: It's love Man, I appreciate you for stopping bad Man 1416 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Rich Holman. 1417 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: That's her biggest