WEBVTT - Ashlee Simpson Ross Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>We used to get this free Pinkberry from this guy

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and Danielle and I were like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he's gonna get fired. And when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>he would give us free pingberry every single time, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to pink You're the part you're skipping that's important

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<v Speaker 2>is we went to Pinkberry seven days a week, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, every single day, which was at some point

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<v Speaker 2>the one on Sunset when we used to live in

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<v Speaker 2>West Hollywood, Okay, And every single day we would go

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<v Speaker 2>in there at some point and get Pinkberry, and if

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<v Speaker 2>he was there, he would just give it to us

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<v Speaker 2>for free every single time everything. And I, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't love free stuff because I feel obligated. And a

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<v Speaker 2>half the time I would only have twenties and I

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<v Speaker 2>would want and so then I would end up paying

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<v Speaker 2>twenty dollars in.

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<v Speaker 3>The tip jar for the poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Would I'd be like, could you please just charge me

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<v Speaker 2>for the pinkberry because I'm losing money on the tip

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<v Speaker 2>in the tip jar.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and we'd say he's gonna get fired, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd say he's probably just a huge boy meets world,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so weird. Because he never said anything, never said

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<v Speaker 3>like I loved you on Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then after about six months of going.

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<v Speaker 1>There, I mean hundreds of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>We get pinkberry and another person serves it to us

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<v Speaker 2>and says, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Allowed to charge you.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh would be mad if I charged you, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh my god. Now he's involving other

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<v Speaker 1>people in his scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the next time we go, Josh is there and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, oh, I heard you met my my coworker

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<v Speaker 2>last time, and I'm glad he didn't charge you.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have been in trouble. And we were like,

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<v Speaker 3>huh yeah, and he goes, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is embarrassing. But I have to ask, and I

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<v Speaker 2>go what. He goes, were you on a TV show?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said yeah, I was on Boy Me's World.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, that's so funny. I I've never seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>but my coworker told me that that you were, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I'm so sorry I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, that's cool, that's that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to have a good day.

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<v Speaker 4>So why is he giving you free do you still

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<v Speaker 4>not know?

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<v Speaker 5>Is there no end to this story. I thought, O,

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<v Speaker 5>d oh, you're killing me. So you still don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>no idea. Hundreds of dollars, hundreds of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>There and we don't get it. And I also got

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Crunch on it all the time, totally chewed up

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<v Speaker 2>the roof of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 6>Captain Crunch is amazing and the only reason I'm upset

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<v Speaker 6>with having left social media is one of my first

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<v Speaker 6>tweets was how has Captain Crunch never been promoted?

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<v Speaker 4>Because come on, these.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys been a she's obviously doing something wrong. And Captain

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<v Speaker 6>Crunch himself from his verified account, I mean tweeted back

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<v Speaker 6>and said it because Admiral Crunch makes no sense. Oh so

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, okay, this is why people do social

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<v Speaker 6>media because Captain Crunch.

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<v Speaker 5>Himself absolutely the real Captain Crunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the real I'm sorry, it's captain well it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's he's a captain.

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<v Speaker 6>But still he's I want to know what's going you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's got to have some some serious problems to not

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<v Speaker 6>be promoted, to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, No, you're right, that's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's been.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting away free pink Bury to customer.

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<v Speaker 4>That could be it. It could be he could be

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<v Speaker 4>Josh's uncle.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm dying to know what Josh is thinking as he's

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<v Speaker 6>just giving away. And and because it's the it would

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<v Speaker 6>be one thing if it was like, okay, you know

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<v Speaker 6>I always get but to then bring in his coworker

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<v Speaker 6>to say, I'll be pissed if you charge these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Also, the coworker definitely knew who she was, So

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<v Speaker 1>how did you even not have that conversation with the coworker.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 5>With it.

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<v Speaker 7>You.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's not that he had a crush on you.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it is, but Jensen's there, so it's not

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<v Speaker 6>like she's a pretty girl.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, I don't know. It's a very it's

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<v Speaker 3>a mystery niversity genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>When he told us, it looked so real.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, the history of the universe. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to say about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Amelia Earhart, Sean Benay, Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>Berry, Joshah, Pinkberry. Yeah, those are the things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, is Pinkberry still a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's one in North rich Okay, never had.

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<v Speaker 4>It in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>We took Adler to Pinkberry for his first ever frozen

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<v Speaker 2>yogurt and I'll never forget it because Adler had never

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<v Speaker 2>had it before. And so he takes a bite of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like a little hesitant at first, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh yeah, this is pretty good, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he takes another bite, and he takes another bite and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, Jensen goes what's happening? And

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<v Speaker 2>I just look at Adler and Addler's like this.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes are just bulging out. There's like his mouth

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<v Speaker 1>is shivering.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, and I go, oh god, oh wait, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a brain.

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<v Speaker 5>Freezing brain freeze, first ever brain freeze, first ever brain freeze.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just fully saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, and then when it stopped, he looked

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<v Speaker 1>at us like I was gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Die so much better it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 6>The first time I ever learned that. The way my

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<v Speaker 6>brother and sister in law raised my nephews far different

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<v Speaker 6>than I was raised is we were in Amsterdam and

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<v Speaker 6>they were little, little kids, and we found one ice

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<v Speaker 6>cream shop all the way across the city still open,

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<v Speaker 6>and the adults wanted to go out do something. So

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<v Speaker 6>I said, you know what, I'll take the boys and

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<v Speaker 6>we'll go and we'll find ice cream, and we walked

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<v Speaker 6>through the streets of Amsterdam for like an hour to

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<v Speaker 6>get to this place. And we finally get there and

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<v Speaker 6>my nephew is probably seven at this time, and he

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<v Speaker 6>looks up and says, my brother and I will split

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<v Speaker 6>a small fat free chocolate. And I was like, who

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<v Speaker 6>the hell are these children and how do I get them.

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<v Speaker 4>Away from my brothers?

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<v Speaker 6>Immediately I'm like, we walked an hour for the two

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<v Speaker 6>of you to split a small fat free chocolate?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 6>I was so upset, couldn't go too little.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, your uncle's here, what do you want this?

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<v Speaker 4>You don't even have to finish it. They split a

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<v Speaker 4>small cup, nothing on top, nothing of fat free frozen yogurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Rill needed to spend more time with those children.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, just try walking the streets of Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 6>by the way with two little kids, like, no, don't

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<v Speaker 6>look over there, don't look over there, don't look over there.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that smell? Nothing? Nothing, don't look over there. Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>It was amazing because you'll walk by like a coca

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<v Speaker 6>cola add it'll just be a naked woman like by coke,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like, wait a minute, Okay, this is what

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<v Speaker 6>whoa whoa Yeah it's uh but yeah fat free yogurt split.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so Depresedub'll share one.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, who are what did

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<v Speaker 3>you get?

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<v Speaker 6>The double triple Sunday fudge? Whatever the hell it was

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<v Speaker 6>where it was like, I'm eating this and winning a shirt.

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<v Speaker 6>So sit there and watch me.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Pod Meets World.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm Rider Strong and I'm wilfred Ell.

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<v Speaker 4>Both I'm both today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Rider Strong is not with us because he has

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<v Speaker 2>finicky internet.

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<v Speaker 4>No internet today, no internet.

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<v Speaker 3>He tried, he was on for a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Things were looking good, and then he disappeared and he

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<v Speaker 2>was the first froze.

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<v Speaker 6>The freeze was great because we were like, it was

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<v Speaker 6>right when he's going to say Rider Strong, and he froze,

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<v Speaker 6>and we were like, is he.

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<v Speaker 4>Contemplating his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he thinks he's forgotten? Yeah? That is what it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Las Vegas Week continues, and today we have a

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<v Speaker 2>banger as we prep for season seven. It marks Boy

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<v Speaker 2>Meets World's entry into the year two thousand and As

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<v Speaker 2>pre we figured, it gets no more y two K

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<v Speaker 2>than a two thousand and two to two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>three season of Say What Karaoke filmed at the MTV

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<v Speaker 2>Summerhouse in the Hamptons, hosted by Danielle Fischer and a

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<v Speaker 2>guy named Stephen from the Real World, and judged by

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<v Speaker 2>this week's very special guest. It was when I first

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<v Speaker 2>got to know her, spending one of the best summers

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<v Speaker 2>of my life with an effortlessly cool pop star, driving around,

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<v Speaker 2>sharing secrets and laughing NonStop, all with the backdrop of

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<v Speaker 2>a pre paparazzi trl society.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>The good old day, good old times.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just about to release Autobiography, her debut album

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<v Speaker 2>that would hit number one and go on to sell

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<v Speaker 2>five million copies worldwide. And yet there she was, down

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<v Speaker 2>to earth, funny, beautiful, and for some reason posing for

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<v Speaker 2>pictures pretending she had.

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<v Speaker 3>Pickles for eyebrows. I have that photo. What I have

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<v Speaker 3>A great picture with her holding two pickles.

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<v Speaker 2>Above her eyebrows, right, cute. Listen, we had fun. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>ask what we did.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Her and her sister Jessica dominated pop culture at an

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<v Speaker 2>almost once in a generation level. It's experiencing the highs

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<v Speaker 2>and lows that came with celebrity at the time. Something

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<v Speaker 2>I think should be examined then condemned in modern day

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<v Speaker 2>criticism with words like misogyny and bullying. You see, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousands got very weird, especially for famous women.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking to her just weeks before I Am

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<v Speaker 2>Me a group of seven shows in Las Vegas at

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<v Speaker 2>the Venetians Voltaire Theater. It's a return to music for

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<v Speaker 2>the dedicated mom of three, a celebration for her fans,

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<v Speaker 2>those of us who consider songs like Pieces of Me,

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<v Speaker 2>La La Boyfriend and the entire Bittersweet World album to

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<v Speaker 2>be wildly underappreciated jams. Oh don't believe me. Ask Rolling

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<v Speaker 2>Stone in the New York Times, both outlets who've recently admitted.

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<v Speaker 3>That we fumbled what we had with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Young Alanis lyrics at first, then later throwback synthpop, all

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<v Speaker 2>born too early for its proper credit. But today we

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<v Speaker 2>will give credit where credit is due. Please welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>pod meets World. The loveliest spirit and a true survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Ashley Simpson Ross.

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<v Speaker 7>Hash I doing this right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not your fault. We were running like two minutes. Wait, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's me.

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<v Speaker 7>Also with technology, I'm so bad at it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this is too terrible.

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<v Speaker 7>It's nice having like a sixteen year old son because

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, he's not here right now, He's in Japan.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 3>What is Bronx doing in Japan?

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<v Speaker 7>He's out there with his dad right now, like just Pat,

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<v Speaker 7>he's been out there for just living life. Summer trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's awesome, beautiful face too. I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I need him right now. I'm doing technology.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, hello, FaceTime him? I need you. What time

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<v Speaker 3>is it in Japan?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my, I'm like, am I doing this Instagram right?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, She's going to need his help to FaceTime him. Though,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the problem I know exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, but like that's the nice thing about

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<v Speaker 7>having a team. Now, Like we just saw you at

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<v Speaker 7>the mall. I had the shirt on I'm we wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally planning when we started our interview to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how lovely it is to see you for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time. And then we ran into each other

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<v Speaker 2>at the Topanga mall.

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<v Speaker 3>Mall my mall too, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Are we neighbors? Are we all neighbors? That's a.

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<v Speaker 7>Flying place for the hoo. And you know what is

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<v Speaker 7>so funny here's about like how funny life is with Jagger.

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<v Speaker 7>Didn't realize who you were. And then I told her

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<v Speaker 7>after and she was like, oh my god, Mom, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, girl meets world. Of course that's like in her

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<v Speaker 3>in her ballpark.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god. I was dying. She was like, oh

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<v Speaker 7>my god, can we like go back and color like Jagger?

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<v Speaker 7>You can see if any time, we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Do lots of get togethers, we'll do lots of hay we're.

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<v Speaker 7>At that to pay them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Do your kids like the mall the same way we

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<v Speaker 2>all liked the mall when we were teens.

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<v Speaker 7>It's so funny because I feel like even with my husband,

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<v Speaker 7>he's like, I've never known somebody who likes the mall,

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<v Speaker 7>Like why do you like to go to the mall?

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<v Speaker 7>Like thank you, Hey, you're going to the mall? Like

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<v Speaker 7>that's where you're taking the kids to the mall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what we grew up doing, the mall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so do mine.

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<v Speaker 2>So my son started his first day of first grade yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the little form thing you fill out, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what his name is, what school he goes to,

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<v Speaker 2>what his what are some things he loves? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you love and he said, my mom, my, dad,

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<v Speaker 2>the mall, and everyone in my family.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, there's so many opportunities. Go to movies, you

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<v Speaker 7>can go to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Arcade, some food. If you're not really that hungry, you

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<v Speaker 3>can stop the food, get a snack.

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<v Speaker 4>That the mall was higher on the list than his brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, brother fell into everyone in my family. Yeah he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get.

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<v Speaker 7>I like him all.

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<v Speaker 2>My happy place mine too, absolutely, and Ashley, I have

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<v Speaker 2>been so excited to get you on the podcast, not

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<v Speaker 2>just so we could catch up, but because you are

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<v Speaker 2>essentially doing the music equivalent.

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<v Speaker 3>Of our podcast in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at the Venetian revisiting your music career, but instead

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<v Speaker 2>of a podcast, you're doing it with a whole string

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<v Speaker 2>of shows, and we are talking to you just a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks before your first show.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you feeling about it all.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm feeling so good. I'm really excited about the show.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, honestly, just being in that room. And I

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<v Speaker 7>have so many like female players now too, which is

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<v Speaker 7>so hot, and new players revisit that music and for

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<v Speaker 7>me to revisit and revisit the things like I wrote

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<v Speaker 7>when I was eighteen, revisiting that has been so much

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<v Speaker 7>fun for me and just like bringing it to twenty

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<v Speaker 7>five right now, I'm so excited, honest. And another thing

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<v Speaker 7>like that really like drove me to it was my daughter,

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<v Speaker 7>like all of a sudden, like her and her friends

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<v Speaker 7>were like hello, Hello, like v and like I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>how is this like happening? I'm like Pat Benatar to you?

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I mean, Like there was like a

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<v Speaker 8>letter for me and all that, and then there was

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<v Speaker 8>like Pat and like yeah, yes, I love what I understand.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I'm like the older tear.

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<v Speaker 2>How did it come together? Who approached you? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be convinced? Was it your brainchild? How did

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<v Speaker 2>it come about?

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<v Speaker 7>My husband and I were like, oh God, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I've been wanting to play again and I've been wanting

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<v Speaker 7>to music out. And I did a twenty year anniversary

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<v Speaker 7>of my first album last year and I did like

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<v Speaker 7>I just played three songs, and when the three songs

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<v Speaker 7>were over, I was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Got that too, It's not enough.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to keep going. So this just felt like

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<v Speaker 7>organic and fun. Vegas is like so sexy and close

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<v Speaker 7>and it just like gives you that vibe where you

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<v Speaker 7>can be nostalgic. I've seen his mother, Diana Ross play there.

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<v Speaker 7>She's amazing, and like, it's just a place where I

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<v Speaker 7>think Vegas is like open to so many fun things.

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<v Speaker 7>So for me, it was just like the right opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>And for me, I'm like a person who like waits

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<v Speaker 7>for that door. I'm like, Okay, here's an open door,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is the moment I'm going to see what

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<v Speaker 7>this brings.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's interesting because when we started this podcast we

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know what was going to happen either. There's just

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<v Speaker 6>kind of okay, we're going to talk about what it

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<v Speaker 6>was like we were a certain age and we've got

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<v Speaker 6>you know this, seven years of our life has been

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<v Speaker 6>captured and we can But then it brought up a

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<v Speaker 6>whole lot of stuff we didn't expect to be churned up.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're kind of reliving certain things, not all of

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<v Speaker 6>it great. Have you noticed that you're kind of going

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<v Speaker 6>through some of the same emotions as you're going back

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<v Speaker 6>through your catalog?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, Yeah, and every you I get to

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<v Speaker 7>relive everything. But yes, and and also like a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of like great Like actually I met Danielle we were

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<v Speaker 7>working what was it MTV in the Hampton's Springburger, Summer

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<v Speaker 7>Beach it was Summer Beach House.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when the year they brought back Say What Karaoke,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh My God, which I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think was like two thousand and two, two thousand.

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<v Speaker 7>And three, it was yeah, because I didn't come out

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<v Speaker 7>with my music. I was writing music, but I didn't. Ah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I was on seventh time in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it's one of my most favorite memories of my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life is the time Ashley and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>spend together that summer.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't anyone else seeing.

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<v Speaker 7>Me at them all the other day, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing this, but I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, we just there. We had such a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what anyone else was doing, but the

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<v Speaker 2>two of us, he really did. It was like every

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<v Speaker 2>It was like every vision you have of what two

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<v Speaker 2>teen girls released on their own in New York and

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<v Speaker 2>the Hampton's minus pillow fights.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't have any pillow fights.

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<v Speaker 2>But otherwise, you know, why didn't we Why didn't we

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<v Speaker 2>ruined the w in Times Square?

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<v Speaker 7>That was like the place they would put us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where they put us up.

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<v Speaker 7>Because even when like it was like seventh teven. I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like I was always at the w Were you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, No, we never got to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>I never said anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you immediately sold out all of your first dates

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<v Speaker 2>when they were announced, and so then they added more.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see that coming or was it a surprise

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<v Speaker 3>to you?

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<v Speaker 7>It was a surprise to me. I mean I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>really know what to expect for me. I was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>like in general, to get back to play those songs

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<v Speaker 7>and the twenty five version of it, which is like

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<v Speaker 7>what I've been being in the room enjoying is I'm like, oh, Ashley, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>because a lot of my lyrics, like I go through

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<v Speaker 7>and every day when I was younger, it was like therapy.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd go to the studio, Like my boyfriend broke up

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<v Speaker 7>with me, I'd go to the studio write about it.

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<v Speaker 7>And what people don't do in their music anymore are bridges.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's like yours. That's like your light, that's your

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<v Speaker 7>and so like every song like I have that, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, ah, you always found it even though you

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<v Speaker 7>were young and going through so much. You know, I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like I always was like finding that, And I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like as a four year old woman. I'm still

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<v Speaker 7>able to connect that and see so much of that

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, ooh yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, girl, yeah, proud of you.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, well, it's so hard because you don't pat yourself

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<v Speaker 7>on the back at that time. Yeah, it was like

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<v Speaker 7>at this age, now you can be like, oh that

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<v Speaker 7>was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it nice too to be able to look back

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<v Speaker 2>and give that younger version of you that you were

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<v Speaker 2>so hard on.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice hug, be like, I mean, do you do

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<v Speaker 3>the same? Absolutely? It's like, wow, you were you weren't

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<v Speaker 3>that awful? Why are you so? Why were you so

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<v Speaker 3>hard on yourself?

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<v Speaker 7>Danielle?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because like I was so hard on myself. And

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<v Speaker 3>look I look back now and I'm like, what you

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<v Speaker 3>were doing great? Look at you go, look at you.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's it's so nice to like, yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>feel a sense of pride.

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<v Speaker 7>Like a freeing moment, I think, and I can't wait

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<v Speaker 7>to be there and play the shows. And for me,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just been nice, like just the testament of like

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<v Speaker 7>my fans now you know, they're all adults, the kids

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<v Speaker 7>that were like nine and eleven that came to my

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<v Speaker 7>show back in the day, they're like grown Corona dimmy

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<v Speaker 7>Lovado and I mean even so that was another moment too,

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<v Speaker 7>because she used to cover my song La La on

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<v Speaker 7>her tour and I went and paid it with her.

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<v Speaker 7>He's like, God, that was so much fun, and like

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<v Speaker 7>how much I respect her as an artist and the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that she was playing that was so nice. That

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<v Speaker 7>is to me, those moments like led to this to

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<v Speaker 7>me to like be here now and I'm so excited. Also,

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<v Speaker 7>my daughter, she's like the ones, Like she came to

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<v Speaker 7>my rehearsals the other day She's like, Mom, you sound

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<v Speaker 7>so good. And I was like, because she didn't know

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<v Speaker 7>that side of me, just like, yeah, give me this.

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<v Speaker 4>Mom, Yeah, your mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have established that everyone is ready for Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>Simpson Ross in twenty twenty five. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about your past as well, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is a common trivia question. But I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows you weren't the youngest person ever admitted to

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<v Speaker 2>the School of American Ballet at age eleven? Wow ah,

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<v Speaker 2>how did that come about? Growing up in Texas? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you then find yourself in ballet?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, my mom like always my mom's like my

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<v Speaker 7>best friend still, you know my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>I know your mom, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 7>She always kind of supported our dreams. And Jessica and

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<v Speaker 7>I like grew up entertaining, which I'm sure you guys did. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>where you're at. And for me, ballet was just something

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<v Speaker 7>like I started at such a young age and I

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<v Speaker 7>took it so seriously. Like by the time I was

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<v Speaker 7>in third grade, I was on point. So I was

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<v Speaker 7>like dancing with seventeen year olds by the time I was,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, very young to Prince Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 7>Here. But you know, for me, I think that the

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<v Speaker 7>one great experience about that. So then I would go downtown.

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<v Speaker 7>I lived in Dallas, and I'd go downtown. I'd auditioned

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<v Speaker 7>for all the ballet schools, so like then I was

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<v Speaker 7>like accepted, you know, full scholarships. So like you're all

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<v Speaker 7>baby two U Sab you know those things. And then

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<v Speaker 7>I always loved Sab in New York City ballet, so

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<v Speaker 7>I went there. But yeah, I mean it's like one

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<v Speaker 7>of those things that's still like engraved in my body.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you mentioned your sister Jessica, who then became a

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<v Speaker 2>global pop star and a reality TV pop culture phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>How did the takeoff of her career start the trajectory

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<v Speaker 2>of your career. You started as a backup dancer for her, right, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so how did that start shaping your future? And when

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<v Speaker 2>did the record deal discussion start?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay? So I did as I would do this summer

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<v Speaker 7>as I was offered the year to go there, and

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<v Speaker 7>then my family, my sister got signed to Columbia that

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.959
<v Speaker 7>the second year I went to sav it was a

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 7>summer I went actually, and they were like, oh, you

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 7>can go a year and got signed in. My family

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 7>was like, we're going to move to LA and it

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 7>was actually funny enough, but that year I was like, oh,

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 7>you know, like I love ballet, but I'm not gonna

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:55.120
<v Speaker 7>be Avallerina, you know. So they were like, you could go,

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 7>you can stay, you can go to New York and

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 7>do school there at Julliard, go to or you can

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 7>come with us to LA. And I was like, oh,

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to go to LA. I'm going to go

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 7>to acting and I'm going to like you know, because

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 7>I also like dreamed of like theater and acting and

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 7>just like a different world of stage other than one thing.

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 7>So I went with my family, and they were like,

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 7>you can dance back up for your sister. And I

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 7>was her background dancer. Now, mind you, I'm not a

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 7>hip hop dancer. So I'm working with all these great

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 7>dancers like keep down, get low. It's like sometimes I'm

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.880
<v Speaker 7>a half beat behind, and I got it.

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't imagine. I can't imagine ballet translating super

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 2>easily to hip.

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm great with modern.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 6>Why is that one girl in the background on point?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 7>But it was just such a cool experience to have

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 7>that with my family, and you know, you guys know

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 7>that time. It was a time where like I felt

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 7>very like like I wanted to cover her and support

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 7>her as well. Like the world was just so different

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 7>with artists and everyone and judgment, Like oh, the magazines

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 7>and went the comments that people felt like they could

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 7>say about people. I was like, did you just say

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 7>that about my sister? You know, I felt very like protective.

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 7>But I feel like having that moment, it taught me

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 7>so much about myself as an artist. So my parents

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 7>let me have my friend come out on tour with

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 7>me and guitar tech for the guitar players, so I

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 7>could write my own songs. Oh, so I danced here

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 7>until at sixteen I left and went to Seventh Heaven

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 7>and started writing my first album. But having that time,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 7>I think really taught me what I wanted, what I needed,

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 7>as you know, like, oh, I will not let you

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 7>tell me what to do or this label tell me

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 7>what to do or who I'm supoub beat. I mean,

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 7>I was lucky to have a whole big sister that

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 7>I got to learn from.

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what an incredible education, you know, like a hands on,

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 2>right right up close, look at it, right. Was there

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 2>a culture shock for you coming from Texas moving to

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 2>La Like, was there did your family have a culture shock?

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.959
<v Speaker 7>Feeling well, where did we move to Hassin Heights? And

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 7>then yeah, I mean I think there was a little

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 7>bit of a shock. But then I think there was

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 7>like a group of like Texas people that friends with.

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 7>Some of them are like still my best friends to

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 7>this day. So I think there was a difference and

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 7>was it was different? But then we mostly traveled on

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 7>on tour, so that part was just like fun and

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 7>experiencing like the silliness of that with a bunch of

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 7>like girls on tour and what that is.

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, so was that with Kevin, your first

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>acting experience.

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.959
<v Speaker 7>No, what was it? I did like a funny like

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 7>one line and hot Ship or a few lives, hot shit,

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 7>okay and nice seven. Yeah.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm so curious.

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I'm just so curious because you have a

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 6>very unique insight in that very rarely do you meet

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 6>people that have been both in the music industry and

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 6>the acting industry, And so I'm curious how it's too

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 6>big a question to say how different are they? But

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 6>is there one side of the industry that is quote

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 6>unquote less toxic.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Than the other side.

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 6>We keep hearing like, because I only know the acting

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 6>side of the of the industry, and they're always like, okay,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 6>well you know, as young actors, it can be this

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 6>can be bad or that can be bad. And then

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 6>we hear people often saying, whoa man, you should see

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 6>what the music industry is like.

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 4>So I'm curious.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 6>Was it that big a difference being a young entertainer

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 6>in the music side of the industry as opposed to

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 6>the acting side of the industry.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean, there are different in different ways, but like

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 7>I said, like I feel like, yeah, I mean, the

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.239
<v Speaker 7>music industry at that time was definitely you know, I

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 7>had a lot of highs, had a lot of lows, right,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 7>And I think for me, I guess it was just

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 7>that moment of also and that's where I look back

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 7>and give myself a hug because I always stayed grounded.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 7>I was, like I am. I think being an actress

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 7>or a singer, actor or anything, it's not letting people

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 7>dictate what you are or any failure or this audition

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 7>or that or this you know, music or this performance

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 7>which I've had, but dictating who you are or your

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 7>self worth. And I think for me, like I don't

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 7>know what it was inside of me, but I would

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 7>dig to that and say I was there, I wrote this,

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 7>this is about me, this is my life, and you

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 7>know you would find that strength within yourself. And I mean,

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 7>I think they're both tough though, right, but Kevin Kevin

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 7>was so nice. I mean, that's like a great family.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 7>I had Beverly Mitchell, and I was there like writing

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 7>songs like Rachel Blanchard. She'd run my lines with me

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 7>every day and I was there writing songs and they

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 7>would come to my trailer and listen to like the

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 7>new song I wrote. And at the same time, I

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 7>was also filming my reality show, The Ashley Show, So

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 7>it was like a lot of war is going.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>On, so so many things to keep track of, which,

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>like you said, giving yourself a big hug for the

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 2>fact that you have always remained authentic for as long

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>as I've known you, no matter what's been going on,

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>You've always just seemed like Ashley, You've always just maintained

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>who you were at your core, even while writing the

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 2>waves of highs and lows that no matter what industry

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you're in, life just throws at you.

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 7>Right, And I mean I think like it's God hopefully

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 7>our most important lesson we can give to our children

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 7>because now it's like social media and everything expectations and like,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 7>definitely you know it's everywhere.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Now, Yes, absolutely.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 7>But what I was going to say though, the other

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 7>thing about acting was the day that I finished Seventh Heaven.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.479
<v Speaker 7>Because you have to have connnuity with your hair and whatnot,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 7>I went to CVS and I bought a hair dye

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 7>box with brown hair.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>And taking the Power Back, Taking the Power Back.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 7>My video for Pieces of Me, my single, and I

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 7>call everyone, I'm like, I just want you to know

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 7>I have brown hair and it's from a box at CBS.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Did you like the way it turned out? Did you

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>like the brown?

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 7>I mean I did, and then I kept going and

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 7>it was darn. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 7>it was all like doing life in those young ages

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 7>you're in. You're like almost at that time, like your

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 7>college years. So it's like, yeah, apartment, You're experimenting your

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 7>color and your hair, every color. You know, you're doing

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 7>everything and it's all everyone.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>So Autobiography, your debut album, came out in two thousand

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and four. As you mentioned, it turned twenty last year.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>It was five times platinum, hit number one on the

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Billboard Top two hundred, and it is filled with teen angst.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Now title in mind?

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Was the album a proper representation of who you were?

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 7>And it's so funny because I go hibiography. Well, now

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, you're like, oh, it was like autobiography now exactly,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 7>But it was at that time because for me writing,

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 7>it was like every day I'd go in with like

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 7>my fresh breakup, my fresh boyfriend, like this is me,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 7>love me for me, and you know, with all those

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, it was literally like the diary of my

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 7>life and having like Kara Diaguardian, John Shanks with me.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 7>It was like they were my therapist and we were

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 7>in this room of like this writing session every day,

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 7>which was yeah, yeah.

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Well you were and are very different than your sister Jessica.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I saw a recent interview you guys did and for

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>New York magazine, and she talked about how you are

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>the cool one, she was the rule follower and you

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>really forged your own path. What was it like for

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the two of you having each other by your side

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>through the wild ride that was the two thousands.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think it's like been the biggest blessing.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 7>And that interview was so much fun because I was

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 7>interviewing her, so I just like on her, I'm like okay,

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 7>like trying to study her new album, and I was

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 7>like I was like okay, man, And I felt so

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 7>like professional about it.

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>You're a serious journalist.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to interview you.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>So cute.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 7>But I think just having each other where it's this

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 7>unspoken sisterhood. You know, it's just us. We don't have

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 7>a brother or sisters, just us. And I think it's

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 7>this unspoken understanding of everything everywhere we've been and throughout life,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 7>you know. And I think just and we had My.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Mom was like our third yeah, the third sister.

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 4>My mom.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 7>Everyone like, we go to the same nail salon. Everyone's like,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 7>is it Tina or Ashley?

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Do people do people tell your mom you guys sound

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>alike my mom and I know, yeah, like, oh yeah,

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>my mom and I too. No matter which one of

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>us is calling, people never know which one of us.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 7>It's so funny. No, but having Jessica has just like

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 7>been like a lifeline. Honestly, Yeah, so great.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>The Ashley Simpson Show was another example of an undertaking

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>totally ahead of its time. It was a reality show

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>launching pad chronicling you making music. Was the show an

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>overall positive experience for you? I mean you've gone on

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to do it again with your husband Evan. But did

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you ever regret putting your teenage personal life on TV?

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 7>Not? I mean sometimes because now Jaggers found it my daughter,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 7>Oh so.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Just now there's some regret.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 7>Okay though, because the like that my best friends on

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 7>the show, Stephanie and Lauren, they're on the show with

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 7>me and they're like the godmothers of both my children.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 7>And there's many silly moments. I mean, the only thing

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 7>that kills me is like my voice. I'm like I

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 7>like this, ye, I'm like, oh my god, what was

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 7>this talking? I think, like naturally hearing the sound of

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 7>your voice. But then that one really kills me. But

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 7>I think for me though, it was so important because

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 7>it was such a window to my life and what

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 7>was changing. And I feel like it was like there

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 7>have been like my Sister's show, the Newlyweds and the

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 7>Osbourne's and this was like kind of the first of

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 7>that kind of like making like doing like an album,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 7>but not like making a band somebody putting right following

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 7>the process. And also because I'd been there during Newlyweds

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 7>a lot of the times, I'm like, get out on

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 7>my face. I definitely always had like a little I'm

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 7>probably like much nicer now than I like. I just

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 7>felt like I needed to be like, yeah, right right,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 7>you needed.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 2>To protect you felt like everyone there there's always the

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>possibility somebody's going to try to cross the line, and

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you were always going to be very quick to be

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not going to allow you to cross the

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>line exactly.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 7>But then I would always remind myself, it's okay, be vulnerable.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 7>This is you opening up and so I'm I do

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 7>love that. And then Evan and I did a show.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 7>I don't I don't even know what year that was,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 7>but then I was like, oh, yeah that's not for me.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Now, Okay, so not anymore.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm like nothing.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, so you're talking, you talk about your process

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 6>and then how it was, you know, when you're doing

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 6>that show. It's kind of the whole process you're going through.

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.280
<v Speaker 6>But a huge question.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 4>How does one write a song?

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 7>Hah? You know. I started writing when I was young,

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 7>and for me, like, I think it's just like finding

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 7>the team, the theme, and like I would be in

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 7>my car driving every day, like what just happened to me? What?

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 7>You know? I'm like, God, I mean I was dealing

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 7>with like first boyfriends and you know, oh, a lot

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 7>of the times I like to start with the concept okay, yeah,

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 7>concept and like what is that concept? And especially during

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 7>that time, because so many things were new, and like

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 7>having first boyfriends and first heartbreaks and you know, god,

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 7>I had a boyfriend that was like you look fat.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 7>You need to get on the treadmill. I'm like, you

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 7>get ready for what I'm about to say. I think

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 7>that there was just so many you know, feelings and

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 7>like for me, it was like every day, like what

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 7>you know what I was going through. Yeah, So I

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 7>think you start with the concept, then you get a guitar,

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 7>and then you just melodies or you know, and and

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 7>it really depends like every day. I mean in those

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 7>sessions it was different. It was like meet John and

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 7>Kara Dio Gordy and we were like an incredible team.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 7>So it was like we became family. So it just

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 7>kind of became like this every day. But I think

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 7>like a writing camp is great as well.

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And with a writing camp is that you and

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of other writers together pitching ideas like a

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 2>writer's room.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 7>Like you can like go into a writer's room like writing.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah exactly, Yeah, Okay, I saw I saw actual camp,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 6>Like it's you go to it.

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 4>It's like camp Rock, you do obstacle.

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 7>There's like I'm just saying for people, I haven't actually

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 7>done a writing camp, but like I have wrote with

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 7>different writers. Oh, like we are connected, we are feeling

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 7>each other. This music is going to be in the

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 7>right place.

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 4>It always. It's just the whole process fascinates me.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Because I saw a documentary Forget What It was called,

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 6>but they were talking about they're interviewing a bunch of

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 6>musicians who said, it's you don't write a song like

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 6>it's given to you by some other universe, Like it

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 6>just pops in and it just you don't know where

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 6>it comes from where, And it's just if as someone

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 6>who has no musical talent, it's so fascinating to see.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean definitely when I was younger, younger would annoy

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 7>my parents so much, like I had like my guitar player,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 7>this other guitar player, and we would be like singing

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 7>like I don't need you to be my backseat driver,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 7>really loud, like love it block at night, Which is

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 7>funny because now and Wronx my son, he's great at

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 7>writing and great at playing, but him and his friend

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 7>definitely play a loud at night. Oh like the circle

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 7>of everything.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 3>So are your kids in the industry?

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 7>If?

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>If not? If they wanted to be, would you allow

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>them to be.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 7>They are not in the industry. I would allow them

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 7>to be at their own pace. Okay, I would never

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 7>push it. I would just say I think the most

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 7>important thing and this age is developing your craft and

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 7>deciding what you want with it. Okay, I would never

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.479
<v Speaker 7>you know, be like, let's ployees go beyond on the show.

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 8>I really want to be in a stage, mom.

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 7>You know what. I really want to sit on set

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 7>and have you rolled your eyes at me?

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Our other co host who would normally be here, but

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.240
<v Speaker 2>his internet is not working today.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 3>A writer.

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>His son has started doing some voiceover work and he's

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>been having to drive him around auditions and he's like,

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>how did this happen? I used to be the kid

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>in the back seat not that long ago, and now

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm driving around LA and trafficked for my son.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy how it happens.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but you know, I think it's like, I mean,

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 7>i don't know what your thoughts are, but I'm definitely open.

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 7>I definitely see my daughter. I mean, she takes acting classes,

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 7>she likes I think when she's ready, you know.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and as long as she's not knocking down your

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>door begging to do it now, you're not trying to

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>rush it along like you said, let them lead the.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 7>Pace, get on the stage. I'm I'm not saying she's

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 7>not knocking on the door.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, she's yeah, ucations patients, deer patients, she just

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>want to or either. Will only has a step daughter

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>who is in her mid thirties, so it's a little

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>she's I don't think she's gonna.

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 4>Change for hers now. She's pretty set in her ways

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 4>at this point.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she's a wonderful interior designer. That was an interior design,

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 3>but I always need it now.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 6>So you mentioned that reality isn't for you anymore, But

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 6>would you ever consider getting back in front of the

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 6>camera in an acting job.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 7>Yes, definitely, and I'd love to do like more theater

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 7>I did Chicago. I did it on the West End

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 7>and Broadway and Hollywood Bowl.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Are you roxy Heart?

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 7>It was Roxy? Yeah. I played it so many different

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 7>times in my life, which was so fun, Like the

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 7>first time I played it in London, I was like

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 7>twenty two, and then I did it on Broadway when

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 7>I was twenty five, after I had had Bronx, and

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 7>then when I did it at the Hollywood Bowl, which

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 7>was so cool because I just started dating Evan. His

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 7>mom had a show there the week before and she

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 7>first met his mom, Diana or else that's the first

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 7>time I met her.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Was that's so cool?

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you met her at the Hollywood Bowl the

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 2>week before you then played the Hollywood that's cool.

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 7>I'm playing like, when I'm doing Vegas, it'll be our

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 7>eleventh year anniversary in the thirties, when I have a

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 7>show that's amazing. On our tenth we got that romantic

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 7>women because you.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Got to do something nice for ten.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Listen.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you about Bittersweet World too,

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>because over the years it has finally gotten the credit

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>that it deserved. But before I get there, I wanted

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you a little bit about the Internet,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>because I have always seen the SNL performance as a

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>real mask off moment for the toxicity that would later

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>become online bullying.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And we've all said, we've all heard that, like, oh,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>we've grown a bit.

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>As a society.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to ask you, as a person who

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 2>has felt the unwarranted wrath of its stupidity, do you

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>think we have grown it all as a society when

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>it comes to understanding that celebrities are human beings who

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 2>have flaws and make mistakes and also are real people.

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 7>I think it's a different era, you know. I don't

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 7>think if it was that moment and this era, would

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 7>it be that, you know, I think during that time,

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 7>I mean, the bullying was insane, insane, And that's what

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.720
<v Speaker 7>I was saying too earlier too about being a human

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 7>and being a human that oh, like oh she did

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 7>lose her voice. Oh that doesn't mean she didn't write

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 7>these songs and this is like her and like we

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 7>can't go back and see her on tour, which I

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 7>feel like I was able to do. But then my

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 7>whole life I did like tell people like and I

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 7>was like, what am I trying to tell people? Like yeah,

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 7>oh but night before him every night, like my fans know,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 7>and I had to know that in my heart, like oh,

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm selling out the Greek like you know, like I

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 7>am doing that, and like, yes, I've had a up

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 7>and downs, just like every other human. But I do

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 7>think it's evolved. But also it hasn't, you know, in

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 7>some ways. But it's evolved, Okay, but I think different

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 7>now for us, we had the magazines and this now

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 7>everything's kind of more fleeting. Yeah, now it's more like

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 7>here it is to be on your shoulders forever. Right

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 7>now everything is like a little bit more fleeting and fast.

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 4>We just have less attention spans.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 7>Now, so that's yeah, everyone's on the phone too much.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 6>Exactly, You've got TikTok and you've got everything anything over

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 6>ninety seconds, and an entire generation isn't going to follow.

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 4>It isn't going to watch. So yeah, crazy.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, Bittersweet World?

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Was it album you executive produced yourself and it really

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>felt like it was your vision?

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Did it?

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Was it? How was that album different for you?

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 7>Oh? That album was like I was just ready to

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 7>move into something different on that album, And when I

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 7>listened to it, I mean, it's actually fun because during

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 7>the Vegas show, I'm playing three of the songs from it.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 7>Oh boys, a little miss obsessive and out of my head.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 7>But looking back at it, it's so funny because I

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 7>do wish I would have evolved that album more because

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 7>some of the songs, I'm like, I love like where

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 7>I was going, but I would have like But it's

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 7>funny because this is before, this is two thousand and seven,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 7>this is before there's like a lot of big artists

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 7>out that ended up doing that. So it was like

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 7>kind of like the beginning again.

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 3>You were ahead of your time. You have been ahead

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:32.959
<v Speaker 3>of your time.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 7>I feel like there was some songs like ooh when

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 7>I heard it, I'm like, good, I wish I'm goud

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 7>have like wrapped up or like you know, i'd go.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 7>But I'm so proud of the album because I was

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 7>taking such chances of something. Yeah, and there are songs

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 7>that like, I love love love on that album, and

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 7>then songs that I'm like, oh, I would like to read

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 7>that one.

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh, can't.

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 6>You I mean, as an artist ever done that if

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 6>it's if it's yours, and you're like, you know what

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 6>I wish I did with this song?

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Can't you just take it? And then just yeah, I'm sure.

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm still like proud of it, but like

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, sonically or things like that, You're like, I

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 7>mean I think lyrically was really cool, So I mean

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 7>just some of it You're like, well was also two

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 7>thousand and seven, so yeah, said it was before Yeah, Yeah.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean you could definitely make the case that had you,

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you you look back and you think,

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>which I would.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 7>Have just out of my head and boys like which

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 7>I've been playing right now, I'm like, these are like,

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 7>oh that was good.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you enlisted names like Timbaland, Chad Hugo, Kenna,

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Jay Rock some of the best in the biz, and

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 2>you made an album that I truly believe was overlooked

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and helped usher in the nineteen eighties electro pop sound

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that basically rules pop music.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 7>Now that's what I was yeah inspired by, Yes, Yeah.

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And that album was also a catalyst for a twenty

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>eighteen article in the New York Times where the headline

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>was just was Ashley Simpson underappreciated? And then this year

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>we saw Autobiography, your debut picked as number two hundred

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and thirty seven on Rolling Stone's Top two hundred and

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>fifty Albums of the twenty first Century.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Damn that does any of that feel?

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Does that feel redeeming for you? Do you hear that

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and think, yes, I does that? That feels good? That

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<v Speaker 3>that feels nice? That does feel good good good as

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<v Speaker 3>it should.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that definitely feels good. And yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>in those moments and even in that record, it was

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<v Speaker 7>just kind of going with the things like I was

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<v Speaker 7>inspired by, and like I told you, I was definitely

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<v Speaker 7>so inspired by the eighties, even from like such a

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<v Speaker 7>young age. Yeah, getting to play with that and those

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 7>like sounds, and I mean even with autobiography, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>just this is.

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<v Speaker 2>All a big pad on our show Get Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big group out.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're talking because now I'm I'm not hugely musically fluent,

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<v Speaker 6>but I love eighties music. So it leads me to ask, then,

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<v Speaker 6>what did you listen to growing up? What were your

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<v Speaker 6>favorite bands when you were a.

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<v Speaker 7>Little Okay, So I loved like the Pretenders, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>me like, I love Pretenders, Blondie, w Harry Jones, Jets, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, good so good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thought they were.

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<v Speaker 7>Like women of strength, but yeah, they were just so

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<v Speaker 7>cool in my rocket.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Harry was hanging out with the Ramones for God's sakes,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you most looking forward to with your Vegas shows?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm most looking forward to just playing this set,

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<v Speaker 7>playing for the fans. The room is so beautiful and sexy,

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 7>and I'm excited to bring it this like fun rock

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 7>edge and just like myself, and I'm excited to play

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 7>the songs. And you know, I think just getting there

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 7>and seeing what the first day feels like. I'm so

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 7>happy I have seven shows and I feel like every

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 7>show would be different, and I'm looking forward.

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<v Speaker 3>To that so great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you have been asked in every interview, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know all of our listeners want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever think new music could be in your future?

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely? You know, I've been writing here and there, and

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 7>I think right now, like the moment is it's like,

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<v Speaker 7>let's enjoy this, you know, the like path now the

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<v Speaker 7>future and see what that opens up, you know for

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 7>me in my heart, you know, and once you know,

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<v Speaker 7>once I'm there, then I'll really know. I love that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I still like whatever I do. I still

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 7>want to take my business school.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. And those are the two places we got

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 3>to go.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Pretzel, I'm all day now.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's not far well you can go.

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<v Speaker 4>To it's a big commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, if you could go back, as you're prepping for

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<v Speaker 2>these anniversary shows and you could tell young Ashley one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you tell young Ashley twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 7>I would just look at myself and be like, you

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<v Speaker 7>are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, Yes, you're doing great.

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think so much. You know, so you've done

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 7>having that dancer background and everything, we just you know,

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 7>beat ourselves down and just to look at yourself and say, wow,

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 7>like you are doing so good, look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Your Yeah, that makes me so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful you spent your time with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited for your Vegas residency.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you so much.

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It was so great to see you. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>come see your show. I also want to see you

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 2>again at the mall. We also our neighbors. We need

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to get our kids together and just hang out. I'd

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 2>love to get to know your husband better as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, let's please.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. Ashley, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, thank you, fine, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't she great?

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<v Speaker 4>She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>She's amazing, And it's one of those things where I

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 6>don't know her music all that well. So I keep

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 6>hearing you and Jensen talking about kind of the underrated

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 6>songwriting and all that stuff.

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I just I gotta go listen. I gotta at some.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 6>Point realize apparently there's music after nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Will, just like when you were like, I

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm going to know very many of the

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Backstreet Boy songs, and then when you're sitting there and

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you're at the Sphere show and you're listening, you're like,

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I know significantly more of these than

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought, And on top of that, I like significantly

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 2>more than I thought I would like. I actually have

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>a feeling you would very much enjoy Ashley Simpson music.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I really do.

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I know your musical taste enough. I think there's quite

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a bit that you would really like.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it's anything like Alanis Morrist, but

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<v Speaker 6>Jagie Little Pill's one of my favorite albums of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to listen to that just on repeat. So yeah, no,

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 4>it's She's super c You gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to Bittersweet World. You'd like it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, check out check Not doing anything until I get

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 6>a Wetzel's pretzel now, Unfortunately, that's my day, Ashley.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we're sorry everyone that writer was in here today.

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Internet can be fickle unless you live in our little

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 2>tiny spot of the San Fernando Valley. So yeah, I

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 2>guess uh, who knows what happened, but we'll catch up

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>with him later. And anyway, thank you all for joining

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