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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. You know around the freaking team

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Speaker 1: for like twenty years. I mean absolutely, I don't what

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Speaker 1: does it give me any credential? And you know, people

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Speaker 1: look at Bill is like, you know, kind of straight lace.

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Speaker 1: He's a rebel, He's a rabbel rouser. He's been all

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Speaker 1: his life. I was interested in hiring Gerad that would

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Speaker 1: be part of my interview. Was like, Gerarde, what do

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Speaker 1: you do there? I just want to say something about

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia because you know, it's it's you know, hunting season,

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Nation. Instead of killing this guy, they should be

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Speaker 1: thanking him. Yeah, I mean sorry, I mean the sacrifices

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Speaker 1: that this man made. Yeah, I mean why do you

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Speaker 1: have to like thank him? He did a terrible job,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have to call him names. I get that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really we should thank him to thank you

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Speaker 1: for wasting a year. Thank you. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: we should just buy him like a new car. If

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Speaker 1: they're good, they're good. I don't care who their daddy.

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Speaker 1: Is This is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. No right

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Speaker 1: there what that referred to? All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're in between having one of our first emergency podcasts

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. In case you missed it, we

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Speaker 1: got together on Friday to discuss the release that went

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Speaker 1: out Thursday night. We felt it was warranted. Um And

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Speaker 1: you can see it right away. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: to digest it. Now things are happening around the league

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Speaker 1: and you know, uh, Deuce is here, to Marius here, Evan, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I'm here, Matt's in the booth. It's it's a full house.

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Speaker 1: Got faith, don't forget about faith. Faith making addition, Faith

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Speaker 1: is learning the ropes in the producer room. So, um,

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Speaker 1: but you know, any thoughts you know, from Thursday to

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Speaker 1: now about that release? I mean, sure, I'll go No,

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Speaker 1: I'm Lumberjacks come off season two, so right now I

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Speaker 1: got off season a little shave going. Um oh, A

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Speaker 1: couple of things. I mean, I I just think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is it sounds like they're going

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna be doing the whole Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Dog and Pony show that goes on an extensive interview process.

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Speaker 1: We decided to stay with Matt. We just uh, they

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Speaker 1: I just like that we talked about last week. Didn't

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna bring a guy in and kind of

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Speaker 1: It's just just you know, my god, how much of

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Speaker 1: a societal thing. It's not just the NFL, but the

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Speaker 1: whole interview process for coaching is so out of whack.

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Speaker 1: In Cleveland, they brought Brian Flores in for the first interview.

427
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Speaker 1: Pretty much every single sign pointed to Brian Flores getting

428
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Speaker 1: the job. In this morning, they announced Jim Schwartz is

429
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Speaker 1: the defensive corner. Let's see how many he's coorted every

430
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Speaker 1: defense in the league, and it's just this is his

431
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: fourth this is his fourth stint as a defensive coordinator

432
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: fourth stint as a DC. And then I also look

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Speaker 1: at the Patriots situation. We all think Bill O'Brien's the

434
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Speaker 1: best guy for the job. Tom Kerran's reporting that the

435
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: people in football ops thinks that Bill O'Brien's the best

436
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: guy for the job, but because of the Rooney rule,

437
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a minority coach come in for a

438
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: sham interview like they're not if they have you know,

439
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: Pet Hamilton and Marcus Brady in here for an they're

440
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: not getting the job. Bill Brian's getting the job right,

441
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Speaker 1: And I just I feel bad for wasting those people's time. Yep.

442
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Speaker 1: I feel bad about it because and I think the

443
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Speaker 1: Rooney rule is trying to accomplish the right thing. It's

444
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Speaker 1: you know, if you look at it as experience interviewing

445
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Speaker 1: for that job, you know it's not a waste of time.

446
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: But I hear, yeah, sometimes though, it's like checking a

447
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Speaker 1: box when a team already knows like that they're gonna hire.

448
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: Oh look, that's what it is. Yeah. I just I

449
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: just feel like there's a at the end of the day,

450
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the guy that gets the job is gonna it was predetermined,

451
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: Like the Browns knew that Jim Schwartz was getting that job.

452
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: They did. And how many times, and I think this

453
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Speaker 1: is a good honest question for like a GM or something.

454
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Speaker 1: How many times are you actually swayed in an interview

455
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Speaker 1: where you went in thinking this is our our guy

456
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden somebody blows you out

457
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: of the water and you completely pivot. It happened to me.

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Speaker 1: And uh, when I interviewed with you, No, that was

459
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Speaker 1: a long time. I appreciate you. No, there was a

460
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Speaker 1: recent hire that we made. Um. She came in and

461
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: blew us away and we ended up hiring her instead

462
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Speaker 1: of the other person that we had as number one Nicolette. Yeah. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: But I will say on the opposite side, I have

464
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Speaker 1: interviewed with a team that I will remain nameless, and

465
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Speaker 1: I felt like they wasted my time in the sense

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Speaker 1: of they brought me in like made it seem like,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, they were really interested in me. I felt

468
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: like I blew it away. I mean, the people I

469
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: talked to you said I did an incredible job, and

470
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Speaker 1: all along they were going to hire someone else. The

471
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Speaker 1: entire time, it was almost just like, Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: a minority person in for an interview. We did it, yea,

473
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Speaker 1: and but we're still going to go with this, and

474
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Speaker 1: it's so annoying happening to me three times when I

475
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Speaker 1: was working for you, you know. Stories. Yeah, I just

476
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Speaker 1: feel bad for because I got asked this question because

477
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Speaker 1: I didn't put a minority coach on my initial candidates list.

478
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Speaker 1: So somebody said, well, how are they gonna how are

479
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Speaker 1: they going to check off the Rooney rule box. It's

480
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: like the fact that I have to throw somebody out

481
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Speaker 1: there just to check a box is so so funny.

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Speaker 1: You said, I purposely didn't put a minority candidate in

483
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Speaker 1: my notes today for that exact reason, because I know

484
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: people are just gonna say, well, look at him, he's

485
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: being the good company boy. He's just like putting it

486
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: down there, so people won't know. That's up to the

487
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Speaker 1: Patriots to figure out who they're going to interview, not me.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't know what the answer

489
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Speaker 1: is to fix the process, because this happens in all

490
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: walks of life, that you have a candidate that you

491
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Speaker 1: like and that guy gets the job or that girl

492
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: gets the job, even if you have ten people in

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Speaker 1: for interviews. So it's not like it's just in the NFL,

494
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Speaker 1: But I just feel like they're just marching these these

495
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Speaker 1: minority coaches into these interviews just because, you know, but

496
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Speaker 1: they have On the other side of it, it's it's

497
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Speaker 1: probably good for teams to, you know, meet these people

498
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Speaker 1: and find out who they are, because you never know

499
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Speaker 1: three years from now, you know, you know, we had

500
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Speaker 1: that he was good. Let's bring him back, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe familiarize yourself with with people, just like

502
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Speaker 1: a Gerad situation with Carolina for example, and did he

503
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Speaker 1: get intel out of Carolina that you're not actually getting

504
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: this job, right like we they have somebody that they

505
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Speaker 1: want that they're targeting, and they're bringing you in because

506
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Speaker 1: they have to, but you're not actually getting this job.

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00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Same thing with Cleveland because Brian Flores took the interview

508
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Speaker 1: and got passed over by Jim Schwartz, who has failed

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Speaker 1: three different times as a defensive coordinator. Also, remember you

510
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Speaker 1: know Bill famously texted the wrong Brian about the Giants

511
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Speaker 1: job and he was actually telling what he meant to

512
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Speaker 1: be doing is telling Dable, yeah, you got the job.

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00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: I found out, But wasn't that the timing of that

514
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: before the interview process had been finished, so that was

515
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: in the bag, right you know, yeah, who you know,

516
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Speaker 1: whoever was interviewed after the date of that text. I

517
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Speaker 1: don't think there's an I don't think there's anything wrong

518
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Speaker 1: with having it in the bag. I don't think there's

519
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: anything wrong. But the Patriots want Bill O'Brien. Boy, it

520
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: just happens. Yeah, But because of the way the rules

521
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: are set up, you can't do that anymore, right, right,

522
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: Like that that's the problem. I think there's there's got

523
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Speaker 1: to be a better way to get minority candidates in

524
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Speaker 1: the in the building in like you know, in the game, right, yeah,

525
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: well instead of having a sham interview, Like is there

526
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Speaker 1: another process? It has to be a better way. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: you know, whether it be you know, what are the

528
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know, for colleges, so I'm trying

529
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Speaker 1: to think of someone who got fired recently. I can't

530
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Speaker 1: even think of one right now off the top of

531
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Speaker 1: my head. But for colleges, most times they have a

532
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: committee that brings in different people, so like it's it

533
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: could be biased, but it's less biased because you have

534
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: so many people involved in like inserting names, so then

535
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Speaker 1: you can decide from that group. Of names who you

536
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Speaker 1: actually want to bring in first of you, Yeah, what

537
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: is the team? What is the There's some kind of

538
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: an event that the NFL has now where the owners

539
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: are there and they and the teams. But I think

540
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Steve Cargyle went to it with the Patriots and the

541
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Speaker 1: goal is to get um as many of the minority

542
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: decision makers for lack of you know, coaches, personnel, guys, whatever,

543
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: all in the room with all of the owners. And

544
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: now this way they all get to meet owners from

545
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: all the difference. It's not interviews, but you sort of

546
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: you get more familiar with the process and with the people.

547
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Speaker 1: That's how I mean, how did anybody ever get a job? Like?

548
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Speaker 1: It was the vast majority of people in this world

549
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: is it's but I'm not even talking about old boy.

550
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: It's it's connections. It's networking. Yeah, that that I mean

551
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: that that's word of mouth. How did I get this?

552
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Like Brian Morey, I played baseball within college. Right Mike

553
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Reese left and he said, hey, what do you think

554
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: That's how I came here? Right? Like, It's it's all

555
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: word of mouth and networks. So if you if you

556
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: get but if you're not get these people in the network.

557
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: And now to Tamara's point, the next time I have

558
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: a search committee, well maybe Marcus Brady is in that

559
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: group with Bill O'Brien more frequently because I know him.

560
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: I met this guy. He really impressed me. I like him.

561
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: Wasn't an interview, It wasn't a forced interview, which I

562
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: don't think is the way to get this done. I

563
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: just it's like, it's just hard because the NFL is

564
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: so small. I don't have the answer, but you know,

565
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of know everybody who's you know,

566
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: other industries. I mean, I you know, agree with the

567
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: bigger point that this exists everywhere, but I think two

568
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: with you know, just in New England, who are we

569
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Speaker 1: going to guys that we that we're here, you know so,

570
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: and most teams aren't willing to take chances. Yeah, you

571
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: know that's I mean, that's I mean, and that's why

572
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: everyone's like Bill O'Brien right here, we go right back

573
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: on that track. Well, because everybody here automatically thinks that

574
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: Bill won't go outside his comfort zone. That's why I

575
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: leaned to Bill o'bion, you won't all right. Five hundred

576
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: is the ACE ticket hot line web radio at Patriots

577
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: dot com is the email address the games this weekend?

578
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah. I was particularly happy for Trevor Lawrence.

579
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Speaker 1: Even when he fell behind. I knew he was going

580
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: to come back and make it close. You watch the

581
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: whole thing I did. Wait wait, wait, wa wait you

582
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: knew that? Oh yeah, you knew it? Absolutely, asked my wife,

583
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: I said, he's going to come back. Don't work. I

584
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: will say that there are just not many players that

585
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: I think mentally can overcome throwing that many interceptions and

586
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: a half being down like that. Yes, just mentally, especially

587
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a guy who this is

588
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: his first playoffs, this was his first time in the

589
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: wild card game, like just he could have easily been like, well,

590
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: we made it to the playoffs. You know, that's an

591
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: accomplishment in itself. Yeah, well we'll try to get Sandy. Sandy.

592
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: The Chargers helped a little, h a lot. But but yeah,

593
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: you're right to have the mindset to just come out

594
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: and keep keep working at it, you know. And I

595
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: guess that first year helped him. You know what he

596
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: went through with urban Meyer and all that crap. You know,

597
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: it can't get worse than that, and that helped him.

598
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, in this league, and so

599
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: I was glad that, you know, they advanced. I don't

600
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: think they're going to beat the Bills, but you know,

601
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I was wherever they play, they're the fourth seed of

602
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: the remaining four in the AFC, and but I'm happy

603
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: that he got through that. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

604
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: just bigger points to take away from me was just

605
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: generally from the weekend, was like, there are definitely three

606
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: top AFC teams, but I don't see why the Patriots

607
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: can't get back into this, you know, lower echelon mix

608
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: with the Chargers and the Ravens and but but you know,

609
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: it's just I think you look in the off season,

610
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: it seemed like, God, the AFC is so stacked, and

611
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: then when you really boil it down to the end

612
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: of the year and you get to the playoffs, and

613
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: you see, all right, like, yeah, they're they're outside, but

614
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: they're not that far off when it's Mahomes versus Burrow

615
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: in the championship game. But it's three teams. But I

616
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Speaker 1: would have liked to play. See. I just looked at it,

617
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Speaker 1: and I'm a little not surprisingly, I looked at it

618
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: a little bit less optimistically than Mike. I look at

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Speaker 1: some of those, like, you know, like Miami goes up

620
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Speaker 1: to Buffalo and they had every opportunity to win the game. Now,

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Speaker 1: I thought they were thoroughly all played in the game,

622
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: and the turnovers kept them in it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills did a lot of things to

624
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Speaker 1: try to keep you in the game too, when you

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: couldn't stay in the game. Yeah, and that's a lower

626
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: echelon team with a third string rookie quarterback playing like

627
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Speaker 1: that's not I'm not comparing them to since the Kansas

628
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Speaker 1: City and Buffalo, I'm comparing them to Miami. Miami found

629
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Speaker 1: a way to play the Bills three times, nose to nose, yep,

630
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: Like it helps when the quarterback turns it over four times. No,

631
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. There were there were

632
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: mistakes made, you know, But I think the Bills made

633
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes against the Patriots, and the Patriots

634
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it. I look at it as

635
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: a positive, and then I also have a negative on

636
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: it as well. But I think positively Doug Peterson to

637
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and Brian Dable to Daniel Jones, and like

638
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: these coaches were able to obviously what's going on in

639
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco, like these coaches are able to make up

640
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: for it. But I think the negative is is that

641
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: you have to have one or the other. You either

642
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: have to have great coaching. You'd have to have great coaching,

643
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: or you have to have great talent. But if you

644
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots right now, I feel like have neither and

645
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: that's not a good place to be. And now if

646
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: they fix off it's a coordinator, maybe they can get

647
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: back to that level of a Dable with Daniel Jones

648
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: type of path. But you can't be a team with neither.

649
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: But you can be a team with one or the

650
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: other and you can still win playoff games with great

651
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: coaching or great play. And I think that this weekend

652
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: you saw that all across the league, and then you

653
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: also saw coaches below games for their teams. I think

654
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: that I'm a big Mike McDaniel guy. I loved him

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: all season long what he did on against the buff

656
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: the Bills on fourth down and he can't get the

657
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: play in and they have all sorts of procedural issues.

658
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: They're burning timeouts in the fourth quarter because they can't

659
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: get plays in and things like that. That's that's terrible.

660
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's terrible coaching the Ravens too. I'm like,

661
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: you literally had a chance in the final two minutes

662
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: to make this game something different than what it was.

663
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: And I just felt like they didn't know what they

664
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: were doing. Why are you still huddling up? The clock

665
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: is rolling? Are you doing That's what they wanted to do. Yeah,

666
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: they wanted to score in the last second, right, it

667
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: was I think a gross miscalculation, especially for the Ravens,

668
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: a team that wants to run the ball. Yeah, by

669
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: letting the clock run, you're basically taking the runaway from you. Like,

670
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: you can't ask Tyler Huntley yes to throw eight passes

671
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: in the last minute, in twenty seconds of the game.

672
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: It's not what he does. So I think by not

673
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: taking those timeouts now, but that's exactly what they weren't confused.

674
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, Miami, they weren't unprepared. I just think that

675
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: they had a bad plan, right, you have that, and

676
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: I thought that plan would have worked if like Lamar

677
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: was in. But like that second half for Staley and

678
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I can't believe he kept his job. I

679
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: can't believe it. They have told you, I would have

680
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: made him be like Tom Cruise in all the right moves. Steph, Georgevitch,

681
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: You're not a lot to go back on the bus

682
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: you walk home from Walnut Heights twenty seven. He should

683
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: have had to get his own flight. You run the

684
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: ball nine times in the second half of twenty seven

685
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: to nothing. Yeah, and your defense completely gets outplayed and

686
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: you never you'd never adjust defensively. That's supposed to be

687
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: your side of the football. I don't. I just don't know.

688
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what they see in the coach. I don't.

689
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: And that's such a great roster in such a great

690
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: quarterback that if you just drop and if like if

691
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: Sean Payton took that job, then then they they'd have

692
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: a chance to win a Super Bowl. I think they

693
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: have to find a way to get their personnel active.

694
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's the common thing. It's just

695
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: it's a loaded roster. But when they play the games,

696
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: they usually don't have a loaded roster. I mean it's

697
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer and Keenan Allen in Austin Eckler. I mean,

698
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I think Gerald Edward is fine, He's okay. I mean

699
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: we talked about Carter too, right, I mean he's like

700
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: the scrap heap, Yeah, I mean that's like the third

701
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: receiver in that game was DeAndre Carter. You know, you

702
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: know in the secondary, they lose Mike Davis and you know,

703
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: and that was also a big injury, you know, one

704
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: of the starts. So now you're out, you're two starting corners.

705
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't I think they're good. I have a concern.

706
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: I love Justin Herbert and I've said this a million times.

707
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I love, love, love his skill. I just don't know

708
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: if he's got that loser thing in him that he

709
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: can't get knocked out. There's no way that any quarterback

710
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: should have lost that game. I don't care if you

711
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: run eight plays, eight runs, twenty five runs, like, all

712
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: you need to do is get like two first downs

713
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: and the game is over. And they couldn't do it.

714
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: That's why I think that the right and they're gonna

715
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: hire an offensive coordination. Maybe it's Frank Reich and maybe

716
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: he gets it out of him, but I think that

717
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that you need to have

718
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: the right coach to pair with to get that killer

719
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: instinct out of him. Because this year he was thirty

720
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: first in the league in air yards. He's got one

721
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: of the best arms in the league, and they're thinking

722
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and dunking down the field. And if you don't coach

723
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: it in him to be more aggressive, then then he

724
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: clearly is is cool with that right of just throwing

725
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: five yard passes. They got Josh Allen and he's playing

726
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith like that. You just can't have that.

727
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: I think part of that was with all the injuries

728
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: that they had, both in the receiving quarters. They were

729
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: without Allen and Williams for a large chunk of the year,

730
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: and then Rashawn Slater goes down like they're gonna find

731
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: a way because they're gonna waste a window because they

732
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: are good enough to be a you know, a second

733
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: weekend playoff team. Minimize AFC, NFC. Forget about the two

734
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: teams that had buys, who were the two strongest team

735
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: that came out of this weekend San Francisco, they're wagon

736
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: even with Bertie. You believe it. I believe in Kyle

737
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: and that he was really shaky early in that game,

738
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: but then he settled down and he was fine. At me. Yeah,

739
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish I could say the Bills with

740
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: the Bengals, but you know, I don't think that they

741
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: played as well as you thought they were going to play.

742
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: The Bengals have some issues up front. Yeah, I think

743
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: the Bills, like for the past two weeks, what six toneovers?

744
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: I might be missing one. But they're lucky they've played

745
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: two bad teams in a row, because if they didn't,

746
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sorry, if they didn't. Miami with Tua is

747
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: not bad. But I think that if they played somebody

748
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: else the past two weeks, they wouldn't have want. Yeah,

749
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: they got lucky. They come out with three turnovers again

750
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: unless unless not gonna win, unless they're suffering from playing

751
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: down to their competition. That film, for Josh Allen is brutal.

752
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: It's bad. I just think they look exhausted. He just

753
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: has taken vertical shots with guys underneath the defense just

754
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: wide open, and they're just baiting him into into go

755
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: balls on the outside, and he's just sure, let's do this,

756
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hit thirty percent of them, Like so

757
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: you know how good they are. Everything that everybody is

758
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: saying is exactly true. Five hundred plush yards of offense

759
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: and thirty four points oh yeah. I mean, that's how

760
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: good they are. They can play like utter crap and

761
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: still do that right, And they did play like crap,

762
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: no mistake. I think it's a big difference with Dable

763
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: and Dorsey, right because Dable was able to get him

764
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: to be more efficient, and that's how they tore up

765
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots last year, was that he was willing to

766
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: take the profits underneath the defense and thinking dunk a

767
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: little bit and not have to go for the home

768
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: run on every single play against them. Against the Dolphins,

769
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: he was back to just I'm just gonna make a

770
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: fifty yard bomb happen on it. Even the second like

771
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: the first game against the Patriots, I thought they largely

772
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: stayed with what Dable did. It was a lot of

773
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: dumps over the middle to like Shingle, checked outs to

774
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: even shorter throws to digs Um, you know, and that worked.

775
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: And then the second game, the one in Buffalo in

776
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: the last game of the season, I thought it was

777
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more what Evan's talking about. And you know,

778
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: he hit them, you know, so that you know, those

779
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: are the two backbreaking touchdowns in the fourth quarter. But

780
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, I don't care how good

781
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: you are. Those aren't always the high percentage plays. Yeah,

782
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: and of course, uh for me at least we had

783
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: the disappointing game last night with Brady. Is that his

784
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: last game with them? Yes? No? In the NFL? No,

785
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think. I think it

786
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: should be. I think, but he's not gonna you know,

787
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: now that he's divorced. No, I'm serious, it's got nothing

788
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: for the season. I said this would be his last year,

789
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and I think if he was still married it would be.

790
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: But now, I mean single Brady in one year in

791
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Vegas playing for the Raiders. That sounds like that. But

792
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: what does that sound like? Yeah, I mean that he

793
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: live in a hotel. I don't think single Brady would have.

794
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: I mean that makes a lot of sense him going

795
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: to Vegas, going with Josh McDaniels, all those tools that

796
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: are already there, um doing a residency, you know, I

797
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: think I think it makes you know, like before everyone

798
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: was saying, oh, forty nine ers, but are they gonna

799
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: stick with Like, let's say this guy makes a run.

800
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Let's also never forget about Trey Lance. Well go get

801
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: Purty because I heard ivn't doing a whole thing this

802
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: morning with Chris about about Purdy and and and Zappy

803
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: and the same. It's ridiculous he does. He thinks, so Purty,

804
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: fifty percent of his throws were off play action, seventy

805
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: something percent of his yards were yak right, Like he

806
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: throws a ten yard crosser to Deebo Samuel and he

807
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: takes its seventy five yards of the house. Who I

808
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: know what, I gotta be honest with you, and I'm

809
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: not talking about I don't think Purty played all that well.

810
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I watched that whole game and he was shaking. When

811
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks receivers have a lot of yak Is that

812
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: also an indication that he's very accurate hitting him? And

813
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: there was two unbelievable blocks, one by Kittle and one

814
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: by Ayuk. I sent a text I sent to text

815
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: him like, I go, is even a better block the

816
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They they hit three shop plays in

817
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: that game on the same concept. They ran the same

818
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: play three times and Seattle is in cover three all

819
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: three times and got beat all three times. Like, I'm sorry.

820
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: I think that he's got some skill. He's clearly doing

821
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: enough to not get in the way of that offense.

822
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: But we don't need to give every quarterback that the

823
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: moment isn't too big for him. We don't have to

824
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: get like that's the bottom line, like that's the baseline

825
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: of it. And we we we crack underlying the Green

826
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: Bay game, all the moment's not too big for him. Cool,

827
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: but hold on, the jury is still out. But if

828
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: he does make a run, he'll have done it against

829
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the best teams in his conference. And I think that

830
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: means but is it him or the team is? The

831
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: team is extremely talented, It's unbelievable, and Kyle Shanahan is

832
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: the best offensive coach in the league besides maybe Andy Reid.

833
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give it right now to Kyle Shanahan.

834
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: And he is making throws that that mac that zappy

835
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: that you know sky Tyler Thompson could could could make.

836
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, the moment wasn't too big for Skylett Thompson,

837
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: But we don't talk about that because he lost. Right,

838
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: he didn't play that bad. I mean, I know the

839
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: numbers are terrible, but I don't think you've got any help.

840
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: It's this this argument of poise, like, oh he was

841
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: poised well, when there's when he's got a pocket and

842
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: he's got receivers that are open, and then the receivers

843
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: take the ball and do things with it, Like, it's

844
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: probably pretty easy to look poised, like, but do you

845
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 1: think that there's anything to take that Other NFL teams

846
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: are taken from this? And I know that the forty

847
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1054
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Speaker 1: to be served, you know, he comes walking up, sits

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: down and puts the puts the sandwich in the middle

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00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: of the table. If he wants to say that, I

1057
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: walked through the press box with attitude to let everybody know, Yeah, yeah,

1058
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: that's I would absolutely I'd cop to that. Yeah, put

1059
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: it down. And then when you sat down, what did

1060
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: you do? I just put the I put my sandwich

1061
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: down and sat down and ate it. I wouldn't do that.

1062
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: So you weren't trying to make a statement. It is

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, I necessarily say I wasn't

1064
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: making a state right in the middle. I had one

1065
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: too many pieces of chicken with a bone in it.

1066
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: He put right in the It was. It was, and

1067
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: everybody was pissed. But I was the only one that

1068
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: did anything about it. And we were cracking up, like

1069
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: like we were all laughing because we knew what he

1070
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: was doing. It's like I've had it. I literally I

1071
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: literally went to the line, turned and said, I can't

1072
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: do this again. I'm going I'm going to Deangelos and

1073
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: I went to get a sub and I was back

1074
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: in ten minutes and they would die. Fred's right, they

1075
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: would die in last night. That might be beyond stake

1076
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: tips next week. That's another great moment from all right

1077
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: back here on Patriots on Filter at eight five five

1078
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: five Ticket Hutline Web Radio at Patriots dot com, continuing

1079
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: our discussion with the weekends happenings around the NFL. The

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: Patriots released Thursday Night and what will happen going forward? Uh,

1081
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. People patiently waiting there. Jonas

1082
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: is in Kingston. What's up? Jonas? Hey? Fred? Hey at one.

1083
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for all the stuff this year. Um,

1084
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: it's been fantastic. Thank you adding Evan, Um, great great edition,

1085
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, thank you. Yeah, no, it's been really good,

1086
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: really helpful. Uma. Uh uh sorry if I sound a

1087
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: little them. Uh my my my father in law died

1088
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: last week. Oh geez, sorry about that. No, no, that's fine. Um,

1089
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to express you guys was, uh,

1090
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: it's very funny. Super article around his death. Um. Somebody

1091
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: who employed him after his major career described him as

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00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady of of his whatever you know, you

1093
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: know career, which would have made my father in law

1094
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: very uh would have made him, would have made him

1095
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: very uh happy or whatever, because my father in law

1096
00:55:52,440 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: hated Tom Brady whole story, but he hated that he left.

1097
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: He's like, du no, you know he hated. Okays like

1098
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: can't I can't handle it, Evan, can't have another one.

1099
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate um, we appreciate you appreciating us. So oh no, no,

1100
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: no again. You guys have done a great job this year,

1101
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: the last two or three years. This has been a

1102
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: tough time, all right for tenty nineteen, things seem to

1103
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: really pick up. Let's go to Rashad in Baltimore. What's up, Rashad? Hey,

1104
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? I got I got a few

1105
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: things about the about the playoffs, but I got I

1106
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: got a question for Evan about about the draft. But my, my,

1107
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: my take on the playoffs this weekend the forty nine is,

1108
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: I feel like the system just is easier to any quarterback,

1109
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Like if you put Mac Jones in a system, he

1110
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: would do good, if not better than Purdy and uh game.

1111
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm with spread on that. Like I knew the charges

1112
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: gonna choke because that's what they've done all my life

1113
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: pretty much. They've always you know, been let they fans down.

1114
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: So I knew in some way they the Jay Watson

1115
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: going to come back. And my thing, okay, having my

1116
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: question for you is um, all right, so the Patriots

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: at pick fourteen last say they going best player available?

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00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: All right? So you have Paris Johnson, you have Nolan Smith,

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00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: and you have Jordan Addison. Who would you take? And

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Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about the draft, I

1121
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: don't like that the jet literally one spot ahead of us. Yeah,

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00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yet. Where I'm at with with

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: the draft now that I'm starting to really get into

1124
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: this is I'm ready to be hurt again, deuce like

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm ready for them to take cold strange two point

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00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: er and break my heart. So I think all the

1127
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: name brands that we throw out there at fourteen is

1128
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: not going to end up being who the guy is.

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00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: And uh, but out of to answer your question, I

1130
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of it depends on what they do

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: in free agency, because I think that there's a good

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: chance that looking at this free agent market and the

1133
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: fact that they're going to have some money to spend,

1134
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: that they might throw some money at tackle, which might

1135
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: take that off the board in the first round. So

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00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going um with that position,

1137
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: but they might go that way. I like Paris Johnson,

1138
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: I like Broderick Jones from Georgia. Both those guys can

1139
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: play the tackle. From Northwestern I think is a good

1140
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: prospect as well. Yeah, I think all those guys are areas.

1141
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: Do you think as a free agent tackle, do you

1142
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: think Michael Michael McGlinchey, I think that's his name. Do

1143
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: you think that's that's a good target. Yeah. I just

1144
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: think mcglinchy. If just looking at their track record of

1145
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: of who the guys that they spend money on in

1146
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: free agency, he reminds me a lot of Stefan Gilmour

1147
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: and that they couldn't get him in the draft because

1148
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: he went and overall in the draft that he was

1149
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: picked in. So maybe a guy that they graded really

1150
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: highly coming out of Notre Dame, but they didn't ever

1151
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: have a chance to pick him. Now he's at UFA,

1152
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: they're able to get their hands on him and they

1153
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: pay him a contract because they think that here he's

1154
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: going to be even better than he was in an

1155
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: outside zone system in San Francisco. So I love that

1156
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: idea because I think you pay him and then right

1157
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: tackles set like you got a right tackle and you

1158
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: just you go from there. Thanks for sure. But yeah,

1159
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: I like Jordan Addison too from USC the receiver, more

1160
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: of that separation, quickness, route running and not like a

1161
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston from TCU, who's who's like a big bodied guy.

1162
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: So I like Addison the lock rights in. Uh he's

1163
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: from Everett. Oh okay, he's writing at web radio at

1164
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: pictures dot com. He says, that got my free first

1165
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: alert the other day. There you go. All I could

1166
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: picture was you three guys throwing on your Patriot blue

1167
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: flashing light on your hoods, Fred blowing red lights, Mike

1168
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: whipping around rotaries, and Paul throwing down his chicken cutlet

1169
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: sub from the Plosse's say the good thing. I gotta

1170
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: go there. There's been an alert. That's what makes you

1171
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: guys the original broadcast at number one. Keep up the

1172
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: great work so you can get those uh notices. Why

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: I have alerts and I gotta feel them. We'll have

1174
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: a few more. You go to stats dot com slash

1175
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: audio slash alerts and you'll be notified whenever we have

1176
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: an emergency podcast. So do you think if if we

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Speaker 1: get word that they interviewed a candidate on like a

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: Wednesday emergency podcast or no, uh, just the depth they

1179
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: just interviewed somebody. No, I agree, yeah, no, have to

1180
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: be higher. I mean that hopefully we'll get word of

1181
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: it and we'll put it out there as a report

1182
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, so you'll know about it on

1183
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: PAGs dot com. But I don't think that rises to

1184
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: the level. I was waiting for Paul to say we

1185
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: need to have a Wednesday shown on a Wednesday all

1186
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: the time. I would rather have it, you know, twelve

1187
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: to two. But every day he doesn't want to do it.

1188
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: He's the boss. Yeah, sometimes you just have to, you know,

1189
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: let Matt Patricia make the place not talk, just not

1190
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 1: talk for two hours on Wednesday, and then thank him after.

1191
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Benn in Liverpool says pretty simple question was or has

1192
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: Joe Judge been giving enough blame for how the team

1193
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: performed this year? All the attention seemed to go to

1194
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Mac and more so on Patricia. Dare I say it,

1195
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: even Bill, but Joe Judge, who has no time for Christmas,

1196
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: seemed to skate along until the end of the season.

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: With hindsight looking at how well the Giants and Daniel

1198
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: Jones had done this year, was the bigger mistake hiring

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge as QB coach or Patricia as OCT Christmas Yeah, Patricia,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean I didn't like either one of them,

1201
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: but there's only one guy that was calling the place. Yeah, right,

1202
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach? Just throw them all on the play. Like,

1203
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters how much we divvy up

1204
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: to each guy, to be honest with you, but if

1205
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: you let's play though, if you were to divvy it

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01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: up and you would say, that's a quarter back coach issue, like,

1207
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: what would be an example of something that's a quarterback coach?

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01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Here's you know, usually a strong OC is also the

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. You know, a real So this is you know,

1210
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying rare, but you know it's not typical.

1211
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: So if you had a really good quarterbacks coach and

1212
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: you saw the OC not calling good plays, would that

1213
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: quarterback coach be more at odds with the OC to say, hey,

1214
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: you're screwing up the quarterback here, and did that happen?

1215
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: Did that? Maybe? I don't know, you know, like I

1216
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: think they were united against Mac, so then yeah, so

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: I would I would look at it more if if

1218
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: I thought that Mac Jones was showing signs of getting

1219
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: really sloppy, like his mechanics were all out of whack

1220
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: and he's doing you know, I would say, wow, you know,

1221
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: his quarterback coach tightening some of these things up. Pocket awareness, Yeah,

1222
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: he's loose with the ball, like I don't really think

1223
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: he's been. I don't think there was a huge difference

1224
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: in that regard to me from last year to this year.

1225
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm overlooking it, but to me,

1226
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: it was more about the play designs and the offense itself,

1227
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: and I and Judge deserves blame for that too. Yeah,

1228
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: but I think Patricia gets the Lions here because he

1229
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: called the plays and Bill gets you know, Bill set

1230
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. If it doesn't work,

1231
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: blame me, uh Dan writes in Bill O'Brien is the

1232
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: top candidate for OC as everyone knows. Say that he

1233
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: gets hired and we don't make a lot of moves

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01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: on offense in the offseason. Do you believe he and

1235
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: Mac can get more out of the current offense or

1236
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: our roster moves necessary to take this team to the

1237
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: next level. Even with an actual OC Yeah, you gotta,

1238
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean you gottat. I would say yes, and yes,

1239
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: I think he would get more out of the current.

1240
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: But you need I think it's kind of consensus they

1241
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: need that number one receiver. Would you go after DeAndre

1242
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins considering that there is a hint hint? I'm lukewarm

1243
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: on that idea. I'm kind of coming down on DeAndre

1244
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: Hopkins old. You know, I just he's a great player.

1245
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, But I don't know. I just

1246
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 1: but but I would say this situation, and I totally

1247
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: get that thought. My feeling right now is like I'm

1248
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: just looking at tackle, wide, receiver, cornerback, Like those are

1249
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: the positions I'm only really concerned about with this Patriots

1250
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: team right now. And of those, if you had to

1251
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: sign a thirty something, you know, thirty thirty one, thirty

1252
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: two year old free agent, which position would you choose?

1253
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, like, like that's the only thing that's appealing

1254
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: to Hopkins. I feel like you can still play at

1255
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: that level. I'd rather draft a tackle. I think they're

1256
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: pretty good at developing corners. I just look at this

1257
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: free agency class though, and I just it doesn't really

1258
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: seem all that exciting, doesn't really seem it just I

1259
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: think that's a good question. I think I would rather

1260
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: have a thirty one year old tackle than a thirty

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: one year old I don't even think it's necessarily that

1262
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm worried about his play like falling off a cliff

1263
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: this year or something like that. It's just how do

1264
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: you grow with a young quarterback and a thirty one

1265
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: year old receiver? Like, to me, the ideal scenario is

1266
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: that you pair Mac Jones with somebody like te Higgins

1267
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: who's twenty four, and you grow together, right, and you

1268
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: build together, and now all of a sudden, you have

1269
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback wide receiver tannin for the next five years

1270
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: instead of just talking about it for one year. And

1271
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: that's where I'm sort of coming off Hopkins a little bit,

1272
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: is just because it is at a two year window

1273
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: with Hopkins, Like how much are how long is he

1274
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: really going to be here for? But if you only

1275
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: maybe have a two year window with Mac, or at

1276
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: very least you want to see next year Mac with

1277
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: a direct route to an elite receiver, Like I'm totally

1278
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: with you on Higgins, Like I think that's like, especially

1279
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: if you believed in Mac long term and you're like,

1280
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: let's get him locked up for four or five years. Now,

1281
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: we'll get Mac on the second and they'll be together

1282
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: for a while. But I also just wonder of a

1283
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: certain this season, let's find out what Mac has. Let's

1284
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: let's actually give him a guy, so that there isn't like, well,

1285
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: he didn't really have a guy. Which also I saw

1286
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker had like a tweet like I am that guy.

1287
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: Like somebody was like, we just gotta get we gotta

1288
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: get Mac that guy. I mean, I do think you

1289
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: get a strong I just thought it was a funny, funny,

1290
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: little stung like I'm not gonna say no to DeAndre Hopkins.

1291
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: I won't get it wrong. Yeah, but I just think that,

1292
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: And I would also say that, you know, looking just

1293
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: at the free agency pool, you gotta look at the

1294
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: guys that are going to be free agents next year

1295
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: also because those guys are the ones that get traded.

1296
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's why I have T Higgins on the right.

1297
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: So like that's like what happened with AJ Brown or

1298
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: what happened with Tyreek Hill, like those guys are get

1299
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: traded in there the year before they're going to hit

1300
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: the open market. And I just look at all those situations,

1301
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, Aj Browns to Fond Diggs, like that was

1302
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: the perfect timing of our quarterback is as sending, and

1303
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: we want to pair him with somebody that is a

1304
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: number one bona fide stud wide receiver that's also going

1305
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: to be able to hit his prime or hit a

1306
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: good part of his career at the same time as

1307
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Otherwise you feel like you're you're shrinking your window.

1308
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: Like with Hopkins, I think it becomes a two year thing.

1309
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: What if Mac is only a two year thing? But

1310
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: you still would benefit from having like whoever the next

1311
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: quarterback is would benefit from having t Higgins right Dylan

1312
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: and Nashville. All I can picture when Fred questions what

1313
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Gerard actually does is a scene in office space where

1314
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: Tommikowski keeps telling the consultants that he has people skills

1315
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: looking forward to some offseason slot soap talk. He does,

1316
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: what would you say it is you do here? Uh?

1317
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: Dave writes in he says, Fred, you ignored my email

1318
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: last week. All Tamara, there are able and willing agents

1319
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: trying to get teams to hire their clients. There are

1320
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: lists out there. Talk to the agents about their HUT coaches.

1321
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Rooney rule. Okay, all right, Well

1322
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: that's why they report the interviews, so that they get

1323
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: their name, the agents get the names of the coaches

1324
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: out there. Then you get to know these guys that

1325
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: are candidates, even if they're not really a real candidate.

1326
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: How about the dude from the Cowboys missing his first

1327
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: four extra points last night? I can I have like

1328
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: a little minor nit to pick two with with regard

1329
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: to the coverage of these games, Like so he missed

1330
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: the first there was no drama in that game, Like

1331
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: that game was over. I don't know how you felt, like,

1332
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you like I didn't. I didn't

1333
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: even watch a second At one point I think they said,

1334
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: I think Joe Bucks said, or Aikman I think might

1335
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: have been Aikman said, you know, you know, anybody else

1336
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: playing quarterback bail of the team, and people would probably

1337
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: have tuned out. But you can't ye with him, you know.

1338
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: But I did like it was over. So they score

1339
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: a fifth touchdown and they kind of missed the extra point,

1340
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know how as ESPN, there's nothing else

1341
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: of any interest in this game. Right, it's a blowout,

1342
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: the game's over. Is he gonna miss five? I'm like,

1343
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: I want to see it, right, I mean it was

1344
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: like a car crash. You can't look away. And they didn't.

1345
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: They kind of missed it. They kind of missed the

1346
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: last extra point, the one he made. Yeah, speaking of coverage,

1347
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: al Michaels and Tony Dungey got panned horrible for their game. Yeah,

1348
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: and they didn't do it. They didn't really. It was lifeless.

1349
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: It was like Dungee is kind of lifeless. Yeah, al

1350
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: Michaels is a snore. What did they do? Because they

1351
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: turned the proper energy to come back? It was a

1352
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven to nothing come back, and you would have

1353
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: thought that it was I just didn't notice five. I

1354
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: really didn't notice until I went until I went on Twitter,

1355
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: I noticed, And I think it was the only person

1356
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: on the planet that didn't notice. I think on Beetle

1357
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: and Zoe yesterday, they were just replaying the like last

1358
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: segment of the like the last play of the game,

1359
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 1: and it was completely like you'd have no idea that

1360
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: they that they Oh and there's a flag though that

1361
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: maybe all right, it looks like it's like it just

1362
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: completely fizzled out at the end. Now they like, Wow,

1363
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: what a comeback or anything like that. It's time for

1364
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: album Michaels to hang it out. I think so Legend,

1365
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: just like Brady Legend, hall of famer in his in

1366
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: his profession, he's seventy eight years old, like at some

1367
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: point like you're bringing the energy at eighty years old

1368
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: is just And now I guess the de facto best

1369
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: analysts in the business is Greg Olsen. Oh, I thought

1370
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: it was pretty good. He's all right. I don't know

1371
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: about best in the business. That's what I'm saying because

1372
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't pay attention enough to what these guys say.

1373
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: But I I, did you know that that was the

1374
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: Giants game? Right? Giants Vikings? He did? Yeah? I thought he.

1375
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: I thought he's good. I thought he was pretty good.

1376
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: That was the only game I didn't catch. I think

1377
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: the the my favorite boosts are the ones where I

1378
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: think a couple of weeks ago they had Riddick and

1379
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: Orlovsky and the boosts. So then you get the quarterback

1380
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: perspective and then you get the dB perspective. Too, and

1381
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: they kind of go back and forth about the chess

1382
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: matches and the cat and mouse games and stuff like that.

1383
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: I love those types of boots because you get you

1384
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: really get in the head of like, Okay, well the

1385
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: safeties are reading this and the quarterbacks reading that, and

1386
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: get to understand what's going on Alex and Raleigh. With

1387
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots announcing they're looking for noc in the talks

1388
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: of moving to a Shanahan type offense, do you think

1389
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: it would be smart to also find an old line coach? Yeah?

1390
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Are their talks about moving to a Shanahan offense, Well,

1391
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: there was last year. It was last year. I don't

1392
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. I don't know who they're

1393
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna hire, but they need an offensive line coach either way. Yeah,

1394
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, unless Patricia's going to stay the offensive line coach.

1395
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's going to happen, but know

1396
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: they need they need one, Thank them, send them on.

1397
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: Does anyone think that they're going to get a new

1398
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: special teams coach or though I do, I do think

1399
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: Joe Judge backed into that position. I mean, I think

1400
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: that was some of the speculative speculation with with Zoe.

1401
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think that would be I just doesn't

1402
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: it fine if you're a cam Accord, what what are

1403
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: you doing? Right? I I understand that maybe he doesn't

1404
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: have a ton of options at the end of the day,

1405
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: but is he a full special teams guy throw them

1406
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: through forever? Yeah? And I just they also have Joe

1407
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: Houston on staff, who's the assistant special teams coach. So

1408
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: then cam Accord becomes the assistant and Joe Houston becomes

1409
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: the assistant to the assistant. Like everybody gets the motive, right,

1410
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I agree that that's a problem area

1411
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: of the team, but I just don't know how you

1412
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: move Judge back to Special Teams and then cam Accord

1413
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: still in the building, Like, I don't know how that

1414
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: how could he be the assistant? I agree with you

1415
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: on that, it's like remedial because that's what Zoe had. Yeah,

1416
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Judge special Teams and then Cam Accord

1417
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: assistant Special Teams Like he's he's going to take a demotion.

1418
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you do it because what other

1419
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: options do you have. I mean, no one's hireing him.

1420
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: Sean writes in I'm mostly joking but I wonder what

1421
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: you guys think about TB twelve coming back. Yeah yeah,

1422
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: over my dead body yet think I mean, I mean,

1423
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: I would take him, but I don't think that. I

1424
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: don't think there's any player like a one day retirement ceremony.

1425
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: He signed that. I'm talking about playing. He signed that

1426
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: football for Logan Ryan. He said that's the last pass

1427
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: as a Patriot. I just from a football perspective, I

1428
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: don't get it from either party. This team is not

1429
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: a forty six year old Tom Brady away from winning

1430
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and for the Patriots, then you're just

1431
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: right back in the position that you were in twenty

1432
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: twenty when he decides to retire. So I just I

1433
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: don't understand it from either perspective why that would make

1434
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: any sense? Yemi in Texas, this is mostly for evidence.

1435
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: Sounds like why are you guys reluctant to give Brock credit?

1436
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: He's what mac Jones was sold as, unlike mac Purdy

1437
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: was a four year starter in college and played with

1438
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: inferior talent every week. I think that has helped him

1439
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: adjust to the NFL, where he has a better team

1440
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: around him. Signed missus Purdy, I just what am I

1441
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: supposed to say to that. They're like, Okay, if we

1442
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: put take how many quarterbacks in the league in that

1443
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: offense do you will against that defense on Sunday on Saturday.

1444
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: That's one I definitely would have pushed back on before

1445
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Purdy because every other quarterback who's played for Shanahan other

1446
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: than Jimmy loses. This guy's six and oh or whatever

1447
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: it is. But wins and loss is not even about

1448
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: that though, right, Like it's the kind of think it

1449
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: is a little bit about that. I don't know that's

1450
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a wins his losses as a quarterback stack guy.

1451
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 1: But you have the like Jimmy Garoppolo was third in

1452
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: the league this year in EPA when he was in there,

1453
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: they had a top five offense with Jimmy two, so

1454
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: that I don't really think it matters who plays quarterback

1455
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: for him. I think Trey could play quarterback for him

1456
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: next week and they put up thirty points. But when

1457
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: he did play quarterback, they didn't do that. That's That's

1458
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is he was They've had Jimmy, Jimmy.

1459
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy's record with San Francisco was ridiculous, right, They've been

1460
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: a machine, regardless of if it's Purty or if it's

1461
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy Right. But but there's been a lot of other

1462
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: guys that it hasn't been a machine, like the Nick

1463
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: Mullins in the CJ. Bethards of the world Y CJ.

1464
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: Bethard had a better track record coming out of college

1465
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: than Brock Purdy did. Did he also have Christian McCaffrey

1466
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He didn't have McCaffrey, but he had

1467
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: those other guys. Sure, I just I think that this

1468
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: Niners run would have been exactly the same with any

1469
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not ready to

1470
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: say that. Did you know that Monte Assin Ford is

1471
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: the new GM of the Cardinals? Yes, Actually somebody said

1472
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: it already today in this show. I think Evan mentioned

1473
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: it missed. Yeah, he uh. We talked about Billy O'Brien

1474
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: has a Really you said that, didn't you, Evan? Was

1475
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: that off air? Yeah, owing to Arizona. Yeah, Billy O'Brien has,

1476
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit of a relationship with Austin Ford,

1477
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: as does Brian Flores. So both of those guys I

1478
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: think could be in the mix. Yeah, he's beyond the

1479
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: staff in some capacity and nice things to say Crafts

1480
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: and and Belichick a couple quotes from him. So yeah, uh,

1481
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: Ben writes in from Brooklyn. Two things that flew under

1482
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: the radar and special teams were the Cody Davis injury

1483
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: in the Justin Bethel departure from Miami. Any chance they

1484
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: resigned the ladder Justin Bethel? I hope not. I felt

1485
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: like schooler. Didn't they get rid of Bethel after a

1486
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: FELI Schooler was kind of coming home? Yeah, Cody Davis.

1487
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: One's interesting, do you want to throw another one in?

1488
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: Their schooler didn't play in the last game. They have

1489
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: to kickoff returns. What is that cliche about cause, cause

1490
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: and effect? No, Like, I don't know, I'll figure it

1491
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: outation correlation, one of those those between that between that

1492
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: punter and kickoff deficiencies. Perhaps Bill was onto something with

1493
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: those big splash signings in prior years of special teamers.

1494
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: On the first day of free agency. Yeah, I mean

1495
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: it's again that Deis goes back to like things that

1496
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: you came to believe about the Patriots, and you know

1497
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: that's and that's like and it also goes to the

1498
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: point I said earlier of like offensive tackle, wide receiver, cornerback,

1499
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: like those are the positions to think about and focus on.

1500
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: We don't need a fourth rounder who might play special

1501
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: teams like you know, like I know they did bad

1502
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: last year. I'm fine to just let them develop and

1503
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: see what happens. Bring Joe Judge back and let it

1504
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: take care of itself. Jack and Anaba writes in is

1505
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: Mac Jones a championship caliber quarterback? If he is, then

1506
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots should proceed to build a championship roster around him.

1507
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: If he isn't, then the Patriots highest priorities should be

1508
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: to acquire a quarterback who has the potential to become

1509
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: a championship caliber quarterback. The Patriots don't know whether Mac

1510
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: is a championship caliber quarterback. How are they going to

1511
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: find out? What do you think? I think they need

1512
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: to build the roster regardless, Like I think it was

1513
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: to Paul's point about te Higgins, whether it's macer it's

1514
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: it's Lamar Jackson, Like you need the players around the

1515
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: quarterback either way, So I don't think it's it's kind

1516
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: of a chicken or the egg thing, like right, it

1517
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter which one. Well an he won a

1518
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: national championship. Does that count? Does he does that make

1519
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: him a championship quarterback? If you want a championship, get

1520
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: Josh Hypele next No l at Wisconsin. Two things, First,

1521
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: I think that's since it's a week wide receiver class,

1522
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: you can book a wide receiver. And two, do you

1523
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: have any names of fourth round tackles? I want to

1524
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: know who we're taking at fourteen. I disagree with the

1525
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: week wide receiver comment. I don't think I think he's

1526
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: being funny, but anyway, but I disagree. Anyways, it's not

1527
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: it's not top heavy like we've seen in years pass

1528
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: right and years passed, when you have Waddle and all

1529
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: the you know, Davante Smith and Ceedee Lamb and like

1530
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: every wide receiver under the sign of those are off

1531
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: from different classes. But my point is is that he

1532
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: had all these wide receivers, but they had This is

1533
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: a really strong depth wide receiver class that I would

1534
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: say more resembles maybe like twenty nineteen when you had

1535
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: I think Hollywood Brown was the highest wide receiver pick

1536
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 1: in that draft, and like the twenties, and the Patriots

1537
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: obviously took to kill Harry at thirty two. But then

1538
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: you also had A J. Brown and Deebo Samuel and

1539
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and Hunter Renfro and all these guys go

1540
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: after that, So DK metcalf. So I think that that's

1541
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: where the sweet spot for this wide receiver classes is,

1542
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: like Day two, like the second and third round wide receivers.

1543
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna there's gonna be some players in

1544
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: that top one hundred for sure. And final prediction, Dradmeo

1545
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 1: is the next head coach of the n EP. The

1546
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: report says a long term deal, and I wouldn't exactly

1547
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: expect Bill at seventy one to be the long term coach.

1548
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: Just wonder how much of a did they actually talk

1549
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: about these things. I mean, it's just like, you know,

1550
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: with something dangled for him, you know, as Bill on

1551
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: board with that, it's this, you know, Craft's kind of

1552
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: that's putting something in a place's point My thing. I

1553
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: want to ask the panel, like forgetting about what you

1554
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: think of Gerard Mayo as a coach. Do you think

1555
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: it's a good thing to have the coach and waiting

1556
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: like are you okay with that? Well, what's the precedent?

1557
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: Have we ever seen that before? Not? I'm not talking

1558
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: about here, but anywhere, like where the coach and waiting

1559
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: was on the team. Well, it's happened. I was gonna

1560
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: say it's happened, but it never really comes to fruition,

1561
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: right right. Um. For a different reason, I'm trying to

1562
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: separate my personal feelings from this, because obviously, if Gerard

1563
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: Mayo was the head coach here, it will be wonderful.

1564
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: It'd be great for us because we like him and

1565
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: we have good relationships with him, and it would be

1566
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: it would be good for us. How do you know,

1567
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: maybe he'd be worse than Bill when it comes to access. No,

1568
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm serious. When it comes to access, he might, but

1569
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: not when it comes to his interactions. Oh. The reason

1570
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't like it has nothing to do with Bill.

1571
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it because how do we know Girard

1572
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: Mayo is the best guy for the job. Well that

1573
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: that That's basically what my question is. Like, I'm opening

1574
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: it to when we get two years down the line

1575
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: and let's say Bill says I'm done, I'm retiring, and

1576
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: they say, oh, we're going to hand the keys off

1577
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: to Girard Mayo. He's the coach in waiting. But let's

1578
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: say somebody else is available that is a better candidate

1579
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: than I don't know if I'm going to be too

1580
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: thrilled that they're just handing it to Gerard Mayo. It's

1581
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: the example that I used this year of you know,

1582
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people would really just scoff at you

1583
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: if you even mentioned the mere possibility that Robert sat

1584
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: down with Bill Belichick and said we're going to go

1585
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: in a different direction Bill after this season. How can

1586
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: you do that well, because maybe there's a guy available

1587
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't know it was going to be available,

1588
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Now I'm not telling you I'd rather have

1589
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: Sean Payton than Bill. I wouldn't, but someone might rationally

1590
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: think that Sean Payton would be a better option. Maybe

1591
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: they're looking at the final eight coaches that are left

1592
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now, seeing that seven of them

1593
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: have an offensive background. In Bill's more of a defensive background,

1594
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: so is Gerrod Mayo. Maybe you'd rather have John Payton

1595
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: as an offensive guy to sort of keep up with

1596
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: the Joneses. I don't think that's a like irrational thought. No,

1597
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: Juan and Mexico has a would you rather game? He says,

1598
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: this is my first game if they suck, I apologize.

1599
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: Um love games. Would you rather Mac with Hopkins and

1600
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien or Lamar Jackson with Matt Patricia? Well, I

1601
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: know what's your first game. It's called conundrum. But let's

1602
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: make it an absolute impossibility for Bill O'Brien and DeAndre Hopkins.

1603
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: That can happen. Right, A lot of layers to this question. Yeah,

1604
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: I would rather have Lamar Jackson. I would. I know

1605
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: you guys wouldn't because no one likes who's gonna pay him,

1606
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: including Ravens Lamar Jackson. I like Lamar Jackson. I just

1607
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I could picture him here, just a

1608
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: very specific one. Why No, I'm not I'm not saying

1609
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: that the money, saying I would rather have him here

1610
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: than Mac Jones because of the money. You can't see

1611
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: him here, Um, I just for for many reasons. I

1612
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: just I couldn't see him here. Where's the current If

1613
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens don't resign him, where's he gonna go? So,

1614
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: so here's the Patriots, one of the favorites in the

1615
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: betting world. Yes, anybody rabbit rant about this and I'm

1616
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna save But like, has anybody ever actually seen if

1617
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: Vegas is ever right about any of this, because we

1618
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: all just assume, oh, Vegas knows something, and they put

1619
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: they put those odds. But for Lamar Jackson, this is

1620
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: the let me like map this out for people that

1621
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: want Lamar Jackson, because I love Lamar Jackson. I think

1622
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: he's an awesome quarterback, awesome player. The Ravens are gonna

1623
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: tag him. Okay, they're not gonna lose him for nothing,

1624
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: so they're gonna tag and trade him. So now you're

1625
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna tag him. You're probably gonna give up at least

1626
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Lamar Jackson. Then you're gonna

1627
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: pay Lamar Jackson forty five million dollars a year, and

1628
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: then you're gonna overhaul your entire offensive system to fit

1629
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson exactly like these are. It's just a lot.

1630
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot. Now, if you had of his system

1631
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: in place that already is pointed in that direction as

1632
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: it is, then it maybe it's not as much. But

1633
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: there's so few teams that have that scenario. Or if

1634
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: you're a team like the Jets, where it's you just

1635
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: gotta do it. So it makes sense for the Ravens

1636
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: to tag him because it's one year. You're gonna pay

1637
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: him what the tag now forty million or something like that,

1638
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: So you're gonna pay him forty millions. So it's worth

1639
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: that to just pay him to play for one year

1640
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: and you don't have the risk of a long term contry.

1641
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: He's not playing on the tag, but okay, so that's

1642
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: the second thing. Will he play? No, he won't play

1643
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: on the tag, And I don't blame him because for

1644
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: his with his playing style, this is the contract that

1645
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: he has to maximize his value and get that guaranteed money.

1646
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Because as we saw this year, the knee blows out,

1647
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: and so you'd rather sit out and not get paid

1648
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: than play. I think so he might be right. I

1649
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, he did it this year. I

1650
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: think it's pretty I think the evidence is starting to

1651
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: stack up that he probably could have played, yeah, in

1652
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the playoff game. Now, I think he made the right

1653
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: choice not playing. You know, I could envision like a

1654
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin situation happening with him. He goes out and

1655
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: plays a playoff game, and then he does further damage

1656
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: and his career is never the same. But I like

1657
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: your point Fred about like, if you're the Ravens. You

1658
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: can kind of afford to play a little bit of

1659
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: chicken with him because everything that Evan just mapped out,

1660
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as like you have this great

1661
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 1: I love Lamar Jackson. I am higher on Lamar Jackson

1662
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: than most people around here for sure. But that's really

1663
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: the only team that's kind of like done it for him,

1664
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: right So who else is going to give him two

1665
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million guaranteed right right and hired Gregor

1666
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Roman and build the offensive system that they need to build.

1667
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: I think Lamar's pride could be factor. What I would wonder,

1668
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: big factor, Like I wouldn't overhaul my system. I would

1669
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: I would roll that. Now it's big gamble, but I

1670
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: would roll the dice and see if he could play

1671
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: more traditionally like Deshaun Watson does. Yeah, it's not like

1672
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: he's coming out of college. He's a better passer now

1673
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: than he was, and he could still run. He could

1674
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: still make play. But I don't have to have like

1675
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins in the backfield and to

1676
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: just play smash mouth all day, you know, with a

1677
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: three hundred pound defensive lineman as my fullback. Well, that's

1678
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't have to have it that way. The bang,

1679
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: I think it was Jesse Bates on the Bengals was like, well,

1680
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna play We're not gonna play the wing tea

1681
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: this week. You know about the about the Ravens. But

1682
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: I think that your point about deshaun's interesting because if

1683
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's the higher and then Bill O'Brien runs the

1684
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson offense with Lamar Jackson he played, he did

1685
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: really well with Deshaun Watson as a young quarterback too.

1686
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I love Lamar Jackson too. He's

1687
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 1: one of my favorit players in the league. I just

1688
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: think that all of the optics of what you'd have

1689
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: to give up to get them, then what you would

1690
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: have to pay him, and then the overhaul that you

1691
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: would have to do to fit the system around him,

1692
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: and it's just a lot of steps that where things

1693
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: could easily go wrong. And if you're Lamar, you have

1694
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: to understand those things right, like, like what do you

1695
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: want if you're him, Like, because you're asking so much

1696
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: from a team, how many teams can do all those things?

1697
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: And on the other side of it, in year one,

1698
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: they're contenders. With Lamar Jackson, it seems like any team

1699
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: would probably have a year at least to two years

1700
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: of rejiggering. You know, Like Lamar, you're gonna go somewhere

1701
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna pay you a ton and they're gonna

1702
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: build around you, but you're probably gonna have to wait

1703
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years before really contending. It depends where

1704
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: it comes, like, and I don't know what the what

1705
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: the different options are, but there are teams that I

1706
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: think that need quarterbacks that could be pretty close. Like, again,

1707
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: this comes down to Evan and I think more of

1708
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson than you do. And that's no disrespecting, Like

1709
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: everybody has an opinion on different players. Yeah, Like just

1710
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: like if he goes to the Jets, No, that's if

1711
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: that's scary. If you absolutely, if you went to the Jets,

1712
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: it would work like they could be if if he

1713
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: if he goes to the Jets, that's a team that

1714
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: can contend right away, didn't Josh McDaniels love him coming

1715
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: out of the draft. Well that was so the other

1716
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: thing that you have to remember with Lamar Jackson is

1717
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have an agent and his his mom

1718
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: runs his life. So if you want Lamar Jackson, then

1719
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: you gotta get Mama Jackson. What are you gonna do

1720
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: for my baby? Oh no, that's exactly. She's a scary woman.

1721
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: From what I've heard, she's she's really His life is

1722
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: a movie like that. Someday there's like gonna be a

1723
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Lamar like a blind Side movie, but like with Lamar

1724
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Jackson and his mom because that, Michael, come on, you're

1725
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: that mom is. I've seen her in action, and she is.

1726
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: She's terrified. I fully believe that. I mean I still

1727
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: remember the draft and just how they kept cutting the

1728
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: camera back to him, like, oh see, he should have

1729
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: gone as a wide receiver. You should have gotten receivers

1730
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: still waiting around. I can't wait to see like the

1731
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: story with that. Your point is very valid, Fred with Baltimore,

1732
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: because they might be looking at us like we're the

1733
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: team that's built it for you, right right. But at

1734
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: the same time, and I heard this ridiculous criticism. I

1735
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: think it was Marcus Spears was talking about, you know,

1736
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: they they've let him down, the franchises let him down.

1737
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: They had Mark Andrews lined up at the X. You know,

1738
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: in the two minute drill down the step. Well, yeah,

1739
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Richard Bateman's hurt, Devin Duvernai's hurt. Like, I'm not telling

1740
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: you that that's like the equivalent of Stefan Diggs and

1741
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson because it's not. But those are competent NFL receivers.

1742
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: And when they were here in Week three, they threw

1743
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: the ball in an NFL style, not just a gimmick style.

1744
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: The touchdown catch that Duvernai had in the corner below

1745
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: us and in the ends, that was a great throw

1746
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: and catch. Like they didn't have those playmakers, you'd throwing

1747
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: the ball too. What's the guy? His name Crochet, James Crochet.

1748
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, like they didn't have those guys available,

1749
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: like they have that team and the first ten weeks

1750
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: of the season was a contender in the AFC. Yeah,

1751
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: I also don't get the mark. And it was at

1752
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: the X argument, like the Patriots has to do that

1753
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: with Gronk all the time. They would flex him out

1754
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: and let him go one on point being they didn't

1755
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: have anybody else that was the point. Well, they've been

1756
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: but I mean you completely under the rug that all

1757
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the guys that they've gotten are not available, right, now,

1758
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean people come after the Patriots, and rightfully so

1759
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: for drafting Hollywood Brown. H Bateman has been hurt. I

1760
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: think he's talented, but he's been hurt. Duvernet is an

1761
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: interesting player, but he's kind of like a gadgety receiver

1762
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: and not only traditional. Yeah, they've had a really tough

1763
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: miles and they both have their both that's that's that's

1764
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: really interesting. They're both tied Baltimore and the Patriots ideology

1765
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: is very similar, and they both struggle at the same position. Yeah.

1766
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it, and Baltimore can drafted

1767
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: every position, yes, except uh so Wan your first Uh

1768
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: would you rather it was pretty good? Oh? Wow? Sorry?

1769
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah no, uh second, would you rather Matt becomes Matt

1770
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Ryan level or Zappi becomes Kirk Cousins level? Those are

1771
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: two different levels. I know I'm gonna take the Matt

1772
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Ryan lewe Yeah, MVP quarterback that can't ever win it.

1773
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan's better than Kirk Cousins, but not

1774
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: by a ton. Yeah, I'm with Paul. I was going

1775
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: to say, okay, all right, I think Matt Ryan. You know,

1776
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: this is to you a point about the shanty An system.

1777
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan had one outlier year. I think

1778
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: otherwise he's been good. With all Patriots. I was giving

1779
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: you credit. Do I have to put it in writing? Yes,

1780
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: all Patriots games called by Al Michaels and Tony Dungee

1781
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: or all Patriots games called by Romo. See, it doesn't

1782
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: affect us. What happened to What game was that where

1783
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,799
Speaker 1: Romo was on it? And I was like, yeah, he's

1784
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: when his first couple of years, I was like, Wow,

1785
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: this guy's great. He's a breath of fresh air. Like

1786
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, like if somebody said, you know, stop

1787
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: telling people what's gonna happen before it happens. Don't do

1788
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: that anything. That was the only thing you brought to

1789
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: the table, and they don't do it hems and haws

1790
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: until it happens. And yeah, that's what I thought was

1791
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's one Jim. It's like, Tony, what do

1792
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: you think the Jim? It's like that he cashed in

1793
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: and he's the second. Yeah, you get worse at it.

1794
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: The best boys. The Bills took the field in the

1795
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: second half of their first drive the third quarter, and

1796
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: he goes, I just feel like the bills are gonna

1797
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: take off here and then it was a fumble sect

1798
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,879
Speaker 1: wrong And this one is for Mike, Paul and Tamara.

1799
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Five days a week for unfiltered shows, or five postgame

1800
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: shows after primetime game. Five days a week of regular shows. Yeah,

1801
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: the week, those nights, those night postgame shows. Grandpa Paul

1802
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: can't handle the post the post games. I have theme

1803
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: i'd see to me, like the postgame show, like you

1804
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: get all that? I love. I love the post the

1805
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: Postgame Show is my favorite show of the week. It is, Yeah,

1806
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: it is. I'm just saying specifically after the primetime games,

1807
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: especially this year's. Yeah, they're the smallest file. If we're

1808
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: going to do this, anybody have to get on the

1809
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: money after those primetime games and then fly across the plane.

1810
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: So like, if you're food, should we tell him what

1811
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: an overnight is. I don't think he understands. Now, try

1812
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: do when every newspaper guys are coming after you come

1813
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: home and having four hours of work to do it's

1814
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: a newspaperman and having having someone have to shuffle the

1815
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: photos down to photo map. So you should be thinking,

1816
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: my generation, it's now all dot com and you don't

1817
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: have to do that anymore. You're worth Internet. But yeah,

1818
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: you know nothing of late nights coming home. You get

1819
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: on the plane, you come home nights in early mornings,

1820
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: you go home. Yeah, and they come right back O

1821
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: my world problems from all of us right now. Then

1822
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: there was that there was a short time frame where

1823
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 1: Fred started the pre and post game shows and Andy

1824
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: and I stopped traveling, and but we still did the paper.

1825
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: So they would be in like Denver and we'd be

1826
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: done with the postgame show. You know, let's say like midnight.

1827
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Didn't have to wait for them to get home, like

1828
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: six am. You wouldn't let you go out. We had

1829
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: all the stuff done, we had all the pages written,

1830
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: you know, but we had to wait for the photos

1831
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: to get you know, like everything to be put in Silverman.

1832
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: It was brutal. We had. We had like two hours

1833
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: of editing to do when we got back. Yeah, I

1834
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: mean we actually proved it. I had like I would

1835
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: be bad. I had an air mattress in my office

1836
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: and I just blow it up. I'd sleep for a

1837
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: couple of hours wait for them to come in and

1838
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 1: be like, all right, the world's first air matchs. Wow,

1839
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: this guy's tough on me have airback actually made out

1840
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: of straw. It's like Jesus, wow, William, why do you

1841
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: chime in if you're younger than at least seems that way,

1842
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: does it does? It doesn't. It's a guy who hasn't

1843
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: walked straight in like twenty years. Okay, let's go. Let's go.

1844
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: There were going? Where were going? They a sport? Andy Hart? Okay,

1845
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you want to grab a bat. I'll you want to

1846
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: embarrass yourself like Andy did, I'll beat you like I

1847
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: beat him like a dollar bell bo hey woman, uh

1848
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: seth in Portland, the one in Oregon. I really appreciate

1849
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: what you do. Lived away from Boston for a long time,

1850
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: and you make it easy to know what's going on

1851
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: inside the fan base. Question slash a game. I think

1852
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: the three top offseason needs are impactful players at corner, receiver,

1853
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: in ot. There we go for this question. You have

1854
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: to get one in the first round, one in a

1855
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: later round, and one through free agency. Which position would

1856
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: you get where? And who would you target? The target?

1857
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: Heart Um, yeah, I guess I would I guess first round,

1858
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: first round. I'd go receiver. Yeah, I'd go corner. It's

1859
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 1: a tough corner class. I go tackle, just because I

1860
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: haven't looked in the class. I know some of the

1861
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 1: players available, and I think tackles were the best tack

1862
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I would go tackle. First round receiver, later round in

1863
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: free agent corner, free agent corner. So I had a

1864
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,919
Speaker 1: question for you. I know that you've always been the athletic,

1865
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: rangy linebacker. That's always been your but you've seemed to

1866
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: come off that a little bit. Yeah. No, and that's

1867
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought that up. Well, part of

1868
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: it is unfortunate resignation that they're probably gonna ride with

1869
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Bentley and they resigned by and so those guys are

1870
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: probably the guys in If they're gonna get somebody like that,

1871
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be like a rotational backup kind of guy.

1872
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: So that's why I've made piece of it. But I

1873
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: will say to add a fourth thing to the defense,

1874
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: I just I think you need somebody in the front seven.

1875
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: It could be a defensive tackle, it could be a

1876
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: defensive edge player. I just think you need another Chap'll

1877
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: just keep playing the second half of season. That would

1878
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: be nice, you know, hey, that would be great. Um,

1879
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: you want to get back to when you had three

1880
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: first round picks and you had wolf Fork you had,

1881
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able for the days. But

1882
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: I think just one more, you know, some kind of

1883
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: reinforcement continue building around those guys. If you bring in

1884
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: somebody that could unsee Dietrich wise, I'm not I'm not

1885
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: against it. I think that that could be upgraded. I

1886
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: think Bentley could be upgraded, even though I think that

1887
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: they're probably married to him at least for another year.

1888
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 1: So the reason why I had this best season, the

1889
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: reason why I brought it up, is because they have

1890
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: been extremely zone heavy over the last couple of years,

1891
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 1: and I think they want to get back to playing

1892
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: more man to man ideally, but chasing that Stefan Gilmore,

1893
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: Derell Reeves Corner to play more man to man. If

1894
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: they can't do that, then they gotta get more athletic

1895
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: at linebacker to play so much zone. And the one

1896
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: guy that I look at in free agency who I

1897
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: think is really really interesting is Tremaine Edmonds. I knew

1898
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: you were going to say that, and I was like,

1899
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,879
Speaker 1: because that's another one of those guys that was drafted

1900
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: too high for you to get your hands on him.

1901
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: And he is a freak. I mean, he's only like

1902
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: twenty four years old. Yeah, really really, Now, I think

1903
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo is going to find a way to keep them,

1904
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: because they just pay over the cap until they can

1905
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: find a way to keep everybody. But I think that's

1906
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: an interesting one that if he does come free, that's

1907
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: another and that ste find Gilmour style of just there's

1908
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: not that many guys like this that exists. I love it,

1909
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why I like looking at the

1910
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: class and maybe I'm a little bit gun shy from

1911
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It's like I'd rather just I don't

1912
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: need to sign eight guys that are he's okay. I'd like,

1913
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: I'd rather just give me one, give me one at

1914
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 1: that position and put a bunch of I was gonna say,

1915
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm with Duke. I would rather not have eight knockoffs.

1916
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 1: I need like name brand like I need ON. I

1917
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: don't need. I like it. I don't need some squad

1918
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: tie you know she wants. It's like I don't want

1919
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: the Amazon dupe thing. I want the real thing. Like,

1920
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 1: don't meet someone from a school I think, you know,

1921
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: you don't know if I have to google what school

1922
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: he came from? The Mox the tackle I think will

1923
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: end up being the first round pick. Yeah, But the

1924
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: way that the question was posed is like, what would

1925
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: you rather like? I'd rather do what Evan's talking about

1926
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: and getting established a tackle and pay for it. I

1927
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: just don't think they will. Yeah, I don't think they'll

1928
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: give him ACCLINCHI or Orlando Brown top of the market tackle.

1929
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: I just like taking a tackle the first because it's

1930
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: more of a sure thing. Yeah. I don't know why

1931
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: you think that. I just need a lot to happen

1932
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: one day. Better not trade down, they better if anything,

1933
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: no one has time. I just think that when I

1934
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: look at when I look at this free agency class,

1935
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: it's not a great free agency class for the guys

1936
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: that are expected to hit the market. So I would

1937
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: rather instead of just overpaying somebody at a position to

1938
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: need like they did last time, or they overpaid Nelson

1939
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Agalore and Johnny Smith just because they needed a tight

1940
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: end and a wide receiver. You might linebacker might not

1941
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: be your biggest knee on the board right now, but

1942
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Jermaine Edmonds can flat out play, and so that's a

1943
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: guy that comes in and just makes you a better

1944
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: football team. And instead of handing a bag to somebody

1945
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 1: that's not really that good, Like, you know, we handed

1946
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 1: a bag to a Pro Bowl player and I think

1947
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: with him too. He's big. It's not it's not a

1948
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: total departure from the body. Yeah, the way that pladed

1949
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: he made against Miami and the flat that that play

1950
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: in coverage, Like they don't have a single book guy

1951
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: on the roster that can make that play. Oh, by

1952
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: the way, how mad would you have been if Kyle

1953
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: van Noy made that interception that was right in his head?

1954
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: He had a couple of those. He's really good at timing.

1955
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: The one in the last drive. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1956
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: He posted on Twitter like a screenshot a note screenshot,

1957
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: like basically apologizing to Chargers fans that they blew a

1958
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven and nothing lead. It's like he never would

1959
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,520
Speaker 1: have done that there. Uh, John and Melbourne in Australia.

1960
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: I know I'm late on this one as I'm catching

1961
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: up on last week's AT episode, but I was keen

1962
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: to check out Paul's assertion that Kendrick Bourne would be

1963
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: up there for penalties per snap. I could find penalty numbers,

1964
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: but not per snap, only by positions, So amongst all

1965
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: receivers in the league. He's ranked thirty seventh two with

1966
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: two although there was one to call he had more

1967
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: than two penalties. Please, that's what he said. That's not

1968
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: that's whatever that website was is wrong. You're texting Kendrick.

1969
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: I guess my hindsight is off because I was with

1970
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Paul feeling that he'd be up there. But Myers has

1971
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: something more and it's nothing on Metcalf and Hollands, who

1972
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: leads a position with seven each. Yeah, well Bourne played

1973
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 1: probably how mean how many snaps did Bourne played in

1974
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 1: comparison to That's the thing per snap? You know we

1975
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: could have drafted DK Metcalf. Yeah, we'll forget that. I've

1976
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: heard that. Yes, and if you did, he wouldn't be

1977
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: this player. No, if you if you draft, if you

1978
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: draft metcalf o. But uh, he had four penalties, Paul,

1979
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew, I knew it wasn't two. If

1980
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: you drafted Metcalf over Kenel Harry, then you're an idiot.

1981
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Quote Michael Lombardi Kenel Harry, that's a complete receiver. That's

1982
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: what That's what I heard. Do you think he gets signed?

1983
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, so that was that was Michael Lombardi heading

1984
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: into that draft. So the rest of John's email, I

1985
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: don't know how accurate it is, but he says, um,

1986
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: let's see if you're interested. Brown led the team with

1987
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: nine penalties to decline and winds are all wrong, and

1988
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: when followed with eight one decline, these are all wrong.

1989
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're all wrong. Y. So I don't know

1990
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: why funlies for no reason. And he also says we

1991
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: had more penalties in twenty twelve, fourteen, fifteen and eighteen.

1992
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know if any of

1993
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: that information. Trent Brown was called for thirteen penalties, wow,

1994
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: which led all offensive lineman. Was time for the lead

1995
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: of all probably could have had twenty all accepted, or

1996
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: some of those wins would have beaten him had he

1997
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: not gotten hurt. How many did to win end up

1998
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: with in half a season? He might be right closer

1999
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: with win just because he didn't play enough to rack

2000
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: him up. I'll look all right, let's see Shane and

2001
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: Ireland writes in first time emailer, having listened to Evan

2002
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: discuss how the Patriots finally went back to the style

2003
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: at work last season. Did the coaching staff put Mac

2004
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: in a position to fail in the Bills game. All

2005
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: year long, the calls have been conservative and regularly taking

2006
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 1: the game out of Max's hands. Then when the seasons

2007
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: on the line, they tell him to throw. Surely this

2008
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: was always going to end up in some mistakes through

2009
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: the lack of practice and game situations, not just Mac,

2010
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: but all the skill positions being unfamiliar with the game

2011
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: plan after a season of playing another way, did you

2012
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: guys see that? So the first three games they did

2013
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: exactly what they did. Their gameplay coming into the season

2014
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: was to let Mac cook. They wanted to spread the

2015
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: field and let him bombs away. And I think some

2016
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: people are gonna take this and say, oh, well, Evan,

2017
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: you're you say everything positive about Mac, but Mac ain't

2018
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: ready for that. He's not. Five picks later they said,

2019
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: we can't do that right, So they do need to

2020
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: put Mac back into I wouldn't necessarily call a conservative

2021
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 1: just a more manufactured offense where scheme is doing a

2022
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: lot of the heavy lifting. They're getting guys open with

2023
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: play action and motion like the Niners do, and that

2024
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: I think is the offense that he would succeed in.

2025
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: They tried to play the offense this year like they

2026
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: were the Cincinnati Bengals. We're gonna line up across from you.

2027
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna put the quarterback in the gun. We're gonna

2028
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: run Jamar Chase over here. I'm gonna run Te Higgins

2029
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: over there, and you can't stop us. If you watched

2030
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense, that's all they do. They just line

2031
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 1: up and they beat you one on one across the

2032
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: board because they got better players than you. The Patriots

2033
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: don't have better players than anybody. So to do that,

2034
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 1: you look at presses. You lead to turnovers. Tight window

2035
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: throws lead to turnovers. Bombs into tight coverage lead to turnovers.

2036
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: And that's how you got the offense that you got

2037
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: this year. All right, Ian writes in he's in Virginia

2038
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and the Patriots lost to the Bills. There were two

2039
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: kick off for turns for touchdowns. It reminded me of

2040
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: the Seinfeld episode when the sick little Boy asked Cramer

2041
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: for Paul O'Neill to hit two home runs in a game.

2042
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,839
Speaker 1: Hamlin was the sick little boy and Hines was O'Neill.

2043
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 1: There were two. I didn't remember that. That's this year's

2044
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: They didn't toun you know what I'm realizing Evan doesn't

2045
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: do snark as well as I'll teach you. I'll teach you.

2046
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 1: I forgot about the um. David writes in two you

2047
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: know what else? I heard? I don't know if this

2048
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: is accurate, but there were only six returned for touchdowns

2049
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: in the whole league. That's three of them were against

2050
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I heard that. That's right. I might want

2051
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: to check that after Jake Bailey went on injured reserve.

2052
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: By the way, it wasn't a problem until then. Are

2053
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 1: we in the market for two kickers? A punter and

2054
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 1: a kicker? What that fifth round they're gonna draft one?

2055
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that if they're gonna be a

2056
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: punter or a kicker. But they do have a lot

2057
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: of picks in this draft too. They got screwed on

2058
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 1: the JC Jackson and pick because he got hurt. Yeah,

2059
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be the top third round com pick.

2060
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: And now it's a fourth round pick. That's not official, right,

2061
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that's like now it's projections space there. What's the guys quartier?

2062
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 1: He does a good job, that is it? Quote? Yeah,

2063
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: he's he's pretty good. Give him credit. He's like, you

2064
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 1: know how Doc chows like ninety nine percent of the time,

2065
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: He's right. That's guy. That guy gets the comp picks perfect. Yeah. Uh,

2066
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,839
Speaker 1: let's see. David says if Devin mccordy would decide he retires,

2067
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: or anyone on the current roster prime to take his spot,

2068
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Jaylen Mills. Someone threw that in SPFW, I think, yeah,

2069
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: I like the j I don't like the Joneses. What

2070
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: about Douga Dougger. I think that's really limiting his ceiling

2071
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: as a player, because now you're just having him play

2072
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: post safety center field. I think he could do it,

2073
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: but I agree with Evan. I like him near the

2074
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage too much to take that element away

2075
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: from him. Yeah. The thing about mccordy is you're losing

2076
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: two things. You're losing the on field in his position,

2077
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: but then the leadership, you know, so you have to

2078
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,839
Speaker 1: make up for a couple of things there. The leadership

2079
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: thing is interesting. I don't know who stands out to

2080
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: me necessarily out of this locker. I think we've talked

2081
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: about this last week about leaders. Adrian Phillips to be

2082
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: that leader. He's a quiet guy, though he's not I

2083
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: think he can be, but he also knows when to

2084
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: turn it on, Like I feel like when we've talked

2085
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 1: to him, even talked to him even after really tough games,

2086
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: like he has really great composure and like you know,

2087
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: does a great job where it's like some guys you like, no,

2088
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: don't go near them after a game. He's great. I

2089
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: do think though, there's a lot of guys in that mold,

2090
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of fiery, serious football like Bentley.

2091
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I think Bentley had put in that category of just

2092
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, those guys who really take it like Judon's.

2093
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: He's personable and talks, but he doesn't seem like that

2094
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: kind of leader, you know, Like I just I think

2095
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: you need those kind of guys like you know, that

2096
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 1: are serious and I don't know who other than Bentley

2097
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: though Dugger maybe. But he's quiet too. A lot of

2098
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: quiet guys. M patriots are the quiet, the quiet the

2099
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: quiet times, watch out for the quiet ones. Joey writes

2100
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 1: in from San Antonio, what do you guys think about

2101
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: trying to acquire te Higgins and Adam Dalen for twenty

2102
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: twenty three? Granted Adam is thirty two years old, but

2103
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: feel both players can help the offense. I would take

2104
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 1: t Higgins in a blank, I'm done. I'm done with him. Yeah,

2105
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: he's mean to Bill and I didn't like that. I

2106
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: thought they love each other. I'd either signed Jacoby resigned

2107
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: Jakobe then, and I just feel like that should happen

2108
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: regardless personally. I think this goes back to Evans point,

2109
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: which I was very much on board with last year too,

2110
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: when they signed two years ago, when they signed the

2111
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 1: free agents and they were all guys coming off their

2112
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 1: first contract in their twenties, Like I'm fine with those

2113
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of free asians signings. Like I just feel like

2114
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: every year now you have to think weapon day one

2115
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 1: or two, like you just have to continue, whether it's

2116
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: a receiver, a tight end, or running back. Like every

2117
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: boy at the end of day when every job. Do

2118
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: not say that. I was just saying that someone I

2119
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 1: was like a better nut running back. But either way,

2120
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: like this is gonna have some good battles forever, and

2121
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: when we do our draft podcast, we're gonna get it

2122
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: running now. I guess though, to specify, when I say

2123
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: running back, I mean more like James White receiving back,

2124
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, like those third down kind of guys. And

2125
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry to give from Alabama first round. I

2126
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 1: just think you get to the end of Day two

2127
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 1: in every draft, you should have one of those guys

2128
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: in the pipeline. And that's you know, look at the

2129
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I know that they filled out what

2130
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: they had, but I mean they drafted, they drafted debot.

2131
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, like, you just have to keep these guys

2132
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: in the pipeline. And it can't be every free agent

2133
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 1: cycle we're gonna go get a thirty two year old Adam.

2134
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 1: That's what makes it hard. Like you say that in

2135
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they went out and they splurged in that

2136
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: free agent class and it was all guys coming up. Well,

2137
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: the reason most of those guys are available is they're

2138
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: not quite at that level because most guys that are

2139
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: ending their first contract that are super talented get retained. Yeah,

2140
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 1: or you gotta give up the more you gotta give

2141
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: up a first round pick, like the receiver. The receiver

2142
01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 1: thing with I mean just look at all of them.

2143
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Just last year it was a j Brown, it was

2144
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. Terry McLaurin ended up resigning it. As Evan

2145
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: likes to say, got the bag from Washington right, Debo

2146
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: got the bag from San Francisco. Teams don't just let

2147
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 1: that guy walk for nothing, you know. But you know,

2148
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: most teams don't think the comp pick is worth a

2149
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 1: third round con talent that they lose, you know. So

2150
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: if you want it, like that's what it'll take. I

2151
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 1: think it'll take a first round pick to get to Higgins.

2152
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: I just look at the Higgins along with really liking

2153
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the player. Cincinnati does not have deep pockets. And they

2154
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 1: have to pay Joe Burrow fifty million, They're gonna have

2155
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 1: to pay Jabar Chase thirty million, and so at some

2156
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: point somebody has to be the odd man out in

2157
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that they're not going to be able to afford all.

2158
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 1: It's not about the cap, it's about real money coming

2159
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: into the organization. They have a lot on defense too.

2160
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: I talked to Jeff Hobson the day that we played

2161
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: with Christmas Eve the Bengals, and he was talking about

2162
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: like the Jesse Bates, Logan Wilson, a couple other guys,

2163
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have decisions, Jay Reader. They can't keep

2164
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: all those guys. And it's not, like Evan said, it's

2165
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: not a cap thing. How is Tyler Boyd. He he's

2166
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: at there in age now, yeah, he's a little longer

2167
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 1: than the tooth. Jesse Bates is an interesting one too, though.

2168
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: If Devin mcquarny retires and he ends up hitting free agency,

2169
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: that's another guy that he played on the franchise. If

2170
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken this, yeah, right, that was he was

2171
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: one of the few. I mean, looking at those free

2172
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: agency look at the tackles. I mean you mentioned McGlinchey

2173
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:27,560
Speaker 1: and Brown. I mean there are some guys that you

2174
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: look at, at least on paper. They're a name and

2175
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna cost a lot, but at least you can

2176
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: see he was the other one receiver. I don't know,

2177
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: there's nobody in receiver. Then I'm like, oh, we got

2178
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: a trade guy, all right, So a three year rebuild

2179
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Tyler in New York City. Are there archives somewhere of

2180
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: old PU or PFW and Progress episodes, but I hope not.

2181
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to listen to some old episodes during the offseason,

2182
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: mostly to relive old moments here reactions to things we've

2183
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: seen play out later could be really fun. Lucky for you.

2184
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Back and open, Matt, Do we know, I know, we

2185
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: you know had him at one time. Well, I think

2186
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: that's a great Oh yeah, that was a great idea.

2187
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 1: And then we had then we had anything I said.

2188
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 1: And then I think we had the great flood of

2189
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: twenty and twelve or one of those years, right when

2190
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 1: the whole system got fried. Yeah oh no, yeah, oh no,

2191
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden down from the ceiling hoey this weekend,

2192
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: I guess pipe broke and we lost a lot of

2193
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: gear and a bunch of stuff. I didn't have the

2194
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: right producer. Oh that would have been in there with

2195
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:39,879
Speaker 1: a wow marine trains all. Yeah, that's what's the suction

2196
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: pump things, the penis sump pump you know what I mean.

2197
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. That was too uh

2198
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, on the tip of your tongue. What's going on?

2199
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: I have been talking about something mysterious pump that he

2200
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: and I was When I was a kid. My house

2201
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: I grew up in the basement would flood a lot. Yeah,

2202
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: it had some pumps. Yeah yeah, my dad had it

2203
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 1: all rigged and everything. I got the irrigation system where

2204
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: sump do you know? Oh yeah, you gotta have that

2205
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: on the cape. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A

2206
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of ground water. Did you guys get for snow? Nothing? Really,

2207
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's snowed, but nothing stuck. I got a

2208
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: couple of inches yeah, up in Peabody. Yeah, the Hills

2209
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: of Peabody save that one mapped all right? Me with that,

2210
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we're gonna call it at that.

2211
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get you. No, you have no like thoughts

2212
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: at all, and I'm stunned. You usually have like a

2213
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 1: lot of different random things that stuck out for playoff games.

2214
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: We talked about it. All you said was I was

2215
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 1: happy for Trevor Lawrence, when I was like, your grand observation,

2216
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: because you guy game back, what do you think of

2217
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: the giants predictable upset of the Vikings, which just seemed

2218
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: like every right about the Vikings, everybody was like, Nope, nope,

2219
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna. I mean I found myself nodding

2220
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: off a lot and the chair on that one. That game.

2221
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: It was the best game a game I know. But

2222
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: I woke up and a lot of had happened. I'm like, oh,

2223
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: the ridiculous passing rough in the pass that they called

2224
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: on Dexter Lawrence at the end of that game. That

2225
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: fourth down, though, that was terrible Kirk kirk Cousins. If

2226
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't Cousins in a nutshell? Okay, take the check.

2227
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we did this. He checked it down,

2228
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: okay in the game. So whose fault was that? Kirk Cousins. Okay,

2229
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: they called a vertical concept and he checked it down.

2230
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: So why when when the Patriots check it down on

2231
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: third and fourteen is it Matt Patricia's fault? Well, it

2232
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: depends on the play design. It's always is always something

2233
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: they're running post wheel to the field and he checked

2234
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: it down. I mean, what do you want? I think

2235
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 1: it was all Kirk cousins fault. Unlike most people, I

2236
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: don't think Kirk Cousins is anything special. And I think

2237
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: mac joe on some day might aspire it to be

2238
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:08,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. All the like quarterback you know X quarterbacks

2239
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 1: and like Kurt warners of the world are like, what

2240
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,839
Speaker 1: would you like the quarterback to do? Okay, the safety

2241
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 1: goes over to Justin Jefferson side of the field and

2242
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 1: he's got two vertical routes with no safety over the

2243
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: top on the left. It down. I don't even care

2244
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: if there's nobody open. You can't throw it that far

2245
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 1: short of the sticks on fourth down with your season

2246
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 1: on the line. No, what are you expecting Hobbinson to

2247
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: break the tackle and go oh, which one right? Like

2248
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 1: he's he's like five full yards short of the sticks.

2249
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Classic Kirk Cousins like, you can't do that, you can't.

2250
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: I just it was amazing that as soon as the

2251
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 1: play happened, my wife goes, what does Matt Patricia call

2252
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: in the place? And I'm thinking to myself, it's amazing.

2253
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is getting killed on Twitter for checking it down,

2254
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: which I was like, I didn't do it on Twitter,

2255
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: but I was saying the same thing. But like when

2256
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: Jacob Myers catches a five yard crosser run third and ten,

2257
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: no one, no one blames mac Jones because sometimes as

2258
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 1: the play design, they like to run that little downfield

2259
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: screen thing on third and eleven and they think it's

2260
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna work. And it didn't work the times my fans

2261
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 1: coming in. I told him not to bother and be

2262
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 1: doing the show. It just really down. I thought that

2263
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: had a lock up. I thought it did too. I

2264
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: don't know, all right, now we'll call it a show now.

2265
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: Fred Fred didn't watch the games evidently, so that's why

2266
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: we can't talk about nap and that game was not

2267
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: boring at that was a great game. I think I

2268
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,839
Speaker 1: think I ate something and I just kind of fell asleep.

2269
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: Like Daniel Jones played really yeah, and san One Barkley.

2270
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: That was probably one of the best games I've seen

2271
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: since his injury, Like he was really really yeah, he

2272
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 1: had he had a good I didn't remember some of it. Yeah,

2273
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: but what were your dreamers like doing the snore away?

2274
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember something that I was kind of hard. Nobody

2275
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: was myself. Actually, the best part about the playoffs the

2276
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: social media afterwards, and I also sent myself did you

2277
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: see did you see on social media? The Giants posted

2278
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,839
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones with a Danny Dimes huge chain on, basically

2279
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: mimicking Kirk Cousins and his jewelry. It was amazing. I

2280
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, Danny Dimes, let's settle down. I think, Okay,

2281
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: he's not good, but I like what the social media

2282
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: team did. That's fair. But it's like, you know what,

2283
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: they call him Danny Dimes. Like since his rookie year.

2284
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why, because he had he hasn't dropped

2285
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: a diamond like three years until Sunday. Yeah, Brian Dables

2286
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: like holding him with kid gloves, and everybody already see

2287
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: that game that Daniel Jones played. You just unless they

2288
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: have the pedigree. There's like three guys that he thinks

2289
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: are any good. Everybody else it's all about the coach, correct,

2290
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: Dak Lamar, don't, Josh Allen, Okay, Wait Evans, Patrick Mahome Evan.

2291
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that Dak Prescott had a great game

2292
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 1: last night or do you think the Bucks defense was

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Speaker 1: just really bad? No, I thought Dak played well last night.

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Speaker 1: I think Danny dimes. So they have you know, expected

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Speaker 1: completion rate right, his expected completion rate against the Vikings

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Speaker 1: was seventy four percent. What did he complete? Seventy good

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Speaker 1: job right and met and so the Vikings? What did

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Speaker 1: he have for expected yards gained rushing? Because he had

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Speaker 1: seventy eight the Vikings deep. This year, the highest PF

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Speaker 1: grade for five different quarterbacks has come against the Vikings defense,

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Speaker 1: including mac Joe. Well, the whole game I was I

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Speaker 1: had like the two two sides in my head. As

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Speaker 1: you know, I can argue even with myself. I'm watching again,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, Danny Jones looks really good. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was this good, Danny. He's playing the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I saw mac Jones do this against the Vikings, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's all right. Now, well now it's

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Speaker 1: at least close. All right, Um, what's what's the deal.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back to Thursday at noon and then Cash

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Speaker 1: twenty two on Thursday at two after us. Okay, all right,

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