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Speaker 2: What's about that? Why did you y'all?
Speaker 3: Okay, love, y'all are trying to throw be shade talking
Speaker 3: about would I say to you?
Speaker 1: Jazz and the Dust said, you don't get I mean,
Speaker 1: it's part of being Carlos King and heavy is the
Speaker 1: head that rears the crown and God bless me the
Speaker 1: last name King for a reason.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the most views that
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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, hey, so hi guys, and I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see all the reports that's happened tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Thank you to all who have joined.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've been seeing some of y'all trying to read
Speaker 1: me about Mia.
Speaker 2: Carlos hype mea up.
Speaker 1: Carlos hyped me up thinking she was a star of
Speaker 1: the show, and she felt miserably.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Okay, I would like to say this, and I want
Speaker 1: to hear from Dustin and Jasin.
Speaker 2: I stand by Mia being a star.
Speaker 1: I stand by Mia blyon right, the name that I
Speaker 1: gave her, that she ran.
Speaker 2: With it and did wonderful things with that name.
Speaker 1: The thing is this, when you are somebody that is
Speaker 1: the most talked about on the show. And we'll get
Speaker 1: into the specifics, right right, I wanted to say overall,
Speaker 1: Mia is exactly what I said she was because the
Speaker 1: only person, and Jasmine and Dustin, y'all tell me if
Speaker 1: I got this wrong. The only person we're talking about
Speaker 1: when it comes to Potomac is Mia, whether it's good
Speaker 1: or bad, right, whether good or bad, Mia is the
Speaker 1: person we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So my accuracy in saying that.
Speaker 1: Listen, She's the one that people talk about again, whether
Speaker 1: it's good or bad.
Speaker 2: And we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: But without Mia nothing would be happening, just like I
Speaker 1: said the same thing about Tamra on oc like her
Speaker 1: love her. Without Tamra, nothing would be happening. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't excuse things that Tamra's done, and I'm not
Speaker 1: excusing things that.
Speaker 2: Mea has done. We're about to get into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to say that, but I want
Speaker 1: Jason to go first with this Potomac episode and Joe
Speaker 1: your overall thoughts. So first things first, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Mia Thor in this season?
Speaker 2: Jazz?
Speaker 4: I think to your point, she is the most talked about,
Speaker 4: but not in a good way. Like I leave every
Speaker 4: episode and I'm just like, what is she doing here? Like?
Speaker 5: What are we doing right now? I where do I start?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: Mia? Do be lying? Mia?
Speaker 4: I don't like what she's doing with Gordon and his
Speaker 4: mental illness.
Speaker 5: It's always like blown out of proportion.
Speaker 4: Is she's using it as a crutch for her very
Speaker 4: bad behavior right now, she's using it as a crutch
Speaker 4: for her just being confused and what she wants to do.
Speaker 4: I hate that her children are involved. I mean, these
Speaker 4: are sentiments that everyone has shared. What I noticed in
Speaker 4: this last episode. I'm so glad that Wendy clocked it
Speaker 4: and called it out because this is Giselle and Mia, Like, Giselle,
Speaker 4: what did you? I was waiting for you to really
Speaker 4: like give Mia some fever, and you softball that her
Speaker 4: talking about your children and not being them, not being perfect,
Speaker 4: and divulging information to us that we weren't even privy
Speaker 4: to as an audience, about them trying to seek boys
Speaker 4: in like she was trying to like out her daughters
Speaker 4: for being fast or something like that. You have more
Speaker 4: smoke and fever for Candace or for mea not Miya.
Speaker 4: What's the child's name, Wendy and Candace? Okay for making
Speaker 4: faces that you couldn't even confirm were being made about
Speaker 4: your child, But you softball Mia.
Speaker 5: I don't like it. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I get to this point all the time with Potomac.
Speaker 4: You know this, We've talked about this. We get to
Speaker 4: a point in the season where I'm just like, what
Speaker 4: am I doing here? I keep tuning in because something
Speaker 4: about it keeps bringing me back, but I don't like
Speaker 4: the way that it makes me feel after I stop
Speaker 4: watching it. This season has been a lot better than
Speaker 4: past seasons. I'll say that there's been a little bit
Speaker 4: of a lightness to it. But Mia, for me, again,
Speaker 4: she can go, she can go, And I don't care
Speaker 4: that you think with out heard, nothing would be happening
Speaker 4: in the season. We would be able to see other storylines,
Speaker 4: we would be able to see other things we will
Speaker 4: get to. I don't know Karen will give us something
Speaker 4: Mida can go for me.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this justin get saying what
Speaker 1: is it that Mia is doing to where you think
Speaker 1: she should go?
Speaker 2: Now listen.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things where I always say this
Speaker 1: to people. It's one thing that Okay, you had a
Speaker 1: bad season, right, or like I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like some of the things you're doing this season. But Jazz,
Speaker 1: explain to me in the audience, why do you think
Speaker 1: she should like.
Speaker 2: Leave the show or be removed from the show?
Speaker 1: Like, what is it about Mia where you are just
Speaker 1: going beyond just saying okay, girl, I don't mess with you.
Speaker 2: But no, you're saying like Mia has to go.
Speaker 4: I don't say she has to go. She can go.
Speaker 4: Like if she was if she was not coming back
Speaker 4: in this season, I would not ask for her to
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't think about it.
Speaker 4: I don't like what she's doing with Gordon's mental health,
Speaker 4: Like that's really rubbing me the wrong way. And I
Speaker 4: feel like that's being like downplayed a little bit in
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of the conversation around me. It feels, really,
Speaker 4: it feels really insincere. He's in mania, he's in mania.
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't fully articulate to you why she can go
Speaker 4: for me right, And I think maybe that's to your
Speaker 4: point why she's a great character for this show, because
Speaker 4: I just feel like she can go. But I can't
Speaker 4: really tell you why. I'm just not a fan of it.
Speaker 4: She has her moments where I think she brings some
Speaker 4: comedic timing, but it's not enough for me to like
Speaker 4: sit here and say I'm a fan that I need
Speaker 4: to that she's essential to the show.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like she's essential.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a way to exploit her story
Speaker 4: that's making her seem like an essential figure, but she
Speaker 4: is not an essential figure of the cast.
Speaker 5: And that's just how I feel.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's thank your thoughts.
Speaker 6: Nice house, no furniture on the inside. Why that's what
Speaker 6: I think when it comes to me, And now here's
Speaker 6: my thing. Yes, you can do something that is conversation worthy,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, But where is the fundamental
Speaker 6: value of it.
Speaker 7: Mia is not funny.
Speaker 6: She says things sometimes that you know are in beat
Speaker 6: or in step with whatever the story was at that time,
Speaker 6: that our humors. But she ain't funny just naturally. She
Speaker 6: don't be in her confessional saying shit to make you laugh.
Speaker 6: We don't believe nothing about anything that she says beyond
Speaker 6: her just lying. Like the peculiar odd nature of what's
Speaker 6: going on in her life is less than believable. I
Speaker 6: hate that blond hair on her with a passion. I
Speaker 6: think she looks so much better with dark hair. I
Speaker 6: do think she's a beautiful woman, but she dresses cheap,
Speaker 6: and sometimes that affects your perception of these people. When
Speaker 6: we're watching the fucking Housewives, right, we want to see
Speaker 6: something that is aspirational or whatever.
Speaker 7: Look at somebody like Wendy, Right, there's a lot to say.
Speaker 6: Let's dial back to what you said, Jasmine about Giselle
Speaker 6: and her reaction to Wendy speak negatively about her daughters
Speaker 6: versus the way that she has reacted to Wendy in
Speaker 6: the past. Jazelle still can't stand Wendy. They're obviously, and
Speaker 6: which we all knew. That's no surprise. They're obviously playing
Speaker 6: nice to get along for the sake of the show,
Speaker 6: and thank God for that, because that is what we need.
Speaker 7: From people who are capting on shows like this.
Speaker 6: There has to be a level of respect that you
Speaker 6: have and that motivates you to invest in the continuation
Speaker 6: of the show. Right, But Giselle can't stand Wendy. She
Speaker 6: never liked Wendy. She was only friendly with Wendy because
Speaker 6: Wendy sided with her against Monique in season five, sitting
Speaker 6: on that couch with that leather jacket on her shoulders, telling.
Speaker 7: Monique, I don't see the most in you.
Speaker 6: All of that is why Giselle liked Wendy at the time,
Speaker 6: the moment they had a disagreement, it was clear that
Speaker 6: she never gave her damn about Wendy in the first place.
Speaker 6: And this week we saw that Reary's head when Wendy
Speaker 6: as she should have, made no the difference in reaction
Speaker 6: and reception and Giselle cut her off at that table,
Speaker 6: that was no aid natural in the moment session, right Jasmine,
Speaker 6: she cut her off and said, you know, well, I
Speaker 6: see you and I were not speaking. We did it
Speaker 6: like it was very dismissive and very much in the
Speaker 6: tone of being reminded that I still don't fuck with
Speaker 6: you like that, You're just playing nice. Wendy has always
Speaker 6: had so much to offer this show, but she's always
Speaker 6: been handicapped by her first level to be connected to
Speaker 6: people that she liked on the show. For whatever reason,
Speaker 6: her and Gazelle are sorority sisters. There's a lot of
Speaker 6: alignment there, and Wendy just I think was attracted to
Speaker 6: a Jazelle presented as an anchor, a formidable anchor on
Speaker 6: this gas and she was thirsty for approval from her,
Speaker 6: from Robin, from Ashley, from all of them. Astley, she
Speaker 6: kind of went back and forth with the four degrees thing.
Speaker 7: In the beginning.
Speaker 6: That was a cute little you know that te but
Speaker 6: that's not anything substant Right now, the tides have changed.
Speaker 7: Wendy has a strong marriage.
Speaker 6: Her and her husband have faced controversy and accusations on
Speaker 6: this show and survived them. Wendy has gotten her coveted
Speaker 6: opportunity to read you know what I'm saying the cast
Speaker 6: members on the show and be you know, celebrated for it.
Speaker 6: Whitney has advanced to kind of a leadership role on
Speaker 6: the show because she has all the elements fundamentally to
Speaker 6: make her comfortable on the cast. And that's why we're
Speaker 6: seeing a light of hearted Wendy this season. She's laughing,
Speaker 6: she's focusing on the shit in her family. She's not
Speaker 6: focusing on the drama amongst the ladies. It's different here, Giselle.
Speaker 6: You don't care about Wendy. And so the minute that
Speaker 6: she called it out like she should have, you reminded
Speaker 6: her that me it was your friend, which she wasn't.
Speaker 7: Me and Gazel weren't never friends.
Speaker 6: When have you ever seen Jazel and Mia outside of
Speaker 6: the show, Carlos, you always say that's the line, right,
Speaker 6: that's the meter if we see him hanging out outside
Speaker 6: the show? Right, you ain't seen Jazel and Mia? You haven't,
Speaker 6: But but they decided to me.
Speaker 1: I thought at out, I did see a pig, because
Speaker 1: Mia talks about this my interview. When me it was
Speaker 1: going through with Gordon, Gizelle had a emascipation of mea
Speaker 1: like dinner.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some you have for people you don't fuck with
Speaker 6: all the time. You know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 6: have where you want where you want to make note,
Speaker 6: you know when you want to make highlight that you're
Speaker 6: there for some moment and you have an event and
Speaker 6: for the moment, no, heavenly and Jackie, I'm married to medicine.
Speaker 6: We'll get that later. But they're friends. They hang out
Speaker 6: and talked. Robin and Gazelle were friends, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying from the show. I don't think they was
Speaker 6: cool like that like that before the show, but when
Speaker 6: they started this show together, they think about it. That's
Speaker 6: a life changing experience, and you build bonds with the
Speaker 6: people that you share that experience with. They were really friends.
Speaker 6: Gazelle and Mia yang Win nowhere me and Jisell. Gizelle
Speaker 6: probably don't even know me as kids' names without she
Speaker 6: probably have to think about it, like what's the.
Speaker 7: Joshua? You know you can hear it now, you're like
Speaker 7: trying to think about it.
Speaker 6: So I just it's just not a real relationship, and
Speaker 6: I think that's sometimes. But y'all know what we got
Speaker 6: to talk about? Oh one more thing, ooh Jazz, I'm
Speaker 6: so glad. This is what I want to talk about.
Speaker 6: Ashley Ashley, Ashley, Ashley, let's talk about the Ashley Darby
Speaker 6: of it all. First of all, you are not and
Speaker 6: this is what irritates me about Ashley, Right, you ain't
Speaker 6: into that that boy that you got filming on this show,
Speaker 6: not one bit. And stop trying to pull that wool
Speaker 6: over our eyes.
Speaker 7: So to speak, by saying, I just really he kissed
Speaker 7: me in at it just ooh many of that men. No,
Speaker 7: you're not.
Speaker 6: You don't give a damn about that boy that you
Speaker 6: got filming with you on this show. And that lack
Speaker 6: of authenticity is what the problem is with Ashley on
Speaker 6: this show. Why aren't you filming in the in the
Speaker 6: on the floor of your closet, in your bedroom, crying
Speaker 6: about how scared you are about what's next for you?
Speaker 6: Why have you told us Michael Darby did this, This
Speaker 6: is why our marriage broke up, This is what we're
Speaker 6: going through. Why aren't you being transparent about that? But
Speaker 6: just giving us this? And I'm dating it's a hot guy,
Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot. That's not enough for me.
Speaker 6: That's not enough for me. That ain't enough for me.
Speaker 6: And I don't believe it's enough for either one of
Speaker 6: y'all either.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 4: It's absolutely not. But I think we've learned that from Ashley.
Speaker 4: She's never gonna give us the realty about where she's
Speaker 4: at with her relationship. There's no way you go from
Speaker 4: a man with means who is moneyed to the pool boy.
Speaker 4: I know he's not literally a pool boy, but that's
Speaker 4: what it's given. And yeah, from you know, the kiddi
Speaker 4: pool to the dating pool. She's not diving into the
Speaker 4: dating pool. She's lying about that's she's.
Speaker 5: Not being truthful about that.
Speaker 4: But she stopped being authentic about her relationship a really
Speaker 4: long time ago. So I do actually don't look to
Speaker 4: Ashley for that. I don't really I pay attention to
Speaker 4: her because she's there, but everything with her is kind
Speaker 4: of like, Okay, this is for this scene. You know,
Speaker 4: there's a big chatter about like Stacey renting TJ for
Speaker 4: the show actually is doing the same thing with.
Speaker 5: This Jock Carlow guy. So it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've stopped looking to actually for authenticity a
Speaker 4: really long time ago.
Speaker 5: She's just a beautiful.
Speaker 2: Guy, listen, beautiful girl. I do think this.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Ashley, and I said
Speaker 1: this before and I'll say it again, I think Ashley
Speaker 1: joined the show at a time where it was like fun,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I think it's been revealed. I'm not saying anything that
Speaker 2: has to be revealed publicly.
Speaker 1: Ashley actually was going to be I think she auditioned
Speaker 1: for Blood, Swim and Hills, right, Yeah, you know she
Speaker 1: auditioned for that. So I'll only bring that up to
Speaker 1: say Ashley obviously had a desire to get on reality
Speaker 1: television and she successfully got on the show. And what
Speaker 1: we're but what we can do, not that we're doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about globally, is a knowledge that at one
Speaker 1: point in time Ashley brought some amazing moments to the show.
Speaker 1: You know, she was a she was necessary in the
Speaker 1: sense of like Ashley, and she'll say this herself, Ashley
Speaker 1: is funny and messy, and she loves she loves being
Speaker 1: funny and messy. And when it came to Michael Garby,
Speaker 1: there was so much wealth of just like insanity that
Speaker 1: came along with their relationship, what he was doing or
Speaker 1: not doing, all of those things. And I do think
Speaker 1: what we're seeing now is Ashley just seems to be
Speaker 1: checked out.
Speaker 2: But when I say checked out.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think the love she had for
Speaker 1: the show at the beginning is still there. And I
Speaker 1: think she just I think she shows up and she
Speaker 1: makes sure she does something so that she could earn
Speaker 1: her check. But I don't see the love of the
Speaker 1: show in Ashley's anymore. Somebody when my braindrops said she
Speaker 1: was on say yes in the dress. Listen my brain
Speaker 1: drops through the research.
Speaker 2: Baby, listen all journalists, journalists, Hey, Portia, getting where you
Speaker 2: fit in?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: I I just don't think she loves it anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't think she enjoys it anymore. I think she's there
Speaker 1: just to be there. And that's that's what I see
Speaker 1: when I look at Ashley.
Speaker 5: She's there to get her singing career off the ground.
Speaker 7: Jazz where's it going? Once? And leave the ground? Remember
Speaker 7: she was singing at the at the g n A.
Speaker 5: Said where's where's the auto tune? He said, where's the
Speaker 5: auto tune?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I just ask her next act. I'm just
Speaker 7: over there, I think.
Speaker 6: And mia back to the mea of it all, like
Speaker 6: like just the lack of authenticity, I believe is the
Speaker 6: problem there. You can have a willingness to be transparent,
Speaker 6: but that can only go so far when the what
Speaker 6: are you being transparent about? It's just no substance there,
Speaker 6: you know, And on a show like the Real Housewives
Speaker 6: of Potomac specifically where we were introduced to these women
Speaker 6: where they were having spats related to a code of etiquette,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So to go from that
Speaker 6: to Mia and Ink, you know what I'm saying in
Speaker 6: the conversations that they haven't over them children's head like that,
Speaker 6: I just think it is a shocking departure from what
Speaker 6: the show is really about. And I would love to
Speaker 6: see Mia really confront the real shit that's going on
Speaker 6: in her life in a real way, not crying for
Speaker 6: the sake of crying so that you can say you
Speaker 6: had a vulnerable moment.
Speaker 7: But actually, I'll give you a prime example.
Speaker 6: There was a huge difference in what we saw from
Speaker 6: Mia when they showed her on that phone after Gordon
Speaker 6: had taken those kids from removed them from the care
Speaker 6: of the nanny and took them wherever, he took them
Speaker 6: across state line to wherever, four hours away whatever.
Speaker 7: That was real. When you watch me.
Speaker 6: Looking at that phone and she was like, I'm so mad,
Speaker 6: I don't know what to do, Like I'm just as
Speaker 6: long as my kids. Okay, that was some real shit.
Speaker 6: That wasn't no manufactured you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna share this because it's the lationist and this can
Speaker 6: be my story that was that was authentic, and there's
Speaker 6: a huge difference in the way that that feels as
Speaker 6: a viewer and what it adds to what pertaining to
Speaker 6: the way that we view the people on this cast.
Speaker 7: We want more of that.
Speaker 6: If Mia can do that, if she can give us
Speaker 6: honest reactions about the real shit that's going on in
Speaker 6: her life, then then bring it on.
Speaker 7: And I'm never the person that says they need to
Speaker 7: be fired.
Speaker 6: I think that's lame and I actually think it's not
Speaker 6: the view It's not our place as viewers to make
Speaker 6: those decisions. Right, these are the stories were presented, So
Speaker 6: let's just have a pians about what were been presented
Speaker 6: with And that being said, I think that there's time
Speaker 6: for some recalibration when it comes to the way that
Speaker 6: Mea is moving on this show, starting with her friendship
Speaker 6: with Jacqueline. What's going on because it feels like they
Speaker 6: used to go together and they have a bond that
Speaker 6: you know, has superseded the changes that have occurred in
Speaker 6: their lives. In their lives rather and now they just
Speaker 6: stick together. Mia was laughing, fake making fake laughing noises
Speaker 6: while Jacquelin was doing that sorry pisspoor sorry ass at
Speaker 6: ten for a moment by bringing those balloons to Karen's party, right,
Speaker 6: Mia was laughing. No, it wasn't funny. Nobody was laughing
Speaker 6: with you. It was nothing funny about it. And that's
Speaker 6: the shit that I feel like is a waste of
Speaker 6: time when it comes to this show. Me and you're
Speaker 6: wasting our time going out having a conversation when we
Speaker 6: get to the point where the scenes that make the
Speaker 6: cut our jack women standing in the street walking from
Speaker 6: the driveway to the street.
Speaker 7: And saying, oh she now we're in the street. I
Speaker 7: can stand here.
Speaker 6: She doesn't own this, and they stand there when that's
Speaker 6: what made the cut, there's a problem and you might
Speaker 6: not have a valuable contribution to the threads of the
Speaker 6: story of this show if that's all you got.
Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I just think there needs to be some reassessing done
Speaker 6: when it comes to me and her goddamn friends. There
Speaker 6: needs to be some sort of adjustment.
Speaker 4: Get Jacqueline off my screen yesterday, but I think she's
Speaker 4: so late late to me, like every time she's and
Speaker 4: you can tell production also thinks she's late because look
Speaker 4: at the edit that they're giving her.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, yes, Jay, they don't see it for her.
Speaker 5: Jack, they don't. I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: Late.
Speaker 4: It's not funny. It's not giving anything. It's there for me,
Speaker 4: a support and to give her back up when she
Speaker 4: needs it. That's all it's giving for me. Like if
Speaker 4: Jacqueline was like funny on her own, or if you
Speaker 4: could stand on her own. She was even bringing us
Speaker 4: really good passions something.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, let's not talk about that romper she
Speaker 6: had on at the Love Lagoon and she showed up Okay,
Speaker 6: y'all remember Dots. There used to be a story called
Speaker 6: Dots where you can get shipped like that. I'm just
Speaker 6: gonna say that. And that's what it looked like where
Speaker 6: she came from. Why are you even and shout out
Speaker 6: to k Keanu said that in a confessional, you could
Speaker 6: at least showed up looking sexy like you showing up
Speaker 6: like this doing this. It was just a failed attempt
Speaker 6: at a moment, And that's why people need to stick
Speaker 6: to the intention of their place on this cash. You
Speaker 6: cannot try to make a moment. You have to have
Speaker 6: honest reactions and have a real relevance to whatever is
Speaker 6: going on with the story.
Speaker 7: You cannot do dumb shit because it fails.
Speaker 6: Just like that bringing them balloons and eight for your
Speaker 6: eight sit tastes. There's nothing funny about that, nothing her.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's the delivery I do. Speaking of reassessing though,
Speaker 4: like you mentioned with me, I actually had an epiphany
Speaker 4: as we're sitting here and we're conversing about this, and
Speaker 4: I think I need to do somewhere. I need to
Speaker 4: do some reassessing as a viewer, like what do I
Speaker 4: want from these people, because like we can talk about
Speaker 4: them not being authentic, and then when they might be
Speaker 4: being authentic, right to me, it's credit. Maybe this Gordon
Speaker 4: thing is her reality and it's real, but then she's
Speaker 4: being authentic and it still isn't enough for me. Right,
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying I'm speaking for every reality TV fan.
Speaker 4: I am speaking for myself, though, maybe I need to
Speaker 4: reassess and reevaluate, like how I want these people to
Speaker 4: show up and like what I'm expecting from reality TV actors,
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, all they owe
Speaker 4: me is entertainment, and like, I need to just find
Speaker 4: the entertainment in it, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: think to the point of Potomac, a lot of well, actually,
Speaker 4: all the reality TV girls and guys and Day's right,
Speaker 4: people on reality TV now are very like hyper away
Speaker 4: of everything, like there's spandems. They know that people are
Speaker 4: going to react to them. If they do the right thing,
Speaker 4: they're in the good graces. If they do the wrong thing,
Speaker 4: it's a war zone every time they log into social media,
Speaker 4: and no one wants to be on the wrong side
Speaker 4: of that. So they all do these things where they
Speaker 4: like they want to be the fan favorite favorite, so
Speaker 4: they want to have these moments. They create these manufactured
Speaker 4: moments like bringing a balloons for eight citations.
Speaker 1: Child, We are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 4: And they don't want to show the real things that
Speaker 4: are going on in their lives because if we don't
Speaker 4: agree with it as viewers, it's vitriol, right, And so
Speaker 4: I think, as a viewer, I need to take a
Speaker 4: step back and reassess what I'm actually expecting from these people.
Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe, yeah, I think it's just.
Speaker 7: A saying race.
Speaker 1: That's a good question raised though, and what it's interesting
Speaker 1: and I want to cook with this too. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things you said that I want
Speaker 1: to dress.
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 1: When reality first started, right, So let's go back to
Speaker 1: like two thousand I started Reality TV doing the first
Speaker 1: season of Atlanta Housewives, right. So prior to that, OC
Speaker 1: already aired in New York City, just rap production but
Speaker 1: in an air yet, right, So I want to say
Speaker 1: two thousand and five is when The Real Housewives, or
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, one of those years is when
Speaker 1: the Real house Watch of Orange County came on. So
Speaker 1: prior to that, you have Flavor of Love, but the
Speaker 1: focal point was obviously Flavor flav And then Tiffany Pollard
Speaker 1: became like this surprise breakout.
Speaker 2: Star, but you have to dive into her personal life.
Speaker 1: She came in like trying to let me get this
Speaker 1: man and check all these girls. Right, So when reality
Speaker 1: started becoming more about your personal lives, right, even in
Speaker 1: the real world they were stuck in the house together
Speaker 1: and had to navigate being a part of.
Speaker 2: Each other's lives.
Speaker 1: You didn't go home with Tammy Roman you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, you focused on Tammy Roman inside this
Speaker 1: house and that's the only thing you knew about Tammy Roman.
Speaker 7: Right. As an example, when.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Housewives first came on board, I remember the first
Speaker 1: week of filming. So the first week of filming Atlanta
Speaker 1: Housewise is when Nini was not allowed in Charret's house.
Speaker 1: This is the first week of filming, right, and it
Speaker 1: was like, what show is this? Because the reactions and
Speaker 1: everything else were super duper real, And Sharay admitted later
Speaker 1: on my podcast, Hey Exclusive All my podcast that yeah,
Speaker 1: she definitely did not put Nini's name on the list
Speaker 1: because she did not want Nini in her house because
Speaker 1: in real life, she said, I don't care if there
Speaker 1: are cameras here. In real life, this woman would not
Speaker 1: be a lot of my house, so she won't be
Speaker 1: in my house. That was a real moment she was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't social media wasn't out back then. So I
Speaker 1: think what happened with reality is let's have a real
Speaker 1: conversation what happened with reality television?
Speaker 2: Which is why jas did you raised a good point
Speaker 2: in terms.
Speaker 1: Of what am I supposed to not like what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing or am I supposed to accept it and say
Speaker 1: that's that person's move on. I think what's happening nowadays
Speaker 1: is people during reality TV for the wrong reason.
Speaker 2: A lot of people during reality TV for a.
Speaker 1: Quick a quick fame, right, fame quickly, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them join it for the sole purpose of like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something quick, get my name out there
Speaker 1: and keep it pushing. And then there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of them too who come in with these preconceived notions
Speaker 1: of I know who I want to be, I know
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna act, I know exactly what I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Bring, and they don't allow themselves to be real.
Speaker 1: And last, but most importantly, most importantly, thank you. I
Speaker 1: just about to get the ring. My brain drops are
Speaker 1: the best. By the way, we all have the same
Speaker 1: mind right, social media, and I'm going to say this,
Speaker 1: social media has been a gift to all of us.
Speaker 1: You know, I was able to meet Jasmine that way.
Speaker 1: You know, me and Deskin were able to know each
Speaker 1: other that way. I will never ever negate the power
Speaker 1: of social media, past, present or future.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Not going anywhere, well, TikTok allegedly is in January, but.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other story for all who another day.
Speaker 1: Social media commentary has ruined the reality star. Yeah, social
Speaker 1: media commentary has ruined the reality star. And when I
Speaker 1: say that, what I'm saying is a couple of things
Speaker 1: have happened, and y'all ain't gotta believe me. I don't
Speaker 1: really give a ship. I'm in the business, so I
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, and I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: ruined a lot of them, but a large portion of them.
Speaker 2: What has happened is.
Speaker 1: The comments on social media has become so impactful in
Speaker 1: the reality star's life that they refuse to show up
Speaker 1: themselves and they they perform for the social media comments.
Speaker 1: They become a caricature based on what they think people
Speaker 1: like about them. They come in with gimmicks, thinking like
Speaker 1: this is going to make me iconic, or this is
Speaker 1: what's going to make me a star.
Speaker 7: The reason.
Speaker 5: Does she who shall not be named.
Speaker 2: The reason why I bring this up.
Speaker 4: Those dog treats one season. I'm still mad about that,
Speaker 4: and not to derail about it, and.
Speaker 6: The whole country glam she had on at the reunion
Speaker 6: that year too. Drew said, in that first chair, looking
Speaker 6: like Loretta Lynch, Loretta Lynn and all that, Patsy Klin
Speaker 6: full Country Glam.
Speaker 7: I was like, Damn Drew, Like you are a missed opportunity, right.
Speaker 7: I think that's the frustration. It was as that's a
Speaker 7: lot of it.
Speaker 1: A lot of it are those three cases. A lot
Speaker 1: of them joined to get famous and real quick. A
Speaker 1: lot of them join it just to and when they
Speaker 1: do join it, social media commentary has really taken a
Speaker 1: toll on them.
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why.
Speaker 1: You know, one example that I always give and I'm
Speaker 1: only talking about this because she talks about the publicly,
Speaker 1: because I don't tell my cast business in terms of
Speaker 1: private conversations.
Speaker 2: But Letitia Scott is somebody who.
Speaker 1: Contacted me and said the comments are very vicious and
Speaker 1: I don't know how to handle this.
Speaker 2: And I said to her, you have to get off Twitter.
Speaker 2: You have to get off Twitter. Do it for yourself,
Speaker 2: do it for your mental health.
Speaker 1: Long story short, she did it, and Tisha is her words,
Speaker 1: not mine. Tisha is living her rich wife era and
Speaker 1: it's because she found she found the rhythm for her.
Speaker 1: So my advice to reality stars is you have to
Speaker 1: find the rhythm that works for you. You can't be
Speaker 1: a slave to the comments of social media because let
Speaker 1: me teak you something. And Jasmine and Dustin knows this
Speaker 1: for sure. One day y'all love me, the next y'all
Speaker 1: hate me. I'm beloved years from And one thing I
Speaker 1: don't do and Jasmine knows is a lot doing our
Speaker 1: podcast together because my.
Speaker 2: Opinion costs so much conversation.
Speaker 1: That Jasmina was like, oh these people are they like you?
Speaker 2: But a lot of people do like me. But one
Speaker 2: thing I said to her and I say to Dustin, is.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be a slave to comments because
Speaker 1: as long as I show up with the best intentions
Speaker 1: and authentically me, I already won the game. And so Jasmine,
Speaker 1: I bring all of that up to say, when you
Speaker 1: ask yourself, like what MEA is giving, this is my opinion,
Speaker 1: and you guys, I'm being honest.
Speaker 2: Mia in my opinion. After I met Mia in.
Speaker 1: Person and she sat down on my college for an
Speaker 1: hour and we were able to talk afterwards, that is Mia.
Speaker 2: Now, look, you don't have to like it. And I
Speaker 2: used to talk about whether or not you know you're
Speaker 2: supposed to like it.
Speaker 1: The only thing I will say when it comes to
Speaker 1: MEA as an example, and I'm only bringing a Miya
Speaker 1: because Jasmine brought a Mia, Like whatever is that? That
Speaker 1: is who Mia honestly is is when the cameras ain't rolling.
Speaker 1: Mia came into my studio the way Mia walking into
Speaker 1: a scene and yes, doesn't shad blonde hair, and they
Speaker 1: on the conversations I was having with Mia after our
Speaker 1: interview wrapped, I was like, she is everything that I
Speaker 1: expected her to be. But I do think it's what
Speaker 1: Dustin said and doesn't actually gave me this advice when
Speaker 1: it comes to comments, doesn't said to me, Carlos, the
Speaker 1: comments that people.
Speaker 2: Leave is not for you. It's for them and the
Speaker 2: other people the comments.
Speaker 7: To have a dialogue.
Speaker 1: And when I say to you, right Jackson, when I
Speaker 1: say to you that lightbulb switch for me, it hit me.
Speaker 1: The comments that people leave under your post has absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you the individual. They have to
Speaker 1: have a conversation in the comments and let's have a
Speaker 1: real conversation. When we see a funny post on the
Speaker 1: Shade Room neighborhood talk Jasmine brand on anything. What's the
Speaker 1: first thing we do. We go to the comments to
Speaker 1: see the best comment. And that's the reason why you
Speaker 1: have to understand and all of us.
Speaker 2: Have to own it.
Speaker 1: We all look in the comments to see which one
Speaker 1: is cooking the best commentary, which is why we say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back when the comments are lit. So
Speaker 1: what we're doing when you say that is you're forcing
Speaker 1: people to lead the most ridiculous, salacious comment in the
Speaker 1: world for your entertainment.
Speaker 2: So again, when it comes to reality TV, my advice
Speaker 2: to you, Jazz is.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to say to yourself, maybe this ain't
Speaker 1: for me anymore. There's certain shows I stop watching that
Speaker 1: I realize this ain't for me anymore. I'm years old,
Speaker 1: I'm in a very different place in my life. Life
Speaker 1: has life has been lifing and for me, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say it. What shows I stop watching?
Speaker 7: So please, please God, Please.
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother That's a whole nother YouTube.
Speaker 1: That's that's another YouTube post that's gonna come out this week.
Speaker 1: What I will say is, and this is me being
Speaker 1: honest with you guys, there's a lot of shows I
Speaker 1: stop watching because I said to myself it no longer
Speaker 1: is for me. And what I did, I just took
Speaker 1: a step back and said, once I feel like it's
Speaker 1: give me what I desire. I'll return, but I'll end
Speaker 1: it with this. I literally, guys, I'll sun to my
Speaker 1: own shows. And this is me being very honest. I
Speaker 1: only watched two reality shows a week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that you're online trashing the
Speaker 6: shows that you don't watch.
Speaker 7: And I think that's the difference, right.
Speaker 6: You have to learn your you have to not even learn,
Speaker 6: you have to understand your responsibility as a viewer of
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 7: To not be toxic. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 7: just the reality of it.
Speaker 6: I'll talk just as much shit as the next person,
Speaker 6: but that I try my best not to go out
Speaker 6: of my way and bring negative energy towards something that
Speaker 6: if I don't rock necessarily with something, I just don't.
Speaker 6: I don't have to declare the fact that I don't rock.
Speaker 7: With it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And I think that's the difference the comments section, and
Speaker 6: I firmly believe this.
Speaker 7: It is not for the person that's in the video.
Speaker 6: It's for the people that watch the video or read
Speaker 6: the post or whatever and are employed to share some
Speaker 6: sort of or have a reaction that they think is
Speaker 6: worthy to be shared. That's what it's for. Have fun
Speaker 6: down there. It's not for people we're on this live
Speaker 6: right now. It's none of our business what's going on
Speaker 6: in the chat. Our job is not to see something
Speaker 6: in the chat and then respond or reform at or
Speaker 6: whatever to appease that.
Speaker 7: Those are for the comments.
Speaker 6: That are for people who are watching this and discussing
Speaker 6: it amongst themselves. And it's a respectable, great place, and
Speaker 6: we thank God for it. We thank God for those
Speaker 6: passionate reactions. We thank God for the views because it
Speaker 6: keeps everything going. But there is a line of accountability
Speaker 6: and and just just decency that a person has to
Speaker 6: have and not be willing to go the extra mile
Speaker 6: to make contact or make get yourself noticed or whatever.
Speaker 6: It's just not have your fun, have a reaction to
Speaker 6: the show, and be entertained and and and move on.
Speaker 6: That's all we need to do. So it's tricky, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Before oh go ahead, I's gonna take something way.
Speaker 4: I feel like we cannot wrap up pot on the conversation.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Have you talked about Karen.
Speaker 7: No, we haven't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to make it too long, right, Like
Speaker 4: speaking of authenticity and just like sharing real stories. I
Speaker 4: do want Karen to come back next season. I want
Speaker 4: Karen to address like what happened. I don't take glee
Speaker 4: and that I don't find it entertaining. I actually find
Speaker 4: it very sad to witness. But I do think that
Speaker 4: Karen has the opportunity to take like hold like take
Speaker 4: accountability and say, hey, I did this thing. This was
Speaker 4: messed up. I put myself in danger, I put other
Speaker 4: people in danger. This is how I'm going to do better.
Speaker 4: I do think in all of my maybe reassessing of
Speaker 4: like what I want from reality TV stars, at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, these guys are stars, and I
Speaker 4: think there is a real opportunity for a teachable moment
Speaker 4: with drinking and driving, and everybody knows I love caring down.
Speaker 4: I do not support this, but I think there is
Speaker 4: an opportunity for Karen to come back next season and say,
Speaker 4: or even at the reunion, I messed up, like I
Speaker 4: had a drinking problem, or I have a drinking problem.
Speaker 5: I'm getting to help.
Speaker 4: This is not okay to do, like, don't find entertainment
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 5: This was not good, this was not cool.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's nothing she can say after them
Speaker 6: videos we saw over the weekend, because when I tell you,
Speaker 6: our girl was on one that night and it just
Speaker 6: was the reality of it.
Speaker 7: Karen was drunk. She was drunk driving.
Speaker 6: Thank God in heaven or whatever your belief system is,
Speaker 6: Thank your sore that no one was hurt, that she
Speaker 6: was not hurt, Thank God that the police officer, there
Speaker 6: was no weird police shit between her and them, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. For the most part, Karen just
Speaker 6: has to pay her debt to society whatever that looks like,
Speaker 6: and move on from this in a healthier way.
Speaker 7: But I want to know what she was taught. What
Speaker 7: did she mean?
Speaker 6: I want to know what you mean, you Thomas Jefferson's kind?
Speaker 6: What was she Karen must that she was full of
Speaker 6: mad dog or booms farm. She was drinking some old
Speaker 6: that was one of them, good drunk, just down in it.
Speaker 6: She was just feeling that shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I thought that that was hilarious.
Speaker 7: So it wasn't funny. Poor Ray, bless us her.
Speaker 6: Ray was trying his best to help her at that
Speaker 6: scene with the police. He was trying his best, digging
Speaker 6: for an idea or whatever, holding on that envio on
Speaker 6: that bag without complaint. Right if we didn't think, I
Speaker 6: know Ray said whatever he said on the show before
Speaker 6: by I think so if I mean, if he's in
Speaker 6: love with or whatever, damn it, we know now because
Speaker 6: Ray was a ride or die. You know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying for Karen and that that case, and it just
Speaker 6: ain't nothing she can say. Karen just going this reunion
Speaker 6: and be like, yes, I fucked up. I fucked up bad,
Speaker 6: y'all all saw it. What do you want me to do?
Speaker 6: I'm apologizing to my family and to the world, to
Speaker 6: the officers, and that's it. Just say what you did,
Speaker 6: take accountability, and then check each and every one of
Speaker 6: them on those couches at that reunion to have their
Speaker 6: own bones.
Speaker 7: Ready to fall out the closet. That's what you do.
Speaker 6: You take accountability, they don't make no excuses, and then
Speaker 6: handle your business. And I also want to say, I
Speaker 6: think it's utterly ridiculous as even being discussed that there's
Speaker 6: rumors of her being fired for this. There's no reason
Speaker 6: that Karen should lose her employment with who's the production
Speaker 6: company over there, whoever it is? That Okay, Yeah, truly
Speaker 6: you're losing your that's ridiculous. Karen does not need to
Speaker 6: be fired or disciplined. This has nothing to do, if anything,
Speaker 6: this is what we're gonna talk about on the damn show.
Speaker 7: So she doesn't need to depart the show for this letter. Cook,
Speaker 7: that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, no, listen.
Speaker 1: So what I'll say is I'll echo the same sentiments
Speaker 1: our thoughts and press got.
Speaker 2: To Karen.
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's just something to where. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was we love Karen and I and I saw karens
Speaker 1: the last week, the week before, I saw Cam before
Speaker 1: and she was in great spirits. She was in great spirits.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a very it was very sad. It
Speaker 1: was very sad. But again, listen, my priss brought to
Speaker 1: Karen and Ray and the children, and like just Dustin said,
Speaker 1: we'll see Karen at the reunion. I do think they're
Speaker 1: taping it very soon, so you know we'll be able
Speaker 1: to hear her thoughts about this. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very sad. It was very sad. Yeah, So we have
Speaker 1: to talk about maritime medicine.
Speaker 2: Jasmine tweet you on fire last night.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this thing that everybody wants to address.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just get right into it. So Contesta is bad.
Speaker 1: Contesta is back as a friend up. So Contessa, as
Speaker 1: we all know, was a main cast member for I
Speaker 1: think like five six seasons if I'm not mistaken, maybe,
Speaker 1: and she is now back as a friend to the show.
Speaker 1: The cast went on a trip and things started tripping.
Speaker 2: Jasmine, go ahead, child, I'm gonna say lots of thoughts.
Speaker 4: Because Heavenly was so nasty for that. She was so nasty,
Speaker 4: like that yo mama stuff. She's got in trouble for that.
Speaker 4: But Contessa was trying to give her now like my
Speaker 4: mom who passed away, My mom who passed away, and
Speaker 4: she she stood on it. Disgusting And I will say
Speaker 4: I do not condone violence, but as someone who has
Speaker 4: a sick mother right now, if somebody was saying yo mama,
Speaker 4: and we're in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 5: I would have slapped the shit out of her. I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry.
Speaker 4: I do not condone violence, but that's a slappable offense,
Speaker 4: like are you kidding me? That was so disgusting. And
Speaker 4: then Heavenly talks all this, and then she was calling
Speaker 4: for security. Heavenly, Heavenly stop doing so much. Stop running
Speaker 4: your mom so much. If you know you're gonna be
Speaker 4: calling for security, that's what you get. I think with this,
Speaker 4: there were there were people who were saying both ways,
Speaker 4: like what Contessa was saying to Heavenly was hurtful, but
Speaker 4: keep it at the husbands, keep it, keep it there, like,
Speaker 4: don't talk about somebody who's dead parent like I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't get through that. I can't get over that.
Speaker 4: And if I was contested, I would never ever speak
Speaker 4: to Heavenly ever again, Like there would be never a
Speaker 4: word that Heavenly could say to me. I don't care
Speaker 4: if it's sorry, because you took it there and I
Speaker 4: tried to give you one out to stop yourself and
Speaker 4: realize what you were saying, and you dug your heels in.
Speaker 4: I will never speak to her again if I was contesta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is and just I'll get to you too.
Speaker 1: The thing is this, And I told Heavily this too.
Speaker 1: Heavily knows how I feel.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like your mama jokes, that's me.
Speaker 7: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: My mom has passed away. I'm with you, Jazz in
Speaker 1: terms of I just don't like your mama jokes.
Speaker 7: I don't like your.
Speaker 1: Mama jokes as a kid because I was a mama's boy.
Speaker 1: So you talk about my mama, you know it's a problem.
Speaker 2: This is my thing, this is my thing.
Speaker 1: I just think your mama jokes or talking about someone's.
Speaker 2: Mom, I just think you should keep it to each other.
Speaker 1: Like like leave the lead, the moms out of it,
Speaker 1: the kids out of it.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't even say that. I think it's one
Speaker 2: of those things.
Speaker 1: Where if you and I, Jasmine, if you and I
Speaker 1: are getting into it and I have a problem with you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to address you.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dress your man.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to talk.
Speaker 1: About your I'm gonna I'm not gonna bring your man
Speaker 1: into our our beef.
Speaker 2: I think it's just stick to each other. If y'all
Speaker 2: gonna go toe to toe, go toe to toe.
Speaker 1: I I I don't like your mama Joe's I've never
Speaker 1: liked it. I've said it to heavily before. You know
Speaker 1: how I feel. And I love this heavenly and the
Speaker 1: same thing when Candace said it to me a once,
Speaker 1: and I love Candace, and I said, I just I
Speaker 1: just think you, Yeah, I am somebody I have never
Speaker 1: liked it, and I just, I just I just think,
Speaker 1: leave the mothers, the children, and the husbands out of
Speaker 1: the reeds and stick with each other.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you say something about my mama or
Speaker 6: dead or alive, and I'm I'm fucking your personally.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But that's me, so I totally understand it. I think
Speaker 6: that it is worth noting right that Contessa was taking
Speaker 6: some vera and y'all please excuse of course, here comes
Speaker 6: the sirens of Harlem when I started speaking my peace
Speaker 6: about this, but Contesta started a lot of that low
Speaker 6: blow mud slinging that was going on. I guess that's
Speaker 6: Heavenly coming to give me for I talk about.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 5: She to me and queens don't.
Speaker 7: But but I think that started a lot of that
Speaker 7: low blow.
Speaker 6: Shit when she was saying things. Let's let's zoom out
Speaker 6: a little bit, because sometimes that to do right. Heavenly
Speaker 6: and Contessa are an unlikely duo that became real friends
Speaker 6: in real life, traveled together, intermingled their families, share personal
Speaker 6: information like they were real friends. We know that for
Speaker 6: Heavenly to have that sort of commitment to a relationship,
Speaker 6: the the allegiance that she has like the doctor Jackie,
Speaker 6: you know to people that she too quiet. You know,
Speaker 6: through it all, she maintains a connection with her because
Speaker 6: that fundamental relationship is important. That's sorarity when it comes
Speaker 6: to what we've seen from Doctor Heavenly on this show.
Speaker 6: She really cared about Contesta and Kintessa appeared to really
Speaker 6: care about her when they started arguing on this week's episode,
Speaker 6: Kintessa was saying some shit that were obvious low blows
Speaker 6: because she's hurt. She resents Heavenly for speaking on the
Speaker 6: details that she shared with her about her marriage when
Speaker 6: she was at a low point with her husband, and
Speaker 6: Heavenly held too tight to those things and started behaving
Speaker 6: differently with Contessa's husband. With Kntessa, that's a grave mistake
Speaker 6: that you make in a friendship. You got to keep
Speaker 6: that separated, you know what I mean, And you have
Speaker 6: to be the type of friend that knows how to
Speaker 6: compartmentalize all of that. Unless a person's safety is involved,
Speaker 6: that's a different conversation. But telling you details about your
Speaker 6: man or whatever, you keep that in as a friend.
Speaker 6: Heavenly crossed the line with that. Kintessa got back with
Speaker 6: her man and was too. She wasn't ready to deal
Speaker 6: with a recont of the embarrassment of kind of facing
Speaker 6: and accepting standing in the shit that she said, so instead,
Speaker 6: she thought it was smarter to just go at Heavenly
Speaker 6: all no holds by. That's why we've seen guns blazing
Speaker 6: from her for her to talk about Heavenly.
Speaker 7: She said, you buy your kids.
Speaker 6: You started, and she was yelling so that what she
Speaker 6: was saying would be sure to be amplified on the
Speaker 6: mics and be carried into the final cut. She said,
Speaker 6: you know, you bought a beauty supply to love keep
Speaker 6: your daughter's love, and it failed, It didn't succeed. She
Speaker 6: was taking some real low blows talking about Heavenly's love
Speaker 6: for her children, all that kind of shit.
Speaker 7: That's why Heavenly started talking about that husband.
Speaker 6: And to me, it's a full stop I'm by no
Speaker 6: means excuse me what doctor Heavenly said about Contessa's mother,
Speaker 6: her deceased mother. That was reprehensible, right, so full stop
Speaker 6: wrong as hell. You wrong for saying that about her
Speaker 6: deceased mother. But Contessa was slinging a lot of low
Speaker 6: blows in that argument too, And I have a very
Speaker 6: I have a disdain for people who into friendship with
Speaker 6: someone and then take it to then try to use
Speaker 6: the things you know to try to hurt them. To me,
Speaker 6: that's just a nasty spirit that I saw surface. People
Speaker 6: put that on Heavenly a lot, but we saw it
Speaker 6: in blatant vorn from Contesta. Every scene we've seen her
Speaker 6: in this season as a friend, she's letting us know
Speaker 6: how much she can't stand Heavenly. I don't know if
Speaker 6: that's to ensure, you know what I'm saying, her place
Speaker 6: on the cast or what, but it doesn't look good
Speaker 6: when you come off of that. I didn't like that.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's who Contesta is as a person.
Speaker 6: I think she's a very accomplished physician. She used to
Speaker 6: talk about wanting to be the surgeon General. She had
Speaker 6: lofty goals and like just a beautiful family, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, a gorgeous home. There's so much more
Speaker 6: to concentrate on than her bad clothes and her fighting
Speaker 6: with Heavenly. So I just would rather, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, I would rather them figure that out
Speaker 6: and Contesta just get back to being fun and lighthearted
Speaker 6: as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. Every
Speaker 6: fucking time we see her, it just becomes a lot. Honestly,
Speaker 6: think she forgot. I think heavenly forgot that Contesta's mother
Speaker 6: was passed away. In the heat of that argument, and
Speaker 6: after it came out, instead of saying I'm sorry, I
Speaker 6: didn't think I shouldn't have said that kind of owning it,
Speaker 6: then she doubled down on it in anger, and that
Speaker 6: was just flat out wrong as hell, just wrong as fuck.
Speaker 7: There's nothing you can say why.
Speaker 1: Leave, Because the thing is this, you never know what
Speaker 1: someone's mama is going through. Jasone just reveal her mother
Speaker 1: is sick as of today, So me being somebody who
Speaker 1: knows her mother is alive.
Speaker 2: You know, if I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Jackson mama was sick just because I said your mama jokes.
Speaker 1: That's why I just think. I just think this for everybody.
Speaker 1: Leave the mammas and the daddy kids.
Speaker 2: Out of it. Don't talk about kids, don't talk about.
Speaker 1: You know, parents. And the thing with Contesta listen, I
Speaker 1: love Contessa. I was I was sad she wasn't returning
Speaker 1: to the show. The Contessa is definitely going low. That
Speaker 1: what I loved about Contessa was Kintessa to me, being
Speaker 1: a fan of the show, she always kind of rolls
Speaker 1: above it a little bit without without being seen as
Speaker 1: somebody who can defend herself. I don't like the low
Speaker 1: mud slinging from Contesta because I agree with you that
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's her. And I know and
Speaker 1: Contessa Contessa is funny, she she's smart, and she.
Speaker 2: Could get with you.
Speaker 1: But I was surprised with some of the things Contesta
Speaker 1: was saying, only because that's not the Contesta that I've
Speaker 1: ever saw.
Speaker 7: M h. It's clear, it's clear.
Speaker 6: That's why it seems so forced and so like god damn,
Speaker 6: like what why? Why is this what you're choosing to
Speaker 6: do when there's so many other options here. So I
Speaker 6: hope they figure that out. But to me, that's like
Speaker 6: a point of no return. My mamma passed away. You
Speaker 6: fuck with my family a lot. I don't care what
Speaker 6: side of the ground they are. You messed with mine
Speaker 6: at I love. That's a non negotiable, Like there's no
Speaker 6: coming back from that. So let's see what that looks like,
Speaker 6: you know, in the form of a reality show. I
Speaker 6: don't know, but true, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be gonna be hard.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 4: Outside of that though, like we talked about what I
Speaker 4: want out of reality stars, this is a show. I'm
Speaker 4: riding with them to the will fall off. I love
Speaker 4: Mary Medicine like these I watched this show and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I want to be just like these ladies. When I
Speaker 4: get into like my fifties and sixties, like just beautiful,
Speaker 4: Like even when they get into the drama, like it
Speaker 4: feels like until this this point, it always felt like
Speaker 4: stuff that they could come back from. And that's what
Speaker 4: I've always loved about this show. So I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 4: gonna keep watching it. But yeah, if I was contested,
Speaker 4: I just I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: But she might be in want of my forgiveness.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is that it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: see how they be able to navigate through that.
Speaker 2: So they haven't shot their reunion yet. One thing that
Speaker 2: we know Heavenly has done in the past that we've seen,
Speaker 2: she will apologize, for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Heavenly apologizes to her, But like Jasmine said,
Speaker 1: it's an apology even enough, and and and that's something
Speaker 1: that we have to respect Contessa's boundaries.
Speaker 7: It's an apology enough.
Speaker 1: And listen on the on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: can heavenly possibly accept an apology when Contessa accused.
Speaker 2: Daddy of having was it mixed babies?
Speaker 6: Yes, she said, mixed babies with the possible last name
Speaker 6: of coms on the internet rumors bullshit that should have
Speaker 6: never made it to the final cut.
Speaker 7: But yes, yes, so can.
Speaker 1: Heavenly forgive her for putting out there that Damon may
Speaker 1: have side children when his kids have to listen to that.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think there's a certain things that if you're going
Speaker 1: to read each other, listen. One thing about Lenithia Monique
Speaker 1: Johnson Leaks and kimberly' zoziac.
Speaker 2: Those two used to ring.
Speaker 1: This down down to the ground Scharay and Needy raised
Speaker 1: Rovert he you know what I'm saying, Like you lost
Speaker 1: your house, you lost they kept it. They kept it
Speaker 1: to each other, like let's go and and I think
Speaker 1: if the reality girls want to listen, I think go
Speaker 1: back to keeping it beeping with each other and leave
Speaker 1: everything else out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent.
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