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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 2: What's about that? Why did you y'all?

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Speaker 3: Okay, love, y'all are trying to throw be shade talking

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Speaker 3: about would I say to you?

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Speaker 1: Jazz and the Dust said, you don't get I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's part of being Carlos King and heavy is the

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Speaker 1: head that rears the crown and God bless me the

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Speaker 1: last name King for a reason.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the most views that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, hey, so hi guys, and I can't

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Speaker 2: Thank you to all who have joined.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've been seeing some of y'all trying to read

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Speaker 1: me about Mia.

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Speaker 2: Carlos hype mea up.

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Speaker 1: Carlos hyped me up thinking she was a star of

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I would like to say this, and I want

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Speaker 2: I stand by Mia being a star.

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Speaker 1: I stand by Mia blyon right, the name that I

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Speaker 2: With it and did wonderful things with that name.

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Speaker 1: The thing is this, when you are somebody that is

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Speaker 1: the most talked about on the show. And we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the specifics, right right, I wanted to say overall,

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Speaker 1: I got this wrong. The only person we're talking about

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Potomac is Mia, whether it's good

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Speaker 2: So my accuracy in saying that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, She's the one that people talk about again, whether

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Speaker 2: And we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: But without Mia nothing would be happening, just like I

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Speaker 2: Mea has done. We're about to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to say that, but I want

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Speaker 1: Jason to go first with this Potomac episode and Joe

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Speaker 1: your overall thoughts. So first things first, what are your

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Speaker 4: I think to your point, she is the most talked about,

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Speaker 5: What are we doing right now? I where do I start?

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Speaker 5: Mia? Do be lying? Mia?

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Speaker 4: Is she's using it as a crutch for her very

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things where I always say this

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Speaker 1: Like, what is it about Mia where you are just

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Speaker 7: So to speak, by saying, I just really he kissed

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Speaker 6: You don't give a damn about that boy that you

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Speaker 6: Why have you told us Michael Darby did this, This

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Speaker 5: This Jock Carlow guy. So it is what it is.

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Speaker 5: She's just a beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Guy, listen, beautiful girl. I do think this.

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Ashley, and I said

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Speaker 2: I think it's been revealed. I'm not saying anything that

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Speaker 1: Ashley actually was going to be I think she auditioned

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Speaker 2: Baby, listen all journalists, journalists, Hey, Portia, getting where you

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: I I just don't think she loves it anymore. I

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Speaker 5: She's there to get her singing career off the ground.

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Speaker 7: Jazz where's it going? Once? And leave the ground? Remember

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Speaker 5: Said where's where's the auto tune? He said, where's the

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I just ask her next act. I'm just

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Speaker 6: you know, And on a show like the Real Housewives

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Speaker 7: But actually, I'll give you a prime example.

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Speaker 7: That was real. When you watch me.

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Speaker 6: That wasn't no manufactured you know what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 7: We want more of that.

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Speaker 6: If Mia can do that, if she can give us

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Speaker 7: And I'm never the person that says they need to

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Speaker 6: I think that's lame and I actually think it's not

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Speaker 6: Mia was laughing. No, it wasn't funny. Nobody was laughing

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Speaker 7: And saying, oh she now we're in the street. I

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Speaker 6: She doesn't own this, and they stand there when that's

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Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I just think there needs to be some reassessing done

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Speaker 6: when it comes to me and her goddamn friends. There

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Speaker 4: Get Jacqueline off my screen yesterday, but I think she's

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, yes, Jay, they don't see it for her.

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Speaker 4: It's not funny. It's not giving anything. It's there for me,

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, let's not talk about that romper she

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Speaker 6: y'all remember Dots. There used to be a story called

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Speaker 7: You cannot do dumb shit because it fails.

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Speaker 6: Just like that bringing them balloons and eight for your

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's the delivery I do. Speaking of reassessing though,

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned with me, I actually had an epiphany

440
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 4: as we're sitting here and we're conversing about this, and

441
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: I think I need to do somewhere. I need to

442
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Speaker 4: do some reassessing as a viewer, like what do I

443
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Speaker 4: want from these people, because like we can talk about

444
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: them not being authentic, and then when they might be

445
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Speaker 4: being authentic, right to me, it's credit. Maybe this Gordon

446
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: thing is her reality and it's real, but then she's

447
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Speaker 4: being authentic and it still isn't enough for me. Right,

448
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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying I'm speaking for every reality TV fan.

449
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 4: I am speaking for myself, though, maybe I need to

450
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Speaker 4: reassess and reevaluate, like how I want these people to

451
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Speaker 4: show up and like what I'm expecting from reality TV actors,

452
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Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, all they owe

453
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Speaker 4: me is entertainment, and like, I need to just find

454
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Speaker 4: the entertainment in it, you know what I mean. I

455
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 4: think to the point of Potomac, a lot of well, actually,

456
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: all the reality TV girls and guys and Day's right,

457
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Speaker 4: people on reality TV now are very like hyper away

458
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 4: of everything, like there's spandems. They know that people are

459
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Speaker 4: going to react to them. If they do the right thing,

460
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 4: they're in the good graces. If they do the wrong thing,

461
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 4: it's a war zone every time they log into social media,

462
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Speaker 4: and no one wants to be on the wrong side

463
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Speaker 4: of that. So they all do these things where they

464
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Speaker 4: like they want to be the fan favorite favorite, so

465
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Speaker 4: they want to have these moments. They create these manufactured

466
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Speaker 4: moments like bringing a balloons for eight citations.

467
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Speaker 1: Child, We are just getting started. This is reality with

468
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Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

469
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Speaker 1: the show.

470
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Speaker 4: And they don't want to show the real things that

471
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Speaker 4: are going on in their lives because if we don't

472
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 4: agree with it as viewers, it's vitriol, right, And so

473
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Speaker 4: I think, as a viewer, I need to take a

474
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Speaker 4: step back and reassess what I'm actually expecting from these people.

475
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Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe, yeah, I think it's just.

476
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Speaker 7: A saying race.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question raised though, and what it's interesting

478
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Speaker 1: and I want to cook with this too. You know,

479
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things you said that I want

480
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Speaker 1: to dress.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

482
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Speaker 1: When reality first started, right, So let's go back to

483
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Speaker 1: like two thousand I started Reality TV doing the first

484
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: season of Atlanta Housewives, right. So prior to that, OC

485
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: already aired in New York City, just rap production but

486
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Speaker 1: in an air yet, right, So I want to say

487
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five is when The Real Housewives, or

488
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, one of those years is when

489
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Speaker 1: the Real house Watch of Orange County came on. So

490
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Speaker 1: prior to that, you have Flavor of Love, but the

491
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: focal point was obviously Flavor flav And then Tiffany Pollard

492
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Speaker 1: became like this surprise breakout.

493
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Speaker 2: Star, but you have to dive into her personal life.

494
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Speaker 1: She came in like trying to let me get this

495
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: man and check all these girls. Right, So when reality

496
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: started becoming more about your personal lives, right, even in

497
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: the real world they were stuck in the house together

498
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Speaker 1: and had to navigate being a part of.

499
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Speaker 2: Each other's lives.

500
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Speaker 1: You didn't go home with Tammy Roman you know what

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like, you focused on Tammy Roman inside this

502
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Speaker 1: house and that's the only thing you knew about Tammy Roman.

503
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Speaker 7: Right. As an example, when.

504
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Speaker 1: Atlanta Housewives first came on board, I remember the first

505
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Speaker 1: week of filming. So the first week of filming Atlanta

506
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Speaker 1: Housewise is when Nini was not allowed in Charret's house.

507
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Speaker 1: This is the first week of filming, right, and it

508
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: was like, what show is this? Because the reactions and

509
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: everything else were super duper real, And Sharay admitted later

510
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Speaker 1: on my podcast, Hey Exclusive All my podcast that yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: she definitely did not put Nini's name on the list

512
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Speaker 1: because she did not want Nini in her house because

513
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: in real life, she said, I don't care if there

514
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: are cameras here. In real life, this woman would not

515
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Speaker 1: be a lot of my house, so she won't be

516
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Speaker 1: in my house. That was a real moment she was.

517
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Speaker 1: It wasn't social media wasn't out back then. So I

518
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: think what happened with reality is let's have a real

519
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: conversation what happened with reality television?

520
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Speaker 2: Which is why jas did you raised a good point

521
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Speaker 2: in terms.

522
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Speaker 1: Of what am I supposed to not like what I'm

523
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: seeing or am I supposed to accept it and say

524
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: that's that person's move on. I think what's happening nowadays

525
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: is people during reality TV for the wrong reason.

526
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: A lot of people during reality TV for a.

527
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: Quick a quick fame, right, fame quickly, and a lot

528
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: of them join it for the sole purpose of like,

529
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something quick, get my name out there

530
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Speaker 1: and keep it pushing. And then there's there's a lot

531
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Speaker 1: of them too who come in with these preconceived notions

532
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: of I know who I want to be, I know

533
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna act, I know exactly what I'm going to.

534
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Bring, and they don't allow themselves to be real.

535
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: And last, but most importantly, most importantly, thank you. I

536
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: just about to get the ring. My brain drops are

537
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the best. By the way, we all have the same

538
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: mind right, social media, and I'm going to say this,

539
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: social media has been a gift to all of us.

540
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was able to meet Jasmine that way.

541
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, me and Deskin were able to know each

542
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: other that way. I will never ever negate the power

543
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: of social media, past, present or future.

544
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

545
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: Not going anywhere, well, TikTok allegedly is in January, but.

546
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: That's a whole other story for all who another day.

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: Social media commentary has ruined the reality star. Yeah, social

548
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: media commentary has ruined the reality star. And when I

549
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: say that, what I'm saying is a couple of things

550
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: have happened, and y'all ain't gotta believe me. I don't

551
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: really give a ship. I'm in the business, so I

552
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, and I'm not saying it

553
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: ruined a lot of them, but a large portion of them.

554
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: What has happened is.

555
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: The comments on social media has become so impactful in

556
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: the reality star's life that they refuse to show up

557
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: themselves and they they perform for the social media comments.

558
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: They become a caricature based on what they think people

559
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: like about them. They come in with gimmicks, thinking like

560
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: this is going to make me iconic, or this is

561
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: what's going to make me a star.

562
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 7: The reason.

563
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 5: Does she who shall not be named.

564
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: The reason why I bring this up.

565
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: Those dog treats one season. I'm still mad about that,

566
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: and not to derail about it, and.

567
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 6: The whole country glam she had on at the reunion

568
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: that year too. Drew said, in that first chair, looking

569
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 6: like Loretta Lynch, Loretta Lynn and all that, Patsy Klin

570
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 6: full Country Glam.

571
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Speaker 7: I was like, Damn Drew, Like you are a missed opportunity, right.

572
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 7: I think that's the frustration. It was as that's a

573
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Speaker 7: lot of it.

574
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Speaker 1: A lot of it are those three cases. A lot

575
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: of them joined to get famous and real quick. A

576
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: lot of them join it just to and when they

577
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: do join it, social media commentary has really taken a

578
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: toll on them.

579
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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why.

580
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Speaker 1: You know, one example that I always give and I'm

581
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: only talking about this because she talks about the publicly,

582
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: because I don't tell my cast business in terms of

583
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: private conversations.

584
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: But Letitia Scott is somebody who.

585
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: Contacted me and said the comments are very vicious and

586
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to handle this.

587
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: And I said to her, you have to get off Twitter.

588
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: You have to get off Twitter. Do it for yourself,

589
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: do it for your mental health.

590
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: Long story short, she did it, and Tisha is her words,

591
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: not mine. Tisha is living her rich wife era and

592
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: it's because she found she found the rhythm for her.

593
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: So my advice to reality stars is you have to

594
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Speaker 1: find the rhythm that works for you. You can't be

595
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: a slave to the comments of social media because let

596
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: me teak you something. And Jasmine and Dustin knows this

597
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: for sure. One day y'all love me, the next y'all

598
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: hate me. I'm beloved years from And one thing I

599
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: don't do and Jasmine knows is a lot doing our

600
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: podcast together because my.

601
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: Opinion costs so much conversation.

602
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: That Jasmina was like, oh these people are they like you?

603
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: But a lot of people do like me. But one

604
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: thing I said to her and I say to Dustin, is.

605
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be a slave to comments because

606
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: as long as I show up with the best intentions

607
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: and authentically me, I already won the game. And so Jasmine,

608
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I bring all of that up to say, when you

609
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: ask yourself, like what MEA is giving, this is my opinion,

610
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and you guys, I'm being honest.

611
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Mia in my opinion. After I met Mia in.

612
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Speaker 1: Person and she sat down on my college for an

613
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Speaker 1: hour and we were able to talk afterwards, that is Mia.

614
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Now, look, you don't have to like it. And I

615
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: used to talk about whether or not you know you're

616
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 2: supposed to like it.

617
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: The only thing I will say when it comes to

618
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Speaker 1: MEA as an example, and I'm only bringing a Miya

619
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: because Jasmine brought a Mia, Like whatever is that? That

620
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: is who Mia honestly is is when the cameras ain't rolling.

621
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: Mia came into my studio the way Mia walking into

622
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: a scene and yes, doesn't shad blonde hair, and they

623
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: on the conversations I was having with Mia after our

624
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: interview wrapped, I was like, she is everything that I

625
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: expected her to be. But I do think it's what

626
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: Dustin said and doesn't actually gave me this advice when

627
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: it comes to comments, doesn't said to me, Carlos, the

628
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: comments that people.

629
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Speaker 2: Leave is not for you. It's for them and the

630
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: other people the comments.

631
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Speaker 7: To have a dialogue.

632
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: And when I say to you, right Jackson, when I

633
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: say to you that lightbulb switch for me, it hit me.

634
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: The comments that people leave under your post has absolutely

635
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you the individual. They have to

636
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: have a conversation in the comments and let's have a

637
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 1: real conversation. When we see a funny post on the

638
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Shade Room neighborhood talk Jasmine brand on anything. What's the

639
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: first thing we do. We go to the comments to

640
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: see the best comment. And that's the reason why you

641
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: have to understand and all of us.

642
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: Have to own it.

643
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: We all look in the comments to see which one

644
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: is cooking the best commentary, which is why we say

645
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back when the comments are lit. So

646
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: what we're doing when you say that is you're forcing

647
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: people to lead the most ridiculous, salacious comment in the

648
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: world for your entertainment.

649
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: So again, when it comes to reality TV, my advice

650
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: to you, Jazz is.

651
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to say to yourself, maybe this ain't

652
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: for me anymore. There's certain shows I stop watching that

653
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: I realize this ain't for me anymore. I'm years old,

654
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm in a very different place in my life. Life

655
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: has life has been lifing and for me, I'm not

656
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: gonna say it. What shows I stop watching?

657
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Speaker 7: So please, please God, Please.

658
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother That's a whole nother YouTube.

659
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: That's that's another YouTube post that's gonna come out this week.

660
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: What I will say is, and this is me being

661
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: honest with you guys, there's a lot of shows I

662
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: stop watching because I said to myself it no longer

663
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: is for me. And what I did, I just took

664
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: a step back and said, once I feel like it's

665
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: give me what I desire. I'll return, but I'll end

666
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: it with this. I literally, guys, I'll sun to my

667
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: own shows. And this is me being very honest. I

668
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: only watched two reality shows a week.

669
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that you're online trashing the

670
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: shows that you don't watch.

671
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 7: And I think that's the difference, right.

672
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: You have to learn your you have to not even learn,

673
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 6: you have to understand your responsibility as a viewer of

674
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 6: the show.

675
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 7: To not be toxic. You know what I'm saying. It's

676
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 7: just the reality of it.

677
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 6: I'll talk just as much shit as the next person,

678
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 6: but that I try my best not to go out

679
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 6: of my way and bring negative energy towards something that

680
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 6: if I don't rock necessarily with something, I just don't.

681
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: I don't have to declare the fact that I don't rock.

682
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 7: With it, you know what I mean?

683
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 6: And I think that's the difference the comments section, and

684
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: I firmly believe this.

685
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: It is not for the person that's in the video.

686
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: It's for the people that watch the video or read

687
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 6: the post or whatever and are employed to share some

688
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 6: sort of or have a reaction that they think is

689
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 6: worthy to be shared. That's what it's for. Have fun

690
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 6: down there. It's not for people we're on this live

691
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 6: right now. It's none of our business what's going on

692
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 6: in the chat. Our job is not to see something

693
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 6: in the chat and then respond or reform at or

694
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 6: whatever to appease that.

695
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 7: Those are for the comments.

696
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: That are for people who are watching this and discussing

697
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 6: it amongst themselves. And it's a respectable, great place, and

698
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 6: we thank God for it. We thank God for those

699
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 6: passionate reactions. We thank God for the views because it

700
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 6: keeps everything going. But there is a line of accountability

701
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 6: and and just just decency that a person has to

702
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 6: have and not be willing to go the extra mile

703
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: to make contact or make get yourself noticed or whatever.

704
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: It's just not have your fun, have a reaction to

705
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: the show, and be entertained and and and move on.

706
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 6: That's all we need to do. So it's tricky, but yeah.

707
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Before oh go ahead, I's gonna take something way.

708
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: I feel like we cannot wrap up pot on the conversation.

709
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: I don't.

710
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: I don't know. Have you talked about Karen.

711
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 7: No, we haven't.

712
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

713
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to make it too long, right, Like

714
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: speaking of authenticity and just like sharing real stories. I

715
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: do want Karen to come back next season. I want

716
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 4: Karen to address like what happened. I don't take glee

717
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: and that I don't find it entertaining. I actually find

718
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: it very sad to witness. But I do think that

719
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: Karen has the opportunity to take like hold like take

720
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: accountability and say, hey, I did this thing. This was

721
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: messed up. I put myself in danger, I put other

722
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: people in danger. This is how I'm going to do better.

723
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: I do think in all of my maybe reassessing of

724
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: like what I want from reality TV stars, at the

725
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: end of the day, these guys are stars, and I

726
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: think there is a real opportunity for a teachable moment

727
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: with drinking and driving, and everybody knows I love caring down.

728
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: I do not support this, but I think there is

729
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: an opportunity for Karen to come back next season and say,

730
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: or even at the reunion, I messed up, like I

731
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: had a drinking problem, or I have a drinking problem.

732
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 5: I'm getting to help.

733
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: This is not okay to do, like, don't find entertainment

734
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: in this.

735
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: This was not good, this was not cool.

736
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 6: I don't think it's nothing she can say after them

737
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 6: videos we saw over the weekend, because when I tell you,

738
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 6: our girl was on one that night and it just

739
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 6: was the reality of it.

740
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 7: Karen was drunk. She was drunk driving.

741
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 6: Thank God in heaven or whatever your belief system is,

742
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 6: Thank your sore that no one was hurt, that she

743
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: was not hurt, Thank God that the police officer, there

744
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: was no weird police shit between her and them, you

745
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 6: know what I mean. For the most part, Karen just

746
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: has to pay her debt to society whatever that looks like,

747
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 6: and move on from this in a healthier way.

748
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 7: But I want to know what she was taught. What

749
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 7: did she mean?

750
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: I want to know what you mean, you Thomas Jefferson's kind?

751
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: What was she Karen must that she was full of

752
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 6: mad dog or booms farm. She was drinking some old

753
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 6: that was one of them, good drunk, just down in it.

754
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 6: She was just feeling that shit, you know what I'm saying.

755
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 6: And I thought that that was hilarious.

756
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 7: So it wasn't funny. Poor Ray, bless us her.

757
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: Ray was trying his best to help her at that

758
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 6: scene with the police. He was trying his best, digging

759
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: for an idea or whatever, holding on that envio on

760
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: that bag without complaint. Right if we didn't think, I

761
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: know Ray said whatever he said on the show before

762
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 6: by I think so if I mean, if he's in

763
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 6: love with or whatever, damn it, we know now because

764
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 6: Ray was a ride or die. You know what I'm

765
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 6: saying for Karen and that that case, and it just

766
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 6: ain't nothing she can say. Karen just going this reunion

767
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 6: and be like, yes, I fucked up. I fucked up bad,

768
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 6: y'all all saw it. What do you want me to do?

769
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 6: I'm apologizing to my family and to the world, to

770
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 6: the officers, and that's it. Just say what you did,

771
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: take accountability, and then check each and every one of

772
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: them on those couches at that reunion to have their

773
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 6: own bones.

774
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 7: Ready to fall out the closet. That's what you do.

775
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: You take accountability, they don't make no excuses, and then

776
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 6: handle your business. And I also want to say, I

777
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 6: think it's utterly ridiculous as even being discussed that there's

778
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 6: rumors of her being fired for this. There's no reason

779
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 6: that Karen should lose her employment with who's the production

780
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 6: company over there, whoever it is? That Okay, Yeah, truly

781
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 6: you're losing your that's ridiculous. Karen does not need to

782
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 6: be fired or disciplined. This has nothing to do, if anything,

783
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: this is what we're gonna talk about on the damn show.

784
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 7: So she doesn't need to depart the show for this letter. Cook,

785
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 7: that's it.

786
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, no, listen.

787
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: So what I'll say is I'll echo the same sentiments

788
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: our thoughts and press got.

789
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: To Karen.

790
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's just something to where. Yeah, it

791
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: was we love Karen and I and I saw karens

792
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: the last week, the week before, I saw Cam before

793
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: and she was in great spirits. She was in great spirits.

794
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's a very it was very sad. It

795
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: was very sad. But again, listen, my priss brought to

796
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Karen and Ray and the children, and like just Dustin said,

797
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: we'll see Karen at the reunion. I do think they're

798
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: taping it very soon, so you know we'll be able

799
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: to hear her thoughts about this. But yeah, it was

800
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: very sad. It was very sad. Yeah, So we have

801
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: to talk about maritime medicine.

802
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: Jasmine tweet you on fire last night.

803
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this thing that everybody wants to address.

804
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: Let's let's just get right into it. So Contesta is bad.

805
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: Contesta is back as a friend up. So Contessa, as

806
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: we all know, was a main cast member for I

807
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: think like five six seasons if I'm not mistaken, maybe,

808
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: and she is now back as a friend to the show.

809
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: The cast went on a trip and things started tripping.

810
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: Jasmine, go ahead, child, I'm gonna say lots of thoughts.

811
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: Because Heavenly was so nasty for that. She was so nasty,

812
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: like that yo mama stuff. She's got in trouble for that.

813
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: But Contessa was trying to give her now like my

814
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: mom who passed away, My mom who passed away, and

815
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: she she stood on it. Disgusting And I will say

816
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: I do not condone violence, but as someone who has

817
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 4: a sick mother right now, if somebody was saying yo mama,

818
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: and we're in the heat of the moment.

819
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: I would have slapped the shit out of her. I'm

820
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: so sorry.

821
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: I do not condone violence, but that's a slappable offense,

822
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: like are you kidding me? That was so disgusting. And

823
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 4: then Heavenly talks all this, and then she was calling

824
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: for security. Heavenly, Heavenly stop doing so much. Stop running

825
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: your mom so much. If you know you're gonna be

826
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: calling for security, that's what you get. I think with this,

827
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: there were there were people who were saying both ways,

828
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: like what Contessa was saying to Heavenly was hurtful, but

829
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 4: keep it at the husbands, keep it, keep it there, like,

830
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: don't talk about somebody who's dead parent like I can't.

831
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: I can't get through that. I can't get over that.

832
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: And if I was contested, I would never ever speak

833
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: to Heavenly ever again, Like there would be never a

834
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: word that Heavenly could say to me. I don't care

835
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: if it's sorry, because you took it there and I

836
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: tried to give you one out to stop yourself and

837
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: realize what you were saying, and you dug your heels in.

838
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 4: I will never speak to her again if I was contesta.

839
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is and just I'll get to you too.

840
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: The thing is this, And I told Heavily this too.

841
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Heavily knows how I feel.

842
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like your mama jokes, that's me.

843
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 7: I don't like it.

844
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: My mom has passed away. I'm with you, Jazz in

845
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: terms of I just don't like your mama jokes.

846
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 7: I don't like your.

847
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: Mama jokes as a kid because I was a mama's boy.

848
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: So you talk about my mama, you know it's a problem.

849
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: This is my thing, this is my thing.

850
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: I just think your mama jokes or talking about someone's.

851
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: Mom, I just think you should keep it to each other.

852
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Like like leave the lead, the moms out of it,

853
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: the kids out of it.

854
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't even say that. I think it's one

855
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: of those things.

856
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Where if you and I, Jasmine, if you and I

857
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: are getting into it and I have a problem with you,

858
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to address you.

859
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dress your man.

860
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 7: I'm not going to talk.

861
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: About your I'm gonna I'm not gonna bring your man

862
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: into our our beef.

863
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: I think it's just stick to each other. If y'all

864
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: gonna go toe to toe, go toe to toe.

865
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: I I I don't like your mama Joe's I've never

866
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: liked it. I've said it to heavily before. You know

867
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: how I feel. And I love this heavenly and the

868
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: same thing when Candace said it to me a once,

869
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: and I love Candace, and I said, I just I

870
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: just think you, Yeah, I am somebody I have never

871
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: liked it, and I just, I just I just think,

872
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: leave the mothers, the children, and the husbands out of

873
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: the reeds and stick with each other.

874
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you say something about my mama or

875
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 6: dead or alive, and I'm I'm fucking your personally.

876
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

877
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 6: But that's me, so I totally understand it. I think

878
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: that it is worth noting right that Contessa was taking

879
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: some vera and y'all please excuse of course, here comes

880
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 6: the sirens of Harlem when I started speaking my peace

881
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: about this, but Contesta started a lot of that low

882
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 6: blow mud slinging that was going on. I guess that's

883
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 6: Heavenly coming to give me for I talk about.

884
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: Me.

885
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 5: She to me and queens don't.

886
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: But but I think that started a lot of that

887
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 7: low blow.

888
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: Shit when she was saying things. Let's let's zoom out

889
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: a little bit, because sometimes that to do right. Heavenly

890
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 6: and Contessa are an unlikely duo that became real friends

891
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: in real life, traveled together, intermingled their families, share personal

892
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 6: information like they were real friends. We know that for

893
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 6: Heavenly to have that sort of commitment to a relationship,

894
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: the the allegiance that she has like the doctor Jackie,

895
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 6: you know to people that she too quiet. You know,

896
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: through it all, she maintains a connection with her because

897
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: that fundamental relationship is important. That's sorarity when it comes

898
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 6: to what we've seen from Doctor Heavenly on this show.

899
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 6: She really cared about Contesta and Kintessa appeared to really

900
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 6: care about her when they started arguing on this week's episode,

901
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 6: Kintessa was saying some shit that were obvious low blows

902
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 6: because she's hurt. She resents Heavenly for speaking on the

903
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 6: details that she shared with her about her marriage when

904
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 6: she was at a low point with her husband, and

905
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: Heavenly held too tight to those things and started behaving

906
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 6: differently with Contessa's husband. With Kntessa, that's a grave mistake

907
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: that you make in a friendship. You got to keep

908
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: that separated, you know what I mean, And you have

909
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 6: to be the type of friend that knows how to

910
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 6: compartmentalize all of that. Unless a person's safety is involved,

911
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: that's a different conversation. But telling you details about your

912
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 6: man or whatever, you keep that in as a friend.

913
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 6: Heavenly crossed the line with that. Kintessa got back with

914
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: her man and was too. She wasn't ready to deal

915
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 6: with a recont of the embarrassment of kind of facing

916
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 6: and accepting standing in the shit that she said, so instead,

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: she thought it was smarter to just go at Heavenly

918
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: all no holds by. That's why we've seen guns blazing

919
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 6: from her for her to talk about Heavenly.

920
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 7: She said, you buy your kids.

921
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 6: You started, and she was yelling so that what she

922
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: was saying would be sure to be amplified on the

923
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 6: mics and be carried into the final cut. She said,

924
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 6: you know, you bought a beauty supply to love keep

925
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: your daughter's love, and it failed, It didn't succeed. She

926
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 6: was taking some real low blows talking about Heavenly's love

927
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 6: for her children, all that kind of shit.

928
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 7: That's why Heavenly started talking about that husband.

929
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: And to me, it's a full stop I'm by no

930
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: means excuse me what doctor Heavenly said about Contessa's mother,

931
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: her deceased mother. That was reprehensible, right, so full stop

932
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 6: wrong as hell. You wrong for saying that about her

933
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 6: deceased mother. But Contessa was slinging a lot of low

934
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 6: blows in that argument too, And I have a very

935
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 6: I have a disdain for people who into friendship with

936
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 6: someone and then take it to then try to use

937
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 6: the things you know to try to hurt them. To me,

938
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: that's just a nasty spirit that I saw surface. People

939
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 6: put that on Heavenly a lot, but we saw it

940
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: in blatant vorn from Contesta. Every scene we've seen her

941
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: in this season as a friend, she's letting us know

942
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 6: how much she can't stand Heavenly. I don't know if

943
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 6: that's to ensure, you know what I'm saying, her place

944
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 6: on the cast or what, but it doesn't look good

945
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 6: when you come off of that. I didn't like that.

946
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 6: I don't think that's who Contesta is as a person.

947
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 6: I think she's a very accomplished physician. She used to

948
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: talk about wanting to be the surgeon General. She had

949
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 6: lofty goals and like just a beautiful family, you know

950
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, a gorgeous home. There's so much more

951
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 6: to concentrate on than her bad clothes and her fighting

952
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: with Heavenly. So I just would rather, you know what

953
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, I would rather them figure that out

954
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 6: and Contesta just get back to being fun and lighthearted

955
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 6: as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. Every

956
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 6: fucking time we see her, it just becomes a lot. Honestly,

957
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 6: think she forgot. I think heavenly forgot that Contesta's mother

958
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 6: was passed away. In the heat of that argument, and

959
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 6: after it came out, instead of saying I'm sorry, I

960
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 6: didn't think I shouldn't have said that kind of owning it,

961
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 6: then she doubled down on it in anger, and that

962
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 6: was just flat out wrong as hell, just wrong as fuck.

963
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 7: There's nothing you can say why.

964
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Leave, Because the thing is this, you never know what

965
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: someone's mama is going through. Jasone just reveal her mother

966
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: is sick as of today, So me being somebody who

967
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: knows her mother is alive.

968
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: You know, if I didn't know.

969
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Jackson mama was sick just because I said your mama jokes.

970
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: That's why I just think. I just think this for everybody.

971
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: Leave the mammas and the daddy kids.

972
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Out of it. Don't talk about kids, don't talk about.

973
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, parents. And the thing with Contesta listen, I

974
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: love Contessa. I was I was sad she wasn't returning

975
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: to the show. The Contessa is definitely going low. That

976
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: what I loved about Contessa was Kintessa to me, being

977
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: a fan of the show, she always kind of rolls

978
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: above it a little bit without without being seen as

979
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: somebody who can defend herself. I don't like the low

980
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: mud slinging from Contesta because I agree with you that

981
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's her. And I know and

982
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Contessa Contessa is funny, she she's smart, and she.

983
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: Could get with you.

984
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: But I was surprised with some of the things Contesta

985
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: was saying, only because that's not the Contesta that I've

986
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: ever saw.

987
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 7: M h. It's clear, it's clear.

988
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 6: That's why it seems so forced and so like god damn,

989
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 6: like what why? Why is this what you're choosing to

990
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 6: do when there's so many other options here. So I

991
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 6: hope they figure that out. But to me, that's like

992
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 6: a point of no return. My mamma passed away. You

993
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: fuck with my family a lot. I don't care what

994
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: side of the ground they are. You messed with mine

995
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 6: at I love. That's a non negotiable, Like there's no

996
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: coming back from that. So let's see what that looks like,

997
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 6: you know, in the form of a reality show. I

998
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 6: don't know, but true, Yeah.

999
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be gonna be hard.

1000
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 7: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

1001
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 5: Oh no, I was just gonna say.

1002
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 4: Outside of that though, like we talked about what I

1003
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: want out of reality stars, this is a show. I'm

1004
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: riding with them to the will fall off. I love

1005
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: Mary Medicine like these I watched this show and I'm like,

1006
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: I want to be just like these ladies. When I

1007
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: get into like my fifties and sixties, like just beautiful,

1008
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: Like even when they get into the drama, like it

1009
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: feels like until this this point, it always felt like

1010
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: stuff that they could come back from. And that's what

1011
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: I've always loved about this show. So I'm gonna I'm

1012
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: gonna keep watching it. But yeah, if I was contested,

1013
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: I just I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

1014
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: But she might be in want of my forgiveness.

1015
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is that it's gonna be hard to

1016
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: see how they be able to navigate through that.

1017
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: So they haven't shot their reunion yet. One thing that

1018
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: we know Heavenly has done in the past that we've seen,

1019
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: she will apologize, for sure.

1020
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Heavenly apologizes to her, But like Jasmine said,

1021
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: it's an apology even enough, and and and that's something

1022
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: that we have to respect Contessa's boundaries.

1023
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 7: It's an apology enough.

1024
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: And listen on the on the other side of it,

1025
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: can heavenly possibly accept an apology when Contessa accused.

1026
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: Daddy of having was it mixed babies?

1027
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 6: Yes, she said, mixed babies with the possible last name

1028
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 6: of coms on the internet rumors bullshit that should have

1029
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 6: never made it to the final cut.

1030
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 7: But yes, yes, so can.

1031
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: Heavenly forgive her for putting out there that Damon may

1032
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: have side children when his kids have to listen to that.

1033
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.

1034
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: I think there's a certain things that if you're going

1035
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: to read each other, listen. One thing about Lenithia Monique

1036
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: Johnson Leaks and kimberly' zoziac.

1037
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: Those two used to ring.

1038
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: This down down to the ground Scharay and Needy raised

1039
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Rovert he you know what I'm saying, Like you lost

1040
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: your house, you lost they kept it. They kept it

1041
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: to each other, like let's go and and I think

1042
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: if the reality girls want to listen, I think go

1043
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: back to keeping it beeping with each other and leave

1044
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: everything else out.

1045
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent.

1046
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: Well, look, tonight has been fantastic. If it's everything I

1047
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: thought it would be any more, Mother.

1048
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1049
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1050
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,240
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1051
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1052
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1053
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1054
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: Carlos, I can't take any more?

1055
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Right, I have an announcement to make.

1056
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:16,439
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1057
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1058
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1060
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Speaker 1: you Dustin. Thanks for spending Monday night with me YouTube

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Speaker 4: You are too, Can I say one quick? Being really

1067
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Speaker 4: quickly Carlos?

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Speaker 1: get all of my visuals, baby, my expressions, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: don't forget Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about

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Speaker 1: this episode using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

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Speaker 1: an executive produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

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Speaker 1: Baby