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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure. I just every time I

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Speaker 2: hear that song, I think about Tony Soprano getting whack

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Speaker 2: in the in the in the ice cream parlor in Montclair,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey. Actually I think that's Montclair. I think it's Nutley.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I haven't listened to that

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Speaker 2: song in a long time, and I just think, poor Tony.

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Speaker 2: What not to be off subject here, but what a

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Speaker 2: crazy TV show? Right? We can actually take a ruthless

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Speaker 2: mobster and have everybody cheer for him and be depressed

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Speaker 2: when the guy ends up getting killed at the end

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Speaker 2: of the show. Oh wait, what if some of you

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Speaker 2: haven't seen the Sopranos. Whoops, I gave away the ending. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: In any event, thank you for stopping by today. I

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Speaker 2: just I tell you every time I hear that, that's

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Speaker 2: what I think of. So we've got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: things to go over and talk about today. I've got

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Speaker 2: an article about Automotive News talking about the six point

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Speaker 2: two liter GM engine failure and some of the other

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Speaker 2: things that are going on and what it takes to

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Speaker 2: replace those engines. We'll try and get to that. We've

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Speaker 2: got a bevy of phone calls, and let's get right

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Speaker 2: to the phones and get started at eight five five

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Speaker 2: five six oho nine to nine zero zero. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Brian in the Great City of Philadelphia, twelve seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry a seventeen Ford fusion, some questions about transfluid Brian,

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Speaker 2: come back, sir, how can I help you today?

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Speaker 3: Thank you ron real quick. The ice cream parlor was

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Speaker 3: holstoned in Bloomfield.

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Speaker 2: That's right there, you go. I knew it's right on

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Speaker 2: the board, isn't it right on the border of Montclair.

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Speaker 4: Though, Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Montclair is like a minute away or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so but yeah, I actually went there.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird to sit in that booth. You know.

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Speaker 2: My I would go down there once in a while

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Speaker 2: to visit some people and oh, let's go to let's

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Speaker 2: let's go, we go and have ice cream. We'd sit

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Speaker 2: in that exact same booth. And you know, they've got

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Speaker 2: a little plaque there, you know, Tony Soprano was off

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Speaker 2: here or something like that, if you get exactly what

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Speaker 2: it says. But yeah, just a weird deal. So what's

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Speaker 2: going on today, my friend? How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. I know, like we've you've talked

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Speaker 3: about this before. Unfortunately, the cars, a lot of the

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Speaker 3: cars today, the trans fluid they called you know, they

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Speaker 3: called to be changed in one hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 3: which most people know is pretty you know, a pretty

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Speaker 3: long liinted time and as far as you know, minus sealed,

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Speaker 3: you can't check the fluid or anything like that. So

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Speaker 3: it wasn't done. My mechanics is always trying to talk

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Speaker 3: me out of it. It's like, no, no, wait till

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty. So I'm like, I'm saying to myself,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'd rather just, you know, get it done.

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Speaker 3: My biggest question is this is the trans service. Would

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Speaker 2: Good question, So, at the risk of repeating myself, let's

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Speaker 2: start at the beginning. I think certain transfluids do not

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Speaker 2: have to be changed. And I'm still debating it in

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Speaker 2: my head. Some of the Chrysler products, the jeeps with

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Speaker 2: the plastic transpan, it gets expensive, right. Some of the

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Speaker 2: jeep transpans, the filters, the fluids. I've seen them go

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Speaker 2: out the door of our shop. I've seen them and

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Speaker 2: go out the door of other shops. Seven to eight

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars to service a transmission. It seems exorbited. But

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Speaker 2: the fact is there's you know, eighteen twenty ball to

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Speaker 2: pan down. The fluid's not cheap. Eight nine speed transfer

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Speaker 2: fluid from Chrysler's a fortune. It's an expensive it's an

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Speaker 2: they say there's no value in changing trans fluid because

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Speaker 2: it has no effect on the transmission. The transmission can

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Speaker 2: compensate for the varied viscosity. And what was the word

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Speaker 2: they used, tractionability. I thought that was a new word.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up at Websters. It's not there, but

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Speaker 2: I get what they're saying. They're saying as the fluid

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Speaker 2: wears out, the transcompensates for that, until the trans wears out,

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Speaker 2: and then you put a trans in the car for

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Speaker 2: seven grand. I still think changing that fluid at fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand miles on most of these vehicles, fifty to sixty

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Speaker 2: is probably the cheaper alternative. The question becomes, you know,

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Speaker 2: will it be cheaper? I still think at one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand to two hundred thousand miles most carts

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Speaker 2: take a transmission, I just do. That seems to be

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Speaker 2: the number. I think. If I was driving your fusion

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Speaker 2: to get to get back to your exact question, I

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Speaker 2: would have changed the fluid at fifty and every fifty thereafter.

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Speaker 2: I think the one hundred and fifty thousand mile fluid service,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a lot

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Speaker 2: of hate mail, and I'm gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 2: the you know, internet trolls that say, no, wrong, You're wrong.

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna tell me, Oh, Mike, trans has one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight thousand miles on it, I've never

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Speaker 2: serviced it. Yeah, great, you got the one. Uh you know,

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Speaker 2: show me, show me, show me the proportionate ratio of

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Speaker 2: how many of them go to that one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand mile mark and beyond. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 2: more than one bulletin on certain model Lincoln mks and MX's,

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Speaker 2: and that trans translates into the fusion and the other

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Speaker 2: Ford models that are sys that are similar to it,

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Speaker 2: that are wiping out torque converters. Why because of trans fluid?

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Speaker 2: The trans fluid is breaking down? What does Ford have

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Speaker 2: you do? They have you put converters in, they have

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Speaker 2: you put fluid changes in? When do those failures occur?

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Speaker 2: One hundred thousand miles? So you know, where's the where's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand mile mark phenomenon?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Come from?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Why I think marketing's involved? I think marketings involved Brian

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Speaker 2: you know, if that car puked the trans at one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty and it was six grand to replace

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Speaker 2: the trans, would you do it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? I mean I would rather know change the fluid.

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Speaker 3: But what really It's interesting because my two thousand and

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Speaker 3: five Tauris call for the trans fluid to be drained

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Speaker 3: and filled every thirty thousand, in which I did. My

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Speaker 3: niece on Ultimate called for it. I think it's fifty

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Speaker 3: or sixty. But they always said, with that CBT you had,

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Speaker 3: there's no way around it. You must you know nis.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely how to do it. Absolutely that would fail. So

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Speaker 2: if we're talking about your fluid at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: nine thousand miles or whatever the heck you got on

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Speaker 2: it first time through it first time, first time through,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do a drain and fill, all right,

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Speaker 2: because because I don't want to shock the system. All right.

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Speaker 2: If this was Hey, you know, the car's got forty

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Speaker 2: nine thousand miles on it ron, what do I do?

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Speaker 2: I tell you, let's do a fluid exchange, all right,

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Speaker 2: not a flush, a fluid exchange, all right. We use

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Speaker 2: Mala fluid equipment at the shop. We actually use their

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Speaker 2: fluid pro at X two eighty, which is one of

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Speaker 2: their newer trans fluid machines, works really well. And basically

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Speaker 2: what it is, it's sort of like the go between.

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Speaker 2: You hook one side up to the cooler, in the

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Speaker 2: other side to the and you and it processes fluid

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Speaker 2: through and back and adds and you're able to exchange fluid.

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Speaker 2: It's an exchange. It's a one for one exchange. If

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Speaker 2: there's a dipstick, we could do it through a dipstick,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's not pressure. Pressure denotes you know, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: A flush denotes pressure, and I don't like pressure used

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Speaker 2: when I'm talking about transmissions because that tends to stir

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Speaker 2: up sediment and crut and create issues internally in the

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Speaker 2: trans At one hundred and nine thousand, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: a fluid draining fill and then I'm gonna come back

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Speaker 2: in five or ten thousand miles and do it again.

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Speaker 2: And it's not that hard to do, Brian, It's not impossible.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not easy for you to do it yourselfer.

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Speaker 2: But for the mechanic, once he's got the car up

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Speaker 2: in the year, he's gonna open it up. It's either

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Speaker 2: going to be a fill port and checkport in the

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Speaker 2: front of the transmission over on the left side, or

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be behind the driver's side wheel. There's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a ten millimeters eleven millimeter plug that comes out

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Speaker 2: and you can check fluid level there and fluid color,

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Speaker 2: quantity condition, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't think you could check it at all.

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Speaker 3: I figured, yeah, now you can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you can't. Mechanics can. If you talk to manufacturers,

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Speaker 2: they'll tell you. The reason they went to the more

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Speaker 2: difficult way of checking trans fluid is because they didn't

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Speaker 2: want consumers to add incorrect fluid to the transmissions. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a marketing I think it's a marketing thing. Brother.

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Speaker 2: I think they all sat there and they said, we're

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Speaker 2: building them so good they're not going to break. So

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Speaker 2: this way, if we make it so nobody can service it,

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Speaker 2: they'll drive it till it blows up and then just

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Speaker 2: go buy another one.

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Speaker 3: My four dealer would tell me that, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Really believe it, because it doesn't make sense. It really doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you have my two thousand and

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Speaker 3: five tarists call for thirty thousand. This culture one fifty.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's a I mean, that's a big difference, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you start to look at what they're

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Speaker 2: doing general motors, for example, their ten speed transmission, they

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Speaker 2: put the they put the torque converter, which is the

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Speaker 2: fluid company between the engine and the transmission. They put

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Speaker 2: it into mechanical lock for everything. Turn the air conditioning on,

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Speaker 2: lock the converter, change gears, lock the converter, downshift, lock

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Speaker 2: the converter. Why you can read the bulletins they talk

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Speaker 2: about for enhanced customer performance and satisfaction. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: they work the trans to death. You know, everything you

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Speaker 2: do with the transmission creates what heat, what breaks down

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Speaker 2: fluid heat because of the trans to fail heat. So

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Speaker 2: guess what we're giving you enhanced customer satisfaction and performance

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Speaker 2: until the trans blows up? And then what do you get?

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Speaker 2: Heat from the customer? So he's evolved in a lot

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Speaker 2: of this. Right, It's just.

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Speaker 3: It's a lifetime transfluid. But what's how do they define

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Speaker 3: a lifetime one hundred and fifty thousands the life of

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Speaker 3: your transmission. I mean it's it's a lifetime, but.

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Speaker 2: Right, it is lifetime if the trans fails at one

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Speaker 2: hundred and nine thousand miles. That was its lifetime, right, right,

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Speaker 2: So if you if you go buy a if you

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Speaker 2: go buy a craftsman tool from Sears, I'm dating myself

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Speaker 2: and you'll live to be sixty nine years old, that

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Speaker 2: was lifetime. If I live to be one hundred and two,

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Speaker 2: that was my lifetime. Everybody's got a different lifetime, right,

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Speaker 2: We've all got different expectations. Brother, mechanics, I always have.

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Speaker 2: He may be you know, he may just be afraid

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Speaker 2: but all kinds of special stuff in the sleigh this year.

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Speaker 2: No really well, but anyway, just to let you up.

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Speaker 2: Brad and Iowa fifteen Nissan rogue and some heat issues. Brad,

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Speaker 2: we got to fix this. It's too cold in Iowa

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Speaker 2: this time of year. Sure is, Yeah, tell me the story.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've got a friend of mine that's got a

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Speaker 6: air throughout the vents. The events are working. They're blowing

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Speaker 2: But just so position, position direction works. You can direct

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Speaker 2: hot air absolutely. Okay. Does is this a split system?

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Speaker 2: Can you make the driver's side one temperature, in the

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Speaker 6: You know what? I'm not sure on that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which, by the way, I think is a stupid

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Speaker 2: But okay, let's just complicate things anyway. So any recent

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Speaker 6: Well, I do know the car was bought from an

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Speaker 2: Mean somebody else couldn't fix it either, So.

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's do this all right? What experience do

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Speaker 6: I am an autobody to mission. I've been doing bodywork

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Speaker 6: for about thirty years, and I just get kind of

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Speaker 2: So let's let's do this logically, all right. First question

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Speaker 2: you own a heat gun, by chance, a thermal A

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Speaker 6: You know I don't, and I've been always wanting to

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Speaker 2: Here's the reason. Here's the reason, brother. You know what,

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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you. I was down at

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Speaker 2: You look at some of that stuff from Harbor Freight

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Speaker 2: just got a display temperature and I would look at temp. Right,

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Speaker 2: And for the sake of this conversation, I'm gonna plug in.

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Speaker 2: I need an OBD two scan tool. I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: own one of those, Yes, yep, Okay, go look at COOLANTEMP.

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Speaker 2: If the thermostat is supposed to open, we'll make up

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Speaker 2: some numbers. At one hundred and ninety five degrees and

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Speaker 2: I'm happy with that. Driving down the road. It shouldn't

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Speaker 2: go much below that. I'd like to see it maintain

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Speaker 2: cause it's cold out there, right, come back. Upper hose

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Speaker 2: is hot system circulating, it's full of coolant, there's no air.

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Speaker 2: All the usual caveats that you want to go and check, okay,

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Speaker 2: What I don't want to see is I'm one hundred

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Speaker 2: real good core. It's not uncommon for these cores to

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Speaker 2: be restricted, Okay. They they tend to get scally and creddy,

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Speaker 2: we can backflush the core safely and correctly. All right,

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Speaker 2: then I want to know, you know, are the so

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Speaker 2: the air door motor physically move. So while you're at

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Speaker 2: Harbor Freight, you're gonna love this. You get to go

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Speaker 2: buy yourself a borscope. If you don't an own one,

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Speaker 2: because either that or you're gonna shove your head under

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Speaker 2: Have you been doing Have you been doing bodywork for

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Speaker 2: I'm running ady in the car doctor eight five five

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Speaker 5: This the street to the open tonight. If you're ready

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Speaker 2: You know that's kind of got the Hulla Blue seven

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Speaker 2: You know. By the way, Tom, you didn't comment, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that Arnold Schwarzenegger thing going. So this way,

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Speaker 2: Dennis in New Jersey. Dennis, I hope you have a

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Speaker 6: Hey, I have a beard.

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Speaker 7: I have no complaints.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting. You know, it's that little I got

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna be that Arnold Schwartzenegger of radio.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, I have.

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Speaker 7: A twenty eighteen Volkswagen Tigu one se getting an error

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Speaker 7: message keyless entreat faulty. I brought it to the dealer

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Speaker 2: Scary, isn't it?

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Speaker 7: Extremely? Extremely You know.

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Speaker 2: This is how it's funny. At the end of the

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Speaker 2: Space Shuttle, Dennis, No, but I've seen right, I think

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Speaker 2: you're driving one. So just just let you know where

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 7: Now, I bring it to the dealer, I tell him

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Speaker 7: They take the car in, the guy comes out and

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Speaker 7: Then they turn around and tell it and I asked them,

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Speaker 7: It's got a message on the dash there's got to

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Speaker 2: A reasonable now, Dennis, you're being reasonable, A reasonable question.

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Speaker 7: So I don't think the guy even trouble shot shot it.

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Speaker 7: The door on the pass send your side with the

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Speaker 7: something like that, not an eight hundred dollars module. I

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Speaker 7: And a direction.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem, right, Volkswagen, and they're infinite wisdom of

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Speaker 2: We've got all the answers and where the best there

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Speaker 2: is limits what the aftermarket can do without a serious

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Speaker 2: a little tricky, all right, You are you are spot

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Speaker 2: on right. If you've got a keyless entry module, aero

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Speaker 2: fault on the dashboard, ninety eight percent sure, and I

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Speaker 2: it's like a B one twenty two D twenty nine

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Speaker 2: language like we're launching missiles, all right, because this is

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Speaker 7: No, the only problem is it's not something I need.

429
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Speaker 6: Six.

430
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 7: The only problem is that this car beats every twenty seconds.

431
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 7: It's beats, and the error message pops up, the error

432
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 7: marriage goes away nether twenty seconds and it's just annoying

433
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 7: and you can't turn it off.

434
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: Right, No, you can't because it's it sees a fault,

435
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: which you know, I think you have to go back

436
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: and ask them. So in your logic, you're telling me

437
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: a car that beeps every twenty seconds and displays error

438
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: messages on the dashboard has no fault code to give

439
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: you some kind of diagnostic direction, you know, and then

440
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: we can see what kind of geniuses they are. At

441
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: that point where I would be looking all kidding around

442
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: the side, is you know I see cases of broken

443
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: wiring in the door jams. It's like a it's like

444
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: a sixty three Chevy, except it's not right where the doorjam,

445
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: wiring gets broken, where the wires start to break and fray.

446
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: As complicated as they make it, it's still simple stupid

447
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 2: stuff half the time that causes the failure. Where did

448
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: he Where did he come up with a module error? Well,

449
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: because he's probably looking at it on a scan tool.

450
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: I would hope he's looking at it on a scan

451
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: tool and he can't communicate with the driver's door module.

452
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: You know why the wires are broken? You know, I

453
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: mean it would be logical to me. I just you know,

454
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: it's yeah, I just you know, it's modules don't fail.

455
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean they fail, But good good lord, You've got

456
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: to go through some basics, power ground, serial data? What

457
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: can I talk to? What can I talk to? And

458
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: I think your question to them is will this eight

459
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: hundred dollars module fix my problem? And and you know

460
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: that's language in any case, right Dennis, you and I

461
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: have talked over the years. It's a it's a matter

462
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: of you know, it's it's it's will this fix my problem? Well,

463
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: if they give you the two bitch shuffle and they

464
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: step from foot to foot, you know, and we're looking

465
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: at the ground, you know, maybe we're not you know,

466
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: maybe we're guessing here, you know, and that's what we've

467
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: got to go look at. So I think I think

468
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: a code scan is more than reasonable. Heck, on a Volkswagon,

469
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: we code scan on oil changes just because we don't

470
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna find. You know, they're just again,

471
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: it's the Space Shuttle, brother, It's it's not a simple vehicle.

472
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: So I think if you want to get it fixed,

473
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a code scan. Will this fix my problem?

474
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Can you do the programming because the dealership's got to

475
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: program it. And what's the total cost gonna be? Did

476
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: you own the car since new?

477
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: Yes?

478
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so no accidents right, the car has never hit,

479
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: No body work ever done to that driver? Yeah? Okay.

480
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: You know, you know I would start to think about,

481
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: like I said, connectors and you know, I driver's door wiring,

482
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: harness problems, and that's that's typical. That's more common than modules.

483
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: I'll say it like that.

484
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 7: Do you think a body shop would be more able

485
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 7: to fix this than the dealer?

486
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: No? I think a shop that is going to have

487
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: programming capability. And that's the trick. And I know where

488
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: you are in New Jersey, I don't know anybody that's

489
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: that in depth on Volkswagen other than the dealer, because

490
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: of the costs involved in the programming nature of the

491
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: of that particular repair. And I think if somebody tells

492
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: you they can do it, I'd want to see their

493
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: equipment and know that they can do it, because this

494
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: is this is like going to Cedar Sinai for for

495
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: open heart surgery. You want to make sure they can

496
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: complete the operation, not get halfway through and go oops,

497
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: which is a bad thing to hear from a mechanic

498
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: or a doctor. You know, Whops means a lot of

499
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: different things.

500
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 7: So all right, sir, well, okay, thanks Ron, welcome to us.

501
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: Good luck and enjoy your German car. I'm sorry to say,

502
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say what v W means. Tom's

503
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: dying to hear me say v W means virtually worthless,

504
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to say it, not here on

505
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: radio eight five five five six nine nine zero zero.

506
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: The car Doctor's coming back right after this. Well, and

507
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: here we go once again. Let's uh okay, I'm done, Okay,

508
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: thank you, Let's go to uh Seanan Vermont Sean. Yes, sir,

509
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Ron and ding of the car Doctor at your service.

510
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: How can I help?

511
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 6: Hey?

512
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: Ron?

513
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: How are you, sir?

514
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: I am good, sir, I am very well. How are

515
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: things up in Vermont today?

516
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: A lot of snow, A lot of snow, very cold?

517
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how how cold is it? Make the

518
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: rest of us feel better?

519
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: Well?

520
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: It was four below yesterday morning, it was eleven this morning. Above.

521
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: Look at all the money, see Sean talking to you.

522
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 2: It's it's it's twenty eight degrees where I am, and

523
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: look at all the money. I say, I don't have

524
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: to go to Florida now, So you just make me

525
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: feel better. So how can I help you today? My friend?

526
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for taking my call, obviously,

527
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: and Tom is awesome, yep, yep.

528
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: One of the many one of the many reasons we

529
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: keep Tom around. As a matter of fact, if you

530
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: go to if you want to see something really neat,

531
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: if you have Facebook, go to the Ronanini and the

532
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: Car Doctor Facebook page. And I took a picture of it.

533
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: I posted today's office view the working set up Tom

534
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: put together so we can do remotes now from anywhere

535
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: in the world. And you know, we've got ideas and

536
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: we're talking about do we take this thing on the

537
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: road and how far out do we go? But it's

538
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: it's a pretty magnanimous view of what he created. Tom's

539
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: one of the best. Tom is the best radio engineer

540
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: in the business. I should say so. But yeah, on

541
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: to your question before I run out of time, I'll

542
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: talk about Tom. I can talk about Tom for minutes hours.

543
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, what's going on?

544
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two Kia Sportage.

545
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Okay, and there it is. I knew that was coming,

546
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: so go ahead, Sean.

547
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: So I purchased it certified pre owned, and prior to

548
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: actually buying the vehicle, I wanted to make sure all

549
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 4: the safety recalls were cleared up. So I had a

550
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: toe hitch recall on the vehicle, the toe hitch harness.

551
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: So they cleared that up, and then five thousand miles

552
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: or so later, I went in for my oil change

553
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: and they had said everything was it's good to go.

554
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: Love the vehicle, but the right rear lamp was out.

555
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 6: Needed to be back up the backup lamp.

556
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, the assembly which was one hundred and seventy

557
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: five dollars.

558
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: So is the right rear lamp assembly? Is it the

559
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: backup lamp? The brake light the combination light that whole mix, yes, sir, okay.

560
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: And is it an L A D or a bulb assembly.

561
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: It's a bulb assembly, all right. So I opted not

562
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: to get that fixed at the time, but I went

563
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: in six months later for an inspection and they said

564
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: the other one was out, so okay. So I did

565
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: a little, you know, research on the internet whatever that means.

566
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: But they said sometimes that can be damaged by a

567
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: technician during the toeitge recall. And I'm just wondering if.

568
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: I get listen, anything's possible careless mechanics and so forth.

569
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: But what I would want to read and this is

570
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: why you look, this is why you love me, Sean,

571
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: and this is why you're called I've run across this.

572
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: I want to go read Kia Technical bulletin to wait,

573
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: what does that say about a company? Did you read

574
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: to ninety nine and they talk about the software update

575
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: and the combination lamp replacement? Yeah, yes, sir. And have

576
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: you considered that.

577
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: I thought they had you know, uh, I'm registered with

578
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: Carfax and I thought all the recalls were taken care of.

579
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think I want to specifically asked

580
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: that question because if it hasn't been done, it should

581
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: be done. And if it has been done, it was

582
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: done within the last two years, right, yes, sir. So

583
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: if it went bad again, what didn't you think it

584
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: would be under warranty?

585
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: I would think right, because the repair was over six

586
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: hundred dollars.

587
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Right. So I think your argument is this is you

588
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: talking to the service writer. So you're telling me your

589
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: three year old car that you replaced the tail lamps

590
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: in somewhere in the last two years, had a problem

591
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: with more tail lamps and the software fixed on bulletin

592
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: two ninety nine didn't work, And you think this is

593
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: a reliable car that I want to keep for the

594
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: next five years. See what he says to that, right.

595
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: Well, ask him about Bulletin two ninety nine and the right.

596
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Because there was a software upgrade and a lamp inspection

597
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: and that was part of Bulletin two ninety nine.

598
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: He let's sad it'd gone before I bought the vehicle.

599
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: Well you think you did? You're not sure? I would

600
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: want to make sure. Listen, because now I gotta go

601
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: Sean real quick.

602
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: Right.

603
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: Everybody gets a chance to prove who they are and

604
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: what they are in life, whether you're fixing cars, dating

605
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: or doing business in general. All right, here's the moment

606
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: where you bought a car six months ago. It's a

607
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: CPO car, certified pre owned, right you said that. That

608
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: means that they give it the utmost care and the

609
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: utmost consideration. I don't think this is a problem for

610
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: them to go back to key and say, hey, we

611
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: need to make Sean happy. Somebody's got to take the initiative.

612
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: If the service writer doesn't give you the right answer,

613
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: go talk to the front of the horse and find

614
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: the service manager and see what sort of answers he

615
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: gives you. But you want to inquire deeply about bulletin

616
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: two ninety nine, I'm running Indy in the car Doctor.

617
00:32:47,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: We're a back right after this. You know, I hate

618
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: this part of the show. You know why, because that

619
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: means the show is almost over. And this is where

620
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: the pressure really lines up, because I've got about two

621
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: minutes to say something really witty and enticing that makes

622
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: you want to come back for next week. Yeah, I

623
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: don't think I could do that. I will say this

624
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: thuff in all seriousness. I think more and more about

625
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: this radio show. Another year is about to go by,

626
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 2: and it's thirty plus something years we're doing this, and

627
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: of course we have those moments. You know, you don't

628
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: want to stay on too long, right You always hear

629
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: that in show business, you ever want to stay on

630
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: too long? And is it time to go? And Tom

631
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: and I have talked about it the last two years,

632
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: and we just keep getting those cards and letters from

633
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: all of you, and the responses, and you know, you

634
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: make us feel like we are still needed. And I

635
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: think that's reason enough. I tell my family that I

636
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: will stop doing radio when I'm no longer relevant. And

637
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: judging by the response we get from all of you,

638
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: I guess we've got a lot of relevance left. So

639
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: just as a thought, I wanted to really take a

640
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: moment and say a sincere thank you and let you

641
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: know we appreciate each and every one of you, even

642
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: the ones I argue with, even the ones that break

643
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: my chops. We have to go back and forth a

644
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: little bit, because that's what makes radio and life interesting.

645
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Speaker 2: Just as a reminder, if you want don't forget cardoctorshow

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