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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by Brett three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today

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Speaker 1: is our week seventeen, Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Milman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are coming

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Speaker 1: off of a three and two week in our contest,

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Speaker 1: folks coming down and to the final days. We'll give

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Speaker 1: an update on that in a few minutes. We did

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Speaker 1: not have a Sunday show. It was Christmas Eve. We

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Speaker 1: all spent it with family and friends, as we are

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. We definitely were not sweating games. So

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Speaker 1: here's a very brief recap of winners, losers, good calls,

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Speaker 1: bad calls, big balls. Bet of the Week we went Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: The line when we made the call was plus two

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Speaker 1: and a half. The line moved to three and a half.

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Speaker 1: We were on the two and a half. We apologize

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Speaker 1: if you bet it in that moment. We hope you

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Speaker 1: got the three and a half. Eventually, exec decision, which

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Speaker 1: was a nanosecond of just calamity on my part. San

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Speaker 1: Francisco minus five and a half and moments later Simon

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Speaker 1: walk me back, but because the graphic could run and

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Speaker 1: at San Francisco minus five and a half, Simon says,

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Speaker 1: Carolina plus five. Nice job, Simon, Foxhall Atlanta minus two

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Speaker 1: and a half. Didn't matter. We got it done, okay.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we will of course get to our

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Speaker 1: finalize our big Balls Better than Week, our foxhol our survivor,

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Speaker 1: our moneyline parlay. Don't forget this episode. We will look

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Speaker 1: at the entire board. As we begin narrowing down. The

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Speaker 1: five picks will enter in the Favorites Podcast one hundred

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Speaker 1: we are weeks away from giving the first place winner

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Speaker 1: contest given away. Forty g's let's bring in my co host,

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Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, Michael Padre, professional better, Simon Hunter

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Speaker 1: et Oh, Simon Simon Flowers Flowers, Flowers, Flowers. We were

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Speaker 1: right on the Ravens plus five and a half. You

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Speaker 1: never wavered, you walked me back. We had the Panthers

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Speaker 1: three and a half in the contest, got all those.

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Speaker 1: We were wrong on Arizona plus four and a half,

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Speaker 1: Dallas plus one and a half. Just for housekeeping purposes.

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Speaker 1: It was a tricky contest this week because Dallas got

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Speaker 1: up to two and a half in the contest, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't change the lines because Carolina and

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Speaker 1: Arizona had moved to three and a half. We liked

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Speaker 1: That was one of the last ones out. Didn't like

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Speaker 1: couldn't get you there in New England plus seven and

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Speaker 1: a half, which surprised me a lot. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: you're Keenans. Your professional acumen, your clear eyed assessments kept

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Speaker 1: me from making a massive emotional square mistake, and for that,

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Speaker 1: I salute you. Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fun weekend.

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Speaker 3: We had some great games, probably one of the best

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Speaker 3: weekends of Lions fans lives. Right, first division win in

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Speaker 3: their history. They never won the North before, which blew

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Speaker 3: my mind. I didn't realize that. But the last time

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Speaker 2: Ninety three, So yeah, that was just really cool.

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Speaker 3: As of a long suffering fan until I won a

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Speaker 3: super Bowl, it was the highlight of my life. I

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Speaker 3: feel like this is their super Bowl, right, they finally

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Speaker 3: won their division. They took it down, and they did

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Speaker 3: it the right way, like they built through the draft.

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Speaker 3: I mean two rookies, I think their first team in

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Speaker 1: Then they did draft defensive guys, who were like, why

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Speaker 3: It's just crazy where it's like they used their early

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Speaker 2: So yeah, fun, fun weekend of Betty.

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Speaker 3: Thank god we got the three and two brother because

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Speaker 1: this episode description. All Right, We're almost there. Tyreek Kill

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Speaker 3: I'm still it's MVP is Betting is very dumb. And

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Speaker 3: You know, it's probably still right there with Purdy and

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Speaker 3: we keep talking about Josh Allen, it's he's sitting right there,

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Speaker 3: like I had someone like Shi go spend this Lamar

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Speaker 3: is set in stone here. It's such a hyperbodical year

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Speaker 3: where the MVP is one week. I mean, Evan just

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Speaker 3: put in our chat eight different players have been at

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Speaker 3: least co favorite this season won the award. It's just

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Speaker 3: been that kind of year where there is no Peyton

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Speaker 3: Manning throwing for five thousand yards or Lamar having fifty touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Like Lamar doesn't have the numbers. Go look at Lamar's numbers.

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Speaker 3: They're not there because he gives the ball to Gus

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Speaker 3: Miami everything it plays out. We talk on the times

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Speaker 3: So just never any lessons in life, And that's the

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Speaker 2: Just an incredible story.

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Speaker 1: Well, it would be great if they ended up playing

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Speaker 1: point under dollars. On Saturday last week. Our first instinct

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the human element, right, They just won their division.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got golf crying. I know the border

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Speaker 3: do it. I'm pissed at Dallas. They fucking choked Dak

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Speaker 1: Right this next game. You know, I'm away, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not in a place where I could legally bet. So

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Speaker 1: two is two and zero against Lamar. This line has

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Speaker 3: A true sick guy, I only really remember my bad

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Speaker 2: It might have been last season.

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Speaker 3: We had the Ravens pretty big, and I think they're

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Speaker 3: just there. The Dolphins were dead. No one's betting them.

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Speaker 3: It is weird how Lamar plays against Miami. I don't

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Speaker 3: So now they're traveling after playing a late game Sunday

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Speaker 3: That was a huge win. They needed that win against Dallas,

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Speaker 3: Wanted to make this, Sigmon says, but why rush it?

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Speaker 3: Why not let the public keep hitting this number and

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Speaker 3: come on it. But yeah, this number was three, what

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Speaker 3: So not ideal. With the Wattle injury. Wattle had a

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Speaker 3: keep track on that. That's obviously a big deal for

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Speaker 3: everything about it. We always talk about we don't we

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Speaker 3: like Lamar as a dog. We don't like him as

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Speaker 3: profitable betting that, So yeah, again not making it. Simon says,

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Speaker 3: gonna overreact to a great Ravens game. The Ravens had

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Speaker 3: There's so many times they've been sloppy in games where

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Speaker 3: But we'll trust McDaniels to get the scheme right this

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Speaker 1: Lamar twenty two and thirty one against the spread, is

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Speaker 1: And I think the more the Ravens get become the favorites,

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Speaker 2: And we've seen that over his career.

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Speaker 3: it's just you're buying at such a bad price point.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to miss out on this. It's the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: best team. Don't overreact. Please don't buy their futures.

432
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Speaker 1: And bet them for one Super Bowl Tennessee at Houston.

433
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: Houston's a three and a half point favorite. Look, c J.

434
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: Stroud is expected to be back. Ryan Tannehill was truly

435
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: awful often this past week.

436
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: Right then, man, Yeah, it's.

437
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: They're really terrible. I remember earlier in the year we

438
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: talked about I think we did it. I did a

439
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: favorite YouTube Film Room exclusive on how bad their offensive

440
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: line was because I thought somebody was going to kill

441
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: him like they he just pummeled and that happened again

442
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 1: this past week. Part of it is him right, like

443
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: he's not as mobile as he used to be. He's

444
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: not making like he got he should have gotten rid

445
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: of the ball, like at the end of the game,

446
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: they had chances to get down there and tie it.

447
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: I know we bake on Varabel, but this is not

448
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: a good spot for him or his team. A defense

449
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: that could not stop Geno in the fourth quarter completely

450
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: blew this game. Here's the reason why we do back

451
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: v Abel. Home faves in the division since twenty fifteen,

452
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: forty five percent. Last five years, forty three percent got

453
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: a lot of home faves. We got five home favorites

454
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Speaker 1: in the division this week. This game is one of them.

455
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

456
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: I honestly, as much I want to be on the Titans,

457
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to be. My issue is that they've

458
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: had back to back weeks, have just given it all,

459
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: and they lost back back games by three points. It's

460
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: like when does not that they're going to give up,

461
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 3: but it's like, what what do they have left? Like

462
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: they've given it all two weeks in a row and

463
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: they've just been you know, dominated, and they're facing a

464
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: team here that's getting their hero back, like they're getting

465
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: CJ back. The fear is what damage has happened to CJ?

466
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: In the sense of, you know, it's it's weird and

467
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: you miss a couple of games special when you have

468
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: a head injury and you kind of don't feel the same,

469
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: you've lost your rhythm a little bit, and you're coming

470
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: back into it. So I want to be all over

471
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: this number, just a little hesitant to it. I want

472
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 3: to read more from beat right out Sea how CJ

473
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: looks at practice and things like that. But just a

474
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: little hesitant just because it is an injury to his

475
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: head and he's coming back from it, an injury that

476
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: took two over two weeks.

477
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 2: He missed two games because of it.

478
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: Like that's really serious compared to you know, most times

479
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: they forced these guys in, especially the quarterbacks, right unless

480
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: it's really serious, they're gonna set them out. So that's

481
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: the fear here is that it should it be an

482
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: injury that he probably should just sit out the rest

483
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: of the season, Yes, it could be, but he's not

484
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: because they're trying to mean the playoffs, Like that's a

485
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: huge deal, especially for a young team like this, to

486
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: make it into the playoffs and build off of that

487
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: going in next year. So can't fault them for getting

488
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: them back in there, can't fault him for getting his

489
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: own way back in there. And I just don't know

490
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: if I trust the number because of all those surrounding

491
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: issues right.

492
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Speaker 1: Now, Jeb Another, I agree with you. I just don't

493
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: think you know in years past. Something feels off about

494
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: Vrabel in the second half of the year, Like I

495
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: don't know if to talk about is this the end

496
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: of the rain for Derek Henry? Is this team transitioning?

497
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: Is he not a buyer? And Will Levice is he

498
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: thinking about the Patriots job? Who knows, But there's something

499
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: that feels sort of different about the way this team

500
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: is playing as we get into the latter half of

501
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: this year. So I'm less confident about sort of our

502
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel podcast positions than I think I was even

503
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: earlier in the year when these seemed like they were locks.

504
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: Even though he did it this past weekend. Right, another

505
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: division home favorite New didn't let at Buffalo. Buffalo is

506
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: minus twelve. I said in the intro, I'm surprised I mentioned.

507
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: We didn't get to chat before we put in the picks.

508
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: It was just busy for the holidays. But we were

509
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: texting and I mentioned New England plus seven and a

510
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: half twice, and I was surprised you didn't bite on that,

511
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: because it's normally a game that we'd automatically put in,

512
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: but you didn't. You didn't want to do it once,

513
00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: let alone twice. And it feels like, in sir, circumstance,

514
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: like this is in situation, this is the right side

515
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: for the Pats. But now I actually hated so much

516
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: more than I hate it than I liked it last week.

517
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I'm afraid of this Buffalo team

518
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: right now.

519
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly want to take the Patriots, but I

520
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: don't get why it's so big, Like we would have

521
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: taken the Patriots if this was ten. Right, it's weird

522
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: that it's twelve twelve and a half in a lot

523
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: of books. Weird line because the Bills, yeah, as good

524
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: as they are, they can't stop turning the ball over

525
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: like Cook kept putting the ball on the ground. I mean,

526
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Josh Allen for some reason can't help but throw a

527
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: pick every game. It's bizarre where the Bills are really good,

528
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: but they're going to keep teams in it if they

529
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: just keep turning the ball over. And New England's defense

530
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: this is why, I mean, Chad hates on a. Belichick's

531
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: the goat, like he's got a team playing hard from

532
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: still even after that three game run of when their

533
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: defense was giving up no point and they couldn't win,

534
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: like they just I can't get over how good of

535
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: a coach Belichick is. And it's like funny because he's

536
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: such like the dinosaur style of like like that clip

537
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: of Bailey's Acty coming in hugging I think it was

538
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: O'Brien and then he sees like Belichick and he gives

539
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: him this like real serious look and like shakes his

540
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: hand and like it's just.

541
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 2: Bill is just so old school.

542
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: He's he is truly a dying breed where it's like

543
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: there's every coach now feels like a player's coach, and

544
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: he is the furthest from it. Where it's like It's

545
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: crazy how this team plays for him. So I want

546
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: to take it, Chad, I want to take the twelve.

547
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: But you're right where it's like, this is usually a

548
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: spot where the Bills just blow them out, right, especially

549
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: after a huge win they'd just had in Buffalo.

550
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: Such a letdown spot for them.

551
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: That gets a billste and that played really bad and

552
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: had a lucky win against the Chargers. Is it back

553
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 3: to back weeks, They're just going to totally lay an egg.

554
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: The Bill's like, that's what happened last week, right, The

555
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Bills just laid a total legg.

556
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: That's why that game was close.

557
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, like situationally, that's what I'm thinking about, right,

558
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Division favorites, bad spot. But the Bills had their trap game.

559
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: Their trap game was traveling to La playing a backup

560
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: quarterback and a deckcad situation against the Chargers. They needed

561
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: to win this game desperately. It was an ugly, challenging game.

562
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: They won it. The Patch just got their emotional win.

563
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: So now we've got Buffalo going back, a clearly superior

564
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: team in terms of talent. It just feels like they

565
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: could run them over.

566
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, just scared of Ben and that big of a

567
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: number on a bill steam. I love to turn the

568
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: ball over.

569
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, who we love at the New York Giants.

570
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: This lan's moved, which is interesting to me. The Rams

571
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: have been exactly the team that we've loved all season

572
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the past several weeks. You were all over them before

573
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: the season began, won five of their past six games.

574
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: They're only lost that squeaker to the Ravens. We were

575
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: on the Rams. They are now Ravens, who have proven

576
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: themselves to be probably the best team in the league.

577
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: We've talked about the Rotuna Cooper Cup, but it's really

578
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: Kyvin Williams. He's been the difference maker as he was

579
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: early in the year. This numbers moved went from six

580
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and a half to six. It's a little surprising to

581
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: me because the things that you think would give the

582
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Giants an advantage and make the wise guys like the

583
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Giants do not exist. Their rush defense is terrible. Before

584
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: this weekend, they were one of four teams to have

585
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: given up two thousand yards rushing already this year. And

586
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: that's what the Rams are going to do. They're going

587
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: to have Kyvin Williams just run, run, run, and make

588
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: it open for everybody else. So this RAMS teams feels

589
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: juggernautish right now. But it's a bad number and a

590
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: bad spot, so I'm torn. Simon Hunter.

591
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: Simon says, take the New York Giants.

592
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: Simon says, do it.

593
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: We do what science says? Wow, let's go baby. Yeah.

594
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: The reason this numbers move because I've just been hammering chad.

595
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: Man classic trap spot for this RAMS team, such a

596
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: letdown spot against a team that I mean, the public

597
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: is not going to be back in this team, right,

598
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: we want to know who the quarterback is going to

599
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: be the Giants.

600
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: But actually kind of.

601
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: Like the Giants matchup defensively against this RAMS team and

602
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: then offensively, I really like it because I mean they

603
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: run everything out through the back, right, like it's all

604
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: based through Saquon. The RAMS team, you know, as good

605
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: as they've played, their secondary can still be torched, right,

606
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: And we've seen this team and the Giants be you know,

607
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: two yards in a cloud of dust or they just

608
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: throw bombs, doesn't matter if it's de Vito or if

609
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: they're bringing Tyrod Taylor, They're gonna tack down the field.

610
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: So this is a matchup where like this can be

611
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: on our money line around Robin, every teaser everything. Just

612
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: like last week with the forty nine ers, this is

613
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: the same thing this week with the Rams, Like everyone's

614
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: gonna be all over this team, all their teasers. It's

615
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: just feels like a little bit of a sucker bet.

616
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: And again we're not always been that be on these ones,

617
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: but it's like, you bet this spot on the Giants

618
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: long term, this is a sixty percent winner, Like this

619
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: is just something you play time and time again and it's.

620
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: Gonna win long term.

621
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: And it's just such a letdown spot for this Rams

622
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: team because guess what they have after this game, the

623
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, And it's just such a clear look

624
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: ahead where it's like, yeah, this matters.

625
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: They need to win this, right, they want to.

626
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Be a higher seat in the playoffs whatever, you know

627
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: their thing about that forty nine ers game, like that's

628
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: a big deal to this team and this offense with

629
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: you know McVeigh has been the little brother to Shanahan,

630
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 3: Like it's just the way their relationship has been.

631
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: So I love it, I really do. I like love

632
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: that this number.

633
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: I thought was gonna get the seven, But like you said, Chad,

634
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: it's like the pros game and they hit it down.

635
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: I joined them.

636
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: It's just like, as soon as I saw this numbers

637
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: that was six and a half, It's like, okay, this.

638
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: This number is way too high. They should be closer

639
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: to four and a half. Four.

640
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: But the Rams, like Chad just said, they're they're the

641
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: most hyped up team right now. They're playing so well.

642
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: They had these really good close games with you know,

643
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: the Ravens. Like everything, it's just everyone drinking the Rams cooly,

644
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: like they're the scariest team head into the playoffs. The

645
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: NFC of like, yeah, I don't want to play them

646
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: as an Eagles fan. Like their weapons, they have an

647
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: offense like Stafford's making these crazy armyming throws, and you know,

648
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: it's just I hate it because they're my favorite team

649
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: this year, the Rams, Like I love them all season.

650
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: I've loved ben them. They're just my darling.

651
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: But this is a fade week and then we'll pick

652
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: them up next week against the forty nine ers.

653
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: But I have to fade them this week.

654
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say about this I agree

655
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: with with all of this is I feel like a

656
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: lot of these numbers this year, more than years past,

657
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: have been floating higher as we got closer to the game,

658
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: and then they've been settling at six or thirteen, and

659
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden comes Sunday, the public comes

660
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: piling in more than we've seen and the number goes

661
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: back up to seven.

662
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rear miss, but I mean a great

663
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: example last week. I gave Carolina Simon says a five

664
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: to five and a half half and I close it three

665
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: and a half, so obviously didn't matter, laid it on three.

666
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: But it's nice knowing they could have missed that two

667
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: pointer and it didn't matter where. It's like, well, it

668
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. We have the five and a half. We

669
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: already have that built in, so kind of.

670
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: A similar spot too, Yeah, similar.

671
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Spot, right, So yeah, it's I do feel bad about it,

672
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: Like that Tennessee one like you brought up. I had

673
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: a ton of money on the two and a half

674
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: and two. Luckily I did buy on the three and

675
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 3: the three and a half, But it's like those are

676
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: always tough and you get the bad number, like you said,

677
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: So this one, I just I can just see it

678
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: coming down because the pros are gonna love this spot

679
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: for the Giants.

680
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: It's just sucks.

681
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: It already moved from six and a half to six,

682
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: but I just want to grab it just in case

683
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: it does dip down a five and.

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: A half San Francisco at Washington, Washington plus thirteen and

685
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: a half right now with bet three six five. Look,

686
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers still need to win out to

687
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: keep the number one seed. We don't know who the

688
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: QB will be for the Commanders yet. Ron Rivera hasn't

689
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: a now normally a huge road favorite, not a good

690
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: spot for Kyle Shanahan. You have to wonder if things

691
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: are different after losing it home the way they did,

692
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: and you just have to wonder, is this Commander's team

693
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: done with two games to go in the year and

694
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: they know everything's going to change. Yeah.

695
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: I would say the biggest fear if you're a Fortinis

696
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: fan is your team has lost their swagger, Like you

697
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: lost that we're untouched, moor and beatable. That's a real

698
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: confidence that team had. Now they feel human, and that's

699
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: a scary thing where it's like they don't have four

700
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: or five weeks to get it back right. They got

701
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: two weeks before the playoffs kind of picked the worst

702
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: time for the forty nine Ers to have that kind

703
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: of game or it's a rallying point where it's like,

704
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: all right, we got embarrassed, we know what our weaknesses are.

705
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: They go out, they blow out this Washing team by forty.

706
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: They go and dominate the Rams the final week, and

707
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: it's like they're the one seed and who cares about

708
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: that Ravens game.

709
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: They don't got to worry about them until the super

710
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: Bow if they do see them.

711
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, big big game for the forty nine ers

712
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 3: in the sense that I want to take Washington.

713
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: This is such a.

714
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: Bad letdown game where it's like, you're right, Chad. The

715
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: Washington team though the fear is like they know it's over.

716
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean that they gave it all in that Jets game,

717
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: they still fell short even with Presett in that game.

718
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: It's like, man, Washington is so bad, Like the forty

719
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: nine Ers matchup wise, should dominate this team in every way,

720
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: Like everything they do good, Washington is really bad, especially defensively,

721
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: like they got nothing defensively.

722
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: They can stop anything the foreigners can do offensively.

723
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, if we're going big dogs this week, there's

724
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: other dogs that'd rather take than this one, right, So

725
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm happy to pass on this one. But just be

726
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: careful people, if you're just blindly betting the forty nine ers.

727
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: Here, it's like it's a little stinky of a number.

728
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's actually the perfect contrast to the

729
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: next game on the schedule, which is Arizona at Philly.

730
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Philly is a ten and a half point fait it right?

731
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Philly won yesterday, But interestingly, at eight am this morning

732
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: the number was at twelve. It's been bet down to

733
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: ten and a half. I like this morning, when I

734
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: was looking at my notes and putting together the script,

735
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to make Arizona my exact decision at plus

736
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: twelve because the Eagles didn't look that good against the

737
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Giants that fumbled to start the second half the turnover

738
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. I feel like Arizona is undervalued after

739
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: the Bears loss, and I do think just watching a

740
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: lot of that game, Arizona will watch that game as

741
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: players and think, oh my god, we had so many opportunities.

742
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: And I think that the one thing they have to

743
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: their advantage that probably didn't work against the Bears that

744
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: does work against the Eagles is Trey mc bride in

745
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: there as a tight end. Is really starting to play well,

746
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: and that's a pretty good way to attack the Eagles.

747
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: In the middle of that, they're defense, and it's not

748
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: a good way to attack the Bears. So I can

749
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: understand why the wise guys have been betting Arizona in

750
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: this game.

751
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it feels like Eagles are just like the Bills,

752
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, they got a ton of talent,

753
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: but they can't stop turning the ball over. And the

754
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: Egles easily should have blown the Giants out, and they

755
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: had some really stupid funbo to start the second half

756
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: with their own guys running into each other, and then.

757
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: The Hurts pick six six.

758
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: It's just is it bad luck or these teams just

759
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: are what they are? Like, are the Bills and the

760
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: Eagles the same team where it's like tons of talent,

761
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: but they play slopping, they turn the ball over and

762
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 3: that's what's going to burn them whence they have the playoffs.

763
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: And that's why it feels to this Eagles team it's like, God, well.

764
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it with the Chiefs too.

765
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: Like you watch against the Raiders, I think they are

766
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: what they are At this point, you're sixteen games into

767
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the season, seventeen weeks in sixteen weeks into the season.

768
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: You are what you are, and it's not you are

769
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: what your record says you are. You are with tape

770
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: shows what you are, and we've seen it consistently. We

771
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: kept waiting for this Eagles team to get better offensively,

772
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: to get better defensively, to sort of get beyond losing

773
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Gannon and Shane Steichen, and they kind of haven't yet,

774
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: and so they're not going to.

775
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly though, it's the defense.

776
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: I think the bar is so high for the offense

777
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: that like Herts is putting up you know, twenty four,

778
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: twenty seven points every week, but people are still going

779
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: to bash them. It's just like the expectations so high

780
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: that that's just how it is where him And it's like,

781
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: you know, you see guys they play through these injuries

782
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: and they're not as good as they were the year

783
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: before when they were super healthy.

784
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Like Trevor Lawrence.

785
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: The guy has a bad leg, a bum shoulder, and

786
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: a concussion and he's playing like shit these last couple

787
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: of weeks. I mean they were eight and three, now

788
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 3: they're eight and seven or whatever it is. It's just like, yeah,

789
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: they're trying to play through injuries. It's not ideal, Like

790
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: you're playing through injuries against got the best players in

791
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: the world. Like it's just you're gonna look shitty. Your

792
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: team's gonna suffer when you're not on your a game.

793
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: And whatever's wrong with Hurts, you know, his body might

794
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: be a little banged up. A lot of it's mental,

795
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: like he's making these little mental errors of forcing into balls,

796
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: forcing balls in the areas where you don't need to,

797
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: Like there's open guys, find your open read instead of

798
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: trying to force.

799
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: It in and just make one read and throw it there.

800
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is just I'm with you on it.

801
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: Where it's like I like the Cardinals. The fear is

802
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: the Eagles are like the souped up version of the Bears.

803
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: Like what the Bears do offensively with you know Field's

804
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: being able to scramble, that's what Hurts can do as well,

805
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: and that's what you saw Like Arizona, Yeah, they couldn't

806
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: get the Bears off the field because of that, Like

807
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: they have no one on that d line that has

808
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: any type of speed or rushing ability to really shut

809
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: down any quarterbacks. So Arizona is yeah, like what are

810
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: the second worst team of football. They've earned it. They

811
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: are dog shit on defense, and their offense is all

812
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: Kyler and Connors right, Like, if they don't have a

813
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: running game, they're kind of dead. And the Eagles, that's

814
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: one thing they can do well stop a running game,

815
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: but you can pass on them. So your love of

816
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: the Cardinals here is warranted, just because, just like the Bills,

817
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: It's like if the Eagles turn the Bowl over two

818
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: or three times, Cardinals are easily going to cover this number.

819
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: Like you're just going to give them short fields and

820
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: put Color in the position to score and attack this

821
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: bad secondary. So I understand you. You want to make

822
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: it your exect decision. I wouldn't hate if you did.

823
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: It's just it's a spot I'm probably going to have

824
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: to play the Cardinals.

825
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I moved on when the number moved. I moved

826
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: on because there's a couple other games that I'm.

827
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: Even moved that much. You don't like that I moved

828
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: from a twelve to ten and a half eleven.

829
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Simon, It's like I just saw it.

830
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, not a stickler, you know. As

831
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: a reminder, it is an the list we're gonna have

832
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: to talk about it again on Thursday. Right now, the games.

833
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: We got to talk about it again on Thursday. By

834
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: the way, the Giants plus six Arizona plus ten and

835
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: a half. As a reminder for the second time, you

836
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: can catch every episode of The Favorites live on YouTube.

837
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,279
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838
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: a like and subscribe to the Action Network YouTube page.

839
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: All Right, New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is

840
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: a three point favorite, and I hate to say it,

841
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: it may be time to fade elite NFL quarterback Baker Mayfield.

842
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: Can't do it.

843
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: Four wins in a row, back to back masterful performances.

844
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: It's like Division Favorites at home. We have the evidence.

845
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: It's a spot. Like dude, dude, we're going to get

846
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the sharp calls on Thursday, and we're going to be here.

847
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: I alread you can tell you early sharp calls. I

848
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: talked to a ton of guys smashing this the same spot.

849
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: You have to.

850
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: You can't, though.

851
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: My argument to them is, it's fucking Dennis Allen, Derek Carr.

852
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. I don't care. I agree like

853
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 3: old Simon, I would love this. But the new age man,

854
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: the man that is so sick of Derek Carr and

855
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: how with him and Dennis Allen. This is an emotional bedroom.

856
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: You're like, I know the number is going to say

857
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: too when I go through the model on this one.

858
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: It's like, this is such a spot to play the Saints,

859
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: but I'm not fucking doing it. And like I just

860
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: I've talked to five guys and each each one of

861
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: them brought up the stats and how they love them

862
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 3: this spot. It's just like, I don't know. It feels

863
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: like they're walking into it. I'll join the public, Jos,

864
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: and I'll die on the Baker Hill. I'll take Baker Hill.

865
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: You know, if they win this, do they lock up

866
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: the division? Is this that decides the division? If it is? Like,

867
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: I just love it. I love the story, I love

868
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: everything about it. I'm prepared to be miserable back in Baker.

869
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: I am shocked, me too shocked to hear this. This

870
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: goes against every thing we've discussed together for five years.

871
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: I know I can't do it.

872
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield a one million dollar bonus for winning the

873
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: NFC South, which you could do weekend. I don't know,

874
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know because on you know, on Thursday,

875
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: this could end up being the Foxhall Jackson Jackson.

876
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: I just know I'm gonna get a lot of calls

877
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: with the Saints. I just feel like I'm not I'm

878
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: not gonna budget. I just I can't do it. It's

879
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: like it's like Detroit. Last week. I was on Detroit.

880
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: I knew Detroit. I got bullied fucking all week, just

881
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: a lot of shit talking to me. It's like, how

882
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: are you back in Detroit?

883
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: Here?

884
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: They always losing this spot every now and then people

885
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: we see history and I'm gonna back Baker and seeing

886
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: something crazier. I just I can't believe we're in the

887
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: spot where Baker might win the South.

888
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Detroit to me, actually made more since last week.

889
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: And I'm bummed that we did get laid off of

890
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: Detroit because like it basically was any of the circumstances

891
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: that we worry about with Jared Goff didn't exist. The

892
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: only thing was about the blitzing. But I thought we

893
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: I think we felt their offense was so good and

894
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: so healthy that it didn't matter, and that they've actually

895
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: haven't been as bad as every injuries.

896
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't think you know, I don't think you were watching.

897
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 3: The Vikings had like big injuries to their defense during

898
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: the game.

899
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: You know we got at the end of the day.

900
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: I think we got Nick Mullen.

901
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And we're going to talk about Mullen.

902
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: If you want to get Derek Card do you want

903
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: to get Derek Carr? I really get Baker Mayfield.

904
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Caroline at Jacksonville, I'm surprised this line is going up.

905
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: Uh.

906
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: You know we went up from six to seven. Uh.

907
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Watching the Panthers this past weekend, I kept thinking to myself, A,

908
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: the Panthers are at home. They played better there, because

909
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: in the beginning it looked like it was just going

910
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: to be a loss for us.

911
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense was terrible.

912
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: Then I remember that Bryce Young is in stellar against

913
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: the spread in the second half this year. Thanks to

914
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Evan Abrams for that stat. Bryce Young, there are a

915
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: couple camera shots, is a tiny, teeny teeny human being.

916
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: He just doesn't belong in an NFL field. It's amazing

917
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: to me how much he's been balling out these past

918
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: few games since Frank Reich was fired, and the Jacks

919
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: can't get it together, Like, why did this number go up?

920
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me.

921
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the Panthers are that bad. I will give

922
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 3: flowers to how tough young is. You know, just coming

923
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: into the year, I just thought when I call him

924
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: the QB position, I was like, there's no way this

925
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: guy is gonna last this season. Think of all the

926
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: hits he's taken and he's lasted. I mean it's crazy.

927
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: Like the Panthers, they're a line can't block. He's getting

928
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: crushed every week and he's lasted. Like it is crazy

929
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: to think all the other he's got hurt, none of

930
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: them lasted. He the smallest one, has lasted this whole season.

931
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: Pretty pretty incredible, Like that guy is obviously toughest shit.

932
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: He's a gamer. I can see why. Like they got

933
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: sucked into a fell in.

934
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: Love with him.

935
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Like he's got a great personality, he's likable, hard working,

936
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: but like you, just like you said, he's so small

937
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: out there when you see him around these other guys,

938
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: especially his linemen, It's like, this guy is so tiny.

939
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know how he's gonna hold up for

940
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: this whole career, especially all.

941
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: The hits he's taking. Now just just brutal. So yeah,

942
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: I want to take the Panthers. Need to talk to

943
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: some people because I need to know who's moving this

944
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: line on the Jaguars and what they know.

945
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: But the Jaguars suck and they got injuries, and.

946
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: You know, if it was fully healthy all their wide receivers,

947
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is fully healthy, Yeah, I would love the

948
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: Jaguars here. It's like they would torch this Panthers defense

949
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: at home. But they're just not the same teams they

950
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: were or five six weeks ago.

951
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: They just had terrible injury luck.

952
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: And you know, Trevor keeps trying to play through these

953
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: injuries and he's just not right. I mean, he looked

954
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: down right awful in that Bucks game. So if it's CJ. Bethard,

955
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: maybe this makes more sense the line movement. But I'll

956
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: take I'll take the Panthers plus seven if it's seven

957
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: and a half in our contest, like no brain or play,

958
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: didn't didn't want to, didn't plan on backing the Panthers

959
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: three weeks in a row, But here we are, Chad.

960
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: I know, honestly, this also was almost the exact decision,

961
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: and I thought, am I really going to say to people.

962
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: We're back in the Panthers three. I know, but his

963
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: number just feels too big. It too much against the

964
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville team that is that is flailing and we honestly

965
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get next week.

966
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: At the question the staff from Evan, what do you say?

967
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: See since week thirteen, so that's when Trevor is leive

968
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: he got injured. He's nineteen or thirty six qbs and

969
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: EPA per play, and he's twenty seventh in completion percentage.

970
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: So it's just his yes.

971
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: Hasn't been the same. I still owe an exec decision.

972
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: This also almost met the land in Chicago. I think

973
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: this is the Justin Fields Bowl? Right? Will he remain

974
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago? Will he be traded? Will the Falcons be

975
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: a potential landing spot? This week, all the rage in

976
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: the Chicago land text chains were did you see that

977
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like to tweet that said the Bears should

978
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: keep Justin Fields? Everyone speculating that Caleb Williams does not

979
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: want to go to Chicago to be their next quarterback. Now,

980
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: even without that, I kind of lean the Falcons here.

981
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bears are overvalued after last week. The

982
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: one thing the Bears can't do is turn the ball over,

983
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: and they were lucky enough to only do it once

984
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: last week. And the one time they did, Arizona ran

985
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: down the field and made it a game for about

986
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: ten minutes. So I feel like three is just too

987
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: much against an Atlanta team that's less something to play

988
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: for that is much more talented Arizona. So my lean

989
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: is Atlanta.

990
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.

991
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: I want to take the Bears just because Atlanta they're

992
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: frauds themselves, Like, yeah, they they beat up that Colts

993
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 3: team last week, but that was more of a Colts

994
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: letdown spot.

995
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: Wasn't it. It was just a class those teams.

996
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I don't That's why I'm not

997
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: making the exact decision, by the way, because I don't

998
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: believe Atlanta can can play consistently two weeks in a row.

999
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially we've seen them. They're splits from indoor to outdoors,

1000
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: and you know, heini key, he's gonna he's gonna burn you.

1001
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: And now he's going to get into a Bear's team

1002
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: that loves to turnover quarterbacks like it's what they do.

1003
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: So well, Yeah, just i'd be bummed as a Bears

1004
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: fan where it's just like if you guys had just

1005
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: traded for Sweat, it feels like in August, I feel

1006
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: like your whole season might have been a little different,

1007
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: Like Sweat.

1008
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: Made that much better, so.

1009
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: Much better everything, like everything, He's even you know, you

1010
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: guys went out and got two linebackers who have been,

1011
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: you know, all right, but when Sweat got in there,

1012
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: it made them go from all right to being what

1013
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: they should have been, which is like absolute studs all

1014
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: over the field. Like they've really changed. He's really changed

1015
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: that whole defense. So the Bears are playing really well. Man,

1016
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: Like this number it's a little fishy because it's like

1017
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: I want to be with the public and smash the

1018
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: Bears here and I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take

1019
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: the two and a half, I'll take the three, and

1020
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: I assume this will go up to three and a half.

1021
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: It's just it feels a little low here. It's Heinikey

1022
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: on the road with Atlanta team that you know, they

1023
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: haven't they've had their own injuries where the Bears, other

1024
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: than I think DJ Moore might have got banged up,

1025
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: they got pretty they're pretty healthy. After last week, like

1026
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: they're not like all these other teams, I've had a

1027
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 3: bunch of injuries. The Bears really haven't had those major

1028
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: injuries across their team these last couple weeks. So yeah,

1029
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: the Bears, I'm buying high, Like this is as hig

1030
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: as it gets, probably.

1031
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Very high, very high. What's going on with you?

1032
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: I know, I'm.

1033
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: No, I'm just the public has been winning, like you know,

1034
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm trying to see it from their standpoint

1035
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: of The bookmakers have been laying some ship numbers, and

1036
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much faith in these

1037
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: bookmakers where it's like, you know, this feels like a

1038
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: ship number. Like the Bears when they don't turn the

1039
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: ball over, they're pretty damn puffed to beat, Like they

1040
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: got a pretty stout defense and they have one of

1041
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: the best weapons in football.

1042
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: And Justin Fields offensively.

1043
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: And like the reason they sucked during the year was

1044
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: because Justin Fields wanted to prove he was a pocket passer.

1045
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: Where it's like, dude, be like lamar, use your legs

1046
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: when the pocket breaks down, there's no shame in running

1047
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: and picking up five six yards And it feels like

1048
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: he's been free since coming back from that injury a

1049
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Like he's playing more loose. He's

1050
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: he's running the ball instead of just standing in the

1051
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: pocket taking stupid sacks, which he did from week what

1052
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: one through six? So yeah, I can't believe it. I'm

1053
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: joining the public and on another one, I'll buy the

1054
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: Bears here.

1055
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. That's two seasons in a row. By

1056
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: the way, where last season they had a terrible loss

1057
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: to the Commanders, went into the by after the buye

1058
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: it seemed like Luke Getzi and the offensive staff saw

1059
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: what the Eagles were doing with Jalen Hurtz and tried

1060
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: to mimic that with Justin Fields and then the Bears

1061
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: were great, not great, but like perform better in the

1062
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: second half. This is how low the expectations are. If

1063
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: the Bears are a competitive I.

1064
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: Think they won one game with the second the Bears

1065
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: are competitive.

1066
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: If they lose ten in a row, that's still optimistic

1067
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: for Bears fans. And this year the same thing. They

1068
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: came into the season with high expectations. He doesn't play well,

1069
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: he's making a lot of turnovers, gets injured, comes back,

1070
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: and they start using him in a more natural way

1071
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: that plays to his skill set, and this year they

1072
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: are winning. I'm away with both of my kids right now,

1073
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: my wife, and this morning one of my kids said

1074
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: to me they were doing a draft of the worst

1075
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and he said, can you name

1076
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: five teams worse than the Bears? And I actually I

1077
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: think I could.

1078
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Easy.

1079
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: So, uh that's how bad it's gotten. It's like the

1080
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: Bears aren't even the worst team anymore.

1081
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: Staff from Evan best defenses since Week nine, the Vegas

1082
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: raid is the Chicago Bears and Cleveland. So Chicago Chagog's

1083
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: defense man, they've been, they've been legit.

1084
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, I totally agree. Las Vegas at Indye.

1085
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of Raiders, Indy is a three point favorite. I

1086
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: just don't trust this Vegas team and I.

1087
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: Know they No, No, you gotta you gotta take Colts here.

1088
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: Don't even think about what do you need to break

1089
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: this one down? Keep it simple, stupid, Take the Colts.

1090
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 3: Who cares if it's Joe Public. Vegas had two touchdowns

1091
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: from their defense and their quarterback didn't have a completion

1092
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: after their first quarter, and they still blew out the Chiefs.

1093
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: Yes, fade Vegas will take the Colt too.

1094
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Seattle Seattle minus three and a half. Both

1095
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: teams overvalued in this spot. I don't love Geno against

1096
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: the defense. I don't love Rudolph on the road after

1097
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: last week. I have no vision for this game.

1098
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: No. I like Seattle like I love what I've seen

1099
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 3: from in the last two weeks. Incredible comeback win again

1100
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: from Gina where.

1101
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was gonna do it.

1102
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be in his own head,

1103
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: Tennessee's defense that played really well, and he did it

1104
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: man like that. That was crazy, Like the bad back

1105
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: to back winning drives from two different quarterbacks on a

1106
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: team that's pretty damn special. Like again, this year has

1107
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: been so weird. We've had these incredible moments. And that's

1108
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: another one where it's like Seattle, they're a feisty team.

1109
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: If they're gonna ride this high into the playoffs. We

1110
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: all know they're not that good. We all know their

1111
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: weaknesses they have and how the inconsistent this team is.

1112
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mason Rudolph, he is not good.

1113
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: Like this man they've had on their team for what

1114
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: feels like ten years, but it's probably been three or

1115
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: four years. But he's been there forever, and there's a

1116
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: reason they keep him at third and fourth string. There's

1117
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: a reason that you know, they paid a joke of

1118
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 3: a quarterback in Mitch Trubisky a shit ton of money

1119
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: because they didn't trust Mason Rudolph. And yeah, he had

1120
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: a good game. You really want to bet on him

1121
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 3: having back to back good games. Now on the road,

1122
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: facing that twelfth man in Seattle, having to have a

1123
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: silent count the entire game. No, don't, don't do it

1124
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: to yourself. They're not buy the three and a half.

1125
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: Take the minus three and a half. Don't let the

1126
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: hooks carry you off. I'll back another home favorite in Seattle.

1127
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: Here, I'm looking at our list, like, what a contrast

1128
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: of completely sharp plays and totally square plays right now?

1129
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: In the Giants.

1130
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: They're all sharp. You got it. You'll come around on them.

1131
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: Arizona. I put down New Orleans plus three.

1132
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: We're not fucking putting New Orleans plus three.

1133
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: Carolina plus seven, then the Colts minus three, Seattle minus

1134
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: three and a half. Maybe I'll put the Bears in

1135
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: there just to have Yeah, it's fun. Chargers at Denver.

1136
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Denver's five and a half. Right now. If there was

1137
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: a time I would want to back Sean Payton, it's

1138
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: in this spot, like a tiny little chance off of

1139
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: an embarrassing loss in which his team was outplayed. He

1140
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: was out coach that gave away all the momentum they

1141
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: had built up in the middle of the season. The

1142
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Chargers had their dead cat bounce right they were at

1143
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: home against Buffalo, they had their shot, almost pulled it off.

1144
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't like the number. I don't like the fact

1145
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: that the division favorites play so badly against the spread

1146
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: the past decade, the past five years, But I do

1147
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: like the Broncos in this spot.

1148
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and shockingly, somehow, the Broncos are still fighting for

1149
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: their division.

1150
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: Right.

1151
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: Pretty crazy to think one of the dumber bets I've

1152
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: ever made might actually hit because the Chiefs have just

1153
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: been an absolute trainerick this season. But yeah, Chad's right,

1154
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to be on the Chargers but didn't

1155
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: get there. No, and the numbers just shouldn't be this low.

1156
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: If it was seven to seven and a half like

1157
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: the Patriots number, Yeah, I get there, but at five,

1158
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: it feels.

1159
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Like the value is on this Denver team that you know.

1160
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: Like Chad said, they're just a team that can't stop

1161
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: shooting themselves in the foot, Like they'd be probably ten

1162
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: to eleven wins by now if they just didn't make

1163
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: so many stupid mistakes all season. So yeah, scary betting

1164
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: on Denver team with this bag of my number. But

1165
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: it's even worse back in a Chargers team coming off

1166
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: last week, where it's just they're over valued like this number,

1167
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: this number should not be this low just because the

1168
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: Chargers had a bunch of turnover luck against the Bills team.

1169
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Chad, I'll back Denver here.

1170
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: Uh speaking to Chargers, I mean speaking of Chiefs. Cincinnati

1171
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: isn't that away seven point underdog on the road at

1172
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City. The number opened at eight, moved down to

1173
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: seven and a half, even in the last couple hours

1174
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: has moved from seven and a half to seven, so

1175
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: lines are moving. The Raiders won this game because of

1176
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: their pass rush. Aidan O'Connell had less than sixty five

1177
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: yards passing mahomes when he had his full complement of

1178
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: receivers and wasn't basically teaching them rudimentary skills when Travis

1179
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Kelcey wasn't playing, was playing at like his peak Travis

1180
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: Kelcey level. Patrick Mahomes as a favorite of more than

1181
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: a field goal was under five hundred. Now he's not

1182
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: getting any of those things. And now we're talking about

1183
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift curses. This team's in trouble, not like not

1184
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs kind of trouble, but they're

1185
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who they are offensively.

1186
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, a great Evans that I saw. This is where

1187
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: you can't take too much away from divisional games. I

1188
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: try not to react to the divisional games. Patrick Mahomes'

1189
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: career loss is a double digit favorite. He has one

1190
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: against all their teams, so he's twenty one to one

1191
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: against the Raiders. He is two, he's three and as

1192
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: a double digit favorite in his career straight up.

1193
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: So it's crazy.

1194
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: It's bizarre, But that's how these divisional games are for

1195
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: some teams, right, Some teams just match up well and

1196
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: have other teams numbers. And that Max Crosby thing with

1197
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Mahomes is real. Like I don't know if you remember

1198
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: that NFL doc when they did it. Yeah, like that

1199
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: was real beef. And you know, every play you watch

1200
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: with Crosby anytime he touches them every little thing. He's

1201
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: just always bugging them all game. And it got to Mahomes.

1202
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is anyone's.

1203
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: Brand or person.

1204
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: I take a bigger hit this season than him, Like

1205
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: he not that he's a whiny little bitch, but he

1206
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: can be a whiny little bitch. Like he's on the

1207
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: sideline bitching, complaining, and he got Kelsey come off the

1208
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: field throwing his helmet and like they're just they're this

1209
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: team that just felt like.

1210
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: You know, there're about to be a dynasty, right.

1211
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: They have just incredible talent across the board, and it's

1212
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: all falling apart a little bit, Like there's just so

1213
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 3: many things wrong with this offense and how how bad

1214
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: they are, and just Mahomes, who's the best quarterback in football,

1215
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: can make these incredible plays, make all these guys miss

1216
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: do all this crazy shit, and then this guy just

1217
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: drops it and like even Kelsey's having bad drops. You know,

1218
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: thirty four years old. I get he's gotten older. I

1219
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: don't know if that's what's the blame here, Like, I

1220
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: don't know if you can just blame his age because

1221
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: he is getting open, but he's having bad drops where

1222
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: he's doing like little stupid plays that's just not very

1223
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: Kelsey type. So all the doubt everything being said about

1224
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team is warranted right now. They're just something's

1225
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: off and everyone knows something's off. And it's the same

1226
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: thing with like Eagles, like something's just off about that

1227
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: Eagles team. It feels the same with this Chiefs team,

1228
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: where it's like we keep waiting for them to get

1229
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: into form and be that team that you know, it's

1230
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: still scary to have to play them in the playoffs,

1231
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 3: but it's not what it used to be where it's

1232
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: like you're not dreaded all week where it's like, yeah,

1233
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: you're a little scared of playing them. It's Mahomes still,

1234
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 3: but like, I'm not scared about this team that can't

1235
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: put up more than twenty points per game, right They're

1236
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: just because of these lotter offenses.

1237
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: It's just that you just struggle so hard.

1238
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: So if you're a Chiefs fan, not that this is

1239
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: exactly where you want to be, but it's like, you

1240
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: guys have never been counted out like this before in

1241
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: the Mahomes error, Like this is as low as it gets, right,

1242
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: so if you are someone that's buying them this week,

1243
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: I totally get it.

1244
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: I just can't get there.

1245
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you want to take Sincy two, right, Like,

1246
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: since he's still at seven seven and a half, it's

1247
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: a good number. I just I can't take the Chiefs

1248
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: as as big as a big of a favorite, like

1249
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 3: you give me a Holmes as a dog or under three.

1250
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm back in, but at this number against this team,

1251
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: cannot do it. Like I'll ride with this Sincy team

1252
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: on the road at seven seven and a half.

1253
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: YEP. A couple of things, I'll say One, we see

1254
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: this every year in the NFL. We're going to see

1255
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: We've already seen how the Eagles are going to lose

1256
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: in the playaffs, Right, It's going to be a stupid

1257
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: turnover at some point in a game, and I guess

1258
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: a team they shouldn't lose against. We've seen how the

1259
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to lose in the playoffs. It's going

1260
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: to be a receiver or someone else, Travis Kelce dropping

1261
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: the ball. These are concentration things, and like, I don't

1262
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: know that they're going to get better through two or

1263
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: three days of practices during the week. They get better

1264
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: when you're practicing catching five hundred balls a day, and

1265
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: these guys just haven't gotten to that level yet where

1266
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: they're able to execute in a way that the Chiefs

1267
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: have in the past. I disagree that Mahomes has been

1268
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of a whining bitch. I think he's

1269
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: confronting bigger challenges than he's ever seen, and he's so

1270
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: frustrated because his talent is so much greater than everybody

1271
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: else's and he's doing the same thing.

1272
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: I keep it together, though you're the leader. You can't

1273
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: be screaming and shouting every game on the sideline, like, dude,

1274
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: come on, there's only you see other quarterbacks doing that

1275
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 3: every week?

1276
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: Chat? Or is it just Mahomes? What would you classify

1277
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: as being a whiny little bitch?

1278
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: Also? Tom Brady should do the same thing. Did you

1279
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: call Tom Brady a whining little bitch?

1280
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1281
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: Once every other couple of weeks, or maybe every couple

1282
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: of months. He's not doing it three weeks in a row.

1283
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: It's like Mahomes of being on a bad team right now,

1284
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: it's just the watch.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, the only guy who doesn't do it is Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: and now he's getting tagged, is not being emotional enough.

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Speaker 3: Show me Josh Allen losing his fucking mind on the

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Speaker 3: I don't see Josh Allen going ape shit on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: We've seen Josh Allen lose his ship on the field before.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen gets spooked like a beautiful horse. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: one and a half. This Simon is going to be

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Speaker 1: the exec decision. Give me the Green Bay Packers the.

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Speaker 1: Wise guys are leaning this way. I'm leaning this way.

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Speaker 1: The trends are leaning this way, going against home faves

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Speaker 1: in the division. The Vikings offense has its moments, but

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Speaker 1: you said something really important earlier. They don't have the

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Speaker 1: talent at quarterback have enough of those moments. That's my take.

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Speaker 1: That's what the wise guys are thinking. I'm not afraid

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Speaker 1: of the Vikings blitz against Jordan Love this season. One

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Speaker 1: area where he has been really good is against the blitz. Okay,

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Speaker 1: give me Green Bay Packers exact decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say I would need I need

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't. I haven't modeled this one yet. But

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Speaker 2: you know, give me a break. Yesterday it was Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Uh dude, you're allowed. You know, listen, I.

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Speaker 2: Love, I only missed three games and this is one

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 3: But looking at this one, my initial reaction was to

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Speaker 3: take the Vikings just because it's like Green Bay's defense

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Speaker 3: did nothing in the first half. It was all second

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Speaker 3: half of it was number second half. Green Bay's defense

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Speaker 2: And that is the fear.

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Speaker 3: But I think Chad just said it, it's like if

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Speaker 3: right against the Blitz, this Vikings team is very beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've been.

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Speaker 3: Playing so above what they should be because they have

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Speaker 3: You know, just an incredible job by the whole coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: just there's some teams that just can't get it right.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings nailed it, like they're coaching so good. But

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Speaker 3: Chad said it like the talent wise, it's not there

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Speaker 3: Green Bay as well. If you're scared of the number,

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Speaker 3: another game, just like the Cowboys last week, throw it

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Speaker 3: in a teaser like they're giving you the one and

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Speaker 3: a half. Put in the six point teaser and now

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Speaker 3: you got green Bay seven and a half. I can't

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Speaker 3: and a half green Bay here, like they're just the

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Speaker 3: it's the team that's just held together with sticks and

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Speaker 3: bubble gum. They're just it's crazy they're at this point

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Speaker 3: different quarterback this season. It is bizarre, but I like

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Speaker 3: to play Chad. I'm with you on Green Bay. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: the sharp call is matchup what you're saying here, because

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Speaker 3: I haven't talk to anyone that's back to yet, but

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Speaker 3: like the money is coming in on Green Bay, So Chad,

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Speaker 3: Chad's probably right on this one.

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Speaker 2: It probably is the professional side.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you simon the level of gratification I

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