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Speaker 1: of the mountain and be done like two miles and

441
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 1: then we're done. So so the fact he was like

442
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: super pumped because this YouTube cowboy comedian out of Texas

443
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: like exceeded his exact But uh, but yeah, around then,

444
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: like I was running at least four miles every day

445
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: and I would go I would stretch it to eight

446
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: ten sometimes and I loved it. But my hips did

447
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: not love it, did not And I went to the

448
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: doctor mri back, you know, went to my surgeon. He

449
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you got some major You ever heard

450
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: of what's it called arthritis?

451
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 3: You ever heard of burrow racing? That might be the

452
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: sport for you. With donkeys, Yeah, you run them out?

453
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: What is it?

454
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 3: What this means?

455
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: Are they like many donkeys?

456
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: You're trying to get me on donkeys. I think they're

457
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 3: just the same as a donkey.

458
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: I want a many, but like one of those burrow

459
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 2: little little ones.

460
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: But the burrow racing, what happens. They do it in Leadville.

461
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 3: So I went out there filming a project this summer

462
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: and one of the guys, Curtis's buddy, the sheriff Heath,

463
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: he did one of the burrow races and they have

464
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 3: to run with the with the donkeys, and so what

465
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 3: will happen sometimes is like the finish line might be

466
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: twenty yards away and and they're about to win, and

467
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: that thing is like I'm done, And so these guys

468
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: are trying to drag it across the finish line. Yeah,

469
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 3: to win the race or whatever, but that I mean,

470
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: the donkey doesn't care.

471
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that to you and clay Man, y'all try

472
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: and get me around these donkeys.

473
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 3: I think it would be so fun trying. And I

474
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: guess like some of them won't cooperate the whole time,

475
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: so they're trying to drag them through the trail. But

476
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: they'll run like a marathon with them. And yeah, yeah, yeah,

477
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it was a real thing, but I

478
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 3: guess it's a big deal.

479
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, on brand with your hips. Yeah, if you tried

480
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: the hip halo or any like banded like, I'll show

481
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: you some hip exercises. I every once in a while

482
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: get some just hip soreness. I think more tendonitis than anything.

483
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: There's probably nothing left in my hips. But I don't

484
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: want to like go get an image because if you

485
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 4: don't know what's there, then there's nothing there, you know.

486
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: That's kind of my idea with MRIs. And so I'll

487
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: we get some exercise. We can show you. A hip

488
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 4: halo seems to help if I stay pretty regular with it.

489
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 4: Nice if you can get everything else strong strengthen around it.

490
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: So now I mainly just do right around Elk season

491
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do a lot of walking on a

492
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 1: treadmill with it cranked up on incline. But other than that,

493
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: we just do a lot of jiu jitsu.

494
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: No nice jiu jitsu.

495
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: A couple we no, I mean, I'm not any good

496
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: at it. No, we just do it.

497
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: We just do it.

498
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, man, I'm everybody keeps trying to get

499
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: me to do it. I just feel like I've got

500
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: some pretty limited range of motion and some joints that

501
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 4: it would it would not end well for me because

502
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 4: I cannot just.

503
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: Sit there not. Yeah.

504
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be willing to know I've heard. Yeah,

505
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: you gotta be willing to tap. These guys, know they

506
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: get me on the right side, Like my arm is

507
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: even begins. I'm like, all right, once you're okay with tapping,

508
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: then it's it can be more fun. But and and

509
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: but there's a humility side to it because I'm sure

510
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: you're competitive.

511
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: I'd hate it.

512
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: And you're also pretty strong, so like you just feel

513
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: like you can like muscle through this thing.

514
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: And you can't. Yeah, you can't.

515
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: We just had John Welborne on and he trains apparently

516
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: some of the best jiu.

517
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Jitsu, he's jiu jitsu.

518
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: Jiu jitsu athletes, jiu jitsuers in the world. And he

519
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 3: seemed to think it was all in the hips, right.

520
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's big on hips. You also have to

521
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 4: know John Welborne played seven or eight seasons in the

522
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: NFL as defensive lineman and now doing jiu jitsu.

523
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine he is not with an offensive.

524
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: Smaller than he was. He's probably two fifty to seventy.

525
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably all he did is got rid of

526
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 3: the fat that he needed to carry for weight, and

527
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: he kept all the muscle is massive.

528
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: I'd hate to.

529
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I put over there.

530
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: We've we've been rolling about two years now, and every

531
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: time we get a new intern, it's kind of like

532
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: they kind of got a roll. That's part of the job,

533
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: have you. I mean, no, it's you would think, but no,

534
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: they all whip me every time. Oh for sure, these

535
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: new guys like they'll come in there twenty two years old.

536
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and inevitably they've all either like played football

537
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: or wrestled.

538
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: Wrestled. You're screwed. Yeah, all my cousins wrestled. You're done.

539
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. There's not we there's I think six

540
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: of us sometimes eight this last time. No, it's eight

541
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: guys total that we all are rolling in there. I

542
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: can't beat one of them. Four of them are brand

543
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: new to jiu jitsu. But uh, anyway, I feel do

544
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: it at the house still getting Yeah.

545
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: You got a full gym at the house, right, yes, sir.

546
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 4: Then you got some mats at the house too, yes, sir.

547
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.

548
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Purple belt that's local that comes by. Yeah, trains it.

549
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he will turn you into a little pretzel.

550
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: But he knows too, like a lot of those guys,

551
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: especially when they're good. Like people say, like, man, he

552
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: goes too hard. Like no, if you just like somebody,

553
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I'll tap to pressure. I don't care like I mean,

554
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: like somebody might just hug me hard.

555
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm out.

556
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm out like I'm not here to get hurt. I'm

557
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: not here to prove a point. I just want to learn.

558
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: I want to learn.

559
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I think that's honestly, That's what I enjoy

560
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 4: most about hunting, too, is learning.

561
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 2: It's just something I didn't grow up. Did you grow

562
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: up hunting?

563
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were. We were always horseback. We were

564
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: always I mean we would hunt like I can remember

565
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: random dove hunts and deer hunts. We always hunt pigs

566
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: at night, like we would. That's what I did the most,

567
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: is like spotlighting pigs. But uh, I mean it was

568
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: a priority. My dad had a bow. But rodeo and

569
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: ranching just kind of we're always the main problem.

570
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't grow up.

571
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean we grew up, you know, once again, not

572
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: on a working ranch or farm, but we had chores.

573
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: You know, we had eleven twelve acres and my parents.

574
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: I feel like we're just always projects. You know, every

575
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 4: weekend you're like, it's the last project we got, Yeah,

576
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: we're home free from now on the next one, it

577
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 4: was like something stupid.

578
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: You're like, what are we doing?

579
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: So, yeah, we had chores and then you know, that's

580
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 4: why we started the ranch here. It was so the

581
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: kids had something to do with something we can all

582
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: do together. So like yesterday we were trying to fix

583
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: the water. We got a little leak, slow leak in there.

584
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: So it's just cool to have that.

585
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, so now I'm trying to like instill the

586
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: hunting into the kids where it's you know, they want

587
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: to go out and hunt with us. Obviously our kind

588
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: of passion minus Scott, I think especially or is Western hunting.

589
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: So you were talking. You went on elk Konnt this year,

590
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: on Elkhunt every year?

591
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: Or I have the last three? Okay, got got one

592
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: my first two years. This year we were skunk.

593
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: Where did you go this year?

594
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: It's called Bear Mountain. It's in Kremlin, Colorado. They do

595
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: Mountain Oops. Oh yep, they go they get mountain Oops.

596
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Since me and other Mountain Oops employees there every year,

597
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: it's a great place.

598
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: He did tell me, you want to go in that

599
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: access hunt. We're going to go in May. That's that's

600
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: a fun hunt.

601
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: I sure might I had, but like like in May,

602
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: like I go help some guys brand over a week

603
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: and a half and it's already a busy month. And

604
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: that's where like I hate, I'm not trying to downplay hunting.

605
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I do. Like we're trapping. I've got a thermal like

606
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: as soon as I get tomorrow.

607
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: Night skunk thing huh.

608
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, our little town of Winnebago, we got skunks

609
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: and all the intern houses. You don't have to have

610
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: a permit if you trap on your own property, and

611
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: so mostly a trap on my own property. Uh, there's

612
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: a few abandoned houses that maybe the trap. But anyway,

613
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: we got Yeah this year, I think I'm up to

614
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: seventy four skunks.

615
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

616
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: But there there was a stretch for three weeks, twenty

617
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: three days where I trapped thirty seven.

618
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was following along one Instagram.

619
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: You got a hat yet, we've got one jacket.

620
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're I don't. I'm just I'm not two

621
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: into skinning them. Yeah, we just trap them.

622
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: And relocate the relocate them to heaven to skunk Kevinunn

623
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: wherever skunks and the.

624
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: Skunks in our county are rampant with rabies. Yeah, so

625
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: unapologetically we do. And then I've lost a horse this

626
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: year to EPM, which they can get from all varmits,

627
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: mainly primarily possums. All varmints can. Yeah, it's a neurological thing,

628
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 1: and they'll go to acting drunk. They start crossing their

629
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: front feet and like swaying lp and the hay. Yeah,

630
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: some people it's called possum's disease EPM, but uh, I've

631
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: had two vets tell me that really any varment can give.

632
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: It to them.

633
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: So that's what That's what really turned up the volume

634
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: on my trapping around my area because like we had

635
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: a one horse die from it. And this horse popped

636
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: up and started like stumbling around like it's drunk and

637
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: then was dead in two hours.

638
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Jeez.

639
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: And then but my good horse got it. I was

640
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: picking up at a rodeo and he was like kind

641
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: of stumbling and he got it. And we tested for

642
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: it because it's expensive to test and treat, and long

643
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: story short, yeah, we relocate them to heaven.

644
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: How does the place get a skunk problem?

645
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Bro?

646
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Just I think if they go unchecked, and there's a

647
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: little creek goes through our town where like they'll they'll

648
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of like I think that's where they mainly live.

649
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: And then every house feeds cats. Dude, there's, however, many

650
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: skunks we got quadrupleting and that's only cats, the stray

651
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: cats we got in this town.

652
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: Should the cats be taking care of these skunks?

653
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: No, No, they don't care. They all just live together.

654
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: They eat out of the same bowls. But every dang house,

655
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: it's like the town is against me. They're all like,

656
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's the town against Dale. And maybe it's

657
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: because of my shenanigans, the explosions, bulls running through town,

658
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: horses getting out my donkey. I used to have a

659
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: minature donkey. Be careful of those. Really goes knew he

660
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: learned how to open doors, went in my neighbor's house,

661
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: he came inside, My donkey was in his kitchen. So,

662
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: like I do, kind of sometimes stir up the town,

663
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I guess. And so, but yeah, I'm going around every

664
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: morning checking my traps in my cannon plug and I'm

665
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: either got raccoons, possums, skunks, decimates the turkey population as well. Yeah,

666
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: we don't have a ton of turkeys right there, but

667
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: because you have so many skunks. Maybe it's because we've

668
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: got so many skunks. But yeah, I'm seventy three on

669
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: the year. I'm doing my part, doing your part.

670
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: We had a skunk one time. We have an outside cat,

671
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: barn cat. She's a killer.

672
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: We leave the garage door, yeah, so she can come

673
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: in and out, you know, in the winter especially, and

674
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: her food's in there. One evening, we have a fridge

675
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: outside that's mainly just drinks. I was going out to

676
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: get a spin drift not shameless plug.

677
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: They still don't pay us. But anyway, I was walking

678
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: out there and all of a sudden.

679
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: I see a skunk dart out and I'm like, whoa,

680
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: And Hillary's like, what's out there?

681
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: So it's a skunk.

682
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that thing got in. We had another story.

683
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: We have a double door that goes into our bedroom

684
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: and my son, when he was like four, just plowed

685
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: right through it with his like step car or whatever.

686
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: And so we had a door to replace that door,

687
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: and it was sitting out there. Well, it had sat

688
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: out there for a month or two because I.

689
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Hadn't got to painting it.

690
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: The skunk had built a nest, you know how it's like,

691
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: you know, has a piece of one by to keep

692
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: it together, but it's the full door plus the molding,

693
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: and it was underneath there. And I'm like walking through

694
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: the garage getting ready. We were going on a hunting

695
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: trip and there's liquid the hells that. Hillary's like, oh,

696
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: it must be a pipe, bust. I'm like, there's no

697
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: pipe underneath our concrete floor in the garage.

698
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: The thing had like nested and was just pissing on there.

699
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: So I peek.

700
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: Under the door and skunk staring at me, squaring the face,

701
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: which is better than yeah, looking at that. But and

702
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: so I just start, I get a strap and start

703
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: dragging it out, and it's just spraying everywhere beneath that door.

704
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's it's if you if you're having a

705
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: good day and you and I got twenty traps going

706
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: at any given time. If you if you're having a

707
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: good day and you get four skunks, it's whatever. If

708
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: you're having a bad day, catching a skunk or seeing one,

709
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: or interacting one will make it way worse. I get

710
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: it will. It will make a bad day worse.

711
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: But what how do you we're on a tangent here.

712
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: But once they're in.

713
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: The trap, I like to depending on where they are.

714
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, some people just shoot them right there, but

715
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: like you can if you'll walk up the trash bag

716
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: the door side of it, you know, it'll kind of

717
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: block their view and then hopefully the wind is right

718
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: and then you just walk up slow with a big

719
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: trash bag big enough to and then you can you

720
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: can walk up and uh work it into the and

721
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: then once you once you get the bag over them,

722
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: they'll still spray and you'll smell it. But it's real

723
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: easy to get it. I mean, you take a shower

724
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: and nobody knows you trapped a skunk that day, but

725
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: there's trapped. They make traps where if the skunk goes in,

726
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing is already enclosed. They're more expensive, yeah,

727
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know if they'll also work

728
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: for the possums and raccoons. Maybe they will, but I

729
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of like to know what I've got trapped before, yeah,

730
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: before you So anyways, it's uh, it's not the most

731
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, chicken houses, they're all around those. I got

732
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: real nervous. All my inventory from my pareline which is

733
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of that's my main bread winter is my parel line.

734
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: And so I started getting nervous about it getting like

735
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: a fire in the warehouse, and so I got I

736
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: invested in a few shipping containers. That way it's separate,

737
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, those are a ride off, and

738
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: so I was just like, this will be good and

739
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: then I can always sell them. It was all great,

740
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: So I've got inventory in those, until skunks started getting

741
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: under them. That's the one weakness. Yeah, they're separate, you know,

742
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: fire in the warehouse, I still got inventory.

743
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Skunk's breaking inventory.

744
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so long as it's not a direct hit,

745
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: but time it's usually.

746
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: Going to be okay.

747
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: Time heals all wounds, even skunks.

748
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: If you do decide to go to the shooting route,

749
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 4: do they dispel their Oh yeah, baby, that's the hard

750
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: part too, huh yep.

751
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 1: So we started trying to give them a fair shake

752
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: and we let them out and then shoot. But like

753
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I said, they got rabies. I'm not I am not

754
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: for like just you know, unnecessary like killing just for

755
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: the same I'm really not like that. That'll make my

756
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: stomach curt if people are just like but there's also

757
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: a line like, if it's something that can kill a horse,

758
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: if it's something that's got Raby's like, well get him tested,

759
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: all right, that's okay, that's my line.

760
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna test them. We're not going to test him.

761
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: How do you get them tested?

762
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: So you got skunked in Colorado this year? Did you

763
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: see did you have a lot of action or was

764
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: it a pretty just no action?

765
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: No action as the third week of September.

766
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be.

767
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: Supposed to be perfect. It's always supposed to be.

768
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Hey, this is did you ever hear this is weird?

769
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: Or it's you never never like this? We always get that, Yeah,

770
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: that's our.

771
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: Like, well, the first two years, I mean it was

772
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: like weird year was weird year, and so if that

773
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: had been my first year, I might have been like

774
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: what are you are you just saying that? But the

775
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: first two years like he put us on them and uh, archery, Yeah,

776
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. I mean, it's even on

777
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: a good year, Archery is pretty hard.

778
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: Archery is hard, man.

779
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: We rifle is hard in its own right too. It's

780
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: just a completely different style of hunting.

781
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: I enjoy. You know, I'm not a purist.

782
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: When it comes to hunting, Like, I'm an equal opportunity shooter.

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: I love archery. It's probably my favorite, but man rifle

784
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: we had the we joked, but I had the epiphany

785
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: this year. I think rifle cow elk hunting is my

786
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: favorite because you can just kind of hang out. There's

787
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: no pressure to kill a giant, you know, bull, but

788
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: you could still get really good meat out of it.

789
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: And it's just kind of fun to go around and oh,

790
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: here's a cow, can we get to it?

791
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: You know?

792
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: But man archery elk hunting will humble you quick. I

793
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 4: had a really good year last.

794
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: Year and then just really bad year this year.

795
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: This year, yeah, like it was the first year he

796
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: put me close to one once and I just didn't

797
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: as my first year, I didn't really step around and

798
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: take a shot like I probably could have. But I

799
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: got one on the last evening of the last day.

800
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: So four days, eight hunts and the last day and

801
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I got a little five by five and uh. And

802
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: then the second year, opening mourning, he was like, this

803
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: is where they're going to be, and so I got this.

804
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: He ended up scoring like three or four, had two

805
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: main beams off of one side. He was kind of

806
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: gnarly and uh and then people are throwing rocks that

807
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: it was a canned hunt, you know, so it was

808
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, of course, but I got

809
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: rocks thrown at me just because it was a guided hunt.

810
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't realize, was it. It's a no no man.

811
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: You're allowed to learn, you know, allowed to learn from anybody.

812
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: Oh I guess you got to watch YouTube videos and

813
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: only do it that way.

814
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so. But Bear Mountain is like it's

815
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: not like it's a super affordable hunt. I mean, like

816
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: working men are going there and uh and still hard.

817
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: But like I said, dude, that you know, CrossFit is

818
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: to you is like Rodeo is to me, Like that's

819
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: my jam is Rodeo, ranching anything on a horse. Like

820
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: like I said, hunting is fun, break a bullet, there

821
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: you go. But hunting is like it's definitely a hobby

822
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: for me. So like I don't feel the need to

823
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: go get out in the open those two poor kids

824
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: this year. Dude, I'm not going out there by myself.

825
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm never a hunt, you know, Like, yeah, I don't

826
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: know anything about ELK. I'm going to take a guy

827
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: to hunt, Like that's just.

828
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: I had a buddy that he went on a guy.

829
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian, Okay, Like that's a resident I'm doing

830
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: for disaster.

831
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: I enjoy hunting, and I want to go enjoy it.

832
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Don't want to.

833
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a buddy that he killed this year

834
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: and it was a on a ranch, but I think

835
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: people confuse ranch with like high fence. And he was like, hey,

836
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: I want to You don't want to thank the guy,

837
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: but I don't want to get lit up on comments.

838
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, here's the deal. People are going

839
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: to be excited for you because they're excited for you.

840
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: People are going to be mad at you just because

841
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: they want to be mad at you for killing, but

842
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 4: they also want to be mad at you. There's also

843
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: this other subgroup that wants to be mad at you

844
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: because you didn't do it the hard way.

845
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: And so, I mean, we did a mix of all

846
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: three this year.

847
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: We went by, we went and you know, then you

848
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: got this whole we get We went with the born

849
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: raised guys, and it's not guided, but you are on

850
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 4: private land.

851
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: You're paying for land access.

852
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: Paying for land access, and it's super affordable again, and

853
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: it's a little bit of DIY like we can go

854
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: out and luckily worth born and raised guys, which they

855
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: know what the heck they're doing, and we've learned a

856
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: ton throughout the years from them and from others, and

857
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: so you got this kind of like but we've done

858
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: a mix of all three this year, and I will

859
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: grab heat on whatever. And it's like, man, whatever floats

860
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 4: your boat, you know, like there's.

861
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: A good way to learn.

862
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: You can go out and do the back country ten twelve,

863
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: fifteen days, which maybe I would like to do eventually,

864
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: but I've got three kids, and if I leave for

865
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: two or three weeks at a.

866
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: Time, my wife's gonna kill me.

867
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: It means you're not gonna hunt exactly exactly.

868
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 4: So week at a time, a couple of weeks back,

869
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: week at a time works out best for me.

870
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm different.

871
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: I just I don't.

872
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm all for like capitalism, and you know, like if

873
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: somebody works hard and builds a ranch and I don't

874
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: know whatever, that's me. I don't even mind high fence,

875
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: to be honest, that doesn't bother me. That's a which

876
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: that's a hot take. I'm sure I'll catch flak for.

877
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: But like you get a big enough piece of property,

878
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: bro a couple thousand acres, because there's I mean, a

879
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: deer doesn't use that much and when it's like time

880
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 1: to hunt, like you'll see the same deer on low

881
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: fence like over and over all year, and so you

882
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: get a big enough whatever.

883
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: That's just me.

884
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: Do you hunt white tail down in Texas? Very much

885
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: like closer to home?

886
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: I haven't like I used to. I have, but I

887
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: just I haven't really prioritize the time for it.

888
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

889
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I go, I do the elk thing with

890
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: the archery elk, and then I'll go noodling, and then

891
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: I'll do some third stuff at night, sometimes with a

892
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: twenty two. Like I haven't even done thermals with hogs.

893
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: I used to.

894
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: I used to spotlight hogs at night all the time,

895
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: but as of lately, you know, I'm usually like hunting

896
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: varmits at night with the thermal or noodling in the

897
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: summertime and then a little bit of artrioch. But that's

898
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of my I just don't have a lot of

899
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: time to hunt. Yeah, Clay wants to take me squirrel

900
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: hunting horseback with I think shots or horse that sounds

901
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: fun or even pigs horseback. That also sounds fun in

902
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: some wheat fields in Oklahoma. So like that, that's kind

903
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: of up my alley. But I'd love to.

904
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

905
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not. I don't I'm not craving filling

906
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: up my schedule with just hunts ever, because I'm gonna

907
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: go to rodeos I want to go to.

908
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, do what you want to do.

909
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, what kind of depends on time of the year.

910
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 4: You know, we get our summer gets locked up with

911
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 4: CrossFit stuff, but then fall, especially September, first part October.

912
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: I'll I'll ease up my schedule just to hunt, just

913
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: because I've gotten just eat up with it.

914
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I enjoy it.

915
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: You do much roping of buffalo at all.

916
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I've never roped a buffalo.

917
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: I was interested to hear what your take might be

918
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: on like maybe like roping one and then cast rating it.

919
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: So here's the story.

920
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, before my wife had the Highland cows, we

921
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: had the buffalo out here.

922
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: I needed an expert opinion.

923
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: And uh, we had the first one born out here.

924
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: We named it.

925
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: It was actually we named it that was the first pai.

926
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: My wife named it once you name it exactly, and

927
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: so you don't necessarily cast rate buffalo because there's no

928
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: you don't steer like it. Just you don't have the

929
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: benefits of a steak with buffalo. It's gonna eat the

930
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: same exactly. And I think it actually stunted its growth.

931
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: But anyway, that's a whole nother story for sure. And

932
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: uh so it was named it was named after a

933
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: family friend. Our family friend then passed away. He's a

934
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 4: marine man. He's a marine and my veterans day to day,

935
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 4: so you know, Tom.

936
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Thanks. But uh so, Hillary said we could never slaughter him.

937
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's how that worked.

938
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Well, we don't want him to eventually impregnate his sisters

939
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: or his mother, so you have to castrate him.

940
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: So we called uh Cody, what's Cody's last name? You

941
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: might know him.

942
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 4: He did some he was in PBR for a while. Man,

943
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: I can't remember Cody's last name. Cody came out and

944
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: roped Wilson and we jumped on him and castrated him

945
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: right there.

946
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: So Wilson is still out there.

947
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I.

948
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Can't remember what Cody's last name was. Yeah, we did

949
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: a whole YouTube video on it.

950
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 3: Wilson's life camera.

951
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Remember how many codies I have in my phone, but

952
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: it's like sixty three or something bodies, So like you

953
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: gotta give me the last name.

954
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to look, but yeah, and we

955
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: actually had to have we had three that we.

956
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind the roping part when it

957
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: comes to Like, I just I wouldn't know much about

958
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: the buffalo side of things, but like, yeah, whenever we

959
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: brand and castrate down in I gotta fly down in Texas.

960
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Like usually we'll we'll drag calves, meaning like put them

961
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: in a pin. Yeah, we strip them off the mamas,

962
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: so it'll be a big pin full of babies, and

963
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: then we'll heal them, rope them, and then we drag

964
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: them to the fire and two guys will flank them

965
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: and hold them down while they get vaccinated, branded and

966
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: then if their males castrated and so that is how

967
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: we do that.

968
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 4: To all this is we didn't have a working facility.

969
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: Now we have a work facility. That's how we would

970
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: do it now, but we just didn't have it back then.

971
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying even you know, like a lot of

972
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: these big ranches, middle mid sized ranches, like they won't

973
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: have it'll just be big pins without like shoots. So

974
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: like we'll still drag calves to the to some flankers.

975
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they do it over I'm sure

976
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: here in Tennessee they probably.

977
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Cody Brewer, that's it, you know, Cody Brewer. I don't

978
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: think so that's Cody.

979
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: So branding is that is that mostly what you help with?

980
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Then, yeah, there's a few different things that they'll do

981
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: on a ranch. So like when you ran, when you

982
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: work on a ranch full time, you'll help all all

983
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: in every the entire year, you know, and uh, there's

984
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: all kinds of things. But twice a year a typical

985
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: ranch in Texas, in the spring they will brand, uh,

986
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: drag calves. That's when they're going to vaccinate, cash rate

987
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: all those things. And that's fun because you get to

988
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: gather sort and rope. And then in the fall you'll wean,

989
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: which is really just gathering sort and so and it's

990
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: usually cold, but those two activities that happen that will

991
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: usually a lot of ranchers will hire day workers, it's

992
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: what they call them, so like just a few extra

993
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: hands because all your full time help, you know, it's

994
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: just a little bit more labor into this. And so

995
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: now I you know, I've got my own cows. But

996
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: I like in May you're talking about the hunt, like,

997
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: I'll go day work at various places, so and will

998
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: brand and I day worked a little bit this fall,

999
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: help and wean, and so those are the two activities

1000
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: that I'll go do and for me at this point

1001
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: in my life, that's not how I make my living.

1002
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: So it's almost I'll get content, but it's also kind

1003
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: of like my hunting trip.

1004
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: It's what we do and with the buffalo in the

1005
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 4: fall and spring, same exact thing, except for we don't

1006
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 4: do much weaning right now, and then.

1007
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: We don't brand because there's really no point in it. Here.

1008
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: They've probably got a little better system then we do here.

1009
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: We've got ours dial down, though. I think this next

1010
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: time should be easy.

1011
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: There's one more trip that I do take that it's

1012
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a hunting trip, but it's I've

1013
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: only done it one time, but it's in Arizona. We

1014
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: went in February. There's a team roper that uh, he's

1015
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Navajo and he's kind of a legend. He's been to

1016
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. This will be his twelfth trip and hopefully

1017
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: wins the world this year. But Derek Bagay uh from

1018
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Arizona and Uh, those reservations out there, hundreds of thousands

1019
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: of acres and there's you know, it's wild mountains and

1020
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: desert area, and so there's a lot of what we

1021
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: call maverick cattle and it's just wild cattle that rome.

1022
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: And so these reservations will have ranch managers. So a

1023
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: certain man will be in charge of these two hundred

1024
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: thousand acres, and so a group of guys who know

1025
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: him will usually sometimes get that they have to have permission,

1026
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: and they'll go in. We'll set up camp for a

1027
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: week two weeks and catch as many maverick cattle as

1028
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: they can, lead them out, put them on trailers, take

1029
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: them to the ceilbarn, and then they split.

1030
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: That with the reservation.

1031
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: So but it's all you got to have permission, you

1032
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: got to have you know, you got to be invited.

1033
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: It's not you can't just go out there, obviously. And

1034
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 1: so I got to go with Derek and a group

1035
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: of guys this this spring and just ride around with

1036
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: some binoculars. You catch these and some of these bulls,

1037
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean big like imagine a buck and bull like

1038
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: as big or not bigger, if not bigger than that

1039
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: bison out there sharp porn's never seen a human. You

1040
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: ride in, catch it and it's trying to kill you,

1041
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: and these guys will rope it, tie it down like

1042
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: it's a calf at a rodeo.

1043
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: What's the process for that?

1044
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you find it. You get on top of

1045
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: a hill, you scan out across the valley. You see

1046
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: one and a half miles away there's a group of five.

1047
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: You figure out a way to get to them. You

1048
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: sneak up on them, somebody hazes them down to the bottom,

1049
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: and guys cut them off, and then you're just you

1050
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: take to them like you're at a team roping, and

1051
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: whoever catches first that animal is a sign to that

1052
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: guy and somebody will still help and heal maybe, but

1053
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: you try to get it to a tree or something,

1054
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: to where or like after you rope them around the horns,

1055
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: like if you can get like the rope to go

1056
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: in between their legs, and then you ride the other

1057
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: direction and kind of trip them up. And then at

1058
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: some point you get off your horse, you run down

1059
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: the rope and you tie this big animal down.

1060
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: And then how do you lead it to you?

1061
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: So then once you get it tied down, you cut

1062
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: his horns off, pull them and you'll lead it to

1063
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: the closest tree and you tight to the tree and

1064
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: you'll leave it for a day or two, and it'll

1065
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: make him kind of sore to that rope, and he'll

1066
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: kind of learn that rope. And then you come in

1067
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: and you dally him up close to your horse, and

1068
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: he'll be fighting you for a little bit, but after

1069
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: half a mile he's just kind of walking next to

1070
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: you and he becomes your buddy. It's so wild, it's crazy.

1071
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: It's the wildest thing I've ever done. Like you're adrenaline

1072
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: everything like.

1073
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: So we put at riding a horse.

1074
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: We went. We went in February and I put out

1075
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: a video catching Mavericks in Arizona and Donnie went with

1076
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: me and filmed it. And it's an hour and a

1077
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: half long. It's it's crazy. It's Mayhem like these and

1078
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys that are going are Indians.

1079
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: And if you think they're not like notoriously calm like

1080
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: these guys are, they have no pause, like they take

1081
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: to these big bulls by themselves. On the side of

1082
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a mountain. The wilder the better, and the huge horns

1083
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: and they're mean, like they will kill you and your

1084
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: horse and they'll just rope them, you know, use go

1085
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: around the tree, time down like it's like you're watching

1086
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: the caf open into rodeo. It's insanity.

1087
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1088
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 3: You don't really think about like any kind of cattle

1089
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: being wild.

1090
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, until you get out in the middle

1091
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: of Arizona and it's that part of the I mean,

1092
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: like you guys have flown over these parts of the

1093
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: world and you look down it's just no roads, no nothing. Well,

1094
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: there's maybe some Maverick cattle depending on the history of

1095
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: that territory and the history of this territory where we

1096
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: went was there was a strip of land that some

1097
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: ranchers were on and the reservation. It was a big

1098
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: court battle and the reservation finally got it back or

1099
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: took it. I don't know what the I'm not sure,

1100
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: but it was like in the sixties and there were

1101
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: some ranches there and you know, ranching out there is

1102
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: hard enough, like you're gonna lose cattle, like they're gonna

1103
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: get because it's hard to fence the mountains yep, and

1104
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: so cattle find a way to get out, and well

1105
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: that's what happened. And the the legend is that one

1106
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: lady would not leave and she was so mad when

1107
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: she finally did leave that she turned out fighting bulls.

1108
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: And so the legend is that a lot of these

1109
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: mavericks go back to like fighting bull genetics, which even

1110
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: if they didn't like it's still they're still pretty.

1111
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: Mean, like yeah, they're feral cows.

1112
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Any yeah, and and and there kind of be standoffish

1113
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: until you put a rope on their horns, and then

1114
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: any gentle animal may change their mind about being gentle.

1115
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: So anyways, I'll do that trip and hopefully I get

1116
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: invited again. But the drive in was the sketchiest. If

1117
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: you watch my film, it's the first twenty minutes is

1118
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: us just trying to get to camp and it's so sketchy,

1119
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: like just cliffs and driving. So it's sketchy. That's awesome, Well,

1120
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Dale appreciate it, man, Yeah, sorry, go on, my maverick

1121
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: catch right there. But it's the same thing whenever we

1122
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: talk about hunting, like I've had a few people like,

1123
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: let's go on this trip, man, I'd love to go.

1124
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't have much I don't have

1125
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: much time. Yeah, because I'll do these other things. But anyway,

1126
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1127
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

1128
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: And we're about to have Rich on my podcast podcast. Yeah,

1129
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear his story. So thanks for.

1130
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: Having much of one of us work out alone.

1131
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: That's what I need to hear about because I need

1132
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: help in that area. All right, peace, love you guys,

1133
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: palp ou