1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Sexton Shoke Podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: roll through our number two Thursday edition. It is the 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: final day of March. Tomorrow is April Fools. Do not 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: believe anything anyone tells you tomorrow. Oh man, My kids 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: love to play April Fools jokes. Sometimes they get me still, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: But the Internet is the worst for April Fools jokes 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: because crazy stories happen on the Internet all the time, 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: so it's hard to figure out whether something is true 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: or not. If a crazy story legitimately happens on April Fools, 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: good luck trying to discern it, especially given how much 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: craziness that is just fake every single day is rolling around. 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: We got a loaded show headed your direction here in 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Miranda Divine, who I'm gonna be honest 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: with you. I think she deserves the Pulitzer Prize. She 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: and her compatriots at The New York Post who wrote 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: about the Hunter Biden laptop back in October of twenty 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: twenty and are now being systemically vindicated across all of 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: the big media outlets, ABC, CBS, NBC, Washington Post, New 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: York Times. They're all chasing the story that they broke 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty about Hunter Biden's inappropriate, potentially 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: illegal relationships in China and in Ukraine and what Joe 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: Biden might be connected to as it pertains to those 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: potential illegal acts. So we'll be talking to her at 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: one thirty at two o'clock, Gordon, Chang and dub He's 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: going to be great trying to explain China as the 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: final country to be pursuing a COVID zero policy, and 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: also will be a little bit of a preview for 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I imagine a good discussion that we will have with 31 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: our buddy Alex Barrenson tomorrow for the latest on COVID data. 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: But today this is a story. It's rare that I 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: see a story and I think to myself, there's no 34 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: way a major political party can be endorsing this as 35 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: aggressively as they are. Fox News has a story today. 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Today is what's supposed to be Transgender Awareness Day or 37 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, Jax Blincoln 38 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: tweeted it out. Just also throw in the mix of 39 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: your clay that as of April eleventh, US citizens will 40 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: be able to select X as their gender marker on passports. 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: So now it's going official federal documents, you can go 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,279 Speaker 1: non gender. Well, doesn't that seem like a potential security 43 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: issue to not have to know of your sex on 44 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: your gender It makes it it certainly easier to engage 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: in engage in fraud, and you know, to use passports 46 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: for people who aren't supposed to use them. But beyond that, 47 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: it is the or just in addition, I should say 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: it is Transgender Day of Visibility. That's that is what 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: it is called today. All right. So Fox News has 50 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: got a story up and as I read this, I 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: just I got more and more crazy to me. Biden 52 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: administration endorses trans this is the headline. Endorses transgender youth 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: sex change operations, top surgery, hormone therapy. The White House 54 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: is encouraging gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy for 55 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: transgender miners. And I just want to say this, and 56 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think how to say it in a 57 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: way that is succinct, So I'm gonna do my best. 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: It's child abuse, in my opinion, to change the gender 59 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: of a minor. The idea that you would be removing 60 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: and changing the sex the genitals of a twelve year 61 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: old is completely indefensible madness period. Okay, I've got three kids. 62 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Anyone out there who has kids, think and think about 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have kids, think about in your own life, 64 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: how rational are young kids when it comes to making 65 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: major life choices. Buck, We don't allow kids under twenty 66 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: one to buy a beer legally, and we are going 67 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: to allow miners to decide what gender they are and 68 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: to have sex change operations. It's actually worse than that, Clay, 69 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: because they're really advocating for this, meaning that they're you're 70 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: supposed to celebrate this. The whole point of the Biden 71 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: administration putting out these papers is so that everyone knows 72 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: when a twelve year old or a ten year old 73 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: now as I think I'm a girl, when they're a boy. 74 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: The response is supposed to be great. Now, let's talk 75 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: about how we can give you gender changing hormone therapy 76 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: as well as, as you pointed out, top therapy, which is, 77 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: let's be very clear about this, the removal of healthy 78 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: female breast tissue. When we're talking about the bottom therapy. 79 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: It is the removal of healthy male genitalia. In the 80 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: case of transitioning to a woman. There is a I'm 81 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: just going to say this, There is a psychological condition. 82 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: It does exist. It is in the literature where people 83 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: believe that they should not have a limb that they 84 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: do and they want it to be surgically removed. Now 85 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: we recognize that, I you know, when someone says I 86 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't have this left arm, I don't want we recognize 87 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: that as mental illness. No doctor is going to say 88 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I will put you under anesthesia and remove your healthy 89 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: left arm. Let's be very clear when you're talking about 90 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: some of the therapies for miners that the Biden administration 91 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: is putting out here. You are removing healthy tissue. You 92 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: are engaged in mutilation of a healthy body and the 93 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: long term consequences. This is on the NIH. I'm not 94 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: on crazy you know, crazy right wing you know doesn't 95 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: approve of trans dot com or something. This is on 96 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: the NIH right now, Clay. As a consequence of pharmacological 97 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: treatment received by patients who have transitioned, there are unintended 98 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: systemic changes that may occur. These include increased cardiovascular risk 99 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: in both transwomen and trans men, significant increase of body 100 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: mass index, a lot of weight gain, and systolic and 101 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: diastolic blood pressure in trans men, osteo osteoporosis at the 102 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: lumbar spine and distal arm and trans women. Adverse effects 103 00:06:53,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: include venous thromboembolism, fractures, cardiovascular disease, stroke, and hormone dependent cancers. 104 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Those are for adult transpatience. The risks that they put 105 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: out there, think about this now, and that's based on 106 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: this is this is just pharmacological treatment. This isn't even 107 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the removal of like male gonads for example. This isn't 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: even the stuff they're talking about. They want to do 109 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: this to kids, Clay, it's child abuse. And look, if 110 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: you reach the age of majority and you decide that 111 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: you want to pay to be the gender that is 112 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: different than the one that you were born from, that 113 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: is your choice, right. But if you're doing it to 114 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: a ten year old and we're going to allow this 115 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to happen, it's child abuse. It shouldn't be permitted. And 116 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: I would just come back again and again to the 117 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: reason why we even have ages of majority and ages 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: of minority is because We believe until you reach the 119 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: age of eighteen, you aren't even responsible for the choices 120 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: that you make. That's why we have juvenile courts, because 121 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: you may make the decision to rob a convenience store 122 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: when you're fourteen, and we don't want that judgment, that 123 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: error that you made, to stick with you for the 124 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: rest of your life. We believe that by the time 125 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: you become an adult, you can make a different choice. 126 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: The idea that we would allow this to occur at all, 127 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: the idea that there are doctors that would do this, 128 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: that there are parents that would that would do this, 129 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: it's pure madness. This is this is I mean when 130 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I when I and it's it's madness to me that 131 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: it exists. The fact that a president and his political 132 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: party would be advocating for it, I don't understand. I mean, Buck, 133 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: what percentage of Americans do you? I mean, because because 134 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: this is what I look at it, I don't even understand. 135 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: There's no way that Joe Biden actually believes this, right, 136 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: let's start here. Joe Biden. There's no way that he 137 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: believes that a ten year old should have surgery. I mean, 138 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: he's Seidens never really believed any he does whatever the 139 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Democrat Party wants him to do. But yes, you're right 140 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: as as a person, if you pushed him at chat. 141 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: I would love for Joe Biden to get asked a 142 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: question about the pen transgender swimmer, which I haven't seen 143 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: him ask. There's no way that he as I believe 144 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: he's a sports fan, there's no way that he agrees 145 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: with that. But to think that a ten year old, 146 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: and to think that a major American political party could 147 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: put this out and be endorsing it, I can't imagine 148 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: that there's more than fifteen or twenty percent of Americans 149 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: that would even countenance this. It makes me sick to 150 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: even think about this happening to a ten year old. 151 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: It's the hard left, but they run the party now unfortunate, 152 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: they run the Democrat Party. They call the shots within 153 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, which is why we're seeing a Biden 154 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: administration that is so just disastrous in its results, because 155 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: there's an irrational, an irrational cabal of leftists that are 156 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: really the ones who actually pushed this party and oytherway. 157 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: It's not just elected officials, it's activists, it's media entities, 158 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: it's social media companies. But Clay. Look at what's gone on, 159 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: even just in the last couple of weeks. Suddenly there's 160 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: this enormous outcry against preventing teachers in Florida from talking 161 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: about trans and gender affirmation and sexuality and all that 162 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: stuff for kindergarteners. And we're not exaggerating kindergarten, first grade, 163 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: second grade. There's a huge outcry from a left about this, 164 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: and they have to say that don't say gabel, which 165 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: is just that that's not even a thing, doesn't exist. 166 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: But they're trying to strike it down. They're trying to 167 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: attack it, and everybody who supports it, including the fifty 168 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: two percent of Democrats in the state of Florida who 169 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: support it, by the way, fifty two percent of Democrats 170 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: in the polling. But when you look also then at 171 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: what happened with Disney. They came out against it, and 172 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: then you had people giving speeches for the all hands. 173 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Everybody in Disney is supposed to watch this video, I 174 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: suppose where they're hearing the chief president or the chief 175 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: content officer of the President of Content say that she 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: has a pan sexual and transgender child, one of each child, 177 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and how they want to push this ideology on children. 178 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: They want this to be something that your kids, when 179 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: they're watching cartoons, are being programmed in. And then today 180 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: the Biden administration releases documents encouraging gender reassignment surgery and 181 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: hormone treatments for miners, specifically for kids, for teenagers, for preteens. 182 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: How can you not see this right and how can 183 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: you not put all these things together and say there 184 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: really is an agenda here to brainwash children and use 185 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: them as pawns in this trans agenda that the left 186 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: has adopted wholesale. I have friends talking about this for Clay. 187 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I have friends in the gay and lesbian community who 188 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: are seeing this and they're saying, what has gone on here? 189 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: It's all trans Now everything from a left is about 190 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: the trans agenda. You're right, it's all about transgenderism. There's 191 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: not even you and or the entities, the organizations that 192 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: used to be about, you know, equal rights for gays, 193 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: equal rights for lesbian's, that's now all fallen away. They're 194 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: all in on this trans agenda, and specifically for kids. 195 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: And if you even talk about some of the long 196 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: term effects, if you do a study of rapid onset 197 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: gender dysphoria, which was the term used in that Brown 198 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: University study of little kids who around other transgender kids 199 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: suddenly become much more likely to be transgender by a 200 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: massive percentage in proportion. Maybe that's because kids are impressionable 201 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and don't have a framework of judgment to your point 202 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: about who's a minor and why we have the laws 203 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: we do. And the left, the left wants to go 204 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: after and say, oh, you're twelve, you think you're a woman. 205 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Let's let's actually do bottom end top surgery, put you 206 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: on hormone therapy, and you know, hope we haven't ruined 207 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: your life. By the way, sterility is another huge risk 208 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: from these from these procedures, of course, And I just 209 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: come back to let's think about the choices that we 210 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: allow miners to make. You can't buy a beer until 211 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: you're twenty one in theory. You can't buy a ticket 212 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: to an R rated movie, I think until you're eighteen. 213 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't serve in the military until you're 214 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: eighteen years old. You can't buy a gun, you can't 215 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: even rent a car to what buck you're like twenty five, 216 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: You can't drive a car until you're sixteen. And we're 217 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna let a ten year old decide to have their 218 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: genitals removed. Just think about this, I mean, for everybody 219 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: out there driving around, everybody's I mean, this is this 220 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: is a position that is utterly indefensible. Again, if you 221 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: are of age, if you are eighteen or older, you 222 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: want to make that choice, I think that you should 223 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: have the right to make that choice. There can be 224 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: all sorts of debates about that. For adults. People can 225 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: have different opinions on that. I don't understand how there 226 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: is any other opinion other than this is child abuse 227 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: where it comes to ten year olds removing body parts 228 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: to try to make them another gender, and it's all 229 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: it's essentially a part of a Children can determine this 230 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: because they want to make it seem as though this 231 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: is a children are born a certain way and need 232 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: to have affirmation. It used to be gender transition. Now 233 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: they call it gender affirmation. And so the younger the 234 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: affirmations are occurring, the more it seems as though this 235 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: isn't a psychological condition or choice, which, by the way, 236 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the only basis for this is psychological right. They're not 237 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: talking about gender transitioning. People who are born intersects that's 238 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: not the discussion or debate. The Biden White House put 239 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: this out today. They're doubling down on this agenda right now. 240 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: Given all we've seen with Disney and the Villain Florida 241 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: and everything else, tells you a lot, folks. It makes 242 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: me wonder too, when we come back, what percentage of 243 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: kids do you think end up regretting the choice right 244 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: when you're ten, if you suddenly get your genitals chopped out, 245 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: chopped off? How many people when they're twenty, they're like, 246 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, I wish I hadn't done it, by the way, Unfortunately, 247 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: a huge percentage. There's a lot of woke cowardice in 248 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the medical community now, as we saw all throughout COVID. 249 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious not with the doctors who are 250 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: doing their best, and I'm talking about the doctors who 251 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: are blue checks going on TV and saying, you know, 252 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: triple mask your kids in school because I worship Fauci. 253 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: The medical community is full of a lot of cowardice 254 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: on this issue too. They will not speak the truth 255 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: about the long term consequences and effects of this transition 256 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: process and what the ten year, fifteen, twenty year outlook 257 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: is Clay. It is bleak, bleak for many, many people 258 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: who do this from a health and mental health perspective, 259 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: and that used to be well known, but now we're 260 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about it anymore. All Right, we'll 261 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: come back into more and including Mornda Divine on the 262 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Laptop from Hell, the book she wrote. Stay with us 263 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: on that Pure Talk customers give us the best feedback 264 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: on the cell phone service they're now getting. These are 265 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: folks who have switched over from AT and T, Verizon 266 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: or T Mobile. We see the comments and hear the 267 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: good news. 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We're 282 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: going to come back to the issue of Biden administration 283 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: pushing transgender surgery and treatment for miners litter on the program. 284 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: We've also got a friend, Gordon Chang at the top 285 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: of the next hour on the situation right now in 286 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: China as it pertains to both COVID lockdowns and also 287 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. How is China helping or not 288 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: helping Vladimir Putin? 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I'm gonna 324 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck up a little bit. I think you 325 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: and your Post colleagues deserve like ten years of retroactive 326 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: Pulitzer Prizes since the Pulitzer was rewarded for all those 327 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Russia collusion stories that didn't have any basis in reality. 328 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: And your story is suddenly being confirmed everywhere. What do 329 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: you attribute the New York Times, The Washington Post, CBS, ABC, CNN, 330 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: NBC to suddenly deciding after eighteen months, Oh, this story 331 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: is kind of a big deal and the laptop is real. 332 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: Why is it happening now? I claimed, Look, I think 333 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that the US Attorney in Delaware, which 334 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: has been investigating Hunter Biden for tax evasion and money 335 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: laundering and violation violations of the Foreign Agent Registration Act 336 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: pretty hefty crimes if they were committed, those are pretty 337 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: hefty allegations, and they've been investigating him since twenty eighteen, 338 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: and it looks as if it may be coming to 339 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: fruition fairly soon. We know now that Hunter Biden's business 340 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: partners have gone and have been subpoenaed and appeared. We 341 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: know Devin Arch and one of his former business partners 342 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: testified and handed over documents, and we know that his 343 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: baby mama and another ex girlfriend also appeared. So all 344 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: of that put together, I think is making the rest 345 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: of the media that ignored our story for the last 346 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: eighteen months realize that they don't want to blindside their audiences, 347 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: that they need to actually soften them up and prepare 348 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: them for what maybe coming down the pike. And that's 349 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: the only reason they're still running interference for Joe Biden. 350 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: You know, both CNN and the Washington Post, you could 351 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: have almost identical sort of disclaimers in their stories in 352 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: the last two days saying there's no evidence that Joe 353 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: Biden was involved, which is ridiculous because we know Washington 354 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: Post has has the laptop, it has possession of the 355 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: laptop and there's plenty of evidence there. Well, Marine, I 356 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: want to ask you specifically about that. You know, we 357 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the last hour when we brought you on, we'd 358 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: pose to you to put it in shorthand the ten 359 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: percent for the big guy line. A lot of people 360 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: know that one from Hunters communications about kicking money off 361 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden. What is I mean to the extent 362 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: that we have information evidence already, what is there at 363 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: least pointing in the direction of a real financial connection, 364 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: not just a Hunter Biden we know about that, but 365 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden himself. Well, let's just start very basically. 366 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden lied to the American people. That is a fact, 367 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: and it is proven by the evidence because he said 368 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: before the election several times to the media he said, 369 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: I know nothing about my son Hunter's overseas business dealings. 370 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: He hadn't met with any of the Hunter's partners so called. 371 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Yet there is so much evidence of all the partners 372 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: that he met from all over the world. He met 373 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: them in Beijing, he met them in Washington, d C. 374 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: So that's a line. Then you come to the financial entanglements. 375 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: We know and it's circumstantial. We know that there that 376 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden complained busterly about having to give what he 377 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: said was half his salary to his father. We know 378 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: that there are emails there showing that part of one 379 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Chinese deal, a ten percent was going to the big guy. 380 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: We know from Tony Bobolynski, who is one of Hunter's 381 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: former business partners, who gave a press conference before the 382 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: election campaign that was ignored by that section of the media. 383 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: We know that he has said that Joe Biden is 384 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: the big guy. That was the way Hunter described his father. 385 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: They sort of spoken code about Joe Biden, but he 386 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: was the big guy. He was my chairman. Hunter called him, 387 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: and Joe was told about all these deals. He knew 388 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: about them. He Hunter was in contact with him every day. 389 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: And so that's that. And then we also know that 390 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: there was some mingling of finances, so you know, a 391 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: shared debit cards, shared bank account. This is from Hunter's 392 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: own own words on the laptop. And also there is 393 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: an email from one of Hunter's business partners, a guy 394 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: who used to run all his you know, the details 395 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: of his for his life basically because Hunter was a 396 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: crack addict. And this guy, Eric Swarren, talks about taking 397 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: money out of an account like a special account of 398 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: Hunters to pay for Joe Biden's maintenance and upkeep and 399 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: renovations on his house. This was, you know, ten thousand 400 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: dollars here, two thousand dollars there, not huge amounts of money, 401 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: but also paying an AT and T phone bill every month. 402 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Hunter was paying one of Joe's phone bills. So that's 403 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. I think that's all the 404 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: evidence that we have, but it's enough. You know. It 405 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: shows that there is money going from Hunter to Joe, 406 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: that Joe was being talked about as getting cups of deals, 407 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: and that they had co mingled finances. I mean, what 408 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: Morty needs, Miranda, All this detail is great and I 409 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: know you've been covering this story now for a long time. 410 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: Couple of questions, do we know if Tony Bobolinsky has 411 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: been called by the grand jury to testify in the 412 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden investigation? Second part of this question, we don't know. 413 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: You do you know the answer to that one? I do? 414 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Has he testified? I can't answer that? Ah well that 415 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: is intriguing, all right? So, uh so, second part of this, 416 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: if Tony Bobolinsky is testifying, and even if he does not. 417 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: What you mentioned as it pertains to Joe Biden is 418 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: he's lied. He certainly lied to the American public. Lying 419 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: to the American public is not a crime, right. But 420 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: if Joe Biden were called to testify as a witness 421 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: in this Hunter Biden grand jury investigation, he would be 422 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: put under oath and he would be asked about all 423 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: of these emails, the Big Guy emails, the co mingling 424 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: of the finances, potentially meeting some of these business partners 425 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: with Chinese interests and Ukrainian interest Do we think that 426 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden might be subpoena to himself as a witness 427 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: in the Hunter Biden investigation? Have you heard any intimation 428 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: that that might occur? No, I haven't. I mean, all 429 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: I know is that the Republicans are talking about investigating 430 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: this and you know, using the laptop as a roadmap. 431 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: And I know I spoke to Ron Johnson yesterday. You 432 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: know he talks about the you know, he and Chuck 433 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: Grasley did incredible work. That's the Laptop's not enough. You 434 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: need also the information that Tony Bobolinski handed to the 435 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: FBI his testimony, but also what Ron Johnson, Chuck Grasley did. 436 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Now that's what the Republicans will do. They will build 437 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: on already an immense amount of very useful financial information 438 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: tracking the money for some of these deals. And Ron 439 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: Johnson tells the story. Told me yesterday that the obstruction 440 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: from the Democrats was one thing, you know, calling at 441 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, accusing him and Gradlely of being at Kremlin 442 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: stooges organizing these fake FBI briefings and then leaking to 443 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: the press. That's bad enough, but really what sty means 444 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: their investigation when the Republicans had control was their own 445 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: Republican senators who got squeenish thought that the investigation into 446 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was too political. Who knows what relationships they had. 447 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they felt sorry for Joe Biden, you know that 448 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: friendly with him, he used to be a senator. But 449 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney and Rob Porton and both Republican senators just 450 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: refused to go along with some of these subpoenas that 451 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson wanted to. Ron Johnson wanted to subpoena Hunter 452 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: Biden and Demon Archer and these people. So if the 453 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Republicans themselves do not hold together as a team after 454 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: the mid terms, then forget about it. This is the problem. 455 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: You have Republicans who are squeamish in that party and 456 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, are helping to protect Joe Biden, and 457 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: it's just not right. And if they hadn't obstructed their 458 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: own comrade in Ron Johnson, then these stories about Joe 459 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Biden would have already come on the public record, and 460 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, history would have been changed. Joe Biden probably 461 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be president today. Miranda, first of all, ever told 462 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: go get the book Laptop from how Miranda Divine's book 463 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: that's out now been out for a while. Where do 464 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: you see all of this going? What can you tell 465 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: us about what you're expecting in the weeks ahead, Because 466 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: I know some people who saw the laptop hard drive 467 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: mirror in the early days who are telling me now 468 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot more coming. Yeah, well, I'm not sure 469 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot more in the laptop No. No, I 470 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: mean about the Hunter Biden case. Since yeah, yeah, yeah, 471 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: well so Hunter Biden. You know, I guess the most 472 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: likely thing is that there will be indictments coming out 473 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: of that grand jury of Hunter Biden. Also, I'm told 474 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: that half the focus of the questioning from that grand 475 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: jury has been on Blue Star Strategies, which is that 476 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: democratic lobbying firm which was basically dragged in by Hunter 477 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: and Devon Archer into their Barisma dealings, that corrupt Ukrainian 478 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: energy company. Blue Star Strategies was doing some lobbying on 479 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: behalf of Barisma allegedly, and that would put them in 480 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: violation of this Sarah Act, which is SARAH, which is 481 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: foreign agent registration. You're supposed to register as a foreign 482 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: agent if you're doing lobbying for overseas companies. And this 483 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: is you know, a little used crime until the Trump world, 484 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: we started being weaponized against Trump World, and you had 485 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Paul Manafort, who was part of Trump's campaign, was went 486 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: to jail over it. And another guy, Tom barreck Is, 487 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: there are some allegations there he's been caught up in 488 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: some investigation to do with Sarah. And they're even um, 489 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, SARAH is being recognized against Rudy Giuliani. So 490 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: this is now regarded as a serious crime with serious penalties. 491 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: So Blue Star Strategies, there are allegations are about that. 492 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: So I think there are something momentous will come out 493 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: of that grand jury. Who knows when, but certainly they've 494 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: been hearing testimony from Hunter's partner since at least last summer. 495 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Miranda Buck and I have a steak bed on this. 496 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: She already waited and she thinks it's nervous. She already 497 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: sitting across. I just want to make this clear. I'm 498 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: betting a steak that he will get indicated. Buck doesn't 499 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: think he will. Would you take my side or buck 500 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: side of the bed here? Well, I would take your 501 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: side only because I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming, 502 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: and I think there's so much you know, people looking 503 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: at this story that it would be such a terrible 504 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: blow to the kind of reputation of the US attorney 505 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: in Delaware that I'm not sure that they're going to 506 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: let Hunter off the hook. But I think what might 507 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: happen is that Blue Star strategies might you know, take 508 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: precedence and take up a lot of the media time, 509 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: and maybe Hunter will get lesser charges. I mean there's 510 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: talk of in the New York Times in fact, where 511 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: they rehearsed his defense, there was talk of downgrading criminal 512 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: charges for Farah to civil charges registered retroactively. To be clear, 513 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: our bet is that it has to be criminal charges there. Miranda, 514 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, I don't think so. Okay, well I'm 515 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the fence here. Then in that case, 516 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: who knows, I mean other people. He's paid a million, 517 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: He borrowed a million dollars from some generous benefactor to 518 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: pay hiss. But he did it. Ask to the investigation 519 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: that started and with me and morsels that you and 520 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: may if we do that doesn't get ashop. The book 521 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: does not. Indeed, that's true, all right, Marianna, thanks so much. 522 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Laptop from Hello's the book. Everybody go check it out. 523 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Mirenda. She and her compatriots, You guys deserve ten Pulitzers. 524 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: On nine to eleven, two thousand and one, two thousand, 525 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy seven people were killed in a 526 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: terrorist attack on American soil. It was a day that 527 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: changed our nation forever. 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Welcome back in 544 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We are closing out the 545 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: second hour of the program. Buck most interesting thing from 546 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine there and she is fantastic. She wouldn't tell 547 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: us whether Tony Bobolinski, she couldn't tell us has potentially 548 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: testified in front of that grand jury. The reason why 549 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: that's significant is if he testifies, then it really opens 550 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: the door to Joe Biden getting called as a witness 551 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: and having potentially to go under oath himself in the 552 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: investigation of his son Hunter's business dealings, and he could 553 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: be directly asked about the big guy emails, about whether 554 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: he met with any of these people. It would be 555 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: a seismic event and to me, it potentially could happen. 556 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: And you know, there's so much arrogance in the Democrat 557 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Party and the Democrat aligned or ordered media here because 558 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: this has all been known, this stuff about Hunter, not 559 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: the drug use or whatever, because that's what they always 560 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: fall back on, always just the you know, he's just 561 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: a guy who's got some drug problems. No, no no, no, no 562 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: no one. There's no national security issue of Hunter Biden's 563 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: drug use. There is an issue when you're talking about 564 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: someone who's been taking money from foreign adversaries in the 565 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: case of China, and corrupt nations in the case of Ukraine, 566 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: whose dad is directing foreign policy. Biden said on camera, 567 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: this is known that he said, you fire the prosecutor 568 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: Shoken who was looking into Barisma, or you're not getting 569 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: a billion dollars of loan guarantees. I mean that looks 570 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: to everybody else, considering that his son was on the 571 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: board of Barisma at the time, like quid pro quo corruption, 572 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: that looks like a major problem, or even if even 573 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: if it was on the board later. The point is 574 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: they're paying his son off with the hopes that he 575 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: would tell dad to shut down the investigation into corruption 576 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: in Ukraine when his dad was VP and in charge 577 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: of that portfolio. They knew all this claim. I was 578 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: at the Hill dot Com when John Solomon, my colleague there, 579 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: broke a lot of these stories, and with Sarah Carter 580 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: or Fox News too, by the way, when they broke 581 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: these stories, and the Democrats just figured, whatever, we'll just 582 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: lie to people. And they were right in so far 583 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: as they're able to lie right before the election. But 584 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: they can't cover all this stuff up forever. That's the problem. 585 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: And now I think they're starting to realize maybe they'll 586 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: want to That's where we are, because they realize Biden's 587 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: too much of a liability if he doesn't win. They 588 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: don't care for him. I want to know if he's 589 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: going to be put under oath. I mean, that's the 590 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: number one story that I'm not seeing anybody ask Because 591 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: lying to the American public about this story is not 592 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: a crime, it certainly should be a reason not to 593 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: vote for him. But by the way, Remember they impeached 594 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: Trump for that Ukrainian call to point out the incredible 595 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: potential lawlessness of the Biden family. Yes, Hunter Biden was 596 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: engaged in corruption in Ukraine and his dad fired the 597 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: prosecutor who was looking at Barisma, who was paying off 598 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, and then they impeached the president for saying, yeah, 599 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: you got to look into that thing. Sorry, just because 600 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is important Democrats doesn't mean the laws don't 601 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: apply to them, and doesn't mean the president Trump wasn't 602 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: allowed to have that conversation. It was a perfectly one 603 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: percent fine conversation, as Trump said, Not only was it 604 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: a fine conversation, arguably it's exactly what a president should 605 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: be doing if these allegations are out there, trying to 606 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: uncover them. Remember the story here that no one wants 607 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: to acknowledge. The Biden family is everything they told you 608 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: The Trump family was Sleet Travis and Buck Sexton on 609 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: the front lines of truth.