1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he arm Strong and. 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 3: An eerie silence here that's not necessarily indicative of a 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: sea change. 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: We've heard from military. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: Sources they saw a slight downtick in Russian artillery use, 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: but still in a small window. Four or five artillery 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: piece is firing, a big amount of Russian surveillance drones 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: in the sky, and even recently a Russian jet taking off, 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: so not an immediate sign of the guns falling silent. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: There's great cynicism here amongst Ukrainian forces. They saw the 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: brief easter cease fire that Russia also called unilaterally as 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: essentially a time the Russia seemed to reposition its troops 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: and then launched greater assaults in the hours afterwards, using 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: the lulls the tactical advantage. 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: So that's Putin's got his big. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: May celebration about Russia winning World War Two as he 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: presents it, and the big thing they do every year 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: in Russia and Ukraine had been attacking Moscow like crazy 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: with drones, so they had to close down the airports, 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: I mean, causing all kinds of disruptions as Putin was 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: trying to get the big celebration together. And I'm big 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: into this story as a lot of you know. I've 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: been listening to the Ukraine the Latest. It's the London 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: Telegraph podcast. They have a daily on the Ukraine story 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: that is freaking awesome. If you're into the story, it 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: is so good. But anyway, they were pointing out that 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: she coming to town in Moscow is a bit of 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: a using a human shield to protect for Putin to 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: be able to protect these May Day celebrations or they 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: think Ukraine would have attacked them and really disrupt that 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 4: have been caused a great embarrassment to Putin. But Putin 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: having president she in town Ukraine's not gonna dam you know, 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: hurt she or causing problems there. 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: That would be well, I'd be insane. 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that topic before we move on, I 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: came across this and I found it very very interesting. 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Barton swain Rod it wrote it about what Trump fails 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to understand about Putin. We've talked about this a little bit, 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: how Putin could not care less that too many people 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: are dying in Ukraine. 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just he does not care at all. 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: And I found this very interesting because I knew part 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: of this, kind of the broad outlines of it. But 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: as Gary Saal Morrison explained in a superb twenty twenty 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: three essay, do Russians worship? War Putin fully embraces the 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: centuries old myth of Russia as the victim of betrayal 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and exploitation. And he goes through some of the history 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: of it, and it's literally centuries old that the myth, 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: the Russian myth is not myth is in fiction. But 52 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: this is one of the stories we tell ourselves that 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: helps us understand what our civilization is, like the American 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: myths of the revolution and opportunity and equal rights and stuff. Again, 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: it's not myth is in fiction, it's in These are 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: the stories that bind us together. But oh my god, 57 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I hate to break in, but breaking news. I know 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: all of America is waiting white smoke. Maybe the cardinals 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: are vaping. Turns out the cardinals are just vaping. 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Look at the people. Maybe it's that meth smoking raccoon. 61 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: Look at the people jumping up and down and crying. 62 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, in Vatican Square because there's a new pope all right, 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: anyway name it will tell. 64 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: You and and folks soon we won't have to hear 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: anything more about it. 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: That's a good point. There you go, God bless us all. 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, getting back to this twenty twenty three essay 68 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: about the history of Russia and how Russia must always 69 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: fight foes bent on stealing its wealth destroying his people. 70 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: May Night, the day Nazi Germany surrendered to the Soviets 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, is for Russians the most important holiday 72 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: of the year, consecrated by the Russian Orthodox Church mister 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: Morrison Wright. They sense their kinship with the mystical body 74 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: of the people, passed and present. War in Russia, he explains, 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: is a kind of civic sacrament. Newly weds frequently placed 76 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: flowers on the tomb of the unknown soldier in Moscow, 77 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and criticizing the military is often considered blasphemous. In American 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: war movies, the true heroes, or most of them, survive, 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: most of them. 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: By contrast, countless. 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Russian war movies and novels feature as much death as possible. 82 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: The story is not. 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Complete if anyone beside the one reporting the events survives 84 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the more death, the greater the heroism. 85 00:04:59,200 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 4: Wow. 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: An interesting cultural difference. 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: And you know, a Bart and Swayin posits that mister 88 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Trump's lamentations about all the killing in destruction Ukraine will 89 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: likely have the opposite of the intended effect on mister Putin. 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: That at any rate, is a reasonable conclusion from mister 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: Putin's latest pronouncement that any agreement to end the war 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: must include Russian control of four territories that they don't 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: currently fully controlled Denette's, Kersson, Luhansk and Zaphyarisia. 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, the whole there are too many people dying. 95 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: That's it's like telling me there's too much golf, too 96 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: many gen and tonics. It's like, what do you I 97 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: don't even we're not communicating here. Putin doesn't care. 98 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Well this daily podcast that I listened to out of 99 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Great Britain, they're heavily pro Ukraine, as Europe is, and 100 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: so they have every reason to look for good news. 101 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: But they're convinced that Russia is really close to collapse 102 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: in terms of their military that they're just flat. I mean, 103 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: there's a there is a finite limit to equipment and people, 104 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: it's not unlimited and they have lost a million people 105 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: from the battlefield. I mean numbers nobody's ever heard of 106 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: in the history of the world of warfare in that 107 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: amount of time, and that they may be close to 108 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: like actually collapsing. And perhaps Trump is you know, aware 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: of that, NATO's aware of that, and we just know 110 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: that's what we're waiting for. I don't know. 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Again, now they signed whatever on holy deal with North 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Korea to import cannon fodder as a luxury. I think 113 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: they did it because they really kind of needed to. 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I would guess that, and I feel pretty good about 115 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: my guests. Oh, speaking of Russia, one more thing, the 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: British government is updating the Cold War era Government War Book, 117 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: a detailed plan for dealing with an attack on the 118 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: nation by a foreign power, specifically Russia, to be connectic 119 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: attacks and cyber attacks too, which is obviously a new wrinkle. 120 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: But they are going to revise it and put it 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: out and publicize it and train officials on it. They 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: are at a pre war footing, but a we can't 123 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: have this catch us flat footed point, as is a 124 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: lot of Europe right now. 125 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Americans. 126 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: Consider the question of the spread of warfare to be 127 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: a purely rhetorical question, right, yeah, whereas in Europe, no, 128 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: they are seriously concerned about it. 129 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 4: So white smoke above the Vatican. They got a new pope, 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, pretty quickly, the new Pope comes 131 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: out on the balcony and speaks, which is sometimes a 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: big deal. 133 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Always thank his agent, Thanks Harvey Weinstein, and and then 134 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: everybody at Merrimax they start playing five hundred year old 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: music to play him off. 136 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: Your time is up. I remember John Paul the Second 137 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: when he came out fear not. The crowd went crazy. 138 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: But if anything happens around that will bring it to you. 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: Another ancient Catholic speaking today, we're just starting to get 140 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: clips from Joe Biden. So Joe and Joe Biden are 141 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: on the View today. It hasn't aired yet, we're getting 142 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: some clips. I was just reading some of the headlines 143 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: of things he said, who clearly nobody has any control 144 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: over him, and Jill must be making these incredibly unwise 145 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: decisions to put him on television. As Joe said last hour, 146 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: it's doing him zero good, only harm and the entire 147 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 4: Democratic Party and really any person of left politics. It's 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: hurting everyone there's no advantage to be had by him 149 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: going on the View and claiming, like I just read 150 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: up there that of course Trump won. He had built 151 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: an image of we can't elect a biracial woman or something. 152 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: That's his excuse, And Biden apparently said on the View 153 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: today he thinks he would have won. 154 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: Who is that for? 155 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Boy the BBC interview the other day, he was incoherent, 156 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that anybody would listen to that performance 157 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: and say, yep, let's plunge on with the media tour 158 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: is a measure of their depravity or stupid. I don't 159 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, so it's difficult for me to 160 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: like criticize their strategy. 161 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: I can't imagine what their strategy is there. It explains 162 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: the whole bubbling thing. They're so bubbled nobody can talk 163 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: to them, apparently, because this is insane to go out 164 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: there and trot him out more. I've got a quote 165 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: here and we'll play some of it later. I did 166 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: not create a cocoon around Joe Biden. I mean, you 167 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: saw him in the old office, He saw him making speeches. 168 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: He wasn't hiding somewhere, says Joe Biden on the View, today. Oh, 169 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: that's not the way America interpreted it. We felt like 170 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: he was hiding because he obviously was. Here's a clip 171 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: from the bbcay Aga read it. 172 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: Uh. He was asked if he regretted dropping out of 173 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: the race. No. 174 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: No, we left it a time when we were we 175 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: had a good candidate, she was fully funded. What happened 176 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: was I had become what we had set out to 177 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: do no one thought we could do, had become so 178 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: successful in our agenda it was hard to say I'm 179 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna stop now. It was the right decision. What right Jill. 180 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: Jill is the villain. 181 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Eventually she's a delusional, crazy person. 182 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: Well, she's a doctor. Eventually history will record Jill is 183 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: the villain in this. We'll have some of that from 184 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: the view and other stuff on the way. 185 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: Don't mess with them unless you want to benefit. 186 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: Yes, fair warning. 187 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: I think so a salesman ship here. Maybe we'll fall short. 188 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: But our executive producer, Hanson says, our life. 189 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I say don't over Brian, I 190 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: say build it up. 191 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: I say, low key it. 192 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: Okay, we got a good one for you, I think 193 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: coming up. But anyway, and it'll change your life. Joe 194 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: and Joe Biden on the view. Why is she trotting 195 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: him out? How do they think this is helping them 196 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,359 Speaker 4: or anybody in any way whatsoever? 197 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: But anyway, this is from today. 198 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 6: Now. 199 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 7: You are understandably very proud of many achievements in your administration. 200 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: But do you take any responsible for ready for responsibility 201 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 7: for not hearing the concerns of voters on the boarder 202 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 7: security or cost of living sooner? And do you take 203 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 7: any responsibility for Trump's re election? 204 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 205 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 5: I do, because look I was in charge and he won, 206 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: so you know, I take responsibility number one. But number two. 207 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: You know, you remember we put together a commission leading 208 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: with one of the most conservative members of the United 209 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: States Senate Oklahoma running it. When we came up with 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: a significant means by which we could deal with a border. 211 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: What did Trump do? He got on the telephone and 212 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: he called Republicans, do not support it. It's legal, it'll work, 213 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: it'll make Biden look good. Don't do it. 214 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: And they backed off. They backed off. That's true, that 215 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: was legislation. 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: But Trump showed on day one that the president had 217 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: the power to stop the inflow of illegals in an 218 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: hour if he wanted to, and you. 219 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Didn't, and you're still free to work on legislation, right, Yeah, So, okay, 220 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: roll on. 221 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 6: You are your husband's fiercest advocate and a close advisor, 222 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: and it's been reported that you created a sort of 223 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: cocoon around him and kind of limited his interactions with 224 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 6: the media and others. Do you think you could have 225 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 6: been too close to the situation to objectively gauge whether 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: he could handle a full. 227 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Fime four years. 228 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 8: I was with Joe day and night. I saw him 229 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 8: more than any other person. I went woke up with him, 230 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 8: I went to bed at night with him, So I 231 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 8: saw him all throughout the day. 232 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: And I did not create. 233 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: A cocoon around him. I mean, you saw him in 234 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 8: the Oval office, you saw him making speeches. 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't hiding somewhere. 236 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 8: I didn't have him, you know, sequestered in some place. 237 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what shitful to. 238 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 6: You when they were describing you as Lady Macbeth. 239 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was very hurtful. It was very hurtful, especially 240 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 8: from some of our so called friends. 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, how do they think they're helping themselves? 242 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Eighty five percent of Americans thought you couldn't serve a 243 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: second term because they when they did see you, which 244 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: was rare, you displayed obvious cognitive problems. You did fewer 245 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: interviews than anybody ever has in the modern era. 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw him giving speeches, you saw him 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: in the oval office. 248 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: That's like a childlike. 249 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: That's the denial of a kid with his face covered 250 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: with chocolate saying he didn't eat the cookies. 251 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: Yes, you just have all of these the hens on 252 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: the view Hm, oh yeah right yeah. Oh they called 253 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: you Lady Macbeth and it was hurtful. Oh, because you 254 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: related to keep it up, keep it up perfect. Yeah, 255 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: I find it. I only find it interesting from a 256 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: trying to figure out what they think they're trying to accomplish. 257 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: It's really got to be the two of them. There 258 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: cannot be a possible professional. I think this is a 259 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: good idea. No, it's it's delusional. It's egotism. It's it's 260 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: I've not been. 261 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: A wash in power and influence and be have my 262 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: ass kissed for you know, better part of a century 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: like Joe Biden, and for a big chunk of it. Jill, 264 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how that makes you as crazy as 265 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: they clearly are. 266 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: But they clearly are that crazy. 267 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to imagine going from being as relevant 268 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: as you can get President of the United States senator for 269 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: your whole life. 270 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: We were told this clip is something to behold. Let's 271 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: hear it. 272 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,359 Speaker 9: They're all the the project, the benefits. 273 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: How do you lead the world with having best instruction more? 274 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: How do you leave the world having been out of 275 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: the best health candle? How do you need to go 276 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: without having the best education? 277 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Is more? 278 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: How do you lead the world and you don't have 279 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: that done? 280 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: Woa? 281 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: Whoa, Okay, we're gonna have to obviously listen to this 282 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: more than once started started again, Michael. 283 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 9: They're all the the project, the benefits. 284 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 5: How do you lead the world with having best instruction more? 285 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 5: How do you leave the world having been out of 286 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: the best health careen role? How do you need to 287 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 5: go without having the best education? 288 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: Is more? 289 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: How do you lead the world and you don't have 290 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: that done? 291 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: He did? Hanson said, he did go full Elmer Fudd 292 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: there to the end? What is the okay? 293 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: You know that Barton swam piece of or a piece 294 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: of I was quoting earlier, said, look, they shouldn't be 295 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: dragging my grandmother out either she has dementia, Let her 296 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: play dominoes, smoke her Menthols, and if you ask her 297 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: what happened yesterday and she says, I have no idea, just. 298 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: Give her the dignity of age. Quit trotting them out. 299 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: It's sick. 300 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: We all should hope to have a spouse that doesn't 301 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: do that to us when we're in that condition. 302 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Be good to your meal ticket. You know what he 303 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: gave you that lifestyle, could quit quit embarrassing him. 304 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: How is nobody of any power willing to call out 305 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: Jill Biden as evil? 306 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Here hunter, spit out the crack pipe and say something 307 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: down your paint brush, it's funny your paintings aren't selling anymore, 308 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: and then say something, all right, I can't believe that. 309 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: No host on and it's gonna come out and say 310 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: Jill Biden shouldn't be allowing this. She's an evil person. 311 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: More of that, Armstrong and Getty. 312 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: Wait the naming of a new pope, which is very exciting. 313 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: Like Joe said earlier, I could make up a name 314 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: for you if you want to, and you wouldn't know 315 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: the difference. 316 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: And Alex Baldwyk. 317 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: With traditional ties or traditionalists with ties to reformers, or 318 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: a right gentle man with simple ways, or a simple 319 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: man with gentle ways. 320 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Or I just I I'd like to be there. 321 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: I mean it looks like a happy, forward looking, optimistic vibe. 322 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: I mean, why not hoping for better times and you know, 323 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: peace on earth? What nothing wrong with being in that 324 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: kind of crowd now, and then as opposed for a hateful, sarcastic, 325 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: you know. 326 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Whatever, narcissist. 327 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: If if this guy can enhance the good that's done 329 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: by the Catholic Church and minimize some of the harms 330 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: and some of the scandals and problems, good for him. Man. 331 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: Those those outfits that the Vatican Guard wears, those are something. 332 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Those are some old timey, colorful outfits. Yeah. The Swiss Guard, 333 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: is that what they call them? Something like? 334 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, in they got those big axes they carry around 335 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 4: Harkin's back to win the Pope had tremendous military power, 336 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: like about as powerful as anything in Europe, which wasn't good. 337 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting the Swiss Guard, though, are actually Swiss and 338 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: they're paid with Swiss Franks. Because if you think of 339 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: big tough guys, of course you think of the Swiss. 340 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, you know, but he will go back on 341 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: the view. Yes, who they're gonna have to fight the Methodists, 342 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, bring it. 343 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 344 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: So we got another clip from Joe Biden and Joe 345 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: Biden on the View as they're coming out in drips 346 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: and drabs. 347 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 348 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: So Alisa Farah asks old man Joe whether about his 349 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: cognitive decline and whether the book sources of the many 350 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: books that have come out in recent days. 351 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Were wrong about his condition. 352 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: He says, yes, they're wrong, and then the conversation continues 353 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: as such. 354 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 5: For you, so, we went to work and we got 355 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 5: it done. And you know, one of the things that 356 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 5: that well, I'm trying. 357 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 8: Well listen, you know, one of the things I think 358 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 8: is that the people who wrote those books were not 359 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 8: in the White House with us, and they didn't see 360 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 8: how hard Joe worked every single day. I mean he'd 361 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 8: get up, he put in a full day, and then 362 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 8: at night he would I'd be in bed, you know, 363 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 8: reading my book, and he was still on the phone, 364 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 8: reading his briefings, working with staff. I mean, it was 365 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 8: non stop. 366 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: It's and why isn't he's saying that having trailed off 367 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: and stared into space because he is and was mentally incapacitated. 368 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: Yet not And the fact that he tried really hard 369 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: is not the question. 370 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 371 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Wow, she is it that she's desperately trying to rescue 372 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: his legacy. 373 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: His legacy is terrible. Yeah. 374 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: And if she thinks this is helping man, she is 375 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: not good at pr Yeah. I off with the halo 376 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: effect that happens when you disappear. You're better off with that. 377 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: She keeps reappearing and reappearing and demanding no, no, no, 379 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: we should talk more about his presidency and his legacy. 380 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: As I get she tries to save down the road 381 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: of dementia. 382 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, speaking of Biden's legacy, the Taliban had 383 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: a good year last year. They took in three point 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: four billion dollars in revenue, boosting its cash supply significantly. 385 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Among the return amid the return of Afghanistan is a 386 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: central safe haven for terrorists across the Middle East. According 387 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: to a US government watchdog group, the repercussions of the 388 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration's disastrous twenty one military withdrawal from Afghanistan continue 389 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: to reverbrate across the war torn country. You got multiple 390 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: al Qaida affiliates accessing American supplied weapons seized from the 391 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: former Afghan National Army. According to the Special Inspector General 392 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: for Afghan Reconstruction, US left seventy eight aircraft, forty thousand 393 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: military vehicles, and over three hundred thousand weapons in Afghanistan 394 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: in the withdrawal that saw thirteen American service members lose 395 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: their lives. According to Cigar, which is the group, don't 396 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: be distracted by their acronym DA Da DA, which they 397 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: delivered to Congress on eighteenth. On April thirtieth, the report 398 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: that Taliban transferred many of these arms directly to terrorist affiliates, 399 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: while others made their way to the black market. Pentagon 400 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: assists that are around eighteen point six billion dollars worth 401 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: of US equipment provided to the Afghan Army over decades 402 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: of support. About seven and a quarter billion remains in 403 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: the Taliban's possession. The rest is gone to terrorist groups, 404 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: isis K and other groups you've never heard of, including 405 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: at least four Al Kayda offshoots. 406 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: Well, that was the beginning of the end of the 407 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: Biden presidency. 408 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: I mean he was cruising along at a decent clip 409 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: approval rating until that happened, and all the death there 410 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: at the gages we all know, and then his appropri 411 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: ratings plummeted as people realized grown ups are not back 412 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: in charge as they were claiming, and he never recovered, 413 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: and then his mental capacity became more evident and it 414 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 4: continues to this day. 415 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: For some reason. 416 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Wow Trump administration initially attempted to preserve emergency food assistance 417 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: programs within the country, but the State Department ultimately froze 418 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: them in early April, citing Taliban interference in the delivery 419 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: of humanitarian aid. They nixed several other cash based assistance 420 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: programs given government misuse, lack of appropriate accountability, blah blah blah. 421 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: This watchdog organization discovered last year that American aid partners 422 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: on the ground Afghanistan and paid the Taliban at least 423 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars in various fees just to be able 424 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: to operate in the country and distribute food aid. 425 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: I ain't good. 426 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: It's a scam, you know, an Islamist scam. 427 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, my son. 428 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: Asked a question yesterday that forced me to come up 429 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: with an answer. And sometimes similar to what you're just 430 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: laying out here, it's complicated. 431 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: My son is in a chapter on. 432 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: Islam in school and then we got to talking about 433 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: various countries, and then we got to talking about Iraq 434 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: and the Iraq War and my brother, his uncle uncle Jeff, 435 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: who fought in both Iraq wars, but him asking, you know, 436 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: why did we go to war with Iraq? And the 437 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: first one was fairly easy to explain. The second one 438 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: was not easy. You know, having lived through it and 439 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: talked about it every single day for four hours you 440 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: know here on the air, it was still kind of 441 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: hard to explain to someone how that happened and how 442 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: it turned out. 443 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: What we got out of it, and everything like that. 444 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a story worth hearing. The whole 445 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: Afghanistan Iraq thing during that whole period is complex, and 446 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what we got out of it. We 447 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: spent a tremendous amount of money, not to mention obviously 448 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: many many injured and killed people. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 449 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: what did we spend in Afghanistan before we got out 450 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: the way you just described trillion dollars or something like that. 451 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 4: Paved all the roads which were all completely ruined by 452 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: the time we got out, built all the schools, works are. 453 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: All blown up or torn down by the time we left. 454 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, tens of millions of dollars meant to empower 455 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: Afghan youth, particularly girls and young women. Now the italipandans 456 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: them from schools and that sort of thing. Ah, nice, try, 457 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: nice try. Yeah, the nature of I mean, because I'd 458 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: be more than happy to talk about why we went 459 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: into Rock and what happened and blah blah blah, and 460 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: how Afghanistan is similar in how it's different. But you 461 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: create problems as you solve problems, and if you can 462 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: solve those problems without creating bigger problems, it's for us doing. 463 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: But if you just keep creating more bigger problems, at 464 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: some point you have to find another way. I realized 465 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: that was a completely unsatisfying That was more like a 466 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: fortune cookie than an analysis of our Middle Eastern inventions. 467 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Well it adventures rather, But I think you know what 468 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean. 469 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: While the beginning was very different, the result, I mean, 470 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: at some point they were very similar in that we're 471 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: trying to build a completely different kind of country in 472 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: a country that didn't want us to be there at all. Yeah, 473 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: that's apparently impossible to do, yes, unless you're gonna say 474 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: that for one hundred years and spend more trillions of 475 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 4: dollars than you have, maybe like. 476 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Four hundred years. But anyway, your point is one hundred 477 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: percent true. Yeah, the whacking of the Taliban for harboring 478 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: and supporting Osama bin laden al Qaeda completely legitimate, as 479 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: we all know. So now you have a ungoverned, lawless 480 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: land full of would be militant Islamists. 481 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: What do you do now? 482 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: We attempted to answer that question best we could, but 483 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: it just the what now has never stopped. 484 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: So the new Pope's about to come out, and they're 485 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 4: going to give us the name, wouldn't it be? 486 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: Some of it was Brandon. I think we're ready for 487 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: a pope. 488 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Brandon, like just an American you mean, or just a 489 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: more new, more modern name. 490 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Mmmm. We've never had a Sean. 491 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: No, and Irish they are into Catholicism, so you could 492 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: have a pope Shawn. 493 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: Sure, No, we will have a name probably by the 494 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: time we get back. 495 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 6: Or not. 496 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: Well, we'll finish strong stake. Can you make it up 497 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: if you want to want? 498 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: You know, I like history, and I like Western civilization, 499 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: Western civilization being the best thing that ever happened to 500 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: planet Earth. Clearly, it'd be nice if we can hang 501 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: on to it. But one of the biggest things in 502 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: Western civilization has been the Catholic Church, no doubt about it. 503 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: There are a billion and a half Catholics still and 504 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: we're about to get a new pope. What effect that'll 505 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: have down on that, I do not know. But I 506 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: was listening to the National Review podcast a week or 507 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 4: so ago. I know I mentioned this earlier, that they 508 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: all agreed that the Catholic Church is the most important 509 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: institution in Western civilization currently currently, and they didn't expound 510 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: on that. I wish they would have, because I'd like 511 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: to hear that line laid out. Certainly throughout time, you 512 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: can make that argument, but the power it still has 513 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't quite fully understand. I suppose, I 514 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: suppose you could. 515 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: Argue this isn't Western civilization exactly, but it's one of 516 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: the few forces that's keeping people. 517 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Millions and millions and millions of people. 518 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: Around the world from embracing say, radical fundamentalist Islam right, 519 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: or nihilism, or violent revolution or what have you. 520 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 10: It's a it's at least a system of ethics and rules, 521 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 10: which turns out you might need. We've kind of been 522 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 10: fooling ourselves into believing over the last half century or 523 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 10: longer that you don't need that. Yeah, yeah, Pope Brandon. 524 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 10: Pope Brandon will get us back on the right track. 525 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 10: If it comes out and it's a chick, it'll be shocking. 526 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: Now, that would be a headline worth reading. Yes, it's 527 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: not gonna be. It's gonna be some old bastard because 528 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: they want I didn't realize that they want somebody seventy 529 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: plus because they think pope serving for too long is 530 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a bad idea. Probably they want old guys. Yeah, that's 531 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: probably true. There is, Yes, Yes, Michael, it's like us presidents. 532 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: You got to be at least seventy five. What if 533 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: they had a Trump look alike walk out? Just wow, 534 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: just as a job, just as a job. Psych Yeah, 535 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: got you? You fell forward, didn't you? Then you have 536 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the real guy? 537 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: Come on. Yeah. 538 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: The youngest cardinal I think I saw yesterday was forty five. Yeah, 539 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: you have a forty five year old pope. He could 540 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: be Pope for forty years and human beings being what 541 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: human beings are and everything like that. 542 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: That's no good. 543 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, have somebody worshiped as some sort of well, you know, 544 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: it's in the eye of the beholder. And I am 545 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: not contemptuous with Catholicism in any way, but neither of mine. 546 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: There are aspects of the pope thing that is, he's 547 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: like a demi god. I mean, he's like he's in 548 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: the step below a God. Yeah, are you infallible? 549 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm not. No, I've found many times already today and 550 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: the day's young. 551 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: What's the opposite fallible blind pig who finds an acorn able? Anyway, 552 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: But she said you had something you wanted to address. 553 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Do you have something you'd like to address? I want 554 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: to address getting to see my doctor today. See if 555 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm dying, it's hard for me to think of anything 556 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: of than that you talking about. 557 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 10: GI. 558 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm convinced that this is somehow COVID related. 559 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I or you or anybody who's imagining 560 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: an explosion of weird variance of respiratory illnesses being way 561 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: bigger a thing now than they were in the year 562 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. No, I don't think that's at all. The 563 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: quademic or whatever it was there and just the RSV, 564 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, just. 565 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: I have my first ever in my life month plus 566 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: long respiratory illness post COVID. Either there are new diseases 567 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: floating around because of COVID, or our bodies got damaged 568 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: in some sort of way. We're reacting differently to other diseases. 569 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't know which, but I would be shocked if 570 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: it's not somehow COVID related. 571 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: I've got a doctor buddy who who said essentially the 572 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: same thing. He said, we're still trying to nail down 573 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on, but the human respiratory system and 574 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: the things that we're breathing in what it does to 575 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: us is different. 576 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: Now and we're not sure why. Whoa god? They could 577 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: be studying this for decades. 578 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I got a nice little lab in Wuhan they could use. 579 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: They got decent enough safety protocols. 580 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: Man oh Man, oh Man, Well the price ever be 581 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: paid for this whole damn thing. 582 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: There's a great book about people. I want to do 583 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: a big podcast about it. I just I won't let 584 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: it go. I don't think we should let it go. 585 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I think it would be just a dereliction of duty, 586 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: whatever our duty is as human beings and Americans, honestly, 587 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: to just say, you know, that was unpleasant and move on. 588 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: That's that's just the worst thing you could do. And 589 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: doctor Fouchi's still what he's just still he's still a successful, 590 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: rich guy. 591 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pardoned preemptively. 592 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: That's right, Biden pardoned him going out the door. I 593 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: completely forgot about that. Yeah, oh that makes me angry 594 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: as I cough. 595 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: Read. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 596 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Let's get a final thoughts from everybody on the trew 597 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: to wrap up the show for the day. 598 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: There he is pressing the buttons in the control room. Michaelangelo. 599 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: Michael final thought. Yeah, we need a little happy this here. 600 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: The world made change. It gets worse the Pope changes. 601 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: But Costco's hot dog always says a dollar fifty, So 602 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. 603 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: That's true. 604 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: That's something you can count on in these troubled times. 605 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Katie Green, or a Steam newswoman, has a final thought. 606 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: Katie. 607 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: Well, Unfortunately, according to Kanye's Twitter, Kyle Hitler has been 608 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: banned by all digital streaming platforms. 609 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: It's censorship. Jackie final thought. You're a whiskey drinker, correct? 610 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 7: I am? 611 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, I had some Scotts last night. 612 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: The very first bottle of whiskey matured in a cask 613 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: has been submerged in locked ness, and they've brought it 614 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: up and they're going to suck. 615 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: I think you should bid. How about you drink some 616 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: first and let me watch. 617 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 618 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: My final thought, I've changed it on the fly. 619 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Health's officials lied with the band in fifteen days to 620 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: slow the spread was a lie. Doctor Deborah Burks admitted 621 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: it in her memoirs. She intended to prolong the lockdown. 622 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: COVID originated in nature was a lie. Ifout you bullied 623 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: a handful of scientists into offering that notchious. The article dishonest. 624 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: Six feet of social distance was a lie. 625 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: It was a guess. 626 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: The vaccines prevent infection and transmission was a lie, as 627 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: became apparent to those of us who were vaccinated and 628 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: suffered recurrent bounts of the disease. 629 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: On and on and on it goes. No, I will 630 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 2: not let it drop Armstrong in Getty. You're having up 631 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: another grueling four hour workday. 632 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: So many people, thanks so little time ago to Armstrong 633 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: in giddy dot com, drop us a note. 634 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: What do you think you want to react to anything 635 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: we were talking about today? 636 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: Drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong in giddy 637 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: dot com you'll find the hot links Katie's corner. 638 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 4: He in g swag, pick up a T shirt. We 639 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: will see you tomorrow with a brand new pope. God 640 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 4: bless America. I'm strong and Getty. 641 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: We're in fear territory right now. 642 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 5: How do you need the world have been out? I'm 643 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 5: in the best healthcare in Rane. 644 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: Say one way, sweetheart, sweetheart, listen to please. They need 645 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: to tone it down. Let me say, Let me say 646 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 2: one thing. I don't believe we import our TP from China. 647 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: You know what depends your brand? Applied by doctor? She's 648 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: booty wipe. What what is your brandow chairman? Sheese clean bottom? 649 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Armstrong and Getty