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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Stalley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's you rely on a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. Merely Bo, the Great Ghibbe, the Great z

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Speaker 2: All here, the gang back together? How we living? Boys?

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Speaker 3: Good dude, just happy you're back man, Welcome back. How

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Speaker 3: was everything? How were the travels? Did you do better

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Speaker 3: than I did? On my ife? Was in the air

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Speaker 3: for one hour and thirty minutes to and from Chicago

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. I was delayed all told about five hours.

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Speaker 2: So you know my rules on this now Chicago, now

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Speaker 2: that would be drive for me, Like I'm not flying.

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Speaker 4: I'm not flying that stuff anymore.

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Speaker 3: In and out in the day. I didn't want to go.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to drive twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: But look what it did to you. That's the emotional

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Speaker 2: toll that it did, in addition to just the time lost.

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Speaker 3: I know, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: No, it's awful, It's it is very simply, I'm very

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Speaker 2: it is very simply a a a hope for the

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Speaker 2: best situation flying in America this summer. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: where we at. I was on I was done in

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Speaker 2: in Charleston. It was smooth salon on this one. We

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Speaker 2: flew out a week ago Tuesday. Here's a little hint.

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Speaker 2: Really awesome flying on fourth of July. There was nobody

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Speaker 2: in an airport who was empty, which is great even

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Speaker 2: like the first time, and god knows how long, like

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Speaker 2: all the seats weren't full, which was tremendous.

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Speaker 5: You get to.

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Speaker 4: Sprawl out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And actually got into Montana last Tuesday ahead of schedule,

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Speaker 2: like twenty minutes early. So that was a very very

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Speaker 2: big win. Many highlights. It's a glorious state. Certain parts

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Speaker 2: that are very spiritual to me. Certain parts flat out suck.

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Speaker 2: My dad continues to behave in some of the most

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Speaker 2: absurd manners in the history of the free world. Among

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Speaker 2: the issues. So I he goes, yeah, I bought a chariot,

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Speaker 2: and I said, I go, what are you talking? I

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Speaker 2: go like, ben hur yeah, he said, what are you

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about a chariot? And he goes,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah, you'll see. So we get to

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Speaker 2: the house and sure enough, there's like a black chariot

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Speaker 2: sitting in the front yard. And I said, well, what

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Speaker 2: are you going to do with the chariot? And he goes, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hook up Cruiser, which is one of his horses, and.

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Speaker 4: I have him pull me.

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Speaker 5: Go.

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Speaker 2: I go, you seventy four? Does this I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Does this seem like a good idea?

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Speaker 3: Do you know? What the hell?

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? Why now are you going

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Speaker 2: to have a chariot? And so we were as we're

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Speaker 2: having this conversation, were sitting at the kitchen table and

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Speaker 2: I go, Dad, what in the hell is that? And

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Speaker 2: draped over one of the chairs, was like, you know

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Speaker 2: those spa towels that like velco around your waist?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like those?

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Speaker 2: I go, is that like your Is that like a

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Speaker 2: spa towel? Is that like your bathroom towel? Like hanging

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Speaker 2: over a chair? He was, yeah, so what it's the

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Speaker 2: it's in the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: So what I said, let me get this straight. You

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Speaker 2: want to be ben Her with a brich cloth and

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Speaker 2: at age seventy four.

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Speaker 3: This is where we're at it feels about right.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was just and there was a

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Speaker 2: steady diet of just nonsense him.

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Speaker 3: There was left it.

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Speaker 2: He's unchecked. There's nobody. He's lovely with the children, and

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Speaker 2: the boys had a ball beamsy God bless him. He

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Speaker 2: was teary eyed leaving. They rode horse every day. That

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Speaker 2: part was all great. I did have an escape plan.

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Speaker 2: This was a bit of a bit of a slap

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Speaker 2: was going to Glare every year we're there.

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Speaker 4: I grew up aout an hour and a half south.

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Speaker 2: The only place in America that I've been close to

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Speaker 4: I had that feel to it. Now, I've not been

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Speaker 4: to Yosemite.

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Speaker 2: I bet Yosimite would probably have to Yeah, I bet

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Speaker 4: So we went into into Glaciers. We always do.

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Speaker 2: We always stay at Saint Mary's Great Lodge there right

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Speaker 2: all this stuff near Many Glacier and such. But it

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Speaker 2: is the eastern border of Glacier National Park is the

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Speaker 2: Blackfeet Indian Reservation, So that's Blackfeet land. So that's the

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Speaker 2: sovereign nation. It's their laws, it's their all of it, right,

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Speaker 2: And even as a kid, I was always like, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't be crazy about getting pulled over here,

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Speaker 2: And so as we check into the hotel, and it's

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Speaker 2: you know, we did one at my dad's house, and

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Speaker 2: more on that in a second, and then we went

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Speaker 2: up there for a little reprieve. And so we took

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Speaker 2: and we go. I'm like, well, let's run over to

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Speaker 2: What a win for everybody. Kids, get them a root beer.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wins. We go over there, there's yellow cautionary tape

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Speaker 2: like drawn over liquor.

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Speaker 4: No liquor sales.

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Speaker 2: Dry days because of the Blackfeet, Blackfeet Indian days. So

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Speaker 2: on the reservation they would have they have all the

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Speaker 2: this stuff, and to keep it from getting out of control,

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Speaker 2: they turn off alcohol sales. So it's for the whole region.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a second, you're trying to tell

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Speaker 2: me I can't order a glass of wine at dinner,

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Speaker 2: like this is where we're at. I go, I feel like,

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Speaker 2: maybe you guys should have given us a heads up

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna work. And so like they're like, well,

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Speaker 2: there really isn't anything I look at. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: what are we supposed to have? A coke?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing here? Like out of society.

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Speaker 2: So we had gone up to Many Glacier and luckily

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Speaker 2: my my intellectual backlog of the area reminded me that

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Speaker 2: no longer on the Blackfeet Reservation. And so there was

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Speaker 2: a gift shop at Many Glacier that had wine in

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Speaker 2: perfect What are you allowed.

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Speaker 3: To bring it back?

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Speaker 2: I was allowed to bring well was I who knows?

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Speaker 2: I don't know I did that was it, Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: we couldn't have it a dinner. Like they're like, we

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Speaker 2: but we can't. I go, could use if theoretically, if

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Speaker 2: I had wine, could you serve it?

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Speaker 4: And they said no.

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Speaker 2: I said, theoretically, if I had wine and I brought

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: And it was like a great meal, like it was

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Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain perch or Rocky Mountain Trout, Rainbow trout, great meal,

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Speaker 3: How long was this going on?

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Speaker 2: Five days?

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Speaker 3: Five days?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I sold the guys that guy at the front desk,

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Speaker 2: So I think the very least shoot because there were

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Speaker 2: people livid who did not have the knowledge that I

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Speaker 2: go get stuff. But it was still a thirty five

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Speaker 2: like we were going to go anyway, So it worked out.

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Speaker 2: But so many of these people were like wait what

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Speaker 2: They would try to ordering a beer and the like,

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Speaker 2: actually no beer until like July tenth.

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Speaker 3: They're like, if you went there on your trip though

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Speaker 2: It has to be known. Y So he told the

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Speaker 4: It's wild that that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: So that was good. Parts of the state are stunning.

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Speaker 2: Much of what is going on in Yellowstone is playing

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Speaker 2: out in that state minus all the murder. Yep, the

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Speaker 2: there are pockets of the state that are just exploding

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Speaker 2: without a state population. And then there are parts like

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Speaker 2: drying up. Kids aren't coming back to run ranches and

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Speaker 2: They're losing population. So that was something to see, you know,

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Speaker 2: the realities of that. We got the entire Bishop family

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Speaker 2: a county line farm on the Ponderosa, So that was

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Speaker 3: Wow, so your brother brother came in.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was involved? Yeah, yeah, both brothers, everybody. I think

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Speaker 2: we was only one cousin who wasn't there in the extent.

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Speaker 3: How was that?

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Speaker 2: It was really cool? I mean it was really pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: It was it's just such a different life. Like my

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Speaker 2: cousin Kirsty's son James, is nine and my uncle Kel

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Speaker 2: has a couple of longhorns just to look at, and

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Speaker 4: And this little kid is so used to being.

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Speaker 2: Around cows that he just walked up to the longhorn

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Speaker 4: Could see it. The kid's ten, that's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, I wouldn't get near it, and

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Speaker 2: this kid's just they're just so they The way that

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Speaker 2: they're being brought up is so different. I guess it's

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Speaker 2: the way I was brought up. It's so different from

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Speaker 2: the way that my kids, yes, are being brought up.

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Speaker 2: So of course all that part was cool. There was

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Speaker 2: a pretty a funny moment my middle brother had a

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Speaker 2: We were behind at the Rocky Mountain front behind Shouto

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Speaker 2: and where part of one of the places where we

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Speaker 2: put my mom's ashes and so its spiritual place for

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Speaker 2: all of us. And we go back there and my

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Speaker 2: middle brother like gets out like a scissor. My kids

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Speaker 2: are like, hey, let's let's roast hot dogs and marshmallows

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Okay, great campfire, let's go. My middle brother

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Speaker 2: like has a scissors to like get a like a

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Speaker 2: straight out of of crocodile.

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Speaker 4: Dundee, that's not a knife.

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Speaker 2: This is a knife. And he pulled a machete like

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Speaker 2: and hot dogs on. And as he opened his door,

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Speaker 4: It's a stunning place.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was nice, it was fine, but it

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Speaker 3: Night should be one of races that you have ever

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Speaker 2: But I suppose if you're somebody who wanted to go

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Speaker 2: That, not where I was not where I grew up.

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Speaker 2: But that's what's happened is there's been this incredible surge

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Speaker 4: They've it's pushed people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the rocky mountains go right down

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's tremendous that so that so we made it.

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Speaker 4: So that was good.

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Speaker 2: No, that's went that night that me and NBC had

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Speaker 4: There was some conventions.

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Speaker 2: You can't get water, you can't get food, you can't.

440
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Speaker 4: Do anything other than go to the bathroom.

441
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is impossible that this is the scenario

442
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: that you people have allowed to happen. But yeah, they

443
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: aren't there. To me, there should be. If there are

444
00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: flights stranded, there's got to be one place open. He

445
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: has to be. You got to be able to get

446
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: water at least.

447
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 3: And it just makes sense for them.

448
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: I feel like I would agree, Yeah, I would agree.

449
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: So you had a force nothing better than a forceome

450
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: with the boys swinging the.

451
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 6: Sticks, nothing better. It was great, too tight with the boys,

452
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 6: perfect amount of grip, A great force, the great force.

453
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 6: When I was telling Gibbe, one of the members of

454
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 6: the Forsome with the boys was Brett Conway, the former

455
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,719
Speaker 6: Penn State kicker who then kicked it for the for

456
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 6: the former Redskins, kicked for the three games for the

457
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 6: Browns back in two thousand and three. Had some good

458
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 6: stories about his time here. It was great, great kickers,

459
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 6: typically solid golfer. Yeah, solid golfer. Good dude, it was fun.

460
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 6: It was great for them with the boys, very good

461
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Speaker 6: for some theme.

462
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Speaker 2: So then and so you you got, you got because

463
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: you were out. We were all off all last week. Yeah,

464
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: you went there on the weekend.

465
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Speaker 4: Good times. How about Gibbe talkers.

466
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: Give can't talk? Robbing us some joys so disappointing.

467
00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 2: I hate to see it.

468
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so did gimme have a good week. Gibb

469
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: did have a good week, everybody. I think it was

470
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: just it was a great week. And now we're like

471
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: back and we're totally ready to go. No, we're not

472
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: ready to go tell the twenty second.

473
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready.

474
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: I'm excited to have stuff to like really get in

475
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: and talk about you know what I mean. Yeah, but

476
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: it can this team going, I'm excited.

477
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 5: I agree.

478
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 3: It's just had a great run of golf.

479
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: This Wills tight meals like a tight turn.

480
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: It does feel like the summer, Like it's when I

481
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: really contemplated. It feels terrifying to me that the summer

482
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: is in theory, you know, over in another week.

483
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: Well yeah, for yeah, as far as as far as

484
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: you guys are concerned, it certainly is like you're you're

485
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: locked in. You guys are going to enjoy the Greenbrier

486
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: for forty eight hours, yeah, upwards, maybe to seventy two

487
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: and then it'll be long, but it'll be it'll be

488
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: good at the beginning. You're gonna play a lot of

489
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: great golf down there, so that that part will all

490
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 2: be that part will all be good. But it does

491
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: like are I think the NFL and they did this

492
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: all on purpose obviously, but this whole calendar is tight

493
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: with the draft, when the draft is, with mini camp

494
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: for when the Mini camp is, now this Hall of

495
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 2: Fame game, now that we're in this for the great

496
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: Hoff of course, which we're thrilled to be. But you're

497
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: talking about reporting to camp next week, that's tight.

498
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're just here. They're nine days, gibe,

499
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 3: ten days something like that. They report next Thursday, next Friday.

500
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the nineteenth, right, the twentieth. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: so and then you go. So it's it is a

502
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: tight turn. And again it's been done on purpose, you know,

503
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: with with the idea of there's a television network that

504
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: you got to have, you got to feed content too,

505
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: and all of that. But it's it does make for

506
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: a pretty quick summer. And I think the other thing

507
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: is is not just because QB's and rookies next Wednesday,

508
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: not just because we do this, but I think as

509
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: for you in general, and talking about you the fans,

510
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: you pay closer attention to training camp than anybody did

511
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: when we were kids. Yeah, I don't remember camp. The

512
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: only thing I remember from camp is the only thing

513
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: that I remember from camp as a kid was Peter

514
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: King's training camp tour where he would go to every

515
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: team in the NFL or do the menu and he

516
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: would do like where he stayed observations. That's the only

517
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: thing I remember. I don't remember paying attention to what

518
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: was going on daily in camp.

519
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Speaker 3: No, and even even in the preseason. You you would

520
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: watch it, but it wasn't We just live at It's

521
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: an awesome thing right on in some level and another level,

522
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: it's obviously it's it's more challenging, but great for us.

523
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: We live at a time where there is just constant content

524
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: being produced about the National Football League, and there's a

525
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: desire to consume it at the highest level. Because training

526
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: camp number one, if you're a Browns fan. Number two,

527
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: if you are somebody who likes to participate in sports betting,

528
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: which you know I don't get to do, but basically

529
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: our entire audience gets to do. Or if you play

530
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: fantasy football, you're looking for any little nugget of information,

531
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Speaker 3: and it's all out there. Every team is getting covered

532
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 3: to the level of people know what what quarterbacks did,

533
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: not just because of our show, but around the around

534
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: the country. You could find out, like what your quarterback

535
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: did in seven on seven's in mini camp?

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, how many bad never covered? No never, no, no, no.

537
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Speaker 3: It's just it's a different time, baby, it's a different time.

538
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: It's all good, you know. At least the good news

539
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: is you and I we got you know, got to

540
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: get a get away a little bit, get a little bit,

541
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Speaker 3: recharge those batteries, and and now I guess here we go.

542
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: Although I still would like a few more weeks of golf.

543
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm having I'm having the most fun playing golf. It's

544
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: just a great game, having a great time doing it.

545
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: Would like to it's a win. Yeah, that's a win.

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Speaker 2: Hanging with the boys force with the that's all you need,

547
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: you need you need, my friend.

548
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: All right?

549
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: Some stuffed you did?

550
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: You say?

551
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: Lots to get to I get some stuff. We've got

552
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: some stuff to get to. I'm not going to say

553
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: it's a lot because it's quiet.

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Speaker 3: Kids.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the worst sports weeks of the year.

556
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: You get the All Star Game tonight, you had the

557
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: home run derby last night. You've got you so you

558
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: have that to look forward to, which is a little

559
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 2: bit nice. But this is why the SEC put their

560
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: media days this week. They did this a long time

561
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Speaker 2: ago so that they would be the when the baseball

562
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: is done tomorrow, their media day's hit. I want to

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Speaker 2: say on the Baseball the All Star Games tonight. Media

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Speaker 2: days for them is Wednesday, so they kind of run

565
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Speaker 2: the rest of this week because they're the only thing

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Speaker 2: that's happening in sports through the end of this week.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have a little fun with that. We're off

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Speaker 2: and running. It's good to be back on a Tuesday edition.

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Speaker 2: the sports world. Probably the biggest news in the sports

578
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Speaker 2: world of the last twenty four hours was Pat Fitzgerald

579
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: being fired at Northwestern amid the turmoil and the hazing

580
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: allegations that had taken place in that program. Yeah, we're

581
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: all of an age. I promise you well, I mean,

582
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Speaker 2: none of the three of us have ever talked about this.

583
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Speaker 2: I promise you that all three of us have been

584
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: hazed on a sports team that we were on, in

585
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: a club that we were I definitely was Oh yeah,

586
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Speaker 2: I mean for sure, I mean that was that was

587
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Speaker 2: the way.

588
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: That it worked, whether dangerous.

589
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: No no, no no, but like made to look a

590
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: fool and like a freshman year high school football, made

591
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: to look a fool and in ways that would rather

592
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: not be. For sure, nothing that teetered on sexual assault,

593
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: which is what is alleged, at least in some part here. Oh,

594
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: it's been a part of football clubs. This has been forever.

595
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: Fraternity sororities like this has been going on forever. It's

596
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: just something that has been phased out. I would say,

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00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: what the last ten years being starting to be phased out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that fair? Probably the last fifteen to twenty,

599
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: like it started happening kind of like close after we

600
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: were getting out of school.

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00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there was I'd still remember a lot of

602
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: there were a lot of fraternity sorority hazing, criminal stuff

603
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: that happened, yeah, like a decade ago. And so once

604
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: all that then it was like, yeah, we we're not

605
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: doing this stuff anymore.

606
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so they calmed it down. So what

608
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: is alleged to have happened here is, you know, there

609
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: were there were several players and our guy Greg Newsom

610
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: said was on social and said he saw none of it.

611
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: That didn't buy it at all. They are prominent people

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Speaker 2: at Northwestern who say they saw none of it. Pat

613
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald has hired a very powerful defense attorney to fight

614
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: this and is now going to fight it. So he

615
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: was For those who don't follow, he was suspended on

616
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Speaker 2: Friday for two weeks, and then additional reporting came out

617
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: of the Northwestern newspaper on Saturday that had the specifics

618
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: of the incident that were out there, and then the reaction,

619
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Speaker 2: the public reaction to that led to his firing by

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Speaker 2: the president yesterday.

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Speaker 4: That's the way that all can.

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Speaker 3: I say something it please I don't like that. We

623
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Speaker 3: live in a society. And again I'm not defending anything

624
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: that happened, But what I'm saying is if they kind

625
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Speaker 3: of unemotionally went through and did an investigation and came

626
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: to a conclusion, that's the conclusion. Yeah, because there's public outrage,

627
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: then you bow down and kowtow to that. Our example

628
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: with all and then this does not even have anything

629
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: to do with what the allegations were against Deshaun, But

630
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: it was taken to a federal judge, and a federal

631
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: judge said six games, and then public outcry is why

632
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: that ended up at eleven. Like correct, punishments should be

633
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: punishments not based on people's reactions and emotions and feelings

634
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: about them. They should be based on the merits of

635
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: the case and what the punishments would be in that realm.

636
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: Done unemotionally, that's what it's supposed to be.

637
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more and would say that this

638
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: is always This is probably the most extreme example of

639
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: that because there is nothing less punitive than a two

640
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: week July suspension for a college football coach, and there's

641
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: nothing more punitive than losing your job.

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00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: That's right.

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: So he went from nothing or as next to nothing

644
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: as possible upon the road to gone in forty eight hours, right,

645
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: and nothing changed.

646
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: Nothing materially changed, nothing mater really changed.

647
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Northwestern had all this information, This would be my advice

648
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: to people in public relations. Put what you know out

649
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: unless you are certain that it won't one hundred percent

650
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: certain that it won't, because I think what happened here,

651
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: Northwestern thought that this stuff wasn't going to get out

652
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 2: the exact details of it, and so they didn't release it.

653
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: So then it comes out in the student newspaper and

654
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: it's like people are going, wow, this is actually quite

655
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Speaker 2: a bit more than two weeks, which I would agree with.

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Speaker 2: But so if put out what you know, don't try

657
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Speaker 2: to hide it. You did it on a Friday, it's

658
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 2: a news dump Friday. Put all the allegations out there,

659
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: put the report out there, and then live with it

660
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: at that point, versus trying to like sweep it under

661
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: the rug. I mean, a two week suspension for college

662
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: football coach is nothing. It's absolutely nothing. I would also

663
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: say this, Pat Fitzgerald, whether he how much he knew

664
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: or not, is one hundred percent responsible. It is his program.

665
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: It's his program, so whatever happened there, it happened on

666
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: his watch. It would be like if you're a if

667
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: you're a builder of a home and six months from

668
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: now you build a home from somebody, and then six

669
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: months later they go, man, you know there's a crack

670
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: in this foundation, and as the builder, you go, oh, yeah,

671
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: sub did that. That's not my fault.

672
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: I didn't know. No, no, no, no, that's you.

673
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: It's you. That's your gig. You're the builder. That's the job.

674
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: He's the CEO of that program. It's his job to

675
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: know what's happening inside his program. All of that being said,

676
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: it's very likely that he does what most college football

677
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: coaches do. I know for back some of this, Urban

678
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Meyer did some of this.

679
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: We know Joe.

680
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Paturno did to some of this. I don't want to know. Hey, coach,

681
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: this is going I don't want to know.

682
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 4: I'm good. Go to your position, coach, have him handle it.

683
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Plausible deniability, right, All of these guys are taught this,

684
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: so It's very possible that he didn't know the severity

685
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: of all of this, but knew that some stuff was

686
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: going on. It's also possible that he said, hey, guys,

687
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: knock it off, and they kept acting on their own,

688
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: because how the heck are you going to police that?

689
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: Correct, You're talking about one.

690
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Hundred kids, And.

691
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm surprised, given Gregg's like standing on that team, like

692
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: I feel like he would for him to say and

693
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was trying to find where what

694
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: exactly he said. I don't see that, but he might.

695
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Have pulled it. It was there yesterday. It was a tweet.

696
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't think it's there anymore, but I

697
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: feel like he would have. He certainly would be in

698
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: the know. He was the pretty prominent guy on that

699
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: football team.

700
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think he probably would do.

701
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: Let me see how I can find it.

702
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Just a it is. It happened obviously very quickly. And

703
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: again I'm not even suggesting that he should have kept

704
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: his job in the first place.

705
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: But people need he retracted the tweet.

706
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 3: Okay, punishments need to be made, and then that's what

707
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: the punishment is. You don't public opinion on a punishment.

708
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: I've never seen a punishment where something happened to somebody

709
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: in there like, oh, they don't deserve that, and they're like, oh, yeah,

710
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: you know what, You're all right, let's take that away.

711
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the tweet was, Okay, now this is getting

712
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: out of hand. Coach fits is a great man, which

713
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: by the way, he retracted.

714
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: But that's also one of those things.

715
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: It's a lesson for the kids out there, like if

716
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: you're not sure what you're tweeting about, or you don't

717
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: know the consequence, thating's best to just not yeah, sit

718
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: this one out. But I agree with you, like, if

719
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: he felt the way that he felt, it's just a

720
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: crazy thing. Pat Fitzgerald was the second longest tenured Big

721
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Ten coach. He was there sixteen years.

722
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

723
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean he could have been a head coach of

724
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. He could have been the head coach

725
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: at Michigan, Penn State, could at any job he wanted

726
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: at a various point, and I think he will coach again.

727
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: I think he's got two possible pass He'll either go

728
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: the NFL route and go be a position coach slash coordinator.

729
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Could be a great defensive coordinator, or he'll go to

730
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Saban and Saban will put him on staff as a

731
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: you know, someone who advises.

732
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: Yep, what so. Greg also added yesterday it's also obviously

733
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: we played during different eras, so that could have been

734
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: an experience they had and don't want to downplay their experience,

735
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: but from mine, it was nothing but respect. So this

736
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: these are older allegations.

737
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 7: Some are yeah, okay, it's just going to be so

738
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 7: difficult to prove what he knew or what he didn't. Yeah, yes,

739
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I'm sure you've been.

740
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: I've definitely been on teams where a coach will say, hey,

741
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: knock this off, stop doing it, and the kids still

742
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: do it. Of course that still happens. Yeah, it's part

743
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: of it. The other thing that's happened this is happening

744
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: today the PGA Tour and the live are on Capitol Hill.

745
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: This is fascinating stuff. Did you see where the all

746
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: romanyan One of his initial requests was to be a

747
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: member AUGUSTA and a member of the RNA.

748
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, shoot your shot man.

749
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: Go for it, right why not?

750
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: So one of the things that is that has come

751
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: out is that PGA Tour officials pushed to als Greg

752
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Norman as the CEO and fomisher of live golf course

753
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: during the tours negotiations with the DP World Tour in

754
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, and they proposed that Tiger

755
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Woods and Rory McElroy would own live teams. So that's

756
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: part of it. The documents released by the subcommittee, which

757
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: we began a hearing Tuesday, regarding the planned alliance also

758
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: suggests that McElroy met with all Romanyan, the governor of

759
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund, in Dubai in November, so

760
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: Rory had some knowledge that this thing was headed in

761
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: this direction all.

762
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: The way back in November.

763
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what Congress can do here.

764
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't understand what the point of

765
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: it is. They're trying to say, I trust it. Yeah,

766
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: it's I mean, I guess you could say it's a monopoly,

767
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: but it's a golf league.

768
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 5: It's not right.

769
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: Like a business. I mean, I guess it's a business.

770
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: Well it's not.

771
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: Didn't Trump when he was with the USFL, didn't he

772
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: try to do that to the NFL?

773
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: Yes, with an I trust Yeah, that didn't go well.

774
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: No, there's still it's still a sports league.

775
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: It's a sports league.

776
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I don't.

777
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: I really don't see any any way of how they're

778
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: going to stop it other than to get all this

779
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: information out there in terms of who knew what and

780
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: what they actually wanted.

781
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: That's fine, I guess, yeah, it's Look, the fact of

782
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: the matter is, as we know, they bought golf.

783
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: They bought it.

784
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: That's it, like, okay, like it, don't like it, That's

785
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: just that's the reality of the situation. Now, you probably

786
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: won't notice anything different going to an event watching it

787
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: on TV, but that's what happened. They bought golf, and

788
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: all the best players all be playing in every event together.

789
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that we know that for sure.

790
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: I would imagine they will be.

791
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: Because like Dustin Johnson said that he's still going to

792
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: do live like he doesn't want to play any golf

793
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: golf that he does and he likes to live approach,

794
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: which fits his personality about perfectly.

795
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: Well. I think that there are guys right that have

796
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: money now that means they don't have to go play

797
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: every single stop on tour. You know, they're going to

798
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: be very selective in in what stops they play and

799
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: in what stops they don't, which, by the way, that's

800
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: how things work when people are very successful. No, No,

801
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: for sure.

802
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they know what it's going to look

803
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: like though, because in order for it to work, they're

804
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: going to have to have some of these PGA guys

805
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: play live the team health stuff, Right, You're gonna they

806
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: want some of those.

807
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: Other guys play the other Yeah, and they want like

808
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: Rory and Tiger to have teams, which feels like a

809
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: long shot.

810
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would think that it that it

811
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: most likely would be a long shot, my friend. All right,

812
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: So there's oh one other thing we since we've been off.

813
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: You know, ESPN had the massive cuts. I hate when

814
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: any but he loses a job. I mean, it's just brutal.

815
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 2: But the one thing that is happening in our business,

816
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: and we saw this, I don't know if I'm sure

817
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: you guys saw this with the New York Times cut

818
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: its sports staff over the weekend. They're no longer going

819
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: to have a sports staff at the New York Times,

820
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: which just seems impossible to me to wrap my head around.

821
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: But we are all you're just content creators.

822
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: That's it.

823
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: Can you create content that can be monetized. If you can't,

824
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: then there's no use for you. Like that's it's just

825
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: that simple, Like we do, that's what it is. And

826
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: so like at ESPN, everybody's going at McAfee because they

827
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these people, some of these

828
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: people that were let go were like you know, longtime

829
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: college game day or sports center hosts and all of this. Well,

830
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: McAfee is gonna make three hours a day go away.

831
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah for them, they're not gonna have to worry about it.

832
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: Just like Stephen A. He makes three hours a day

833
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: go away. He does a podcast, he hosts their NBA stuff.

834
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: He's a one man content machine. Yes, and McAfee's the

835
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: same thing. So he's not reading a highlight or doing

836
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: a script. He's giving you three hours of content.

837
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: He is, right, he is the content. He's content. He's

838
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: the content that analyzing content. He is the content.

839
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 6: Correct.

840
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: So that's how those things happen.

841
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: But you hate when people when people lose there.

842
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot of big names, a lot of big names. Yeah.

843
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: Calber's been there a long time.

844
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: Long time.

845
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she left once before she left for Fox in

846
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: the late nineteen nineties, right, GiB Yeah.

847
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: Because it was like thirty plus years right for.

848
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Susie probably all told. I mean I remember her on

849
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: she was like the original host of ESPN two with

850
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: Keith Oberman, like in like ninety four ish, yeah, something

851
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: like that, and then she went to Fox when Fox

852
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: was trying to do like the nightly Sports Center thing

853
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: rival and then ended up coming back to us been.

854
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: She's been there for twenty years now, twenty plus years back,

855
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, do you hate to see that?

856
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Do you think people today would even believe that? In

857
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: many ways the Sports Highlight Show and yes, sports Center

858
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: was around, but in my mind and then my recollection,

859
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: like the first big one was on CNN, right, was

860
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: it Vince Chellini and Fred Hickman.

861
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, with vaner Or Wright. Yeah, but like then Hickman.

862
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: Nick Charles.

863
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: To think that that's what started all of this was

864
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: on CNN today would probably think blow people's minds.

865
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was if Sports Center happened first,

866
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: or but I think you're right. I think it was

867
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: CNN's Sports Tonight. It was on it like nine eastern

868
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: or nine thirty eastern. It was a half hour.

869
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: It was certainly bigger than Sports Center was initially. Yes,

870
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: if the date or the times I'm looking up CNN

871
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: Sports Tonight when it's run was started in nineteen.

872
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 4: Eighty, yeah, so that would do it.

873
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: That's why. But I mean, I think that would blow

874
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: given what has happened on the news channels of that ILK.

875
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was he like a pretty awesome

876
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: sports show was on there. It seems crazy.

877
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Dan and Keith started at CNN. Really,

878
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: I think Dan Patrick was on CNN and Keith Yeah,

879
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: Gibbe's nodding. I think that's true that they started on

880
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: CNN before ESPN took him.

881
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm saying. That's wild. Yeah, so they

882
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: did start around the same time Sports Center debut in

883
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: seventy nine, but it was not nearly it's peak like

884
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: it what like CNN was back then.

885
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: I feel like no, and CNN's was first. I want

886
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: to say there started maybe earlier maybe, yeah, but you

887
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: that was the one, yeah that that in Sports Center,

888
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: and the other thing was ESPN at that time is

889
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: running baseball all the time. So it wasn't always on

890
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: in the summer, especially, it wasn't always on the same time. Yep, sports,

891
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: tonight was on the same time. It was nine o'clock

892
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: or nine thirty, whenever it was. It was every day

893
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: at that time.

894
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: You could get the day in sports.

895
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: That's the way that it worked, all right. Coming up next,

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00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: ESPN's Jeremy Fowler rank in the NFL's best players at

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00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: every position in twenty twenty three, executives, coaches, scouches picked

898
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: their top ten. We will do the corners. Coming up

899
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Faller ranking the NFL's best players at every position

908
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three. They pulled executives, coaches, scouts at

909
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: scouts to pick the top ten. Hello, Gibbet, do we

910
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: have gibbe?

911
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: Give it? Give it?

912
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 5: Hello, Ah give it ye hie hi. Yeah, I'm shocked.

913
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: They can hear me over thirty the hammering, and I

914
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 5: don't I don't know what else is going on here.

915
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: I still put things together on the ponderosa.

916
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: I'm fairly confident. I've got a nice little headache from

917
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 5: maybe the stuff in the building. There's an extensive cleaning

918
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: going I will say this, there is. There is an

919
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: extensive cleaning going on right now. However, I was here

920
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: yesterday and today, so this is uh.

921
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: That's not it.

922
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: That's fine, I'll be fine. Nothing a shot can't cure.

923
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: At some point later this morning, my wife's like, hey,

924
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 5: it's not the weekend and you're back to work, Get up,

925
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: get moving, And I'm like, nah, not yet, not yet. No,

926
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: I'm not ready for this.

927
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard coming back. You almost need a

928
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: vacation from the vacation.

929
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. I didn't do anything except play golf and consume

930
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: beverages and.

931
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you get used to that.

932
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: Oh boy, it is real quick to get sucked into that.

933
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, get used to that a little bit.

934
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: So I played on the hottest day of the summer

935
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: last Wednesday, so it.

936
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: Was a scorcher here Huh.

937
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: It was about.

938
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: Ninety humid because there was like a lot of they

939
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: get rained on the third, it rained a little bit

940
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: on the on the fifth. For the sixth it just

941
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: rained out, but it was hot and humid when it

942
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: was now raining.

943
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, we teed off at there were four of us

944
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: that teed off at seven forty five in the morning,

945
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 5: wrapped up about eleven ten, went and got some BEVs

946
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: and some food, and then teed off again in the

947
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 5: golf league at two fifteen for another eighteen glorious. Perfect,

948
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 5: That's what I was.

949
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: That's great.

950
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: It's a great way to spend a little vacation if

951
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: you're not going anywhere.

952
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm really the point I'm considering everything

953
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: for next year. I think I'm I'm driving no matter where.

954
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: I go next year.

955
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, within reason. I think that's just like the getting

956
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: RV baby.

957
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. There was the in Glacier

958
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: and really all around Montana the whole week we were there.

959
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: The amount of sprinters that I saw, Yeah, robust sprinter

960
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: market appears to have have blossomed.

961
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 3: They're taken over.

962
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're everywhere. So I was looking back at Boots

963
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: after I had yelled at him for like the seventy

964
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: fifth time, and and thinking, you know, a sprinter might

965
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: work for him, That might work.

966
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: I think it'd be delightful for him.

967
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: He'd thrived. Was he just not there are no rules.

968
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: We're on vacation. If you're yelling at him for the

969
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: seventy five I was.

970
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: Yelling at him a lot because he doesn't know what

971
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't know. So, like there was a giant marmot,

972
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: for example, like on a on a huge rock like

973
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: next to the path we were walking on in Glacier

974
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: and like he like sprinted up to it to hug it,

975
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, that thing will eat your face.

976
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

977
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: So like he would want to like run off, Like

978
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: we were out on the Ponderosa and he would want

979
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: to run off, and I'm like, there are rattlesnakes all

980
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: over in this area. You cannot just run off around here. Yeah,

981
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: So that that was definitely a hindrance for his lifestyle,

982
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: was the idea that there could have been that there was. Yeah. Yeah,

983
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: And he's ridden like twice in his life, and he

984
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: wanted me to like let him ride by himself without

985
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: me like holding onto the alter like without me leading him.

986
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you have no idea what's going on here,

987
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: how tricky this could be. But he's so sure of himself.

988
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: God bless him.

989
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: Love it.

990
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Buddy made it through everything.

991
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: Okay, go out with the help of eighty Oh yeah,

992
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: we had We got the updates. She was taking him

993
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: on hikes, so he tried.

994
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: She did her best to cheat her.

995
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Great. She did great. She would send updates. There were

996
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: walk videos of him and made my wife very, very happy.

997
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: I would continue to remind my wife that he's a

998
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: dog and that he's in his home.

999
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 5: I'm fairly confident the people are taking you know.

1000
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: I think he's doing okay. He's getting regular food and water,

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: and he's in a climbate controlled environment. I think he's

1002
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: doing more than fine. Yeah, so he was real excitable

1003
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: last night when we got in, though, real excitable. We

1004
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: got into like eleven and he was bouncing around. So

1005
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: but we weren't tired yet. I don't know if that's

1006
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: if you guys, when you go out west is when

1007
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: you got wes for a long time. I'm and you

1008
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: come back, it's hard to acclimate. I think it's harder

1009
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: going to It's harder coming back this way than it

1010
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: is going out that way. I can flip pretty quick

1011
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: going west to West coast time, but I find it

1012
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 2: hard to go to bed when I'm still on West coast.

1013
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta right. You just have to stay up

1014
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: late the first night you go out west and then

1015
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: you're right on clock right.

1016
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, But coming back like the only way I

1017
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: did it. I just got up like forty five minutes

1018
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: earlier today. Yeah, so that I would be tired tonight.

1019
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: But that part sucks.

1020
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: What's the state of What's the state of the boys.

1021
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: FIFA's FIFA game haven't touched it. See this is I

1022
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: feel like I had my chance.

1023
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, you could get me. I think you

1024
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: could get me now. Because I haven't played in over

1025
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: a week. I don't have a clue. I don't know

1026
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: where my timing would be.

1027
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about the one team I tried it

1028
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: and the thing that I man City, I just I

1029
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: was no good with them. They don't fit my style.

1030
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: Holland's good, but they don't have anybody else that like

1031
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: I felt like I could run with.

1032
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: They would be really good with you playing another team

1033
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: because they're really good in midfield. So when they they'll

1034
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: their other ten will stop things. Yeah the way that

1035
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: you that you would kind of need them to be stopped.

1036
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: Against the computer, I don't know if you'd notice the difference,

1037
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: but against a playing against somebody else, I think that

1038
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: you probably would notice their help. When does Madden drop?

1039
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: Got to be coming shoe soon, right, gotta be coming soon.

1040
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be.

1041
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: It's usually this time of year you start to get

1042
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: a little excited for some some football a little bit.

1043
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 5: August eighteenth, Oh yeah, okay, so a month or a

1044
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: month away.

1045
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: It was so interesting, Like the boys. So we've got

1046
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: the sport cord, we've got the dog, and we've got

1047
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: all these things, and I have to ask them to

1048
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: go use these things. Here, my dad, they're playing like

1049
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: on a gravel basketball court with a chain link net,

1050
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 2: and they shot unlike, which is great.

1051
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: You love that sound.

1052
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: It just eats up balls, That's what I was trying

1053
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: to explain to him. I'm like, there's it doesn't nothing

1054
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: sounds oler than a swish on chain link, but it

1055
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: just tears balls up. You know, you can't you have

1056
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: to use like even a rubber rubber ball gets shredded

1057
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: with them, but it does sound great. And then like

1058
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: my dad's got these dogs and like they're playing fetch on,

1059
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: Like buddy can play fetch go do it with him?

1060
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: Go do it.

1061
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: Only when we're on vacation, when we're on holiday, punks shees.

1062
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1063
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. My dad also thinks they can do anything, like

1064
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: he'll just hand and my oldest can do a lot

1065
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: of stuff, but he'll like just hand the boys one

1066
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: of these horses and says, take him into the pasture.

1067
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, we're not. They weren't.

1068
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: They didn't grow up here.

1069
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: Man, it's a little different, a little different.

1070
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 3: The ten year old walking the cattle the longhorn around.

1071
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. That was crazy, that little kid just

1072
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: walking up nuts.

1073
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: Ye, that's pretty good.

1074
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: No good. Uh do you want to do? You want

1075
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: to do this?

1076
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: Next? Give?

1077
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's move everything back a segment.

1078
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: We'll move it all back, so we'll do the corners.

1079
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 5: Let's move it back a segment.

1080
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: Are you with us the next segment too?

1081
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 5: I think so, paulus. As long as uh yeah, we

1082
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 5: can do whatever. Everything's not needed, and you know what,

1083
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: I should be good for the rest of the show.

1084
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: All right, okay, great, so we'll do thanks for giving us.

1085
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: We'll do the ten best corners list.

1086
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: We will also do a little bit of.

1087
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: A running back breakdown on our roster. You have that

1088
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: to look forward to, which is very very nice. Play

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Speaker 2: at Barkingbackers dot com. We ever, in the conversation ten

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Speaker 2: best Corners in the NFL today, more than eighty voters

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Speaker 2: submitted a ballot at least one position, in many cases

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00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: all positions. They had several ties, so they broke them

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00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: the help of additional voting, follow up calls, so forth

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00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: and so on. So it's the top ten corners in

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00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: the NFL. Who is your favorite corner? Ever? Prime? Yes?

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: There another? Is there another option? I don't know.

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00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: I think he's right, but it's he changed it. If

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00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: you take him out of it.

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00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: Who do you got.

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00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: For favorite corner? Yeah, I mean when I was a

1109
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: kidding next door neighbor, loved Lester Hayes, a big Lester

1110
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: Hayes guy.

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00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: Lester Hayes and Mike Haynes were But.

1112
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: I was a pretty good group, very much a youth

1113
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: at that time.

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00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Darryl Green, Darrell Reevis, Charles Woodson, Champ Bailey.

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00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: Chucky would Yeah, but I also think of Chucky wood

1116
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: I feel like more of a safety at the end

1117
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: of his career for some reason, even though he was

1118
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: a corner. Rod Woodson same thing. Rod Woodson was a great.

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00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Corner Woodson was. I loved Woodson. Yeah, he was a

1120
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: stud man and he kind of was like he was.

1121
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't think people remember how great he was because

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00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: he wasn't as loud as Prime. Sure, his credentials he

1123
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: was a first ballot half. His credentials are right there

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00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: with Prime. Yeah, in terms of accomplishment.

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00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: Revis was like for that stretch was so good it

1126
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 3: felt like it was short though, right, Yeah, it was

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00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: the I mean it's first ballot Hall of Famer, Sure,

1128
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: but it.

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00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like it was quite as long as.

1130
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: Some of the others. Yeah. I hated Richard Sherman, but

1131
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: I like but I also at the same time like

1132
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: him and respect him.

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: Troy Vincent, Terrell Buckley. Yeah, a keep to Lead boy.

1134
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 5: We watched Josh Gordon roast him.

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00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: Keep to Lead.

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1137
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Woodson was on the he was on the All nineties team.

1138
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: He was on he was six time All.

1139
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: Pro as a corner as a corner. Yeah, Chucky wood

1140
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: would be the answer. Then Reeves, four time First team

1141
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: All Pro, seven time Pro Bowler.

1142
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Aneas Williams eleven Pro Bowls for Woodson.

1143
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chucky Wood, Chucky Woods. Are you taking Rod or

1144
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: Chuck Charles Rod?

1145
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: Rod was eleven Pro Bowls, six time All Pro. Chuck

1146
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: is nine Pro Bowls, three time All Pro. So Rod's

1147
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: actually better than although, yeah, Chuck has the MVP. He

1148
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: won Defensive MVP Defensive Player of the Year. YEP, not

1149
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: sure if Rod ever won that. Prime was sixteen, six

1150
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: time All Pro, eight time Pro Bowl So Chuck's I'm sorry.

1151
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: Rod Woodson's was actually better.

1152
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: Champ Bailey twelve time Pro Bowler, only Pros, three First

1153
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 3: Teams and three more second teams. Well, actually, one, two, three,

1154
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: four more second teams. That's pretty good.

1155
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: That's yeah, there were some great ones. All right, let's

1156
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: get to this list.

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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 5: Give a all right, here we go, Zigura last yesterday,

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 5: I think your best one was seven out of ten?

1159
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 5: What do you got here for this one?

1160
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: What you tackles?

1161
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: And he did defensive tackles and edge.

1162
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: Rushers tackles would be tough. Good job out to you.

1163
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: I did good on it. I forgot Chris Jones, though,

1164
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: which is idiotic.

1165
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did forget the number two.

1166
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: That's tough. The ends I was better. I feel like

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00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I got maybe like eight of them

1168
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: out of my first ten guesses. All right, I think so? Yeah, right,

1169
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: here we go. Uh Sauce Gardner yep uh yeah, number

1170
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 3: two too, okay?

1171
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

1172
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: Pat Sartan the second yep one?

1173
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: Numero? Who know?

1174
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: Okay? Big play Sleigh Darius Slay he is?

1175
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: Where is he on this?

1176
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 3: Number?

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00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 5: Five?

1178
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: Five or five? Okay? Jalen Ramsey, Oh, I don't know

1179
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: if he played up to it, but I guarantee he'll

1180
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: be on this list. Yeah he's third, third, okay.

1181
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: A generous ranking. I feel like.

1182
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: Trevon Diggs with the Cowboys, number eight. Alright, so that's

1183
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: five of them.

1184
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: You haven't missed yet.

1185
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: No, I'll say our Denzel Ward. I bet he's right

1186
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: around ten nine, ten nine, number nine. That's six of them.

1187
00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: Xavian Howard. I think he's a honorable mention, uh mention?

1188
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: All right, you have five guys that in this you

1189
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: do the five guys get honorable mentioned, and another five

1190
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: get also receiving voats to get you to the top twenty.

1191
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 4: You can do teams for you.

1192
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I got I got on Jay r

1193
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: Alexander from Green Bay.

1194
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: Yep.

1195
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, So that's seven of them. So I

1196
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: need three more. Yes, I don't agree with it, but

1197
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: my guess is Marlon Humphrey will be on there.

1198
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 5: Yep.

1199
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: And I just don't like to agree on it because

1200
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: it's just a sick state.

1201
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 4: Adam.

1202
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: All right, So that's seven. We need three more.

1203
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're missing number ten and you're missing number seven.

1204
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: Hey you got you named eight of them?

1205
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so that's good. James Bradbury with the

1206
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: Eagles not no, all right, I have one.

1207
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 5: That's that's my two strikes receiving boats.

1208
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: That's my two strikes, So give me the team, give me,

1209
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: give me like a hint on the other two. Buck

1210
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: Eye Marshawn Lattimore, Yep, has he been that good recently?

1211
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: Just here, it says among those who prefer a true

1212
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: man de man corner who wants to challenge the top

1213
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: receivers at the line of scrimmage, Latimore is highly regarded.

1214
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: High ranking NFL officials says complete package. Lattimore is a

1215
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: number one Manda man coverability, has speed, size, physical and

1216
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: run support. Latimer had seventy eight pass breakups since entering

1217
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: the league in seventeen. Penclan penchant for penalties, committing four

1218
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: and four to fifteen snaps last year. This could be

1219
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: a rep because you know, yeah, if there was a

1220
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: time he was unbelievable.

1221
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say the other of my last guests will

1222
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: be for the tenth spot. Tarik Woolen, the rookie from SEATTLEX.

1223
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: He was dominant last year.

1224
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 5: Honorable mention number ten place for Falcons.

1225
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: Oh aj Terrell, Ye, he wasn't as good last year

1226
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: though two years ago he was really good. Last year,

1227
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't that great.

1228
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Here's what they say about Denzel Ward. One who came

1229
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 2: in number nine on this list, was number six.

1230
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 5: Last year.

1231
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: His highest ranking was fifth. His lowest rank, he was

1232
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: out of the top ten just twenty five years of age.

1233
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: Hard to believe, still that young for de Ward, they say,

1234
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: quote one of the NFL's smoothest corns. With elite footwork

1235
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: and balance. Ard has been a top ten fixture of

1236
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: the past three years. Some of the best cover movement

1237
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: skills in the league, a scouting director said. They say

1238
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: he's never made the jump to the top tier. Nice

1239
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: cover guy, just don't like the lack of size. An

1240
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: NFL executive says, his durability. Of course, we know the injuries.

1241
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: He hasn't played a full season in any of his

1242
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: first five years, missing a total of sixteen games. He

1243
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: also just supposed to a fifth streets He's with multiple

1244
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: interceptions along a streak by a Browns player since Frank

1245
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: Minfield and Felix Right. His twenty three point one percent

1246
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: ballhawk rate last year was impressive.

1247
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: Electric with the ball in his.

1248
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: Hands, a ninety nine yeared interception attorney twenty one two

1249
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns off fumball recovers in twenty twenty two. Yeah, around

1250
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 2: secondary hit with the injuries and all of that. He'll

1251
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: miss a game or two, but when he can go,

1252
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: he is a plus and he goes. And an AFC

1253
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: scout says, doesn't play tentatively despite the smaller he'll mix

1254
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: it up.

1255
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: He's really gifted, true alter.

1256
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 3: This list I think is interesting because there's a lot

1257
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: more reputation based people staying on the list, Like Diggs

1258
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: had it down here last year, Jayalen Ramsey had a

1259
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: damn last year, Terrell had a terrible year last year,

1260
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: and Coverage two years ago he was great. Yeah, so

1261
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: they're reps carried over, whereas with the edges and with

1262
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: the tackles especially, it was much more what they did

1263
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 3: last year.

1264
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. Honorable mentions were Xavian Howard, J C.

1265
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Horn. Horn's good, yeah, tra.

1266
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: Davi Horn was hurt last year though, right.

1267
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: He's been hurt I think both years for at least

1268
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: some period of time.

1269
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 5: Yep, and Luxurious Sneed Oh yeah. Receiving votes were Stefan

1270
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: Gilmour from the Cowboys, Bradbury from the Eagles. So you

1271
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 5: had J. C. Jackson from the Chargers, Carlton David from Tampa,

1272
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 5: Trent McDuffie from Kansas.

1273
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: It was like a late rookie, late pickrookie.

1274
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shavarius Ward from the forty nine ers, DJ Reid

1275
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 5: from the Jets, and Tyson Campbell from the Jags.

1276
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jets have a solid duo with Reed and Sauce.

1277
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Anytime, anytime I have a conversation, people talk about the

1278
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: Jets and they're like, oh, that's Roger's overrated.

1279
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: Have you looked at the roster man?

1280
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good.

1281
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: Like they are loaded. They are loaded. If he plays

1282
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: to a if he plays to what he was last year,

1283
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: they'll win eleven games.

1284
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1285
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: And he's never had a I mean the cast he

1286
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: has this ridiculous to throw to, absolutely ridiculous.

1287
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: Garrett Willson is nasty.

1288
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna He's gonna be a dude for sure.

1289
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: All right.

1290
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Coming up next our countdown to the start of training

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Speaker 2: camp position preview is the running backs.

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Speaker 3: We will do that.

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Speaker 2: I assure you of that time for our countdown to

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Speaker 2: training Camp, today's positional preview is the running back Room,

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01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: and we do not have Kareem Hunt on this list,

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01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: so there will be an adjustment there. My friend Nick

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Chubb is still on this list. He's very very good

1313
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Speaker 2: kind him. It starts to get interesting as we go

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Speaker 2: to Doc to Z.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a new look Browns Running back Room.

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: Not only no Kareem Hunt, also no d Ernest Johnson

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Speaker 3: and so it's things are going to look very very

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01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: different in terms of the depth behind Nick Chubb. But

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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb is the focal point. He is coming off

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Speaker 3: of a career high three hundred and two carries. He

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Speaker 3: is coming off of a career high fifteen hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty five yards. He's coming off of a tie for

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Speaker 3: a career high twelve rushing touchdowns. Nick Chubb last season

1324
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred and sixty four total yards, career high thirteen

1325
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: total touchdowns. He's just an absolute stud is what he is.

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Speaker 3: So he is the main man. We will be more

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Speaker 3: pass oriented, but he's I think he will take maybe

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01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: a higher percentage of the overall work. I think he

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Speaker 3: could get involved, certainly in the early downs a little

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01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: bit more in the past game than we have seen

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Speaker 3: in the past. But it's Nick Chubb number one and

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Speaker 3: then number two. That job belongs to Jerome Ford right now.

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Speaker 3: Jerome Ford, the Browns fifth round pick from a year ago.

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Speaker 3: We liked him what we saw in the preseason's ability

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Speaker 3: to run it, his ability to catch it. He contributed

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Speaker 3: really in his rookie year, much more as a kick

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Speaker 3: returner than he did any other way last year thirty

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Speaker 3: kick returns, twenty four point one a return at a

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01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: long return of forty eight yards. Really didn't get involved

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01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: carrying the football or really catching the football. Then have

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01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: a catch on the year, he had only eight carries

1342
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: on the season, they only went for twelve yards. Because,

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Speaker 3: as I said, Kareem Hunt was the number two, de

1344
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: Ernest Johnson was the number three. Ford now becomes the

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01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: number two. The question is do they ultimately feel comfortable

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: with that. Does Jerome Ford show what he needs to

1347
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: show not only in the run game, but more importantly

1348
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Speaker 3: probably in the past game, in the past pro game,

1349
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: to be that third down compliment and give Nick Chubb

1350
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: some rest at times because right now he is that

1351
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: number two. So if it's not him, I feel like

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to bring somebody in from the outside.

1353
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: Perhaps a JD. McKissick, who really is just kind of

1354
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: that pass catching specialist, would probably come in here at

1355
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: a good rate for the Cleveland Browns as he remains

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: unsigned at this time. He's a kind of player that

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: I think would be exactly what we needed in that respect.

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01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 3: McKissick is a guy who has been in the league

1359
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: for a few years, catches the ball extremely well. You know,

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Speaker 3: you look at back in twenty twenty eighty catches five

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: to eighty nine for forty three for three, ninety seven

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Speaker 3: and twenty one. Last year in only eight games twenty seven,

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: catches one hundred and seventy three. So he's the kind

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Speaker 3: of guy that could maybe fit that bill for him.

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Speaker 3: If it's internal with the guys that we have still here,

1366
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Demitric Felton, who's moved back full time

1367
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: to be with the running backs, maybe he ends up

1368
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 3: being that third back for you. They also have John Kelly,

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01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: who always performs well in the preseasons, been on the

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Speaker 3: practice squad for a couple of seasons. Nate mccrary's guy

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Speaker 3: that is going to be competing for the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: And then maybe the one wild card, says Sanhal, undrafted

1373
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: free agent out of Georgia Tech. He can run it,

1374
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Speaker 3: he absolutely can catch it, so may he pushes somebody there?

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest question for this room is does

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01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford lock down the second job? If he does,

1377
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Speaker 3: who wins the third job? And then the other would

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Speaker 3: be do they add somebody at a veteran minimum to

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Speaker 3: this room as this training camp progresses?

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Speaker 2: Don't you think the question for Ford? I mean, we

1381
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Speaker 2: all know he has a talent to run it. We

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Speaker 2: all know he's explosive. He played some receiver in high

1383
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: school and certainly has an ability to catch them all

1384
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Speaker 2: out of the backfield. The question, I think isn't the

1385
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Speaker 2: biggest question, just can he be there in pass pro

1386
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: the way he needs to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that's the question. And that's why I think

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: that if they were to bring in a back, it's

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Speaker 3: going to be somebody who does that, right, somebody who

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Speaker 3: is a pass catching, pass third down back specialist. You know,

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Speaker 3: Dimitric Felton, who's played some receiver for the Browns. He

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Speaker 3: just hasn't really all put it together. He had a

1393
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns his rookie year last year, was really

1394
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 3: a non factor on offense completely. He'll have an opportunity

1395
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Speaker 3: again these four preseason games. Great opportunity for Jerome Ford

1396
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: to show what he can do, great opportunity for Demitric Felton,

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Speaker 3: great opportunity for Asan Hall. I just don't know if

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Speaker 3: that room is fully complete yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, when we would do the questions about like you know,

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01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: where could you add, it was always here and it

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: was defensive tackle. Yeah, those are kind of the two

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: spots that you looked at. I wanted to go back

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: to Chubb for a second. So Nick Chubb from an

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: attempt standpoint, he's now five.

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Speaker 4: Years in the league.

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Speaker 2: It's just a sensational career at this point. Year one,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety two carries. That's the job share

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Speaker 2: with Why am I blanking?

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't even let him start that year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he started nine games outside your boy who You

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: were emphatic that he deserved carries over Nick Chubb and

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Speaker 2: should have been the workhorse.

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Speaker 5: You had that.

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Speaker 3: Then he had Chubb a relationship.

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Speaker 2: You guys said, all the great believe you believed in him.

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, El choppo.

1417
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: And so they go. You got year The first year

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Speaker 2: where he's really the dude is year two. That's when

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Speaker 2: it's two and ninety carries, fourteen before missed some games.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, it's one ninety for one thousand sixty seven,

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: then two twenty eight for twelve fifty nine, and three

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01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: oh two for fifteen twenty five. Last year is when

1423
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: he was relied on the most heavily. The two years

1424
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Speaker 2: where he's been around three hundred carries, it's fifteen hundred yards.

1425
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: Like that's just what you get five yards of carry,

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: Just book it. Here's the thing decisioning about Chubb. He's

1427
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: always been last year's probably the best of not of

1428
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: always been in a job share though. Yeah, he's always

1429
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: Kareem's always gotten carries, you know. So one of the

1430
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Speaker 2: things that I think could be possible this year is

1431
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: for his maybe his overall carry number. Maybe it maybe

1432
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Speaker 2: he doesn't get to three hundred, but I wouldn't be

1433
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: surprised if it's close.

1434
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

1435
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Speaker 3: It could be in that range, you know, of two eighty. Yeah,

1436
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Speaker 3: I think probably their ideal would be between two fifty

1437
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 3: and three hundred. Well, obviously number one, we're gonna throw

1438
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: it more. Number two, Nick Chubb. It's interesting he point

1439
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: out the two seasons that he's had two ninety eight

1440
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 3: and three oh two, he average exactly five yards of

1441
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: carry when he averaged one. Those seasons where he had

1442
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: one ninety two, one ninety two twenty eight, he averaged

1443
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: five point two, five point six and five point five

1444
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 3: yards a carry. So you know, they want to keep him.

1445
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 3: We got a seventeen game season. My guess is they

1446
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: would like to keep him somewhere around let's call it,

1447
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: sixteen carries a game. That would be two seventy two.

1448
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 3: Fifteen carries a game would be you know, two fifty five.

1449
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly where they would want him to

1450
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: be for this football team. Keep him fresh and obviously

1451
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,520
Speaker 3: keep him at his most effective. But Nick Chubb is incredible.

1452
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: He's the only player in the history of the NFL

1453
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 3: to average five yards a carrier or more in each

1454
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: of his first five seasons, with more than one hundred

1455
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: carries in each of those seasons. He's a stud never

1456
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: below eight touchdowns. He scored thirty two touchdowns the last

1457
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 3: three seasons alone on the ground. He scored a receiving

1458
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 3: touchdown each of the last two years. Now, he's just

1459
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: he does it all. The question for Nick Chubb is

1460
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: can he be a guy who gets to maybe the

1461
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: level in twenty nineteen where he caught thirty six passes

1462
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: for almost three in yards. Can he be a guy

1463
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: that catches two passes a game? And if so, I

1464
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: think he can. That just enhances his overall value only

1465
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: to the team fantasy wise. Obviously all of that.

1466
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: He's older than you think too, because of the injuries

1467
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: that happened in college. Yeah, you know, so you don't

1468
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: get your hands on h until he's twenty three because

1469
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: he missed a year at Georgia.

1470
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, with injury.

1471
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: So he's you know a lot of times you get

1472
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: these running backs they're twenty one, twenty two when they

1473
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: come in, you're in your fifth year and you're twenty six,

1474
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, something like that. That's not the case here.

1475
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: Nick's when's he turned twenty eight? It's is it in

1476
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: this season?

1477
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 3: In this season? Yeah, he's twenty seven and one hundred

1478
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: and ninety six days December twenty seventh, he will turn

1479
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 3: twenty eight, So towards the end of the season, he'll

1480
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: turn twenty one. Other thing to watch Nick Chubb is

1481
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: you know, at some point the Browns are going to

1482
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 3: have to confront the reality that given their investment and quarterback,

1483
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: that they're not going to be able to play pay

1484
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: an elite running back, elite running back money, right, and

1485
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: so that this could be a case of where maybe

1486
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: you get even a little bit more Nick Chubb this

1487
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 3: year because you know, as an organization, unfortunately, you know,

1488
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb's not going to be able to be here

1489
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: forever at his current that's the realities. It's just the

1490
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: reality at his current level of performance and.

1491
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: In corner and quarterback and receivers and and it's the

1492
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: way that this sport is. You know, you just can't.

1493
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: The teams that are in the business of paying running

1494
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: backs at the top of the market are not teams

1495
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: that win, not.

1496
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 4: At the level you're hoping to win.

1497
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 3: It I set up before, and I will say it

1498
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: again because I think it bears repeating. There is no

1499
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: scenario in which Andrew Berry and Paul de Podesta, when

1500
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: they think about roster design and allocation of resources, would

1501
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 3: have three of their top six cap numbers be two

1502
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: guards and a running back. No, so that is not

1503
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: going to continue for forever. It just isn't. And Nick Chubb,

1504
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, he is so good, We are so

1505
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 3: lucky to have it. The guy is an absolute stud.

1506
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: He would only be he has four million dollars guaranteed

1507
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: left to him in twenty twenty four. That's it, though,

1508
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 3: so they could in theory you'd save like twelve million

1509
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: dollars there. I want Nick Chubb to be a Brown.

1510
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: As long as Chubb wants to be a Brown, I don't.

1511
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: It would have to take a restructure. My guess is

1512
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: to keep him here, sign a new deal, put an extension,

1513
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: and he'd have to probably give them a pretty good

1514
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: hometown discount at that point, because it's just where money

1515
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: is going to be very very tight, and Browns are

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Speaker 3: got to be very careful how and where they allocate it,

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: and unfortunately it has been the case. And I would

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: love this year to be the one that bucks that

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 3: trend because it means we win a Super Bowl. That

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01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: the teams who have won Super Bowls have done so

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: with either very very cheap rookie contract running backs or

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: committees of guys. It is not at the guy has

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01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: not won a title in the NFL in a very

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: very long time.

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's it's it's been a very long time.

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: So that'll be something to watch, that second running back operation.

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: And then is they is there somebody added off the street?

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01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: What is all of that? Those will be the things

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01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: we're paying attention to in camp. We'll do a little

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Speaker 4: Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I have for a little higher lower percent by keeping

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Speaker 4: from Ohio.

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: From the Ohio out of roots reminds you know the

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Speaker 2: risks before you gamble. Compliments of Cody Benjamin Hank Gibbey.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 5: You know, we're rolling?

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01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 3: We're rolling.

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 5: There were a couple of glitches here from a little

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 5: power supply. But okay, I think I think we're good.

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: I think, okay, good.

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 4: Are we going to be there tomorrow?

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01:13:58,880 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: Are we in house?

1550
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 5: There is a massive cleaning effort going on there, washing

1551
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 5: the outer part of the windows. But again everything somehow

1552
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 5: nothing was touched in the studio and I mean nothing,

1553
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: and yet it's dirtier, like there's a film on everything.

1554
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I talked to our cleaning guys are

1555
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 5: the best, and I was like, hey, I know that

1556
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 5: you're working on the bigger picture stuff. I'm like, whenever

1557
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 5: you get a chance, if you can come in and

1558
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 5: do this entire office from ceiling to floor, that would

1559
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 5: be tremendous. That would be great. They are coming tonight.

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: They say they're good.

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 3: That's there we go.

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 5: So we're getting there. We're getting there. Now, we have

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 5: not set up any of our other things yet, Yellowstone

1564
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 5: and I have to we're kind of like waiting because

1565
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 5: we were hoping everything would be cleaned so we could

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 5: already start the process.

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: But what other things need to be set up?

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 5: So you know that big producer table in the other

1570
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 5: room that all our gears sits on, there's currently nothing

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 5: on it because they tried unbeknownst they went into fortify it.

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: We asked them to try that. You know that the

1573
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 5: one at the top was starting to buckle. Well, they

1574
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 5: took everything off and unplugged it all.

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh boys, Yeah, that's a lot going on.

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 5: Give me so worst comes the worst. We'll be on

1577
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 5: a com rex tomorrow. But I don't know. We'll see

1578
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 5: check back with me like eight thirty tomorrow morning. I'll

1579
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 5: let you know.

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,440
Speaker 2: Where You're going to be very good.

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01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 5: But we're working on trust.

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: That's right.

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,440
Speaker 5: And Yellowstone I would be remiss.

1584
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 2: Oh god, he would have.

1585
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 5: He's a big part of it as well.

1586
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 4: He would have thrived the last week with me.

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: He is a very jealous man.

1589
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah belongs. Yeah, he would have loved it.

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, all right, Time for higher or Lower, presented

1591
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Speaker 5: by Keep It Fun Ohio from the Ohio Lottery, who

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Speaker 5: reminds you to know the risks before you gamble again.

1593
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Speaker 5: Compliments of Cody Benjamin cbssports dot com. His NFL head

1594
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 5: coach rankings that came out last week while we were

1595
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 5: on sabbatical, and we kicked things off with number twenty.

1596
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Speaker 5: Paul highery. Our guy, Kevin Stefanski comes in at number twenty.

1597
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 5: The three coaches in front of him, Kevin O'Connell at seventeen,

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel at eighteen, Mike McCarthy at nineteen, the two

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Speaker 5: behind him, Ron Rivera at twenty one, Dan Campbell at

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Speaker 5: twenty two. Zigura coach Stefanski higher lower, just right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just in many ways, it's just indicative

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: of what we've been since his first year. He was

1603
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: the NFL's Coach of the Year, that's right. Since then

1604
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: we have not gone to the playoffs. You know, twenty

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 3: twenty one was a very disappointing season. Last year. I

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: almost think you have to throw it out. And I

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: think the fact that he got you know, Jacoby Brisett

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 3: in this offense to play as a top ten offense

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01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 3: that speaks volumes to his talents, but this is as

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Speaker 3: a head coach, not just an offensive coach. And obviously

1611
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: changes were made at other places on the team where

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: he felt there were issues to address. It just has

1613
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: not been good enough to get everybody on the same

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: page yet. So I'm fine again, do I think he

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: is a better coach than number twenty overall? Absolutely I do.

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: But we have to prove it. We've got to go

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01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: out there and we've got to do it. And he

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: is going to be linked rightly or wrongly, and I

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: think in his case, it's probably a good association. He's

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: going to be linked with Deshaun Watson's success. I firmly

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01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: believe DeShawn Watson will be successful, and I believe that

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01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 3: next year Kevin Stefanski will be in the top sixteen

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 5: Bishop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think in many ways it's this area.

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01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, so you mentioned like Mike McCarthy is a

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: spot ahead of him.

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Speaker 5: He's got to be ahead of McCarthy. Well, McCarthy won

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl though, like that, But are you talking

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Speaker 5: right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't Yeah, I don't know. I mean, McCarthy's

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five and ninety seven as a

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 3: So more experienced, better tracker than he and also a

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01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: lot of his success came with pretty darn good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: It did, it did, so's that's what makes this coaching

1637
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: is so difficult. Like, I'm sure Belichick's really high on

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Speaker 2: this list. I'm sure we'll get to him at some point.

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01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,520
Speaker 2: But what's he without Brady?

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: Yep?

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: You know that's the tricky thing. So McCarthy. This is

1642
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: a crazy thing about McCarthy. So he goes six and

1643
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: ten year one in Dallas and he went twelve and five,

1644
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: twelve and five. Now you could argue that's underachieving because

1645
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 2: they should have gone further in the postseason with those rosters.

1646
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: The roster he had. I want to which was your

1647
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: didn't get hurt? Was that one or twenty one? I

1648
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 2: forget the year, Dack.

1649
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,799
Speaker 3: They were super productive in twenty one.

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like they probably should have been a career year.

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01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know I understand why it is where

1653
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 2: it is. Like, if you want to put him ahead

1654
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: of Kevin O'Connell, I guess that. I mean, that would

1655
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: be fine for me. But McDaniel's just one year in

1656
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: in Miami. Our guy's a little bit more proven. I think,

1657
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: I think coach does not. I think if you're not here,

1658
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: you don't understand what he dealt with two years ago,

1659
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: with the Baker stuff and what he had to do

1660
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: last year. Like you just see the records and you

1661
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: don't see what he was dealing with.

1662
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 3: He's never had a normal season.

1663
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: Never.

1664
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: He had COVID, COVID chaos.

1665
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: Baker Odell and then the right the eleven gate suspension. No,

1666
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 3: Jacobe Brissett being as our starter did it more than

1667
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 3: admirable Joe. He has never had a normal season. Never,

1668
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 3: So hopefully this will be that normal season and we

1669
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: will thrive.

1670
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, next higher core lower. Number one is Andy Reid.

1671
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 5: Number two is Kyle Shanahan.

1672
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: Yep.

1673
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 5: Number three Billy Belichick, Bo Bishop higher lower or just

1674
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 5: right for arguably the greatest coach of all time.

1675
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: He's not three anymore. He's not three anymore. There's he's still.

1676
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: Keeping though, if you like, If let me just let's

1677
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 3: say this. Let's say you had a franchise where you

1678
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: had all of the stuff that you needed, you had

1679
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: the good quarterback, you have the players, where you were

1680
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 3: one of the top ten rosters in the league, and

1681
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: you had that, he would he would You would be

1682
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: considering him if you had first picking that in a

1683
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: coach draft the coach your team for that year.

1684
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: Of course you would. But the opposite of that is

1685
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: if you put him in the situations that Kyle's been

1686
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: in the last four years, with no quarterbacks and revolving

1687
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: door at everything else, he would never accomplish what he's accomplished.

1688
01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 4: He doesn't.

1689
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,520
Speaker 2: He does not have have that offensive acumen that is required.

1690
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: And without Brady it's middling. That's yes, he's not a

1691
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: disaster without Brady, but it's it's been. I mean, you

1692
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: go all the way back to the time here he

1693
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: had one winning season here, that's in ninety four. Yeah,

1694
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: that's it. So he gets Brady. His first season in England,

1695
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: he's five and eleven, then he gets Brady, and then

1696
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 2: it's on. Then it's eleven and five, nine and seven, fourteen.

1697
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 3: Brady though at the beginning was not Brady, No.

1698
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: He wasn't. But it was a great roster.

1699
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: Yes, they had a great defense. Well he's that I'm

1700
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: saying it. We've even seen him against us in the

1701
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 3: in the last three years. I mean he's masterclassed us.

1702
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: So when when talent equates, he I think he's very good,

1703
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: and I think when he has superior talent he wins

1704
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: like that. But I don't think he's I don't know

1705
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: if he's an elevator. But he's also drugged down a

1706
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: little bit for me by his inability to draft.

1707
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 4: Yes.

1708
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 3: Fine, I'm trying to ice the coach saying that if

1709
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 3: the rosters were equal, who would you want to coach

1710
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 3: for you in a one season scenario of all the

1711
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: coaches in the league.

1712
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: Today, And it would be hard, very top of the list.

1713
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: It would be hard for me not to have him

1714
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 3: up there. To him, he's a hard evaluation. Yes, he's

1715
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: a very difficult evaluation.

1716
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 5: Next higher Core lower, number four Sean McVay of the Rams,

1717
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 5: Number five, John Harbaugh the Ravens, Number six, the Squealers,

1718
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin, Zigura higher lower or just right.

1719
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: He's losing season.

1720
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'd be higher than Harma. Isn't this

1721
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: really hard to do because of every one of these

1722
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: jobs is different. Yes, they're not all doing the same thing.

1723
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: I think Mike Tomlin, I think is the best leader

1724
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: of men culture coach in the league in terms of

1725
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 3: getting his play to just buy into the way that

1726
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: they do it. And he is.

1727
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 5: Switched the first week in November and there they go.

1728
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: They've never had a losing season, and now you can

1729
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 3: say it's and it's not. You know, Ben missed significant time.

1730
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 3: Ben got old they did it last year even with

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Speaker 3: t J. Watt missing all those games. He's clearly he

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Speaker 3: I think if you combined Mike Tomlin hit everything about

1733
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin with say, have kept with Arc Kevin Stefanski's

1734
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: offensive acumen and kind of like that approach that you,

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: I think you would have the perfect coach. Or if

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01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 3: you can bind Mike Tomlin and Kyle, but Kyle's got

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01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 3: his own gangster style too. I think in terms of

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 3: just his like lead, I think he is the best

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01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: person at absolutely controlling, commanding, leading, and demanding excellence out

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: of a locker room of twenty year old millionaires that

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01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: exists in the NFL. And everybody doesn't you talk to

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01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 3: You talked to Joe Hayden, You talk to any of

1743
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 3: our guys that have gone there, Ogan, Jobi, Zach Banner,

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 3: they will They all love him. And basically he tells

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 3: you this is the expectation and the expectations that you're

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01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 3: going to keep getting better, and your expectation keeps going up.

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01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: And if it's not, you're gonna be replaced. And I'm

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: gonna tell you where you're good, I'm gonna tell you

1749
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 3: what you're deficient at, and you got to go get better.

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01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: And they all love him, love him.

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01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: There isn't a there isn't there's not a coach to

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: only you said it perfectly, just didn't buttress it. There's

1753
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: not a coach in the league that you I've never

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01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: heard anybody say anything negative about Tomlin that played for him.

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01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 5: Nope, love him none correct next higher.

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01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: Core lower.

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01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 5: All right, I'm jumping down here on this list. McDermott's seven,

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: Sean Payton eight, Pete Carroll nine, Doug Peterson ten. Rounds

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01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 5: out your top ten. LeFleur at number eleven, Twelve is

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01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni, thirteen is Rabel number fourteen Zach Taylor of

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals. Bishop high or lower or just right.

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01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: This is a good spot for him. I think one

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: thing about Zach's that I think people down there are

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01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: very appreciative of is he has evolved a lot as

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: a coach. Yeah, what he was or he was a

1766
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: young coach obviously hired very young with really no experience.

1767
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 2: Did he come from mcvay's tree, and it never called plays,

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: had never been the head coach of anything. It never

1769
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: even really been much of a coordinator because McVeigh called him.

1770
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: So he's the head coach and play caller, and early

1771
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: on it was a real struggle. Now they've drafted superbly,

1772
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: which we all know, but they've also evolved as a

1773
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: football team and his style and they play hard for him.

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 2: There's belief in him. There's a gets that thing with

1775
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: him that I don't know was there a couple of

1776
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: years ago. He does that thing after they win games

1777
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: where he goes to the local bars in Cincinnati and

1778
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: buys around like that type of stuff. All that stuff, Yeah,

1779
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: all that stuff goes into coaching. That's all coaching, right,

1780
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: and he does. He's come a long way on that front.

1781
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: And now it to me I wouldn't have two years ago,

1782
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: no chance, But even last year, I don't know. But

1783
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: he's got them to a super Bowl and he got

1784
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: to be an NFC Championship game in back to back season.

1785
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: So that's he deserves to be on this list.

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 5: High YEP, agreed next, higher, core, lower, all right, real quick.

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01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 5: Robert Sala came in at number twenty six. I'm a

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01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 5: little baffled by that one. That feels and I wanted

1789
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 5: to load, and I wanted to get a quick thought,

1790
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 5: especially because Brandon Staley was ahead of him at twenty three,

1791
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 5: the new Colts coach at twenty four, Demiko Ryans at

1792
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 5: twenty five. I just that one boggles my mind. He

1793
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 5: had one of them.

1794
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: Ever, get him a quarterback. He'll be like eight on

1795
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: this list next year.

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01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sala gets a quarterback. He improved by three wins

1797
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 3: in a second year. The guys clearly play for him,

1798
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: and their defense, which is what he was brought there

1799
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 3: to take to receive, was dominant.

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Speaker 5: YEP. Number thirty two on the list, according to this

1801
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 5: the worst one. Matt Iberflus of the Chicago Bears.

1802
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I think this seems I mean,

1803
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: you can't get lower. Obviously, this seems like a little

1804
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: bit of.

1805
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 4: A shot at him. Actually thought they showed signs of.

1806
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: Life last year with Fields and put Fields in a

1807
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: position to succeed, like.

1808
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith with the Falcons. Todd Bowles. I think I'd

1809
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 5: rather have Iberflus because he at least showed a little something.

1810
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: I think Arthur Smith showed the ability to design a

1811
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 3: pretty good run game. Now, how far do you get

1812
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 3: doing that in the NFL today is a question. I know,

1813
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: I know coach Stefancy thinks Arthur Smith is a very

1814
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: very smart guy. And we'll see now they got that

1815
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: offensive weapon b Jehan Robinson. But it's tough down here.

1816
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: So much of it's just linked to performance, right, and

1817
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: then so much of your performances linked to who your

1818
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 3: quarterback is. So like for these guys down at the

1819
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: bottom of the list, all takes as their quarterback to

1820
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: be good and they move up now Brandon Staley's down

1821
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: there because I think, I mean, they still want to

1822
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: on a layoffs. Last year and they had so many injuries,

1823
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 3: Like I know, maybe people could get aggressive this whole

1824
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I don't, but last year they think about

1825
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen played Harvey half the season.

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01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: They had Herbert the whole time.

1827
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: Like Jacy Jackson this time, Mike Williams of this time,

1828
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: I mean.

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had Herbert, and like yes, usually the

1830
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: playoffs usually have a guy like that you go and

1831
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,480
Speaker 2: his some of his stuff, some of his game managines

1832
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: pretty baffling, Yes, absolutely baffling. So much more to come.

1833
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Favorite All Star Game moment is a kid? All

1839
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Star Game is tonight. I don't know if I'm be

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01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: inclined to watch any of it. Favorite as a kid.

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Speaker 2: It was a big deal as a kid because.

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Speaker 3: Ye didn't play, didn't like bo Jackson lead off of

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Speaker 3: That's again with a home run off of Big Daddy

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: Rick Russell.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that Ronald Reagan, then President of the

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Speaker 2: United States, was in the booth.

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Speaker 3: Love it. That would probably be the one. McGuire's home

1848
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 3: run derby at Fenway was my favorite, obviously, but that

1849
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: was probably from my game standpoint, that probably was the one.

1850
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: I remember. I was at the game in nineteen eighty seven.

1851
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: It was in Oakland. McGuire fled out deep to right

1852
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 3: field off a Lee Smith closer.

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01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: See that was so cool because you never got you

1854
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: didn't get to see no those guys play. Yeah yeah,

1855
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: like Lee Smith against Mark Maguire. That never happened and

1856
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: now that was like the one time you had to

1857
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: see it.

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was it was pretty cool.

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