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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Thanks for joining us again

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Speaker 1: another week. And I couldn't between this without my great

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Speaker 1: co host Katherine Lowe. She did an incredible job last

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Speaker 1: week and so I thought I'm gonna bring her on

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Speaker 1: again for another week. And Katherine, before we get started,

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Speaker 1: I have to just say, you're a professional at podcasting,

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Speaker 1: like I not known, like you haven't really like co

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Speaker 1: You're sweet. I guess I am professional now that this

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Speaker 1: is my second time, so technically i'm professional, but I

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Speaker 1: have a lot to learn. So you're a great lead

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Speaker 1: for me. No, But what I love about you is

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Speaker 1: you just are so personal at personal and you're just

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Speaker 1: good about asking questions. And I'm so happy that we

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Speaker 1: were able to have Leslie on last week because obviously

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Speaker 1: you two are girlfriends, but it just felt comfortable, and

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Speaker 1: I know I wanted to bring you on another week

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Speaker 1: because I just had a feeling you would be the

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Speaker 1: exact same way for any guests that we bring on.

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Speaker 1: We're going to actually get into very soon. We have

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Speaker 1: an incredible woman joining us today, a very special guest

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Speaker 1: with asteroid Luck. But before we do that, Catherine, how

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Speaker 1: have you been in this past week? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: Have you received any feedback from Sean or friends, family

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Speaker 1: from you co hosting with me last week? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's been I was really really excited to do that.

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Speaker 1: I thought that having Leslie as somebody that I felt

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Speaker 1: comfortable with, we had I mean, we had so much

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about with Leslie and like I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: like you said last time, we could even do more

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Speaker 1: because she's such a dynamic person and I just I

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Speaker 1: loved it. There was good feedback. I know that Sean

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Speaker 1: was really happy, and we just I'm just excited to

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Speaker 1: hear more about what Leslie's doing, not just personally, but

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Speaker 1: through her whole social and her trips. And she's now

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii so that'll be fun. But yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: excited to be part of this. And I love talking

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Speaker 1: to you. I love talking to other people, so this

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Speaker 1: is just a perfect area for me. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: for more. I well, I'm excited for more with you

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Speaker 1: because I have to tell you this and it's something

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to tell you last week, and it just,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just talked about so much that it

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Speaker 1: slicked my mind. But so the first season of The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor or Bacheloright that my mom ever watched was actually

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Speaker 1: Sean Susan, and she fell in love with you right away.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this because you're here, Like

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Speaker 1: she to this day, even before you co hosted with

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Speaker 1: me last week, she would always still bring you up

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Speaker 1: and she's like, how Sean and Catherine, she was still

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to listen in all she has to say,

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Speaker 1: So I think it's something really special, not just for me,

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Speaker 1: but like I mean, and Rachel and I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: like almost every episode, is that the show just brings

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Speaker 1: people together in such a weird way, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's a really unique way that now was kind

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Speaker 1: of bringing my mom back into the Bachelor nation with

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Speaker 1: you because she she loves you so much. What's your

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Speaker 1: mom's name? Her name is Jill, Jill, Ji, Jill, I

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Speaker 1: love you, jillot out to Jill. Shut Jill. Well, now

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Speaker 1: she really has to listen. But one thing that I've

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Speaker 1: past week is that I mean, there's so many podcasts

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Speaker 1: think it's something really special for us that we still

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Speaker 1: us and listen to us weekly, no matter who the

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Speaker 1: that's something really a special show shout out to not

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Speaker 1: only Jill, but to all of our listeners out there

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Speaker 1: who tune into us each week. You know, we couldn't

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Speaker 1: Luck Well, welcome, Astrad. I'm so glad you could join

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Speaker 1: been a really long road to not tell everyone. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the both of you. As you're talking right now, I

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Speaker 1: I think I am. I think I am a little bit,

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Speaker 1: And so I know that you had mentioned you guys

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Speaker 1: you might have some mood swings. It was not mood

430
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: swings on rage. They just like screaming in the corn

431
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: and it was like, I'm like, why am I screaming?

432
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't nothing happened, but like I couldn't control it.

433
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: That it was. That was okay for me. It was

434
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: probably just terrible for Kevin because he was kind of

435
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: walking the eggshells a little bit. But um, the floating

436
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: for me was really really bad afterwards the retrieval, I

437
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: don't know for you. Yes, I think part of my

438
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: problem too was working out a lot being slim. I

439
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: think that was part of why maybe I didn't have

440
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: as many eggs so when I had to do the retrieval,

441
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: they put me on this like crazy high fat diet

442
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: or like I was just eating like cheese and chips

443
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: and like all the things I loved. But I was

444
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: like my kind of diet the dinner and it's like

445
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: I just wanted to smoothie like and I couldn't do

446
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Like I was only allowed

447
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: to drink gatorade because same what to build up, So

448
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: you can't drink water because you want the salt to

449
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 1: build up. Yeah, just drinking gatorade for you're just like

450
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: you see yourself like blowing up. It's just so painful

451
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: because you can't even suck it. You're you're literally like

452
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: balloon and you're looking at yourself and you're like, oh,

453
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: young one is a baby and I literally look like

454
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: I have a baby, but there's no baby inside of me,

455
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just really uncomfortably bloated. Yeah, so I think

456
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: that was for me. Probably the worst part is the

457
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: post retrieval. They probably gave you during retrieval the same

458
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: because they don't do it for everyone I know, but

459
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: they gave it to me to um the same thing

460
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: where they're like you can only drink gatorades for a

461
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: couple of days, and it was I feel your pain.

462
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: It was miserable. It was you know, like it doesn't

463
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: sound that bad. I'm sure to our listeners are like,

464
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: oh whatever, it's gatoring cool. No, it gives you like

465
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: cotton mouth. You just feel like you're only getting sugar

466
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: and salted and just I feel your pain and like

467
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the fact, like the bloating. You're like when is this

468
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: going to go down? It's just the most uncomfortable thing.

469
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: So I feel your pain and like you are a

470
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: strong ass woman for going through that. Never drink I'm

471
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: never drinking gator right again? How is this like give

472
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: kids after a soccer game? This is I wonder like

473
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the science and the buy all and like all the

474
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: things that they had to figure out that women should

475
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: not have water during this process, Like that is fascinating stuff.

476
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Like I am learning so much right now. This is

477
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: really cool. So obviously there's so many ups and downs

478
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: that come with this this process. What were some ways

479
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: that helped you cope throughout at all? Um? I read

480
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: a lot, especially at the clinic because I was there

481
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: for so much, Like I went through some really great books,

482
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and I feel like that was kind of keep me

483
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: saying and making the time pass um. I think for us,

484
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: like the part that sucked was that it was during

485
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: COVID too, right, so I couldn't have my family come visit.

486
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: You can't do anything. So for the last four and

487
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: a half months, we've been in like full lockdown again

488
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: here in Toronto, and all I do is go to

489
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: the grocery store and the doctor. So it's kind of

490
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: hard to pass the time. But we went on a

491
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: lot of walks, so I feel like Ace was my

492
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: little emotional supporting animal. We watched a lot of true

493
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: crime stuff, A Woman after my Own Heart, you know,

494
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: like it was just true crime walks. Until I did

495
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: the transfer, I was drinking a good amount of lot

496
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: I probably should have been, because there was really nothing

497
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: else to do, and I'm hoping to get pregnant and

498
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: then I'll have to be sober for nine months. So

499
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: but we just try to distruct yourselves the best the

500
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: best that we could. God, you sound like a woman

501
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: after my own heart. This is why I know I

502
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: love you. True crime, wine, dogs, all of the things.

503
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: So like once once you finally have this baby and

504
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: the world is open up again. I'm coming to Canada.

505
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with you. Kevin could be on baby

506
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: duty for a hot second. So when you were going

507
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: through this, obviously it was during COVID, so you couldn't

508
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: see family and friends. Did were they aware that you

509
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: were undergoing this or did you guys kind of just

510
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: keep it between the two of you. Oh, we kind

511
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: of kept it to ourselves because we didn't want the

512
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: added pressure of people then asking us about it, you know,

513
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: because you're just so emotional while you're going through it

514
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: that likes and everything. I like, I couldn't imagine somebody's

515
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: saying the wrong factory on the wrong day. I didn't

516
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: really take it out people. And then my mom has

517
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: been ready for a grandchild for so long that like

518
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: we didn't tell our moms until we were starting IBS stuff.

519
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: So that was like a year and a half probably

520
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: into everything. And it was after I had the ex

521
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: topic pregnancy that I was like, Okay, I feel like

522
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: I need to tell my mom this. I feel like

523
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: this is like a major medical thing that happened and

524
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: she should know. And then she was like ready to

525
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: go doing reiki on me and all it wasn't the medicine.

526
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: It was the right, the internal healing. But yeah, I

527
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: told my very best friend, and she was kind of

528
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: like my therapist. Because the hard part too, is that

529
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: when I was having bad days, I didn't want to

530
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: tell Kevin about it because I didn't want to have

531
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: his good day turn into a bad day because I

532
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: was having a bad day. So and he couldn't come

533
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: to the clinics, so I had about twenty five minute

534
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: drive there and back every time I went, So I

535
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: always just called my best friend, and sometimes she just

536
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: complained about her husband, which was a great distraction. Other

537
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: times I talk about the IVS stuff. Other days we

538
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: just you know, gossiped or whatever. So that was kind

539
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: of she really was like a huge part in keeping

540
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: me saying throughout all of it good, I'm glad that

541
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: you had somebody, And I love that you said this

542
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: about you know, it's like it's just a testament to

543
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: the solid relationship that you and Kevin have where you

544
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want to ruin his day or make his

545
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: days worse, and I'm sure vice versa. You know, it's

546
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: all about give and taking a balance. So I'm glad

547
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: that you still had some some people that you could

548
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: go to and talk to that could kind of help

549
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: cope you through this entire process. I mean, I feel

550
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: like it's difficult for him in a different way because

551
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: at least it's happening to my body. Right, So I'm

552
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: at every appointment, I'm talking to the doctor, and I

553
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: can feel everything that's happening. Even when we were just

554
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: trying naturally, It's like I knew my body and it's like, Okay,

555
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I think my period is coming on to where he

556
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: just was right like he's just waiting, just a guy

557
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: going on and like, you know, he'd be so cute

558
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: about like I'd be like, my beads are kind of sore,

559
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm getting my periody goes they could

560
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: be sore because you're pregnant. He doesn't know that there's

561
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: a difference between the two, like you just know when

562
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: you're getting your period. But I felt back for him

563
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: because he couldn't come and talk with the doctor and

564
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: he couldn't either, and he couldn't feel everything that was happening.

565
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: So he's just like also didn't want to ask me

566
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: at the wrong time of what was going on. Right

567
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: when when you guys found out? Was it together? Was

568
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: it like a call? What happened when you found out

569
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: you were pregnant? So I found out at like four

570
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, like I couldn't sleep, and I

571
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: had set out to pregnancy tests the night before because

572
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: like I had read everywhere on like forums and stuff

573
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: like wait at least eight days, even though the doctor said,

574
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: wait till fourteen days, come in do the blood work.

575
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Do not be on a pregnancy test because you have

576
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: a you know, like it can be negative, but there

577
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: could just not be enough H ANDG detected in it yet,

578
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: So I don't take it, and then if it's negative,

579
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be upset. Just wait, And I'm like

580
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I bought like six tests like

581
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: but and so I woke up one morning at like

582
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: four o'clock and I just tossed and turned and and

583
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: then like I looked at the clock. I'm like, Okay,

584
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: screw it, Like I'm gonna go take the test because

585
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: then if it's negative, like he's sleeping, I can just

586
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: like go back to sleep and like pretend I didn't

587
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: take it, and when it turned positive, I like sprinted

588
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: to the bag him off. He was like, oh my god,

589
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: what's going on? Okay? I was like, well pregnant, like

590
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: fucking and shaking. And then it's like five am. He

591
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: went downstairs to the kitchen and made a whiskey power

592
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: and basically because I think finally it was just like

593
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: all at tension just got to go away. He's like, okay,

594
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I need a drink. So we like third bagels and

595
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: coffee and he had a whiskey and we called her

596
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: moms by like six am. That's so sweet. I love

597
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: that visual. That's so cute. He like went to the

598
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: like that's when dads are supposed to do that when

599
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: the baby's born. They like the cigar and a drink

600
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: or something. He went, he went nine months early on

601
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: something to take the edge off. I get it well.

602
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: And and for all of our listeners who haven't yet

603
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: checked out your because I mean, you've wrote a whole

604
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: blog post about this. I think it was with people

605
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: correct for people. Yeah, yeah, so please go check out

606
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Asteroid's instagram because she links it there. But I mean,

607
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: you you wrote it so well, and I can't wait

608
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: to follow on. I hope that there's more blog posts

609
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: to come because I just mean every month, okay, good

610
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: because I personally like, I mean, I love you and

611
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm so invested in this baby now and this journey

612
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: for you, this new journey, if you will. But for

613
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: our listeners or any woman who is out there who

614
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: was struggling with their fertility, what is some advice that

615
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: you would give to them. I think my biggest advice

616
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: would be not to take no for an answer, you know,

617
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: like if you have a doctor and you're not getting

618
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: a good vibe, or like someone's telling you like it's

619
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: too early, don't worry it. Like no, they don't get

620
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: to decide when it's too early with your body and

621
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: with your journey and when you when I have a kid,

622
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean same as when you grows your eggs.

623
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: I have so many women messaging me being like I

624
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: don't have a partner yet, but I know I want

625
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: to have kids, But how do I know if something's wrong?

626
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: There is a doctor out there in everyone's city who

627
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: will take you and who will make sure everything is okay,

628
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: or at least look to see if there's something you

629
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: could be doing so then you can plan on that,

630
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, because having kids later now, like we're all

631
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: focused on our careers and a million other things and

632
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: traveling the world. It's not like when my mom had

633
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: me at twenty one years old, right, And as a woman,

634
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: your body just changes the older you get. It's just biology.

635
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: It just happens that way. So just advocate for yourself

636
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: and don't take no for an answer. And there is

637
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: always a doctor who when you hear bad news, they're

638
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: thinking of the next thing that you can do in

639
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: order to hopefully get good news. I want to ask

640
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: you this because this actually came up on our podcast

641
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: last week with our last guest, Leslie. I mean, and

642
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: she just had her precious little girl in this world,

643
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: but she underwent some genetic testing prior to her and

644
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: her partner getting pregnant, and for different reasons. But it's

645
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: that something that when you began IVF that you and

646
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Kevin did. We did the genetic testing on our embryos.

647
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: So when I did retrieval, I got thirteen eggs. They

648
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: mixed that with the sperm and then you have to

649
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: wait five to six days to see if they grow

650
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: into like the good stage to even be transferable. So

651
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: out of those thirteen fertilized eggs, we ended up getting

652
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: six embryos that would have been okay to transfer, and

653
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: because we had so our doctor I told us, if

654
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: you just had one or two, like, we just transfer

655
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: those and we hope for the best. But because we

656
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: get six, she recommended we get them DNA tested. So

657
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: we did that and that takes like two weeks to

658
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: come back. And then out of those six, actually only

659
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: three of them were good enough embryos that they would

660
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: want to even transfer, so they froze those and then

661
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: when my body kind of went through the cycle and

662
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: a half again to where it was ready, they just

663
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: bought one out and that's what they ended up transferring,

664
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: and then we just left two more in the freezer.

665
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: So you just transferred one embryo. Yeah, we just transferred, okay, okay,

666
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: but if you did three, you could have triplets potentially

667
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: or is that not how that works? Yeah, but that

668
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: just sounds really sad. That was very tiring right now. Gosh,

669
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: I like, and we said this on the podcast last week.

670
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Science is incredible, and the fact that they can test

671
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: these six embryos to know what ones will take the

672
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: best and you know, probably have longevity, It just it

673
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: baffles my mind, Like these little miracle babies. I think

674
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: it's incredible. The science is crazy, Like even we're doing

675
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: the i UI stuff and they were like testing Kevin's

676
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 1: sperm and then they were like telling me how many

677
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: they were putting in. I was like, what do you

678
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: mean there's fifty million? Right? Yeah, crazy, that's how many

679
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: sperm men have, like, and he was like very proud.

680
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: He was like, probably like one go around. Wait, I

681
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: want to ask you this. So out of the three

682
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: that they were like, okay, these ones are good to go.

683
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: How did you pick? Were you like, okay, any mini

684
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: mightey Mo type thing or Manada? So in the States

685
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: you can pick if you like. They'll tell you you

686
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: have two boys, one girl, which one do you want

687
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: to transfer? It's illegal in Canada, so they legally cannot

688
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: even tell you what gender they transferred until I think

689
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: week eleven. Okay, so the lab just picked out the

690
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: one that was genetically the best. So I'm sure I'm

691
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: going to get like an athlete or like some scientists,

692
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: or like something really grand. All the money that yea

693
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: penetically the best. We're expecting big things that have you

694
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: baby went? Big things? Have you guys started on a nurse? Sure?

695
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Or anything fun getting ready for him or home for

696
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: our nursery is the gym right now. So we're going

697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: to try to keep at the gym for as long

698
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: as possible just because everything here's I mean, it's getting

699
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: warm around. But like we like her peloton and we

700
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: like to have that room so his hair. And his

701
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: dad is like such a handyman. He like fixed a

702
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff in this house for us. So we're

703
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna wait till they come in August and just have

704
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: them like do it all, like wallpaper, build a closet,

705
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: like do it all. Okay, Well that's a cute family project.

706
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: I love the well, you never know if this baby's

707
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: going to be an athlete or like a World fitness

708
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: OLYMPI like trainer olympian. Just the gym you know, will

709
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: be its place. Have you you know, I know that

710
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: you just announced this a few days ago, so I'm

711
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: sure it's like so much to take in. But has

712
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: anyone I'm sure you've got some wild dms, like what's

713
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: the most questionable advice that somebody has sent to you

714
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: thus far? You know what we told people, we don't

715
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: want to find out the gender, and I don't know

716
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: why everybody feels the need to tell me what I'm having.

717
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Like they're like I posted an ultrasound and everyone's like,

718
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: it's a boy, it's a girl, Like there's something to see,

719
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Like I know you guys all have theories based on pendulums,

720
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: you swing over your belly and crazy stuff. But it's

721
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: like I told you, I don't want to know. I

722
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: don't understand why you're telling me pore or a girl

723
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: because opposite of what we want. I'm sure there's also

724
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: people who are like psychics out there and they're like, oh,

725
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: it's a girl, and you're like, again, I don't want

726
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: to know, but thank you. Oh you're guessing on a

727
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: fifty fifty chance, you know. Like, well, Catherine, I'm glad

728
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: that we have you one because I obviously can't give

729
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: any parenting advice unless it's with a dog. But is

730
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: there any any advice that you would give to Kevin

731
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: and Nashville at this point as they're prepping the four parenthood? Well,

732
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: I would just say be present, be present in every

733
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: stage because, like you know, you are blessed to be

734
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: able to have a baby and do it the way

735
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: that you know. You and Kevin get to deliver a

736
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: baby naturally, and it's I mean, whatever way that people

737
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: have their family plan, it's beautiful. And as long as

738
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: you're present in each situation and each stage of life,

739
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: you're going to get so much out of it, even

740
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: in the hard stuff, even in waking up really late.

741
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Be present in that because it goes by really fast,

742
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: and some people really just want They yearn to be

743
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: woken up at two am with a baby, they yearn

744
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: to change a dirty diaper. So I feel like just

745
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: being present and being appreciative of everything that happens gives

746
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: you a really cool perspective throughout the whole journey. That's amazing.

747
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: That's great advice. Thank you. One thing that I've heard again,

748
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: not to me, but heard to other expecting parents, is

749
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: that people always say sleep when the baby sleeps. Catherine,

750
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: in your experience, does that happen? I mean, you are

751
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: liking your first trimester. You will be narcoleptic for sure,

752
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and when the baby needs you, it will wake you up.

753
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, there were so many things to

754
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: do when the baby was sleeping that you're like, oh,

755
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I can finally get up and go pee and the

756
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: baby's not on me. Or whatever. But also those those

757
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: cuddles with the baby's sleeping on you, that's a good

758
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: time to be awake too, because you just want to

759
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: enjoy it and savor it. And I mean the first

760
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: part of after having the baby, it's going to be

761
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: such a crazy, like delirious alternate reality, but it's so

762
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: loving and if you can try to sleep when the

763
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: baby sleeps, but you will be you will be awoken constantly.

764
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: One of our most people tell me is like, sleep now,

765
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: because it's going to be over and your best friend

766
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: will be like, if you can get one more vacation

767
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: in go on vacation because you will never not be

768
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: like for someone else or word about. Yeah, pregnancy is

769
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: very fun. I will say pregnancy is a really cool

770
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: time because it's you and the baby and it's like

771
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: this special time. You know you're feeding it right, you

772
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: know you're it's sleeping the way that it should be,

773
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: like you don't have to worry about it. But I

774
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: mean everything about just being a mother, whatever stage that

775
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: is afterwards, during um, if you're going to adopt, like

776
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: everything is such a cool experience and like you said,

777
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: everyone's story is so unique that every every story is

778
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: beautiful in its own way. So I'm just really excited

779
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: for you. Guys. It's gonna be so cool. You're gonna

780
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: be so happy and just every everything is going to

781
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: be I'm just so excited for you. I am too,

782
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I am too well Astraight, we have to play a

783
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: game with you, because we love to play a game

784
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: with all of our guests. And I'm you know, I'm

785
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: sure like, like you don't have enough going on right

786
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: now with growing this tiny human. We'll take it easy

787
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: for the rest of this podcast. So we are going

788
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: to get into this game. So, Catherine, if you want

789
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: to explain it to us, Yeah, okay. So one of

790
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: the funnest things about being a parent is seeing how

791
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: your partner handles this new role, their new you know,

792
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: new stage of life. And so we're gonna ask you

793
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: some questions and you have to tell us which parent

794
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: you think the question is the answer too. So who

795
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: do you think will be stricter me? Which parent will

796
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: spoil the baby more? Kevin? Okay? Which or who will

797
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: change the most diapers? Probably me? Want to do it

798
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: is because I'm in control for you, because I like

799
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. To start, you have to like start

800
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: betting and like building it up, like you know, if

801
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: if you lose this bet, Kevin has to change the

802
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: next seven diapers or something. So like if there's throw

803
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: up and when the kids throw up later in life,

804
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: you can handle them throw up. I can do too.

805
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Only one end, only one end? Who do too? Well?

806
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: This is kind have a hard question is obviously you know,

807
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: unless you're not breastfeeding, Yeah, whatever you choose. Yeah, who

808
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: is more likely to do two am feedings? I would

809
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: say me. I'm hoping I'll be able to breastfeed. I mean,

810
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out when the time comes. But what

811
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: I've heard from my friends is that sometimes breastfeeding is

812
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: just like easier. It's just right there. It's just easier

813
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: getting anything else or warming up a bottle or whatever.

814
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: To him that I've heard, Okay, um, he did mention

815
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: if he could breastfeed himself, he would. Well, that's a trooper,

816
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a true partner right there. It

817
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: is fun, I will say, But anyways, who will saying

818
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: the baby lullabies? I will who was a better voice

819
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: between you and Kevin? I don't think I've ever heard

820
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: him sing like really being not even in the shower. Okay,

821
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: that's something. Is a good singing voice? Yeah? Good enough

822
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: for love it either way, that wasn't part of the game.

823
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Who's more nervous about delivery? Definitely me? Yeah?

824
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: Who who will make the baby bottles show him? Who

825
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: will ask the doctor more questions? Me? Because he doesn't

826
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: get to come to the appointments? Yeah, hopefully hopefully soon.

827
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean obviously he'll be there for delivery. Correct. Will

828
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: they let him be part of any of the ultrasounds

829
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: later on? Um? Not right now, but um there's like

830
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: the three d ultrasound places you can go to and

831
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: they usually allow one person to come with, So we're

832
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna so he can be part of it. Totally nice? Yeah? Um?

833
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: Who will cry on the first day of school? Me?

834
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: Who will teach the baby about the birds and the bees?

835
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: About how mommy and daddy met and made him? I

836
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: want to hear Kevin's version though for really maybe depends

837
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: on who kid bonds with more about that kind of stuff. See,

838
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, the baby could get too wildly different

839
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: stories here. I'd be interested to see who will show

840
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the baby more dance moves. Me doesn't dance and he

841
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: doesn't sing. Really, that is so surprising, I know. Yeah.

842
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Who will do the most baby talk? I think neither.

843
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: Maybe me. I guess I did with a's a little

844
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: bit here and there. They respond to it. Baby talk

845
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: is there for a reason. I will say. It's not

846
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: just annoying for other adults. It's like good for their

847
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: brain or something. So just know that. Who will be

848
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: more patient? Me? Definitely me. Who will take more photos?

849
00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: You probably can't him? Really? Yeah, features of dogs. I

850
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: can only imagine he's gonna take so many beautiful pictures?

851
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Are you sleeping with the baby on you all excited?

852
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: Terrible pictures of me? And beautiful pictures I doubt that,

853
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: like a shoe. Yeah. Picture someone on Instagram and I'm like,

854
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: why don't you take keep pictures like this of me?

855
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: And they took a picture of me and he's like

856
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: this is what time. I was like, okay, that's fair.

857
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Can we expect a baby Canada? Oh my gosh, I

858
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: can't talk. A baby cameo in Paradise one day, Oh babe,

859
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: I will Kevin's the bartender for the Canadian bathroom. He's right,

860
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: we'll probably bring the baby to We just get different accommodations, right,

861
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm picturing? Uh, what's the movie Hangover

862
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: where he has baby Carlos, you know, strapped on him

863
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: in the front. I can just picture Kevin like pupping

864
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: up all the cocktails and nice little margharita with baby

865
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: went hanging there, just chilling. This has been discussed for

866
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: his bachelor part. Absolutely not with your friends side question,

867
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: how do you feel do you think you'll have a

868
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: separate baby Instagram? No, I don't. I mean for the

869
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: people that do it, great, I don't see us like

870
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: talking from the baby's perspective, Like we have the page

871
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: with the dog, and I'm sure we'll just it's it'll

872
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: be like a family page, just because I feel like

873
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys know like Instagram for me isn't

874
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: as fun anymore. I feel like it's more fun now

875
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: that I get to kind of talk about this kind

876
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: of stuff. But you're always thinking about a campaign or

877
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: this or that or posting fill a picture for the

878
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: next campaign. So like we have our little family page

879
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: that we started for the dog will post on there

880
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: and that's just like a fun one where we don't

881
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: have to think about what we're doing. I get it. Well.

882
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes Instagram is just its hard, Like it's

883
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: hard to keep up your own page, let alone a

884
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: dog or another human or a business, whatever it might be.

885
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: It's a lot. So I totally get exactly dressed and

886
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: done up. How do you people do that? I know?

887
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, especially as a new parent, I can't even imagine.

888
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: But but Asteroid, we are so excited to follow along

889
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: on you and Kevin's journey too. I can't wait to

890
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: read your future blog posts and to just see all

891
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: of the changes that you get to go through and

892
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: share with us whatever that might be. And to finally

893
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: welcome this little baby into the world one day is

894
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: going to be absolutely incredible. So we are so thrilled.

895
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: We are here to support you in whatever you need.

896
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: You know, you always have friends in a place in us,

897
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: so don't hesitate to reach out. And so for all

898
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: of our listeners, if they don't already know where to

899
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: find you or follow you, please let them know where

900
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: they can go. My Instagram is just asked to walk,

901
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: and then Kevin's is just Kevin went. I think is

902
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: there seeing it in there? Oh? I think there is?

903
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: Yet the gang is the is the family page the

904
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: family Affair Well, Astroon, thank you so much for joining

905
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: us today. I mean, you are a busy woman. You

906
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: now have so many new things added to your plate,

907
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: so we appreciate you just taking the time in an

908
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: hour to chat with us and Philliston on all of

909
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: this IVF journey. And I can imagine how much this

910
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: has helped some of our listeners. So thank you, um

911
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: and You've been an absolute joy to have. Thanks guys,

912
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. She's so calming, m she like

913
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: seems so confident in herself. I like that. I know,

914
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: I she's I've only met her once, but she is

915
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: someone that I've heard nothing but incredible things about in

916
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: Vachel Nation. I love when women can just talk about

917
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: their bodies and not feel ashamed or like they can't

918
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: say so certain things in public or on the podcast.

919
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: Like no, like, all of our bodies are made up

920
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: of the same things. We all go through similar things,

921
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit different sometimes, but we all

922
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: have periods. We all, I'm sure struggle with issues in

923
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: fertility or whatever it might be. And so the fact

924
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: that she is just so confident about it and can

925
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: share it with all of our listeners is incredible, and

926
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we had her on it this time

927
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: because obviously Paradise is going to be filming and airing

928
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: very soon, and it's just another success story from the

929
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: show from Paradise, And like, yeah, her and Kevin didn't

930
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: leave in the traditional manner. They didn't get engaged on

931
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: the show, but they made it work post show and

932
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: have such a solid, strong, great relationship that people you know,

933
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: like I can look up to. And so I can't

934
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: wait to see boy or girl. I can't wait to

935
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: see hopefully this healthy little baby brought into the world,

936
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: and to just hear more about her story with IBF,

937
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: because I think it's so important to be yeah and again,

938
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: to be able to speak about the like freezing your

939
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: eggs or IVF. It also gives people that didn't have

940
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: certain experiences a better understanding of how to listen and

941
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: how to talk and what verbiage to use that's not

942
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: triggering or hurtful. So because you can't, like before, I'm

943
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: sure everybody that wasn't talk nobody was talking about their troubles.

944
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: So people just were like, oh, I can talk about

945
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: things freely, not knowing it would hurt someone's feelings. So

946
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: like Mother's Day tread lightly, you have to figure out like, okay,

947
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: well some people want to be mothers. So I think

948
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: there's just this now there's a better narrative for women

949
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: to really have empathy for other people that had different experiences.

950
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: If you can't have a child, some people want to adopt,

951
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: some people don't. So I just love hearing everybody's take

952
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: on motherhood, parents if they don't want children, even, Like

953
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: it's so cool to just be able to know, hey,

954
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: we're all different. We can agree to disagree on everything,

955
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: and I want to hear your story and that's always

956
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: I want to share it. Yeah, exactly, And that's what

957
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: is so great. I mean, one of my favorite things

958
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: about this podcast is to have people on, Like, yes,

959
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: it's a bachelor podcast, but we don't always just have

960
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: to recap the show. We can have people on to

961
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: swap stories and to share either similar or different scenarios

962
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: of things that we're going through in life. And I

963
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: think it's it's really important and like that's what keeps

964
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: life going right. Yeah, I mean I went to school.

965
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm from Seattle obviously, and I went to school at

966
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: like a very conservative, like rural place, and I just

967
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: heard things and learned that, you know, even though I

968
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: didn't agree with certain things, they're still humans and you

969
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: still talk to them the same way. So it's just

970
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: refreshing to be able to have conversations, take it for

971
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: what they are, and try to learn from each other. Yeah. Exactly, well,

972
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: said Catherine. That is why I have such a great

973
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: co host sees weeks with me. And so thank you

974
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: for joining again this week, and a huge thank you

975
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: to Ask for joining us and being so open with us,

976
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: and for all of our listeners, thank you. As always,

977
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: you guys, please keep writing to us and letting us

978
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: know your thoughts. You can find us at badgelor Happy

979
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram and at Badge Happy Hour on Facebook

980
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: and Twitter. And as always, if you never want to

981
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: miss an episode, please subscribe to our podcast right now.

982
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: You can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the One,

983
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: Dire app, or wherever you're listening to our voices right now.

984
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Speaker 1: Take care, talk next week. Bye,