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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that Elizabeth Warren surged. Okay,

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Speaker 1: She's an aggressive fundraiser, which a lot of candidates haven't

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Speaker 1: been um. But also she wasn't taking on any incoming.

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Speaker 1: So it's only been the past couple of weeks where

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Speaker 1: the other issues that she's now being confronted with that

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Speaker 1: see Dave cat Nice David kats Niss's piece today for

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Speaker 1: McClatchy News on people Juge He's been on the program

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Speaker 1: before he wrote this piece that he got a copy

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Speaker 1: of Buddha Judge's focus group in South Carolina. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: certainly competes in terms of his intellect. I think Biden

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Speaker 1: think even even Bernie Sanders has more experience in terms

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Speaker 1: a long way. Baby, As we say I certainly think

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Speaker 1: when certain parts of the country and maybe even within

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Speaker 1: that may be an issue. But I think generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think it's the I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's the barrier it once was. David Catney's his

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Speaker 1: story is is great journalism. So I'm not criticizing the story.

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Speaker 1: I'm criticizing the focus group, Doug, because I think with

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Speaker 1: and it's too cheap. It feels cheap, like, oh, South

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Speaker 1: that feels cheap to me. And to Joe's point, I

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Speaker 1: think that if he starts showing up, if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: with them. Is it not well? By and large, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but that's not the complete, you know, case with with

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Speaker 1: any candidate. You know, it's not just about their ideas,

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Speaker 1: it's it's what everybody, it's what their voters signed up on,

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Speaker 1: tell you, being from from North Carolina, UM, that that's

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Speaker 1: there in the African American community, especially in the conservative

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Speaker 1: African American voters about any issue that they care about,

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Speaker 1: they might be able to make some inroads there. They

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Speaker 1: just haven't shown any interest. Who may need is a

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Speaker 1: breakthrough moment with the African American community too. He's had

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Speaker 1: some setbacks in his hometown and in terms of relations there,

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Speaker 1: he needs a breakthrough moment. I think to really put

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Speaker 1: some spot well, I think I think people are right,

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Speaker 1: I think there are questions yet to ask all the candidates.

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Speaker 1: Number One, how can a mayor of a small town

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Speaker 1: project that onto onto the national stage examining his record

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. The final point I'll put on this though,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that they're quite frankly selling South

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Speaker 1: Carolina a little short with this focus group. I think

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Speaker 1: that they're they're grossly underestimating where people are right now.

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Speaker 1: What do I know? I'm Kevin Surreali, Chief Washington correspondent

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Let's go, Nats were just a couple of

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Speaker 1: hours away from Game one of the World Series were

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Speaker 1: also just a couple of hours away. This is a pivot, sorry, folks,

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Speaker 1: but Mark Zuckerberg is testifying before the Financial Services Committee tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be grilled on cryptocurrency and Facebook Libra, as

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Speaker 1: well as their digital wallet Calibra. I you know they've

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Speaker 1: been they've been going very very hard in terms of

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Speaker 1: Facebook and whatnot. And French Hill is going to be

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Speaker 1: on Congressman Friend Hill, Republican from Arkansas. He's he's really

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Speaker 1: folks emerged as wanted to go to people on this issue,

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Speaker 1: not because I'm agreeing or disagreeing with this point of view,

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Speaker 1: but because he's one of the few people that understands it.

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Speaker 1: To be candid, I'm not even making to that. So

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Speaker 1: many of these lawmakers and both sides of the aisle,

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Speaker 1: whenever I go to these hearings, they truthfully are they

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Speaker 1: don't understand digital currency. Folks who do understand digital currency.

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Speaker 1: Doug High, Republican strategist, former R and C communications director.

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Speaker 1: Do you have bitcoin, Doug? I do not have bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: I've actually worked on bitcoin issues. I do under I

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Speaker 1: do understand it a little bit. What's a bitcoin? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he asked. You don't show Crowley, former New

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Speaker 1: York congressman and Democratic Caucus show alright, So Zuckerberg's on

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Speaker 1: the talked about having a week. I mean he's been

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Speaker 1: you know, Georgetown, he's been talking. He's been really taking

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Speaker 1: a different tone. Everybody thought he was going to be boring. Nope,

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg two point oh is aggressive and on offense. Doug, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they need to be. They they've

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Speaker 1: to the two thousand sixteen campaign, and as they go

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Speaker 1: about um, Russian interview rants and not just Russian, you know,

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Speaker 1: pick your country that may want to interfere and and

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Speaker 1: um infiltrate, whether it's hacking or or however you define things.

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Speaker 1: It's a real problem. You know. One of my old

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Speaker 1: bosses of Senator Richard Burr and and if you ask

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Speaker 1: him what his concerns are, he'll tell you, you know,

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Speaker 1: send it Intel chair. He'll say number one, cyber, number two, cyber,

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Speaker 1: number three, cyber. And then you've got the notion. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Pager, Bloomberg's Tyler Pager reported yesterday with that big

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Speaker 1: scroup that he was that Zuckerberg was emailing Buddha Judges

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Speaker 1: campaign along with his wife about who to hire, and

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Speaker 1: then the other campaigns, some of them not Elizabeth Moore

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Speaker 1: I guess the follow up question putting on my reporter

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Speaker 1: about who to hire? So? I mean, his influences is

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Speaker 1: ever growing, Joe. Well, I also think, though, if I'm Zuckerberg,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually grateful I'm not talking about the other issues

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Speaker 1: know that most members probably don't have a full hand

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Speaker 1: if I'm Mark, I'm I'm like you know, swiping the alright.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the congressional oversight on this, which you

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Speaker 1: bring up, Congressman, is is fascinating. What a shock that

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Speaker 1: Like the colleagues, I'm going to defend them. These are

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Speaker 1: part of the show, What's What's on your Radar? Doug

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Speaker 1: will start with you what's on your radar? Vulnerable Republican

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Speaker 1: senators and we're going to Corey Gardner, Tom Tillis from

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Speaker 1: we'll forget the primary. They've they've maybe already moved past that.

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Speaker 1: They've got a problem in November as well. It's a

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Speaker 1: very fine line that they've got to negotiate. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: yeah good. What's on your what's on your radar? But

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Speaker 1: did he do this to divert attention from his turkey

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Speaker 1: you know what? You know, what's on my radar? Did

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Speaker 1: you guys see this? I mean now I'm like, uh

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Speaker 1: pause dramatic pause. Remember that New York Times op ed

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Speaker 1: because if this book is going to be this is

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Speaker 1: arguably no one It's like what was that one Primary Colors?

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Speaker 1: No one knew who wrote that. This is like primary

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's much more validating if

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Speaker 1: it's called a warning. That's the title, A warning, and

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Speaker 1: then then a red red thing, a redline, and then

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Speaker 1: it says anonymous, Yeah, Doug, he should say he or

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Speaker 1: she whoever wrote this thing should say who they are. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And unless you're waiting on your pension to stick around,

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Speaker 1: you know, just say who you are. Do the Nats

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Speaker 1: win tonight, Doug? Yes or no? Sure? Look I think

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Speaker 1: a pitching matchup tonight? You should be fantastic. It should be.

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Speaker 1: I don't hurt Kevin's fields at all. Sort of a

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Speaker 1: lot of you know what, a lot of people don't mind, Joe,

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Speaker 1: You're in the wrong way, buddy. All right, Thanks Joe,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Doug. It's great to have you. Let's go Nuts.

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