Speaker 1: Wind Downs with Janet Kramer and Michael Coffin and I'm
Speaker 1: her radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up. It's Jana and Easton. Hey, winding down
Speaker 2: from New Iberia, Louisiana. Did you ever think you'd ever
Speaker 2: come to New Iberia.
Speaker 3: I never thought my career would take me here. It's
Speaker 3: it's an unreal experience.
Speaker 2: So I am in obviously New Iberia, Louisiana. And if
Speaker 2: you guys have been following me, I booked a lifetime
Speaker 2: Christmas movie. It's called Christmas in Louisiana. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun. It's been it's been
Speaker 2: a lot of long hours, but it's been incredible. I've
Speaker 2: truly enjoyed, you know, getting back to work and acting
Speaker 2: and you know, just being on set. And so obviously
Speaker 2: we do not want to miss a wind down Monday.
Speaker 2: So I made sure that we were able to get
Speaker 2: Easton here to be able to record a podcast together.
Speaker 2: And you know, he's like, where are we going? Oh?
Speaker 2: Are we going to like, you know, Park City, Utah?
Speaker 2: Or are we going to like Hawaii? And I'm like, no, baby,
Speaker 2: New Iberia, Louisiana. But it's actually a really cute quaint
Speaker 2: town and all, like all the shops have put up
Speaker 2: Christmas decorations on main Street, so it looks really cute.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, the whole town transformed into this winter wonderland
Speaker 3: and ninety five degree. It's great.
Speaker 4: It's hot.
Speaker 2: It's so hot, yeah, crazy hot. But luckily today we're inside.
Speaker 2: And I just took Easton on his first movie set
Speaker 2: and funny thing happened. So I was holding, well, I'll
Speaker 2: let you explain it, Easton.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Janet took me on to the set, and
Speaker 3: she's such a pro. She's like, here you go stand
Speaker 3: in here. I'm gonna go do my thing. She walks
Speaker 3: out in front of the cameras and I'm watching it
Speaker 3: through the monitors and looks cool because it looks like
Speaker 3: a movie, you know, like like I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: already watching Lifetime Vision Woman and and I see, uh,
Speaker 3: Jana is in this. You know, there's like four different
Speaker 3: cameras on her. She's in the shot and she's on
Speaker 3: her phone and we were just hanging out by backstage.
Speaker 2: I guess that's you know, we were hanging hanging out
Speaker 2: in the holding area.
Speaker 3: We're in the holding are hanging out and like we
Speaker 3: were just on our phones, and so I thought she
Speaker 3: was continuing like like while they're because they're still setting
Speaker 3: up the shot and everything, she's on her phone. And
Speaker 3: then they call rehearsal and she's still on her phone,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I mean, I know Jana is
Speaker 3: like first on the call. She here, She's being pretty
Speaker 3: cavalier with this. So and then they start rolling and
Speaker 3: like it's like they call action, they do the whole
Speaker 3: clapboard thing, and Jana's like still on her phone and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, like like did she know
Speaker 3: he started?
Speaker 2: And Easton's like starts freaking out and he's about to
Speaker 2: be like, Janna, Jenna your phone.
Speaker 3: I was going to text you and say I think
Speaker 3: they're rolling, but.
Speaker 2: And so he got in the car and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: so On were you were you supposed to have your
Speaker 2: phone in that scene, because you know, you were on
Speaker 2: your phone. I was like, that was the whole part
Speaker 2: of the scene.
Speaker 3: I'm understanding now, Yeah, you were like supposed to be
Speaker 3: like texting or somebody.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be texting, and then my mom
Speaker 2: was supposed to come up, and I was supposed to,
Speaker 2: you know, be like I'm preoccupied, mom, But it was
Speaker 2: just so funny. It's like, you know, you were saying
Speaker 2: there you didn't know what was going on, thinking they
Speaker 2: were probably man, she's like a little like not professional,
Speaker 2: like on her phone.
Speaker 3: Was that your actual phone?
Speaker 2: No, they give you. They don't let you have your
Speaker 2: own phone. Okay, so it's a stunt because it probably
Speaker 2: would distract you too much. But yeah, no, it's a
Speaker 2: it's like a it's a set phone. Props. Well, they
Speaker 2: say props phone.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: He the biz name the movie the Biz. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: they say the Biz. The breakup Sarah, Sarah, my girl,
Speaker 2: Sara would have got that.
Speaker 3: I saw the breakup too. I'm very disappointed myself. So good.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny though, I kind of want to
Speaker 2: Sarah almost s Gretzky instagrammed a clip from the breakup,
Speaker 2: and it's funny because then that to Instagram. I know
Speaker 2: this scene is very famous.
Speaker 4: I I don't.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, I want I want you to
Speaker 2: want to do the dishes. Gary, He's like, why would
Speaker 2: I want to do the dishes? It's not about you
Speaker 2: wanting to do the dishes, Gary, it's about you wanting
Speaker 2: to help me, and so I just have always loved
Speaker 2: that scene. But it's so true. It's so true, and
Speaker 2: it's fascinating because it's I mean, it's not like we
Speaker 2: want to be doing the dishes.
Speaker 3: No, no, you don't, not at all.
Speaker 2: Do you help your wife?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: We talked about this the other day though, that there's
Speaker 3: a did. I did something for her right before I
Speaker 3: left to come to New Iberia, and she she was
Speaker 3: thanking me profuse, like I had bought her a gift.
Speaker 3: And I saw it as like, oh, this should have
Speaker 3: just been like, oh great, thanks, but she was acting
Speaker 3: like it was the greatest thing ever I got. I
Speaker 3: got her wedding dress cleaned. It's been we haven't gotten
Speaker 3: clean since we got married two years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so thoughtful.
Speaker 3: See, I thought it's been it's been an errand I've
Speaker 3: been putting off for months in the back of my head,
Speaker 3: so like I felt like, oh man, I've been really
Speaker 3: dropping the ball, like I should have done this a
Speaker 3: long time ago. But there's stuff like that will happen,
Speaker 3: and I think that, like I don't know, I just
Speaker 3: like sometimes I think like, oh, I should be helping
Speaker 3: out more so this doesn't seem like a miraculous thing
Speaker 3: that like I did something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting what we see and then what
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just always find it so fascinating.
Speaker 2: I feel like Mike and I do a pretty good
Speaker 2: job with things around the house. I know we've talked
Speaker 2: about it before, but by the way, Mike is home
Speaker 2: right now with Jolie. I decided to take Jase. The
Speaker 2: entire time, I wanted to take Jolie, but you know,
Speaker 2: she's just got like her routine and everything, and it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to get her out of that.
Speaker 2: But she is coming this next week, so I'm really
Speaker 2: really excited to have her. And then Mike will be
Speaker 2: on next week's episode, so that'll be nice to have
Speaker 2: him because I haven't seen him in a few weeks
Speaker 2: being out here. But yeah, and then I'm really excited
Speaker 2: because I have just really gotten close with my grandma
Speaker 2: on this movie. We've created such a like an amazing
Speaker 2: like is Kinship Award, Yeah it is. I just feel
Speaker 2: like we connect on such a different level. And So
Speaker 2: her name is Dee Wallace and she is the mom
Speaker 2: from E T. I mean, if you look her up.
Speaker 3: I mean her, she's been in so much stuff. I
Speaker 3: looked at me earlier.
Speaker 2: It's like one hundred and eighty something films and TV
Speaker 2: shows she's been in. She's she's just incredible, and she's
Speaker 2: got a ton of stories, especially working with Steven Spielberg
Speaker 2: and just life and love and loss. H and so
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to have her come in the trailer
Speaker 2: whenever we're because we're actually working right now. This is
Speaker 2: in between takes. We are doing this. That's because how
Speaker 2: much I love y'all. So yeah, so I'm excited to
Speaker 2: have her come in the trailer and do a little interview.
Speaker 2: But before I want to take a quick break, I
Speaker 2: think something else too. That is something I'm kind of
Speaker 2: dealing with right now, is well two things. I have
Speaker 2: really bad mom guilts, obviously like other moms do, But
Speaker 2: I also am struggling so bad with anxiety that I
Speaker 2: honestly think I might have to up my medicine. And
Speaker 2: I don't want to, like I feel it's making me
Speaker 2: sad because I don't want to. I don't know, don't
Speaker 2: I don't want to rely on something. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I feel so anxious all the time. Now,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's because and this is
Speaker 2: like I don't mean to go and I don't want
Speaker 2: to go dark, but at the same time, Okay, So
Speaker 2: we got to New Iberia like a week and a
Speaker 2: half ago, two weeks ago, and we went to Target
Speaker 2: and I was totally fine in the car ride and
Speaker 2: I was with Jace and the nanny, and then I
Speaker 2: just finally hired an assistant because with everything I'm doing
Speaker 2: on socials and the Wine Down Tour, which by the way,
Speaker 2: I'll you know what's tell you guys about, but just
Speaker 2: everything else that's kind of going on, I just I
Speaker 2: really feel like I need some extra help because I
Speaker 2: just feel a little overwhelmed. And so we're in the
Speaker 2: car and everything was fine. I was totally good, and
Speaker 2: then we go to Target, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I just have this massive anxiety attack, and I like,
Speaker 2: I just, you know, Lauren and Kylie they're sweet girls,
Speaker 2: but I, you know, I get so embarrassed when I
Speaker 2: have anxiety attacks. So I kind of just what I
Speaker 2: do is I just shut down. And I was just
Speaker 2: like I had a total plan. I wanted to get
Speaker 2: Jolie Barbad Barbie Dolls, I wanted to get her, like
Speaker 2: I had a whole list. I wanted, you know, stuff
Speaker 2: because she's coming. You know, I want to make sure
Speaker 2: Jolie has all her things, and I want to surprise
Speaker 2: her with this big dollhouse. And you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: to get Jason food and and you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: to get some there was it was like one of
Speaker 2: those super targets. Yeah, so you know, I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I want to get strawberries and great so whatever.
Speaker 2: And I go in there and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just gonna Amazon all of it.
Speaker 2: And they're like what, oh, yep, I'm just gonna I
Speaker 2: just I don't know, I just want to Amazon all
Speaker 2: of It's it's fine. And this was We drove about
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes to a Target because it's in Lafayette,
Speaker 2: and they were like, okay, I thought you wanted to
Speaker 2: come here. I was like I do. I just I
Speaker 2: just I now am deciding that it's just easier to
Speaker 2: just go on Amazon and I'm just gonna I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna get Barbie dolls. And they're like, okay, all right, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: let's just get the at least the things for Jason'm like,
Speaker 2: mm okay, And then I started to really dissect it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well, I've always had anxiety, I
Speaker 2: get that, but what else was it? And it was
Speaker 2: because of the shootings? Oh yeah, I was like I
Speaker 2: I the second I got there. I cause it was
Speaker 2: because two days before that, I read something about how
Speaker 2: the mom and dad were protecting their baby that just died.
Speaker 2: I know, and I'm not trying to go like, but
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I grabbed Jay so tight because I'd
Speaker 2: first put him in the in the parking or in
Speaker 2: the in the cart, and then I grabbed him really
Speaker 2: fast when I get in there, and I was just
Speaker 2: like and I started looking around and I was just
Speaker 2: and and I thought it was just my normal anxiety.
Speaker 2: But then I realized where my anxiety was coming from.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, how do you not think of that
Speaker 3: now when you go to when you go to a
Speaker 3: place like that.
Speaker 2: But it's like you shouldn't live in fear. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, now I'm like, oh my god, that
Speaker 2: is totally where it came from. Because I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: in a city I don't know, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know these people around and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's honestly, it's anywhere, even if even if it's
Speaker 2: but I'm like if they do it at a Walmart
Speaker 2: and at a church and at a movie theater, I
Speaker 2: mean the list, I mean, it's just like goes on
Speaker 2: and on. I'm like, I don't feel safe to even
Speaker 2: go to a flipping target.
Speaker 3: You know, in my in my life because I'm a
Speaker 3: I'm a white male, I've had a lot of privilege
Speaker 3: in my life, Like I've never had to worry about anything,
Speaker 3: and I always think like, oh that that stuff never
Speaker 3: happens to me. I'll never bring uh my wife. And
Speaker 3: I went and saw Elvis Costello the other night, and
Speaker 3: where's at the Greek Theater in la And I was
Speaker 3: like looking around and ye clocking guys like that guy's
Speaker 3: acting weird. And then it's like, Okay, if something goes down,
Speaker 3: where am I going to go? And it's like it's
Speaker 3: just crazy that that you have to think that way now,
Speaker 3: and uh, and I totally understand feeling like that type
Speaker 3: of intense anxiety from doing that, and like someone like
Speaker 3: you that already struggles with anxiety, like my god, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's going to happen more.
Speaker 2: I'm just I just felt like almost helpless. I'm like,
Speaker 2: if something happens, I mean, I was holding him where
Speaker 2: it was like I can protect him and if I
Speaker 2: get shot, he'll be like, he'll be okay. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that is what's going through my head. It's so effed up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, but I'm like, well, I don't. I
Speaker 2: know it's also good not to live in fear, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, how how can I how can we not
Speaker 2: exactly because I know, I'm sorry, I don't need to
Speaker 2: like bring it down. I'm just like I'm really struggling
Speaker 2: with that because I'm like, I don't want to leave
Speaker 2: my house now. I protect my children, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 2: or so that I don't die and then they don't
Speaker 2: have a mom.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the answer is, because you can't you can't just stay
Speaker 3: home all day. But and you don't want to have
Speaker 3: it totally affect your life like that, But also how
Speaker 3: can you not think of that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know it's because before it's like, oh, well, I
Speaker 3: you know that happens at a that could happen at
Speaker 3: a bar. With a disgruntled person, but like, no, now
Speaker 3: it's at Walmart, like everywhere. It's happening everywhere.
Speaker 2: I know. I didn't mean to like bring it down.
Speaker 2: I just was like, that's where it's just another layer
Speaker 2: of anxiety now where I'm just like, man, this is
Speaker 2: just I just I don't know what the answer is.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't even want to get to like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to get political because I have a
Speaker 2: gun and I would like to keep my gun, but again,
Speaker 2: I just to protect myself and my children and my family.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think there's certain things we
Speaker 2: can do, but at the same time, I don't want
Speaker 2: to get into it, yeah, because I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I just know that I'm curious what how you
Speaker 2: guys are reacting, and what you guys think and what
Speaker 2: and what how you guys feel about going to public
Speaker 2: places and what you do and how you think of it,
Speaker 2: because I don't know what it is. Sometimes when I
Speaker 2: think about death and I believe and I love you know,
Speaker 2: I believe in God, and I believe in heaven, and
Speaker 2: I believe all those things. But when I start to
Speaker 2: really truly think about it, I go down this rabbit
Speaker 2: hole where it's just like, but my kids are they
Speaker 2: going to be okay? And then they're not? And like
Speaker 2: I'm like, but if I go to I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: just like rabbit holes.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Help me, guys, I'm asking for help.
Speaker 2: What do you guys do? What's the email East and
Speaker 2: give it to them?
Speaker 3: Wind down at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 2: Wind down at iHeartRadio dot com. I promise I'll bring
Speaker 2: it up after this, guys. I just had to let
Speaker 2: y'all in on why if anyone saw me in Target
Speaker 2: and Lafayette while I ran out of there terrified. And
Speaker 2: Lafayat's a great area too, you think, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's it was a whole Foods right next door. Like
Speaker 2: but I'm like, hey, you never.
Speaker 3: Know when you when you perform concerts, does that go
Speaker 3: through your head?
Speaker 2: It didn't until so one girl I think she was
Speaker 2: on the voice something.
Speaker 3: I think she got Christina Grimy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was terrifying.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I played Route ninety one the year before
Speaker 2: the shooting. Oh my god, terrifying because I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: but no, there are definitely times I with I'm on stage.
Speaker 2: I mean even here on set, I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: where am I going to duck? Where am I going
Speaker 2: to go? It's so it's so disturbing that that's like
Speaker 2: where our minds have to go to. Or maybe it's
Speaker 2: just mine.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is because no, do you see
Speaker 2: that outbreak at that mall where everyone started like it
Speaker 2: was a massive like stampede because people thought there was
Speaker 2: an active shooter. Yeah, people are just so heightened now.
Speaker 3: I saw a video from New York Times Square on
Speaker 3: motorcycle backfires and it's like like the entire country has PTSD. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it's.
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Speaker 2: Don't roll your eyes at me, the one and only
Speaker 2: Miss Dee Wallace. Hi, I have I am so excited
Speaker 2: that you said yes, first of all, that you would
Speaker 2: talk to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm honored you as the only thing.
Speaker 2: That I'm really upset about, though, is the fact that
Speaker 2: we don't have wine with us right now because let
Speaker 2: me let me tell you, guys, my first stop with
Speaker 2: d Okay, So, I've obviously been a fan of yours
Speaker 2: for a very very very long time. You were beautiful,
Speaker 2: You're an amazing actress. I just I just love you.
Speaker 2: So when I found out that you were playing my Grandma,
Speaker 2: I about crap myself, Like, I was so excited, and
Speaker 2: I just, you know, they always say to not I
Speaker 2: get scared to meet the people that I that I've
Speaker 2: watched and grown up with and loved, because what if
Speaker 2: you were a complete b you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do know. I've been there. Yeah, I was
Speaker 4: with them, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, well here's the thing I'm going
Speaker 2: to just I'm like, okay, my favorite thing is wine,
Speaker 2: So I hope she loved wine. And then I'm thinking, God,
Speaker 2: what is She's an alcoholic? And I go to her
Speaker 2: door and then I give her a bottle of wine
Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm an alcohol you know, or just something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's gonna hate me the rest of the time.
Speaker 4: We shoot.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I d was in the hallway and I
Speaker 2: knew she was there. And I went up to you
Speaker 2: and I gave I was like, hey, I know, coming
Speaker 2: to New Iberia is kind of crazy. It's a very
Speaker 2: small town. I'm ordering food, so I got you some food,
Speaker 2: got you happy. But then the cherry on top was
Speaker 2: then I brought you the red wine.
Speaker 4: Ohmg, you were in like baby like.
Speaker 2: And she basically said, will you marry me? And I
Speaker 2: was just like, from that moment on is when I
Speaker 2: knew that we were going to be best friends. I
Speaker 2: just love it. No, but you've just been incredible to work.
Speaker 4: But we just have a heart connection.
Speaker 2: We do for sure, and I want to talk about
Speaker 2: that because you say you do a lot of healing
Speaker 2: work and we haven't been able to touch on it
Speaker 2: on set. So that's why I'm glad that I got
Speaker 2: to steal you away from set. Oh wow to talk
Speaker 2: about it. Where did that come from? And when did
Speaker 2: you know you had that innate ability to be able
Speaker 2: to not only heal, but to have that that feeling
Speaker 2: and that to recognize it.
Speaker 4: You know, we all have it.
Speaker 1: It's not some big mysterious thing. The inner information of
Speaker 1: the universe is out there for anybody. But you have
Speaker 1: to hold your intention to get it and ask for
Speaker 1: it and be open to it.
Speaker 4: And when I was a.
Speaker 1: Little girl, I would get hits like one time, my
Speaker 1: it was I don't know, two or three in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I was around eight or nine years old, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and I was very very close to my grandmother, who
Speaker 1: raised me for a lot of my life because we
Speaker 1: were poor and my mom had to work all the time.
Speaker 1: And I woke my mother up and I said, something's
Speaker 1: wrong at Grandma's house. And God bless my mother. She
Speaker 1: got up and we went in and called to Grandma,
Speaker 1: and Grandma didn't answer, so oh no. We got in
Speaker 1: the car and we drove over there and the cat
Speaker 1: had gotten up on the stove and turned all the
Speaker 1: gas on, and Grandma was in her bedroom and just
Speaker 1: hadn't heard the telephone, but the place was filling up
Speaker 1: with the gash.
Speaker 4: So we all get little messages like that.
Speaker 1: You've all had those thoughts where I should call blah blah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you either do or you don't,
Speaker 1: and then you go, gosh, darn it.
Speaker 4: And I wish i'd called blah blah. You know.
Speaker 1: Walked by my neighbors two months ago and I won
Speaker 1: When you know, I should really go see Francis. I
Speaker 1: really kind of feel a calling to go see how
Speaker 1: she's doing.
Speaker 4: She died two days later.
Speaker 1: So we all get the messages, we just don't listen,
Speaker 1: and if we listen, we kind of let them go.
Speaker 1: So now I ask for the messages intentionally. And it
Speaker 1: all started actually when again when my husband of eighteen
Speaker 1: years passed away suddenly, and I kind of dropped my
Speaker 1: knees and I said, I don't want to be pissed
Speaker 1: off and I don't want to be a victim. I
Speaker 1: want a way we can heal ourselves. And I really
Speaker 1: believe that's what in the Good Book it means by asking,
Speaker 1: you receive, because literally within thirty seconds I got my
Speaker 1: first message, which was use the light within yourself to
Speaker 1: heal yourself. So I've just been learning and expanding on
Speaker 1: that for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: And you were on set when he found out about that.
Speaker 2: What about your husband of eighteen years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in Newfoundland shooting the Newfoundland No New Zealand,
Speaker 1: Hellooundland was a whole other different movie, New Zealand shooting
Speaker 1: the Frighteners, Okay, and he had a heart attack and
Speaker 1: I flew back and they did the angioplasty.
Speaker 4: He was fine. They were holding filming, so he said.
Speaker 1: Honey, I'm fine, I'm going home tomorrow, go back, and
Speaker 1: I did. And four days later he got up and
Speaker 1: a blood clot hit his heart and he was gone.
Speaker 4: And my baby found him, my little girl. Yeah my.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean, oh gosh, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So you know, you can imagine.
Speaker 1: So I flew back home again, put on his party service,
Speaker 1: took my kid and my nanny and we flew back
Speaker 1: and I finished the film.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, damn.
Speaker 1: But that's really when it started opening everything up. I
Speaker 1: had one of the largest acting studios in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: at the time, and I would be watching scenes and
Speaker 1: get slammed with information, just slammed with information. And so
Speaker 1: all my students' lives started to change. They started to
Speaker 1: book jobs, find mates that they'd been looking for for ever.
Speaker 1: Then their parents wanted me to work with them, and
Speaker 1: then their friends, and now I've got clients all over
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: So what are you doing? That's that's what I want
Speaker 2: to lead into. Where can my listeners basically, where are
Speaker 2: you doing this? Where are you spreading or do you
Speaker 2: hold workshops? Is it the email that you showed me.
Speaker 1: I do hold workshops and I do speak, but I
Speaker 1: do private sessions all over the world every day when
Speaker 1: I'm not shooting. You know, it's the dichotomy of d
Speaker 1: I do horror films and then I and then I
Speaker 1: heal people from fear. Go figure it works for me.
Speaker 1: But you can book a private session at I am
Speaker 1: am I AMD Wallace dot com and just email me
Speaker 1: through there incredibly powerful sessions and you can ask the channel.
Speaker 1: I'm a clare Audiant channel, which means I hear message
Speaker 1: and sometimes they get pictures too. Sometimes I don't call
Speaker 1: myself a medium, but a lot of times I talk
Speaker 1: to the other side too.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I just think that's fascinating. I really do, because
Speaker 2: I believe in it, and I think there's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't deny.
Speaker 1: You cannot deny what comes through when person after person
Speaker 1: oh my god, because you know, the channels say it
Speaker 1: happened at three years old with your dad, what happened,
Speaker 1: and then the tears come and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's when my baby brother was born, or that's when
Speaker 1: so and so died, or you know, And I think
Speaker 1: I shared with you too that because I want to
Speaker 1: share this with the listeners because I think it's so
Speaker 1: important for us to get some insight into what's running us.
Speaker 1: Is that the way we see ourselves in the world
Speaker 1: and the way we see the world seeing us, it
Speaker 1: is all set in stone by the time we're seven
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you saying that on set.
Speaker 1: So if you really want to know what's running you
Speaker 1: and why you can't get on top of it, go
Speaker 1: back and see what was taught to you verbally, what
Speaker 1: was modeled to you that's a big one, or what
Speaker 1: you erroneously put together that's probably incorrect, you know when
Speaker 1: you were little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh man, I love that. Can I get a
Speaker 2: private reading later? I will pay for it. I will
Speaker 2: email you.
Speaker 4: I will I keep telling you come on over, to
Speaker 4: come on over to my room.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 4: I know you do.
Speaker 2: Know. It's funny because we were talking about how eystemes.
Speaker 2: I feel like I get really close to things, especially
Speaker 2: with work, and then it doesn't end up. But I
Speaker 2: think it's because I'm I'm holding myself back.
Speaker 4: We're all holding ourselves back the world.
Speaker 2: How do you break free from that? Though, Because it's like,
Speaker 2: even when I want to talk about that, like I
Speaker 2: can't because I'll just start crying because I know I'm
Speaker 2: doing it. It's like I know what I'm doing and
Speaker 2: I can't stop it.
Speaker 4: Yes you can, but how well.
Speaker 1: You can't find the how if you say you can't,
Speaker 1: So I can find what's running me. I can heal myself.
Speaker 1: I can be my own truth. You know, we spend
Speaker 1: most of our lives saying I don't know, So there's
Speaker 1: no way your brain's going to find out if you
Speaker 1: keep directing it not to know. Yeah, and what most
Speaker 1: people don't get see, we're all energy. Everything's energy. We
Speaker 1: learned that in fifth grade, guys. And energy has to
Speaker 1: have direction.
Speaker 4: It has to.
Speaker 1: Most of us are allowing our energy to be directed
Speaker 1: by other people's thoughts, other people's comments, other people's belief
Speaker 1: systems and perceptions, including religion, whatever religion you were brought
Speaker 1: up with by the time you were seven years old,
Speaker 1: past lives, things that are passed down.
Speaker 4: To us genetically.
Speaker 1: And my channel has a really interesting take on genetics
Speaker 1: because according to my channel, and I have never known
Speaker 1: my channel to be wrong yet.
Speaker 4: Of all the private sessions I've done.
Speaker 1: Ever, my channel says that genetics is just an idea
Speaker 1: that we've all said, Okay, I'll buy into that that
Speaker 1: runs in the family.
Speaker 4: I'll accept that.
Speaker 1: But if we truly are the directors of our own energy,
Speaker 1: which we are, because nobody else is going to choose
Speaker 1: our thoughts for us, nobody else is going to choose
Speaker 1: how we want to feel or experience things, We're all
Speaker 1: at choice about those things, and that choice is your freedom.
Speaker 4: Or your Hell.
Speaker 2: Hey Men's sister he no, on set, she'd go, that's
Speaker 2: always when we know before they say and camera and
Speaker 2: and action, that last last be okay, I just have
Speaker 2: to switch gears, just like a little teeny weeny bit.
Speaker 2: So obviously, you know you had a I mean you have.
Speaker 2: I mean how many you and Barry were talking about it?
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty three.
Speaker 4: No, two hundred. I just passed my two hundred movie.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 4: I don't know when that happened.
Speaker 2: No, but that's that's incredible. I mean, what do you
Speaker 2: out of all the films and TV shows that you've done, obviously,
Speaker 2: do you think people are know you most from ET
Speaker 2: or is that what the what's usually the you know?
Speaker 1: I think it's a toss up between e T and
Speaker 1: Kujo and the Howling Okay.
Speaker 4: If I go to Disneyland, for sure, it's et.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I go to a horror convention, it's
Speaker 1: all Kujo.
Speaker 3: In the Hawling.
Speaker 2: What's been your favorite project you've worked on to work on?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: No, what's the favorite like of those two hundred, What
Speaker 2: has been your favorite Kujo Kuja?
Speaker 4: Hands down?
Speaker 1: I just think I went as far as I could go,
Speaker 1: as honestly as I could get there. And in a
Speaker 1: project like that, that's not easy because you, by the
Speaker 1: very genre, you want to overdo and overact and over
Speaker 1: dramatize the the emotion instead of always going for the
Speaker 1: truth and allowing that to then blossom in the most
Speaker 1: real way that it can. I mean, obviously, I will
Speaker 1: always be indebted to the universe for bringing me et.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you the number of stories that I
Speaker 1: have where that film has changed people lives.
Speaker 2: But you've also have nightmares of the E T Phone
Speaker 2: Home that people like me come up to you and say,
Speaker 2: E T Phone home. No you did not, Yes I did.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Oh MG, oh MG, listeners MG.
Speaker 2: Don't walk up to d Wallins and say E T
Speaker 2: Phone home. Okay, take it from me. Not the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. I love you so much though, because
Speaker 2: you were an open book. I mean the second we started,
Speaker 2: the second we started talking about how many marriages we
Speaker 2: both had together, I mean that's I was like, this
Speaker 2: is my lady, I just what have you learned the
Speaker 2: most out out of love and your experiences with love
Speaker 2: and the relationships that you've had, Because you know me,
Speaker 2: I came and crying today in the trailer because I'm
Speaker 2: you know, what have you learned? What's the best piece
Speaker 2: of advice that you can I think the.
Speaker 4: Biggest thing.
Speaker 1: That screws this up in relationships is that we can
Speaker 1: taue you to look for the other person to define
Speaker 1: who we are, and we continue to let their needs
Speaker 1: and their feelings and their well belief systems instruct us
Speaker 1: as to what's okay with us. And I think if
Speaker 1: if everybody could go okay, I'm going to become the
Speaker 1: most complete, balanced, centered me that I can be, and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to attract someone who's complete and balanced,
Speaker 1: and then in both our completeness, we don't complete each other,
Speaker 1: but we create a complete relationship. I think that's the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for all of us, especially women, because you know,
Speaker 1: God forbid we eat an apple and the snake comes.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been inundated, right with the fact that
Speaker 1: we're second class citizens since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2: Have you seen any change in that though?
Speaker 4: Well? Sure, I mean, you know, piecemeal, piecemeal.
Speaker 1: The suffragettes got us the vote, and now we've got
Speaker 1: the hashtag me too moment, and I think more and
Speaker 1: more and more women are claiming they're right. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what, thirty forty years ago, we didn't even
Speaker 1: have the right to go to college. What Yeah, most women, No, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't accepted, wasn't accepted socially everybody. You were supposed
Speaker 1: to get married, have the babies, clean the house, and
Speaker 1: have the.
Speaker 4: Dinner ready at six o'clock.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong or less
Speaker 1: for that life, but not to have the choice. See,
Speaker 1: when you take choice away from people, what.
Speaker 2: You're like see when yeah, she's rev up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you take choice away from people, you screw
Speaker 1: with consciousness. And then and consciousness doesn't just create itself.
Speaker 1: It's not something that's just there. You define your consciousness.
Speaker 1: You choose how conscious you want to be. And if
Speaker 1: somebody takes your choice away from you, which is everywhere
Speaker 1: in our world right now? That limits you from your
Speaker 1: self creation and that's not okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I one hundred percent agree with you
Speaker 2: on that for sure. Where do you want to what
Speaker 2: would you want to do next? Like do what's your
Speaker 2: dream role? What's your Have you already done it? Are
Speaker 2: you kind of just loving where you're at where you're
Speaker 2: at now, or is there something that you haven't done
Speaker 2: yet that you want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to play a none that's really tormented and
Speaker 1: searching about her faith and what the truth is. I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to play that part. Don't ask me.
Speaker 4: Why I don't it. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I kind of have faith running in and out through
Speaker 1: my family pattern. This kind of sums up my family.
Speaker 1: My older brother was a Methodist minister and he worked
Speaker 1: his way through seminary shooting pictures for Playboy. That's kind
Speaker 1: of sums up my entire family right there, Die echotomy.
Speaker 1: I have just commissioned an awesome script for my daughter,
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Stone and myself.
Speaker 2: Who By the way, Gabrielle Stone, her daughter, has a
Speaker 2: book out. It's fantastic. It's called Eat Prey hashtag FML
Speaker 2: and great story about her life and relationships. It's it's
Speaker 2: so great. So you guys definitely go check that out
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Of course, we're having a love moment.
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 1: But it's a road trip, a mother daughter road trip,
Speaker 1: and all kinds of weird things happen. You don't really
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I'm telling her, Yeah, go sleep
Speaker 1: with that guy. And I brought some coke. You've never
Speaker 1: tried it to have some, you know. And and little
Speaker 1: by little, by little, you find out that we're on
Speaker 1: a road trip to Portland for an assisted suicide because
Speaker 1: she's dying of cancer.
Speaker 4: Oh my heart.
Speaker 1: But it's a beautiful, wow, beautiful, poetic, funny, heart wrenching scripts.
Speaker 4: And so that's my that's my big goal. You know.
Speaker 1: We've we've really been focused for a few months now
Speaker 1: on springing her book and you know, making a success
Speaker 1: out of that. She also is a director and has
Speaker 1: an option on a best selling internet book called Spilled Milk.
Speaker 2: Oh Awesome, which is a true story.
Speaker 1: About a young woman who was sexually molested by her
Speaker 1: father for years and gave herself up for that to
Speaker 1: protect her other siblings. And in high school, her counselor
Speaker 1: talked her into bringing him to court and he was
Speaker 1: convicted and he gets out in two years.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so uh, we're really focused on financing and
Speaker 1: raising money for that both those projects now and getting
Speaker 1: those off the ground.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, I love it. And again, everyone go to
Speaker 2: imd Wallace dot com for an amazing read and to
Speaker 2: connect with her world, because I'm telling you, I've I've
Speaker 2: been blessed to have her entermind and I hope that
Speaker 2: she sticks around.
Speaker 4: Oh, because that's just the worst though.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like summer camp and then people
Speaker 2: leave upsets. And that's what I hate the most, is
Speaker 2: because you form that friendship and that heart connection that
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to ever lose that. And well,
Speaker 2: it takes.
Speaker 4: It takes an effort, it takes, yes it does, and choice,
Speaker 4: but we've already made that, haven't.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you thank you for coming on?
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, my great pleasure.
Speaker 2: Do we have an emails?
Speaker 3: Yes? We do. This one is from Katie Uh. She
Speaker 3: says she loves the show. First of all, thank you
Speaker 3: Katie Uh. She's twenty five years old. She was with
Speaker 3: a guy for two and a half years. They had
Speaker 3: two dogs. They lived together, made a lot of life
Speaker 3: changes together, but then he broke up with her about
Speaker 3: a year ago, and she was expecting they were going
Speaker 3: to live their life together. When he broke up with her,
Speaker 3: he said she was a hard person to love. There's
Speaker 3: a phrase she replays in her head over and over
Speaker 3: and over. It's become her mantra, and she says, in
Speaker 3: the year since he's broken up with her, she's made
Speaker 3: a lot of bad decisions. Her eating has changed, her
Speaker 3: mood has changed, and she started sleeping with him on
Speaker 3: and off, kind of as a crutch, and then finally
Speaker 3: in May of this year, she blocked him. Hasn't spoken
Speaker 3: to him since, but she wants some advice on how
Speaker 3: to get out of that funk and how to ignore
Speaker 3: or how to react to that phrase. What do you
Speaker 3: do when someone says you're hard to love?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like that's not when someone says like,
Speaker 2: you're a hard person to love. I would just switch
Speaker 2: it and be like, well, what's maybe there's something for
Speaker 2: them that they're a hard person, Like they like they
Speaker 2: have their own projecting. It's yeah, it's projecting onto her.
Speaker 2: So it's like, don't don't take his stuff because so
Speaker 2: this kind of brings me to kind of what Michael
Speaker 2: and I struggle with. He'll be like, it's never good enough,
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, it is, but that's how
Speaker 2: you feel like it's not good enough because you have
Speaker 2: your own issues of not feeling good enough. So just
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I've said good job to this and this,
Speaker 2: but he's like, but but then you're not happy about this,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, but I am, but you're you're taking
Speaker 2: it in a difference. It's like, just because you have
Speaker 2: you feel because you struggle with not feeling good enough,
Speaker 2: you're projecting that onto me when I've never I haven't
Speaker 2: said anything that even doubted what just I loved that date?
Speaker 2: That was amazing. What do you mean it wasn't good
Speaker 2: enough just because I said, next time, let's go to
Speaker 2: the movies, or I would, hey, this was so much fun.
Speaker 2: Way maybe next date we should go to the movies.
Speaker 2: That'd be so much fun too, you know where it's like,
Speaker 2: that's not I was not like saying, And I get
Speaker 2: like the timing of things with that situation, but I
Speaker 2: also think it's also they're projecting their feelings on you.
Speaker 2: And you know not to. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: go to other to blame too. I think you should
Speaker 2: look into yourself. Okay, what are the parts that I
Speaker 2: should work on? What are the parts like? So for me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I can be a little passive aggressive, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's work on that, you know, and so how so
Speaker 2: I can be a little easier to love.
Speaker 3: And the important thing Katie to think about is that
Speaker 3: she says here like because I'm hard to love, I'm
Speaker 3: never going to have a family, I'm never going true.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, and don't and don't let that define you,
Speaker 2: because you are you and you know someone's gonna I mean,
Speaker 2: Lee Bryce wrote a damn song about it, and it's
Speaker 2: about you know, Sarah Bryce. It's like, yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's don't make it easy. It's just such
Speaker 2: a good song and it's fine. And I just you know,
Speaker 2: don't let that define you and just know that you
Speaker 2: know you're you are who you are, but also work
Speaker 2: on yourself.
Speaker 3: It's good advice.
Speaker 2: Thanks Easton.
Speaker 3: Here's one uh. This is from Danielle.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: She loves listening to you and Mike on the podcast
Speaker 3: and following you on Instagram. That is your Instagram is great.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, been a big fan for a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 2: I love you and everyone loved your dancing.
Speaker 3: On your Instagram, you talk about howmuch you love wine.
Speaker 3: What are some of your favorites. She says that after
Speaker 3: being pregnant, her chaste, her taste for it, she loved changed.
Speaker 3: She's always looking for new wines to try. So, what
Speaker 3: are some of your favorites.
Speaker 2: I'm a big cab girl. I love red wine, so
Speaker 2: I like Camus is my favorite, Camus Special Select. And
Speaker 2: then I like Honig anything from Orange Swift. I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of orn Swift, so abstract. And then I
Speaker 2: love I Love I can never know if it's how
Speaker 2: it's pronounced, but I think it's called papillon pep.
Speaker 3: Pep French for butterfly.
Speaker 2: Oh it's really good. Those are probably my favorite. And
Speaker 2: then a nice like middle of the middle of the
Speaker 2: road wine. It's called Saldo. It's like about like twenty bucks, real,
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Speaker 4: And then.
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Speaker 3: So here's one last email before we wrap this bad
Speaker 3: boy up.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: This is from Brittany Britain. She would like Mike to
Speaker 3: be included on this, but maybe you know, sorry Brett,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's better without him. Free to talk about this, uh,
Speaker 3: she wants you to talk about your recent triggers and
Speaker 3: how you're overcoming them. Woof Yeah, too heavy of one
Speaker 3: to end the show on.
Speaker 2: But oh Easton, I want to and then a good note.
Speaker 2: We talked about heavy stuff today. Look, triggers are hard,
Speaker 2: Triggers are tough. We were going through right now. We're
Speaker 2: in a season where it's it's it's been really tough.
Speaker 2: But how do I deal with my triggers?
Speaker 3: Yes? How are you overcoming them?
Speaker 2: I think the healthiest way to deal with triggers to
Speaker 2: talk about him. What I've learned in the past is
Speaker 2: that I used to shove things down and not talk
Speaker 2: about it, and then it'll it would come out so sideways,
Speaker 2: so I would be like upset at him about a lampshade,
Speaker 2: but really I'm talking about the trigger that I felt
Speaker 2: two weeks ago that he had no idea about. So
Speaker 2: I think it's staying ahead of it and being like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm triggered right now, and I just I feel sad
Speaker 2: and I feel lonely. And what the other person needs
Speaker 2: to do is meet you with empathy and grace and
Speaker 2: say I'm sorry you're feeling that way. What can I
Speaker 2: do for you? And just that's been the best thing
Speaker 2: for us because we've been able to really do that.
Speaker 2: But it's the days where we don't and we let
Speaker 2: we trigger, we let the triggers swallow, and it's bad
Speaker 2: because it does not come out in a beautiful light.
Speaker 2: So just try and stay ahead of it and be
Speaker 2: honest and be vulnerable. I know that's hard because I
Speaker 2: get it wrong all the time, but I think that's
Speaker 2: the best thing that you can do in a relationship
Speaker 2: when you have triggers come up.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's hard to I mean, I think it's
Speaker 3: hard to think about that stuff when you're in it.
Speaker 3: So it's so important to remember these words for when
Speaker 3: you're experiencing that because that's a good way to get.
Speaker 2: Out of it. Yeah, for sure. All right, Well this
Speaker 2: has been fun. Hope you guys have had fun on
Speaker 2: set in my trailer in New Iberia, Louisiana. Talk to
Speaker 2: you next week. El mamamm mhm