WEBVTT - NFC South Preview with Trevor Sikkema 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.039 Welcome to NFL Daily, Where has Andre three thousand and 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.319 one said the South got something to say? 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.600 NFC South time here in. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.840 The Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with my friend Jordan Rodrieg, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.239 who once covered a team in the NFC South, the 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.799 Carolina Panthers, and from across the country an NFC South territory, 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.439 although he's an enemy territory because he's sneaky a Bucks fan, 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.680 but he lives in Panthers territory. It's Trevor Sikama, by 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.280 popular demand, already. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.280 Back on the show. Welcome to Trevor. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.839 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.800 Great to be back with you guys, Jordan, and very 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.839 excited to do podcasts here with you on this platform 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.159 as well. We've got all sorts of NFC South knowledge 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.879 here on this show, so this could be good. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:47.320 I appreciate you guys having me back. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:48.400 Yes, God help us. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.400 You know I'm the only one here that well, actually 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.360 I don't know if that's true, but probably that had 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.840 season tickets to the two thousand New Orleans Saints quarterback 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.200 by Aaron Brooks. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:00:59.680 When I was in college. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.840 Wow. Gas, there like one of the most eight fun, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.640 eight and eight teams ever. There could be a lot 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.920 of eight and nine type of teams in this division. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.520 There were last year. We'll see We've done twelve minutes 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.399 per team for all of our division previews, so that's 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.200 what we're gonna do again. We have different categories that 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.040 we like to fill out. Will go alphabetical by city. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.280 Let's get going Eric behind the Glass and we'll start 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.480 with the Atlanta Falcons. I'll get us going. Why not 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.920 because this part's quick? What's bringing us joy for the Falcons? 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.160 Like at first, I just thought, Man, it's confusion with 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.160 this team. What is this team? Why is this team? 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.280 But let's not make it complicated. Bijon Robinson is an artist. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.319 I was thinking back to all the artists that have 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.840 played running back in the last twenty twenty five years. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.280 I think Bijon Robinson has a chance to be the best. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.160 It might be my very favorite to watch of all 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.280 those players. Fred Taylor's up there. There's a couple, but 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.559 he's right there and right in the middle of his prime. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.760 So I'm not making it any deeper than that that 0:01:58.840 --> 0:01:59.720 he's bringing me joy. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.960 Yeah, he is in involved in my bringing me joy too, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.800 because I've tried to almost like set a really firm boundary, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.880 like with most of these NFC South teams, as being 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.280 in therapy might suggest to do to me when chaos strikes, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.960 and this is a team where it is useless to 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.120 try to understand what it was what it's going to 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:23.079 be this year. The draft classes the last couple of years, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.600 very few picks, spending capital on players who will not 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.120 play for them most likely, if not all of this year, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.280 most of this year, and I just was starting to 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.960 overcomplicate it in my head. And really what simplified it 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.520 for me and brought me a lot of joy was 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.000 thinking about them extending their core, starting with Jean Robinson, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.560 Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and Matthew bergeron this is what 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.000 we're looking at for the future. This is a data 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.680 gathering year, inclusive to the quarterbacks. To me with the Falcons, 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.520 and that kind of brought me joy. I don't have 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.200 to overthink the Falcons this year, and in fact, I'm 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:52.919 not going to do it. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.799 I you know this what I'm going to say goes 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.079 along with Jon Robinson and that this is almost sort 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:01.839 of like the scheme Dream. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.240 But I have another thing for the scheme Dream, which 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.040 we'll get to in a second. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.480 But what brings me joy is the fact that this 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.320 offense is so much fun to watch when Jon Robinson 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:09.960 is the focal point. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.440 Right, they paid him like the focal point. They use 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.360 them like a focal point. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.560 I made a joke with some of the training camp 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.400 things that have happened over the last couple of weeks. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.200 I wonder if Kevin STEFANSI is gonna go out to 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.320 be Jehn Robinson and c it feels about a five 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.359 hundred touch season this year. You know, I just you 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.880 gauge the interest how he feels about it, right, But 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.839 what I do love about this is Kevin Stefanski ran 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.480 the most outside zone runs with the Cleveland Browns over 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.280 the last couple of years, and if fits like a 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.440 glove with this Atlanta offensive line. This Atlanta offensive line 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.160 is built around the outside zone run games. So to me, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.480 it was a scheme fit like a glove. So what 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.360 brings me joy is the fact that we have an 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.480 offensive minded head coach now that is paired with one 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.680 of the best artists out of the backfield in the 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.920 league in b Jon Robinson. So that is gonna give 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.080 me joy. And I think It's gonna be a great 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:55.760 year for Bijon. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.000 It's all connected. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.080 Like, my most important non quarterback is Bill Callahan, the 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.160 offensive line coach. And of course, you know we don't 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.640 count head coaches in this category two because Bill Callahan 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.800 has the reputation in the outside zone. Now you're talking 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:13.600 about Stefanski. What a great marriage. You have great continuity 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.080 on the offensive line. You know, you just signed Bergeron's 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.080 a young up and coming player, but you've had Linstrom 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.680 there forever, You've had Fisher there forever. Bill Callahan's coming 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.920 off two years where his magic did not really work 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.560 for him. Tennessee Titans fans do not view Bill Callahan 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.000 as like one of the great offensive line coaches right now. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.880 So can he get his mojo back? 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.920 Because if he can, and that line then starts overachieving. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.360 And the combination of Bijon and as you mentioned, Kevin 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.159 Stefanski in the outside zone, it all could hum in 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.440 a way that works. And I don't know about five 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.080 hundred touches. He's had three sixty five the last couple 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.440 of years, and so maybe maybe that cranks up to 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:47.920 four hundred. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.279 I don't want to see too much more than that. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.839 Listen, let's get crazy, right, because I think four hundred 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.360 plus is very much on the table for Jean Robinson 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.320 this year. Because Bill Callahan, first of all, is to 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.359 you guys's point is the outside zone coach. He's the 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.000 middle zone, outside zone coach. And what do smart teams 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.880 do but connect that directly to their screen game, into 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.240 their perimeter catch and run game. And that is something 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.880 where Jean Robinson I still think has incredibly untapped potential. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.640 As productive as he was in those concepts last season, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.360 I think it all connects together and also to the 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.920 scheme dream for me, which am I kind of crazy 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.520 to think that Tua is the perfect type of timing 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.120 distributor for that type of offense. I'm not trying to 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.160 over hype the Falcons here, let me be clear. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.040 I started with. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.320 Boundaries and I'm keeping up okay, But I really think 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.880 that when you look at the pieces and the philosophies 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.680 that all of these people bring together, and certainly the 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.960 type of outside zone and middle zone run handoff timing 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.560 that you need to adequately deploy in order to make 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.240 that sing, the timing that your offensive lineman need to 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.520 feel with the quarterback that Tua is very gifted at 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.479 when he's healthy. And then those the really quick sort 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.120 of trickeration handoff dump off passes. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:02.919 I like all of this. That's a little bit of 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.080 a scheme dream for me too. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.320 Yeah, I'm not saying that Stefanski is exactly like Mike McDaniel, 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.479 but like both of these guys wanted their run game 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.800 to get to the outside, whether it was those outside 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.320 zones or it was something to get into space. They 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.599 wanted space, they wanted speed. So Tua, I know, you know, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.880 coming from his time in Miami, some people roll their 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.760 eyes and think he's got no chance to succeed when 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.080 he's in Atlanta. I do think this is a situation 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.760 that sets up decently well for sort of what he's 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.680 done well in the past with Miami, coming from an 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.400 offense that could be somewhat similar in philosophy there, Like 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.320 Jordan was saying, my most important non quarterback because I 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.360 flipped to the other side of the ball for scheme dream, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.960 so I'll stay on offense. Talk about the most important 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.159 non quarterback, I do think it's Kyle Pitts because we 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.680 know what Jon Robinson is going to do for the 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.880 most part, we know what Drake London is going to do. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.799 I'm excited about zacharyah Branch on this team, but let's 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.000 face it, he's still just a rookie. He's gonna give 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.760 you some splash plays here and there, but I don't 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.880 think it's his full season type of a thing. If 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.360 you really want to lock space in this offense to 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.240 those timing rounds like you were talking about, manipulate the 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.120 defense the way that two would be familiar for it, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.560 or maybe Michael Pennix if he is the starting quarterback 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.560 for this team at any point in time, you kind 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.600 of have to get Kyle Pitts involved really really well. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.640 I think we need to see another one thousand yard 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.720 year from Kyle Pitts if this offense is going to 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.080 be what it needs to be for this team to 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.120 be above five hundred. We'll talk about the defense in 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:24.960 the second and I know the ceiling and the floor 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.040 of the records, but if this team's going to have success, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.040 it's going to come from the offensive side of the ball. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.680 And I think when you look at the offense, there's 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.280 a lot of expected, there's a lot of like, Okay, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:36.960 we think that they're going to do good here, we 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.160 think this guy's gonna do good year. The big question 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:40.840 mark they could really tip the scale one way or 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.160 the other to me is Kyle Pitts and how much 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:44.360 of an X factor he becomes. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.480 Yeah, and if Zach Robinson, their former offensive coordinator, did 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.920 something well, I think it was scheme up Kyle Pitts. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.360 When I watched those guys whore he was kind of 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.800 the primary guy late in the year. They did a 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.360 pretty good job. And to kind of close the to 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.320 a discussion on some level, at least for me, like 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.160 my things go wrong if it's just like this idea 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.440 that the pew pew pew, you know, point guard distributor 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.560 Stefanski to it all goes like well together, Like I 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.200 don't know, I haven't seen two it in a while 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.400 in a different system. Like if that doesn't fit, it 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.040 all falls apart. You mentioned defense, and that's where I 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.920 go with scheme dream is that Jeff Olbrick did an 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.320 incredible job along with Raheem Morris last year scheming up pressure, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.960 making things very difficult for some of the best teams 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.720 in the league. It was because of their defense that 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.640 they beat the Bills and the Rams in some really 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.600 big time games. Now you don't have Jalen Walker. He's 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.840 the addresser out for the season. You have a very 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.120 veteran mix of young talent and veterans that are good 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.040 in the back end, good secondary lot of talent. Aj Terrell, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.800 Xavier Watts, you know Jesse Bates, you have his brother, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.400 Avianterrelle like, there are guys there. But man, I don't 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.760 know Trevor what you saw, what you're thinking defensively because Olbrioke, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.120 I think they're close to their ceiling last year, him 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.920 and Raheem Morris and now like you're you're gonna be 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.880 without peer James Pierce because of a suspension. You're gonna 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.960 be without Jalen Walker. And man, you really need that 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.640 scheme to do extra work this year because I don't 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:07.880 think the players are quite there. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.079 Yeah, I mean that's the I'll combine these two categories here. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.040 This something goes wrong, if it's similar to what you 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.480 talked about, it's if somebody can't get after the quarterback. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.800 Walker's got the torn acl. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.559 We have no idea what James Pearce is going to 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.640 be in his availability this upcoming season. Let us not forget. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.360 We'll give the Falcons credit. I'm glad that you did 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.800 with Jeff Ulbrick. They were second to the NFL in 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.480 team sacks last year, which I when I look that 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.360 up because I kind of wanted to go this way, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.200 I was like, huh, I wonder how well they got 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.640 for the quarterback. I totally forgot that they finished second 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.720 in the NFL in total team sacks. But when you 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.000 look at the guys who got sacks for them, ten 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.800 and a half from James Pierce Junior, five and a 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.400 half from Jalen Walker, you're three and a half from 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.679 Kaiden nellis right. I mean like there's there's players like 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.680 Ruke Roro had three and a half as well. So 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.400 there's so many of those sacks that are either not 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.480 there already because of free agency and they're not there, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.120 or it's just a massive unknown injury, potential suspension like 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.520 whatever it is. So there's so much unknown from that 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.160 sack total that they had the year before. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:05.679 They have to be able to get after. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.040 The quarterback, and I think the way that they're going 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.520 to need to do that is by dialing up the pressure, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.120 mainly the bodies that they're going to have to throw 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.719 out the line of scrimmage. Now, I think that that's 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.880 a scheme dream for me because I love both of 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.800 their safeties. I know that Jesse Bates dealing with a 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.640 little bit of a back injury, but I'm a huge 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.680 Xavier Wats fan, and I want to see more single 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.719 high stuff with this team. When you look at the 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.320 Browns and know it was more Jim Schwartz than it 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.439 was Kevin Sefanski, but they ran the most cover one 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.840 in single high looks in the NFL over the last 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.520 couple of seasons. Let Xavier Watts play that single high 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.360 center fielder type of role and let Jesse Bates hunt 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:40.880 over the middle of the field. I think if you 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.040 do that, you're going to be able to be happy 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.880 with the results from those safeties because they've got the 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.880 skill sets to do it. But also you're going to 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.600 have those extra bodies to be able to throw at 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.080 the quarterback the way that you need to. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.800 Now, it's great in theory, but I think looking at 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.320 the rest of the NFC South, I don't know if 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.320 they're going to be able to play single high very 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.760 much with some of the layered receivers we've got on 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.200 these other teams. But just debates is back probably hurts 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.360 from carrying the team or the potential of carrying the 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.880 defense this off season. That's exactly why things go wrong. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.520 If who is pressuring the quarterback? How are they scheming 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.480 up pressure? What are they costing the rest of their 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.040 very very talented defensive backfield by the fact that they're 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.000 going to have to do rely on a lot of 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.040 scheme in order to get after opposing quarterbacks this year. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.000 Jeff Ulbrich, he's made a lot with a little before. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.559 There's no reason to think that he can't do it again. 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.000 But the thing that really is a more bigger picture 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.600 for me of things going wrong if is the fact 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.200 that they put in so many of these resources for 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.000 these edge rushers who to fix their problem, and they 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.199 did fix it, and then now it's yesterday's problem all 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.560 over again, and their draft picks were depleted, and they 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.280 could not be aggressive in their team building over the 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.800 last two years because of how many resources were going 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.080 toward trading up to get a second edge rusher to start, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.760 And then you know guys that aren't even going to 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.120 be on the field for your second year, and you 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.720 can't pay your veterans who walk in that case. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.679 They had a strange off season where you know, a 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.600 lot of the good players you mentioned, some of them 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.760 went away. David O Yamada is another guy who played 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.960 a lot for them, and they signed a lot of 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.680 depth guys. It was like a thing new gms tend 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.400 to do the first year, like let's sign a lot 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:14.200 of players who aren't necessarily going to start. But yeah, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.240 it's not a lot of juice right now at the edge, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.199 it's Samson Ebcom is still kicking around. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.520 Is probably a starter for them. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.080 My guy and Azizo Jalari's there, Cam Thomas, like Braylen Trace, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.079 the guy they drafted a few years ago. I had 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.040 totally missed the fact that Brandon Dorles, a third year 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.040 Day three defensive tackle, now had a and a high 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.920 a and a half last year. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.080 Okay, why is he always believe? 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.200 Yeah, that's Ricky Morris loved him. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.200 I mean, if a second year player on a different 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.240 team at defensive tackle got eight and a half sacks, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.040 they would be a much bigger star. All right, that 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.160 this is this is the Falcons. They're they're a confusing team. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.520 Let's kind of bring it home here. What is your 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.560 ceiling and floor? You're trying to create boundaries. Jordan, what 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.000 is your boundaries for this team? 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.280 Move? 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.600 Well, it's for the NFC South in general. Greg. My 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.160 answer will be the same for Oh, that's a cop out. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:07.319 You can't don't. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.719 No, No, it is not. It's eight and nine or 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.520 nine and eight. That's what I'm saying. For the Atlanta Fountains. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.440 The floor is so much lower for all these teams. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.080 Maybe not the Bucks, we'll get to them, but all 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:18.840 these teams. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.439 Yeah, my ceiling is my ceiling is nine and eight 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.079 for this team, but the floor is much lower. I 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.920 think the floor is like five and twelve for them. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.360 But yeah, that's right as well. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.959 That was the exact combination I believe I had was 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.319 nine and eight. I actually I think it could go 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.120 wrong enough that they have the number one overall pick, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.920 that they're like the three win team, that they're the 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:40.800 worst team in the league. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.640 I think it's I think it's out there. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.120 I would put a and I'm a person who tries 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:50.000 to like just recognize the multiplicity of possibilities of every season, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.280 and I think there's probably eight to ten teams I 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.280 would put on that list, but the Falcons are definitely 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:54.760 on that list. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.440 Listen, the NFC South has and the Falcons certainly have 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.160 really confounded the mind before. Right, But if you have 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.840 skill guys that are this good, and you have an 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.400 offensive line that has tieh of a floor, I just 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.280 don't think you can be that bad. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:13.920 I just don't. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:14.120 Now. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.560 Listen, I think there's an argument. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.400 Falcons you have often had me in the first half. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.600 I'm not gonna lie. So this this could go terribly 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:23.760 wrong for your girl, Jordan. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.360 I was curious how how it would look like. I 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.440 didn't even know the Vegas odds until just now I 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.160 thought to look it up. The Falcons are the last 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.360 team in terms of over underwin total six and a 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.400 half wins right now, if you took eight, because you 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.360 said they're all going to get to eight, that would 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:39.600 be the over for three. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.600 Of the teams in the division. So you're you're optimistic. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.320 All right, Let's go to another My math is always flawless. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.760 Another one of those. I will make you go one, two, three, four. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.600 At the end, you're going to pick. We're going to 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:50.880 pick it. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.560 What balance? No time about compromise, greg. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.960 Because because last year, tie breakers are important. The Carolina Panthers. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.000 Yeah, and if they tie. If they tie, she's got 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.920 to name the tiebreakers. What is it most field goals made? 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.920 You know, Well, that's the thing, time spent in the 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.280 opponents zone. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:07.680 I like them better, you. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:14.000 Know, right, because Carolina, we would think so much differently. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.200 About them if they didn't get that tie breaker. If 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.760 let's say Atlanta, who also won the same amount of 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.280 games last year as Tampa and Carolina, even though they 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.480 were eliminated four weeks left in the season. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:25.800 Never seen anything like that. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.280 Then they won four straight, ended up tying for first, 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.680 and Carolina gets to go to the playoffs. But they 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.240 had the same record as Atlanta and Tampa eight wins. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.800 Let's go to the Panthers. What is bringing you joy? 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.480 We'll start with Trevor on this one. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.520 I think the new defensive editions brings me joy here 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.440 for the Carolina Panthers, this is one of the worst 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.240 teams in the NFL when it came to middle of 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.360 the field coverage last year. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.360 Their linebacker unit just straight up was not good enough. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.280 And you infused that with Devin Lloyd, who was one 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.640 of the best in the league last season and has 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.520 been throughout the course of his career. Going through his 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.600 rookie contract. I think just over all the new defensive 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.600 editions though, like what Jalen Phillips could be for Derek Brown, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.160 I think he's going to be really huge for them. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.320 But specifically, I just think that those two big new additions. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.960 I love that Carolina just took the big swings. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:12.440 I really do. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.640 Like these were two of the biggest names in free agency. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.800 I loved the Carolina came away with both of them, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.720 and it's a good thing they did, honestly, Like with 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.440 s Gordon going down for the year and them just 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.560 being a little bit banged up already, like they're really 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.360 going to have to be on top of things on defense, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.840 and I think that they really addressed their two biggest needs. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.160 They've already got some good young guys in the secondary 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.120 who are either established or coming along, so you feel 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.120 good about it there, but that middle of the field 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.960 defense had to be so much better than it was 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.120 the year before. So what brings me joy about this 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.560 team is that they were aggressive in free agency. They 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.240 looked at the fact that they won the division. They said, no, no, no, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.240 this wasn't luck to us. We didn't look at this 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.520 as oh Tampa Bay Blewett or anything like that, Like, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.920 we won this division and they want to keep taking 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.800 steps forward. They want to win it again this year, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.480 and I think they put their money where their mouth was. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.120