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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I Eat, Breathe, and sleep The New York Jets my team.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're joined by our least favorite Sims. That

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Speaker 5: is great.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, great to see it.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of brother's house, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Doing he's doing great. He's doing good. You know. Matt

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Speaker 2: is uh, he's in the you know, kids are young,

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Speaker 2: so he's dealing with that. He's got a whole I mean,

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Speaker 2: my brother, I'm a I think he could be a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal coach, right, that's to me, that's what he is.

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Speaker 2: And he's got all these kids, high school, grade school

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Speaker 2: that work with him and they go and learn how

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Speaker 2: to throw the football from him mainly, and my dad's

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Speaker 2: there a little bit too, but he's he's he's awesome,

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Speaker 2: and he's awesome at that. He really is. I always

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Speaker 2: thought Matt would end up being a coach in the

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Speaker 2: NFL really right, And I think he's kind of doing

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Speaker 2: both and figuring out his either way. But he's he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be good at whatever he does, whether he talks

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Speaker 2: to you idiots or not.

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Speaker 5: Listen. Awesome analyst and a good friend.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one Jit in my twenty four years

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Speaker 1: here I started with the team in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: has purchased me a pair of Air Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And that was your brother that actually got that from

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Speaker 5: his Nike stipend.

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Speaker 2: But that was that's a nice thing to get.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty sweet jus. You take care of guys. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I definitely took care of guys. I did and had.

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Speaker 2: I had a pretty big Nike contract at one point

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Speaker 2: when I was, you know, starting down there in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: But you got to take care of the guys in

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Speaker 2: the organization. You know, it's not always the job of

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Speaker 2: the third string or practice squad quarterback to do that,

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Speaker 2: right because they're usually not exactly swimming in the money

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Speaker 2: and all that. But I always made an effort. The

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Speaker 2: tape guys, right, the film room guys, the training staff,

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Speaker 2: the weight room, guys that I was gonna try to do,

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Speaker 2: you know, extra extra stuff to try to help them

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Speaker 2: and make life a little easier because the guy they

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Speaker 2: work so hard.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the Judge Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: What's standing out about them this offseason right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm a big fan of that that

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Speaker 2: group up in Detroit. Yep, I am man. I'm a

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Speaker 2: big fan of Aaron Glenn. So, I mean the first thing,

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Speaker 2: I and when you talk about strong personalities that can

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Speaker 2: come come to a team and change the personality, the culture,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, right that, that to me

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Speaker 2: is what I like. So yeah, from that that standpoint,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be done the way he wants it

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Speaker 2: to be done. And that's the Dan Campbell way, the

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Speaker 2: Bill Parcels and Sean Payton way.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like about it. Your dad played for Parcels.

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Speaker 1: Do you see some of Parcels? They see that influence

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Speaker 1: from all those guys there, right. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: not about oh, this.

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Speaker 2: Is what we do what defense? I only do that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, wait, who are playing this week? Oh

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Speaker 2: this week we have to do this, Oh who we

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Speaker 2: play next week? Well that this this week, now we

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Speaker 2: have to do that. We gotta change it. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do whatever we gonna do this week to do win

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Speaker 2: the game. We're not gonna be like, oh, this is

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Speaker 2: what we play. We play Seattle scheme and we're just

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Speaker 2: gonna do that all all the time. Right. I like

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Speaker 2: that aspect. I like game plans specific, So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of that. Also, I think what I

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Speaker 2: see with him is his ability, like a Parcels or

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Speaker 2: a Sean Payton, to relate to players, can be their buddy,

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Speaker 2: but also can be the jerk and let you know

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Speaker 2: a little bit like, Hey, I like you, but that

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Speaker 2: that what you did yesterday in practice, that's stung. What

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Speaker 2: the hell are you doing? It? Better be better? And

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Speaker 2: to me, that's what I found from Ben Johnson, Dan

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Speaker 5: Tannor Hangstram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first time signal caller, passing game coordinator with Detroit.

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Speaker 1: What do you see from the Allion's offense? I and

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Speaker 1: our personnel is different, and also what's your anticipation now

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Speaker 1: is a guy who plays the position? Was an analysis

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Speaker 1: and an analyst in the National Football League. How is

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Speaker 1: he gonna call players?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the million dollar question, right, I don't

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Speaker 2: know him that well, I don't. I you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know that. That's the All I know is that

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Speaker 2: he comes from a guy and Ben Johnson that I

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Speaker 2: would go is the best offensive coordinator about to be

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Speaker 2: head coach candidate to me since Shanahana McVeigh. That's where

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Speaker 2: that's a high regard I put it Ben Johnson. Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson with me was no doubt one of the five

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Speaker 2: four or five best offensive mines in football for like

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Speaker 2: the last three years. When I watched film of him

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Speaker 2: a little bit what I said with Aaron Glenn, Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's one week it's this, the next week it's whoa.

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Speaker 2: It's a different plan of attack. He knows how to

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Speaker 2: set up plays, right, he knows how to dangle this.

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Speaker 2: Hey look we did this, We did this. Hey look

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Speaker 2: it's coming again. Oh here's a curveball off of it.

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Speaker 2: You're screwed, right, So he understands that, And then I think, too,

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Speaker 2: what I'm hoping is understood here is you understand defenses.

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Speaker 2: They know how to expose rules of defenses. They don't

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Speaker 2: gonna just be really detailed and execute them the right way.

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Speaker 2: They know how to go, wait, we're gonna run this

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Speaker 2: we do this little combination, this guy right here is screwed.

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Speaker 2: He can't be right right. And that's what I find

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Speaker 2: great about their offense, and hopefully he can bring that

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Speaker 1: So we'll work our way up to the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: But when you see what the Jets have in offensive

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Speaker 1: also have a guy on the outside who has done

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Speaker 1: some historic things in his first three seasons of Garrett

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Speaker 1: Wilson North to eighty receptions on one thousand yards of

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Speaker 5: So what do you anticipate this offense? Beam, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to look very similar to Detroit, ye, And I

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Speaker 2: think with Aaron Atlanta is a defensive head coach. Usually

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Speaker 2: their belief a little bit is run the ball too,

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Speaker 2: control the clock, Let my defense rest a little bit, right,

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Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be true dedication to the

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Speaker 2: run game. And that's again that's what I like too.

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Speaker 2: Like you talked about you got good running backs. You

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Speaker 2: had a lot of plays last year where I go, wait,

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Speaker 2: you're running the ball good. Oh you're kind of Oh

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Speaker 2: we're throwing it out here for a one yard game?

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Speaker 2: Why why I don't understand it? Oh we're throwing this.

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Speaker 2: Oh we checked to the slant again, Why I don't

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Speaker 2: know that? The holes up the middle, we're good. So, like,

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Speaker 2: none of that's gonna happen. And that's where I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a different attitude of your football team

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Speaker 2: this year. That's what it's gonna be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more like, Hey, no, no, there's no checks out of this play.

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Speaker 2: We're running ninety six power king and I don't give

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Speaker 2: a damn what defense they're in. That's what we're running.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna be good at every defense we face

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Speaker 2: and know how to block it. And that's what and

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Speaker 2: that's that's how attitude starts. Right, How did anybody in

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Speaker 2: the old days. Ever run the football without the RPO,

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Speaker 2: with the re adoption. I mean, how do they do it?

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. Yeah, right now, you can't.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't Philadelphia, right, look at them. Philadelphia has three

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Speaker 2: run plays. They have like ten plays on their offense.

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Speaker 2: But they just go, you know, we're better than you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna dominate you. Deal with it, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: execute it. So sorry for the better. We anticipate this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Good goodlable. Does my brother swear like that?

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Speaker 5: If he does, he keeps that internal Okay?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: So what changes for a quarterback if you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: playing more under center? Yeah, because we see a lot

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Speaker 1: of systems nowadays where hey, these guys are living in

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Speaker 1: the gun.

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Speaker 5: Detroit did not live in the gun.

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Speaker 2: No, none of the good teams are living in the

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Speaker 2: gun really accepted for I mean, like the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers going to the Super Bowl, what they did, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you see. I think Sean Payton he wants to be underneath.

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Speaker 2: The big thing is Wait, running the ball first off

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Speaker 2: I think it'll continue to be popular. And I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna continue to see offensive line coaches be dangled

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Speaker 2: in the run game and all that together. But what

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Speaker 2: I think, what it does in so many ways we

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Speaker 2: talk about attitude running the football, okay, but then off

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Speaker 2: of that, the number one way to get big plays

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Speaker 2: in offensive football right now it's the play action pass game,

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Speaker 2: and those are the teams that are thriving, you know,

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Speaker 2: So you couple that with the state of I have

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Speaker 2: this conversation with some of my NFL friends sometimes is

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Speaker 2: college kids aren't taught how to tackle anymore. There's all

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Speaker 2: these rules even in college about pads and how much hours.

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Speaker 2: Then there's all these rules in the NFL about how

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Speaker 2: many times you can put on pads, and like, tackling

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Speaker 2: is a little bit of a lost art in the

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Speaker 2: NFL right now. So I think a little bit offensive

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Speaker 2: coaches and gone, man, good running back, physical running the ball.

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Speaker 2: Actually we can get five and six yards a lot

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Speaker 2: more consistently than I thought we could maybe back in

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Speaker 2: the old days. And that's where the game has changed,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's where you're gonna see more. Hey, Breece,

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Speaker 2: up the middle. Oh it looks like it's not again.

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Speaker 2: Oh he kept it. Oh no, There goes Garrett Will's

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Speaker 2: and down the middle of the field on a twenty

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Speaker 2: five yard crosser like you might see im and Ross

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Speaker 2: Saint Brown, and he's running and making big plays. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you're gonna see more from this offense,

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Speaker 2: a more down the field attacking passing game to go

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Speaker 2: along with power running football. And that to me is

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Speaker 2: the hardest thing to guard in football, because now you

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Speaker 2: make a defense defend every score.

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Speaker 1: Inch of the field. I'm glad you mentioned Presaul. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is his potential? Well, we've seen him a couple

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, he's got superstar talent there. I only see

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Speaker 2: You know, you see those guys up in Detroit. There's

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Speaker 2: That's to me what I would love to see out

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Speaker 1: I get a sense from Marrick Glenn speaking to him yesterday,

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Speaker 1: You saw that in Detroit. Yes, you saw how effective

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Speaker 2: Hard twelve play seventy five yard drives or it's too

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Speaker 2: But even for them, that's why they're underwhelming. They can't

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Speaker 2: and those are advantages that are needed, you know. You

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Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see more of that from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this is the million dollar question, and

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Speaker 2: I'm nowhere near ready to rank or say that.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna cause some hell whenever you release this.

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Speaker 2: Well, I usually do. I usually do. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: all know Cam and Shador Sanders kind of stand above

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Speaker 2: He's bigger than people realize. His arm can the ball

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Speaker 2: I like, Yeah, he's a little raw, so it is shador.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the team is that far off, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean I really don't. The defense. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: every quarterback goes, oh, it's this defense. Okay, I'm comfortable

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Speaker 2: but I'm comfortable with that defense. Nothing's tricking me, right.

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Speaker 2: What turnovers happen because you get tricked like, oh crap,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see him there, or or wait they dropped

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Speaker 2: what the good defenses do in football. That's to me,

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Speaker 2: where the Jets with the talent they have on the

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Speaker 2: with their defense. I could go through other Marquee defenses

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Speaker 2: of that. And that's why I'm pumped to see Aaron

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Speaker 1: Do you like the match of Glenn and Wilkes because

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Speaker 2: Definitely, I do. And I like Steve you know. I

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Speaker 2: I think he's great because he's got head coaching experience,

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Speaker 2: Glenn's here every now and then and go, hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. Aaron Glenn out let alone, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna add to Aaron Glenn's defense. And Aaron Glenn also

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Speaker 2: too when he's a head coach, as you know, you

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Speaker 2: get in there. I'm a defensive head coach. I want

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Speaker 2: fact that he has Steve Wilks to go, hey, get

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Speaker 2: great advantage to have too.

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Speaker 5: That first news.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not calling the place.

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Speaker 2: I don't love that, Okay, I'm not gonna lie. I

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Speaker 2: But I said that all the time. I'm always I've

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Speaker 2: you got the job because everyone was going, damn, you

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Speaker 2: call a great game on offense, and then you get

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Speaker 2: even though you're not as good as me. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: Wilkes is damn good. So that that that evens it

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Speaker 2: And maybe that'll happen once he just gets is, you know,

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Speaker 1: Him looking at the entire operation, and there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: I got you, and listen, I want to make it

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Speaker 1: Tyra Teller has a lot of experience in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League he's been a break before multi stops. How

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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean they gotta figure out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: mad that Tyrod Taylor is the backup to anybody like that? No,

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Speaker 1: Where do you land on Justin Fields if he's if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I like just I like Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: else and do that. But there's just still questions about

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Speaker 2: That's what would worry me. Right, He's tough. He's arguably

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Speaker 1: One thing that stands out to me about him, and

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Speaker 2: I got you there. If there's an angle, you can go,

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Speaker 2: fake some of that stuff. Boom, there goes Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 2: over the top. I hear you, and that's why.

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Speaker 5: He said that.

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Speaker 1: People listening and watching this right now, Jets fans are like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you there. I hear you there. But

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Speaker 5: I will tell you this. People in that locker room

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Speaker 5: love Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Every locker room he's ever been in his loved. My

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Speaker 2: brother loves Tyrod Taylor. Tyro Taylor's I know he probably

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Speaker 2: doesn't like me because I've said some of the things

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Speaker 2: I've said before, But I got a lot of respect

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Speaker 2: for Tyrod Taylor and the way he approaches the game,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Speaking of approaches, how do you actually go

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Speaker 1: about studying the college quarterbacks?

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Speaker 5: What are you looking for?

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Speaker 1: Because it's a different game, Yeah, they're playing than in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. So when we finally get your

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Speaker 1: rankings out and people start coming after SU, what's your process?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, one is talent.

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Speaker 5: You gotta have talent.

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Speaker 2: It's plain and simple. The greatest quarterbacks of all time

448
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Speaker 2: all have superior talent. So I look at that right away.

449
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Speaker 2: I mean Aaron Rodgers is and it was who he

450
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Speaker 2: was because it's one of the greatest arms in the

451
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Speaker 2: history of football, if not the greatest of his prime,

452
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Speaker 2: the quickest release ever, and then top three accuracy all time,

453
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Speaker 2: and then always a gun slinger that take care of

454
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Speaker 2: the ball better than anybody ever. Right, right, But that's

455
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Speaker 2: the first thing, right, I'm a talent guy. Then I

456
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Speaker 2: want to go through it and don't look at stats,

457
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Speaker 2: don't look at the offense and blame the quarterback for

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Speaker 2: the offense. Like you heard me talking to somebody a

459
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Speaker 2: minute ago about Bo Nicks. Last year, everybody was telling

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Speaker 2: me Bo Nicks. So he's not calling these plays. He's

461
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Speaker 2: just the quarterback of a college football team. You gotta

462
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Speaker 2: decipher through the BS sometimes and start to go okay, wait, screen, okay,

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Speaker 2: good scream. Oh wait, but here's a deep throw. Oh damn,

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Speaker 2: it's on the money. Oh laser. Okay, all right, he

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Speaker 2: didn't do it that many times this game, but I saw, okay,

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Speaker 2: there was an inkling he can do it, and you

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Speaker 2: gotta work through that, right, you gotta work through first

468
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Speaker 2: of like, what is he responsible for we're out there?

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, there was nobody open, but they still got

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Speaker 2: a twenty yard game because he made an unbelievable throw.

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Speaker 2: What that gets like a double plus? Right? Right? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh there are people open and oh he checked it

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Speaker 2: down for a five yard game. That's a negative for me,

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Speaker 2: like everybody else has grating sites. Oh you know, positive,

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Speaker 2: you got a completion. I'm going there's somebody open for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown twenty five yards down the middle. But we're

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Speaker 2: getting a positive grade because we checked it down, right,

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Speaker 2: So you know, accuracy, talent, size, of course, ability to

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Speaker 2: move and move the pocket. But to me, what I

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Speaker 2: always just say is decipher through the bolt. Right. That's

481
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Speaker 2: kind of where I think I've been fortunate or been like,

482
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Speaker 2: it's been great that I've been top on my dad

483
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Speaker 2: and all these quarterback people all the time, as I've

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Speaker 2: been taught to look through that. And that's where I

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Speaker 2: came out with. I know Mahomes is four and seven

486
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Speaker 2: in Texas Tech, but I watched every throw. He's the

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Speaker 2: best quarterback in football. He should be the number one

488
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Speaker 2: pick in the draft, like, there's not should be a doubt,

489
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Speaker 2: but he's not a winner. I didn't know he had

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Speaker 2: to carry the whole team. Now about this game, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I watched that game when he was going You mean

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Speaker 2: the TCU game where nobody was open ever the whole

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Speaker 2: game and he was under pressure. Oh that is he

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Speaker 2: superman or is he a human? I don't know. And

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Speaker 2: that's where people got to get through some of.

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Speaker 1: That stuff, right, So you have to have certain qualities

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Speaker 1: to play up in the Northeast. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: December January medlife state medaans.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Now it's not maybe as much as it used

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Speaker 2: to be because it's global warming. Right. I have this

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Speaker 2: conversation with my dad a lot because he's like Christopher,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It just doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like it's ever because windy your as cold as Oh Dad, it's.

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Speaker 5: Global warming this morning. You want to take this it's.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not a myth though, Dad, Like when

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Speaker 2: it's seventy five in December, there's something wrong, right, But

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Speaker 2: either way, no, I do think you have to take

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Speaker 2: that into account. It's still a factor and we know

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Speaker 2: how windy it can be up there, right, Phil Simms,

510
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, right, Eli. Manning big guys, big hands can

511
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Speaker 2: control the ball in the elements is crucial up there,

512
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Speaker 2: and especially if you want to throw the ball down

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Speaker 2: the field right and be explosive, which I think this

514
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Speaker 2: offense wants to do. You better have that guy that

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Speaker 2: you know you can't go. Oh man, it's fifteen miles

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Speaker 2: prior wins today. We can't do half of our plays today. Right.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, but you can't. That can't be the case.

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Speaker 2: You want to have a guy, But Josh Allen up

519
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo, we can throw it right through it, no problem.

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Speaker 2: So I do think you got to take that in account.

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Speaker 1: All right, So speaking of case, Yeah, we got a

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Speaker 1: game here, state your case.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So do.

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Speaker 1: You want to do pro free agency or draft or both?

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Speaker 1: I got I got the pro free agency potential guy.

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Speaker 2: And you're just gonna pick a guy, and I'm gonna

527
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Speaker 2: state my case.

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Speaker 5: So, well, why would it make sense for the Jets? Okay,

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Speaker 5: you'll pick a guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not that deep into the draft yet.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So you want to do prof I think.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean the draft if you want to keep

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Speaker 2: me to the quarterbacks, a little in some of the past.

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Speaker 5: Rusher, I might cheat with the quarterbacks. Okay, do a

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Speaker 5: pro free agent?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you want me to pick this one off the top?

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Speaker 2: Are you like? No? Are you giving me like the

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Speaker 2: like the old like you know, Handmaid or what's on

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Speaker 2: the hand it made? Old Maid? Old Maid? Do you

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Speaker 2: remember that game? Nope?

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Speaker 5: Nope.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Joe want Johnson? Yeah, they want

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Speaker 2: to do another one that's not that sexy. We can

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Speaker 2: come up with sexier.

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Speaker 5: Kind of your case.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go state your case.

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Speaker 5: Go for it. Do you like that one or not?

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Speaker 2: We'll second.

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Speaker 5: Let's go seci alrightin.

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Speaker 2: Huh, Kaseki is I think a top tier pass catching

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Speaker 2: tight end. You're gonna get nothing for him in the

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Speaker 2: in the run game. Really, that's not what he's about.

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Speaker 2: But with a guy like Aseki one, hey, size is

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Speaker 2: a skill, right, Size is a skill. It definitely is

555
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Speaker 2: people people like they forget about that. The big quarterback

556
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen can stand in the pocket because he's so

557
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Speaker 2: big and people are grabbing him and all that, and

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Speaker 2: he could still throw it. Why because of his size

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Speaker 2: and the strength. You do that to Kyler Murray's on

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Speaker 2: the ground period. So size is a skill. Goseki is

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Speaker 2: a pass catching guy, right, even when he's covered, he's

562
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Speaker 2: not covered because he's so long and rangy and he

563
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Speaker 2: can do some of that. So that's where I like

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Speaker 2: his game. Let alone for a tight end and who's

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Speaker 2: big and long like he is. When he catches the ball,

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Speaker 2: he can he can go after it makes the place

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Speaker 2: happen that way you're trying to think, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: if you're right, there's nobody on the roster that's real

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Speaker 2: big over the middle.

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Speaker 5: Target with Tyler Tyler contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, so that would be my case for

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Speaker 2: him if you wanted them. It's gonna be more pass

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Speaker 2: game ore ended the run game, though, And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that fits the moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell anybody at home this, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: maybe I will. I'm just gonna pick this college guy, Okay, cool, this,

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Speaker 1: this is it.

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Speaker 5: This is a draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, cam word, okay, stay my case. He's got

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Speaker 2: eleak talent. It's a natural thrower, right, I mean he's

581
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Speaker 2: a guy that I just go. He can pick up

582
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Speaker 2: any object and you go, he can throw it good.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any doubt about that. The power in

584
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Speaker 2: his arm is real, like another guy can spin it

585
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Speaker 2: and throw it through a wind at the meadowlands. Right,

586
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Speaker 2: not a problem. The ability, as we know, so important

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Speaker 2: in the NFL to make some plays off schedule. The

588
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Speaker 2: defenses are too good. The damn defensive linemen are way

589
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Speaker 2: better than the offensive lineman. So there's always pressure. I

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Speaker 2: gotta move. Oh do that. He's gonna be able to

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Speaker 2: do that, you know, not that I've done the deep

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Speaker 2: dive yet. Right, I don't have a problem with his

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Speaker 2: decision making. I've heard this already from some people. Oh

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Speaker 2: it's raw. I don't know if it's decision making or

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Speaker 2: he's just a little greedy at times. Right, he might

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Speaker 2: see a guy over here and go, hey, the five

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Speaker 2: yard throws open. But I think he gets bored with it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he's like, man, screw that there. I know, I

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Speaker 2: got another guy going deep, and then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: well he's not open, and then it's like, oh crap,

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Speaker 2: and then he's got to run around and do some

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Speaker 2: crazy crap. And Caleb Williams had a little that, and

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Speaker 2: that's where NFL coaching will have to kind of rein

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Speaker 2: them in. Right, But Damn. I don't know. I've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of people tell me he's wrong. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he's a first round talent, and he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be in the same stratus here as the guys last year.

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Speaker 2: And I want to just even in my early stages,

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Speaker 2: I just want to throw a challenge flag and be like,

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Speaker 2: are you freaking kidding me? He wouldn't even be in

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Speaker 2: the conversation with him. The guy that you know could

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Speaker 2: have won the Heisman this year must throwing lasers and

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Speaker 2: was like the number one must see TV guy on

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Speaker 2: in college football a lot of weeks like that's my

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Speaker 2: case for cam Ward. Oh you like that case? I

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Speaker 2: do like that Court's adjourned.

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Speaker 1: It did a nice job, even though we can't stand you.

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Speaker 5: Rep good to see you.

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Speaker 1: What's the life like of an NFL insider during the

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Speaker 1: NFL combine?

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Speaker 6: I think there's a couple of different stages today, tomorrow, uh,

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Speaker 6: and then probably the early part of Thursday is a

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Speaker 6: lot of This is a lot of talking to people.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot of tracking down gms and head coaches

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Speaker 6: and coordinators and kind of feeling them out and picking

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Speaker 6: their brain. And you know, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 6: like a ton of news news here. There's some it's

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Speaker 6: like you know, some franchise tag stuff every once in

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Speaker 6: a while or whatever, but like really it's kind of

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Speaker 6: like conversations that set the table for what's.

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Speaker 3: Going to happen for the next three weeks to a month.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of what this is.

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Speaker 6: It's waiting on the podiums, it's grabbing guys off the podium,

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Speaker 6: it's having conversations. All of those things go on, and

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Speaker 6: then you know, once once the drills start, then I

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Speaker 6: think everyone focuses on the drills and kind of hones

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Speaker 6: in on who these prospects are, how they're doing, and

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Speaker 6: why they're important.

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Speaker 1: New leadership team here with the Jets, Aaron Glenn, Darren Mougie,

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Speaker 1: what have your initial impressions been.

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Speaker 3: I would say, you know, obviously, the biggest thing they've done.

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Speaker 6: Was move on from Aaron Rodgers, and you know, I

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Speaker 6: think the way that happened was interesting, right. I mean,

649
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 6: there are plenty of quarterback situations around the league that

650
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 6: are floating in the ether that are sort of quarterback needy.

651
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 6: You have teams that have replaced quarterbacks and still have

652
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: them in the roster, like the Falcons.

653
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Speaker 3: There's a lot.

654
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Speaker 6: What the Jets did was a clean break, was a

655
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 6: like strong, decisive move on. You could argue whether it

656
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 6: was the right thing or the wrong thing, you know.

657
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 6: I would say to me, if you discount maybe like

658
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 6: one or maybe two games at the end of the

659
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: season where Rogers played pretty well, like this seems like

660
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: the obvious choice. This felt always like maybe a two

661
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 6: year proposition for the Jets, and to have a new regime,

662
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 6: to not be saddled with.

663
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: All the Rogers stuff. It's easier to move on.

664
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: It's a little scary because you don't have you don't

665
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 6: have one, you know, But I think it was pretty

666
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 6: clear they were ready to move on, and the way

667
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: they did it was sort of noted, you know.

668
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: So what does the road look like for them as

669
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: we move ahead? With Tyrod Tayler in the building. Jordan

670
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: Travis was a rookie last year. Devastating injury at Florida

671
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: State was a FI list and then you have Adrian Martinez.

672
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: Now people are looking at free agency and the Jets

673
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: draft position at number seven overall.

674
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think what it does now is

675
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 6: is say you're probably gonna add one, you might add two,

676
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 6: and it's all out there. It's all all the options

677
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: are open. It's staying there and taking a quarterback. Maybe

678
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: it's maybe they take a QB three, Maybe they take

679
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart, maybe they take Quinn Yours, maybe take Riley Leonard.

680
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 6: They could move up, certainly they have the draft capital

681
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: for that. If you are, you know, sure that the

682
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 6: franchise quarterback is there, you can move up for one.

683
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: If you if you say, like, all right, this is

684
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 6: the guy we have to have, we have to move up.

685
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: You could go with the sort of Kirk Cousins of

686
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 6: the world and kick the can down the road a

687
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 6: little bit and say, you know, we're gonna find our

688
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: franchise guys just not going to be this year.

689
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna build elsewhere this year.

690
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's a lot of options, and they

691
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: might choose both of them. Yeah, they might take a

692
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: quarterback high. They might sound a veteran. You know, it's

693
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: all it's all out there. I would say for the

694
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 6: Jets and quarterback, A lot.

695
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: Of Jets fans have been acquiring about Justin Fields. What

696
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: do you think the market's gonna look like for him

697
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: come March tenth?

698
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I'm interested in what the Steelers decide

699
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 6: to do because now obviously you know he he's a

700
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 6: free agent, so he could decide too. But you know,

701
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 6: I think it was pretty clear that they would like

702
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: to bring back one of their quarterbacks from last year.

703
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: The way, it's likely it gets done before March tenth.

704
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: One of those two, I.

705
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: Think it's likely it gets done around March tenth. You know,

706
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: like rarely do you have deals happen before free agency.

707
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: Usually they happen in that like, you know, first day,

708
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 6: the tampering window where his agent could be like this

709
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 6: is where we're at, Is.

710
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Anybody gonna come here? Like what's really the market?

711
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: Like?

712
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: So I think we'll know early.

713
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: I just don't know that we'll know, you know, before

714
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: March tenth, because like, as you know, you know, rarely

715
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: do deals free agent deals get done before free agency

716
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: actually opens.

717
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Globally, What does his free agency class look like maybe

718
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: compare to re Ears because the Jets, Darrin Mouci said, Hey,

719
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable where we are from a camp perspective. The

720
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Jets not unlike most teams out there. They got close

721
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: to thirty free agents in all, so a lot of

722
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: internal decisions have to be made before they scour the

723
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: market and then see what they can do out there.

724
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, is it the

725
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 6: most star started free agent class?

726
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: That's they probably not, you.

727
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 6: Know, usually like the guys when people compile all these lists,

728
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: you know, like Greg Rosen those hundred and one top

729
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 6: free Agent lists and NFL dot Com, I mean, you know,

730
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: there are guys up at the top ten, like Josh

731
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 6: Sweat for instance, who most years would be like around

732
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: the middle, not a very top heavy. You know, you

733
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: have some some sort of heavy hitters or whatever, like

734
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold, who's just gonna make a lot of money.

735
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: But guys like Josh Sweat on their third deal, who

736
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 6: had you know, some sacks, but not like a you know,

737
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 6: monstrous year.

738
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: Like it's it's odd that those those guys are the

739
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: top guys.

740
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 6: But if you go to like twenty five to seventy

741
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 6: five get some real good players. So it's probably you know,

742
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 6: more depth in free agency than past, but maybe not

743
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 6: as top heavy.

744
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: So after the draft, I mean after the free agency shooting,

745
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: we got the draft, the Jets sitting there with the

746
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: seventh overall selection, then they come back with the forty

747
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: second selection. What do you think about where their spot

748
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: is right now in the first round.

749
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a good spot.

750
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 6: I mean, you sort of if you're going to take

751
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 6: a quarterback, you can get around to where QB three is.

752
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: Maybe you move up a little bit, maybe you could

753
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 6: try to slide back a little bit. We'll know more

754
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 6: as we get closer. I think it's a totally fine spot.

755
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 6: If you're not going to take a quarterback, I think

756
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 6: it's pretty good because you'll get at least two in

757
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 6: front of you, maybe three. And then it's like, you know,

758
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 6: I think believe they got a franchise left tackle last year. Yeah,

759
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 6: so then it's like, well, if someone takes the LSU tackle, cool,

760
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: like you weren't going to take him anyway, no big deal,

761
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 6: and maybe take a top defensive player whatever. It ends

762
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: up being like you are in reach of an a

763
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 6: week player and so I think that's a pretty good spot.

764
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about the storyline ag coming back

765
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: here to the team that drafted him nineteen ninety four,

766
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: obviously comes back as a scout twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

767
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: One of his primary mentors along the way, Bill park sells,

768
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: what do you think about this journey?

769
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: I'm coming full circle.

770
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing.

771
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 6: And you know, I felt for a while that this

772
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 6: was going to be Aaron Glenn's job. I mean, the

773
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 6: first sort of tweet I had about it when I

774
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: think he was the morning when he was going to

775
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: visit where I was basically like, this is the Jets guy,

776
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 6: Like I think they would like to not let him

777
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: out of the build, and they ended up letting him out,

778
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: but then doing you know, getting it done the next day.

779
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 6: You know, in that tweet was basically like this is

780
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: a guy that all of the Jets legends are rallying around.

781
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 6: And that was real, man, Like it was unbelievable how

782
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 6: excited everybody was, and like it's a cool story. It

783
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 6: really is a cool story. A player was drafted here,

784
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 6: who worked here, was a scout, was what all the

785
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: things coming back to the organization. That is awesome, But

786
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 6: to me, like it's so much more than that, because

787
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: he's ready to be a head coach. He was one

788
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 6: of the best leaders as far as coordinators in the NFL.

789
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 6: He was like the extension. You know, I think Ben

790
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: Johnson is going to do a great job, a great

791
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: play call, but Aaron Gunn was really the guy who

792
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 6: was like the extension of Dan Campbell on the staff.

793
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: You know, he was sort of the leader. So I

794
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 6: mean that's you know, I felt for a while that

795
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 6: Aaron Gunn was ready to be head coach. I felt

796
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 6: when he was going to be a head coach, he'd

797
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: be really good and just I'm happy for him that

798
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 6: ends up being with the Jets, which you know, I

799
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 6: think you guys probably know, like this is where.

800
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: He wanted to be.

801
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how much will that most recent experience in

802
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Denver where they flipped that thing from three thirteen and

803
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: one to a fifteen and two teams Detroit, Yeah, yeah,

804
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: help him as he starts here.

805
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's there's a lot

806
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 6: of lessons to take you know. First of all, I

807
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: mean I remember when you know, Dan Campbell was like

808
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: one and seven and everybody wants to run him out

809
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 6: of there, and they're like we're They're like, our our

810
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: culture is good, like wins will come. And I think,

811
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 6: you know, setting the foundation for like what do we

812
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 6: want a players to play? Like what do you want

813
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 6: it to act? Like?

814
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: You know, like what do we watch for? How much

815
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: do they like football?

816
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 6: Like it takes a while, and I think I'm sure

817
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 6: it'll annoy fans if it takes a year or more.

818
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: You sort of see what's happened in Detroit, Like if

819
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 6: you build it the right way, like.

820
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: This thing will be around for a while.

821
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 6: And you know, I would say too often the Jets

822
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 6: have sort of grasped at quick fixes.

823
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: Obviously most recent machime did I don't know that's going

824
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: to be the case here.

825
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: I think it might take a minute, but you know,

826
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 6: if you do it right, you can build it in

827
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 6: a lasting way.

828
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: Money talks at free agency, But how appealing is a

829
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: guy like Glenn to players out there? If the money

830
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: is comparable the way he talks to players, the way

831
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: he connects. He can tell them that I've been in

832
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: your shoes. I was a first round pick. I played

833
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: in a game fifteen years. I worked my way up

834
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: from an assistant coach, I was a scout.

835
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would say it's meaningful. I don't

836
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 6: know that that's going to make the difference on any

837
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: big time free agent, because like, if you're going for

838
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: fifteen million dollars and another team's offering you thirteen, like

839
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 6: you usually players generally go for the most money.

840
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, But as you.

841
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 6: Get later and as things slow down, that's kind of

842
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 6: when I think it'll make a difference, because then it's

843
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 6: your you know, you're not talking fifteen million, talking like

844
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 6: three or four, and teams are generally around the same price,

845
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 6: and then it's like can you sell it? And like,

846
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 6: as you've probably known, like if you listen to him,

847
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 6: like it's he can be pretty fun, it could be

848
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 6: pretty exciting. He does a great job of making you

849
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 6: feel like what he's telling you is like the most

850
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: important thing, And I do think that will resonate with

851
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 6: free agents.

852
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: What was the reaction around the league to the recent

853
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: salary cap projections for twenty twenty five.

854
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: You know, it's probably a little higher than some thought,

855
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 6: but again, like it's not a you know, superstar studed

856
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 6: free agency, So I don't know if it'll make that

857
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 6: much of a difference. What it might do is, you know,

858
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 6: cause some teams to do some extensions early, like the

859
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: Bills ocked up Khali Shakir right earlier today, you know,

860
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: more like just spend the money in other ways, whereas

861
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 6: maybe the free agent class doesn't warrant it quite as much.

862
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Out of the week here, what what are you going

863
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: to be most looking forward to? What are we going

864
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: to find out here in Indianapolis this week?

865
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 6: I'd like to find out, you know, who's QB three

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Speaker 6: in the draft?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to find out where these quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 6: and where kind of where do the dominoes go? And

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Speaker 6: there's as always the world of ovs are on quarterback

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Speaker 6: news and you know, hope to get some this week.

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Speaker 1: Six quarterbacks top twelve picks last year, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to see a repeated that do you think that think?

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Speaker 1: Is that to day next April we're going to have

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Speaker 1: three in the first round though?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, three in the first round. Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think we'll get three.

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Speaker 6: I think we'll get three, maybe four, maybe more, you know,

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Speaker 6: And that's that's what happens, is like you get to

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Speaker 6: know these guys and you fall in love with them,

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Speaker 6: and you know they really do sort of rise, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Rep.

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Speaker 5: Sheet appreciate it as always.

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Speaker 3: Man all right, good being on with you, man, take care,