1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes when we go live on Amazon AM, I like 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: to just wait a couple of seconds before I start talking, 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: just to stress Jackson out, Just so Jackson's sitting there. 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: Like people are thinking it's broken. Someone has to start talking. 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: We are welcome to Jenkins and Jones. We are live on. 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, April fifth, as always Jenkus and Jones, hosted 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: by Dragonfly Jones, the Jethro Jenkins, myself, Mike, and today 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: we are joined at the top of the show by 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: our our besties, the grid Iron gals. Rita and Chelse 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: are here. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Thanks with us, Yes, thanks, thank you. 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Hey, cousin. 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Hold all right, well, you guys actually hit us up 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: and we're like, please let us talk about Angela Clark 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: and we could not be happier to have you on 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: to talk about that. Chelsea's got angel Reese's the zoom background. 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: We're all ready to go. That's right. 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: So how excited are you guys to see l s 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: U and Iowa together in a friendship circle at the 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: White House? 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: You know, let me tell you something. 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 5: Besides, I mean, we already know how angel Rees feels 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: about that. She said, you know what a joke, but 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: don't think for one second that Kim is going up 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: there to that White House with another team. Don't think 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 5: for one second. 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 6: Anyway there's another guy was the president, then she would 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 6: be going. 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: But that guy is an indictment. 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: And troubles in that motherfucker, Kim will be there with 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: bells on literally literallyware she would literally have bells mother 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: to go to that White House. 34 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was just you know, and I'm a 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: Joe Biden fan. I think that she was just you know, 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: being a kombay y'all white lady. I think she was like, oh, 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 5: it's so much trauma, there's so much drama around this. 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: Let me see if I can make it a peacemakers, ma'am, 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: this is sports. I don't even know if your husband 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: would have been cool with that, because you know how 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: Joe does. I mean, you know, you let him off 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 5: his reins and he might say anything to you. So 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: I was just like, y'all, we don't need to do this. 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: The champions need to go to the White House like 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: it's always been. We don't need to do something different 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: now because everybody is all in their feelings about it 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: and think that they have to stand up and protect 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark, who has made it clear that she doesn't 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 5: need to be protected exactly, so what we're doing here, Look. 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 6: I agree, and I'm glad Caitlyn Clark came out and said, 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 6: you know, I winners should go to the White House, 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 6: because she's right, Like, I don't hear any other runner 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: up being invited to go to the White House. 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: That makes no sense to me. 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 6: I'm glad somebody has enough sense to say that that 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 6: from the opposing team, because what I would have hated, though, 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 6: is to see Iowa even just say let's just do 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 6: it just because and ruin the moment. So forget about 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 6: all this angel reefs talk about ruining the moment, which 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 6: isn't true. It's just something that you guys made up. 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: But really ruining a moment is allowing the runner up 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 6: of a team go to the White House with the 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 6: winners and creating a controversy that honestly just isn't necessary. 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 6: But ultimately, I'm glad she said it out loud because 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 6: they don't deserve to be there. If they win, they 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 6: deserve to be there. They lost big time. 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: They lost. Get your ass down. 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 6: Thank you Joe Biden for trying to be nice, but 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 6: maybe you're not a sports lady because you clear it 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 6: on understand how this goes. Okay, Winners sit over here, 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 6: Losers sit over here. Okay, they don't sit together, and 72 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 6: so you don't sut your ass down. 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 5: I don't know about her not being a sports lady, 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: because she is an Eagles fan and she sure ain't 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: had no problems with all of her Eagles gear on 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 5: and stuff. And if the Eagles won the Super Bowl 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: and they say, oh, okay, well y'all can go to 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: the White House, she would have been like, what, so, girl, please. 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 6: Here's and there's It's very possible that the aspect of 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 6: it being women's sports looks different to her as well, 81 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: because men's sports obviously gets, you know, all of the attention, right, 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: But now this is something that's relatable to her. She's 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 6: a woman, right, and so now for her she feels 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 6: like the competition and the level of competition is different. 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 6: It's very possible so she saw it as well. They're 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: all winners to me because they all played very well 87 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 6: when as like you mentioned Chell's, if this was the Eagles, 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 6: you wouldn't have been saying that shit. 89 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 7: So I got a question. I got a question for y'all. 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 7: If ls you were to have lost, would she beat 91 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 7: the senior? I doubt white lady. If andrewe was on 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 7: the losing end and it was Caitlin over there tapping 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 7: the ring or doing the you know you can't see 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 7: me shit, So I think, y'all, what what? What would 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 7: y'all feel? Do you think she would have still had 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 7: that same stance? 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, I do not think so. 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: She was being a white lady. That's what she was, 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: being a white lady. 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: She was being a well meaning white lady. We know 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: how the liberals are. She was being a well meaning 102 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: white lady. And she was thinking about the white girl. 103 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: And she was not thinking about a team full of 104 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: black girls. She is not at all thinking about them. 105 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 5: She was like, how can I make this this team 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: of people feel better in this big controversy. They would 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 5: have been fine if they had scored more points in one. 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: Yep. 109 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: Right now we're. 110 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 6: Having a different controversy, which I'm glad. Actually we're away 111 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 6: from the original controversy because to me, there is none 112 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: right which people talk shit, that's what they do. 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 7: And Angela she loses next year, she's gonna have to 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 7: deal with the same consequences. It sart you feel me, 115 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 7: and she won't be trying about it. She ready to 116 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 7: was saying, that's part of the game. 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 118 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 6: And you know what it is that she already got 119 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 6: her mind made up with some ship she fitnt do. 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Come next, she's gonna drop fifty. She's gonna drop fifty. 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: You feel me, Carolina, so that you look, she knows 122 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: how worse this is going to get. 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 6: This is probably to feel her and to be like 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: a Tasmanian double white lady out there. 125 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 7: It was two bullies. It was two bullies out there 127 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 7: playing basketball. Bro, you know what I'm saying. 128 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: And absolutely, and that's what Rita and I were watching together. 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 5: We were out at brunch and watching watching it together 130 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 5: and listen, I'm gonna tell you something now. I didn't 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 5: know how this brunch was gonna be set up, so 132 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 5: I brought my iPad to watch the game. But luckily 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 5: we were able to face the TVs because it was 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 5: it was. It was that serious for me. But you 135 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: know every time that that's what I call a white lady. 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 5: Steph Curry. How many three is y'all gonna let her shoot? 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: In your eyeballs. Oh no, just hit her with the 138 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 5: basketball like you can't guart her hit up with the 139 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 5: basketball like she was amazing out there. I have never 140 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: seen anything like that, especially with women's sports. But like 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: the only thing I can think of to compare Caitlyn 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: to is Steph Steph Curry. And I was like, is 143 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: somebody gonna do something about that? But somebody did? 144 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: You know? 145 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 5: And and and you know she I mean, you know, 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 5: I think that they were like the whole team allied 147 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: on her and they got dealt with, Like I think 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: Mike Greenberg said, they ran into a buzz saw. 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: That's the perfect way to be feeling. 150 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: And she still looks. She still put up thirty points. 151 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: So it wasn't like she was stoppable, but that that 152 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 6: big girl getting. 153 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: Filed out. 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Right right right right. 155 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: Hey man, that's where the game was over. 156 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 6: And I was like, and she was at four to 157 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 6: Caitlin herself, so she was so she was pushing it. 158 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: She was pushing herself to the limit. But look, that 159 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 6: lady is going to be unstoppable. 160 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah. 161 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: And she doesn't need she looks she ain't in no 162 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 6: rush to go to the w n B A because honestly, 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 6: why would you be in a rush to do that? 164 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: She can probably make more money on the college level. 165 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 6: She ain't flying the same class fights me, you, and 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 6: everybody else like college. But she look, she can hang 167 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 6: out for as long as she wants to until it's 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: time for them to push her out and be like, 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 6: all right, you got to go to the w n 170 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 6: b A. Now you've maxed out your eligibility. 171 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: Ma'am, you're thirty getting. 172 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: I want to go back to you know, when you 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that you know Joe Biden, she's an Eagles fan. 174 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, she wouldn't have invited the loser Eagles to 175 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: the to the White House because I feel like that 176 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: is an interesting wrinkle here where there's a lot of 177 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: There was a lot of unnecessary coddling here because I 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: think that, you know, people feel that women have to 179 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: be coddled, you know, and I don't agree with that. 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I think athletes are athletes are athletes. You know, Angelis 181 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: has said the same, Caitlyn Clark has said the same, 182 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: damn thing, like, you do not need to, you know, 183 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: throw on your fucking caps for us. We're athletes first 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: and foremost. You know, you don't need to do to 185 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: do this whole you know, white Knight Savior bullshit for us, 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: you know. So, so that's something that that I think, 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, added a wrinkle here because truth be told, 188 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: the American public, we're not this is this was this 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: was probably the biggest moment in women's college basketball ever 190 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: for us, right, this is this is uncharted territory for 191 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans. I feel like a lot of 192 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: Americans are gonna have to unlearn some shit with with 193 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: how they view women here, especially how they view one 194 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: woman athletes here. And you know, it's like I said, 195 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: it's it's uncharted territory because this country does not did 196 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: not get behind women's sports, you know, in a way 197 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: that we saw until that game. 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 6: That's an even funnier part too, guys, right, like how 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 6: much of y'all really cared about this tournament? And did 200 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 6: you just care in that moment? 201 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Right? 202 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: That's the part that irritates me, the fake outrage. But 203 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 204 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 6: Too, Tyler, Like, look, angel is she a Baltimore girl. 205 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 6: She said, she said that's where when she's from. When 206 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 6: she talked shit, she's not wrong. She went to Saint 207 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: Francis Academy, one of the top schools in the country 208 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 6: in football, a growing school in basketball. So she's used 209 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 6: to culturally being around winners. That is something she's used to. 210 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 6: She's used to the guys talking shit. You know why, 211 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 6: because Saint Francis can back it up. They're that good. 212 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 6: They can play that well amongst anybody. So she's adapted 213 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 6: that culture. And then also she's from a shit talking 214 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 6: city like most Black cities, though it ain't, you know, 215 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 6: limited to Baltimore. 216 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: That's most black city you're from, saying knows, John. 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: Y'all talk a lot of shit too, big fact, big 218 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 7: fat foundationally, absolutely right. 219 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 6: We all know people that talk shit because that's culturally 220 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 6: what we do when we play sports. We can play spade, 221 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 6: were throwing that motherfucker. 222 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: Break over spades, Domino's big wist. It's it's all the 223 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: trash talking, all the ship talking. So you know, but 224 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: I do think that the part when I when I 225 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: hear like when I talk to like my dad about it, 226 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: it was always very funny, but he was just like, 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 5: what are we talking about here? He said, We sit 228 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 5: up there and watch the NBA and they trash talk 229 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 5: all day long, all the time. He was like, how 230 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: many times did Steph Curry do the little sleep in 231 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: motion with somebody? And I was like, for some reason, 232 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: seeing it from women is you know, it's making people 233 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: feel some kind of wait, especially saying it from black women. 234 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: And I think that what happened with this game is 235 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 5: that we saw Iowa beat the champions right, and it 236 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 5: was a great game, but Caitlyn was the draw. So 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: Caitlyn was all everybody talked about for the next forty 238 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 5: eight hours, and she's the draw for this championship game 239 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 5: because we now, we want to see what Caitlyn can do, 240 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 5: and we saw what Caitlyn can do, but we also 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: saw what else you could do. And I think that 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 5: people were disappointed. They thought that there was going to 243 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: be this the end of this fairytale was going to 244 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 5: be Caitlyn Carr getting the national championship, and it didn't 245 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: go that way. So I think they were mad about 246 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: not going that way. And then you add in the 247 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: perceived cocky class list all of these things that are 248 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: coming from young black women that are balling out of control, so. 249 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: It short circuited everyone's brains. The results of the gate 250 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: right like it was actually as someone who is removed 251 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: from it and knew that Angel is going to be fine. 252 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: Followed Kaitlyn Clark enough to know that she was totally 253 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: fine with shit talk and understands that it was kind 254 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: of fun to step back and be like, this is 255 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: a uniquely American brain haywire moment. We already as a country, 256 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: as you guys have been talking about, cannot handle women 257 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: being competitive and aggressive and talking shit. Already is a 258 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: country cannot handle seeing black people and white people in 259 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: conflict of any kind without everyone freaking the fuck out. 260 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: And you had all this stuff happening in one moment 261 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: with like ten million people watching a women's basketball championship, 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: and I remember just logging it to Twitter about an 263 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: hour later, and it was like twenty ten. It was 264 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: like this place is on fucking fire right now, Like 265 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: people kick the windows out, the mattresses are up against 266 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: a wall for no reason, someone's nailing bores over the doors, 267 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: Like what the fuck is it happening right now? But 268 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: that's but like we said it on the show right after, 269 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: I think it's the best thing that could happen for 270 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: women's basketball, you know, like you heard. 271 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: That inject I can't wait next season. What have you 272 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: ever been made? Season? Never? Never? 273 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 5: I'm just like, how long we gotta wait till we 274 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 5: can do this again? 275 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: I know it? 276 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: And for it to be more competitive. Well, March Madness 277 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 6: was fantastic. I don't want to take that away, but 278 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 6: like as we got down the stretch, you know that 279 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 6: that national championship was such a snooze, you know what 280 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 6: I mean? It was so boring and so to come 281 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 6: from the day before where you know, everybody was watching 282 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 6: it and being invested in something you know, to me 283 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 6: says that they belong with the big boys, you know, 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 6: because we know that they don't use the term March 285 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 6: Madness for women's basketball. 286 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: They said it was going to hurt the brand. What 287 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: are you gonna say now? 288 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: They drew nine point nine million people at one point 289 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: twelve million people? Was the high Bigger than the Rose Bowl, 290 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 6: Bigger than a lot of. 291 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: A couple of NFL, NBA finals, right, you know, the finals, 292 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: a few. 293 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 6: Quite a few NBA basketball games on top of that. 294 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: So what are y'all want to say now? Because now 295 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: people are watching. Now, people have names, they they can 296 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: they can pick and choose players that they wanted to 297 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 6: support and cheer for y'all had no more excuses, y'all. 298 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 6: Obviously the competitiveness is all the way live. Y'all ain't 299 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: got no more excuses. Now, you absolutely have to respect 300 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 6: women's basketball at the same point. 301 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: And I don't know if y'all watched the men's game, 302 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 5: but listen, get that on. 303 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: A quit at halftime, I went to watch Time Seeking 304 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 4: Brother White. Bad. That was just bad. But it was 305 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: better for that game. 306 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: It was less predictive least, it was less predictable least 307 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: right exactly. 308 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 7: I think one thing too, is they didn't know Angel 309 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 7: Rees was a doll. Like she had a thirty six 310 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 7: and twenty game. She averaged like twenty three and fifteen, 311 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 7: my nigga, Like you know what I mean, Like she 312 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 7: was talking shit in Maryland before she even came there. 313 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 7: LISU took Kaitlyn Clark, they pulled the receipts, you know 314 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So they think this is this is 315 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 7: a nobody because they haven't been watching the games. They 316 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 7: haven't watched you know, LSU games. They just thought Caitlyn 317 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 7: wasn't one, you know what I mean. No, there's a 318 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: bunch of dogs in there. Angels one of them, and 319 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: she's been here since she walked into a college onto 320 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 7: a college court, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, 321 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 7: so I mean, but yeah, like y'all were saying, bro, Like, 322 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 7: the competitiveness was great, I love the shit talking. 323 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: The energy was in credible. 324 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 7: It was so much better than the men's tournament, and 325 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 7: not just the championship game, the tournament. 326 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: As a whole thing. I was like, do men play 327 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: basketball college basketball? 328 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 7: I'm not even paying it, I'm not paying no attention 329 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 7: to this shit because what's going on over here is 330 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 7: so so so much better, you know what I'm saying. 331 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: And the quality of basketball was better too, you feel me. 332 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 7: I even feel like how they play with like a 333 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 7: Kaitlin Clark shooting the deep ball and all that they 334 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: have transition to the new to way to way basketball 335 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 7: is played better than the men's college game, you know 336 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like, the women's college basketball game looks 337 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 7: closer to the NBA than the men's college basketball game 338 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 7: as far as in quality, you know what I'm saying. 339 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, I heard someone else say that, John. I 340 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 5: heard someone say that on Twitter that it did look 341 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: way more skilled the women's game looked way more skilled. 342 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean, there was. 343 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: One point when I was in South Carolina game, I say, 344 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: the South Carolina look like the Spurs out there, the 345 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 5: way they're passing that ball around. 346 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: Feel me pop pop pope defense. I think there's a 347 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: couple of factors. 348 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Number one, the talent is definitely still you know, there's 349 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: not as much parody in women's basketball, right, so you 350 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: do truly have sort of like the NBA when there's 351 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: eight teams, you have like true sort of superstar collections 352 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: of talent. But then also, and this is what I 353 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: wanted to ask all of you guys about John, including you, 354 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: is there's not a pull into the w n B 355 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: A you have these superstar players, you know, Angel reached, 356 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark having these big moments, and you know, I 357 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: mean John did an interview with Angel before the championship game. 358 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: She's like, they're not even thinking about the w NBA. 359 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: They may they're catching more money with a higher quality 360 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: of life in college and so, but but as a result, 361 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a poor statement on the 362 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: w NBA. But it's great for college basketball because they're 363 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: there for three four years and their teammates for three 364 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: four years now, the portal is changing some of the 365 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: like everyone plays together for four years stuff. But I 366 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: do think that that's led to where again, like it's April, 367 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: we're sitting here and we can go. I can't wait 368 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: six months from now for women's basketball to start up 369 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: because I know who the teams are, I know who 370 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: the players are. 371 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be rooting for them. 372 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: But but it is on the on the same token, 373 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: it's not a great look for the w n b 374 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: A when you know these athletes. You're telling John like, nah, 375 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: that's not even a cause, Like John asked, just the 376 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: way you would expect, like you're really, really good? Are 377 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: you gonna be turning pro? And she almost was like 378 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: you know. 379 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: What I mean? 380 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 381 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 7: At me, Like, bro, the bread is over here, and 382 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 7: I got an extra COVID year, I might fuck around with. 383 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: That, you know what I'm saying. 384 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 7: And also like the like, bro, there are people drafted 385 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 7: in the top ten who get way from WNBA rosters 386 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 7: because it's that competitive. 387 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: Those rosters are so fucking competitive, and I don't think 388 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: Alice is one of those. 389 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 7: She's incredibly talented, she'll make the roster, but It's like, 390 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 7: why why am I gonna go compete like this for 391 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 7: playtime when I'm more market making more bread. 392 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. 393 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 4: And she agreed with you too, Josh. She admitted that 394 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: like she doesn't. 395 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: Feel like she's ready to take the next step, that 396 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 6: she wanted to get some work done, that when she 397 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 6: moved to the w NBA, she didn't feel like that 398 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 6: she would be as domin it as she is now. 399 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: But ultimately she does. Like you said, she doesn't have 400 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 6: to leave. She's making somewhere near a million dollars, I 401 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 6: believe from your money, and she's not. And what did 402 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: I say earlier? Dan's flying regular class Southwest like me 403 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 6: and you and everybody else. 404 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: Have screens in the back of the seat on the 405 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: flights that they're exactly so. 406 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: They are living the life. 407 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 6: And she's instill in a college culture which allows her 408 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 6: to be a young adult and not grow up and 409 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: be somebody that she's not ready to be yet, which 410 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 6: is responsible. I am not mad at that whatsoever. If 411 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: I could turn twenty years back and get an extra 412 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 6: year eligibility of being an adult before I have to 413 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 6: be adult, I absolutely. 414 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 5: Would absolutely mad me graduating from college at twenty two 415 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 5: thinking I knew something, Please put me back here. 416 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: I know nothing, Oh. 417 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: God, I thought, please collegation because you got all the 418 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: freedom of an adult and none of the responsibility of 419 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: an adult. 420 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: And right right, right, right right, And it's so she 421 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 5: she still has I mean like technically she's eligibility wise, 422 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 5: she's a sophomore. Yeah so, and because of that, Kobe 423 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 5: is so she still has some she got time, so like. 424 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: It's not to be fun. 425 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 7: And then look at like the professional career of a 426 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 7: woman like you spend three months here in wn b 427 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: A and then you're overseas. She's talking about LSU was 428 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 7: far from family and she misses her family being in 429 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 7: bad rules. Imagine being across the you know, across the globe, 430 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 7: because that's where your real bag is at. 431 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 432 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 7: Fuck that, I'm staying LSU making more money. You know 433 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 7: what I mean, being a student. You feel me? 434 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah. 435 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: And w NBA has something to think about. And I 436 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: don't know how much control they have, but I think 437 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: they got more than what they letting on. But y'all 438 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: have to step this up because you're you know, people 439 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 5: are going. You want to see the product of the 440 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: women's college basketball. You want to see that transition into 441 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: a great, even better product with the w n b A, 442 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 5: And you got to make that work. You got to 443 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 5: make it worth their while. Right now that it's not 444 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: worth it while and they're staying they're staying in school. 445 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 5: And I like the fact that they're staying in school. 446 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 5: Like if you have an opportunity to play under the 447 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 5: tutelage of Don Staley for five years, of course you 448 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: take it. 449 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: What You're a better human each of that, you know 450 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: what I mean? Right? Yeah? 451 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 5: And I mean you saw how Aliah Boston was in 452 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: tears talking about Don Staley, like how much she means 453 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: to her. She's like a mother to her, Like, you know, 454 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 5: but Don has done it all, you know, so like 455 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: you know, of course you want to stay there for 456 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 5: a few more years there, but you can't stay there forever. 457 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: And what does that mean when when they go on, 458 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: you know, they should have the opportunity to cash that check, 459 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: just like the guys do. 460 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: Yep. 461 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, something something that jumped out to me when 462 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I was watching that game was I was like, I'm 463 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: watching this game as a fan of college basketball right now, 464 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: and I felt like I hadn't watched men's hoops like that, 465 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and Moore, I think so many of us now when 466 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: we watch men's college shops, we are watching it as scouts. 467 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: We are watching it to see how good these prospects 468 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: are going to be in the NBA. And that was 469 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: not the lens that I was watching this game. Do 470 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: like like you, when you watch women's college ball, you 471 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: just get fully immersed in women's college ball. You're not 472 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: thinking of the pros, how good is this prospect gonna 473 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: be in the league, Like you're just fully lost in 474 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: that moment. And I think that's something that works, you know, 475 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: extremely well to their benefit there. Absolutely, I do think. 476 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: This follows him into the league too, just follows him 477 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 7: into the league too. Like Tyler, you talked, We talked 478 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 7: about this. We will never root against Andreuries a day 479 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 7: in our fucking life. Fuck you mean, bro, you know 480 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 7: everybody for L s U. 481 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: This is me. 482 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: Do you know how unknowingly Gators and ls you hate 483 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: each other too. And guess what, I'm a roof FORUL. 484 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna always root the whole team. I'm always going 485 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: to root for the black girl with that. 486 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: See. 487 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: But but you guys hit on it exactly. And that's 488 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: where I hope Tyler is right. But the w n 489 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: b A could still very easily fuck this up and 490 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: they need to. They need to not because they have 491 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: a head start here. We just said that these girls 492 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: aren't coming out into the draft next month. You have 493 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: a year or two to get your ship together. But 494 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: like the year that I covered, the year I covered 495 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: the Sparks, Candice Parker really opened my eyes because I 496 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: didn't understand. I just it's like there's a WNBA, there's 497 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: NBA in the WNBA. WNBA is newer, that'll make as 498 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: much money, the audience isn't as big. I like it, 499 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: I you know, cover and enjoy women's and girls basketball. 500 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: But that was sort of the paradigm I thought, and 501 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: Kndas Parker explained, like, you know, I'm out there covering 502 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: the first game of the season. I'm like, where's all 503 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: the people I've heard of? You know, And the coach 504 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: is going, well, they're still in Russia and fucking and 505 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: Germany and Turkey and shit because they're because they're in 506 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs and that's their day job. So Candas Parker 507 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: gets in and you know, it comes in and I'm 508 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: asking about that. I didn't realize that you guys were 509 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: all playing overseas. And she's like, the entire league is 510 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: playing overseas, right, and so if you're in the playoffs, 511 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: it runs into the start of the WNBA season. She said, Look, 512 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm capped here. There's a max player cap at two 513 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You could be the face 514 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: of the league, you could be whatever, it doesn't matter 515 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So these players literally 516 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: are making more money the top players in college, than 517 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: they're even allowed to in the WNBA. And so Candas says, 518 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: she's like, all of the players you see here, the 519 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: elite players are almost like donating a portion of their 520 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: time and volunteering to be here because they're trying to 521 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: support the growth of the sport in this country. You know, 522 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: they're trying to support the league. You want a WNBA 523 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: to be there to dream about. Girls aren't dreaming of 524 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: playing in Slovakia when they're fourteen years old. You want 525 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: um dreaming about playing in arenas in their country, right. 526 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: But like, I didn't realize, you know, until I was 527 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: really in there, how truly unequal it was, and the 528 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: WNBA like, you can't say this is an audience or 529 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: a money issue when you look at the reaction to 530 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: these two girls, and I don't care if it's basketball 531 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: or boxing or Battle of the Sexes with tennis. 532 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: With fifty million people watch. 533 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: If you have conflict between genders or races in this 534 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: country and you can't figure out a way to sell 535 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: that shit and make money off it, you're the stupidest 536 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: motherfucker on her period. 537 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Easy money back, Damn. 538 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 6: I wonder how much the you know, the CDA came out, 539 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 6: the new CBA between and the NBA and the players 540 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 6: came out, and one of the things I believe that 541 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: they were able to do is invest in w NBA 542 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 6: teams the players. So I am curious to know if 543 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 6: that will help jump start something going on because now 544 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 6: people have financial vested interests in w NBA, which means 545 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: that they're going to want their product to be profitable, right, 546 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: So that is something that when I heard that, I 547 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 6: was like, I'm kind of interested in that because I 548 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 6: do think that they could use as much backing as 549 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 6: they could, and obviously it helps to get the backing 550 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 6: from their big brother. But I'm curious to know in 551 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 6: terms of you know who invests, you know how that's 552 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 6: going to propel what I would like to think propel 553 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 6: the w n b A and to moving into a 554 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 6: better direction because the talent is there, obviously, and it's 555 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 6: not like that they're watching WNBA games are boring. 556 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: It's just something that's missing and somebody has. 557 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: To help, doesn't It doesn't have the billboard side the store. 558 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: No one's going Liberty Sparks. I can fuck you know 559 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, you don't have that. And that's 560 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: what this this college season for the women invested people 561 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: in that different way. All those stupid conversations Keith Oberman, 562 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: everyone being idiots after the game. That's the best thing 563 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: that can happen for women's basketball because now I'm mad 564 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: about it at them, and they're mad about it about 565 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: Angelies and like, okay, let's talk shit next year, right. 566 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: But I totally agree with you. 567 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: The games are great, but it is not put up 568 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: there in that way where you're like, if the Links 569 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: win the title this year, I'm gonna fucking barf in 570 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: my backyard. 571 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: Need rock we need some of the rock stone cold. 572 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: Yes, we need some wwe introns. 573 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: All right. All right, guys, thank you so much for 574 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: hopping on with us. Really appreciate it. 575 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: As always everyone subscribing the Gridiron gals, and uh it 576 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: was a nice having you guys on to talk about 577 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: something other than football. 578 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: It was good. John was much more knowledgeable you know 579 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, we ain't tap in whenever though, feel me. 580 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We need y'all long more. 581 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: Day about who why I think n is now on the. 582 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: M v P. 583 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about who are your guys NBA teams? 584 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: I do not have one. I have players. 585 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: Who's your players? 586 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's that's that's right there, that's the 587 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: who's your who's your players? 588 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 4: I love the most petty player of the planet, Kevin Durant. 589 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: I love him. 590 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 6: I don't care what you're saying about that boy Can 591 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 6: who he could be as sensitive and is his head, 592 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 6: could be as nappy as he wanted to be. 593 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: That boy Can. I don't give a damn. 594 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: Big fat I'm I'm I'm riding with Steph Curry from 595 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 5: the his whole His mother is a wholesome woman from Virginia. 596 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: Like myself. 597 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 8: Light. 598 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: I tell you there is when you talk about trash talk, 599 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: there is no bigger asshole in the NDIA I love. 600 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 7: And that's his big that's his best characteristic and people 601 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 7: his fans run away from it, which is weird. 602 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: Nigga, This nice little choir Christian boy, that dude, that's 603 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 5: what they want. 604 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 7: Him to be a team and that's what makes him 605 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: so much fun to watch. 606 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: Bro. You know what I'm saying. I love that all If. 607 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: We get that h that warrior Son's first round that 608 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: it looks like we might have we got to have 609 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: you on one of the live shows, y. 610 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: For sure. All right, j'all thanks again for hopping on. 611 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. 612 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate you all many family. 613 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: Bye. That was great. Thanks. Thanks always always great when 614 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: they hop on, Jackson. 615 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: Do we have anyone in the chat with anything for 616 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: us before we move on to the other segments today. 617 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 8: We had someone just said, I just want to know 618 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 8: how them Fibri Hill has been cheating Mike. 619 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: That's listen to me. 620 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: I guess I told you all this. I get so 621 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: many people talking to me about their poop on Twitter 622 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: at this point, is. 623 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: It's out rapist the way. 624 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: God, look, I've been I've been on the fiber pillars 625 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: for like two years now, so I like, like I 626 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: told John and Tyler and my wife and everyone else, 627 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: I wipe just for shits, not even for shit, just 628 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: for giggles, for no shits. 629 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: So they're great for me. 630 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: Man. 631 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I went and uh and and my 632 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: wife and I ran a five K last weekend. I 633 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: got up early, took my poop, felt good. Five years 634 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: ago I ran a five K close call, couldn't go 635 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: to the bathroom that early, just really white knuckling it 636 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: down the last couple thousand meters, you know. 637 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 3: So it's I highly recommend it. 638 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: I've heard from like literally probably one hundred people about 639 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: the differences making in their life. 640 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: So salute happy for everybody's maker. No, I think that's incredible. Actually, 641 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that's incredible legacy, healthier poops. 642 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Tyler had an awesome tweet yesterday. 643 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk. 644 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: About about Luca and really all international athletes coming to 645 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: America and UH and just not knowing the stupid games 646 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: that we play in this country. Someone asked Luca basically 647 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: about why you know about his defense. You know, we 648 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: talked about it on the last show, like that defensive 649 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: rating is a great predictor of playoff success, Luca yogat joker. 650 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: You know, I mean that's not necessarily the strong suit. 651 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: And Luca basically said he's like, yeah, man, it's a 652 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: lot of basketball games and I'm doing euro Basket in between, 653 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: and I'm. 654 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: Tired, Like I don't I don't have the enough sixty. 655 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if I need to be playing the. 656 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: One needs to drop sixty on this end of the court, 657 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: but it might not need to be the same person. 658 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: And I tinly just. 659 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: Made a point like people come to America and it's 660 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: like we have such a weird first of all, like 661 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: cultural identity around work and then also around media narratives 662 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: that it's like the honesty. I mean, it's the same 663 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: thing with Yannis too, right. It just it almost like 664 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: sticks out like hangnail or something. It's just weird to 665 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: hear someone answer the question with like, yeah, I'm not 666 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: trying very hard on defense. 667 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: I loved it, okay, right, So you know, I want 668 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: to be clear and upfront that what I'm about to say, 669 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: it's it's not an indictment. It's not a criticism, it's 670 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: an observation because I love the honesty that Lucas showed 671 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: us here and I wish we had more of it. 672 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: That quote by Luga, it was interesting to me. And 673 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: the main thing, you know, the interest in me, like 674 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: we discussed, is how being this honest seems to be 675 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: a trend with foreign athletes. 676 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: Right. 677 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: So, you know, because in this quote, Luca didn't really 678 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: tell us anything we didn't already know, right. You know, 679 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: energy is a finite resource, and when you're a high 680 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: usage offensive player like Luca, you cannot exert that type 681 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: of effort on both ends. We all know this, it's 682 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: nothing new, but I just don't know if we've ever 683 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: seen a player just flat out come out and say that. Right, 684 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, being this open, being 685 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: this honest, it seems to be way more common with 686 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: foreign players than it is with American players in the NBA. 687 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, you see, you take a look at guys 688 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: like Luca, Yannis, yoke Embid, they are all straight shooters. 689 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: You know, we all remember how Yannis got killed, you know, 690 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: for saying that that KD was better than him during 691 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brooklyn series. I remember when when when it 692 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: Embiid was asked, you know, what do you think about 693 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: the six or Celtics robbery and it b was like, Bro, 694 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: this shit ain't a robbery. They beat our ass every time, 695 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And the beach just recently 696 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: kicked up so some dust when he was like, yes, 697 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I absolutely want MVP and these advanced stats that are 698 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: telling you that these guys are good on defense, they're 699 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: lying to you, which was a direct shot at Yokic, right, 700 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: and we saw Yokic also say that he doesn't even 701 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: care about winning MVP anymore because all the noise around it, 702 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: and it would be so rare to get that type 703 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: of honesty from American players, like, you know, especially around 704 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: something like the MVP award. If you asked an American 705 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: player how they felt about being in the MVP race, 706 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get that cliche ass. You know, this is 707 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: a great you know, that's a great distinction that puts 708 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: you up there with the legends. But I'm just focusing 709 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: and going about this game by game, just trying to 710 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: win it win with my guys. Every time I lays 711 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: them up, right, you'd get that cookie cutter win one 712 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: for the gibber bullshit. 713 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: And I think. 714 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: That that foreign players they seem to be more candid 715 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: and honest with us because they are not indoctrinated with 716 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: the American ideals of what competitiveness should look like. And 717 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: good for them, because I think a lot of American 718 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: ideals of what being a competitor looks like are bullshit. 719 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: Like perhaps the foundation of the American ideal of what 720 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: being a competitor looks like it's based on you need 721 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: to be better than the next guy. And it seems 722 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: like the foreign guys who have not been indoctrinated with 723 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: with that American shit, it's like they focus their focus 724 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: seems to be on being the best they personally can be. 725 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's the distinction there, you know, Like 726 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: we saw recently Yanna say, Yo, I'm not a skilled 727 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: as Steph for KD, but I'm gonna work my ass 728 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: off to be the best that I can be. And 729 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: that's a great outlook to have. But I feel like 730 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: that's not good enough for Americans. We're results oriented. We've 731 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: all seen the anti participation trophy movement in this country. 732 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: It's not good enough for Americans. To be your best, 733 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: you need to be better than the next man. And 734 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, a lot of American ideas 735 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: or what being a competitor are bullshit to me, and 736 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I think that is for sure one of them. I'm 737 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: a firm believer of running your own race at your 738 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: own speed. A mantra or is we repeat to myself 739 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: to stay ground. It is the race is long, and 740 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: it's not with anyone but yourself, right, Like That's something 741 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I've been holding it in my heart for years, and 742 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: that shit gives me perspective, you know, whenever her mamaself? 743 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: Who told me? 744 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: Who told you that? Who told you that? First? 745 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: I got it from that that song where sunscreen? You 746 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: remember that shit? Where it was it was? 747 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: It was. 748 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: It was just a dude just talking, just giving advice. 749 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: It was like a graduation speech that they put on 750 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: on a beat. You remember that shit, Like here to 751 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: the graduating class of nineteen ninety nine, If I want 752 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: to thing of advice for you would be to wear 753 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: sunscreen that has been medically proven. The rest is just 754 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: my advice. You remember that shit? 755 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: I don't think I heard that now I gotta dropped that. 756 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll drop that in the group chat. 757 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: But you know, going back to what I said about 758 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: how I feel like a lot of American ideas of 759 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: being a competitor or a bullshit that's that is one 760 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: that sticks out to me, you know, it seems and 761 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, the mentality of a lot 762 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: of foreign and player that a lot of foreign players 763 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: embrace is is yo, I'm trying to be the best 764 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: that I can be. Fuck everybody else. And I think 765 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of us can learn from that, especially 766 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: those of us who are not professional athletes, which is 767 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: damn near all of us. So shout out to the 768 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: foreign players. I feel like they get it, and I 769 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: wish we saw more everyday regular people embrace that philosophy, 770 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: and I wish we had more athletes who are as 771 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: honest and open as now. 772 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 7: I think part of it is marketability too, Like we 773 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 7: have this idea that being marketable is being perfect, you 774 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 7: know what I mean, And they have proven that wrong. 775 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. American players love Luca love. 776 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 7: I mean, let American fans love Luca love Yiannis, you know, 777 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 7: love and Beid. You know what I'm saying. Like so 778 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 7: like Joker, obviously too, you feel me so, like, I 779 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 7: think the honesty is actually endearing because we don't hear 780 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 7: it from American players, you know what I mean where 781 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 7: we get these I mean, as much as we love Lebron, 782 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 7: he's gonna give you the exact answer he's supposed to 783 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 7: give you, you know what I mean, because that's what 784 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 7: a marketable man does, a man who is a business 785 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 7: not just a basketball player. You feel me, But like 786 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 7: hearing like a Yianni is a guy that is as. 787 00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: Good as he is. 788 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 7: Who want I think two MVPs that up to that 789 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 7: point and uh and and was and was saying he's 790 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 7: not the best player in the world. That is sacrilege 791 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 7: for something, you know what I'm saying, but not that honesty, 792 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 7: and we actually I think that was actually endearing. Most 793 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 7: people I know thought that was endearing too. I mean 794 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 7: the media, they you know, you can't say that, not whatever, 795 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 7: But you know, most basketball fans I know it is like, yeah, 796 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 7: I get that you are the most valuable player in 797 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 7: the league, but you are not the best player in 798 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 7: the league right now with KD being who he is. 799 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: So I think that's interesting. 800 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 7: Too, And I think we can take a look, we 801 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 7: could we should peak that too, like, bro, like you. 802 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: Could still be marketably and be honest. 803 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 7: Also, like maybe it's more endearing and fans would like 804 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 7: that more if you were to be more yourself and 805 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 7: not the person that you've been, you know, trained to 806 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 7: be on camera. 807 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: You feel that. 808 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting like paradox because fans and 809 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: uh people in this country connect to those who come 810 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: off as genuine above all else, whether it's politics, whether 811 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: it's sports, whether it's entertainment. You know, I'm not a 812 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: fan of Donald Trump, but like his fans think that 813 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: like he's the most connected in the world. I felt 814 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: that way about Barack Obama, like the people who are 815 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 2: like politicians you care about, you have that feeling about. 816 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: It's the same thing with athletes. Like the reasons I've 817 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: connected with that I've felt connected with Braun have nothing 818 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: to do with the way that he answers questions because 819 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: of exactly. 820 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: What you just said. 821 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: It has to do with the personality that you see 822 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: on the court and that we see like the dorky 823 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: dad stuff. That means so much more to me as 824 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: a fan of sports than any of the like you know, 825 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: sort of can answers even on stuff that I care 826 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 2: about social issues and stuff, you know what I mean. 827 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: So I think both of what you're talking about comes 828 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 2: out of you know, Tyler talking about the competitiveness, John 829 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: talking about the marketability. It both comes from this really 830 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 2: uniquely American obsession in our capitalist society with like work 831 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: and with profit and like what you but because you're 832 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: both talking about the exact same thing, just different sides 833 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: of that same coin, right, And like we all see, 834 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: like we all grow up in that. Like when I 835 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: talk to Vinnie about wanting to be a pro baseball player, 836 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: he's talking about being on the cover of video games 837 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: and in commercials and stuff, you know, and I'm I'm 838 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: always sort of nudging him away from that, Like, look 839 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: how much fun Mookie Bets is having. That's what That's 840 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: what you you know what I mean? 841 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 3: Like bet right, you know what I mean. 842 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: But that is just not what we're sort of driven to. 843 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: And I love the idea that what Luca is doing 844 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: is both being honest but also it's the European ideal 845 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: of taking a little siesta. You know, he's going on 846 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: holiday on the defensive end of the court, you know, 847 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: Like and we don't feel comfortable with that. We're bringing 848 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: our laptops on vacation as shit. But the European players 849 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: are like, no, this is my afternoon nap is on 850 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the. 851 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: Court, right we are. We are the biggest fucking hustle 852 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: culture country on the planet. Like every other country on 853 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: the planet does not take working as seriously as we do. Like, 854 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, whole ass towns shut down in the 855 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: middle of the day for like two hours so motherfuckers 856 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: can take a nap and a break from work. It's different. 857 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: And there was a dude who hit me on Twitter, 858 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: Rod Benson. He played overseas and he said, when I 859 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: played in Korea, I realized part of it is a 860 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: lack of synonyms in other languages, meaning we have one 861 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: hundred ways to say someone put on weight in the 862 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: off season in English, but Koreans would just be like, 863 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: so you're fat now, huh no other translation. So yeah, 864 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate how foreigner. A foreigner's just just to not 865 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: play the little passive aggressive bullshit that Americans have to 866 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: play that we've been indoctrinated to play. So shots to them, man, 867 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: they get it. 868 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I think was it Rita mentioned the 869 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: new NBA CBA we didn't talk about in the last show. 870 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: I wanted a chance to read about four hundred thousand 871 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: words about this shit so I could not sound like 872 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: idiot talking about it. Big changes to the NBA. I 873 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: don't know how much you guys have tapped in on it. 874 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 2: We could have Nate Jones come in and explain in 875 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: great detail this new second luxury tax apron. I think 876 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: I could do it decent job, but basically for teams 877 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: like the Warriors and the Bucks that have really been 878 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: spending deep into the luxury tax, I know Lakers fans 879 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: really want Genie Buzz to. 880 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: Do this even more. 881 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: There is now a sort of really actually kind of 882 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: the first hard cap that the NBA has had that 883 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: if you're seventeen and a half million over that luxury tax, 884 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: you actually lose privileges of being able to sign bought 885 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: out players and use other exceptions and stuff. And that's 886 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: really the first time they've said, hey, if you're over 887 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: this line you were, we're not fully handcuffing you, but 888 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: we're going to tie one arm behind your back in 889 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: terms of how you're allowed to navigate. 890 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: I think There's two schools. 891 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: Of thought here that I think are both correct about 892 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 2: huge spending teams being good for sports, but also parody 893 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: being good for sports, which huge spending teams reduces the 894 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: amount of parody you have. So what do you guys 895 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: think of this? Do you think the best version of 896 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: the NBA is a you know, European soccer style thing 897 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: where it's just like we're we're in a spending race 898 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 2: and if you get the right owner, is working out 899 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: for you? And or do you think it's more like 900 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: the NFL model of you're gonna have a different you're 901 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: gonna have six seven different championships a decade because there's 902 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: more parody off of a hard cap Like which direction 903 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 2: would you, just as fans rather see the league going? 904 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: I think I think parity is actually great for the NBA, especially, 905 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: you know if you look historically, like you know, the 906 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: NBA was booming when Magic and Bird were you know, 907 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: in the finals every damn year. You know, we saw 908 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, MJ winning six out of eight, had the 909 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: NBA at the most popular it's it's ever been globally. 910 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Warriors went on that run and and 911 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: you know we saw another ratings boost there when we 912 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: knew they were going to, you know, just run away 913 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: with shit every year. I think parody is good for 914 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, kind of goes back to what 915 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: we discussed, you know about how how fans want familiarity. 916 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: You know how we just had that discussion with Rita Minchell's, 917 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, about how that benefits the WNBA. So I 918 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: think that parody is actually good for the NBA. I'm 919 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: just concerned about how did they come to this. You know, 920 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 1: I know that owners are cheap, you know, the owners 921 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: who will spend our a rarity. I guess that they 922 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: got boxed out on this, But but I'm just curious, 923 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: like I would like an exposa whatever behind the scenes shit, 924 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: don't like you know, the negotiations on this and now 925 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: this is all exactly happened. 926 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you. 927 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 2: I think that the NBA, the NBA Players Association, fucked 928 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 2: up horrendously on this. And if I were an NBA player, 929 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 2: because you allowed you allowed the twenty to twenty five 930 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: owners that are the cheaper owners, to limit the amount 931 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: of money that your labor pool is allowed to make. 932 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: Without making that an issue. No, no, are you not 933 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: parody or against parody? 934 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm I would say I'm for parody, but I'm 935 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: also for labor, and so just as someone who covers 936 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: like in our educational system, alum beach, I, one of 937 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: the things I report on is contract negotiations the teachers 938 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: in the school is you are going through it right now. 939 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that the NBA Players Association allowed a hard 940 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 2: cap to be put on their sport for the first 941 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: time without here. I didn't hear about this. I didn't 942 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 2: know this was something they were pushing for. I didn't 943 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is something that was a fight, 944 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 2: but I think without them necessarily realizing what was happening, 945 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 2: you've really fundamentally changed the nature of the sport by 946 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: putting this hard cap on, because now you're saying the 947 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 2: richest people can't give us more money. 948 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: Like that's what you're. 949 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: Saying, you know, And as a union, that is not 950 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: what you That is not the approach that I think 951 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: anyone would want their union if they're a member of one, 952 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: taking with with ownership. 953 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know as far as with parody, 954 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 7: I don't know if parody, I think for the same 955 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 7: reasons I didn't give a fuck about the National Championship, 956 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 957 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: Like, I want to see the dogs playing each other, 958 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I want to see Brian 959 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: Is stuff back to back, back to back like that. 960 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 3: That's not parody. 961 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: You want to see the King's test a big before 962 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: they get to the finals? 963 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So I mean it's it's cool to have 964 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 7: an OKC being good or the Grizzlies giving. 965 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 3: People, you know, trouble, you know what I mean. 966 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 7: But like as far as when it comes to the chip, 967 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 7: I want to see the gods dueling. 968 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't need the cute shit. 969 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 7: I want to see the big dogs being big dogs 970 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 7: and let's make them prove themselves. 971 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. 972 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 7: So, I mean, I'm not necessarily I don't know if 973 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 7: I'm necessarily for parody. You know, I guess I'm four 974 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 7: parody to an extent, you know what I mean. But yeah, well, 975 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 7: I mean, Draymond talked about this, like the sixty five 976 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 7: the game minimum. 977 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: So one of the other changes that they put in 978 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: is to be eligible for the Big Postseason Award. 979 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 3: The big enviers against sixty five games. 980 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: That you have to play to be eligible for MVP, 981 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: dp O Y et cetera, et cetera, and they're doing 982 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 2: they put that in obviously as an anti load management tactic. 983 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: The three of us have talked about this. Load management 984 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 2: comes from the ownership, it doesn't come from the players. 985 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: So I'm not necessarily sure. Maybe this is just a 986 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: way that they can have there be a headline saying 987 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 2: they're trying to do something about load management. 988 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: But I don't see this. 989 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: Moving the needle on it that much. Do you guys 990 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: have any feelings whatsoever about it? 991 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you think. 992 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: I think I saw somewhere where they looked at like 993 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: the last fifteen MVPs, and all of them had played 994 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: like sixty five games anyway, So I feel like that 995 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: was more of an unspoken rule regardless, you know that 996 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: they just kind of you know, substantialized there. So so yeah, 997 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not too you know, to to up 998 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: in arms about that one. 999 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1000 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, But but I mean the whole thing is is, 1001 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, besides the MVP, you know, when you talk 1002 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: about like all defense bonuses, all the you know, all 1003 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: in the first team NBA incentives. 1004 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 1005 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: That's where shit can get tricky because that shit might 1006 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: fuck some money, but shit that's beyond their control. Like 1007 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: if they tweak an ankle in they're out, you know, 1008 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: of a few games or whatever. 1009 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: You So, I mean, Draymond talked about how I said, Yo, 1010 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 3: all NBA. You know what I'm saying. 1011 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 7: You got a dude that's at eighty million dollar. Dude 1012 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 7: was asking for a max you know, you want a 1013 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 7: two hundred million dollar contract because he was All NBA. 1014 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: Because a lot some of the players had, like I 1015 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 3: mean do a lot. 1016 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 7: A lot of the all NBA caliber players this year 1017 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 7: have missed significant time, not because they were you know, 1018 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 7: load managing, because they were hurt, you know what I mean. 1019 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 7: Like you feel me like STEP's getting older, Kd's getting older, 1020 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 7: Bronze getting older. 1021 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what says, you know what I mean. 1022 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 7: So like so, so I'm just saying, like, like I 1023 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 7: don't know if that's necessarily beneficial to I mean, not 1024 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 7: MVP race. That's not a that's not a question. You know, 1025 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 7: like you said, there's there's a minimum, there's a cap. 1026 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 7: You know, there's a there's a minimum amount of games 1027 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 7: that's expected, you know. I mean, if you miss a 1028 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 7: third of the season, you're not in the MVP race. 1029 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 3: Point blak. I don't give a fuck how good you 1030 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: were in that two thirds of the season. 1031 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 7: But like for all NBA, man, you know, I think 1032 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 7: there's con squitches for you know, the players as well 1033 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 7: as owners. 1034 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 2: So yes, and that was Draymond's point was the owners 1035 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: aren't gonna be real happy if the pool of these 1036 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 2: players gets limited to not the people that they're in 1037 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: their front offices, but they should be giving two hundred 1038 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: million dollars to a million dollars. 1039 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 8: I did the the counting on last year's All NBA teams. 1040 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 8: There were four of the of the fifteen players played 1041 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 8: fewer than sixty five games. Two more played exactly sixty five. 1042 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 8: So if those two players had played one fewer games 1043 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 8: than the sick Like if you go down the list 1044 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 8: about the voting, who is like the sixth guy that 1045 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 8: would be coming into a place, It would be Desmond 1046 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 8: Bay not a bum but by Draymond's words, but also 1047 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 8: not a super max player. 1048 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 3: And he and yeah he didn't mean bum as if 1049 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: they were bumbs. He's just saying bumbs in the States. 1050 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: You're playing you all NBA, You're you're amongst the gods. 1051 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 2: Look, I might have sator that works really well, but 1052 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 2: if I paid two hundred million dollars for it, it's 1053 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 2: a shitty refrigerator. 1054 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You feel me? 1055 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 7: Facts? Facts, facts, facts, You know what I'm saying. It's 1056 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 7: about value, it's not you know what I mean? And 1057 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 7: uh yeah, So I'm like, I mean, if if if 1058 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 7: it was one or two players, the replacements will be 1059 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 7: two hundred million dollar players, do you know what I mean? 1060 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 2: No one felt like the All NBA team got half 1061 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: a dozen people wrong. 1062 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: Right, you feel me? 1063 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 3: That's that's where we're at. And so that's what I'm saying, Like, 1064 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I don't uh. 1065 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of other changes, a lot 1066 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: of other changes in the CBA. Players will no longer 1067 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: be tested for weed and are now allowed to endorse 1068 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: do endorsements with cannabis companies as well as gambling companies. 1069 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: Those are two very big issues that only get lumps to. 1070 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 3: Is we'd allowed to advertise yet? Because I know they 1071 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 3: couldn't advertise, Like. 1072 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: The players are now allowed to do endorsement deals. I 1073 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: think that weed is still not allowed to like, you know, 1074 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: I think they're still in the same commercial, but the 1075 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: player could do it. Yeah, right, right right, But you know, 1076 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: high long past time obviously for some of the changes 1077 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: on the weed stuff. What are your thoughts on that? 1078 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: And then on the gambling thing. First of all, I 1079 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: do think it's good if the league's going to make 1080 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: as much money off gambling as they will be, it's 1081 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: good to let the players have a share of that. 1082 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: It will be interesting as we move forward where you know, 1083 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: a guy misses a free throw at the end of 1084 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: the game, you know, or or whatever, and then is 1085 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: on a commercial right afterwards going such and such. 1086 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the the incorporation of legalized gambling into 1087 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: into the NBA, it's I don't know, man, like, Like, 1088 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, we all saw the report that came out 1089 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: with when Bradley Bill slapped the dude's hat off his 1090 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: head because he said, you fucked up my parlay. You know, like, 1091 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: first of all, your motherfucking parlay. Second all to the 1092 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: cops because your hat got smacked off. But but I mean, 1093 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it is a tricky situation in corporatez, you know, 1094 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: incorporating legalized gambling. You know, I get if if it's 1095 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: okay it's legal to bet on this league now, but 1096 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: when you incorporate the players, I think she's just gonna 1097 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: get tricky there. 1098 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 7: Though he went to the cops because Bradley Bill smacked 1099 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 7: his hat off, not because his hat got smacked off. 1100 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 7: He was trying to, like, nigga, run me some of that, please, 1101 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 7: Bradley Bill paid the smart You ain't gonna get no 1102 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 7: damn damages, you know, forgetting. 1103 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: Your hand. 1104 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 7: Like dumb for ridiculous. But yeah, you know, like Thomerson, 1105 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 7: don't get interesting. 1106 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 3: I'm into. I mean, we'll see how that, you know, 1107 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: plays out. But I'm glad. I mean, they weren't. They 1108 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 3: already weren't. 1109 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 7: Even testing these players for tree. We already know what 1110 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 7: tom it is. You know, I'm saying like it's it's 1111 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 7: you know, it's it's it was. It's unnecessary to prevent 1112 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 7: them from making bread, you know, promoting that. 1113 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: We know, we know what players are doing. 1114 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 7: As long as they playing games and showing up, you know, 1115 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 7: doing their ship, we don't give a fuck. And you know, 1116 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 7: I just I think like it's just continuing to decriminalize 1117 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 7: that in the NBA, is you know, or are not 1118 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 7: punishing people and allowing them to actually make bread in 1119 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 7: that way. I just I think it's it's moving in 1120 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 7: the way that society's moving in the same direction, you 1121 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 7: feel me. 1122 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: One of the one of the things I think a 1123 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,919 Speaker 2: lot of people, including myself, expected, was that they would 1124 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: be getting rid of the one and done rule, which 1125 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: they did not do. And if I can put my 1126 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: Bill Simmons hat on here, my conspiracy theory had always 1127 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 2: been on this that the you could go straight from 1128 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: high school to the pros. For bron then they put 1129 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 2: the one and done rule in and I thought they 1130 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: were going to rescind it for Bronni. And then maybe 1131 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 2: maybe it's either because Bronni doesn't look like he's league 1132 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: ready or because Lebron looks like he'll be able to 1133 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: play a couple more years to where he can wait 1134 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: for his kids to get into the league. 1135 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they didn't change it. But what do 1136 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 3: you guys think? 1137 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,479 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there was so much hullabaloo about 1138 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 2: the one and done shit when it first started. I 1139 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: don't know I men's basketball as we just talked about 1140 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: at the collegiate level, it sort of needs to do 1141 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 2: some soul searching generally. But his nose and he's sick 1142 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: right now, So I know that didn't feel good. Right, 1143 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: What do you guys think? What would you do if 1144 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: you're in there voting? Do you think the one and 1145 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: done thing is good for the league? 1146 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 3: You know? Or or what do you think they should 1147 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 3: have done with that rule? 1148 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: I just don't know how the one and done rule 1149 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: benefits the NBA because these guys are not getting developed 1150 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: in college. Like coach k flatout came out and said, 1151 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: I am not here to help guys get ready for 1152 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: the league. I'm here to run my program, right like, 1153 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,959 Speaker 1: that is not a focus of college programs is helping 1154 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: guys get league ready. So I honestly do not know 1155 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: why they have that rule there. But I don't know. 1156 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: It's it's weird, say say it feels like there's this 1157 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 2: squishy gray space in the American hoops is so like 1158 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 2: from youth travel team, high school and AAU culture, and 1159 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: then there's sort of college slash, the G League, elite 1160 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 2: slash going overseas, and then there's the NBA, which is 1161 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: this very clearly defined thing, and it's like weird that 1162 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like there's a It doesn't feel like 1163 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: the bridge from being an elite fourteen year old to 1164 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 2: being an NBA player is made out of concrete anymore. 1165 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1166 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: It's more so like you kind of jump off of 1167 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 2: one edge of a pool and you kind of thrash 1168 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: around and hopefully end up on the other side. 1169 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 3: Of the pool. 1170 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they'll be more aggressive with the G 1171 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: League elite shit, I have no idea. 1172 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I have no idea. But it's just 1173 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: a weird relationship that the NBA has with college basketball. 1174 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 1: It's not like the NFL in college football, like college 1175 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: football is the unofficial farm league of the NFL, right, 1176 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: like like they are locked in step and having guys 1177 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: ready to come to their league from college. That's not 1178 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: the case with basketball with the NBA. 1179 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like, you know, like I don't know 1180 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 7: if the way that the game is played is so different, 1181 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 7: almost seems like two totally different games, you know what 1182 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 7: I'm I mean, Like college basketball in the NBA, I 1183 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 7: don't know if a player is more ready for the 1184 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 7: NBA being that playing a year in college, being that 1185 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 7: high school seems to mimic the NBA better for whatever 1186 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 7: reason as far as the style of play, And I mean, 1187 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 7: I guess it's obviously the. 1188 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 3: Talent level in college is way better. 1189 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 7: But I mean, these guys are playing each other in aau, 1190 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like they're they're getting they're 1191 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 7: getting you know, bump with with with high level players 1192 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,240 Speaker 7: as well as like the summer runs, like the UCLA 1193 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 7: runs and stuff like that. They're getting good bumped with, 1194 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 7: like with like quality quality players. So beano assessed themselves. 1195 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 7: I don't know if a year of college truly benefits 1196 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 7: these players, you know, you know, making them more prepared 1197 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 7: for the NBA. 1198 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 3: So, okay, there are a lot of changes. 1199 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: The last one will talk about congrats to Jackson and 1200 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 2: all other Celtics fans on the Jalen round brule rule 1201 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 2: being implemented. But let's talk about the mid season tournament 1202 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 2: they are going to go forward with that could be 1203 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 2: as early as the upcoming season. There will be a 1204 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: pool play stretch that will then be followed by an 1205 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 2: eight game or eighteen single elimination tournament in the middle of. 1206 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 3: The season at some point. 1207 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: What are your guys reactions to that obviously gonna be 1208 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: a big change. I'm sure there will be a lot 1209 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 2: of people making fun of it. If it ends up 1210 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 2: being exciting, there'll be a lot of people excited about it. 1211 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 2: Like what were your thoughts when you saw, Okay, this 1212 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,959 Speaker 2: thing they've been talking about they're actually gonna go forward 1213 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 2: with it. 1214 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that my favorite thing about the Bubble 1215 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: was how we were getting games from like eleven am 1216 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: to like fucking won it in the morning, right, Like 1217 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: I love that. I feel like if they can replicate that, 1218 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: if they can put that fucking magic back in a 1219 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: bottle where you're getting you know, all these teams in 1220 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: one spot, you're giving us fucking you know, five six, 1221 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: seven games a day, If they can replicate the magic 1222 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: from the Bubble that I enjoyed, I think that they 1223 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: might have something with that. 1224 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 7: Honestly do I think if they can make it important 1225 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 7: to the players, you know what I mean? Like, how 1226 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 7: are they gonna make it important to the players Where 1227 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm getting a little bit of you know, 1228 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 7: playoff basketball in the middle of the season. I would 1229 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 7: love for like players, if it actually matters to players 1230 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 7: and they're banging like you know what I'm saying, Like 1231 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 7: it doesn't have to be you know, we don't need 1232 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 7: full playoffs obviously, you know what I mean. But like, 1233 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 7: if it's really competitive, highly competitive games the players are 1234 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 7: truly cared about, caring about and want to win, I 1235 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 7: would love to see that, like in the middle of 1236 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 7: the season where I feel like a lot of players 1237 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 7: are kind of on cruise control, trying to get to 1238 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 7: the point where shit starts to matter, you. 1239 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So we'll see. But I mean, 1240 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it may be interesting. 1241 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 7: I think they do need to do something around their 1242 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 7: time to get you know, the average fan more interesting 1243 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 7: because it is kind of dull as somebody that has 1244 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 7: to watch these games, you know, it does become kind 1245 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 7: of monotonous. So I'm excited to see what they do 1246 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 7: with it, and I hope they do, you know, I 1247 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 7: hope they nail it. 1248 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 2: I think they deserve some credit because you know, the 1249 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 2: play in was implemented to do exactly. Like the issue 1250 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: is this, it's eighty two games. No one wants to 1251 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 2: change the number of games. Everyone says they want to 1252 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 2: change the number of games because they know it's the 1253 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: right thing to do. But no one wants to give 1254 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: up the amount of money you'd have to give up 1255 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: to get up ten twenty games, right, And so the 1256 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: challenge is, how do you make eighty to make a 1257 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 2: higher percentage of the eighty two games feel like they matter, 1258 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 2: like John said, making an entertaining product. And I think 1259 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: that that number has gotten smaller. The trend has been 1260 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 2: that the number of games that feel like they matter 1261 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 2: has gotten smaller over the years, right. And like what 1262 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 2: used to be exciting about Christmas was that everyone really cared, 1263 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It was like that point, yes, 1264 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 2: And I think even that's sort of been lost a 1265 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: little bit where you see guys, you know, I mean, 1266 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: you've had guys load managing on fucking Christmas. Right. So, 1267 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 2: to me, the playing game was a success. The Playing 1268 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 2: Tournament was a success absolutely As a Lakers fan, and 1269 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: I think any fan of a team in the Western Conference, 1270 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 2: basically the last month of basketball, I've been locked the 1271 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 2: fuck in because every game is flipping you wildly in 1272 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: the standings. And that's and that seven through ten has 1273 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: created a real thing where, yes, you have a smaller 1274 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 2: percentage of teams tanking towards the end of the season 1275 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 2: because of the play tournament. So I think that's a success. 1276 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 2: I think they deserve credit for it because a lot 1277 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: of people were really you know, questioning that when they 1278 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: put that in. This I hope is the same amount 1279 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: of success. I hope that, like we said, like it 1280 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 2: just ups that number of games where it feels like 1281 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 2: it's really intense and people care about it a little bit. 1282 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 2: And we'll see because you're you're right, Tyler makes a 1283 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: great point about the presentation. If you have meaningful NBA 1284 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: basketball games on at noon on a Tuesday, I'm gonna 1285 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,479 Speaker 2: be locked in so fucking hard, I can't tell you. 1286 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 3: But if it's just christ. 1287 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 7: So hard right right exactly, so we'll see it goes. 1288 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 2: All right, that's enough serious sports talk. We do have 1289 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: a briefly uh before we get out of here. Uh, 1290 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 2: I just need a little bit of commentary on the 1291 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: Vince McMahon makeover. 1292 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 3: Gentlemen, I didn't see it. I didn't see it, bro, 1293 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 3: I didn't see it. 1294 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: Looked like Charles robson bro going by. 1295 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 7: I didn't know who the nigga was because he got 1296 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 7: his whole ship fucked up. 1297 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: This good about no, no, no, I don't even not even 1298 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 2: gonna say anything. I'm just gonna send it. I'm just 1299 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 2: gonna send it. Man, all right, Tyler, don't say anything 1300 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: yet because I need, we need the full power of. 1301 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: Both of you on the same page. Let me let 1302 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: me see this, man, send me this. You said there yet, 1303 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 3: I said it. Got me teened up, I said it. Okay, 1304 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 3: here we go, Here we go? Man, Man, Man, Oh wow? 1305 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 3: Is this right? Is this really the same nigga? Bro? 1306 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 3: What's up with the stash? My nigga? 1307 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 9: He used to be playing a trumpet somewhere. You feel 1308 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 9: me fucking's wrong with him? Dick tracy looking ass nigga? 1309 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 9: How you gonna make over look older nigga? You're from 1310 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 9: a different errow. 1311 00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: Motherfucker. 1312 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: God damn hell? 1313 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 3: What the fuck? He looked like a Batman character, like 1314 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 3: an evil villain. You know what I'm saying? From the 1315 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: dark knight? 1316 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 7: Did he changed his voice and go in his face 1317 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 7: to the voice? Gott to match the face? Now this 1318 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 7: nigga need to act it. 1319 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 3: Goddamn. 1320 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: Why is this mustache studying so low? Like I've never 1321 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: seen a mustache. I've never seen a mustache A stark 1322 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: mid lip on the motherfucker like shit crast going on. 1323 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: God damn mofucker looks like he's about to lie to 1324 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: someone about a bank loan. Bro, Like this is not 1325 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: a real person. She Spencer Hall said that this is 1326 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: a dude who looks like he's ready to fake his 1327 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: own death. And I cannot unsee that ship, bro, the 1328 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: big facts, Bro, this is identity waiting to happen. 1329 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 4: Bro. 1330 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 3: This feels racist as fuck. 1331 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 7: Dog, there's a Cuban out there like this Nigga stole 1332 00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 7: my face. Dog, I the man moneys. This is thievery nigga. 1333 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 7: God damn bro. 1334 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 3: Sheesh like he put a whole new face on him. 1335 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 3: It's like he got his whole ship face. Like you know, 1336 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 3: he swapped this ship. God Lee Bro. 1337 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 7: He should have did the eyes to the Miyes beaty 1338 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 7: as hell, bro, God Lee. 1339 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 3: Bro, this is the thing. Dog, Nigga, don't get that 1340 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 3: ship on your face. 1341 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 7: Just did with being old. The motherfuckers can fight it, bro. 1342 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 7: But it looked like his faceman to fall. 1343 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 3: Off the bone. You know what I mean. He like, Nigga, 1344 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 3: don't do it it. 1345 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 7: He got a smoke brisket faced nigga. 1346 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 3: Dog Bro, It's not it never turns out the way 1347 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 3: you wanted to. That's crazy, all right. 1348 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: That's all the time we have for Jenkins and Jones 1349 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 2: Turkey neck shouting too. 1350 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 3: It's weird because only this part is tight. The rest 1351 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 3: is still loose arounded. Bro, he didn't, Bro, you a billionaire? 1352 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 3: Ain't you a millionaire? You could get the whole head just. 1353 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 2: Sold his share of the company. He just made four 1354 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 2: billion dollars. And I believe that was his first public 1355 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 2: appearance after becoming someone with four billion. 1356 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Dollars that we're looking at, Bro, but it ain't worth it, dog. 1357 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 3: Bro, nigga, it ain't. Bro. We can't. We can't out God, God, nigga. 1358 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 3: You just got to deal with what you got. 1359 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Walked into the esthetition and said give me the warrio. Allright. 1360 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: Congrats to Vince McMahon on his new face. You know, 1361 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 2: hope it's just some remodeling. If you're a happy work, 1362 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 2: I guess all right, that's all the time we got. 1363 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: We will have our last Genus and Jones and friends 1364 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: for a little bit on Saturday with Pablo Torre uh 1365 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: talking about leaving ESPN joining Meadowlark Media. You definitely want 1366 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: to hear that great interview with Pablo Uh and then 1367 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: we will be live Sunday night as we continue to 1368 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 2: get ready for these playoffs, playing tournaments happening next week. 1369 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Very excited for that. So we'll see y'all Sunday and 1370 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 2: we'll let y'all know what the schedule is going to be. 1371 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: We will be going live after games. Obviously, if you're 1372 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: just listening to it on the feeds, it it'll be 1373 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: up in the feeds, same as it normally is. 1374 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 3: But we will be. 1375 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Doing the Amazon amp live records after games, hopefully with 1376 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 2: some of our friends joining us after some of those games, 1377 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We're very excited. Play off basketball right. 1378 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 3: Around the corner. See y'all next time. 1379 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 7: Bye bye, nigg Hey to look like Zoro, Nigga, to 1380 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 7: look like the baked potato version of Zoro. 1381 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 3: God damn 1382 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: What