1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Clay 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast starts now. One of the services I 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: feel I can provide here sometimes on the show is 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: to save you time that you might otherwise waste. One 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: of the best things I feel like I can do 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: in a short form or short order is to just say, Hey, 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to watch the following it, don't waste 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: your time at the following and I've got to I've 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: got one for you today that is Wow. We actually 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: have a little bit of the official trailer for you 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: just so you can kind of I think you can 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: even hear in the short trailer. Yeah, this of all 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the CIA entertainment stuff that I've ever seen, all the movies, 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: all the TV shows, and yeah, people always ask me, 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: is it realized? No. I mean the best stuff is 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the most unrealistic stuff, which is James Bond, M I six, 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, Q, all the rest of that. Um right, 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: that's the best stuff. But even some of the some 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: of the more realistic stuff is pretty good. Zero Dark 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: thirty I think is very good for what it was. 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: I like Spy Game a lot with Brad Pitt and 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Robert Redford. That's that's a that's a good watch. There 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: are some others that I would I would throw in 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: the mix and say there's something. I like the Bourne 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Identity movies. Even though it's all just about the CIA 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: being bad and CIA people fighting other CIA people. It's like, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: there's no other bad guys in the world, just CIA 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: people who are bad, but they're they're entertaining, their slick, 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: they're well made. So I like the Bourne films. You know, 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch. So I'm saying this all because 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't want some some people will say, oh, you 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: hate everything. It's like I don't. I just hate things 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: that are bad and should be hated. It's very straightforward 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: this show. Now, there was a Colin Farrell movie which 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't need to be 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: mean to be a hater. I think Colin Farrell has 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: ruined everything I've ever seen him in. He was horrible 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: in the Miami Vice movie. He I didn't even see 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the Alexander the Great movie that Oliver Stone made. No 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: one saw that thing. Colin Farrell had a moment as 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: an actor where he was the leading man, and I 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: don't get it. I've never understood it. But he was 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: in The Recruit, which was about a guy, young guy 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: gets pulled in the CIA, and that movie came out 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: right around the time I was a young guy who 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: was getting pulled into the CIA. So you can imagine 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, cool, not very good. A 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: lot of Alpaccino. Hey, whoa you're a new CIA man. 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Hey who you know Peccino doing his Peccino thing. Wow? 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: He So the Recruit was not good when it was 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Colin Farrell. They've redone the Recruit on Netflix. And here 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: is just a snippet of the trailer, Welcome to CIA. 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Better ten minutes. But you're a very busy man, I 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: get it. You running the whole operation? You mean how 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: long I've been working here? About two days? How's this? 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Every letter is from someone threatening to expose classified information 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: if they don't help them. You're the lawyer, figure it out, shoot, 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: do your business. Get out when Hendricks from the CIA 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: we got your letter. Have you made any new friends 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: or overthrown any foreign governments? Have you overthrown any foreign governments? 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh boy? I got fifteen minutes into this thing on Netflix, 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and I have got to like I would offer myself 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: up as an advisor. I would even advise somebody just 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: for for for giggles, to help them make a better series. 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: It is the worst thing I think I've ever seen 66 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: on Netflix. The guy iet, the acting is bad, nothing 67 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: is nothing looks right, nothing sounds right. It's all you know, 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing is. And you can tell her it's 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna get very woke. I didn't even get I got 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes into it and I bailed. I'm telling you 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: the truth, but I was appalled by this. They've got 72 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: this guy who's been there for two days in the CIA. Okay, 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: he's like a lawyer who's been the CI for two days, 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: and they're just like, yeah, we're just gonna send you 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: to a black site in Yemen. And he buys a 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: commercial airline airplane ticket and walks up to some building 77 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: that he believes is the black site, knocks on the 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: doors like hey, I'm the CIA guy who's here for 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: the black site, and then the CIA people inside start 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: torturing him, and I was like, I'm out. This is 81 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. It is, Honestly, 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: it is so bad that it is comical. I don't 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: know what else you would put it in that category 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: of so bad it's almost good. It's one of the worst. 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: It's one of the worst things I've ever seen. I mean, 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: I do remember back in the HBO days, there was 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: you remember the leper Con series I'm the Laper, you know, 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Um there there were five of those movies, and I 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: at one point watched a little bit of um LEPrecon 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: in space. They also that was LEPrecon four. I believe 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: LEPrecon five was LEPrecon in the Hood, which you can 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: imagine what that was like. But I do remember watching 93 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of LEPrecon and it was so bad 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: that it was fascinating. I'm like, how did there were people? 95 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: There were somebody wrote this script, there are actors being paid, 96 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: there are cameras that were used for this, and it's 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. It's it's like the train wreck that 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: is unfolding before your very eyes in in real time. Um, 99 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: this Netflix series is that bad. I might have to 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: go back and watch a little bit more of it, 101 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: just because but it honestly, Uh, it was like it 102 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: was like a couple of toddlers or something got together 103 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: and recited what they thought a CIA screenplay. He should 104 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: be like, it was really really bad remark because I've 105 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of people have been asking me about 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: I was at the gym friend of mine keem Mose, 107 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: have you seen the new CIA thing on Netflix? Like, oh, 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, I've been out of the CIA for a decade, 109 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: but you know, I know some things and so I 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: had to check it out. It is. It is so bad. 111 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: It's very very diverse. So it's got that going for it. 112 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: That is if you were trying to I mean this, 113 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: if you're trying to find a thing that you could 114 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: say that anybody would find to be positive about. The 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: show is a very diverse cast, that is it. That 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: is the only thing. Everything else about the dialogue that 117 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: it was. I'm just telling you it was crazy bad. 118 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: So and I know this is like I my friend 119 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly was tweeting about this. You all know Jesse 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: Premiere Radio Network syndicated host six to nine Eastern and 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: uh I Jesse tweeted out that he had He wouldn't 122 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: tell me what the movie was, but he picked the 123 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: whole family night, you know, a family night at home 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: movie night choice. He wouldn't say what it was. I 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: did this for Thanksgiving, and I thought I was in 126 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: pretty good shape with Greyhound. That Tom Hanks destroyer as 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in Naval Destroyers World War Two Destroyer movie. That movie 128 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: was rightly described by one of my family members as 129 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: a training exercise pretending to be a movie. If you 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: want to have like a guide for how the Navy 131 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: does what it did in World War Two, fine, but 132 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: to call it a movie might be a bit of 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: an overstatement because it did seem like they were just 134 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: filming one long training exercise, and so that was not 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: a winner. And if you're going to be the one 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: picking the movie for movie night for Christmas, pick a winner. 137 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Go with die Hard. You'll never go wrong with die Hard. 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm here to unless you get little kids because a 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: little violent, But okay, if we need something that's not violent, 140 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: that's a Christmas movie. I was so happy when I 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: gave Clay the Monster Squad recommendation for the Halloween because 142 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: that's a great kid friendly, classic monster kind of movie, 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: no one gets scared, really really fun movie. Trying to 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: think of what the there's a lot of good Christmas options. 145 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I think they're probably for a holiday, more good Christmas 146 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: movies than any other any other genre. I know they've 147 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: started making a lot of Valentine's Day movies and that's 148 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: such a scam, right. The whole point is, then you 149 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: gotta take your day on Valentine's Day to the movies 150 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: to see the Valentine's Day movie, and whatever they're doing 151 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: in that movie is probably more exciting, you know, whatever 152 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: gifts they're giving, and you know, it's probably more exciting 153 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: than whatever any of us have got. Going Valentine's Day 154 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: as a as a holiday is maybe the biggest scam. 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, well, there's like International Sock Day and stuff, 156 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: but you know, as an actual holiday, I don't know. 157 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day you get the worst service in restaurants, the 158 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: most crowded restaurants. They do the prefixed menu on you. 159 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Prefixed menu is just French for you're gonna get screwed 160 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: over here. Okay, that's what it's French for. They're gonna 161 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: give you the easiest to make, least exciting things on 162 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: the menu. You get no choice in the matter, and 163 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna double charge you. It's kind of like New 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. At least New Year's Eve, you know, you 165 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: get an excuse to drink a bottle of champagne and 166 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: maybe get a little silly. Probably not like, well, maybe 167 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: you do that on maybe you do that on Valentine's 168 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Day too. Anyway, I'm just trying to save you from 169 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: having to watch The Recruit on Netflix. So there you go. 170 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: That was my review. I do movie or in this case, 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Netflix streaming reviews too. I couldn't believe how. I just 172 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: couldn't believe how bad it was. I don't even know 173 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: how this is possible to make a movie that's wokeness 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: ruins everything, and it is ruining. It has ruined Netflix. 175 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I think already I'm man, am I gonna get rid 176 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: of my Netflix subscription? I might Sundays with Clay and Vuck. 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I get all excited about this. Clay, what is if 178 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna recommend one weekend read nonfiction book to somebody, 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: what is it like weekend nonfiction and something that you 180 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: just you can't even tailor it to the person. You're 181 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: just giving them one book that's nonfiction to read that 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna like, I read a I mean, 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: first of all, that's a broad category of nerd, so 184 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm reading a book about Picket's charge, 185 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, you know, third day Battle 186 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: of Gettysburg. I'm not sure that every person out there 187 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: is gonna love it. The one of the best nonfiction 188 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: books that I have read, and I came to this 189 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: one a little bit late. The Lost City of z 190 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Have you read that book? No, I read The Law 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: I think it was The The Law City. Oh gosh, 192 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting um something. Anyway, you like that book. I 193 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: haven't read that. One City of the White Monkey God 194 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: was the book I was. I read that that was 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: great too. I'm kind of uh, I'm kind of a uh, like, 196 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, explore but you're you're hitting on this because 197 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: of the Ernest Shackleton. Yes, I have not read this, 198 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: this book at all that we were talking about off 199 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the air so they just found it's been over a 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: hundred years since the ship sank two miles beneath the 201 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: surface of the water in Antarctica. The book Endurance is incredible. 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: It's about the Shackleton Voyage, a Shacklin voyage at the 203 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: time nineteen fourteen, right before really right at the early 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: stage of World War One. I think it might have 205 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: been a few weeks before a few weeks after I 206 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: think I forget. But anyway, nineteen fourteen, whole world is 207 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: watching this thing play. It supposed to make their way 208 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: across all of Antarctica, and they get stuck in an 209 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: ice pack on this ship. And you got to assume 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: these guys are an argue. This is pre cell phone battery, 211 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: pre you know, pre phone. I mean, and these guys managed. 212 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to give stuff away. It's just 213 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: a great read. I mean, if whether you're cuddling up 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: next to the fireplace with a glass of scotch or 215 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you're on a hammock on a warm day, reading about 216 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: what these guys went through, you'd be like, at least 217 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't have to go through that. So Endurance is 218 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: the book, and they just found the ship. It's actually 219 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: well preserved. I've never recommended this book to anyone. Clay 220 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: who wasn't like, that's a great read. I need to 221 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: read it. You were talking to me with talking about 222 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: it off air with me, And I also love reading 223 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: those books because to your point, you're hanging out by 224 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: your fireplace or you're in a hammock, it just brings 225 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: home how small. And this is why I think studying 226 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: history is so significant in many ways because it brings 227 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: home how frequently we get obsessed with relatively small challenges 228 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: when we've overcome massive challenges as a country. Yeah, imagine 229 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: trying to chase an elephant seal with a harpoon across 230 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: an ice flow. It's month four and you've dropped thirty pounds? 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Are abaty? You know what I mean? Like, that's a 232 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: tough day. Yeah, it's a little bit tougher than than 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: some of the challenges that we are told every day 234 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: are overwhelming in this country. My iPhone, my iPhone freezes, 235 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Clay and I have a panic attack. It freezes for 236 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: five seconds, and it's five seconds of hell Sunday Sizzle 237 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: with Clay in Buck. Welcome back to Clay Anne Buck. 238 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: We are joined by Dana Perino. You all know her, 239 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: former White House Press Secretary, host of The Five and 240 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: America's Newsroom on the Fox News channel, and New York 241 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Times bestselling author. Her latest book is Everything Will Be Okay? 242 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: And Dana, I guess I could just start with that 243 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: one because I don't know. Right now with the Biden administration, 244 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of things might not be 245 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: okay exactly. Let's why the title hooks you in because 246 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: everybody wants to know is she serious? But I am serious. Yes, 247 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I know that it sometimes feels I mean every day 248 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I wake up and I think, surely they're going to 249 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: get their act together, and no, no they don't. Dana, 250 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: First of all, it's great to have you on the 251 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: show for the first time. You came down to Nashville. 252 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Your book is fantastic. We had a good time my 253 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: wife and I did hanging out with you and your 254 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: husband some So you need to come to town soon. 255 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: What has the experience been for you, like, Because you 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: have such great relationships with people in the music industry 257 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: as a part of your job, what impresses you. You 258 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: get to talk to a lot of people on Fox 259 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: News every day, but that seems to also translate into 260 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, particularly with country music. What do you 261 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: think the overlap is between country music and Fox News 262 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: and why are those two groups so comfortable. It's a 263 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: great question. Interestingly, I started in radio. I was a 264 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: country music DJ. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, working 265 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I worked overnights for minimum wage because back then, if 266 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to get into television, you had to start 267 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: in radio. So I thought, well, I want to do 268 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: my radio experience now during college. So casecy FM was 269 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: gracious enough to let me give it a try, and 270 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: so I grew up with nineties country, and I love 271 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties countries so much. Then I was at the 272 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: White House for almost eight years, I only listened to 273 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: radio talk radio, everything from Rush Limbaugh of course to 274 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: NPR because we were I relate. I still believe that 275 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: radio is king when it comes to public communications. I 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: think it's just absolutely critical. Of course, cable news we 277 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: agree as well. But I think I know you do, 278 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: but it really is true. If you really want to 279 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: make sure that people are hearing you, and you and you, 280 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: you two have found that you have a deep connection 281 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: with your audience. So I think that with country music 282 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: being so committed to the lyrics and the story, that 283 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: is one thing. The other thing is that you have 284 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people who start off in very humble beginnings. 285 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people go through a ton of disappointment 286 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: in Nashville in particular. Right, it's just you try, and 287 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: you try. I'm sure you've met people who have written 288 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: songs for seventeen years before they actually get a hit. 289 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: But there is magic in the climb and in the 290 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: stories of resilience. And I also really admire how closely 291 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: knit the country music industry is. I know there are 292 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: exceptions to the rule, but for the most part, there's 293 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of support. And I feel the same way 294 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: at Fox News. I really love the team that we have, 295 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: and so I hope that that transmits to our viewers 296 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: and to their listeners. I hope. What do you think 297 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: about the way the media landscape may change here, Dana 298 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: with I think just today it was reported that Elon 299 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: Musk is going to be the interm CEO of Twitter, 300 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: So that's that is moving along. It feels like in 301 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: a variety ways. If that's obviously on the social media front, 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: but just the with the rise of all these different 303 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: digital digital platforms, Fox Nation obviously among them, that things 304 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: are changing and people have also realized that left wing 305 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: dominance of some of these platforms. Not only is it, 306 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: I think bad from a content perspective, it could be 307 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: bad for the country. So are you hopeful that we're 308 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: going to head into a better place in the near 309 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: future in terms of having more parody on the airwaves. 310 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I am hopeful. I'm also cautious I do remember when 311 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: I was righteous Press Secretary until the last day in 312 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: two thousand January two thousand and nine, when President Obama 313 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: was inaugurated, and on that day I didn't even have 314 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: a Twitter account or a Facebook account. And that's how 315 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: quickly from two thousand and nine to now, these platforms 316 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: have just grown so exponentially. I do think it's pretty 317 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: interesting just how few Americans are actually on Twitter, but 318 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: a lot of the media is on Twitter, and they're 319 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: reinforcing each other's viewpoints, and that is where I think 320 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: it got us into real trouble when I think the 321 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: best example is the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. 322 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: You just look back now, I think, how could that 323 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: possibly have happened? And now that story is aggressively in 324 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: the mainstream, and the New York Times is having to 325 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: quote the New York Post, so that is changing a 326 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm hopeful that Elon Musk can bring about 327 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: some change and at least maybe some sober mindedness, and well, 328 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: then we'll see, you know, how it goes. I'm also 329 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: one of the things I talked about in my book 330 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: is that social media can often be a drain on 331 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: your energy and it's not going to help you in 332 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: your career necessarily. So I'm encouraging young people to kind 333 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: of make a step back and be very mindful about 334 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: what they're posting because your future boss cannot unsee that. 335 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: There's no doubt the book. By the way, we're talking 336 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: to Dana Perino, she's on the Five. She's also America's 337 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: news Room, you know, or from Fox News. Everything will 338 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: be okay. That's what I was going to ask you 339 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: about is eight years that you spend in the White House. 340 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: You're talking about the different ways that you consume media. 341 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges I would imagine, whether you're 342 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: a Democrat, Republican, whoever you're serving and whoever you're working 343 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: for an administration, is trying to figure out what matters 344 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: in a day where everything is kind coming at you 345 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: in a fire hose effect. How much more difficult do 346 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: you think it is, no matter what job you have 347 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: in politics, to figure out what actually matters, what's actually true, 348 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: and how to manage your day on a day to 349 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: day basis today than it might have been ten or 350 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. That's very interesting, and I think a 351 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: lot of it comes from the top, So whoever that 352 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: leader is, the commander in chief, that person has instincts, right, 353 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: they got there for a reason. And I would say 354 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: I think that my boss George W. Bush was able 355 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: to do that. He would be able to say, all right, 356 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and we'll deal with this, but no one's going to 357 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: think about it in three weeks. So he had his 358 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: finger on the poll. And of course you have advisors 359 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: that tell you that President Trump is very good at 360 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: it because he knew. Now I don't think, and maybe 361 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: this is just a little bit of my own bias, 362 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: I don't think that President Obama or President Biden are 363 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: very good at it at all, because if they were, 364 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: then they wouldn't have such dismal polling numbers on the 365 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: question do that does President Biden care about the issues? 366 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: I care about? His numbers on that have been very 367 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: low from the beginning. And so, for example, everyone's talking 368 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: about inflation. What did they spend three days talking about 369 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: this week? Student loaned it? And then Rob, wait, yeah, 370 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: they're not talking about inflation. They're avoiding it and avoiding 371 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: the issue that you know everybody is dealing with every 372 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: day because they're going to the grocery store, the restaurant, 373 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: they're filling up at the gas tank and they're upset 374 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: about it, and they avoid that. And avoidance is not 375 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: a very good strategy, and it shows in their poll numbers. 376 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Dana Perino, former White House Press secretary, 377 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: best selling author her new book Everything Will Be Okay. 378 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a copy because I feel 379 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: like I go to bed every night thinking, oh my gosh, 380 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: what's the heck are you're going to come to? These 381 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: lives are out of their minds. The commies are running amuck. 382 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: But Everything will Be Okay? Is your book? You can 383 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: get on an Amazon. Dana. You are also, like me, 384 00:20:54,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: a dog lover and you is it as I want 385 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: to say, It's not a Wimern or is it a 386 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: wimern or what kind of dog do you have? It's 387 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: a cousin to the vimerun or it's a vishla very inversion. 388 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: So see, I'm always fascinated with this because like my family, 389 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: we have a French bulldog. I grew up with a 390 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Boston Terrier. These are very very common breeds. How did 391 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: you come upon because I'd say a probably like eighty 392 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: to ninety percent of our audience has a dog. I 393 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: would just throw that out there. I guess how'd you 394 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: come upon Vishla as the choice. I'm just curious. I've 395 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: always wanted to ask you this, and now I'm taking 396 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: my chants. Well, it's a great story. So I met 397 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: my husband on an airplane. He's eighteen years older than 398 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: me and British and I lived in DC at the 399 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: time and he was in England. We fell in love 400 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: on the plane. Believe it or not, it is true. 401 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: That was twenty five years ago, and I moved to 402 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: England and he wanted we both wanted a dog. He 403 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: wanted to get a black Lab, and I sort of 404 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: cringed at, you know, having to clean up all the 405 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: shedding of a black lab, even though I love all dogs. 406 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: And I really wanted a vimer Onner because I love 407 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: those William Wegman's photographs. If you're remember um, they were 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: in all the calendars and there were books about them 409 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: and greeting cards. So we just were in a hurry, 410 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: and we happened to be in Switzerland and Peter had 411 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: to visit a client. I got to go with them, 412 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: and we arrived and there was a three month old 413 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Vishla and then an eight year old Bishla and a 414 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: twelve year old Bishla. So it was like we saw 415 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: the progression of what a Vishla would look like. And 416 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: they're extremely affectionate and athletic, which I really like. And 417 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: we only have one code of first so they're quite 418 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: sleek looking. And that was it, you know, we fell 419 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: in love with the breed, and so we have now Percy. 420 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: He's our third My be's funny. My brother's dog is 421 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: named Percy. Um he's got a Pomeranian. Should Clay get 422 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: a Vishla for the boys? Data? Oh you know, I'm well, wait, 423 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: play what kind of dog do you have? Cat? Well, yeah, 424 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: this is this is a subject, Dana. We've got we've 425 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: got two Bengal cats, which are non shedding cats. My 426 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: wife is a huge cat person, and I don't I 427 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: don't think I told you this, Dana. But during the 428 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: shutdown and everything else, when the kids were out of school, 429 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Laura assigned them my wife one day to give me 430 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: a persuasive speech on why we had to get cats. 431 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: So my you know, then kindergartener, my fourth grader, and 432 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: my seventh grader, all one after the other, made a 433 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: speech on why we had to get cats, and by 434 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: the end of their persuasive speech, Dad had been outvoted. 435 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: And so we have two cats, and do you want 436 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: a dog? Uh? Look, I've got three kids, Dana. I 437 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: feel like they are like play They're they're like dogs 438 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: time ten in terms of the mess that they make. Yeah, 439 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: And do you know the thing is, as we get 440 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: closer to Mother's Day, the boys don't get blamed for 441 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: the messes as often as the dad does. It seems, 442 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, the apple may not fall far from the tree. 443 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: But but so our house is kind of chaotic at times. 444 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: I just have a I have a saying that I 445 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: made up that a boy needs a dog and a 446 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: dog needs a boy. But that in particular for boys 447 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: growing up with dogs, there's something about that companionship and 448 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: learning of the responsibility, and also they become more compassionate people. 449 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I think that's probably my own theory. It could be 450 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: a Vishla puppy in the Travis household. That's Uncle Buck's 451 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna show up with a dog sometimes. Yeah, you think 452 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: you're Gettiden gets indicted, Clay, You're getting a Vishla puppy, buddy. 453 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: That's how we're gonna do this Dana. By the way, Dana, 454 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say sorry to cut you off, Buck, 455 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: but I wanted to mention this for you. Dana reads 456 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: sports needs to be a regular part of you and 457 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Bill Himmer's show. By the way, I saw the clip 458 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: recently of you reading sports headlines, and I gotta tell 459 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: you that is gold and you guys need to break 460 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: it in as often as you can into the repertoire. 461 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: I will let the producer know. The reason it started 462 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: is because every Bill is very good at reading sports. 463 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: But after about six months of us working together, at 464 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: one point I said, you know, guys, I would love 465 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: a shot at reading sports and it became this hilarious thing. 466 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: And I don't pretend to know what I'm doing, but 467 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: I really try to give it my all. Yeah, thank 468 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: you for noticing. The book is It's all gonna be 469 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: all right. Everything will be all right. Dana Purno is 470 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the author. Go check it out. Dana, thanks so much 471 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. Great to have you on. 472 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: Congratulations to the two of you as well. Sunday hang 473 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck. You played in the Little League 474 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: World Series as a kid up in Williamsport, right, that's right. 475 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: And it was a type of thing where we at 476 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season in Dunedin, Florida, our motto 477 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: was WWT. We wrote that on the bottom of our hats, 478 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: and that was for we want Taiwan because Taiwan at 479 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: the time was the juggernaut and they would win the 480 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: Little League World Series I remember, and then not and 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: you know it. Then it then came out years later 482 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: that you know, they were winning twelve year old Little 483 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: League World Series with fourteen year olds, But nevertheless, that's 484 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: just the way it was, and so that was kind 485 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: of our goal. So we started from the district tournament 486 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: sectional state Southern Regional back then was Texas all the 487 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: way to Virginia in the entire southeast at thirteen states, 488 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: and there were only four American teams that would make 489 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: it back then, and so that was a huge, huge 490 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: undertaking and we made it and we didn't end up 491 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: playing Taiwan, but it was a heck of a ride. 492 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: And just as now as a parent, yeah, my kids 493 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: are five, four and two. So the two olds have 494 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: played t ball. Okay, they both like it and they're 495 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to do it probably going forward. But 496 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: you do appreciate how much the parents have to put 497 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: into these seasons. I mean, we were practicing every day. 498 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: You're traveling around the state for all these tournaments, and 499 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, all our parents had to work 500 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: and do all that stuff, but you basically go along 501 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: for the ride, and so you don't really have summer 502 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: vacation plans when you're in the heart of Little League 503 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: Summer baseball in the road to Williamsport preach it. I'm 504 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of that right now. Now, I'm curious, 505 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: do you still have VHS tapes of that run? When 506 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: was the last time you watched something from your Little 507 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: League World Series team? You guys ever have any reunions 508 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So I went last year. They 509 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: asked me to come for the Dunedin Little League closing 510 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: ceremonies and that was the anniversary. So this is twenty 511 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty one. It was the anniversary of our Little League 512 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: World Series run and I when they asked me to 513 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: do it, I'm like, yeah, man, I can't believe it's 514 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: been twenty years. So like, no, no, governor spent thirty years. 515 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, time flies. But so we 516 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: had some of my teammates were there and we were 517 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: able to do that, and then we were able to 518 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: speak to obviously all the current players and the families 519 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So that was a neat thing. And that 520 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: was the same fields that I played on back when 521 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I was a kid. Back then, we had Dunned National, 522 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: which is what I was. You also had done in 523 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: America and they've since added those. That's just one little 524 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: league now. But it's interesting. When I was eleven, Dunney 525 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: National we lost in three games and we were out 526 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: so very quick. All Stars. No, you didn't have really 527 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: much of a chance, but Dunned American was one game 528 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: away from Williams Sport. They lost in the Southern Regional Championships, 529 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: and that kind of gave us the notion that, hey, 530 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: maybe we can do it when when we're twelve, and 531 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: so we ended up doing that. But we had Dunned 532 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: an American one game away from going in nineteen ninety 533 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: and then Dunny National my team made it in nineteen 534 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: ninety one, so pretty incredible for one relatively small municipality. 535 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I think, by the way, you also played at Yale, 536 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: and if I'm not mistaken, George Bush, Senior wasn't he 537 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: the Yale baseball camp captain as well? Am I wrong? 538 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Or is that an overall he was? He was the 539 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Yale baseball captain in nineteen forty eight, and so he 540 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: had already served in World War Two and then went 541 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: to college after that, and back then Yale would go 542 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: to the College World Series. You know, they were they 543 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: were a good program. But the most iconic picture in 544 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: the history of Yale athletics is Babe Ruth coming to 545 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Yale Field to get an award from the Yale baseball team. 546 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: In George forty one gave Ruth the award, and Ruth 547 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: he died within like a year, so that was like 548 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: one of his last public appearances, and so that's something 549 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of reverberated. Now. I was the baseball captain 550 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and one there and it just so 551 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: happened to be Yale's three hundredth anniversary. So they did 552 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: this big jubilee in the spring to kind of celebrate that, 553 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: and Bush forty one was kind of the featured speaker, 554 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: so he was in town for that and he asked 555 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: to come and meet with the baseball team, and so 556 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to go out to practice. So 557 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Yale Field is not on the Yale campus. You kind 558 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: of got to take a bus. It's in West Haven, Connecticut, 559 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: and so you go. They'd run buses from the athletic 560 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: department out there. So I'm getting ready to go on 561 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: the bus. No different any other practice. The athletic director 562 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: yells from me. He's like, hey, are you are you 563 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: going to go out to practim again? He said, get 564 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: out there, hurry up. But I'm like it was weird. 565 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: Why would you do you care with it? So people 566 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: are like asking me about practice, like it was this 567 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: big deal. Why get out there to the field. And 568 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: there's all these guys with suits and the earpieces in 569 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of like in the bullpen area, and I'm looking 570 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: at myself. I'm like, this is really where? So my 571 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: coach called me over and he's like listen, he's like, 572 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: you see those guys out there with the suits their 573 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: secret service agents. George Bush forty one is here. He's like, 574 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: you tell all those guys before he comes here, do 575 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: not drop any F bombs in full the former president. 576 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: And so I was like okay, I but he came 577 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: out and basically just started, you know, talking about you know, 578 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: our season and everything like that. But I thought that 579 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: that was really that was really nice of him to 580 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: be interested in coming out there. And this is a 581 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: guy that obviously had had done a lot in his life, 582 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: and he was a really nice guy. And at that point, 583 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, I was somebody. You know, I was a 584 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: blue collar kid from the Tampa Bay area. I end 585 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: up there playing baseball, but I had never really met 586 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: anyone that was that was that well known, and so 587 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of an interesting thing. But since I 588 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: was the captain, I welcome him. The Yale field introduced 589 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: him to the team and we had, you know, we 590 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: kind of had a powwell session there all the way 591 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and one. Are there pictures of 592 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: that or video of that. I don't think I've seen it. 593 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. There definitely our pictures somewhere. So 594 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: it was the local paper in New Haven, the New 595 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Haven Register was there and they were taking pictures. And 596 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: so I remember after that happened, one of the guys 597 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: in the athletic departments like, you need you should get 598 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: that picture. Send it to him. He'll sign it to 599 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: you and give it back. But you know, I was 600 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: I was graduating. I had all this stuff going on, 601 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: so I just never did it. So so they are 602 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: out there somewhere. They may not be on the Internet, 603 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: but but they're definitely there, probably within the newspaper's archives. 604 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: There you go, apb I bet we've got people who 605 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: could track that down. We'll see if we can find 606 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: somebody out there to find that. Now, by the way, well, 607 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: how would you assess your baseball if you were a scout? 608 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: What would you have said about Ron De Santis college 609 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: baseball player? How would you have assessed your game? You know? 610 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean I was a good Division one player. I 611 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: think I hit three thirty six my senior year. I 612 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: always hit in him. I was a four year starter. 613 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I always hit in the middle of the line up, third, fourth, fifth, 614 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: I stole I think my coach actually, I had him 615 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: come when I was running for governor and I had 616 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: him do We did a rally and I had a 617 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: bunch of people just speaking. People I knew from the 618 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: military or Congress were like, hey, you know, congressman to 619 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Santa's great guy, here's what I know about. Well, he 620 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: spoke about about coaching me and everything, and he had 621 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the crowd in the palm of his hand. He's like 622 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: five hundred activists down in Boca ratone and he said, now, listen, 623 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: people asked me, it was a good player. Here's what 624 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: I'd say. I calculated his career stats, and I calculated 625 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Bush forty one's career stats, and Congressman to Santists hit 626 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: one hundred points higher than George Bush forty one, and 627 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: everyone started to happen about that. So, seeh it was fun, 628 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: but it was interesting. The guy that succeeded me as 629 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: captain of the Yale baseball team was a fellow named 630 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: Craig Breslow, who was a left handed pitcher from Trumbull, Connecticut, 631 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and he got drafted I think like the fifteenth twentieth round. 632 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: He got released after a year or two, but then 633 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: he got hooked up with an independent ball He started 634 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: throwing in the low nineties, hands up in Double A 635 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: with the Padres and Lo and behold, as a left 636 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: handed pitcher throw in ninety two, you know, you're one 637 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: call away from the big league. So he ends up 638 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: in the big leagues a few years after he graduates 639 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: from Yale, and he ended up playing twelve years forward 640 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: to me getting elected to Congress in twenty twelve, and 641 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: people know that I'm friends with him, and they know 642 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: that we played together. So these these reporters would ask me. 643 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, your friend Craig Breslow playing baseball, you know, 644 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: for I think you may have been for the Red Sox. 645 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: Then he's like, he's like, why didn't you play in 646 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the major leagues. I was like, if you think I 647 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: was good enough to play in the major leagues and 648 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: I would choose Congress over the big leagues, you're nuts. 649 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I wouldn't be in Congress if 650 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: I could do it, so but it was interesting to 651 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: be able to see that, and he ended up having 652 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: a really good career, and I think other than Ron Darling, 653 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: he probably had the longest pro baseball career of anyone 654 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: that has played at Yale. The reason why I bring 655 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: up baseball obviously, and I appreciate you coming on with 656 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: us here as we get ready for Memorial Day weekend. 657 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you can share your Memorial Day weekend plans with 658 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: your family and whatnot as well. But you've got baseball 659 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: cards that are out and you're raising money, which I 660 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: think is a really cool idea based on autographing those 661 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: baseball cards and it's a limited edition. Explain where the 662 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: idea came from, what is on these cards, how people 663 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: can get them? Well, Clay, we've sold so much merchandise. 664 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, people love the merchandise. We have Fauci pound 665 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: sand flip flops. We have t shirts that have all 666 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: the lockdown libs that have visited Florida and all this stuff. 667 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: And it's fun and we raise money and it helps 668 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: spread the message, which you're like, you know, maybe we 669 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: should do some stuff that people would actually be able 670 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: to keep as a memento. And so, just growing up, 671 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: I did the baseball cards. And so what we decided 672 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: to do is we have a normal baseball card, so 673 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: it's me in college, a picture of that, and that's 674 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: numbered one to five hundred, just typical card. Then we 675 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: have numbered one to twenty five, an autograph version, and 676 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: then we have numbered one to ten an autograph with 677 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: a relic. So they actually cut up my old pair 678 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: of black boots and they put a piece of that 679 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: in there, because that's what they do nowadays. They can 680 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: tell ye of a bat or a jersey or all 681 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: that stuff. So we ended up doing that and so 682 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: are those are being something you know, people are doing, 683 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, thousands of dollars for the relic autographs, so 684 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: we have that we're also going to do. So when 685 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: my staff was like, Governor, we need to get those boots. 686 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: They need to do it to make the cards, I'm 687 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: rummaging through my closet and I found a handful of 688 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: pairs of these old desert Canny boots for when I 689 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: served in Iraq, and so I'm thinking to myself, Okay, 690 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: well maybe we do something with that. So we're gonna 691 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: also debut in the Nazo Distant Future a Governor de 692 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Santis Iraq War edition where I'm in there in the 693 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: desert fatigues, and they're going to do the relic is 694 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: going to be pieces of the desert cammy boots that 695 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: I wore when I was deployed back in two thousand 696 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: and seven. So those will also be an autograph. I 697 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: think those will be numbered one to ten. So you know, 698 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: these are people that they want to contribute, they want 699 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: to help the cause, and that's great. And you know 700 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: people can go to like my website, Ron de Santis 701 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: dot com and just give and that's fine and people 702 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: do it. But for them to be able to get 703 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a memento. I think people really 704 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: like it, and we are these are limited that we're 705 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: not going to just produce a bunch of them because 706 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: they lose their value. So any collector could know we're 707 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: very sensitive to making sure that these are limited editions. 708 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite baseball card? Last question for 709 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: you when you were a kid growing up? Was there 710 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: one you were most proud to have? Did you collect? 711 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: Course nineteen eighty nine Ken Griffiju? My favorite two? My 712 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: favorite two? Say, I mean the first one that was 713 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: really big for me was the Don Mattingly nineteen eighty four, 714 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: Don Russ. I mean that was like the hottest thing 715 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: ever I had to find. I searched far and wide 716 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: to get that. I did get it. It wasn't in 717 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: great condition, but I did get it. But then when 718 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: the Griffy came out, I mean that was just there. 719 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: And so you know, I still have some of those 720 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: Griffis to have. Some of them are in very good condition. 721 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: I've got some PSA tens and so we're going to 722 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: just keep those. Um. You know, I would never I 723 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: don't think I could ever sell of im. It's just 724 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: it just is what it is, and so so yeah, 725 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of the the epic rookie 726 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: card