1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna talk about the Boston Red Sox right 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: now as mass lives. Chris Catilla joins us, Chris, how 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: you doing, man? And how are the Red Sox doing 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: after a week of their performance on the field while 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: watching what I gotta say it the Yankees are doing 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: on the field against their opponents. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine despite the sky falling around us here 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: in Boston. So fans are done. The season's over. It's 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: the worst five game losing streaking history of baseball. Now, 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's a small sample size, but they have 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: not looked good, especially in Houston. Lots of strikeouts, not 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: passing the baton, big time free agent addition, and Ranger 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Swarez struggling, big time trade edition and Sunny Gray struggling. 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: So if a team's ever needed an off day on 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: April second, it's today. And they start their home schedule tomorrow. 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: But definitely an ugly week after opening day, and I 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: think there are some real concerns that people are starting 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: to be worried about. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Like the offense. Is it the offense? The pitching's gonna 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: I firmly believe the pitching crochet pitch grade. He's gonna 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: be fine. I think, listen, Sonny Gray is a five 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: inning guy, so everyone's like all the way through four innings. 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: He's been basically a five inning guy the last few 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: years of his career, which is fine. Range Yah, The 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: Rangers going to be fine once he gets settled in Beyo. 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: They know what they have in Beyo. Early looked great 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: when he pitched right. So is it just offense that 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: they're worried about or is there something else we're missing. 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I think the strength of this team needs to be 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: run prevention pitching. You know, they built that roster around 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: it over the offseason. Bregman leaves, they pivot to Suarez. 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: They already have Gray, they acquired Oviedo, who they were 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: really high on, But to me, Gray didn't pitch grade 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: the other day. Suarez had a weird build up because 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: of the WBC, struggled a lot in spring training, and 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: then the other night in Houston, Avato seems lost his 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: velocities down. He's in a long man piggyback role and 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: you could see him getting optioned here in the next 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: few days. So if they don't figure out the rotation 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: and those pitchers, they're in real trouble. I think because 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: this is a team that's not built on pop, it's 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: not built on the big inning. It's a station to station, 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: put the ball in play offense. And we saw the 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: strikeouts really pile up, you know, against Hunter Brown, against 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: the Colors, against Burrows over the last couple of days. 46 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: So the offense I think we knew was going to 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: be maybe not clicking at the beginning as they kind 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: of find themselves with Roman Anthony as the featured piece, 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: and how Contreras fits in Durban, who's over eighteen, how 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: he fits in. They think the pitching is going to 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: be a lot better, and it really has to be 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: because the first time, other than a good opening day 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: start from Crochet and a good one from Early, was 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: really lacking and it shows up in the record. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: How about their defense, which is directly tied to pitching. 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: You're pitching unless they strike out the world like Crochet 57 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: usually does, is tied to your defense. Like, is this 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: defense going to be what we're going to watch the 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: entire season? 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: It should be better than it was last year. Just 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: because Contreras has good numbers at first in a small 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: one year sample, Meyer has a chance to be elite 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: at second. Durbin at third is a guy they're comfortable 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: and comfortable with. He's been okay over there, and on 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: opening Day, They've had lapses, some throwing errors from the catcher, 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: some things here and there. Really haven't been fully locked 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: in over this six game stretch. But I think the 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: defense in general is going to be a little bit 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: better or a lot better than it was in previous 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: years where they were cycling through so many guys at 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: second and so many guys were coming up, and first 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: base was a mess. And I think it has to 73 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: be with a guy, you know, like Suarez in the rotation, 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: lots of weak contact Gray, same thing. They have no choice. 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: Really, Do we ever. 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: Find out why Narvaia's got benched? Does that ever come out? 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: Why he was not in the lineup? Do we know 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: the reason for that because that was odd so early 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: into the year. 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and that is I can't take full blame 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: because I wasn't in Houston on the trip. So I 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: will be digging as the weekend goes on, as everybody 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: on the beat will be. What I'd say about Carlos 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Narvaas is he is one of the most well like 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: guys they have in there. Super friendly, super good teammate, 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: a guy everybody likes. Work ethic not an issue at 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: all as a rookie. To me, it was a little 88 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 2: bit strange that he was the guy that got pulled 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: out of the lineup and made an example of yesterday. 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: I have to wonder if he was late, or if 91 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: he missed a meeting or anything like that. I do 92 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: think it behooves the team or any team in this 93 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: situation scenario to just say it, because we're getting text 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: from scouts like, hey, what's going on here, what's going on? 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: What's going on? If they just said, hey, he was 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: late or he missed a meeting, it could kind of 97 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: put some theories to bed. But to me, the earliness 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: of it, as you mentioned, I think is kind of 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: the striking part. You don't see managers do this super often, 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: where they pull a guy and say kind of the 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: reason why that it was a disciplineary their manager's decision. 102 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: I think that might speak to Alex Corraz trying to 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: get to this group a little bit and telling them 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: to lock in. We're in the regular season, it's not 105 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: spring training anymore. They had an instance the night before 106 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: where they as a team didn't know the count. They 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: cost themselves a beyo strikeout. So there have been lapses 108 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: and I think they're trying to get out ahead of 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: that a little bit. But no, we don't know the 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 2: exact reason for this one. 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: Well, you're saying, so Alex Korra possibly had to keep 112 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: the young guys under control, like if they had somebody 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: in their lineup or something like that that was like 114 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: a leader that was played say third base and had 115 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: the initials AB. Do you feel like it was something 116 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: that Alex Cora has noticed all spring training that hey, 117 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: who's going to be this veteran leader. Maybe I don't 118 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: see it, and I need to step up and possibly 119 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: be that guy as the manager of the team. 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: They really have that in Trevor's story, you know story 121 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: and Bregman really kind of co led from the position 122 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: player perspective. Last your story is super well respected in there, 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: and I think is, at least of the position player 124 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: group the clear captain, with Roman Anthony even at twenty one, 125 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: taking on more of a role there, which is a 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: scary thing. He's so young, he doesn't have that much 127 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: time in the big leagues, but he's so mature that 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: they trust him to do that again. I don't know 129 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: the real true reasons behind this Narvallas sting. It just 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: speaks to Coorra saying, hey, if there's any lapses, they're 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: going to end week one and I'm going to send 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: a message to the group. He clearly did that. I 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: can only remember Alex Verdugo, I guess two or three 134 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: years ago getting benched and pulled out of a lineup 135 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: for a couple of different things. That was very well 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: covered some of the stuff that him and Korra were 137 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: feuding over at times. I can't remember another instance where 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: just randomly Korra does this. And you guys know, managers 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: can cover for anybody, Oh he has a tight hamstring, 140 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: or he's under the weather, even if it is a 141 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: disciplinary thing. Here it was pretty clear there's no injury, 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: there's nothing physical, but something happened where he's out of 143 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: the lineup. Nip it in the butt. 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Where's Tristan cass I know he had 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: a setback on his ribs. I thought he was recovering 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: from a knee problem. What's going on there? Because that's 166 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: somebody the Red Sox fans have been banging the drum 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: for for years. This guy can be this, and this 168 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: guy can be that, and he's going to be our 169 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: next great player, but he gets hurt all the time 170 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: and it sucks. And but then he puts on the 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: show with all the stuff he does, you know, not 172 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: when he's not playing right. So when are we going 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: to get to see, excuse me, the real Tristan Casses 174 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: show up. 175 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's a make or break 176 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: year for him, And in a way, it's kind of 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: already on the break side of that because they went 178 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: out and they said, we're not going to keep this 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: seat warm for you. We're gonna go out and get 180 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: Wilson Cantreras to be our full time first baseman. He's 181 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: under control for this year next year in an option 182 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: for a third year, So that's kind of a sign 183 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: to Casas like, just get healthy. We'll figure it out, 184 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: but we can't rely on you as the everyday first base. 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: The two injuries he had were two freak things. The 186 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: ribcage two years ago the pateeller tendon last year, which 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: is a very serious thing. He was progressing really pretty 188 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: well to the point where he was hoping to be 189 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: on a rehab assignment around opening day. He got hurt 190 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: on May second of last year, and it's a year 191 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: long recovery, so he was a little ahead of schedule, 192 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: and then something happened where he pulled a muscle or 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: came up with some soreness swinging the bat and trying 194 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: to get that rib area back to one hundred percent. 195 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: As any player would know, and I'm certainly not one 196 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: of them, but I've been told when you are hurt, 197 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: it's not just the area you're rehabbing, it's obviously getting 198 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: back into game shape with everything else. And so that's 199 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: why you see setbacks across different players, different body parts. 200 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: But this doesn't seem to be something that's going to 201 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: keep him out extra months, but he still is far away. 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if he shut down from swinging right now, 203 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: take a couple weeks to do that, get in some 204 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: extended spring games, then get on a rehab assignment. What 205 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: the Red Sox have done for themselves is build in 206 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: that contingency where Contreras not a contingency but a replacement. 207 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: Really Contreras is at first he's going to be playing 208 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: there every day. They already have five guys for the 209 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 2: three outfield spots in the d H spot with Yoshida 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: and Anthony Duran, Rafaela and a braw so someone would 211 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: need to get hurt for Casas to really have a 212 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: role anyway, so they can slow play it a little bit. 213 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: But he's definitely had a crossroads, no question about that. 214 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: You mentioned You just mentioned will you or Abrad the 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: lone positive piece in this lineup. He's been crushing since 216 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 4: the season started. He was crushing into WBC. Is there 217 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: an indication or was there an indication coming into camp 218 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: before the WBC that he had made a change that 219 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: would say, okay, this is going to take him to 220 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: the next level as a hitter where he already is 221 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: as a two time goal glove winner. 222 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really excited about him from day one. 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: He came in looking trimmer and more athletic. Last year 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: he had slimmed down, but because he had a horrible 225 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: case of the flu when he got to camp like 226 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: a gastro thing, he wasn't a healthy leaner. This year, 227 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: he really was. He was smoking the ball in early 228 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: spring before he went to the WBC. Was obviously really 229 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: good there. This is a guy that had a similarly 230 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: really hot start last year then cooled down and got 231 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: hurt a couple times, and that has been what's happened 232 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: with him here and there. But they want him to 233 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: face lefties, which has been something he has not done. 234 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: Because if he's doing that, he's in the field for 235 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: every inning and right field and that's very valuable, especially 236 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: at Fenway where it's so spacious. This is a guy 237 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: that really could be, you know, a running mate for 238 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Anthony in the lineup if Anthony truly is that star 239 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: that they envisioned him to be, and a guy that 240 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: I think is going to turn heads and you see it. 241 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, they barely scored over the first six games, 242 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: but he's got three homers. He's tearing the cover off 243 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: the ball already. They were excited about him from the 244 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: start of camp and they still are. 245 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: Chris, what would make Red Sox fans happy? How would 246 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: we get them all off the ledge? How would we 247 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: get the mass holes all off the ledge? The Patriots 248 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: they were good this year, the Celtics are doing their thing. 249 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: What can make the Red Sox faithful get off the ledge? 250 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: If they go and win three games this weekend, if 251 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: they sweep this weekend, will they be like, oh, we're 252 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: just kidding, We're fine. 253 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I if I knew the answer 254 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: to that question, I'd probably run my Twitter account in 255 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: a different way. Uh be able to figure it out 256 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: over time with readership. But a good homestand would go 257 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: a long way. The thing that I think is tricky 258 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: for them is they have a pretty tough schedule early. 259 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: The Padres this week. Michael Kang will be who they 260 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: face tomorrow at Fenway, So the Padres for three, the 261 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: Brewers for three, with Woodruff and miss Rowski coming into Fenway. 262 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: I would say, you know, a winning homestand and going 263 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: on the road against two probably inferior opponents in Saint 264 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: Louis and Minnesota, that would be a good start, but 265 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: just cleaner baseball, better performances from some individuals. You know, 266 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: a guy that's getting a lot of heat right now 267 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: is Durbin, oh for eighteen story is striking out a lot. 268 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: As I said, Suarez and Gray struggle. A good start 269 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: from Gray tomorrow would be a good start. It's one 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: in five, it's not one in forty. But I think 271 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: the off day today will help in coming home. There's 272 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: no letup because there's just you know, two really good 273 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: opponents waiting for them. But the pomp and circumstance and 274 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: baseball at Fenway makes everyone happy, even though there is 275 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: a huge Monster energy ad that's now on the Green 276 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: Monster Apparently that's been the focus of the last twenty 277 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: minutes on Twitter. Once you get past stat home cooking 278 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: should help them. 279 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: And Don Rozillo, Don, is she going to get a 280 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: standing ovation? Is she going to get a montage? Because 281 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: I was there the first game he came back and 282 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: he got a montage. It was a surprise. He almost 283 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: started crying in the booth. But Don Riscilla has a 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: special place in Red Sox fans heart, so hopefully he 285 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: gets something tomorrow. 286 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're ten years into that storyline and Red 287 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: Sox fans are still as pissed off about it as 288 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: they were on day one. But it's a reunion weekend 289 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. Bogarts hasn't played here since 290 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,359 Speaker 2: he left. He was hurt the first time, so that's intriguing. 291 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Walker Buehler coming back and pitching over the weekend. Nick 292 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: Covett is not going to pitch, but he'll be here, 293 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: so there's some crossover with the teams and it should 294 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: be an interesting series. I got a lot of Interer 295 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: League play early, which is a little different than you'd 296 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: be used to. 297 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like a clever marketing player. People pissed because 298 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: they don't want anything historic to be touched. 299 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: I just saw it for the first time. It's it's 300 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: a little big I would say energy or it were you? 301 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Were you by AI at thirty, It's time to hang 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: it up. Okay, we'll see people. 303 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: Fool I got some people yesterday. 304 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: It is the second, right, it is a second so 305 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: that would just be cool. All right, Well, keep an 306 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: eye on it. Chris, you're the man. Thank you for 307 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: joining us. Great to catch up with you. More work 308 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: from Chris on his Penway Rundown podcast and of course 309 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: on masslab dot com with all of his articles. 310 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: Follow him on x as well. 311 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 6: Thanks Chris, Thanks guys, appreciate it. All right, let's talk Marlins. 312 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Isaacazook joining us right now from Fish on First and 313 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: you can listen to Fish on First podcasts part of 314 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: the FT Network. 315 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: We love having them as part of the fam. 316 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: Isaac. 317 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Great to have you back on man, Good to see you, 318 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: and good times for the Marlin so far in their 319 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: first week of the season. What are you seeing that's 320 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: working well for them? 321 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 322 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 7: Five and one start Before the season started, I sort 323 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 7: of targeted the bullpen as a strength of this team, 324 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 7: and they've only allowed Warner and run in seventeen and 325 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 7: two thirds innings. But I mean, I think you can 326 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 7: not point at, excuse me, Liam Hicks and Samuel Contra 327 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 7: their starts with the season, and I don't think even 328 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 7: Peter Bendix expected this from Liam Hicks. It was just 329 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 7: great to see all the all the work that Liam 330 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 7: put in the off season to swing a little bit faster, 331 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 7: get a little stronger, and to see it paid dividends 332 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 7: right away is really awesome. 333 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: Is the pitching the greatest pitching of all time? Sorry, Scott, 334 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: you're good pitching. No, because the pitching all I've heard about. 335 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: I've been yelled at on Twitter that the pitching. And 336 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: by the way, they played the Rockies in the White Sox. 337 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: No offense to the Rockies and the White Sox, but 338 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: they played the Rockies in the White Sox and the 339 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: White Sox hammered them one game. Just saying, the White 340 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Sox have one win and it was against the marlw 341 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: So let's not get too excited over there. But is 342 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: the pitching the greatest pitching of all time. By the way, Sandy, 343 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: ninety three pitch complete games. Pretty awesome. 344 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know about the greatest pitching of all time. 345 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 7: You mentioned the competition, but you know what, Hey, the 346 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: Rockies went out and beat one two out of three 347 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 7: in Toronto, and the White Sox had a pretty good 348 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 7: opening series in Milwaukee. And the White Socks have a 349 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 7: little bit of offense in that lineup. 350 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Whoao. The White Sox had 351 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: a pretty good series. They got swept well. 352 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: In Milwaukee, was an amazing series. 353 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: Thanks well. 354 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 7: To answer your question, Sandy, We'll focus on Sandy because 355 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 7: he really has looked fantastic and he since twenty twenty two. 356 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 7: I have not seen this side of him in a while. 357 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 7: This was vintage Sandy. He's averaging just about ten pitches 358 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 7: an any He's not gonna rack up the strikeouts. He's 359 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 7: gonna pitch to weak contact right away, and he's done 360 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 7: a fantastic job without sixteen scoreless innings to begin his season. 361 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 7: We saw glimpses of it last year in the second 362 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 7: half after a really uneven first half coming back from 363 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 7: Tommy John, but this is something different. You could see 364 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 7: it in just the way he's executing his pitches. He's 365 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 7: you going back to sinker, changeup with the occasional slider 366 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 7: and sweeper. It's just vintage sand. You could see it 367 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 7: on his face. We have not seen that smile on 368 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 7: his face in a long time, and this yesterday's complete 369 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 7: game shutout meant a lot to him. 370 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 5: You could tell, all. 371 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: Right, well, the guy behind the dish, Liam Hicks. You 372 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: talked about that, You talked about his fast start. I 373 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 4: actually one of my assistant coaches on my baseball team 374 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: worked with Liam all off season down at the Cressey Institute. 375 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: Is it something that the Marlins pushed him to do 376 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: or is it something that he took upon himself and said, Okay, 377 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: this is what I need to do to be the guy. 378 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: Because a lot of people were looking at like Augustine 379 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: Ramirez is a guy that would be that guy in 380 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: that position early on. Here, Hicks has proven that he 381 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: should be he should have that spot. 382 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, something the Marlins have been focusing on is really 383 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 7: just increasing bat speed, right, And I think with certain 384 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 7: guys it doesn't make too much sense. But you look 385 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 7: at a guy like Liam Hicks, who was just ninety 386 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: eight percentile and chase rate. He puts the ball in play, 387 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 7: he gets on base, and if he's someone they could get, 388 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 7: you know, a little bit of more power in that bat, 389 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 7: which is what he worked on in the offseason. Like 390 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: you said, that's all of a sudden, a really valuable 391 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 7: commodity who was someone who's really a good catcher as well, 392 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 7: who caught Sandy's complete game yesterday like you mentioned. 393 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: And if he continues to put the ball in play. 394 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 7: And not chase pitches and have maybe ten to fifteen 395 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 7: home run power, you know, Miami may have something here. 396 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 7: And this was just a rule five big a couple 397 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 7: of years ago, if you remember correctly. So really nice 398 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 7: find by Peter Benda. I don't think he's gonna hit 399 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 7: thirty home runs this year. I don't think we can 400 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 7: expect the sixteen hundred ops forout the whole year. But 401 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 7: it's really exciting to see that Tanda behind the plate 402 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 7: in Ramirez and Hicks and just Jill Mack waiting behind 403 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 7: the wings. 404 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: All right, stop being such a hater. He can hit 405 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 4: thirty homers and he can have a sixteen hundred ops. Okay, 406 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: because everybody's all smiles down in Miami either like seven 407 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: to eight people that watched him play so far. So 408 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: is this five and one start a facade? And is 409 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: it covering up the things that weren't addressed in the 410 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: absolute negative offseason, besides Pete Fairbanks that they had. 411 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 7: I think a really good test is gonna be this 412 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 7: weekend in the Bronx. They're gonna have a really tough 413 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: situation there. They're gonna have to face Max Freed, They're 414 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 7: gonna have to face wil Warren, and they're gonna have 415 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 7: to face old friend Ryan Weathers. It's gonna be Yuri 416 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 7: Perez and Chris Pattick and Max Meyer for Miami. And 417 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 7: So to answer your question, do I think they're gonna 418 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 7: be having an eight hundred win percentage of the whole year. 419 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 7: I don't think so. But I do think that it'd 420 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 7: be silly to not take these first six games and 421 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 7: put a little bit more than a grain of salt 422 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: on it, because you know, like we said, the Rockets 423 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 7: went into Toronto and they won two out of three 424 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 7: against the defending American League champions, and they were it 425 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 7: wasn't easy. Like you mentioned, the White Sox put up 426 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 7: eight runs against them, and I think that if you 427 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 7: see the Miami Marlins take at least one or maybe 428 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 7: two out of three in New York, then they face 429 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 7: the Reds at home, then they go to Detroit. I 430 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 7: think after fourteen games or so, you'll get a proper 431 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 7: gauge of what this team can really be. And I 432 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 7: think at this point in twenty twenty six, after the 433 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: year that they had last year, winning eighty games seventy 434 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 7: nine games to be exact, you're gonna see them add 435 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 7: at the deadline, if they're anywhere near the postseason race, 436 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 7: you're gonna see them at significant talent to this roster 437 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 7: come trade deadline in July. 438 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: Really, oh, I was gonna ask something completely different, but 439 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: not wait what repeat that again? What you just said. 440 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 7: I think that there's a strong possibility that when Miami, 441 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 7: when and if Miami is within five hundred, within you know, 442 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 7: striking distance of a postseason spot, you will see them 443 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 7: sort of attack the deadline similar to what they did. 444 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty three. 445 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 7: They brought in Jake Berger, they brought in Josh Bell, 446 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 7: they brought in David Robertson. I don't think you're going 447 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 7: to see the same sort of attack on the farm 448 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 7: system that Kim Aying did because Peter Bennixy knows what 449 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 7: he's doing. 450 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 5: But I do think you're going to see some talent 451 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: added to the. 452 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: Roster like payroll. Yes, well wait, hold on now earpieces. 453 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 3: I think my earpiece is broken. Hold on, let me 454 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: into my good ear Wait. What was challenge? Challenge? 455 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 5: No? 456 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: No, hold on, I'm gonna tap me in, tap me in. 457 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: They didn't spend it all in the off season, and 458 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: there were articles and they were heading in I know, 459 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: but they do have to spend a little because the 460 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: blackouts coming up, and they have to show that they 461 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: tried a little bit more on the financials since they're 462 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: getting more money and share than what they're funding. 463 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 5: Season. Yeah, you take on a name or two. 464 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think if they would have done that 465 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: in the off season, they wouldn't have to worry about it. 466 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Just I mean that. 467 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 7: I think following the one there's clarity on the collective 468 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 7: bargaining agreement, you're gonna see some spending in free agency. 469 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 7: I think until this year didn't make much sense to 470 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 7: do it. I think you saw them sign thirteen million 471 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 7: dollars for Pete Fairbanks. You saw them have to sign 472 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 7: a couple of other guys, two minor deals, I will admit, 473 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 7: but I think these next couple of seasons, whether there's 474 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 7: a cap or a floor or whatever the case may be, 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: you're gonna see them. I don't think they're gonna be 476 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: signing the Cal Tuckers of the world. I'll be honest 477 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 7: with you, but I think there is an avenue in 478 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 7: which they could spend more money than they have in 479 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 7: years previous. 480 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: All right, well, then, right off of that, let's go 481 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: to Sandy's comments post complete games. Sandy's been here forever, 482 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: and maybe it feels like we're just attacking Marlins fans, 483 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: but it's so recncy biased by me watching the WBC 484 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: in that electric stadium. AJ's been there, people behind the 485 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: scenes on our show have been there, and it's electric. 486 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: And Sandy says this after a complete game. Hey, you 487 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: know what for the guy for people who didn't show 488 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: up or not many of them showed up, or whatever 489 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: it was. Can this change be caught without what you 490 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: just said, that's spending at the break or spending in 491 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: the off season. 492 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 493 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: I found Sandy's comments interesting. I put out a tweet 494 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: about it earlier. 495 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: I pure speculation, but I think it was a well 496 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 7: orchestrated maneuver by the Marlins to have him sort of 497 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 7: say that because Miami can't say that. But if it 498 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 7: comes from your star pitcher, maybe it comes out a 499 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: little bit better. And yeah, I think the Marlins were 500 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 7: a little bit disappointed with the turnout, not only just 501 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 7: for the White Sox Series, which is during the week 502 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 7: but games two and three over the weekend. Unfortunately, they 503 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 7: had a little bit of competition to deal with. They 504 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 7: had Ultra Music festival going out right here in downtown Miami. 505 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 7: The President was here speaking at the Fayina Hotel in 506 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 7: Miami Beach. You had concerts going on at the Cassea 507 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 7: Center in downtown. So I think not only that, you 508 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 7: just had some fans that were maybe uneasy about driving 509 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 7: and all that traffic, which is just not a good 510 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: excuse if you ask me. And then, yeah, the White 511 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 7: Sox series was six thousand per game around and I 512 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 7: think they sort of hinted, hey, maybe if it comes 513 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 7: from our. 514 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: Ace pitcher, that'll help out a little bit. 515 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 7: I think another factor also for the low attendance could 516 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 7: be maybe a little bit of a baseball hangover coming 517 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: from that WBC that you mentioned maybe thirty six thousand 518 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 7: every single day for ten days straight in that tournament. 519 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: Maybe there's a little bit of a hangover there. 520 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but I hope that the fans come 521 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 7: out a little bit more for that Red Series that 522 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 7: starts next week, because I think Miami was a little 523 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 7: bit disappointed with the turnout. 524 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: Wait, but they've never done They've never drawn. No, that's 525 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: my thing. I mean, obviously it's like why what because 526 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 3: everyone says Miami, listen. I'm a Florida guy. I love baseball. 527 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: I grew up playing baseball. I was when I grew up, though, 528 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: the Marlins were I was about to graduate high school, 529 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: the Marlins appeared. The Rays weren't a thing, right, so 530 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: team they always got bigger crowds for the Yankees and 531 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: the Mets and the Red Sox and whoever else. It 532 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: was a visiting crowd. But now they've been here for 533 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: over thirty years. Why is the Marlins so dry and 534 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: the only thing? And people ask me, and I say, well, 535 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: the stadium's on a great spat. The stadium's inside, so 536 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get a game. It's not in 537 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: a great spot. The parking kind of sucks, you know. 538 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: Could they put in a different spot, sure, but they 539 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: put it where they put it. Why. I just don't 540 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: understand why people they advertised. People know the Marlins are there. 541 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: It's not like it's a new product. Oh, the Marlins 542 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: are here. They came for WBC, So why do they 543 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: not come to these games? I can't figure. They've had 544 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: stars Stanton. I mean, they had a team with Stanton, 545 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: Rio Muto, Christian Yelich, right, Jose Fernandez they had. I 546 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: was there, I played against those guys. That was a 547 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: team they drew. Okay before that, you know, in the 548 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: old stadium when they won in ninety seven, two thousand 549 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: and three, they did draw a little bit. But why 550 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: is Miami not supporting baseball the way they should? 551 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 552 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 7: I wish I had the answer for you, because, like 553 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 7: you mentioned, they had Stanton chasing sixty, they had Jose 554 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 7: pitching every fifth day. They went to the postseason in 555 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three with a young team that added to 556 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 7: the roster at the deadline, and yet no one showed up. 557 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 7: People blame previous pr moves by the team. For example, 558 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 7: when Jeter bought the team, it was oh no, more 559 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 7: of the same when he traded all those stars. But 560 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 7: I think it's time for fans to just sort of, 561 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: you know, just realize that there's Major League Baseball being 562 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 7: played in your backyard. So if I was a team, 563 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 7: I think there's one thing that could maybe help you, 564 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 7: just make it more of a destination. We've all been 565 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: a wrigley Field, right Wrigleyville is just incredible to go 566 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 7: before the game, after the game. There's just a destination. 567 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: There's things to do around the ballpark. The Marlins aren't 568 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 7: working on that with the construction of Miami Live, which 569 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 7: should be ready towards the. 570 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: End of this offseason. 571 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 7: But I think years and years of continuity when it 572 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: comes with the President of Baseball Operations, Peter Bendix, when 573 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 7: it comes with the manager. This is my fifth year 574 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 7: on the beat, and this is already the third manager 575 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 7: that I've covered, So I think once you see continuity 576 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 7: both on the roster, in the management and in the 577 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 7: front office, along with some winning, which I think they're 578 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 7: going in that direction, that may equate to some more attendance. 579 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 5: I hope. 580 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Fox One Go 581 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: get that new app stream baseball, stream football, stream World 582 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: Cup action. 583 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: You'll be watching. 584 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: Oh definitely, I can't wait. 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From a business standpoint and 603 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: fan affinity standpoint, that model doesn't work if you're looking 604 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: for wins and losses. 605 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: It helps. 606 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Although we can make the case that the Rays haven't 607 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: actually won a World Series. They come close, but the 608 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: constant churn is not good for it's not creating an identity. 609 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I lived in Miami for a while, so I saw 610 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: what it takes there too, And the mix is you 611 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: have to have guys that are going to stay there 612 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: for a while that people know. Yes, Jose Fernandez, I mean, 613 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: we were just kind of scratching the surface of his impact. 614 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Of course, that's an impact that's only once per week 615 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: or so. So that's the one concern that I have 616 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: is will they create a team that's more competitive but 617 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: that isn't sexy enough for Miami. 618 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 7: That's a fantastic point. That is my concern as well, 619 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 7: because yeah, you could have a ninety win team every 620 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 7: single year like the Rays had, and yet people do 621 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 7: not show up to the trump. I think Miami has 622 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 7: a little bit of an advantage with their stadium. It's 623 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 7: a really nice, state of the art ballpark that is 624 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 7: in the middle of Little Havana. But that's that's not 625 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 7: Peter Bendix's concern. You could tell the way he's he's 626 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 7: handling this roster. He does not care about the pr 627 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 7: That is a line O'Connor's job the president of the Marlins, 628 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 7: and I think that department has done a better job 629 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 7: as of late with the ballpark experience, with the marketing, 630 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 7: with the social media. They have taken a step forward 631 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: in that department, no doubt about it. If you look 632 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 7: at their intro videos the last couple of years, it 633 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 7: was all AI. Now it's actually done by a really 634 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 7: fun team, and I think in that part they're doing better. 635 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 7: But no, I'm not sure if their model of constructing 636 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: a playoff caliber team that's sustainable the way they want 637 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 7: it to be is gonna equate to sell out crowds 638 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 7: at Lone Depot Park. We were hoping that this offseason 639 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 7: was going to turn into maybe an extension for Uri Perez, 640 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 7: maybe an extension for Jacob Marcy. 641 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: It didn't happen. 642 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 7: I think that's what we talked about the last time 643 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 7: I joined you guys. Maybe Joe Mack is that guy 644 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 7: that it could possibly extend to that Cooper Pratt type deal. 645 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but I agree some sort of continuity, 646 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 7: even if they it's against what they believe in the 647 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 7: upstairs department of the front office. I think you've got 648 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: to have some sort of face to put where fans 649 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: can know that they'll have one guy to root for 650 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 7: for the next eight years. 651 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: That was going to be my question about extensions. We 652 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: had Kyle Stowers on and he would like to stay, 653 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, in contract extension talks. He was an All Star. 654 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, that face is there. Is it 655 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: disappointing for fans when you see Cooper Pratt, when you 656 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: see Colt Emerson, when you see other organizations that don't 657 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: necessarily spend a ton there's ideas that Connor Griffin is 658 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: going to Does it hurt more when Marlon's fans see 659 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: that in other organizations and go, oh, we're worse than 660 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: the pirates with this stuff. 661 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's got to be frustrating if you're a Marlins fan, 662 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 7: right you see you know what's going on in Pittsburgh. 663 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 7: Even you see Milwaukee extending both Yelich and then everyone else. 664 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: And Miami had had some. 665 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 7: They do have some really good extension candidates, some attractive 666 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 7: extension candidates. I thought Uri Perez was the pinnacle of that. 667 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 7: A young sow a young right headed pitcher that has 668 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 7: all the stuff in the world and actually commands it 669 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: well and who probably wants to be here. 670 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: But I think they waited too long and now he's 671 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: out of. 672 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 7: Their price range, unfortunately, So that's why I would pivot 673 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 7: towards someone that. 674 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 5: Has not made their major league debut yet. 675 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 7: In Joe Mack, Jacob Marcy's already twenty four years old. 676 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 7: I found that peculiar from the get go, so I 677 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 7: didn't know if that made too much sense anyway. And 678 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 7: then Kyle Stowers, Yeah, he's another one who is also 679 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 7: mid his mid twenties, so I'm not sure how much 680 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 7: sense that makes either. But I think you got to 681 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 7: look down in the minor leagues for one of those 682 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 7: pre ARB extensions, pre debut extensions, Mack would make sense. 683 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 7: Thomas White is a Scott Boris guy, so I don't 684 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 7: see that happening. Maybe Snelling could be someone who we 685 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 7: will see in the next couple of months for sure, 686 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 7: But yeah, it's got to be frustrating from Rolands fans 687 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 7: alastkay that they extended. 688 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 5: I guarantee you guys will not get this. 689 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 7: Is Richard Blyer to a one year or two year 690 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 7: extension in the middle of the twenty two season. 691 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 5: Before that, Miguel Rojas, So it's. 692 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 7: Been a while since that big Sexy Sandy extension, So 693 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 7: I think that is one thing that would help both 694 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 7: the on field product and the marketing as well. 695 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not have gotten Richard Blyer. You said 696 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: that was one year, what two million? 697 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 7: I don't have the exact figures because it was a 698 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 7: while ago. It may have been two year extension for 699 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 7: Richard Blyer. 700 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: You would have gotten it, well, only because we were teammates, 701 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: and then he like teammates and Triple A and then 702 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: it was like Dick Blier extension was like what he was. 703 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 4: He was getting big outs for the Marlins. He was 704 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: kind of that time when they were COVID time and 705 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: all that, and all of a sudden he was like 706 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: yelling on the mound. He was almost getting in a 707 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: fight with other teams. And then it was like he 708 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: was the Marlins face of fury and then it kind 709 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: of dropped off a little bit. 710 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a cool guy too. 711 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 7: It was a two year, six million dollar extension in 712 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 7: March of twenty twenty two, and unfortunately I don't think 713 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: he stayed with Miami for the duration of that contract. 714 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna we're gonna give it the college, 715 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: try and go for a bigger contract extension. But in 716 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: all seriousness, the team's playing well, so performance is there 717 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: so far in the first week of the season, which 718 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: we started with Isaac. Thank you for joining us. 719 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much for having me. Good catching 720 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: up fish on first. 721 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: By the way, the spot for Marlin's coverage both to 722 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: read and to listen to podcast platforms, YouTube channel, the 723 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 1: whole deal. There our spot part of the FT network. 724 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Aj Ramos new to the party. They're contributing the player 725 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: perspective as well.