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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in depth. Hey,

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Speaker 1: everybody listening out there, we are still in self isolation.

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Speaker 1: So once again we want to give a little disclaimer

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Speaker 1: It is the season of life we're living in. But

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Speaker 1: we don't want this season of life to slow us

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Speaker 1: down from producing great episodes of the almost famous podcast Ashley,

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Speaker 1: How you feeling the day? I'm feeling good. We have

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Speaker 1: a very awesome guest, a big one huge Hannah and

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Speaker 1: I gotta like this girl. You have great vibe. Fanna

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Speaker 1: well good, Well, thank you guys for having me. I

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Speaker 1: was really excited to be here. It's uh, it's it's great, Hannah.

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Speaker 1: You know we're just talking before you came on about

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Speaker 1: Ashley and I are I don't know how many what

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Speaker 1: is it going on? Like three and a half years

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Speaker 1: from Hannah and is from Knoxville, Tennessee. She was on

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Speaker 1: Peter Webber's season of The Bachelor. Uh. They were engaged

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Speaker 1: from the competition. It was revealed on the Live After

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Speaker 1: final after the final Rows show they had ended their engagement. However,

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Speaker 1: USA competition. Hey, the final thing is, we got to

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Speaker 1: don't know about you music videos. So, Hannah, and once again,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the almost Famous in Depth podcast. True. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. That's so funny about

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Speaker 1: A lot of bachelor connections with Chris? All right, So Hannah,

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Speaker 1: leaving a lot out there, uh unknown. You just can't

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00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: do that when your life is also being videotaped, like

432
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: you can't when everybody else is going to watch it

433
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: back and the full truth is going to be brought

434
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: It makes you look like you're trying to lie even

435
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: though you're not. And that I think was one of

436
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: the things that got him and has gotten him in

437
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: the most trouble. It's like, hey, if you just start

438
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: telling the truth, people will listen because you're you're not

439
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: a bad person, you just are not explaining the full story.

440
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Like bad communication. Yes, yes, And I think maybe that's

441
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: equality he has. But in this situation of being the Bachelor,

442
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: it just it brought it out even more and it

443
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: brought it to the surface. And um, you know, I

444
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: when we were together, I always tried to, even throughout

445
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: the show and afterwards, I always tried to put myself

446
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: in his shoes and you know, place him first in

447
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: that sense, um, And I think that's what kept us

448
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: going as a couple longer than what we should have

449
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: is because I always tried to like show you know

450
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: that compassion of you know, your situation was so difficult.

451
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: You're coming off the show, you're still working through your emotions,

452
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: and I think he was doing that as well. You know,

453
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: he could have quite put a finger on, um, why

454
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: exactly he was feeling or why his feelings in his

455
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: own words were like out of control, because you know,

456
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: just pointing the fingers towards different things, um. And I

457
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: never really truly got like that like answer. I had

458
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: to like find out watching the show after the final

459
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: rose when I found out and massive we're back together,

460
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, okay, well we'll we'll go back

461
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: to that. But I do want to let you know

462
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: that I think the level of compassion you had for

463
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: him was very evident during your breakup scene. He was

464
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: like why his tears. Of course that wasn't shown, but

465
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: I was like, why tears? It was so sad you guys.

466
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: It was so evident how much you were fighting for

467
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: that relationship and how you were just like forgiving and

468
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: forgiving him. I want to ask you one more question

469
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: about your proposal. You did seem a little bit shocked

470
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: that it was you like, I don't know, I don't

471
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: remember the last time that I saw somebody in the

472
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor be like it's me, you're picking me? So you

473
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: did you think he was going to break medicine? Honestly, like, okay,

474
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: I promise you. It's sweet and cute and sort of

475
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: like relatable, and it makes me feel like you're very

476
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: um you're just like not full of yourself. You're like, oh,

477
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: like I really didn't. I don't know, like okay, well,

478
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: you know, like seeing people getting like engaged on the

479
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: Bachelor of the past, I told myself, I was like,

480
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm if I get engaged, I'm not going to laugh

481
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: because when he just seems like you're making a joke

482
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: out of it. And so in the moment, I was

483
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: so nervous. I was just like, my gosh, it's me.

484
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: It's me. I was just like I was so silly,

485
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, Like my sister watched that. My sister was like,

486
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: what the heck? Like that was the weirdest reaction ever.

487
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, honestly, when you have all these cameras

488
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: around you and your stress and you're just like you're

489
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: finally finished with like the season and you finally hear

490
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: from the person you're completely in love with they love you,

491
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: like that's something to like be jumping up and down

492
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: for so excited. I guess I was surprised, but after

493
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: I was with his family, I felt so strongly it

494
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: was going to be us. It's ah, it is true.

495
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: Actually you say that. I remember going back and and

496
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: watching that all of us kind of going like, especially

497
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: how the proposal was set up. We're like, this is shocking,

498
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: and it felt I think our last episode that we

499
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: like talked about, We're like, that felt almost like oddly

500
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: not like a proposal, and we know it was Hannah,

501
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear why that was such a real proposal. Uh.

502
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on in your eyes,

503
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: in your opinion, what went wrong? Uh? And then also

504
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: how are you recovering today here in a little bit.

505
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: But before we do, uh, let's take a break. Uh

506
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: and we'll come back with Hannah ann uh and on

507
00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: the almost Famous In Depth podcast. We're back with Hannah

508
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: and Hannah and I want to pause halfway through this

509
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: podcast because there's just something that hit me And I

510
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the right question right now or not. UM,

511
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: but we sit here and we're talking. We talk, we talk.

512
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: We're talking to you and we're hearing your upbringing, we're

513
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: hearing about your family, and we're hearing about your emotions,

514
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: and we're hearing how much sympathy and empathy you have

515
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: for Peter Um Ashley and I sit there as the host.

516
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: Now we've been removed from the show for a while,

517
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: but we don't forget how it feels. And I just

518
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: like it just hit me as I was listening to

519
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: you and being like, Hannah, and this is your life,

520
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Like what you're speaking to us about right now is

521
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: not just a show, not just a show you participated in,

522
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: not just an experience that we can share and talk

523
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: about with our kids. And forty years like you were engaged,

524
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: you were heartbroken, like you went through the ups and

525
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: downs of this whole experience. We're not that far removed

526
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: from it, Like as you just sit to us, not

527
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: and like answering questions about the show. We'll get back

528
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: to that in a second, but just like in general

529
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: that this is now your life and this is like

530
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: how interesting we are and just hearing your story, how

531
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: does that feel? Like how are you processing that right now? Yeah?

532
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, I've worked through a lot of like different emotions.

533
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: I think now I'm kind of like feeling a little

534
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: bit more back on my feet, and I you know,

535
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: it's like the other day, I was walking with my friends,

536
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: and I was on a walk and I just felt

537
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: so much happiness, and I was looking at my friends

538
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we have fresh air. I'm with,

539
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you know, my friends, and and I thought, wow,

540
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I haven't cried and weeks, Like that was just strange

541
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to me, Like I had not cried in weeks, and

542
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: and it made me sad, not over Peter, but it

543
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, I started crying in that moment because I

544
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: was thinking about how oken I was and how terrible

545
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: of a position I felt I was in, you know,

546
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: being with Peter and just leading up to the breakup.

547
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean I would cry for like hours, Like one

548
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: time I cried for six hours straight just because of

549
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: just the anticipation of crying about what's happened, and crying

550
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: about like this is a part of my story, like

551
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: this is a part of my life. And just knowing

552
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: that that would always like be a part of me,

553
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: like really broke me. And knowing that there would be

554
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: like the whole world having to know about it and

555
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: have their opinion on it and feel like that they

556
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: know that the situation, and then you have the season

557
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: going on and you're you're seeing just bits and pieces

558
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: of it and you're just like, oh my gosh, like

559
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: everyone just you know, we'll kind of feel like they're

560
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: a part of it when they really truly aren't, you know,

561
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: only me and Peter truly. Um, And I think it

562
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: was also really hard. I didn't realize the impact of

563
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: it would have on my family because, um, it made

564
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: a should impact, Like my family, my personal life has

565
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: been part has been with my family. Now you know

566
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: they're able to see it. You know, Peter brought you know,

567
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: my dad into it, asking you know, for my hand

568
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: in marriage and it you know, my family was heartbroken

569
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: as well, like this is real life and a lot

570
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: of people got entertainment out of it, and you know,

571
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, obviously that's what I signed up for,

572
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: but it's my heart and my life and what I'm

573
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: carrying forward. When you're when Peter, when your dad told

574
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Peter not to say I love you unless he really

575
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: really meant it, And the way that your dad said,

576
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: it made me feel like, don't say it unless, like

577
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: you know it's her, like you're going to pick her.

578
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: And at that moment, Jared was like he better beat her,

579
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for hand and all the way now

580
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: because like this man better keep his word to this father.

581
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: And well he did, he proposed to you, um, but

582
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: then he went and kind of wasted that for this

583
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: engagement moment, which was something that like a lot I

584
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: think the females and the audience were just like I

585
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: took that away from her like the first and what

586
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: somebody hopes is your only proposal. How does your your

587
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: dad feel about him now? And and how how are

588
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: you you feeling better these days about all that? Or yeah,

589
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: you know when my dad was talking with Peter like

590
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: don't waste a word. Um. You know, the backstory behind

591
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: that is my dad was telling Peter about kind of

592
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: my upbringing and like you know, the family I was

593
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: raised in and how marriage and engagement and words are

594
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: just really are so important and so don't never you know.

595
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where it came in with Fantasy

596
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: sweet week, Like I've always had this, you know, this

597
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: side of not pressuring anyone to do or say anything. Um,

598
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where my dad was, like, you know,

599
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: don't say anything because you're feeling pressured because of the

600
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: show or because you're in the moment. If you're going

601
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: to say something, mean it and follow through with it.

602
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: And um, you know Peter saying I love you, Peter,

603
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, getting engaged to me. Even afterwards, you know,

604
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: he had conversations with my parents about you know, making

605
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: sure to make me feel loved and chosen in first

606
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: place every single day and you know, he gave me

607
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: those words of affirmation that kept me hopeful and kept

608
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: me with him. And so it was a huge disappointment

609
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: for my parents. I mean they were heartbroken as well.

610
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: I think the main thing my dad says is he

611
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: was like I tried to protect you. Like I tried,

612
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, I did everything that I could. But also,

613
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, I put my trust in Peter, who I

614
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: really didn't know quite well, but I put my trust

615
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: in him, and you know, this has happened. And I

616
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: think my dad was, you know, so heartbroken because he

617
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: felt like he didn't maybe necessarily do his part um

618
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: and like protecting me. I the one thing I can

619
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: really hear on is that season of in between. Um,

620
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: you know you and I share some similar stories in

621
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: a way, right, there is there wasn't another person in

622
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: my story, but there was a broken engagement, there was

623
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: a broken relationship that was publicly displayed. There was family

624
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: pain involved. I have now been able to heal. Right.

625
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: I want to promise you that if any pains and

626
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: brokenness inside of you right now, like it's gonna heal,

627
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be very happy one day. Um, you know

628
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm now engaged and uh and just thriving, I guess.

629
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: But in the in the heat of it and in

630
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: the heart of that season, it's hard, it's confusing. Um,

631
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: it's it's heavy, and so there's a lot there to unpack, hannahan,

632
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: because there's in my eyes, in my not like just

633
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: thinking back, there's three elements. One is knowing that it's

634
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: about to end, like getting the sense that something is

635
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: desperately wrong. I remember that. Two is the ending, like

636
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: the band they'd been ripped off, knowing that it's over.

637
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: And three, at least in this show and this experience,

638
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: is the public getting brought into this broke and this

639
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: breakup and their opinions there dislike towards maybe Peter, their

640
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: criticism of possibly you, their criticism of Peter's family, uh of,

641
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: then the celebration of you, the celebration of Peter, the

642
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: celebration of um Peter saying, like, all those elements are

643
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: tied up into this and it makes it extremely hard

644
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: and difficult and heavy for a season. So if we

645
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: could start at point number one, when did you start

646
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: to know that things were falling apart? Falling apart? It

647
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: was about two weeks before we broke up. I just

648
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: had a sense um that it was just going to

649
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: be extremely difficult to work through this, and he was

650
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: giving me. You know, the thing is is the most

651
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: important thing I learned is that like when I'm with someone,

652
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: I need to allow the them to show me who

653
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: they are, not tell me, because you know, with me

654
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: mine and Peter's timeline, he was just able to tell

655
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: me who he is and not show me because we

656
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't have that much time. And then when we were separated,

657
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was living in California, I was still

658
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: in Tynasee, so he wasn't able to like truly show

659
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: me that only through his words, and he's very good

660
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: with his words, and my and I love like I'm

661
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: a words of affirmation kind of a person, so he

662
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: was just able to send me his words to keep

663
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: me in this And I think that's probably what like

664
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: did us the most damaged, because I feel like if

665
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: we were living close or were able to see each

666
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: other more, maybe I would have or we both would

667
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: have been able to pick up on two. I think

668
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: we both would have been able to pick up on

669
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: that we weren't good for one another. But he just,

670
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, continue giving me words of affirmation like he

671
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: said he would. I did the same. And so when

672
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: we were able to like truly have these serious conversations

673
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: about season, it was just so like all over the

674
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: place and so confusing, and like he kept giving me

675
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the words of affirmation to keep me there. But at

676
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, who do I go to,

677
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Like I need advice, Like I need to talk to

678
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: someone who's been in this situation, and I couldn't, Like

679
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: I was on my own. Um, I didn't tell anyone

680
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to bring anyone into this mess

681
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: and then also have the contract of ABC, I can't

682
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: open up to anyone. I was just like inside just

683
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: like begging just for someone that I can go to

684
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: and just be like what do I do? And I

685
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: am I do you know? And I always kind of

686
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: put it back on me, like am I not being

687
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: supportive enough? Am I not being understand um? And it

688
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: was just a mess for both of us because he

689
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: had some people to reach out to, but he was

690
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: lost still. It's it's interesting you're like isolated before isolation

691
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: was something we all have to do, Like you were

692
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: completely isolated, yeah, from I couldn't share my emotions I

693
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: felt like with anyone because and that's why the season

694
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: went unspoiled for the longest time, is because most of

695
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: the time it gets like, you know, broke, it gets

696
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: broken out through like whoever you know ends up with

697
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: the bachelor bachelorette. But I, like, I made that commitment

698
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: not to say anything, so that's pretty cool. Well, I

699
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't want everyone to be like, well, you ruined the

700
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: season because you you told your friend and your friend

701
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, had a fun night at a bar and

702
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: told someone like I never wanted that on me, Like

703
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: I never wanted more criticism. You know. It's cool and

704
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: hard though I was gonna say that that's like the

705
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: weirdest word that came to my head it was cool

706
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: for us to watch an unspoiled season, and it was

707
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: cool for us. It's for you to you to abide

708
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: by your contracts so well. But also but also like

709
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel so sad for you having to

710
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: keep that in Um. Were you releast sharing it with

711
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: your family? No? No, because I you know, when I

712
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: called them after me and Peter broke up, they were

713
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: like what, like they could send something was off about me,

714
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: but they were very taken back. When Peter's parents were

715
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: taken back, Um, Peter opened up to his parents about

716
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: his emotions. I didn't because I knew my parents would

717
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: advise me to just just walk away from it completely. Um.

718
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: And also I think it was like a lot of pride,

719
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: and you know, I made this commitment to him, and

720
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited. I told my grandparents and

721
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: told my parents, and I didn't want like in my

722
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: mind it was always going to be like a one

723
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: and done, Like I had that concrete in my mind,

724
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: like nothing was ever going to change that. You know,

725
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: I said, yes, and we are together and we're gonna

726
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: make it work. Um. And I took like a lot

727
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: of like I was proud of us, and I was

728
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: proud of you know, us as a couple, and I

729
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: couldn't I wasn't ever gonna let any challenge or bump

730
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: in the road take away from that. I thought we

731
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: were supposed to be partners and you know, challenge one

732
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: another and take on Lap's greatest, you know, our biggest trials. Um.

733
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: So I was just kind of seeing this as a

734
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: bump in the road, but really, in reality, we just

735
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: were not compatible. Your vulnerability, They're like, I appreciate it

736
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: because I get it, and I think take away the

737
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: show from this, like a lot of people who feel

738
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: that way when it comes to breakups is like they

739
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: have pride, They've told their friends, they've told their family,

740
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: they are excited, they know it's not for the best. Um.

741
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, you add in the public element to this,

742
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and I can relate with you is the embarrassment and

743
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: the the fear in the sense that you feel when

744
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: you know it's ending. Of Uh, what, like, how am

745
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: I supposed to explain this? Like how especially coming from

746
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, I am a believer in Jesus. That's people

747
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: at to the podcast do not That's not a surprise

748
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: to him. Um. And it's not even that that adds

749
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: a burden to it. It's the public perception of the

750
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: conservative church, like the one that like, breaking up an

751
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: engagement is such a huge deal, and you and I

752
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: both have felt that, and I'm and I'm sorry that

753
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: you've had to feel that, because that's it's hard and

754
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: it's heavy. It's worked out for the best for me.

755
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I believe it will do the same for you. I

756
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for sharing that because

757
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I remember that time and it was I mean, Ashley

758
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: and I started the podcast like the week afterwards, and

759
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I know Ashley could remember how heavy that felt on

760
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: me during that time. So Ashley, go ahead. Sorry, do

761
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: you guys think that you broke up because you were incompatible?

762
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: You keep saying you're you're incompatible. How do you think

763
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: you're incompatible? And you think it was more that than

764
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: it was his mind on someone else. I think we're

765
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: incompatible because we don't see love the same way. We

766
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't see any engagement the same way. That's where I

767
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: think we're incompatible. Also because I'm not I don't speak

768
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: and have truths. He was speaking and have troops and

769
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: never truly told me you know, it's like Jason and

770
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: are like when they ended, you know, with the person

771
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: that they've chosen. You know, they both were like, I'm

772
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: going back to this person. They like they gave them

773
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: that respect to tell them to their face. I was

774
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: never given that. Um, that's why I think we're not

775
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: compatible because we just we we communicate our emotions differently. Now,

776
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: So watching that back and you comparing it to Ari

777
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: and Jason, I'm thinking he didn't say I'm going to

778
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: go after this person, because I don't even think he

779
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: was sure if he was going to go back after Maddie.

780
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: And now that we see all the Kelly stuff coming out,

781
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: was he was he not trying to go after Mattie

782
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: and thinking about somebody else thinking about Kelly? Yeah? Yeah,

783
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: you are absolutely right. It's a different in situation and

784
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: because it keeps getting up messier. But I kind of

785
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: go back to my part with him is done, and um,

786
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: whatever he does moving forward is his own business. I'm

787
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: sure we'll continue to see headlines made about him. Did

788
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: he ever? Did he ever get? Is that hard? No?

789
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: It's not. And I'm being completely honest because I've been

790
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: through harder and it's kind of what Ben was saying,

791
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: the fear of us ending our engagement was the hardest part.

792
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've gone through like the terrible like where

793
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: you just feel like you've hit rock bottom. Um. And

794
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: so whatever he does now, it doesn't doesn't hurt because

795
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm just so thankful I'm not living that with him,

796
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: living that confusion all over the place. Don't really know

797
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: kind of where your head and heart's at. Like, I'm

798
00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 1: just so thankful that my part of it is done. Um,

799
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm creating a happy, stable life for myself now.

800
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: You know. Do you think did he ever say Madison's

801
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: name and your breakup or the week's leading up to

802
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: your breakup? Yes? Yeah, And it seemed as if his

803
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: intention was to get back with her ala Ari and

804
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: Jason not exactly, not exactly. Didn't seem like that. Um.

805
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: I know, you know him and Kelly had messaged each

806
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: other back and forth, um on Instagram and stuff. I

807
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: just always taking I don't know, I don't think he

808
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: had like ill intent. Um. I think he was just

809
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: very very confused with his emotions, whether that was with

810
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Kelly or Madison, um, wherever that was. I don't think

811
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: he truly even knew where his heart was at. Do

812
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: you think that watching the show back made him think

813
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: about Kelly again, because truly, at the end of their

814
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: relationship on the show, it seemed like they were completely

815
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: incompatible and that was not somebody who I thought he'd revisit. Yeah,

816
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: ah walking, I mean watching back the season, probably he

817
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: was reliving feelings for you know, Kelly and Madison and

818
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: who and and and whoever else. His point of view was,

819
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: it's always hard to see an X on TV. It's

820
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: just it's uncomfortable in the hard So I would try

821
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, we're in a very different circumstance. Um,

822
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I guess I'll be understanding of that. But also, um,

823
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I kind of had to accept that, like I deserve

824
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: to be with someone who is unwavering on how they

825
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: feel towards me, or like they know exactly what they want,

826
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: they know exactly where their hearts at and nothing's going

827
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: to change that. So you say that he was messaging Kelly,

828
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: and then you also made this you dropped a bomb

829
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: on us when you said that he also had gone

830
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: to Hannah By for some sort of closure. How did

831
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: he go about that? If you're willing to tell us, Oh, yeah,

832
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: with him and Kelly, I think they were. I know

833
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: that he told me that they had communicated through Instagram.

834
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't know where that exactly began. I was just

835
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, you know, when I'm with someone,

836
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: I trust them, and he's a you know, a good guy.

837
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't know when like more of

838
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: their communication started. It probably started after, you know, after

839
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: he was single again or once he was single again. Um.

840
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: And then with Hannah Brown, he came to me saying

841
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: that he needed closure with her, and I was just like,

842
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: oh crap, Like, how am I supposed to feel about this? Um?

843
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: You know, I thought, you know, when you're with someone,

844
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: any anything that's gone on in the past, has like

845
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: like you had closure. And all I've ever wanted is

846
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: to be with someone and they're so happy to be

847
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: with me. It makes sense why it never worked out

848
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: with anyone else. That's beautiful. I mean, that's what we

849
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: all hope, right, And I remember it's why you know,

850
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: we didn't watch back my season during that time because

851
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: it was gonna be too hard. It was too weird.

852
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird, Like you don't that's not natural.

853
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: At any level. There's nothing about that that's healthy. Um

854
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: to do, Hannah and Uh, I have we have to

855
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: get to parts two and three and then we have

856
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: to talk about barb um. But before we do, let's

857
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: take one break. We have Hannah and on the almost

858
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: famous in Debth podcast. We're gonna take a break and

859
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: come back to speak more about her story and where

860
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: she's at today. Hannah and I told you before the

861
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: break that there is three ways that I view this

862
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: knowing or we've been and one of them is leading

863
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: up to the breakup. Two is the breakup, which we've

864
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: talked about uh quite off quite a bit on this

865
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: podcast so far. I do want to add one point, um,

866
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: just maybe one commentary is that, Yeah, as actually mentioned earlier,

867
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: the sympathy and empathy that you felt for Peter as

868
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: that breakup was happening was beyond I mean, it's it's

869
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: unlike anything uh the world really ever feels and sees like.

870
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Typically breakups are are just super ugly because both sides

871
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: get defensive and contentious, and you didn't. Um, I just

872
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: wanna before I get then the point three is I

873
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: just want to know is from my side, and again

874
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: this is me giving you commentary on your relationship, which

875
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: is just so weird, so wrong. But is any of

876
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: that because you know, this was after the show had

877
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: started airing. You knew how much criticism Peter was already getting.

878
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: You already knew how like chaotic his mind was and

879
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: how confused he was, and you were just like thinking, hey,

880
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I love you still, I want it's best for you,

881
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: but I know you just gotta go figure some stuff out.

882
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: Or what was you Why were you so caring to

883
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: him in that moment? I was so I mean, oh, well,

884
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: thank you m because I loved him. You know, I

885
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: was in love with him, and all I ever asked

886
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: in return was the truth, And um, I went. Wasn't

887
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: a sense relieved because you know, we were together, we

888
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: were engaged for two months and it was just the

889
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: last month was just hell. I mean, it was just

890
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out you know, like when you're with

891
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: someone you know something's up, something, but you can't quite

892
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: put a finger on it. And we're still getting to

893
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: know each other because we just got off the show.

894
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: We're living apart. Um, his words aren't necessarily aligning up

895
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: with the vibe I'm getting, And so when he finally

896
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: told me, you know, the truth, that he can't give

897
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: me his full heart. I was just had a sense

898
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: of relief and just knew in my heart that he

899
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: didn't me in it in an unkind way. Um, he

900
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: was just very lost and confused. And I felt relieved

901
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: in a sense that I can just kind of just

902
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: pick up all the broken pieces and you know, slowly

903
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: move on. Were you expecting production at that scene? I

904
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: looked like, crap, Oh I didn't. You're beautiful always No, Okay, okay.

905
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: If you guys ever watched a bag, you'll see that

906
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I had a pop blood vessels because I had a

907
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: pop blove ve'ssel in my eye because I was crying

908
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: so much leading up to that. My hair was all greasy,

909
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: I had bags underneath my eyes. I looked like I

910
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: had the breakup look going on. Um. We knew, um

911
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: that they were going to be filming. Um. But before

912
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: we got there, you know, we had a phone call

913
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: that I think, like his last text me even was

914
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 1: like that that we got this, that this is gonna

915
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: be a difficult conversation, but we got this that were

916
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: we were committed to each other. And I don't even

917
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: think walk into you know, the house that day. Peter

918
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: maybe even knew we were going to break up. I

919
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: think it just kind of surfaced naturally. And when you're

920
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: kind of pressured into having a conversation and um, you know,

921
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: when he said he couldn't give me his full heart,

922
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: that's when it's just like, you know, there's no turning back.

923
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's you. You don't repair that, especially once

924
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: you're engaged. Like that's a pretty heavy comment to make.

925
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Like I think about my life with Jessica now, and

926
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: if I looked at her and said I'm not gonna

927
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: be able to give you my full heart like that

928
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: would be really confusing for our relationship and in every

929
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: way like that would discount what we were committing to

930
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: and planning on, which is a life together. So I

931
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: can imagine that was heavy and it makes sense that

932
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: things ended during that time, But they did. I mean,

933
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: that's the note we take from this is they ended. Uh.

934
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: And before I leave it to Ashley to kind of

935
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: talk about life now with you, I want to just

936
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: get a note on this is the third piece of

937
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: what I said was life afterwards that I remember going

938
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: around and telling my friends. The hardest part about a

939
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: breakup publicly is that everybody picks a team there, their team, you,

940
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: their team the other person, or they're just uh, not

941
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: supportive at all. And so you hear people back they

942
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: think people think it feels good to bad mouth the

943
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: person that hurt you, um and this when it doesn't.

944
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: You don't want that, and I know you don't want that.

945
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: For Peter, how has life been, uh since the breakup

946
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: with the rumors that have been swirling? Uh? And then Ashley,

947
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: I'll let you, uh to speak about kind of what

948
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: how the impact of Peter's family has been on your

949
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: life because I know they were close with you. It's

950
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: been like so amazing all of the support I've been given,

951
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: just you know, the encouragement. It all kind of came

952
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: out once because you know, at first I was holding

953
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: in like a very exciting secret that I was engaged,

954
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: couldn't even tell my best friend. And then I was

955
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: afterwards we broke up, and I was holding in this

956
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: horrible secret you know, that I've been engaged and I've

957
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: been betrayed. And I had felt like I had the

958
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: support of my family and you know, close friends that

959
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: knew I was going through difficult time. But I at

960
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: the same time felt very isolated. So then overnight it

961
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: turned into I had, you know, dozens and thousands of

962
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: people that are on my side, that are cheering me on,

963
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and it was the most incredible feeling. It literally happened overnight.

964
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: So it was just I went from feeling isolated and

965
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: not being able to tell anyone about what I was

966
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: going through to like everyone knowing and getting so much

967
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: support and it like truly and it meant so much

968
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: more because I didn't have that before, you know, and

969
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: so like every compliment or every encouraging word, like it

970
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: means so much more to me. We um, you know,

971
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: after after this conversation today, it's very apparent why Barb

972
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: would love you so much, and after and after after

973
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: seeing the way that you disrespect it loved her son

974
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: even through that breakup scene. We get it, like we

975
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: get why Barba looves you now, but we also want

976
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: to know more about like your lunch date you know

977
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: with her, like when they had the families and you

978
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: met the family for the first time, like she you

979
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: left her on cloud nine. Tell us more about what

980
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: we didn't see there. Yeah, so meeting Peter's family like

981
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: that was and still is like one of the best

982
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: days I think I've ever had, just because I loved

983
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: his family so much. I just felt like an instant bond.

984
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: So when I walk in, I start okay. When me

985
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: and Barba eyes on each other for the first time,

986
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: we both started crying. We started crying, and we just

987
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: instantly connected. Like we sit down on the couch and

988
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: like we have like short like a little like like

989
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: a little conversation. And then his parents were like, oh

990
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, you you guys are just like us, like

991
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: and then we do it cheers of her saying like

992
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: I hope like you are a part of our family,

993
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And Barbe told me she loved

994
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: me before Peter did. That is fantastic. She was like,

995
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I just want to take you home with me to

996
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: l a like please come back, please, I just want

997
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: to take you home, Come on, Peter. And so but

998
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Barbe still gave, you know, she still you know, gave

999
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: me some tough love and you know, asked me some

1000
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: difficult questions about, you know, my faith and my lifestyle

1001
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: and how we would fit together and if I love

1002
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Peter or not. So we definitely had you know, those

1003
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: difficult conversations. But you know, I was just myself and

1004
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I think our common ground or our common ground was

1005
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: is that she loves Peter and I loved him, and

1006
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: we were always going to look out for him. And

1007
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think she just really appreciated appreciated

1008
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: that I just like accepted accepted him for who he

1009
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: is and was in Um, it was always just going

1010
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: to try to be like the best partner that I

1011
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: could be for him. How did you feel about Barbara

1012
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: after seeing the way she treated Maddie on the Live show? Yeah,

1013
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: something must have happened, you know. I feel like we're

1014
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: missing a huge part of that story. Yeah. Yeah, thankfully

1015
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of that story, but I know

1016
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: her well enough to know, you know, she's been nothing

1017
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: but kind to me. Um, she you know, I said

1018
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: multiple times I considered her a second mom. But something

1019
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: must have happened there, and UM, I'm glad I'm out

1020
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: of it. One of the things we always like to do,

1021
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Hannah and UH is kind of in these in depth

1022
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: episodes with giving you this the time to speak to

1023
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: anybody out there listening. Um, because I know there's stuff

1024
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: that you felt. There's anxieties you felt, there's joys that

1025
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: you felt, there's things you want to celebrate with people,

1026
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: and there's things that have that you've had a push

1027
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: and meat the surface. Uh, We're just gonna give you

1028
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: this time. I don't know, take his long as you

1029
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: want to. Anybody out there listening going, hey, honey, and

1030
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: this has been awesome. I feel like I'm finally getting

1031
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to know you, or maybe I've always loved you and

1032
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: this just solidifies that love. Or maybe somebody out there

1033
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: is going hannay and I don't understand you and I

1034
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: need to know more. Uh. What would you say to

1035
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: anybody out there listening who has followed your journey for

1036
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: the last year, um, and and who just wants to

1037
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: hear from you. I think you know, in the beginning

1038
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: of the season, a lot of people got like, you know,

1039
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: the wrong impression of me. But I'm really grateful for

1040
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: each person that has been able to like stay open

1041
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: minded about me and still been you know, and been

1042
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: able to like see my journey and UM, just take

1043
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: me for who I am. I mean, this journey or

1044
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: this experience I don't like to say journey, but this

1045
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: experience season, Uh, this season of life has just been.

1046
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've experienced like the highs. You know I've

1047
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the highs. But I also know, you know,

1048
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: I can survive like the lowest points that I feel

1049
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: like life can get. There's been times where like I

1050
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: just don't even feel getting up out of bed because

1051
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: I was just so hurt and broken and scared for

1052
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: all this to come out. So really, like my word

1053
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: for anyone is we can all be bonded by one thing,

1054
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and that is we all hurt. We all are going

1055
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: to suffer at some point in our lives, whether it's

1056
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: through a heartbreak or hardship. But just know that, you know,

1057
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: if you are never truly alone. Even in my situation,

1058
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: and I couldn't open up to very many people about it,

1059
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: but for me, like my foundation was my faith and

1060
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: what truly brought me through it, and like how I

1061
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: like how I felt like my heart was so damaged

1062
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: and just twisted and broken, like I just ultimately just

1063
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: just gave it to God because I knew that he

1064
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: was in control and that he would never allow this

1065
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: to happen if he didn't have like a greater plan,

1066
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: And that brought like a lot of peace and every day.

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Speaker 1: I had to choose peace. I had to choose joy.

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Speaker 1: I had to choose letting it all go, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I had had anchor, I had sadness. I you know,

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: I had so many emotions and I just had to

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00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: choose every single day not to allow that to get

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Speaker 1: the best of me and to make me a better person. Well,

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00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: Hannah and Uh, I appreciate you should being here today.

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00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: It's been awesome talking to you. It's been great to

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00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: finally get to know you. You You are really just terrific

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: interview and not like, hey, you're the terrific interview because

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: you put on a show. It's just a good interview.

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00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: It's fun to talk to you. Um. You remind me

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: a lot of our interview with Hannah g that we did. Um,

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how long ago, very similar, Ashley. Uh,

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00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: it's now your time to do one of your favorite

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: things on any in depth episode, UM take over. Okay,

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00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: are you ready for a little rapid fire? We like

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00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: to finish it out fun and it's gonna be a

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00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: Bachelor edition of rapid Fire. Okay ready, so you can

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: just use like two or three words. Have you been

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00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: on a date since breaking up with Peter. Yes. Have

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00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: you been on multiple dates with the same person since

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00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: breaking up with Peter? Yes? Was this person a bachelor person? No? Okay? Um,

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: is there somebody in Bachelor Nation that you think is

1091
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: cute and you'll be open to dating? Um? Not right now.

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: I think everyone's great, but I would have to get

1093
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: to know them first before society and you have to

1094
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: stop dating whoever it is that you've been dating before

1095
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: you could or I'm not dating, I'm not exclusive, I'm

1096
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be exclusive for a long Do you have

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: to answer that truthfully? Of going off of that, would

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: you be open to Bachelor in Paradise? Yes, I'd be open.

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: And who is the bachelor ALAM who has reached out

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: and been the most supportive bachelor ALAM? Other than Hannah? Okay?

1101
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: And of Hannah gee oh man, there's there's been a few.

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Speaker 1: Raven has been really great and Cassie. I've spoken with

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: Cassie quite a bit. Um. Yeah, they're both two really

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01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: good ones. I really like both of them. And Hannah

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Speaker 1: you wait? First off? Great question? Uh? Have you always

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: been Hannah? And or is it because last season had

1107
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: so many Hannahs that you became Hannah? And Yeah? Well, uh,

1108
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I wanted so, like growing up like in the South,

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01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot of hannah's um and plussing this out.

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01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: This like typical for like it to be a double name.

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01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: So his name after both my grandmother's. I had Grandma

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: Hannah and then Grandma Carol Anne, and so I was

1113
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: the firstborn grandchild and my grandmother's refuting over who was

1114
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna be named after. So when I was younger, I

1115
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: was always called Hannah ann Um And then going on

1116
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: to the show just with Hannah Brown and Hannah Gee,

1117
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well let's push it back to Hannah. Yeah, ok,

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Speaker 1: eprict Well it was a good decision, a really good decision.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here today. I just

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: love getting to know you, and it just reaffirms for

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: me that like, we can't pretend like we know these

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: people on TV when we're watching because there's so much

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: that we don't get to see in your storyline, and uh,

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: it's it was. It's too bad we didn't get to

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: know you on TV as well as we've gotten to

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: know today. Thank you guys for me the opportunity to

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: share more of myself and you know, to listen to

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Speaker 1: you guys. You guys have been awesome. It's been like

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01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: very therapeutic. This is a good therapy for me. I agree. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what these in the Depth episodes are about. Hey,

1131
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: if if we don't get to know you well enough

1132
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: through this show, then you're gonna come on here. Uh,

1133
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: and Nash and I just want to sit down and

1134
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: get to know you better. Handing and thanks again, Handy.

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Speaker 1: I need you to participate in one last thing. Okay. Um,

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: we end every episode of the Almost Famous Podcast in

1137
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: the same way, so follow our lead. Okay, you're gonna

1138
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: be doing the same thing as us. Hey, listeners out there, Uh,

1139
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: you've been great. Uh, we appreciate you. I hope, we

1140
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed listening to Hannah and on the in

1141
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: Depth podcast. Once again, to reiterate what Ashley said, Hannah

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01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: and was amazing with that, I've been been, I've been Ashley,

1143
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: I've been hand Later, guys, follow the Benn and Ashley

1144
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever

1145
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, and make sure you watch the

1146
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: upcoming show. Listen to your Heart, which airs Monday, a

1147
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: a b C. At eight seventh Central Ashley, Will you

1148
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: be watching. We'll be watching, and you guys don't want

1149
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: fomo because we'll be watching. We'll be getting really invested

1150
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: in these couples and their performances. And if you're not watching,

1151
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: then you're not going to know what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: every week