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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on esp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's so Alive on a Monday edition. Why am I

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Speaker 1: I'm not hearing me? Well? Are we up, Gibbey? Are

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Speaker 1: we on the air? You are on the air? I

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Speaker 1: hear you clear, Now I hear me, Now I hear me. Danny.

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Speaker 1: Was it strong the whole time? Strong audio the whole time? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone listening has no idea what you're talking about out

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Speaker 1: I'm the only one affect. There was a headphone pot

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Speaker 1: that I don't say I down, but it was down.

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Speaker 1: I knew there was something. I've done this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You do have some experience. I have some experience with

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Speaker 1: how it ought to sound in my own ear, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this doesn't seem right there. We're just

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Speaker 1: trying to get through the week. Brothers. That's where you are.

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Speaker 1: That's where you are. That's where you are on this one,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Um, look, let's let's tackle the big stuff

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Speaker 1: out of the gates here and and try to get

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Speaker 1: a little perspective on this. So um, First of all,

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Speaker 1: there there's obviously a lot floating out around out there

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Speaker 1: about UH Deshaun Watson and a potential whether there is UM,

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Speaker 1: whether there would be suspension, or what that may look

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Speaker 1: like with the NFL may want out of that. UM.

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Speaker 1: There are all sorts of reporting about conversations being broken

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Speaker 1: down or that conversations we're having. Here's what I would

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Speaker 1: say is that by and large, UH probably less is

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Speaker 1: That this is a really tight lipped UH investigation UM

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Speaker 1: and NFL P eight events of it, of whatever potential

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Speaker 1: suspension would be. But this was from Schefter on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: UM he dropped this one that the Deshaun Watson hearing

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Speaker 1: before the NFL and the nfl p A jointly appointed

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Speaker 1: UH Disciplinary Officer Sue Robinson the schedule to begin Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: League sources tell ESPN on Saturday of that, UM, what

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Speaker 1: is important I think to note on that is that

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Speaker 1: what just so you have an idea of what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: So if this reportedly is happening tomorrow, this is a

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Speaker 1: conversation that will take place UM in front of Sue Robinson.

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Speaker 1: It will be the NFL presenting its investigation to Robinson,

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Speaker 1: and it's its view of what the penalty ought to be.

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Speaker 1: If there is one at all, it will be the

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Speaker 1: NFL p A representing Watson. Watson, it will not be there,

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Speaker 1: He has nothing to do with it. Uh, it's the

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Speaker 1: NFL p A uh in having Watson's back in this

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Speaker 1: and as the NFL presenting their case to Robinson in this.

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Speaker 1: Once that happens, and we have no idea what the

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Speaker 1: time frame on that could be, how long it could last.

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Speaker 1: Once that happens, if there is suspension that will be recommended,

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Speaker 1: there will be appeals based off of that. So this

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Speaker 1: is a jumping off point of that. Once there is

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Speaker 1: an appeal, that would then go to Commissioner Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: in terms of the the appeal of whatever the penalty

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Speaker 1: Robinson or if there is a penalty that Robertson sees fit.

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Speaker 1: That's as we understand what will happen. I know that,

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Speaker 1: I mean even I had some clarity. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to get clarity on exactly what what this is. Reportedly tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: to my best of my knowledge, that's what tomorrow is.

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Speaker 1: And per Jeremy Fowler hearings can go as long as necessary,

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Speaker 1: which would be due three days after the hearing, so

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Speaker 1: she can she can request additional UM items. She can

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Speaker 1: you know, the backdrop of all of this, with everything

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's something that you want to be

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Speaker 1: new wrinkle in this UH. This morning, one of the

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Speaker 1: So there there are four women who have settled, there

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Speaker 1: One man, where did June go? Were? Didn't make on

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Speaker 1: it was rain May. It was rain. It's been a

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Speaker 1: great June, pretty good. It's really good. June little stifling, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not great to uh not great putting. When you make

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Speaker 1: the decision to mulch, you should not do it on

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Speaker 1: days it's gonna be ninety degrees. No, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: I did forty bags on Saturday. You did. You're just

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Speaker 1: I want as much gravel bed river rock whatever. That's

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Speaker 1: Have nice weekend other than the mulch, yeah, I think so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not the case. It was. It was probably rain and

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Speaker 1: and then oh it's really Sunday. That's oh no, it's Saturday,

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Speaker 1: that's raining. Yes, Saturday is not a great day. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Monday look good though. Yeah, you're recovering time for the

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Speaker 1: fourth of July, which is great. No, that's fine. Then

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Speaker 1: that'll work out just fine. It'll just be Saturday. It'll

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Speaker 1: some some squirrel traps for you. Get a squirrel situation

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Speaker 1: a one goal Stanley Cup final game where the cups

422
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Speaker 1: on the line. So it was Colorado hung on for

423
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: dear life for five minutes as you're just waiting for

424
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: the clock to tick down. Um. The the idea of

425
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: you know, a sport where it's actually legal to fight,

426
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: and then the first thing you do after you win

427
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: it is getting a line and shake everybody's hand, and

428
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: then you get the cup and they hand it to

429
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Speaker 1: the captain. They don't hand it to the owner. They

430
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: don't hand it to a coach. They handed to the

431
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Speaker 1: captain of the team and then he gets to skate

432
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: with it first. Uh, that's a win. I saw your

433
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: tweet last unbelievable. That's unbelievable, and so the fact that

434
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Speaker 1: and good job at of ESPN ABC they stuck with

435
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: it while everybody skated. Everybody I ended up. I was

436
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Speaker 1: up till eleven forty watching this UM as everybody skated,

437
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and it was really cool. I thought it was a

438
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: great finals. Was it was really good. There was one

439
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: bad game, but everything else game too was awful, but

440
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: otherwise great. Blew away the NBA Finals, Yeah, No, they

441
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Speaker 1: were all every game was it? It was except for

442
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: the one, and it was really competitive. UM. I think

443
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: it's the it's very clearly the best trophy and celebration

444
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: in sport, you know, like there's nothing really close the

445
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Speaker 1: five Trophy. I think it's the is it the burg

446
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Speaker 1: Bog Boog Warner or something like that. It's got the

447
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: face of every guy on it. Like the trophies really

448
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: really cool, but there's nothing else that's really close to

449
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: what the Stanley Cup is. UM. And then the it's

450
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: the best celebration, like the hand it not to team

451
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: owner but to captain, and then captain skates around and

452
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: then hands it to the next guy, and the next

453
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Speaker 1: guy and the next guy. It's just one of the

454
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Speaker 1: coolest traditions that there is a seconds in terms of

455
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Speaker 1: what the next one could be. It is amazing, you know,

456
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: because like the n C Double A tournament, they've gotten

457
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Speaker 1: away from like the line at the end of at

458
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: the end of the championship game, because usually the guys

459
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Speaker 1: around the middle of the floor piled on each other

460
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: and celebrating, the coaches will you know, you know, go

461
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: through the line together. But that's usually about it. I

462
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what that's like to have to lose

463
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: the championship game and then go down the line and

464
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: shake hands. Well, right, because the physicality of hockey and

465
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 1: the fact that they actually do punch each other from

466
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Speaker 1: time to time and the scuffles and all of that.

467
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of like, look, we've all

468
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: been through this war of attrition. I got respect for

469
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Speaker 1: you man. You know. So it's two in a row.

470
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Speaker 1: They won two in a row. No, the lightning we're

471
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Speaker 1: going for their third and oh this was the as Yeah,

472
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: they had won the previous correct that they were going

473
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Speaker 1: for their third straight, first time since the Islanders in

474
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Speaker 1: the early eighties that a team had played for three

475
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Speaker 1: straight Cups. The last team to actually beat them in

476
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Speaker 1: the postseason was a Columbus Blue Jackets a two thousand nineteen.

477
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: And by the way, Tampa Bay was the one seed.

478
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: They would had the President's Cup most points in the

479
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Speaker 1: league that year, and the Jackets were an eight seed

480
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: and upset them. Goaltending Iuvsky was unbelievable and they won

481
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Speaker 1: four oh in a suite. Um, So that's it. Are that.

482
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Speaker 1: That concludes the Winter Sports Championships, the NBA, the NHL

483
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Winter Sports. That's all right, They're all done. It's all

484
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: done at this point. I really feel tell me I'm wrong.

485
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I feel like one of those two sports needs to

486
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: go into July, like the first two weeks in July,

487
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: because right now there's nothing Baseball cannot carry it. No, huh, no,

488
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: I think you probably the one that ought to do

489
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: it should be the NBA. The NBA should back. There's up.

490
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: Hockey's probably it probably went too long, as is. I

491
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: think hockey had a round wrap around. You know, end

492
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: of May would be perfect for hockey, and the NBA

493
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: should go into July a little bit would be the

494
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: sweet spot on that. Yeah, speaking of the NBA, Kyrie

495
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Irving so listed teams to be traded to if the

496
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: Nets don't give him a new offer. Uh, this is

497
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: from woes. Outside of the Lakers, there are currently no

498
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: known teams planning pursuit of signing trades for Kyrie Irving.

499
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Speaker 1: No signing trades can be formally discussed uti laster or

500
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: six pm on Thursday. Brooklyn isn't believed to have interest

501
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: in available Lakers packages. I would not put it past

502
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: him to opt out of the deal and play for

503
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers at like six million bucks. I wouldn't put

504
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: it past him. I just don't like, at what point,

505
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: what is the game by having this guy on your team? Well,

506
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: for a team like the Lakers, it's actually big because

507
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: they would be better with him. He's great, he's still

508
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: great ever five and five, Like he's a complete disaster

509
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Sure, but like we all went, like,

510
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: they don't really have a path. Lebron with what he's

511
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: done with that roster, has put him in a corner

512
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie there would make them better. Yeah, I would assume

513
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: that he would be motivated. I don't know. I just

514
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't doesn't make any sense to me, and I

515
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: don't know what this guy. I think he's God's gift

516
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: to basketball. I mean, he's one of championship'ivational individual player. Um,

517
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: but it's been did you, I mean you were around

518
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: those teams. Do you remember him being a different dude? Then? No? Actually,

519
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: the year he won Rookie of the Year, he was

520
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: probably one of the nicest guys. I don't know what changed,

521
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: but he went into a whole different world mentally and

522
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: he hasn't come out yet. No, he no, not, and

523
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: it was I don't know. It's it's funny because, like,

524
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Cavaliers are in this weird spot where

525
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: like those are the two best players right to play

526
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: here and they're both you know, not here and kind

527
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: of awkwardly not so it's kind of a weird, a

528
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: weird spot. I did not see the Angels Mariners brawl.

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00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I missed it during a commercial break. Give that a

530
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: little bit of a look, or you can just type

531
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: it into the Twitter machine right now. It'll pop up

532
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: two separate brawls. Just when you thought they had it

533
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: under control, they did not have an under control. Eight

534
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: guys ejected baseball brawl. It was a class sport case.

535
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: It was a classic beaning. Yeah, there was something with

536
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: a walk off and didn't like it. And that's enough. Okay,

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00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: here we go. We're gonna have a chat about it. Yeah,

538
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: purpose I know I did. Baseball's unwritten rules are exhausting,

539
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: aren't they They are? But the fighting portion is right

540
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: up and there's looks like there's plenty of good seats

541
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Speaker 1: available in Anaheim if you want a shocking development on

542
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon, Sunday afternoon with probably the two best

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00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: players in the sport and no one's there. Yeah, it's

544
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's it's a pretty good, pretty good brawl.

545
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Like and I was thinking back, I'm like, what, I

546
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: have you ever seen one? Oh? Yeah, um, so the

547
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: the the Guardians, Indians and days. Uh they would do

548
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: a bad day and they, I mean they would give out.

549
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: It was like a thirty one inch wooden bat like

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: to the first however, many thousand people like you would

551
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: get a Louisville Slugger bat and I remember like it

552
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: was a bat day. Indians were playing the Red Sox

553
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: at the time. My favorite players were Wade Boggs, Roger Clements,

554
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and then Greg Swandell on the Indians. So something that

555
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: happened Alex Cole, former Indians outfielder, gone back and forth.

556
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: There's been some trash tog and there's been some incidents.

557
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: He'd been thrown at Clements is on the mound and

558
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: there was no way that Clements wasn't going like Clements knew,

559
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: like every player was on the top step on both dugouts.

560
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: First pitch drilled him on like donkey call like and

561
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: it is bat day. Fans are like waving bats around.

562
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: They had to call the CPD out on the field

563
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: to help break up the fight. I mean, Joe Haymakers.

564
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: We were three rows behind the Red Sox dugout. My

565
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: dad's company had tickets and it was just they were

566
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: there was just bloody. It was awesome. It was a

567
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: great fight. And then I saw I was in St.

568
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals and Diamondbacks on an Easter Sunday that was

569
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: anything but religious, and uh it was on and basically

570
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: a guy gets hit. He's John with a picture all

571
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: the way to first from the Cardinals. Still John with him,

572
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: John with the first baseman. There's a flyball to the outfield.

573
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: Now there's nobody out. Okay, he starts running around the bases.

574
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: He hits second and goes right to the mound and

575
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: it's not like he's out. It was a double play.

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: But he was like, I don't care, I'm making a

577
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: left turn and we're gonna take this guy out. And

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00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great brawl. I don't think

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00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I've ever I've never been in the stands or covered

580
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: a sport where there was a brawl. Um. My junior

581
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: year after my junior of high school, I was on

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00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: an all star basketball team with Ryan Leaf and he

583
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: went into the stands to fight a kid um that

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00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, which was not all that surprising. The kid

585
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: deserved it quite frankly, but um, you know that that's

586
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the closest, like, that's the first thing that jumped to

587
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: my head when I when I thought about this notion

588
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: of of going and fighting at sporting events, that was

589
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: That's the first one that came into my mind. But

590
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: that's a good one. It's a very good one they

591
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: had out there. Yeah, that's a little brawl. Yeah, I

592
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know. It wasn't like wild and crazy. A couple

593
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: more guys defecting from the tour that I don't know. Yeah,

594
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I think you're Yeah, I think you're I think the

595
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: biggest news was it wasn't there like there was a

596
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: college kid who did it was like the number one

597
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: college player to h Yeah, yeah, I think that was

598
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: That was probably the biggest news because that would mean,

599
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, are they cutting are they gonna start stealing

600
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: the best up and comers? And it sounds like that

601
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: the going rate for some of those guys is basically

602
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: ten million. Like for ten million, you get that and

603
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: you go play. It's a lot of money. It is, Yeah,

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00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: it is. That is. Yeah, that's life changing stuff. Man,

605
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,399
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Speaker 1: We're up in the building. So things are spinning. Now,

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00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: you haven't had a mini camp since your rookie year,

634
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Is that right? Or we had

635
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: last year, but it's a little it was a little different.

636
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: They're still having the COVID stuff involved. So this year, yeah,

637
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I would say like a full full camp. Oh yeah,

638
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I was a full old T eight full mini camp

639
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: for sure. You liken being in the same defense three

640
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: years in a row. It's just from this is again

641
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: my amateur eye, but it looks like you guys, certainly

642
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: because it's been a passing camp. So in this Back

643
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: seven though, it really feels like you guys are jelling

644
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: very well together. No, yeah, it's it's a passing camp.

645
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: So to to go through all our calls and stuff

646
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: and be on the same page with the back seven

647
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: guys is important. John out there catching a ton of pigs.

648
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta ron. You got all the guys

649
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: making plays on the ball. So it's really it's really

650
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: good knowing that going into um, you know, training camp,

651
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of get all those little nicks

652
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: out and I know you're ready for this mini camp

653
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: and then the training camp you mentioned. Your coach is ready.

654
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: He just told me just got cleared. Hit forty push

655
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: ups over there, Coach Tiver, he's fired up about that.

656
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: What do you like about playing for Coach Tiver? I

657
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: love the way he comes into building every single day.

658
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: He's the same person. Uh, the energy, the love that

659
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: he has a game matches you know, everybody in the

660
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: room because I love the game. You know, That's kind

661
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: of what keeps me fired up every day. I love

662
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: this game until to be coached by tar The way

663
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: he loves the game, the way he approaches it each

664
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: and every day, being the same person. Energy is through

665
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: the roof. I love it. I love playing for the

666
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: run through a wall through the guy need day. It's

667
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: so funny that you said that, so on my mind.

668
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: My next question was going to be, who's the Mount

669
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: Rushmore of like run through the wall guys on this team?

670
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: And I was gonna put you and Coach Tarv on it,

671
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: so you, to me are the experts of like for

672
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: sure you guys would run through the wall to do

673
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: anything to help to see one Who would be the

674
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: other two guys that you would put on the run

675
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: through the Wall Mount Rushmore? Who? Let me let me

676
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: let me take a a little thought obviously I stick

677
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: with my linebacker guy. So I'll bring two linebackers. You know,

678
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: we're the middle of the defense middle pag. We play

679
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: special teams defense or were just those get those guys

680
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: and we're taking on blocks. But to be honest, we've

681
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: got d line two that are crazy. They're up front,

682
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: set and edge is. I'll bring Miles and I'll bring

683
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips. Jacob Phillips, he's like he's an interesting because

684
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: every time we see him very good and if we

685
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: can get a sixteen seventeam now game season, I feel

686
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: like there's maybe something special. There no really special Jacob Man.

687
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: He's young, he's long, tall, fast. He could play if

688
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: he could stay healthy, just kind of like we're saying

689
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: and stack these games, he's gonna be making plays. You

690
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: see what he did against the Bengals that last game

691
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: of the season. He was itching to play. You know,

692
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: sometimes with the game that we play, it's tough. Guys

693
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: get hurt, you know, the business part of it, it

694
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: just happens. You know, guys are gonna get nicked up.

695
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: But if he could stay healthy, he's gonna ball out.

696
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: I know that for sure. I remember a couple of

697
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: years ago, we had a dunk contest and he won it.

698
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: And so I was talking with some of the guys

699
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: and said, you know, everybody thinks that they would win

700
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: the dunk contests, and then you probably think you would

701
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: win the dunk contest as well, and rightfully so. But

702
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 1: some people I told some people Sai, yeah, Jacob philis

703
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: went a couple of years ago, some skepticism, which shocked me.

704
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: The guy is a tremendous athlete. But what would you

705
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: would you be throwing down some nasty dunks out there talk?

706
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: I would, you know what? We went to the Cavaliers game,

707
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not like a shooter, you know, I'm a

708
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: type of guy that's taking it to the who eurals

709
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: staff rebounds. I'm scoring on my points, so like Manu Jenobli, Yeah,

710
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of smoother, you know, gonna get on

711
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: get some rebounds for the squad. Um. I wouldn't want

712
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: you guarding me. I feel like you'd be so annoying.

713
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: You'd be like you'd follow me everywhere. I'd be like

714
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: one of those guys like just the ball's over there,

715
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: stop getting I get out of my girl, let me

716
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: get my shot off here. Yeah, defense through the roof,

717
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: for sure, Defense through the roof. That's my game when

718
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you think about your room. So you got you. You

719
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: got j Ok who was All State and hoops in

720
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: high school, and I'll stayed defense, and I'll stay defense

721
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: in football. You've got Willie Harvey, who's got a sweet

722
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: j I mean, he's in one of the top shooters

723
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: on the team. Right, you guys got a pretty good

724
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: room that. I feel like you guys would be a

725
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: competitive group. Jacob a walk. I think for sure, if

726
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: if we used to compete against you know, position groups,

727
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: would definitely make it to the finals. For sure. There's

728
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. Although I will say

729
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Jacobe was stroking it. Oh yeah, you know he you

730
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: know it's a quarterback, so you know he stays at

731
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: the three point whe he don't want to get nasty

732
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: get in there. But he definitely has a clean shot.

733
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: That was like my game talk. If we're being honest

734
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: about it, I could shoot the basketball, but I was

735
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: really not interested in mucking it up with the run

736
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: through the wall. Guys, you know what I mean. I

737
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: got you at finesse. There's nothing wrong at that two

738
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: points or two points or three, nothing with finesse at all.

739
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: So I love it absolutely and I want to see

740
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: some more. Pick six is from you. That was a

741
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: real treat against the Philadelphia Eagles low those many years ago. Brother,

742
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna open it up this year, man, I promise you.

743
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: All right talk thanks to Tom. I appreciate you. I

744
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 1: like the idea how Z has to explain his game

745
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: as if we as if we, I mean talk, would

746
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: have to have known it by now. It totally fits

747
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: the DNA, by the way, it wouldn't be that far

748
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: off either. I'm not gonna go in there. I'm not

749
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: taking charges at this point. Not not in your not

750
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: in your life whatever. No, well not in high school.

751
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: I didn't take it was a badge of honor. That

752
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: might be one less wind sprint you gotta run. That

753
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: was always that they didnte that screwed up. If you

754
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: committed to take the charge, you better be right because

755
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: if you were wrong, it got pointed out very went

756
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: the they would go the other way against you. Oh yeah,

757
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: and then like the next morning, coach should be like, yep,

758
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna run a little bit for that. If you

759
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: got a block back and review the tape. I feel

760
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: like I was there. Yeah, it was definitely that anybody

761
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: who took charges got definitely we got off of sprints.

762
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: But I don't remember them ever being penalized if it

763
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: was a block. It felt like it was just good effort,

764
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: Like it was almost like if they In fact, I

765
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: had a coach coach in software and junior year who

766
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: if they if you fell on on it, like that

767
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: counted as much as a charge, Like he just wanted

768
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: you to take the hit and fall, which I was

769
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: that was stupid because now it's say you gotta get up,

770
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: we could be going the other way correct or if

771
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: they get the rebound, you're laying on the ground. You're

772
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: not exactly there to stop the pot. No you miss it.

773
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: It's you better get the charge. But there was a

774
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: while a large part because of your Duke buddies where

775
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: any time you hit the ground you get a charge. Yeah,

776
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: if you hit the ground, you'd get it. Setting the tone,

777
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: that's how I would go, h that's gonna be I'll

778
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: tell you what I mean. It's been I'm looking forward

779
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to camp for myriad reasons. Um, but but I do

780
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: think that this defense is going to be really fun.

781
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: To watch and that that room especially is ultra talented,

782
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: really quick. They've been in the mix for a while.

783
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Now they know where they're supposed to be. J Okay

784
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: is gonna as good as he was last year. You're

785
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna see him in more explosion out of him. You're

786
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna see that versatility. Really try to weigh in. You

787
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: heard talk talk about it. We've talked about it for

788
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: Cheez forever. If Jacob Phillips can stay healthy, what he

789
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: can do for this team is going to be really noticeable.

790
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: I think if that not just for Jacob Phillips, but

791
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I think for the whole uh, the whole group, Like

792
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: they all need to stay healthy. You know, j o'k's

793
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: gotten dinged up a little bit. He's played through it,

794
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: but he missed a couple of games last year. And

795
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: that room needs to stay healthy. Yeah, because you know

796
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: what you have on the back end, you know what

797
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: you have on the front. It comes down to those

798
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: guys in the middle being allowed to go and make plays. Yeah,

799
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: the seven, the back seven, really, I mean it's you

800
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: haven't had full health out of Safety's corners, Greedy and

801
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Denzel and you know, Jacob Phillips we've had injuries everywhere back,

802
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: so that's you gotta stay healthy to see as the

803
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: season goes along, and if it can, then it's got

804
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: a chance to be really really special, and um, it

805
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: should be. A lot has been invested on that side

806
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: of the ball, to say the least, and toxic guy

807
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: who's I mean, you loved him from the first date

808
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: stepped in the building. He's been just great the whole time.

809
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Him and um him him coming into the building and

810
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: a guy who can be there in the rundown situations

811
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: and a leader on the team and willingness to do everything.

812
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: So he was Elliott's guy, wasn't He did Elliott Wolf

813
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: love him? But he went out and scouted him. And

814
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: remember talking Elliot about that right after the draft that

815
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: he saw him and they loved him. You know. But

816
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, what is talkie going into year four? Yeah? Yeah,

817
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of how many lineback is you're

818
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna keep? I mean, that's it's the middle class, you know,

819
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: He's he's that NFL middle class that has kind of

820
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: been done away with, like you know, probably not at

821
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: He's not an every down guy, He's not, you know,

822
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: but he's a situational guy. But there does come a

823
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: point after, you know, after a contract, where sometimes it's

824
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: better to have cheaper guys at that wage scale, so

825
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: you know, with the Brookies something like that. So we'll

826
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: see um, but a ton of depth, ton of speedback

827
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: there on the defensive side of a lot of good

828
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: guys and the only talkie talkie absolutely one of those

829
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: guys going forward. All right, coming up in the final

830
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Speaker 1: hour of the program here on a Monday edition, we'll

831
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: have a little fun. We'll road will rank some road trips.

832
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: I've got some thoughts on some of these places. Have

833
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: a little fun with that big tense strength that schedules out.

834
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Buckeyes if if my guess, as

835
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Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you like the Bucks as well,

836
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: it really sets up for them to to go win

837
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: it all this year. It does. The schedule is really good,

838
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: it's ambitious, um and it's a lot of fun from

839
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: a viewing standpoint. We'll get you set for that as well.

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Speaker 1: el Canux, Serious Lawyer, serious injuries. Called one hundred elk

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00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: Ohio for a free case for view el Canux, proud

844
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns. Uh, this is pretty remarkable

845
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: little story. I just saw this come across my cost

846
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: my attention on the social. So there's a whiskey company

847
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: in Columbus called High Bank Whiskey, um, and they want

848
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: best blended whiskey in America at a Columbus. They've done

849
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: it two years in a row. Now with their with

850
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: their whiskey out of their good job out of them.

851
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's tough to do. I was gonna say,

852
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: how many places of the bourbon trail are putting stuff out?

853
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: It's blend, So that's that is the one key is

854
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: that it's a blended whisky. What does that mean? So

855
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: you take a couple of whiskeys and literally blend them

856
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: to create this. So a lot of times you'll get

857
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: a you know if if for example, like a lot

858
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: of times it will be a single barrel, you know,

859
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: blunted single barrel or those are from a single barrel,

860
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: whereas this would be from multiple barrels where they've blended

861
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: it together. But nevertheless, tough to do, very very tough

862
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: to do. I can't tell you that Dan Graziano was

863
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: gonna join us at two thirty on the very latest

864
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: on all of these things. All right, So you did this?

865
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Is you? Did? You want us to rank the our

866
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: road games? Are we doing this? All right? I need

867
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: some ground rules on this. Am I doing this based

868
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: on like family? Single dude girlfriend in the mix? I

869
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: gotta know what who I'm setting this up for because

870
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I've got thoughts on all these places or just best

871
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: games I would do I would do with this experience.

872
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: You're with a group of friends, your girlfriends be your

873
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: might be your girlfriend could be involved, like because I

874
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: have friends that go on road trips and the girls

875
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: are part of it. Okay, all right? You know the

876
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: football ones? Yeah, you know you're if you're going, if

877
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: you're going to a place, you're flying in either Friday

878
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: night or Friday late, coming back on Monday. Okay? Does

879
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: that help? Yeah? Yeah, I think that does help because

880
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: I think I need to know what we're I gotta

881
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: know who I'm sending where. All right. So let's go

882
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: from do you want to go worst to best or

883
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: best to worst? Okay? So I think for me, based

884
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: on what you just said the worst road trip out

885
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: of all of these, unless it's like for the division

886
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: is Pittsburgh at the end of the year. Like, I

887
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: have no reason to go to Pittsburgh unless that's we

888
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: were in, we when we're in. Unless there's big steaks

889
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: on it, I'm not going and I can't make that.

890
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know right now if it will be. It's

891
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: hard for me to imagine that it will be. I

892
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be that good, So I

893
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: guess like going over there and watching them lose, but like,

894
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing I want to do in Pittsburgh. See,

895
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about Houston, all right. I

896
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: have Houston higher, and I'll explain that when I get

897
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: to them. Um, I like, I don't like that Primanny

898
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: sandwich thing they have over there. I think that thing

899
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: sucks with the mystery meat and that by the way,

900
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, the fries aren't even any

901
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: good on it. There's not much flavor in the fries

902
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: and then they just put slaw on randomly. I found

903
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: it to be dry, no, no good out out on Pittsburgh.

904
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: I would have Pittsburgh t as much as I like

905
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: to make fun of the Pukers. Their cities not as

906
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: bad as one would think, like it in the Three

907
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: Rivers City agreed, And I like the food is good.

908
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: I love how they're steam Yeah. I like how the

909
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: stadiums are set up. I like how the other they're

910
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: the only team in North America that figured out, hey,

911
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: let's all be the same color. That's a win. I

912
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: think it's cool that they're all black and gold. I

913
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: think that's sweet. Seattle kind of does that with navy

914
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: blue and shades of green. Um. But but I think

915
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: that's good. But that's all I'm giving him credit for.

916
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: I understand. It's like January. I know, and I get

917
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: the whole Houston. It's probably gonna be a little bit warmer.

918
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: I have found every time we go to Houston, outside

919
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: of barbecue, there is not a whole lot that's worth

920
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: experiencing in the Yeah, probably not probably not so number

921
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: nine for me, So I have I have Pittsburgh ten,

922
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: So you have Houston ten. I had Houston number ten. Okay,

923
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: um number nine for me ninth best road trip? Um,

924
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: I have Atlanta. I have Atlanta at number nine. Um.

925
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: I like Atlanta. Fine, it's a fine big town. Um,

926
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't have the the special it doesn't have the

927
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: special place in my heart that it does for z

928
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Z went to school there. I've been there a lot. Uh.

929
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of sporting events there. Uh. It's

930
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: a fine town. It's really really big. The freeways or

931
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: a disaster they were the last time I was there.

932
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: You couldn't get any there anywhere quick. Um. I would

933
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: probably parlay try to parlay that trip. As I'm thinking

934
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: about this, I would probably want to look at like

935
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: the University of Georgia's schedule and see if there was

936
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: a way to do like a yeah, maybe you double

937
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: dip it a little bit, so you could do either

938
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: Athens or Auburn. Both of those you could try are

939
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: easy drives. You can do either one of those. And

940
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: maybe I Atlanta too low with that I have. I

941
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: have Jacksonville number nine, the one preseason game. And I

942
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: understand there are some things to do outside of Jacksonville,

943
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: but in Jacksonville there's nothing to do. And going to

944
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Florida in August is it's a little tough. Rainy season

945
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: can be a bit brutal, and the humidity, Like I

946
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: don't care about your pools in your stadium. They don't

947
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: allow tail getting more than three hours before or kick.

948
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: I've always been a strong I've got Atlanta too low.

949
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna fly into Atlanta

950
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: on Friday. I'm gonna go to L. S U at

951
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Auburn on Saturday, and then I'm doubling up and I'm

952
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna go to our game against the Falcon. So the

953
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Falcons are actually gonna jump. They're gonna jump some spots here.

954
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: So in that regard, number nine becomes Cincinnati becomes number nine.

955
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's a fine town. We go there every year. Plus

956
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: this game it's in November, right, is it even in December?

957
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: December eleven? Okay? So yeah, So it's gonna be cold,

958
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty bleak. Uh. We get that here.

959
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't need to go see it down there. So

960
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: I'll have Cincinnati number nine on my list. So I

961
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: go Pittsburgh, Cincinnati. I've I have amended. Atlanta's going up

962
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: because I'm turning it into a football Smorgasport, and I'm

963
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: going to L. S U at Auburn. Um. You who'd

964
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: you have at nine? You have Jackson on nine Okay,

965
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I understand there's golfing and there's some other things that

966
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: you can do. Uh, but for the most part that

967
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: road trip sucks. We're not gonna be far off because

968
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: when I get to number eight, I have Jacksonville eight. Um,

969
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: it's not a good city. It's Jacksonville Beach is fine.

970
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: It's not great. It's fine. Um. You you would say

971
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: to yourself, oh, we'll go play Sagas or whatever. Okay,

972
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: like that place ain't worth five hundred bucks around It's not.

973
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: It's not that great. Of course, there you go. You know,

974
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: the back the last three holes are pretty cool. But

975
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: other than that, it's pretty average. Um. There are other

976
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: courses down there too, but Jackson's really spread out. Um,

977
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: it is stunning in retrospect that they have a team. Stunning. Um,

978
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: that's stadium is fine. It's fine, but it's August. It's

979
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna be so humid. Do you think it's humid here

980
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: in August? That's baby stuff compared to what you're getting

981
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: into now. It's like we spent the one year we

982
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: spent a week in Tampa Bay like doing joint practices.

983
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: We had practiced at like eight o'clock in the morning,

984
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: we had to be done and off the field before noon,

985
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: because once noon hit it was awful. Yeah you're done. Yeah, yeah,

986
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: you can't do that. And that's and every year it

987
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: would inevitably storm to the point where I'm on the

988
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: phone making contingency plans that we might have to delay

989
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: this game, and then it would clear up twenty minutes

990
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: before kick. Well, and there's absolutely nothing to do, Like,

991
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: and where do you guys stay when you go to

992
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville downtown? It's downtown. There's nothing there. Well, they well,

993
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: so last time I was there, they had the Jack's Landing,

994
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: but it was it was a ghost town. The only

995
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: time it was cool was Florida Georgia Week. That was it.

996
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: And then that whole stadium filled with from the cocktail party.

997
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: But that was it. Yeah, it's not like there's nowhere

998
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: to go. There's not really a whole lot to do.

999
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: It's it's not everything's at the beach. Yeah, yeah, that's

1000
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: where it is. All right. So I have Jacksonville, uh

1001
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: seven on this or No. Eight on this studio of eight.

1002
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: I put Pittsburgh at number eight simply because while I

1003
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: do enjoy the food and beverage scene in Pittsburgh. The

1004
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: last game of the year is always just a brutal

1005
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: road trip. Yeah, and you're driving. You guys have to

1006
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: bust it. But anybody you drive from here, yeah not great?

1007
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: All right? Uh, Number seven on on my list is

1008
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: where I have Houston. Have Houston seven on the list. Um,

1009
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: the only reason I have it higher is it's probably

1010
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: warmer there. It's early December, it's warm. I'll go eat

1011
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: at Popadose good food. The only positive to get a

1012
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: steak Popadoze seafoods unbelievable down there. Um, you could probably

1013
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: play golf somewhere down there. You couldn't parlay it into

1014
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: anything else, though, I don't know that there's that'd be

1015
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: the first week of December, the Big twelve championship game.

1016
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's in Dallas, so you wouldn't. It's

1017
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: not like you could turn it into a bigger trip.

1018
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: It's see, I've never been the stadiums in the middle

1019
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and it is It's just it is a cavern.

1020
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: Like if you're in the upper deck, you might as well.

1021
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: You're better off watching it at a bar. Yeah, Like

1022
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: it is you're high up in the air and it's not.

1023
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 1: They're probably as as in need of a They almost

1024
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: look like a created team on maddened like they're probably

1025
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: in need of a uniform redo if they just could

1026
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: find I know that they don't own, Like the NFL

1027
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: will not give them that color, that the Oiler's color,

1028
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: because the Oilers, the family, the Adams family, won't give

1029
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: it up. But like I would just pick it light blue,

1030
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: just go light blue and red and and maybe try

1031
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: that because it just they just really really bland everything

1032
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: when it comes to Houston, and it's a great town.

1033
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: It's huge, it's huge, and that maybe that's part of

1034
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: the problem is trying to get around it too big

1035
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: challenge and a half. I will go Atlanta at number seven. Okay, Um, again,

1036
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: we stayed outtown. We don't stay out in the burbs,

1037
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where you want to be. I mean,

1038
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: Atlanta's got three downtowns, downtown, Buckhead, three downtowns like you know,

1039
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: like there's and I haven't been down there since they

1040
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: moved to Baseball Stadium, so I don't even know what

1041
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: that's like up there, you know, northern suburbs. I have

1042
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm sure it's great. Um, alright, so you have. Alright,

1043
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: so we're on the number six, number six, number six,

1044
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: al right, number six, I have. I have Carolina the

1045
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: opener and number six on this list. Caroline. Charlotte seems fine.

1046
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: It's a great town. Yeah, rock O Whalen's got a

1047
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: fantastic restaurant on the rooftop that's worth going to and

1048
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: checking out. Where do you guys say? Again, we stayed

1049
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: on towntown, but like we haven't been there. The last

1050
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: time we played in Carolina, Cam Newton was a starting quarterback.

1051
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: It's been a while. Always seems like their grass is

1052
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: right there, you know, like the turf. It seems like

1053
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: it's nice short. Yeah, I wonder if you could. I

1054
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: wonder if there'd be a way to I don't know

1055
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: my North Carolina geography, well, I wonder if there'd be

1056
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: a way to play like do like a Pinehurst on

1057
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: a Saturday into the game on Sunday like something like that?

1058
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: Is that him play? Hold on? What's our distance? What

1059
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: start traveling from here from pine Hurst to Charlotte? Is

1060
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: it doable? I mean, because when you're doing guys trip

1061
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: or even like guys and gals trip, I'm trying to

1062
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 1: think like how do. I like, I'm not just going

1063
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: for a game. I'm gonna do something else too. Two

1064
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: hours in five minutes. Okay, so it's probably closer to

1065
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: Raleigh then pine Hurst does. You'd probably fly into Raleigh

1066
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: and then spend the night there. Well from here, now

1067
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: you'd you'd have to probably connect I don't know, in

1068
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: Minneapolis to fly to Raleigh. I was trying to put

1069
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: I tell you, I was trying to book to go home,

1070
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: and one of the flights I was trying I actually considered,

1071
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: like flying to Salt Lake City and then driving the

1072
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: six hours from Salt Lake City to my dad's and

1073
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: the flight wasn't that much cheaper. By the time we're

1074
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: in the car, it was a wash. But in order

1075
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: to go from Cleveland to Salt Lake City, I had

1076
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: to go to Atlanta. Because that makes sense. Yeah, that's

1077
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: how bad it is right now, Flying out of here,

1078
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: it's impossible, I think, flying anywhere, but flying out of

1079
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: here especially are not exactly you know, there are just

1080
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: aren't many directs. Yeah, I have plenty of planes flying

1081
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: over my head. Yeah, there's a lot of them, it

1082
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: feels like correct. Yeah, alright, so six I had Carolina,

1083
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: who do you have six. You know what, I think

1084
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll with you on this one. I think

1085
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Carolina as well. Okay, I think it's

1086
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: a fine trip. Yeah, I'll tell you what. With the

1087
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: weather being what it is the time of year, you

1088
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: can't go wrong. You would have a great time in

1089
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Carolina at that point. Yeah, alright, number five. Number five

1090
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: for me, this where I'm gonna put Atlanta. I'm gonna

1091
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: move Atlanta to five because I did that L. S U.

1092
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Auburn thing, so that gets me L s U. Auburn. Um.

1093
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly into Atlanta on Friday, then I'm gonna

1094
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: go over to Auburn for the game Saturday, and then

1095
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back to Atlanta for the game on Sunday. Honestly,

1096
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're doing a better football combo

1097
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: weekend involving our team than that one. Unless one of

1098
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: the magic Yeah, unless one of the Buckeye ones worked

1099
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: out with a good home game. One of them has

1100
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: to like the Iowa game. O High State hosts Iowa Wisconsin,

1101
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's first game of the year, and then Michigan.

1102
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: If one of those lined up that would be the

1103
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: way to top it. But that's the of the road trips.

1104
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: That's the best double you're gonna do. I'm gonna put

1105
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: bou follow at number five. Okay, I'm gonna go Buffalo. Um,

1106
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with Duff Swings. Uh, you can't

1107
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: go wrong with some of the places there. Uh, fan friendly.

1108
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, Bill's Mafia is a little crazy, but they

1109
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: support and everybody forgets. They were one of the two

1110
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: franchises that voted for the Browns not to move when

1111
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: the Browns relocated to Baltimore. So you got you got

1112
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: some you got some fans there. It's a good it's

1113
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: a cool place to watch a game. But November twenty,

1114
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: you're rolling the dice. You're gonna end up with the

1115
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: first big snowstorm in the year. It's up there. It's

1116
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: a little dicey. Uh, number five for me? All right

1117
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: on to number four. I have the the trip to

1118
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: ball More at number four. Um, I think that first

1119
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: of all, I like the city, I like the surrounding areas.

1120
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna go check out Annapolis. I love Annapolis.

1121
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna don't even know it's gonna be gorgeous.

1122
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the leaves are changing late October. That's gonna

1123
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: be gorgon that. That fields awesome. That stadium is awesome.

1124
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: I've been watching the wires so on Baltimore nostalgic anyway,

1125
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I go. Baltimore's number four on my list.

1126
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: I love that stadium. I will go Uh, I will

1127
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: go Cincinnati here number four. The food again, the food

1128
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: and drink scene makes it. Even though it's December, the

1129
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: food and drink scene really completes it. Um. You can

1130
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: get around, you can get into Kentucky a little bit. Um.

1131
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could definitely do that. I would recommend that. Yeah,

1132
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: you could bourbon trail it for sure. You could go

1133
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: down a Lexington. You could go down there, and if

1134
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: you want to make it like a weekend out of it,

1135
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: you could definitely do that there. Um all right, we

1136
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: are what are we at? Number three? Final three? Top

1137
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: top three? Um? I have Washington third New Year's Eve,

1138
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: and simply because it's New Year's Eve. I hate the stadium.

1139
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: It's the worst stadium in the NFL. But um, I mean,

1140
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot to like about anything that's

1141
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: being done in Washington either. Side, just the wild incompetence,

1142
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: but you still can't help. That's always the thing that

1143
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: amazes me, how they can't get anything done, because every

1144
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: time I've been there, I come away feeling inspired, like

1145
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: I want to go read a David McCulloch book for

1146
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: crying out loud about the founding of the country. And

1147
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: every time I'm there, I feel that way, and yet

1148
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: nothing gets done. But I do love that city, and

1149
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: I imagine it would be great. I mean, we stayed

1150
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: at the JW. Marriott, which was a block from the

1151
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: White House. That's awesome. It's cool to walk around and

1152
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: see all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's

1153
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: a fun and it's New Year's Eve. Great restaurants over

1154
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: the Washington Monument probably, yeah, cool little night. Yeah, that's

1155
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: a win. I think that feels like a win. Uh

1156
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: number two at number two for me, I have Buffalo

1157
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: number two. I in Miami simply because where you stay

1158
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: where the game is played, Like we usually stay in Hollywood. Yeah,

1159
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good thirty five forty minutes to

1160
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: South Beach. It's you're you're not in West Palm, You're

1161
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: not You're a ways away. Stadiums out in the middle

1162
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: of nowhere. But I mean you can find It's Miami,

1163
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: it's warm, it's in November. You can find somewhere to eat.

1164
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: That's great, great seafood. Yeah, I went Buffalo to um,

1165
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: I've never been to Buffalo. I I have so much

1166
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: respect for the organization, for the fan base, for the town. Um.

1167
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, in November, you know you're probably gonna work

1168
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: in the Niagara Falls. Go check that out. Like, that's

1169
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: probably how I would do it. Um. But I think

1170
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: it would be cool to go to that. I'm sure

1171
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: that that place is a dump, like that little stadium

1172
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: is probably a dump, But I think it would be

1173
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: fun to go there before they move on to the

1174
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: new one. Yeah, it's kind of a one that you

1175
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: ought to see, very cool experience. I totally agree. So

1176
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo two and then I got Miami number one.

1177
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: I have Baltimore Number one pains me. I think Zagour

1178
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: and I have talked about it. Their stadium is one

1179
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: of the best places to watch a game. It is

1180
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: for sure kills me. I hate saying it. It's October,

1181
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: so it's perfect weather, weather stunning, the weather is perfect.

1182
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: You can go catch I mean maybe maybe you can

1183
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: catch a little Big ten football potentially depending on Yeah,

1184
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where Maryland would be at that time.

1185
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: I would reckon if if they If you wanted to go,

1186
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: what go to a football game, go to Annapolis and

1187
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: go watch the Naval Academy play. If they're there on Saturday,

1188
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: that would be, Uh, that would be the way to

1189
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: do that, if they. If you wanted to watch some

1190
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: college football on Saturday and just to drive out to

1191
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 1: Annapolis is awesome, So that would be that's a plus.

1192
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean that little downtown in the fall would be

1193
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: I've been there in the fall. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable

1194
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: Miami for me. I mean, it's just it's it's November.

1195
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: The weather is gonna start to suck here. And I

1196
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: while you guys stay in Hollywood, I wouldn't. I would.

1197
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: I would stay in Miami Beach right, say, in Ball Harbor.

1198
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I'd stay in Coral Gables like heck, I'd stay in

1199
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: Lauderdale like I'd pick one of the other hotels. There's

1200
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: all sorts of great hotels along the beach there, and honestly,

1201
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: you could you could probably be a pretty good bargain,

1202
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: quite frankly, because I don't think that anyone's traveling in

1203
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: second week in November. No, it's before the Thanksgiving holiday rush.

1204
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, you might be able to get a great

1205
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: hotel at a reasonable rate and you get out of

1206
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: here at the before winter starts. All right, you can

1207
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: go per new in Maryland or Houston at Navy. Yeah, yeah,

1208
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: nobody needs to see Maryland play football, but you could

1209
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: but Naval Academy. That the pageantry of that would be

1210
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: US Marine Corps Stadium. That's a win, that's an absolute win.

1211
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Go do that, Go to Annapolis, sort that out, all right?

1212
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll do a speak of a Big

1213
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: ten football, little strength of schedule, tell you where the

1214
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: Buckeyes sit on all of this, and then Dan Grazzi,

1215
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna join us in about twelve minutes from now.

1216
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,160
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1218
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1219
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,160
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1220
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,720
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1221
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,720
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1223
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports with the College Football Big Ten strength of

1224
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: schedule rankings for uh so, he has Maryland first. Maryland's relevant,

1225
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's got the Buckeyes too on this and

1226
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: I think this is appropriate. Um, oh, i State schedule

1227
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: is really fun. It is really fun. I mean you're

1228
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: talking about Notre Dame to open. You've got Iowa, You've

1229
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: got Wisconsin, You've got Michigan State, you've got Penn State. Michigan.

1230
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: You've got six really really good games, and the sectors

1231
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 1: are broken up to right around the bye week, where

1232
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: the first six are pretty good, the last six are

1233
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: pretty good, the bye weeks right in the middle. Um,

1234
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: it's a good, good schedule for them. It's it's pretty

1235
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: cool that they're Western crossover games or Wisconsin and Iowa.

1236
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: That's that's phenomenal. And both of those games are home.

1237
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna do better than that on the

1238
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: road from Michigan State and Penn State. Yeah, I hope, Yeah, No,

1239
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Well that's up that you know they were

1240
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: at your place last year, so it goes the other way.

1241
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: I would right now, it's not announced yet. Um. I

1242
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: hope that Penn State will be a primetime game. I

1243
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: hope that will be a white out game all the

1244
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: sense in the world. Right, So ABC took the Notre

1245
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Dame game, so their fear is that Fox is going

1246
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 1: to take the Penn State game and make it noon

1247
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: big noon kick. I hope they don't. Penn State is

1248
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: also Penn State's not doing the white out for it

1249
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: either way, they're not. They're doing the white out for

1250
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: they have a homecoming game I think against Maryland or something.

1251
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: They're doing the white out for well, because you can't.

1252
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: It can't be the coolest thing ever if you lose

1253
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: every time you play Ohio State and in the white OUTA. No,

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Speaker 1: that's it. It's really that's simple. Like, they don't they

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01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: can't keep losing the white out game and it to

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Speaker 1: have some sort of mysticism to it. So they put

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: it on a different game and they're in the Ohio

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: State game. I think they're striping the stadium. They're going

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Speaker 1: blue white, blue white. Whatever. Um, that would be my

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: if I had to give you one to go to here,

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: that's the one I'd have you go to. Go to

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State at Penn State. That's awesome, awesome game.

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Speaker 1: Um and then they close with Michigan so that that

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: seems about appropriate. They have Michigan, So Penn State seven

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: on strength of schedule. Holy cow, Michigan's got that Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Who's their nonconference? Oh my god. Their nonconference schedule is

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01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: Colorado State, Hawaiian, Yukon. Come on, they're not playing one

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: team of not one. That's week you gotta go to

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: you have to go to Iowa. But right, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not playing one non conference game Penn State in

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01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Michigan State. You gotta buy in between. Wisconsin's nonconference is

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01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: brutal to Illinois State, Washington State, and Exco State. If

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Speaker 1: you took Notre Dame off of Ohio States schedule, well

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: but the good The thing with Ohio State is they

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Speaker 1: if you took Notre Dame off, they would have played

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: Oregon or they play they would They always play a

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01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: big you know, big state you, or in the case

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01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame, big Catholic you. They always play him

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Speaker 1: in the nonconference. I gotta I'll tell you what. I've

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: had so many people, you know, reach out on tickets

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: on Notre Dame Ohio State. I'm just telling you that

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01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: is a brutal ticket. Brutal. Yeah. We we talked about

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: in the past how um tickets are available for Ohio

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: State games. They become more available in recent years. Is

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: not one of them. My buddies were up here from

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01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: Columbus that I grew up with. We went to the

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: Indians games at Garden Eatings game Saturday night, UM, and

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01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going off of that game? And

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01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: he my, my buddy and his wife don't have kids.

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: They've fantastic jobs. They have an ambulance that's customized, like

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01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: they never even go to the games, but they set

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: up and like an ambulance back doors and it's a

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: sixty in flat screw and they have two cagorators. And

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01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 1: he's like, we're doing the tailgate for Notre Dame and

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, Labor Day weekend. I know we were going

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: to be off, you know. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'll

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: see you down there. Yeah, I need a couch. It'll

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: be fun. It'll be fun. I mean it's gonna be yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, for me, there's the fact that

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, James is back in big week for you. Yeah,

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01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. And then Marcus first game

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01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: coach of Notre Dame in Columbus, after he's said a

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: few things. Yeah, I know, you know, he went on

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: air down there a couple of weeks ago after he

1305
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: said some of that. I think, like Buckeye fan, chill

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: out a little bit. Like he's trying to he's he's

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: got a lot going on, and like it's okay, Like

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: he just because he's trying to sell Notre Dame doesn't

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: mean that it's anything against you. Like he's incredibly coach

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: at Ohio State's got two degree, he's from Ohio State.

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01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: Like it's got nothing to do with that. He's just

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01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: trying to build something in a place that's you know,

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to get him over the hump, and he's

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01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: got to sell what's the best of Notre Dame. And

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: he's if if Michigan doesn't want to play Notre Dame yearly,

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: maybe this can become the yearly thing. Well yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I don't know who knows long term what happens

1318
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: with Notre Dame. From a conference standpoint, Ohio State is

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: scheduled out for like the next decade playing I mean,

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: they play Alabama in coming years. They've played Texas, they

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: played Oklahoma, they played USC So they'll continue to do

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: those type of things going forward. And I think that's

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: what the that's what the constituency wants. You know, you

1324
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: want to play the big Den and then you want

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: to play a big, big game in the non conference.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dan Graziano on the very latest and all

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson stuff kind of paint a picture of

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: where we are with all of this coming up. Next

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Speaker 1: you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, ESPN Cleveland. Alright, great pleasure to head

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Speaker 1: on the hotline for one of the great friends of

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Speaker 1: the program, Dan Graziano, ESPN, joining us. Uh, Dan, let's

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Speaker 1: just start logistically just for our audience, because we get

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: so many reports on what's happening, what's gonna happen where

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: we are. Um so, so what is going to happen tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: As you understand it, just logistically? What is it? It

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: will be a hearing and the presiding officer will be

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Speaker 1: a retired U. S District Court judge named Sue L.

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01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: Robinson who is jointly appointed as the discipline officer by

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: the NFL and the NFL Players Association. This is part

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: of the new collective bargaining agreement that was signed two

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: years ago. It's a different discipline process than we've seen

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: in past years. So there will be a hearing where

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: the league will present its case for why Deshaun Watson

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: should be suspended under the Personal Conduct Policy and for

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: how long, and Watson's attorneys, which include Rusty Harten, who

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: has been representing him in the civil suits uh have

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: been filed against him, and also attorneys from the NFL

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01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: Players Association, will present the k for why they feel

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: Watson either did not violate the Personal Conduct Policy or

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: that the you know, why the suspension should be shorter

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: than what the league proposes. And those hearings could take

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: a couple of days. They're scheduled to start tomorrow um.

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: But again, forecasting how long it will take or when

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01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: she'll render a decision is guesswork, because this is a

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Speaker 1: new process with an arbitration officer that that they haven't

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Speaker 1: used before. Yeah, you mentioned that new process part of it,

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: and kind of the timeline on this, you know, I

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: think everybody wants a nice ribbon and a bow on

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Speaker 1: this and you move forward. But this is really complicated. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of factors that play in this thing.

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Speaker 1: So um, as I understand it and Dan correct me

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Speaker 1: where I'm wrong on this or if I'm wrong. Once

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Speaker 1: once Robinson issues her ruling, then would there not be

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Speaker 1: an appeal process? And then is that a process that's

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: that's heard by Roger Goodell? Yeah, if if she if

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: she rules that he violated the Personal Conduct Policy and

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: imposes a spension of any length or even a fine, honestly, um,

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: then Watson can appeal that and the appeals officer would

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Speaker 1: either be Roger Goodell or someone he designates for that purpose.

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Speaker 1: If she rules that he did not violate the policy

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Speaker 1: and no punishment should be imposed, then that that ends.

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: Then there's no league would not appeal that decision um.

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: So if if it comes back with some kind of punishment,

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: then Deshaun Watson is allowed to appeal that decision um

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: and and Roger Goodell or his designe would be the

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01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: would be the one to hear the appeal. Dan. There's

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: been a lot of reporting in the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks that the Browns and the NFL were kind of,

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01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if negotiating is the right word, but

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: kind of having conversations about this. But there's been reporting

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: that that has broken off recently. How do you understand

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: that part of the process to have played out. I

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: don't know that the Browns were involved. I think Watson

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: side and the league have these things always operate on

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: tire well tracks. Right. When these investigations go on and

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: there's a personal conduct policy issue, oftentimes, uh, if not always,

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: there are settlement discussions along the way. And along the

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01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: way there were talks between Watson and his representatives and

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: the NFL about settling the case. And my understanding is

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Speaker 1: that in those talks, the NFL continued to insist that

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Speaker 1: he'd be suspended for at least one year, and that

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: Watson and his and his people felt that was too much, uh,

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: and that they were they would have accepted something a

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: little shorter, but the league's position was a year, and

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Speaker 1: they never moved off of it. And that is why, uh,

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: there does not appear it could always resurrect, right if

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01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: the league has some reason to come back to them

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: on unsettlement talk until the discipline officer issues are ruling

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: there is that possibility of a settlement, but they're not

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: currently talking about it because they're getting ready for tomorrow's hearing,

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01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: and right now it seems unlikely unless something drastic changes

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Speaker 1: from the league's point of view, Dan, what do you

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Speaker 1: what do you make of that the one year number?

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Is that is your sense that that is a jumping

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: off point for the league or is that the minimum

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01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: for the league's I think those can be two very

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, you know, there was I think that

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal report on Saturday. They're seeking an indefinite

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: suspension lasting at least one year. So I think that's

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: that's a tricky one for them because indefinite or permanent

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01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: ban is a really high bar. And if you impose

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: that and just say he can apply for reinstatement in

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: a year, and you're giving the Commissioner's office control over that,

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: that might be tricky. If they're trying to argue for that.

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they won't, but it might be a

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: tough one for them to win. Uh. So it may

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: be that that a year is kind of a you

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: know what they're shooting for, So um, yeah, we'll see

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: on that. But but I think that indefinite suspense in

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: um slash you know, permanent band, but you can apply

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: for reinstatement after a year. Uh. I just feel like

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01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: that's something that that they would have a hard time

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: getting to fly. But maybe I'm wrong. Again, we don't

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: know anything about this discipline officer in how shall rule

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: or what she'll take into account. No, No, it's it's

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: such a tricky one. There's some other factors here that

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01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: I think, UH factor into into the trickiness of it

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01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: as well. And so back to that length of suspension,

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: um if if you know with that year, he didn't

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: play last year obviously, now that was in a way

1432
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: the NFL has done, you know, him and the Texans

1433
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: did everybody a favor and that this was you know

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: he would he didn't play, and so that was it.

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01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: If you were on Watson's side, would you would you

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01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: be able to argue as that is potentially part of

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01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: time served? Do you think that could be part of

1438
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: their proposal? I haven't heard that, uh, And I think

1439
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: that would be tricky for them because Coson not playing

1440
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: last year was in large part his decision. He didn't

1441
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: want to play for the Houston Texas Texans. He was

1442
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: under contract to them, UM, and he he showed up

1443
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: at the facility, he was there. Just they just left

1444
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: him inactive for every game of the season, so he

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: was paid, uh and he was not suspended. So I

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: think it would be hard to argue for time served

1447
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: because you know, he did draw his salary last year

1448
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: from Houston UH and just they had a mutual agreement

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: that he wasn't gonna play. I mean, if he had

1450
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: said he wanted to play for the Houston Texans last year,

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they had a rough year. I

1452
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: think they probably would have sort of they would have said, thanks, yeah,

1453
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: let's do it, because he's better than the options that

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: we're using. Do you think that there was um and

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: this is completely naive on my from my end, so

1456
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 1: I apologize if it is. In these type of situations,

1457
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: and I acknowledge there haven't been many of them. Do

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: you think that the teams involved, not just the Browns,

1459
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: but the Falcons, the Saints, the Panthers, Miami last year?

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01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: What what is it common or or is this out

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Speaker 1: of the question to approach the league and say, hey,

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: what do you think in on this or is that

1463
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: something that just doesn't happen at all. No, I do

1464
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: think that happens. I don't think they get a lot

1465
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: of help, But I do think that there are situations

1466
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: and last year when teams were talking about trading for

1467
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: him in the off season and at the trade deadline,

1468
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: and then again this offseason, the league definitely fields those

1469
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: calls from teams like, Hey, what are we looking at here?

1470
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about four games, we talked about half a year,

1471
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: We're talked about a whole year. And my understanding from

1472
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: having talked to teams in the past that have done

1473
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: this and have been in that position, is the league

1474
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: does not offer a lot of help that that it's

1475
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: just you know, hey, the process is the process, And

1476
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: especially in this case, every time Roger Goodell or anyone

1477
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: from the league has talked about this case, they have

1478
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: pointed out the collectively bargained nature of this new process

1479
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: and the presence of Sue Robinson and the fact that

1480
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,520
Speaker 1: it's different this time. So while there have been discussions

1481
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: in the league office about timing and do we want

1482
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: to get this resolved now, do we want to wait

1483
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: and see if other cases come out, my understanding is

1484
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell has kind of stood to the side as

1485
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: mainly an observer and watching this process play out because truthfully, look,

1486
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: a big deal is being made of like he's the

1487
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: appeals officer if Watson doesn't like his punishment. But it

1488
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: would be surprising if Robinson made a ruling and Watson

1489
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 1: appealed it and then and then Roger didn't just uphold

1490
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: that ruling, because then you're you're basically announcing to everyone

1491
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: that this new process you agreed to as a sham.

1492
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: So Mike Mike gut would tell me that that he

1493
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: probably will defer to her. Okay, Um, let's let's go

1494
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: to the other part of this. And this isn't directly

1495
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: have anything to do with this case, but it's something

1496
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: the league is dealing with. And I'm sure what the

1497
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: NFLPA will argue is, well, wait a second, you got

1498
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: ownership in Washington that is being subpoenaed in front of Congress. Uh,

1499
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: you have some some the stuff that was going on

1500
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 1: down in Dallas with Jerry Jones. We have Bob Kraft

1501
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: and what happened to him. Is there a sense that

1502
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: you say, hey, are we holding these guys as accountable

1503
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: as we're holding a player and and will that pass

1504
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: the mustard for for goodalar for for Robinson. Well, that's

1505
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: the that's I think with the union is gonna So

1506
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: when you think about what's gonna happen on Watson's side,

1507
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: Rusty Harden and his legal team will will argue, like

1508
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: the facts of the case, right, if the NFL presents

1509
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: something and they say, well that's not true, that that's

1510
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: that's that's hard inside, what the NFL p A will

1511
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: do is argue what you're saying, right, precedent and procedure

1512
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 1: and leased on precedent. Uh, this is an unfair punishment

1513
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: based on the fact that you don't hold your owners

1514
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: to the same standard as as you do players. This

1515
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: is an unfair punishment. So you're right. That is part

1516
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: of the the NFL p A strategy with regard to

1517
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: this year and throwing the fact that the Houston Texans

1518
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: were added to the lawsuits today, you know, the p

1519
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: A will say, look, if that if obviously the Texans

1520
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: were okay with this behavior, if they knew about it

1521
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: as these lawsuits alledge, so that that will be their

1522
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: argument again. And I hate to continue to leave this open. Edit.

1523
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: We we we don't know if she'll if she'll agree with

1524
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: that position or not. She might say no, that has

1525
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. The owners are not, um,

1526
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, part of this b A in terms of

1527
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: how it governs them, and and so that argument falls flat.

1528
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but that will definitely, You're absolutely right,

1529
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: that will be a big part of what the nfl

1530
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: p A presents in front of her in this series.

1531
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: It's just so complicated, isn't it. I mean, there's so

1532
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: many layers to it, Dan, I I don't know that anybody.

1533
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: It's funny I read all of this. I read the

1534
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: Wall Street story over the weekend. We we try to

1535
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: keep pace. Uh. You you're obviously on top of the

1536
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: procedural part of it and how all this goes. But

1537
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I could see anything coming out of this.

1538
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to even know how this could go or

1539
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: when right now. I think obviously, I think the league

1540
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: wants it wrapped up by training camp. We just don't

1541
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: know if if Sue Robinson will oblige them. Uh, they

1542
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: they'll have a month, right if the hearing lasts a

1543
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: couple of days, is still almost exactly a month till

1544
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: training camp starts. I think it's a month today right

1545
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: with the Browns. So yeah, I think, um, I think

1546
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance it wraps up by training camp.

1547
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: We just have to hedge. I can't say I'm sure

1548
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: because again no one is uh so, yeah, complicated case,

1549
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: no question about it. The lawyers are there for that purpose.

1550
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, what what fans want to know is

1551
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: how long has he give be suspended? Four? When's he

1552
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: gonna play? Right? And uh, you know, it sounds like

1553
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: some kind of significant suspension is coming, whether the league

1554
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: wins the day and get some suspended for a whole year,

1555
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: or whether um the discipline officer rules that the suspension

1556
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: should be something shorter than that or no suspension at all.

1557
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: But I think the latter is unlikely. It sounds like,

1558
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, especially if there were settlement talks, were Watson

1559
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: on his side, we're talking about what they would accept

1560
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: in terms of a suspension if they were doing that,

1561
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to expect that the result

1562
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: of this will be he'll miss hess some significant number

1563
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: of games. And the Robinson part of it is the

1564
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: new wrinkle on this because previously, you know, a lot

1565
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: of times people want to bring up whether it would

1566
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: be Roethlisberger or Elliott or any of those other instances,

1567
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: and all of those, by the way, we're violent. There's

1568
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: no violence accused here, although we all know what is

1569
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not making making light of it at all,

1570
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: just just very different. But because Robert the Robinson part

1571
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: of it is what changes it, right, that's what allows

1572
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: for us to not really know how this is going

1573
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: to go. And this is the first one of these

1574
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: under the new CB A correct in correct, it's the

1575
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: first personal conduct policy that has reached this point under

1576
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: the new CB, which established the existence of this discipline officer. Yes, yeah,

1577
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: that's I don't know well that I'll tell you what.

1578
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: We got a lot smarter on how this is all

1579
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna go with my friend. And we always appreciate your

1580
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: time so much. Um it's it's awful complicated and it's uh,

1581
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of anybody's best guests. So UM, I really

1582
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today on short notice. Always my pleasure.

1583
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, that's the great Dan Graziano and ESPN.

1584
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: I think from a procedural standpoint, if you want to

1585
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: just understand where you're at and and where you know,

1586
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: because I get it all the time. You get it

1587
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: all the time. Everybody associated gets it all the time.

1588
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: When are we gonna know? How long is it gonna be?

1589
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: And I keep saying I don't know, and they're like, well, wait,

1590
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: how don't you know? You're in the building because nobody knows,

1591
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: because this is brand new p sident. Nobody knows how

1592
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: she's going to respond, Nobody knows what type of a

1593
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: precedent is trying to be set. Honestly, with all the

1594
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: reporting out there, you know, take a lot of it

1595
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: with a grainerous grain of salt. You don't know what

1596
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: the motive of that information being put out there is.

1597
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: What's the reason for that? Remember, everything happens for a

1598
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: reason lesson from the from the wire, all the pieces matter. Um.

1599
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: But but when you when you kind of just think

1600
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: about how this process is going to go, Dan laid

1601
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: it out as succinctly as you can in terms of

1602
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: what comes of the process. Who knows, Yeah, and you

1603
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know how she's gonna handle things tomorrow, you know,

1604
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: is it is it going to be like a courtroom

1605
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: type setting? Is that a a position? Is it is

1606
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: it an arbitration type deal? You submit your stuff, you

1607
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: submit your stuff. I asked the questions that need to

1608
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: be asked, and I'll give you a ruling. So it

1609
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: sounded like it sounded like the way it would go

1610
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: just chronologically from Dan there. And this is the way

1611
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: that I understood it as well, That the NFL would

1612
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: serve in a sense as the prosecution, and it would

1613
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: present its case Rusty Harden. Now this was this was

1614
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: new information. Rusty Harden then would present Watson's case after

1615
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: the NFL presented there so then what Harden would present

1616
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: his and then the NFL p A would come in

1617
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: under Harden and say this is what we recommend, which

1618
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: is not how I understood it. I understood it at

1619
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: the end prior to Dan coming on, I thought it

1620
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 1: was the NFL p A that was speaking on behalf

1621
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: of the Watson party. That is clearly not the case. No, No,

1622
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: it seems like it will go NFL Harden Watson's attorneys

1623
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: and then and then NFL p A would jump in

1624
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: after and and handle that part of it. Um. But

1625
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: it's all new, it's all new. It's a brand new

1626
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: process and it's a brand new way of going about it.

1627
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: And you know, I think everybody wants resolution on this. Uh,

1628
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: they want it quickly, you might not get it that quickly. Um,

1629
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: just from a timeline standpoint, just to reiterate, you know,

1630
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: this week is wide open to get this done. If

1631
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: you could come up with something this week, you will

1632
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: get an appeal based on whatever this unless there's not obviously,

1633
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: but if if there's a spension in down, there would

1634
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: be an appeal. Dan brought up a great point that

1635
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 1: he'd be surprised if Goodell undermine the ruling because this

1636
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: was appointed to keep him from doing that, and so

1637
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: but you would still he would still here appeal. But

1638
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: then next week everybody's out. Correct. Now he could take

1639
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: that appeal and he could delegate that to another independent person.

1640
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: He could bring in an independent party so he doesn't

1641
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: have to rule, but would make the final say on

1642
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: that right. And Robinson is the mutually agreed upon independent party.

1643
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: So that's what makes the appeal part. While it will

1644
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: take some time, you don't know what it will net

1645
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: one way or another. Correct. The problem is the whole

1646
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:09,440
Speaker 1: appeal process. If the league is fighting for a certain

1647
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: length of suspension, which you hear, we hear that could

1648
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: be the case, but we don't know that to be true.

1649
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: If the league is advocating for a certain length, they're

1650
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: not gonna How realistic is your appeal process? Yeah, very

1651
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,520
Speaker 1: much so. Um. All the while, I've seen reporting in

1652
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: in regard to the rest of the roster, in the

1653
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, reporting in Carolina and Seattle that trade talks

1654
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 1: are heating up there. Um in regard to the Baker

1655
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: in those Baker jerseys supposedly popped up Seahawks Jersey. I

1656
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe any of that. I can

1657
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: know who knows what could come of that. Um. But

1658
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You're talking about July go time, So

1659
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: you've got a little bit of time here. You're not

1660
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: at def con one with this thing, but you are

1661
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: teaching at a point where you want some sort of

1662
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: resolution happening relatively quickly on it. And you've got some

1663
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: pretty good clarity on exactly how that process will go

1664
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: and what to expect of it from Dan. He's a

1665
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: great friend. He did a great job with that, so

1666
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: much more to come. You listen to cle the Bronze

1667
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Daily on ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on e S

1668
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: p N Cleveland. I just, um, I was thinking that

1669
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Stanley Cup earlier. The head coach

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Speaker 1: of Colorado, Jared Bednar, he was here. Yeah, in here too,

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Speaker 1: So that was a lot of a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I got married, actually my wedding night. They want it all.

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Speaker 1: They buddies grabbed a bunch of booze and shook it

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Speaker 1: up and spread the entire bar. It's a win up anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's also a win saying this. The next level was

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Speaker 1: coming up next. We're back tomorrow. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: Buddy Cleve the Bronze Daily, ESPN Cleveland. You've been listening

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