1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, d J. Bucky here, moved the sticks 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: less than a week away from our travel to Indianapolis 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: for the NFL Scouting Combine. Buck, what's going on? Not 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: too much, man, Just trying to knock out some of 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: these last guys to make sure I'm fully prepared for 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: the combine. A lot of interesting guys kind of popping 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: up when you kind of dig in the tape, not 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: just the notable guys, but the guys that could be 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: sleepers that we will talk about when we leave to combine. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: No doubt, it's a fun process where I am. I've 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: got some uh, some secondary guys look at. I'm kind 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: of finishing up the safeties in the corners and then 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: hoping to have that wrapped up by this weekend before we, 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: uh we get ready for the combine. So a lot 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: of tape work still be done there. We've got some 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: ground to cover on the pot today. Buck, We've got 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: some some latest news around the NFL. A couple of 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Steelers topics will dig into um as well as I 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about the future of the combine where 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: that's headed what's uh, what's that look like? How is 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: scouting going to change as we go forward? Um, we're 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna look at the offensive line and tight end positions. 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: What'll be looking for in those workouts when we look 25 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: back at some of the top workouts over the last 26 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: few years and the top position players, So, uh, some 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: ground to cover there as well. UM, I think we 28 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: start right here at the top. Buck just kind of 29 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: some of the some of the more breaking news. I 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: guess Levan Bell not gonna be tagged your thoughts? I mean, 31 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: I think you know, I'm not necessarily surprised that he's 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: not tagged. He didn't show up last year when he 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: had a oportunity play on the franchise tag Um. I mean, look, 34 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars that he walked away from. That is 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: tough and I don't know if he'll be able to 36 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: make it up, but he was trying to stand on principle. UM. 37 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing when it comes to the 38 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: combination of lev Levyan Bell not being there and then 39 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Antonio Bryant Brown probably being shipped off. UM. I think 40 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still has obviously had a cultural problem in the 41 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: locker room, and I think this is an opportunity for 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: the team, the head coach, and the general manager to 43 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of reassert themselves, re established the culture of the 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: locker room, try and get back to being a little 45 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: more um team oriented. And I'm not necessarily in the 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: camp that levying Bill and A B were um selfish 47 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: to her fault. I'm just saying that the chemistry for 48 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: whatever reason didn't line up with Big Ben A B 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: and let Bill. So they're all in and committed that 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: this is Ben Roethlisberger's team, for better for worse. He's 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. He has kind of been anointed 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: as the leader of the squad, and I know a 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of the people around Pittsburgh, the fans and stuff, 54 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: kind of appreciate that and maybe like that because he's 55 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But I will say as a flawed leader, 56 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: I just think that if he doesn't mature as a leader. 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't how much you can mature at thirty seven 58 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: in terms of leadership, but if he doesn't mature, this 59 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: team will never reach the heist that they could have 60 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: reached and they potentially can reach in the future with 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: him as a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I just the 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: tough part about this from from our perspective on the 63 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: outside is when you hear, you know, this whole leadership 64 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: discussion and what's good and what's not good for that 65 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: locker room. It's just hard to know the dynamics of 66 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: each of these individual places, you know, and we kind 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: of go off what we hear and and and what 68 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: you see reported. Um. But I don't know. I don't 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: know what Antonio Brown was like to deal with in there. 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give Ben a free pass um, 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: you know, but it's just it's hard. It's just we 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: we did incomplete information, you know what, I mean to 73 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: go all in on that topic. No, I think, and 74 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I think, and I will say this, regardless of how 75 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: they acted individually, collectively, it didn't work. Collectively, it wasn't 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: working when you just go back and we just look 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: at the last year and the things that we have seen. Uh, 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Levan Bell doesn't show up. The offensive line kind of 79 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: takes issue with him. A B misses practice days because 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: he may have had a protest because he didn't young 81 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: balls hit in his direction. Big Ben then says later 82 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: that Juju Smith Schuster is a number one and if 83 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: he could he would throw to him all the time. 84 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Like just so many conversations and so many kind of 85 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: like back channel discussions that you just don't hear from 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: good teams. And I think it kind that goes back 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: to what we said last year when the Philadelphia Eagles 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: wanted and what we continue to say this year when 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: we look at the Patriots. Regardless of what we say 90 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: about the talent on your team, the puzzle pieces must 91 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: fit and the culture of the locker room has to 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: be right. And if those things aren't aligned, no matter 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: how talented you are, you're not going to win the championship. 94 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting if you kind of went team 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: by a team, and if you look at every organization 96 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: like a pyramid, you know who's at the top of 97 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the pyramid. For each organization, you'll find different answers in 98 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: terms of the roles, right. I mean, you can look 99 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: at the Patriots, no question, Bill Belichick is the top 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: of the pyramid. He runs that show, that is his operation. 101 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Everybody looks to him as the leader. He's the guy. Uh. 102 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: You look at the Dallas Cowboys, it's the owner Jerry Jones. 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is the one that has is at the 104 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: top of the pyramid. For the Pittsburgh Stealers, it might 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: be Ben, you might have a player that's at the 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: very top of the pyramid, and and and and to me, 107 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: that is crazy, and I do wonder coming out of that. 108 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: And I'll say this point blank, for whatever reason, to 109 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers fans have a love hate relationship with the coach, 110 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Uh, Mike Tomlin is one of the most 111 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: successful coaches in NFL history. Yet if you listen to 112 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the outside, if you follow the Twitter verse, they will 113 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: tell you that he sucks, or that he's not a 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: good culture, that he is underachieved with what he has 115 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: been dealt and Bill Cower and those other guys would 116 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: have won more or whatever. I mean. I can't dispute 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: it because it's hypothetical. But I can't say that this 118 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: dude is on track to do some of the stuff 119 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: that Don Shula and others have done in this league. 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I will say, though, that a team is ultimately the 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: reflection of the head coach. And I am a Mike 122 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: Tomlin fan. I was considering him a friend, but I 123 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: will say he is very, very emotional, and sometimes when 124 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: you have any emotional coach. You have these emotional ebbs 125 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and flows when it comes to the team. When we 126 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: look at the Patriots, I don't sense that Bill Belichick 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: is a very emotional guy. He is more of a 128 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: stoic um analytical type, and I think his team's kind 129 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: of reflect that. And so I think this is an 130 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: opportunity from Mike Thomlan to re examine his own leadership 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: style and as he's rebuilding this team on the fly, 132 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that this team really reflects what he 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: believes in and that he can kind of take control 134 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: of the locker room, much like Pete Carroll did a 135 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: season ago when he let a bunch of guys go 136 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: and the team kind of went back to what the 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: core and the essence of what he believed in and 138 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: we saw them win games. Mike Tomlin has a similar challenge. 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: That's I'm glad you mentioned because as my next point 140 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: was gonna be to me, they have two options really 141 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: going forward with this team. Either you're gonna bring in 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a new head coach with kind of the current group 143 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: and hope that you just kind of tweaked the formula 144 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, Okay, we're gonna bring in 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: a new head coach and hopefully this existing older core 146 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: that we have maybe we can try and get you know, 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: maybe we can squeeze one more out of this out 148 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: of this current group. Or if you're gonna move forward 149 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin, you did a great job of laying 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: out his resume and where he backs up historically with 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: some of the greats. If you're gonna move forward with 152 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, to me, I think it is a Pete 153 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Carroll reset. I think it's let's reset the roster. Let's 154 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: make this message be new again. And the way you 155 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: do that as you bring in a bunch of young players, 156 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna be hearing these messages from from coach Tomlin 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: for the first time and try and reboot this thing 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: with him as the focal point, him as the leader. Um. 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I cannot be uh optimistic buck 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: about what's coming back on the roster, what's leaving the roster, 161 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: the turmoil that exists, and I keep coming back to 162 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it every time we talked about the Steelers. Munchak is huge. Man. 163 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: You lose you lose an offensive line coach like that, 164 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: that is huge. So I don't know it from the 165 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: outside looking in, and you look at where Cleveland is 166 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: in their process, where Baltimore is in their process. Um, 167 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what Cincinnati does. And they've got 168 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: they've got a new head coach in there. Maybe that 169 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: brings them some life. But I don't feel great about it. 170 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it from the Steeler standpoint. 171 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: And the the last thing I'll mention the other kind 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: of area of this story, and this is kind of 173 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: what's come out over the last days. Did you see 174 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the report from miniche Meta from the New York Daily 175 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: News saying talking about Levi on Bell and free agency, 176 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: he's been he's been paired with the Jets by a 177 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: lot of people. Make sense, you need to give Sam 178 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Donald some help. But Bucky said the quote on the quote, 179 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: the word on the street, the old word on the 180 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: street is that lev Bell is game thirty five pounds 181 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: during the off season was up to about two sixty. 182 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: And when you think back to the evaluation of him 183 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: coming to the draft process, he played in the two 184 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: forties to forty five. I believe, and we all meant, 185 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: I know, I did, I know A bunch of people 186 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: did viewed him as well. Second round pick. He's doesn't 187 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of juice, but he's a powerful, instinctive runner. 188 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: Gets the NFL low and behold, he drops twenty pounds 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: buck and he was a different football player. So if 190 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: that weight really has fluctuated, and the somebody gets a 191 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: picture or some kind of evidence that he really did 192 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: put on thirty five pounds, that's gonna cost him a 193 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: boatload of money. It will cost him a boatload of money. 194 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that he would gain 195 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: thirty five pounds knowing what is on the line and 196 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: also knowing um what he's kind of put himself under 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: in terms of the spotlight by sitting out this year. 198 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: He has put it all on him where he is 199 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: public enemy number one. Everyone is looking at his every move. 200 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: If he has allowed himself to get out of shape, 201 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: obviously it's a red flag. Coming out of college, I 202 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: compared him to Stephen Jackson. That's what he reminded me 203 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: of when I watched me in Michigan State. He reminded 204 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: me of the former Oregon State star and the Ramp star. 205 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: For a long time, big physical, powerful guy. He completely 206 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: remade his body and changed his game to the point 207 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: where he became ultimately the ultimate weapon at running back, 208 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: a guy who could play as a running back but 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: also make plays as really a quasi wide receiver. If 210 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: he has allowed himself to get big and he is 211 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: no longer that dynamic threat, he not only cost himself money, 212 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: but he's kind of taken years off his career because 213 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: I believe that the way that he played the last 214 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: time we saw him, I would allow him to age gracefully, 215 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: that even if he lost a step or two, he 216 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: still would be a guy that could it out and 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: give you contributions as a receiver and some of those things. 218 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: But you know, all best are off when it comes 219 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to him and not being able to show up in 220 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: shape and those things. So we'll see. We'll see if 221 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: he gets to pay. They did it desires, we'll see 222 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it was all worth it. I think the bigger thing 223 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: with the fascination with the Pittsburgh still the situation to 224 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: fall out. I tweeted yesterday addition by subtraction could actually 225 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: work for them. But when I look at this division 226 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland and Baltimore, you talked about those teams being well positioned. 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean that this division to me is wide open 228 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: and even though I am ready to say a Cleveland 229 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: could make a move. How do the Browns handle being 230 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: the team that was kind of climbing up to hill 231 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: to now everyone is expecting to be at the top 232 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: of the hill. Can they handled the little level of 233 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: success that they had last year? And how did they 234 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: respond with the new will An inter room head coach 235 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: now as the new head coach have people in new roles, 236 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: there um no doubt with Freddy Kittens taken over as 237 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cleveland Brown Um. One thing 238 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I would do free advice. I believe I believe leve 239 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Bell is still wrapped by a decent Bacari who reps 240 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: our buddy m j D has wrapped a lot of 241 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the top running backs in the league adca. I would 242 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: blast out a quick video, uh whether the next probably 243 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of leve Bell playing basketball or leve 244 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Bell throwing a football on the beach, just some way 245 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: where people can see his body type and and just 246 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of eliminate the whole he weighs two hundred sixty 247 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: pound things I would I would get something out on 248 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: that quick. Yeah, I think, I mean that's that's that's 249 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: something that certainly has to be done. And I think, Um, 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: what you have to do is you have to be 251 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: able to kind of handle some of this because some 252 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: of this is done to drive down the price, to 253 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: kind of put like a little black cloud over to 254 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: make it uh an issue uh one where we kind 255 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: of talk about him in a negative life. So yeah, 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: that would be a great pr plan to go out there, 257 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: show him working out, show what he looks like, to 258 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: put a thing on since he's so media social media friendly, 259 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: put a thing on Instagram. Let people know what you 260 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: really look like, what you've been working out, what you've 261 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: been doing, uh, and where you are in the process, 262 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: because that is the big thing. When you have a 263 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: year layoff, you do wonder how long will it take 264 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: for him to shake off the rust and giving his 265 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: issues in the past, uh, particularly injuries and stuff. You 266 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: want to make sure that he shows up in reports 267 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: in Tiptops two, they have no doubt. I want to 268 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the future of the combine 269 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: and before we get to talking about these offensive linement 270 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: and tight ends. Buck, We've talked about this in the 271 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: past about virtual reality. You know how we thought that 272 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: would be the wave of the future. Here you getting 273 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: these guys in the interview rooms, putting on the virtual 274 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: reality glasses and headset or whatever you wanna call it, 275 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: and being able to look at defenses, see what they see. 276 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, for a quarterback, take us through your read 277 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: and you can watch what they're looking at. Um, you know, 278 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: call out the mic, whatever you can do whatever offensive 279 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: line of defense, linen, you could get a really really 280 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: cool uh look And that could be an advancement there 281 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: in scouting at the combine. The other thing I was 282 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: thinking of the other day, talked to to a buddy 283 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: with the team. You know the Zebra technology we had 284 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl where they put the GPS stuff 285 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: you can really track. They can tell you who's run 286 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: the fastest mph of all these players, And I just wonder, 287 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, to be the most accurate representation, And are 288 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: we gonna five years from now, maybe it's a little 289 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: bit longer than that we get to the combine, buck, 290 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: but there's no stopwatches. We're just gonna say how fast 291 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: can they accelerate? And you'll be able to look at 292 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: their their acceleration from zero to ten, what's their peak 293 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: miles per hour over a certain distance? Um, you can 294 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: watch them go through the whole workout. You'd be able 295 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: to monitor their heart rate, UM, their ability to decelerate 296 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and change direction, all that stuff. There's the technology is 297 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: already out there where we could we could be able 298 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: to capture those numbers and those images and and forty 299 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: times and and three cones, all that stuff. It's gonna 300 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: be irrelevant. We're not gonna use stop watches anymore. We're 301 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna have the technology to real time track how these 302 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: guys are performing and be able to track their heart 303 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: rate and everything else to go along with it. Yeah, 304 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: because the stuff that you're bringing up, the Zebra technology, 305 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: being able to get an accuris gauge on output acceleration 306 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: uh at the heart rate, those are the things that 307 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: are already being done uh as soccer leagues over in Europe, 308 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: like they they have always been ahead of the curve 309 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to GPS naming. NFL teams are doing 310 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: it for their own guys at practice, but we haven't 311 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: incorporated into the evaluation. You know, it would be something 312 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: like if we're really talking about evaluating players and doing that, obviously, 313 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it'd be a c B A issue and 314 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: you have to kind of work through that part of it. 315 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: But I do believe if you want to get a 316 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: gauge on the real explosiveness and you want to take 317 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: the human element out of it, Yeah, that technology is there, 318 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: and I think years ago, uh maybe under armored with 319 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: sponsoring or outfitting the guys and they put kind of 320 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: the stuff on the shirt. I remember one year where 321 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: they could kind of track and monitor it. But now 322 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about Zebra technology and the way that we 323 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: have kind of easily, um kind of fallen in love 324 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: with the analytics and the data and the numbers. Yeah, 325 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I think that would be something to to certainly watch 326 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to other players, and as in terms 327 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: of the virtual reality piece, when it comes to quarterbacks, 328 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: that is something that would be really really interesting because 329 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: it will be fascinating to know what they really really 330 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: know and if you're a team and maybe in your 331 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: room and maybe we'll see teams in their room kind 332 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: of do some of this where they're putting virtual reality coverage. 333 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Asking guys to make reads and do things based on 334 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: what they know from college and kind of figure out 335 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: how quickly they pick it up. That stuff is is fascinating. 336 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I can say that years ago in a lead eleven 337 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: when we had the young quarterbacks, we did some of 338 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: these things and kind of we're able to conduct extra 339 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: practices or get them extra reps and monitor how they 340 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: progressed when it came to reads and decisions and that stuff. 341 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it's not a big part 342 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: of what teams are doing in the combine privately and 343 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: eventually becomes a public thing where everyone knows that all 344 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are going to go through some kind of 345 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: virtual reality evaluation. I mean, and we look at you know, 346 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: how does a guy throw um, you know, with accuracy 347 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: and anticipation. Well, I mean you can in velocity. You 348 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: could be a baseball. They talk about spin rate. They 349 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: have that technology where they can tell you exactly how 350 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: many uh revolutions the ball is having. Who curveballs? Who's 351 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: got the tightest curveball. It used to be just kind 352 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: of you just say he's got a tight well, what 353 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: is a tight curveball? Um? They have the technology to 354 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: give the precise spin rate. You can be able to 355 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: have the technology. We've seen it last year with some 356 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: of the stuff that Dilford was doing. When the ball 357 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: leaves the hand, the technology exists. Once that ball comes 358 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: off your finger, your fingertip, you be able to tell, okay, 359 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the ball is released from his fingertip, and I can 360 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: look before the receiver is out of the break. I 361 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: can be able to actually put numbers on that and 362 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: quantify that with like how much anticipation is he really 363 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: thrown with? Um, that information is all going to be 364 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, I mean it is going to be 365 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: out there. What we're trying to do is you want 366 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: to take some of the subjectivity out of the evaluation, 367 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and the way that you can do it is by 368 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: using the dat into technology to really help you. Um, 369 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's It's one of those things where 370 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: like old school guys may have a tough time doing it, 371 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: but I can see the younger, hipper general managers and 372 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: scouting directors wanting this information and wanting to have the 373 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: ability to take what we call that hard data and 374 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: to be able to match it up with what we 375 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: call the film work in the eyeball test and to 376 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: do that. And I've always believed the teams that are 377 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: able to really have football minds who can really understand 378 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: the analytics are gonna be the teams that begin to 379 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: separate themselves from the others. Yeah, next gen stats. I 380 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: mean you've done a bunch of stuff with the next 381 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: gen stats we have at the NFL level, which is 382 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: really cool. Uh, to be able to look at things 383 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: like separation. I remember, I think you were one of 384 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: the guys using that technology, using that information that was 385 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: readily available early on in the process. Were you kind 386 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: of anticipated and predicted the decline of Dez Bryant because 387 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: you were looking at saying, look, he's like one of 388 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the worst in the league in terms of getting separation. 389 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: We can say, I don't think this guy can run. Uh, 390 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: that's an opinion. What's not a a and is he 391 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: gets less separation than any wide receiver in the NFL. 392 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: That's a fact like that. That's the type of information 393 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: that we can see going through the scouting process, not 394 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: just having access to it at the NFL level. Yeah, 395 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: those those things are good, you know, And I used 396 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: next inst That's a lot when it comes to to 397 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: writing and looking at the game and understanding the various 398 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: different things that it can bring, whether it's the personnel 399 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: grouping or individual performance or the quarterback hit charts where 400 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are throwing the ball and once they put the 401 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: chip in the ball and that other stuff, then we 402 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: really get a gauge of uh some more stuff. And 403 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: so it is fascinating. I think if you just kind 404 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: of marry it like that data with football stuff, I 405 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: think you can make some advances and I think you 406 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: can be one step ahead of the curve. And we 407 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: have seen how it has impacted baseball. And I'm not 408 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: saying that football and baseball the sports that are similar 409 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to that, but we're seeing how the 410 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: analytical decisions are driving some of the uh, some of 411 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: the way the game is played in baseball. I do 412 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: believe analytics can enhance and impact the way the games 413 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: being played uh in the National Football League, and it 414 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: also can enhance what we're trying to do from the 415 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: scouting perspective. And no doubt it's gonna be uh it's 416 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch which teams kind of get 417 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: to the forefront on this, you know, and UH, I 418 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: be interested to know, like cb A wise, I'll ask 419 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: around to some buddies. But you know what, the they 420 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: have these local workouts, So for those who don't know, 421 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: you go through the combine process. People have their Pro 422 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Day and NFL teams are not allowed to just bring 423 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: anybody into their facility and have them work out for 424 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: them for the draft. But you have a local workout, 425 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: meaning players that grew up. If you're the if you're 426 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, Los Angeles Chargers, the teams that 427 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: grew up or the players that grew up in the 428 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles or attended college. I believe it's 429 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: as well right attended college. I think it's like it's 430 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: the seventy rules, So I think there are some local 431 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: guys and guys if you're in a seventy five mile 432 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: ratings to the metropolitan area, you can show up. Yeah, 433 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: and maybe it is might even just been high school 434 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: on over was college but be high school. You can 435 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: bring those guys into your facility, um, and then you 436 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: can put them their workout. I wonder if at those 437 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: local workouts, if you can outfit these guys, if the 438 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: c b A allows it to outfit them with some 439 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: of that Zebra technology to be able to track some 440 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: of those things, I mean, that would that would be great. 441 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: You know, That's how the Minnesota Vikings were able to 442 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: find Adam Feeling at a local workout. And many people 443 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: didn't know about him. That would be a great way 444 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: to discover, um, maybe not draftable guys, but maybe some 445 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: of those highway speed guys that we typically like to 446 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: put on the training camp roster. You just see what 447 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: will happen if they get an opportunity in the league 448 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: being able to put that technology, the GPS stuff, to 449 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: monitoring stuff, to just kind of see the explosiveness and 450 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: the fitness level, because I think when you talk about 451 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: the heart rate, that does speak to the fitness level. UM. 452 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: To be able to look at some of those things. Look, 453 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: you you should always be trying to find any edge 454 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: in a league that is very, very competitive and the 455 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: parodies there. You need to be able to kind of 456 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: use some of the technology advances together to give you 457 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: just that that the little edge that we're all looking for. 458 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, you know. I just can imagine 459 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: what it's gonna be like when we get to the 460 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: point at the combine UM and they'd probably have somebody 461 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: collectively bargained where we can see as the public, you know, 462 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: you can see the real time numbers as they're coming 463 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: in on all these guys and not having to wonder 464 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: you know how explosive is this guy. Well, here you go, 465 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: he's run twenty one within you know, blink amount of time, 466 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be that'd be fun to track. It 467 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: would be fun to track. I think the only thing 468 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: that that you would have to do is it would 469 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: then take a football person to be able to kind 470 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: of break down those numbers. So a twenty one miles 471 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: an hour we'll probably equate to a guy that is 472 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: running four four three over the course of a thing 473 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: like and I don't think that is necessarily a hard 474 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: deal is looking at some guys that we have numbers on, 475 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: like at Deshaun Watson, like we know what he runs, 476 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: we know what he ran into the combin and being 477 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: able to take oh well, in game his miles per 478 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: hour or this, So that kind of puts you in 479 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: this range in this bucket. If we do some of 480 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: those things, I just think it to give us a 481 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: better understanding exactly of what the player is and what 482 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: he's bringing to the table. Think about this and I 483 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: could go on this forever. We'll move on after this point. 484 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: But um, we talk about again with baseball pictures that 485 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: maintain their velocity, they maintain their stuff deep into a start, 486 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: we run, we run two forties, they get a long 487 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: break between them. You know, that's not the way the 488 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: game is played. You you're going, You're the game is moving, 489 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: you're running. How about being able to track through that workout? Okay, 490 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: we're running a couple of takeoff routes early in the workout, 491 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: then we're going through the rest of the route tree 492 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Does he maintaining he 493 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: maintain his speed? Is he's strong enough to maintain his 494 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: speed at the end of a thirty forty minute workout. 495 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I think that would be the thing. I think the 496 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: thing would be like beyond the forties, uh, having that 497 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: technology to be able to monitor how explosive they are 498 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the route tree, being able to 499 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: see this is how fast he was at the beginning 500 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: when they're doing those quick outs and speedouts and those things, 501 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: and here's where he is at the end when we're 502 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: asking him to run the goals and the deep post corners. 503 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Does he have the endurance to be able to maintain 504 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: a high level of speed and explosive this throughout the 505 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: course of a thirty to forty five minute workout. I 506 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: think that is something that would be invaluable because we've 507 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: talked about the story of Jerry Rice and people talking 508 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: about Woul Jerry Rice only ran four six, but he 509 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: ran it over and over and over over the course 510 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: of the game. And so when you look at some 511 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: of these players, Um, and let's let's use Tied Gurley 512 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: as an example, because it came out yesterday that they 513 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: felt like Tyed Gurley wore down at the end of 514 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: this season. So well, let's see which guys are more 515 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: susceptible to being uh, worn down at the end of workouts, 516 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: at the end of games, at the end of a month, 517 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: two months, three months into the season. You want all 518 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: of that technology because it not only less you know 519 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: what the player is, but it's the information that the 520 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: coaches need so they understand how to better utilize them. Yeah. 521 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: And also will help with injury prevention, no doubt. Uh. 522 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons the NFL teams use 523 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: that technology and practice be able to say, we need 524 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: to back off this guy. He's exerting a little bit 525 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: too much energy. Um. So it's cool. It's gonna be 526 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: fun to see where the technology takes us. On the 527 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: scouting side, of things I want to jump in tight ends, 528 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, couple of things we're looking for here at 529 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: the workouts I mentioned this. I'll be talking about this 530 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: a bunch um. During the combine coverage. Buck went back 531 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: and uh, through our buddy Jack and research was able 532 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: to pull the top ten players in different categories in 533 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: terms of receiving yards, passing yards, whatever, and then put 534 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: in their combine information just with the top ten, not 535 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: trying to uh. You know a lot of teams will 536 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: do this with the league average starter and make those 537 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: the numbers and the guidelines they're aiming for. I who 538 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: wants to be average. Let's take top ten guys and 539 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: let's aim to find something in that range. So when 540 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you look at the tight end position, and we go 541 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: last year off of receiving yards and just list those 542 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: ten guys down and then we put in their heightweight, 543 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: forty three cone vertical bench. Um, this is what the 544 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: numbers spit out here, Buck, So let's go with the 545 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: average of those top ten guys. What is it? What 546 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: does that top ten tight end look like? Uh? When 547 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: we go to Indianapolis? What what's kind of the numbers 548 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you're looking for here? The average six three and a 549 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: quarter two d forty six pounds um. The the forty 550 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: oh sorry six the average take that back, that was 551 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: the that was the minimum. The average six four and 552 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: seven eights, so almost six ft five six four and 553 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: seven eights two hundred and fifty three pounds, just over 554 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: to fifty with a forty of four six four pretty 555 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: darn good number three cone seven eleven, so just hovering 556 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: right around seven where you want to be. A vertical 557 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: average thirty five, so you see that explosiveness carry over 558 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: into the vertical. The bench is twenty one, which is, 559 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of what you'd expect. You don't need 560 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: hercules out there to be blocking anybody. Um, the the outliers. 561 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: If you want to look for who the high guy, 562 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: who the low guy was in terms of those tight 563 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: ends that were in the top ten and receiving yards, 564 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: the fastest one Jared Cook he ran a four five 565 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: oh coming out so he did last year for the Raiders. 566 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: And the slowest of the bunch in terms of receiving 567 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: yards at the tight end position, Kyle Rudolph, as you'd expect, 568 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: six six and eight. He's the tallest guy, two hundred 569 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: fifty nine pounds. He ran four eight three and his 570 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: three cone was the wash second to worst as well. 571 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: He ran a seven to four on the three cone. 572 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the range of what we're looking 573 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: for at the tight end position. Man, I think of 574 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: all the ones that you pull out, I think you 575 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: hit the right position because this year the tight end 576 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: class is absolutely loaded. I think UM, I think there 577 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: are a ton of guys that can come and make 578 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: immediate contributions. I think the league is trending where multiple 579 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: tight end sets are becoming increasingly more popular. UM. And 580 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: if you can have a guy that is a difference 581 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: maker at the tight end one or tight end two spot, 582 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: it really enhances UM your quarterbacks his ability to really 583 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: play and control the middle of the field. When you 584 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: spit out those average numbers, almost six five three pounds 585 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: four six four is kind of moved for a big guy. Uh. 586 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: The seven eleven three cone to me, that is all 587 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: about the change of direction and being able to create separation, 588 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: getting in and out the break thirty five in vertical. 589 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: That leads me to think about the red zone and 590 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: being able to win those balls on fades when you're 591 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: having displaced against a smaller defensive back and then twenty 592 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: one reps on the bench. Even though it's not necessarily 593 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: functional strength, you do have to have the ability to 594 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of control the line of scrimmage on the edges 595 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: when you are involved in the blocking game. And so 596 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: what we're looking for at tight end, we're looking for 597 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: basically jumble wide receivers who can block like offensive linemen, 598 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: and so those numbers kind of bear that out. The 599 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: one interesting one to me is, um, you're trying to 600 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: look for where they've close aligned. The three cone is good, 601 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: I prefer for those who don't know. It's kind of 602 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: the L. It's L shaped drill. It's a change of 603 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: direction drill. Um. The short shuttle is is just you're 604 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: working on one plane. The three cone is a little trickier. Um. 605 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: You can really see if you're looser you're tight, that'll 606 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: that'll that'll show itself in the three cone. It's great 607 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: for pass rushers. Uh, also tight ends these guys. I mean, 608 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: let me just roll through the numbers here. Kittle seven flat, 609 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: Kelsey seven oh nine or seven oh eight, Ibron seven nine. 610 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: That was the worst one, uh Gronk seven eight. Think 611 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: about that six six and a quarter at two hundred 612 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: and sixty four pounds and he ran a seven one 613 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: eight on the three cone, which is Stilly Hooper seven 614 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: flat in Joko with six nine seven, Jimmy Graham six nine, 615 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: o'Kyle Rudolph was seven to four. So the majority of 616 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: those guys right at seven. That's kind of the target 617 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: you're looking for. Yeah, it is a target you look for. 618 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: You remember, we used to get all of these numbers. 619 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Now it's been jacked up a little bit because now 620 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: that guys are really training for these events and they 621 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: kind of become Olympic medalists by the time they get 622 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: to Indie. But um, there is something to the ability 623 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: to be able to change direction. And when you take 624 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: the three cone and combine it with the five five shuttle, 625 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: it does speak to the balance to buy the control 626 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: and short area explosiveness. When it comes to evaluating the athlete. UM, 627 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: I am always curious when you see those big guys, 628 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I want to see them run those drills because you 629 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: want to see the bin. Are they flexible enough to 630 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: get out? Are they big lumbering, stiff guys that don't 631 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: have the ability to kind of create that separation that 632 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: we all know that you need to get open in 633 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: this passing league. Um, this is a fascinating discussion, and 634 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the fact that you brought it two tight ends is 635 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: something that is right in my wheelhouse because when I'm 636 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stuff, UM, this year's class with 637 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the tight ends, I do believe their guys that we're 638 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: gonna talk about. And I think we'll see a change 639 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: in the the guard at the tight end position because 640 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Rob Wronkowski obviously is fading now. Travis Kelsey is a 641 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: guy that is and then makes you have zach Ertz. 642 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: But then we saw the likes of Dallas Goddard, Um, 643 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: we saw David and Joeku show up. We saw some 644 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: of these other tight ends kind of make appearances in 645 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: starring roles. It is a great time to change the 646 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: guard because we're getting these big time athletes that are 647 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: playing the position that are these hybrids that you know 648 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: we talked about being able to block like offensive linement 649 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: but run like whiteouts. If you have a couple of 650 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: those guys on your squad is a huge advantage when 651 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: it comes to creating mismatches. All right, and then we 652 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: get to offensive lineman here, I'll break it up between 653 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: tackles and interior offensive lineman. And again I have this 654 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: broken down by the All O team, but just to 655 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: get more numbers in the mix, and for a way 656 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: to do it, um, if you just grab and look. 657 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm not always in alignment with with a pro football 658 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: focus on offensive line grades, but for the purpose of 659 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: this exercise, I thought, okay, let's grab their ten highest 660 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: graded offensive tackles, ten highest graded interior offensive lineman. We 661 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: might disagree on a name here there, but these are 662 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: good players. So when you look at those averages buck 663 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: at the tackle position six five and a half three 664 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: twelve um, the arm length which is big, thirty four 665 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: and a quarter is the average forty is a five 666 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: oh nine UM. And then we get to the three 667 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: cones seven six nine bench. And the interesting thing, I 668 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: was talking to a general manager the other day and 669 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: uh said, you know, everybody always kind of laughs at 670 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: the forty for offensive lineman. When are you gonna rund 671 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: a forty? Everybody makes their jokes. It's stupid, It's doesn't 672 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: correlate to football, he said. He said, this was a 673 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: while ago, it's been a couple of years. We did 674 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: a study on it. He said, absolutely, the forty ended 675 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: up being one of the highest indicators for success when 676 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: they were looking at offensive lineman. So they their teams 677 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: really really believe in the forty. Now, well, you guys 678 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna run forty yards in a play or not. I 679 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Not gonna happen very often, but it does 680 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: show you a little bit of stamina, shows you some 681 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: of that initial burst and can they carry that. Um, 682 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: there's it's not a throwaway number, is what I'm getting 683 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: at there. That was for the tackles. When you go 684 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: to the inside guys. Interior players a little bit shorter 685 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: as you'd expect, average six three and a half the 686 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: weight three oh four, which I thought was interesting, and 687 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: we think of interior alignement and and try okay, big, 688 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, big hefty guard. Last year we saw Quenton Nelson, 689 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: obviously three five pounds quickly emerges one of the best, 690 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: if not the best, in the NFL. UM but the 691 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: average there three oh four thirty three inch arms so 692 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: considerably shorter. That's the Jonah Williams debate. Um, we're gonna 693 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: be easier for somebody with the short arms to kick 694 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: inside the number, though I want to focus on five 695 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: on for forty uh the three cone, and then talking 696 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: to some offensive line coaches around the league, this one 697 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: is a number that they are very very interested in. 698 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: Seven five six was the average, and I talked to 699 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: a different coach who said seven five five was what 700 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: they targeted. UM, the three cone for the interior offensive 701 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: lineman much more important than for tackles because if you 702 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: think about it, there's a quick read and react and 703 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: and and quick change of direction, so you know you tackle, 704 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you could even have a tackle that doesn't that doesn't 705 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: quite change direction, is quickly or is explosively because it's 706 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: the same predominantly in a past set. They're taking the 707 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: same exact set, they're meeting the same launch points, and 708 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: they know where the engagement point is. Whether off with 709 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: interior guys, you don't know where that's coming from. You 710 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: don't know what stunts coming, where they're moving, how you're 711 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: working together with your guys inside. That being able to read, 712 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: react and quickly change direction was much more important for 713 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: those interior players, and that was a number they've come 714 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: to over the years. UM was you you want those 715 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: guys to be at seven five five or below? That 716 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: was their target. I can I think it makes sense, um, 717 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to evaluating interior blockers guards and using 718 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: the three cone as a barometer, because remember, depending on 719 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: the scheme, whether his zone or a gap scheme where 720 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of pulling and asking your guards 721 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: to uh come around the edge and do some lead 722 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: blocking around the corner. That requires the ability to be 723 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: able to get out of this dance, turn and run, 724 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: be fast, and change direction. The three cone kind of 725 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: reveals all of that. So I would like a lighter guard, 726 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: a guard that could move so we can't execute some 727 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: of the things that are very very trendy in the 728 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: league today. I want to go back to the offensive tackle. 729 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: What what were the height and the dimensions that you 730 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: mentioned again for offence, like you say six five six 731 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: five and a half three hundred and twelve pounds, So 732 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: that was the average six five and a half three 733 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: twelve with thirty four and a quarter inch arms, thirty 734 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: four and a quarter um. That does make sense because 735 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: so often in this process we'll we'll talk about, hey man, 736 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: this guy needs to kick inside or um, he needs 737 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: to play guard. He's not long enough to play outside 738 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: the tackle, and people kind of give us a hard time, 739 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: like why are you measuring arm length and hand size 740 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: and those things. But if you're doing the numbers and 741 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: you're really studying the science of the draft, to no 742 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: one says that, uh, we are scouts, get it perfectly, 743 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: They're dead on. But what you want to try and 744 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: do is you want to try and eliminate the outlies. 745 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: You want to try and kind of create a standard 746 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: where you like, look, the majority of the league or 747 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: the top guys in the league hit these numbers, and 748 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: those numbers mean something. So when we talk about Jonah Williams, 749 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: and this is going to be the debate for him, 750 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: is he good enough to play outside? Maybe? But would 751 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: he be better inside? Possibly? So when he measures out 752 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: and if his arms come in at around that thirty 753 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: three inch range as opposed to thirty four thirty five, 754 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: it could be problematic for him being on the outside 755 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: because the guys that he's facing, potentially like a Montes 756 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: sweat or if we use the current pro um, like 757 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: a von Miller, they have the length to do some 758 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: of those maneuvers that will prevent him from getting his 759 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: hands on them and he will be at a significant disadvantage. 760 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: That is why these numbers matter and I think people 761 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: need to keep that in perspective when we kind of 762 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: cracked jokes about the into where limits and how it 763 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily play a role in the evacuation. It does, 764 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't uh be considered more valuable than what 765 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: we're doing when we look at the tape. Yeah, we 766 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: want to take it again. We use the phrase you 767 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: want to take the guesswork out of it, So we 768 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: use the phrase and scouting, he's a clean player. What 769 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: does that mean? A clean player means he's hitting all 770 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: of these standards. So these are kind of the industry 771 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: standards you're looking for, and he comes in and checks 772 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: every single box there. Then if you get somebody traditionally 773 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: my experience buck, you get somebody that's a clean player 774 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: in terms of all these numbers, who's productive and and 775 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and excellent on tape, so you like what you see 776 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: on the football field. He aces the interview test, he 777 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: aces the background when you roll through it. Now you've 778 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: got some way to say, Okay, our chances are pretty 779 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: darn good. I mean, the fail rate here is extremely low. 780 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: When we have a clean player number wise on the 781 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: field wise and and personality football character wise. Yeah, I 782 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: mean like, they're a bucket of things that you want 783 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: your top prospects to be able to admit to meet, 784 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: and when those guys meet those things, you feel better 785 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: about them, especially taking him at the top of the draft. 786 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: When you get lower in the third, fourth, fifth, six, 787 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: and seventh rounds, you know that they won't hit all 788 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: of those box and you understand that. But for the 789 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: top guys, you absolutely want them to kind of check 790 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: off all the boxes. Which is why the debate at 791 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: quarterback with Kyler Murray is going to be fascinating because 792 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: there's some there are some people that are going to 793 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: have a tough time getting past the measurables part and 794 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: to focus solely on his game. It is also why, 795 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: to the surprise of many of us in the community, 796 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was not a unanimous number one selection on 797 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: the outside because we couldn't see that. Look he doesn't 798 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: check off certain boxes when it comes to the measurements, 799 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: he can't be the number one. But we're seeing the 800 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: league is changing, but how much of the league is 801 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: changing to kind of allow themselves to kind of make 802 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: exceptions to some of these things that have been traditional 803 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: staples when it comes to the measurements. It is very 804 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: interesting when you look at it. Um, just looking at 805 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: those numbers, you can go through all these different positions 806 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: and you can kind of find who the standard guys 807 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: are who you're looking for. So look, that's part of 808 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: the process. I think that's a fun part about scouting. 809 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: You've got what you see on the tape. The most 810 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: important aspect we've talked today about where the future of 811 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: scouting could be headed with some of the technology involved, 812 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: and then also the combine being able to find the 813 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: numbers and and kind of those standards that you're looking 814 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: to hit. It's all kind of it's it's like jumbalaya, man, 815 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: it all kind of comes together in the evaluation process. Yeah, 816 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: it does kind of come together. But um, I think 817 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: it's important that in spite of all the numbers, and 818 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: in spite of all the excitement that we shared and 819 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: the the technology and being able to look at these 820 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: things and buckets, it still comes down to can they play? 821 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: Don't manufacture a player based on checking off the measurements. 822 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Make sure that he is able to play on tape, 823 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: and you feel good about what he's able to do 824 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: on tape. Before you fall in love with his measurements 825 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: and the dimensions that you've revealed that are revealed at 826 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: the buy no doubt last thing. And this is on 827 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: a different position, but just I'm thinking of this going 828 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: through these dB s, Buck, I don't know where it's 829 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: ever been harder to evaluate corners than it is right 830 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: now based on the way the college game is playing. 831 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I see, I'm just watching all these guys. I see 832 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of quarter coverage. I see butts to the sideline, shuffle, shuffle, 833 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: bail um. Even when they get up and press, they're 834 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: bailing ninety of the time. So in terms of being 835 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: able to see these guys flip their hips, being able 836 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: to see them pedal, which some teams aren't gonna use 837 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: that as much anymore anyways, but just being able to 838 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: see the change of direction, uh and see them be 839 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: able to plant and drive. You just don't get as 840 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: much um exposure to that in the college game as 841 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: you used to, so it's made that evaluation harder. I 842 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: think the workout, the combined workout for corners has never 843 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: been more important uh than it is right now because 844 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: of the way the games being played. It is very tough. 845 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: I was looking at corners this morning before coming in 846 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: um doing some stuff for paths to the draft that 847 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna do next week, and I was looking at 848 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: the top guys and trying to put them in buckets 849 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: in terms of where they fit. Are the outside players 850 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: are the nickel players And looking at the guy like 851 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: Travon Mullen from Clemson, Uh, he's one of the toughest 852 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: guys to do from He's one of the toughest ones 853 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: because he knows the knows a lot, but a lot 854 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: of times he's not pressing, he's bailing out. And what 855 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to do, Like teams will will tell you this, 856 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: and you talk to enough directors and general managers, they'll 857 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: tell you, Uh, fit in scheme is more important than 858 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: anything like how does this guy fit into the scheme 859 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: that we want to run? And for defensive backs it 860 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: is critical, maybe more than any other position. You need 861 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: to know. Is he a guy that is a man corner? 862 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: Is he a press corner? Is he his own corner? 863 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: Can he slip slip inside and play nickel? Does he 864 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: have the foot quickness and the what I call the 865 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: technique versatility to play in a scheme that is more 866 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: than just a weird nose, the nose press team, or 867 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: oh we just always sit off. You have to examine 868 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and sometimes the tape doesn't give 869 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: you enough where you can get those answers, and so 870 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: you do have to go on the road and work 871 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: him out. You do have to look at the combine 872 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: tape and see how they TRANSI and how they flip 873 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: the hips, and how they speed turn, or how they 874 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: are able to execute the w drill and even beyond 875 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: the combine. You then have to work him out on 876 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: their pro day to see if they can do some 877 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: things that are very specific to the way that you 878 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: want your corners to play. It's tough. It is tougher 879 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: now than ever when it comes to evaluating because of 880 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: the way the game is being played at the collegiate level. Yeah, 881 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: I see a lot of wheel turn, man, when I'm watching. 882 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: When I'm watching these dudes, where it used to be able, 883 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: they just always would flip and open up. Now they'll 884 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: swing all the way around, and it's just I'm just 885 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: like this guy, fluid, Can this guy open his hips? 886 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. They don't do it now, theyn't they don't. 887 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: You don't get a chance to see him play off. 888 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: I think for me, I have a greater appreciation for 889 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: guys that can sit off at eight or nine yards UH, 890 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: can key to three step, can backpedal, can transition, break 891 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: and driving on things in front of them, while also 892 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: being able to handle stuff that goes behind them, while 893 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: also being able to make multiple moves if they have 894 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: to cover a post corner. All of those things. UM 895 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: defensive backs will tell you they're the best athletes on 896 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: the field, and in essence, you really need to be 897 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: a decathlete to play on the perimeter. You're trying to 898 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: see that, but sometimes the film doesn't give you enough 899 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: information to really make these solid evaluations on what a 900 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: player is and what he could be at the next level. Yeah, well, 901 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: it's a challenge we all got here in UH in 902 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: the scouting community, it's a big challenge for teams. But again, 903 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: if you know what you do and you know what 904 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: you're looking for, it makes it a whole lot easier 905 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: to go find it. So that's the challenge for those 906 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: teams they've got there at the combine next week in Indianapolis. 907 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: Anything else you're you're working on, Buck, what can we 908 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: promote here? Man? Just trying to put together this notebook, 909 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: a little mix of college and pro. But I gotta 910 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of start turning all my efforts to the college 911 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: in the draft, because no matter how much stuff and 912 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: buzz we're hitting about free agency, the combines coming and 913 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: it is a bear to tackle. I was hoping during 914 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: today's show the Potters would signed Bryce Harper, but has 915 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: not happened. I guess we have to just stick with 916 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: our one million dollar player. I mean, I can't wait 917 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: to see how many wins it leads to. Fully y'all 918 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: be relevant beyond May. That's all happen, all right, Hey, 919 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. Thank you guys 920 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: for listening to Movie Sticks podcast. We're gonna have you 921 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: covered really wired to wire there at the combine. We 922 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: will have a preview offense and defense. Uh, you're gonna 923 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: look forward to that. I promise you. We'll have you 924 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: set up no h know what to be looking for 925 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: their in Indie as we continue on the Sticks. Appreciate 926 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: you listening. We'll catch you next time. Thanks for downloading 927 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, 928 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com Slash podcasts,