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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John, the og Storytime

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Speaker 1: podcast host. Oh yeah, we got some great stories coming up.

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Speaker 1: a little house. Oh yeah, my father tried to ruin

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Speaker 1: my engagement. Too bad. He failed.

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Speaker 2: He's just really jealous and he wants to marry your fiance.

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Speaker 1: My relationship with my parents has never been great. They're

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Speaker 1: extremely self absorbed in controlling, but thanks to my therapist

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Speaker 1: and my partner, I've grown a lot. I've reached a

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Speaker 1: place where our relationship is manageable, mainly because I refuse

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Speaker 1: to let them disrupt my peace, especially not tomorrow. By

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Speaker 1: I'm Carly, and we are here to give you good advice. Goofly,

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Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We just know

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Speaker 1: what we'd do, so if you would do something different,

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Speaker 1: let us know in the comments. Tomorrow is a big day.

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Speaker 1: My partner and I are meeting with a jeweler who's

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Speaker 1: going to design my engagement ring from scratch? I'm over

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Speaker 1: the moon. This is such a happy, once in a

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Speaker 1: lifetime moment for me, and I've shared it with my mom, my, siblings,

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Speaker 1: and a few close friends. Everyone seemed excited except my dad.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he's upset that my partner hasn't asked for my

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Speaker 1: want my partner to ask. My family has always made

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Speaker 1: weight for me. But my partner believes it's the right

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Speaker 1: thing to do as a man, and he's been planning

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Speaker 1: to ask. So why hasn't it happened yet? Simple money.

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Speaker 1: This summer has hit us hard. Unexpected cuts in work hours,

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Speaker 1: financial aid delays, housing stress. It's been overwhelming. We live

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Speaker 1: eight hours away and my dad is constantly on his boat,

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Speaker 1: so planning a trip has not been easy. His stress

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Speaker 1: has taken a toll, especially on my partners. So I

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Speaker 1: told him, before we start impending doom, let's find out

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Speaker 1: how much the ring will cost. Knowing the number would

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Speaker 1: help us plan, relieves some of the financial pressure and

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Speaker 1: for the ring and the proposal and the trip to

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Speaker 1: my family. We agreed whatever is left over, we'll go

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Speaker 1: the proposal. After asking for my hand, the jeweler was

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Speaker 1: super kind and said he could work with my partner's budget,

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Speaker 1: but he also said that to give an exact price,

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Speaker 1: reactions to styles, understand what makes me feel special, and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to my parents about what outfit to

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been asked for your hand, and I got pissed.

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Speaker 1: I said, how the heck is he supposed to afford

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Speaker 1: coming down there when he doesn't even know how much

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Speaker 1: Your father just feels disrespected, and I said, clearly, if

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Speaker 1: But I will not sit here and let anyone paint

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Speaker 1: My partner is disrespectful when he's doing everything in his

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Speaker 1: power to honor me in our future. He's working, saving

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Speaker 1: and doing his best and considering I'm your oldest daughter

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing tick for tat for childish games again,

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Speaker 1: not the freakin' saying it's tit for tat.

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Speaker 1: I think my mom quickly changed the subject because she

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Speaker 1: knew the road I was heading on and definitely didn't

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Speaker 1: because I figured if I explained the story, he might understand. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. I apologized and told him I was

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Speaker 1: sorry if things didn't feel traditional. I explained everything, our finances,

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Speaker 1: asking jest not yet. That's when my dad launched into

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Speaker 1: I don't play about my child. He said it like

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Speaker 1: Where was that energy when I needed support growing up,

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Speaker 1: He just wants to make sure we can afford everything.

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Speaker 1: He's doing his best. Then I asked, do you honestly

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Speaker 1: I should be surprised, he should be surprised. He should

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Speaker 1: He's not mad because my partner did anything wrong. He's

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Speaker 1: mad because he didn't get his moment. He didn't get

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Speaker 1: to play the role he imagined. He didn't get control.

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Speaker 1: But my partner is working hard every single day to

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Speaker 1: build our future, and that's what actually matters. So no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not letting my father dim this moment, not this time.

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Speaker 1: This engagement is about me and my partner, not anyone else.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm still going to my appointment. Whether my

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Speaker 1: I was referring to how I felt in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want my life or wedding delayed if my

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Speaker 1: My partner is marrying me, not my father. He made

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Speaker 1: I didn't apologize to do what daddy says or play

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Speaker 1: ended the call. Please stop making assumptions about me or

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Speaker 1: anyone tearing down my future. Fiance, my partner, and my

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Speaker 1: that through this post, too bad. Any advice. I'm just

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Speaker 1: This process definitely didn't go how either of us thought

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Speaker 1: just been so awful from start to finish, and we're

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Speaker 1: tainted because my future fiance had a conversation with me

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Speaker 1: about being ready for marriage before asking for his blessing,

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Speaker 1: as if this person is the one getting married, not me.

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Speaker 1: Then of course there was the engagement dinner. My God,

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Speaker 1: don't get me started on the engagement dinner. I completely

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Speaker 1: understand it's weird to plan it before being engaged, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: That's why my only thing was like, sure, maybe you

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Speaker 2: could have given him my heads up and been like, hey,

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Speaker 2: can't make it out to see you. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: My father asked completely stupid and irrelevant questions that had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with our relationship. I won't go into

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Speaker 1: and my father called him deceitful. I was appalled. My

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Speaker 1: He wasted our time and money over a blessing he

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Speaker 1: You had that man go all the way down there

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Speaker 1: where is your husband? I want to speak to your husband, boz.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know, If an elder asks to speak

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Speaker 1: putting you in a child's place. My mom was so

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Speaker 1: It got even better because since things went so terribly

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Speaker 1: saying how much they love both of us and how

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Speaker 1: just couldn't be happier with my future and my new family.

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Speaker 1: So while I'm sad about some parts and it's been tough,

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Speaker 1: I know our future is bright. And that is the

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Speaker 2: leave me, but it's sad that her family hasn't changed dance.

432
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: For a few months, my wife stopped talking to them

433
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: because they required her to talk for hours each week

434
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: and it became too much. Now her mom let that

435
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: comment slip, and it feels super frustrating and saddens me

436
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: that they feel that way. My parents worked so hard

437
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: to save money for me to go to college, have

438
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: an apartment with my wife, et cetera. Now that I've

439
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: finally had a career for almost two years, I felt

440
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: my hard work paid off. I can afford a pretty

441
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 2: nice apartment in a safe area, and I've been supporting

442
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: her since I finished college. Thank you for the comment,

443
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: and that is the end of that story. Yeah, I

444
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: feel like Eve and your wife can just like I

445
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: don't know, you do your own thing and stop stop

446
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: worrying about what they think. I agree, And that's the

447
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: end of this story. We're gonna go to the next one.

448
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Speaker 1: My brother refused to pick up his son after getting back.

449
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: From vacation pick them up from where.

450
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: So my twin brother and his wife, who I have

451
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: bad blood with, went to New York City on a

452
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: trip a week ago. They have a son who turned

453
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: to today. Before leaving, my brother asked if I could

454
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: watch their son, and I agreed to it. I just

455
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: reminded my brother to be back by his birthday because

456
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want them to miss their only child's birthday.

457
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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user vegetable Bill twenty

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Speaker 1: one sixty seven. If you want to submit your own stories,

459
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Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay storytime suburd it. I'm Dakota,

460
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm Carly. We're here to give you a little good

461
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: advatge goofully, you know, but we don't have all the answers.

462
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Speaker 1: We really know what we would do, so if you

463
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: do something else, let us know in the comments. My

464
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: husband and I also have a family trip planned to GwL,

465
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: which is Great Wolf Lodge, a huge indoor water park,

466
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: on Halloween, and I voiced to my brother that I

467
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable taking their son to a crowded water

468
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: park without them tagging along. They flew back into Florida,

469
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: where we all live, late last night. I didn't bother

470
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: them this morning about picking up their son due to

471
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: them probably being exhausted. Around eleven AM, my brother texted

472
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to meet up for lunch. I was

473
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: a bit annoyed at the last minute planned because I'm

474
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Speaker 1: a mom of six and I can't just drop things

475
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Speaker 1: to go have lunch with them. They offered to buy it,

476
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: so I went to the restaurant. They ended up flaking,

477
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: so I got food to go and came home. I

478
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: called my brother and went off on him, which caused

479
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: him to block my number. He took offence that I

480
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Speaker 1: didn't want their son tagging along on our trip. During

481
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: our phone argument, It's five pm and they have yet

482
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: to get their son. I'm stressed, overwhelmed, and don't know

483
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: what to do. I don't have his wife's number, and

484
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: honestly she won't be of any help. I know the

485
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: internet is limited when it comes to helping, but what

486
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: what would you all do? Hoping for advice? Because I'm

487
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and I honestly feel like getting the state involved.

488
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: There are some comments here go I would show up

489
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: to his house and I'd say, knock, knock, knock, here's

490
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: your child.

491
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: Forget you had a two year old.

492
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Knock, knock, knock, your baby is here. It's your baby's birthday.

493
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Relevant comments OPI on her brother's marriage and the reason

494
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: behind the trip. Opie says, I didn't really want to

495
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: go too much into the trip due to wanting to

496
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: protect my brother's dignity. I really don't care anymore though

497
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: about protecting him. Around a month ago, he and his

498
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: wife got into a heated argument. She left him to

499
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: fly to the UK to meet some man. Things didn't

500
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: work out with that relationship, so she flew to New

501
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: York City and convinced my husband to fly there so

502
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: they could work on their relationship with a small getaway.

503
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Speaker 1: This is the fourth or fifth time they've separated.

504
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: God, why did they have a kid?

505
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: OPI on her and her husband's jobs. My husband is

506
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: a pediatric craniofacial maxillofacial surgeon. I make money from the TikTok.

507
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: We moved to Florida in June of this year from

508
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: Arizona and use our Arizona house as an airbnb. Our

509
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: children are well kept and have a far better childhood

510
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: than my husband and I had. I think it's very

511
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: trashy to hate on large families and assume that we

512
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: can't afford our children. A commenter says, Okay, so the

513
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: brother is a butt, but what about the sister in

514
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: law and mother of the child. She isn't missing the baby.

515
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Many moms can't even make it through a date night

516
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: dinner because they don't want to leave their baby. How

517
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: is she not wanting to see her baby regardless of

518
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: the dad. I think it is derope. If it was postpartum,

519
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: the dad would still want to have the child, even

520
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: if the mom is freaked out. This couple shouldn't have

521
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: had kids and did. Opie says, the reason why my

522
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: sister in law and I didn't get along is because

523
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: she lies a lot and is a horrible person. We

524
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: actually did get along until her mask fell off. I'll

525
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: tell you all the drama. They've been married since August

526
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. They had their wedding in our grandma's huge backyard.

527
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: My grandma asked if their reception about kids in the future,

528
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: because she favored my brother and was happy he found someone.

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: After years of legal trouble, my sister in law claimed

530
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: that she had cancer and they had to remove her

531
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: uterus a few years ago. Literally, lying about having caer

532
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: has gotta be one of the scumbaggiest things you could

533
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: ever do. Not only that, but you're lying to your

534
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: grandmother in law about your ability to have children because

535
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: of you are scum. Scum just say now, I don't know,

536
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: we're still thinking about it. Seven months into their marriage,

537
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: they got into a huge argument. She told him she

538
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: lied about the caacer and that she just doesn't want

539
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: to have children. They had a pending divorce, but I

540
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: conciled in February twenty twenty three. She ended up getting pregnant.

541
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: Opi on her family's background when she was growing up.

542
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: Opie says, it's most definitely real. Feel free to come

543
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: over and help if you're just gonna run your mouth. Oh,

544
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: get them, get them, opie. I never said I didn't

545
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: know what CPS is. Of course I know what it is.

546
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: I experienced not being wanted, and the same thing happened

547
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: to my brother and me at a young age. Our

548
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: parents lost parental rights and our grandparents raised us. Maybe

549
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't want the same thing for my nephew. Tell

550
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: me you haven't grown up in a broken family without

551
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: telling me the type of comment. Update eight days later,

552
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: I apologize to the people who were waiting for an

553
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: update from my last post. My husband, our kids, and

554
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: I just got back from our staycation today at Great

555
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: Wolf Lodge. I had a very toxic childhood. I wasn't

556
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: loved and grew up in a broken family. I certainly

557
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't use my nephew for attention. I made the post

558
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: when I was infuriated at my brother. It was vulnerable,

559
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: it was raw. I have ADHD and I don't always

560
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: think before I say things in post things. It's a

561
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: personality trait I wish I could change. With that said

562
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: now going into the update, my brother did unblock my

563
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: number later in the evening, on the same day that

564
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: he refused to pick up his son, which was October

565
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. He said that they've been given an eviction notice.

566
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I am the co signer for him. I helped him

567
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: find an apartment after their last eviction. He asked me

568
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: if I could be his co signer again. Of course,

569
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: this started another phone escalation because he assumed that their

570
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: eviction had something to do with me. The absolute gall

571
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: to get evicted and then be like, yeah, can you

572
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: co sign again for me?

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: Because this would be a third time too. And also,

574
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: are do you have your son yet?

575
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: Yes? Have you taken back your son? Also, why do

576
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: you think that it's O Pie's fault you're getting evicted.

577
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: She's a co signer. She exists on the lease for

578
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: this exact situation. When you fail to pay, there's a

579
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: backup plan there. They do sound.

580
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: Terrible, pe you just the other people.

581
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Your brother and his wife sound awful. Yeah, like awful people.

582
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Why is she flying to the UK when they can't

583
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: afford to pay rent? Why are they going on a

584
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: trip to New York City when they can't pay rent

585
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: and they're getting evicted from their apartment to save their

586
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: fake marriage that shouldn't exist. That's crazy. I honestly do think, yeah,

587
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: maybe you should be thinking about having a seventh child

588
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: to raise.

589
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: I would be terrified for this kid to go back

590
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: is biological parents.

591
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible, terrible. After thinking deeply and chatting with my husband,

592
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: we decided to take custody of our nephew. Yes, we

593
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: have plans to work with CPS to get some funding

594
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: for his care. He went on our trip and he's

595
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: such a sweet, energetic little boy who doesn't deserve to

596
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: be crapped on. We have five daughters and only one son.

597
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: Now our son will have a little buddy. My parents

598
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: lost parental rights over my brother and I when we

599
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: were twelve. For the people worrying that our nephew is

600
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: going to be placed in a foster home. It's something

601
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I just don't have the heart to do. I don't

602
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: want to continue that cycle. There are some more relevant

603
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: comments here op on wy her brother and his wife

604
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: were going on vacations avoiding parenting responsibilities and his thought process.

605
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Not trying to defend him, but it has more to

606
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: do with his IQ than his priorities. We were both

607
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: substance exposed in the womb and it affected him way

608
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: more than me. I feel more like a parent to

609
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: him than his twin sister at times, because he's clueless

610
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: in his IQ is very low and twins and now

611
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I feel a little worse. Now, I feel a little bit.

612
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's just a guy who didn't get a

613
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: fair shake it life for him.

614
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Sure, for a sister in law, No, I don't feel

615
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: no, no the earth.

616
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Don't feel bad for her.

617
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: Scum of the earth.

618
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: She's the scum of the earth.

619
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm still not loving brother, but I do feel for him.

620
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Given that information, though, it makes a little more sense.

621
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: That's why I had it in my original post that

622
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: I had to remind him to be back before the

623
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight, otherwise he would have still been on vacation

624
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: with his child's birthday come at one. I'm honestly wondering

625
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: why the landlord didn't contact you before evicting your brother.

626
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: If you were a co signer on the lease, that

627
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: would make you equally responsible for the rent getting paid.

628
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: Either your brother put a fake phone number down for you,

629
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: or the landlord didn't fully do their job. You should

630
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: have had some heads up that this was happening, and

631
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad you took your nephew, and I hope he

632
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: has a good life with you, your husband and your kids.

633
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: Hope.

634
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: He says. It wasn't a rent issue. My brother is

635
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: unemployed by choice and his wife is also. I was

636
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: covering most of their rent. It was a filth issue.

637
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: They ignored the landlord warnings. Roaches and mice were living

638
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: rent free in their place. They were also sneaking in

639
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: pets without approval from the landlord. Thanks, by the way,

640
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. I want

641
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: to try a little outdoor living. If you're gonna invite

642
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: the roaches and the rats into your place of abode,

643
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: into your humble abode, they just go ahead and go

644
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: out's side. That's where they are. Yeah, you can't have

645
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: a kid in there either. Ugh, key thing to realize

646
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: nephew's out of there. Hey, op got a seventh little

647
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: seventh child.

648
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: They yeah, Like, honestly, I'm sure.

649
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Opie didn't know that there was a film.

650
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: No, no, I know that he didn't know. Yeah, it's

651
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: just like the hindsight of thinking back and being like that,

652
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: that poor little point. I would play with the mice

653
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: and the bugs. I gave them on names.

654
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: It's pretty nice. Two year old spirit can make anything

655
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: a decent situation.

656
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he got his little water park day

657
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: with y'all. Yeah, I'm sure he probably felt a little

658
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: like it was a little birthday things.

659
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he felt like this was the best

660
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: thing ever. And that's the end of this story. Let's

661
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: head to the next one. Hey, it's Sam, your og host.

662
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: I planned a Halloween costume with my stepdaughters and their

666
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Speaker 2: mother lost it. Well, it's just so fun Halloween. I

667
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: thirty five female, am the stepmother to two lovely ten

668
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: year old twin girls who I adore. I have been

669
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Speaker 2: married to their father, thirty eight male, for five years,

670
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: and we dated for two years before that. I consider

671
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: myself very close to them and we always have fun

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: whenever they stay with me and their father. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Okay storytime subrend it. I'm Carly, I'm Angie, and we're

676
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: here to give good advice. Goofully, But we don't have

677
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: all the answers. We only know what we would do,

678
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: so let us know what you would do in the comments.

679
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: As Opie says, they recently asked what kinds of movies

680
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: I watched when I was their age, so it led

681
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: me to digging out some old classics, most notably The

682
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Parent Trap. Of all the older movies I showed them,

683
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: this one was their favorite. I think they loved seeing

684
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 2: a movie about twins. They even delighted in the fact that,

685
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: in their opinion, I look like Meredith Blake. It's the hair.

686
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I think. No way, am I as gorgeous as Elaine Hendrick.

687
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Oh stop it, I'm sure you are. I'm sure you ah.

688
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: It has become an inside joke for us, with me

689
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: often putting on her voice and acting the part while

690
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: they fall into hysterical giggles. My husband has even gotten

691
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: into it, playing the clueless nick When we get into

692
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: this playful spirit. The girls are staying with us for Halloween.

693
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: They alternate who has them on holidays and whoever has

694
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: them for Halloween is in charge of the costume. The

695
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: girls asked if I would do a group costume with them.

696
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: I was touched and told them, of course, and asked

697
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: them what they wanted to do.

698
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: I should have seen it coming.

699
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: They wanted to do the parent Trap with them as

700
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: the girls and me as Meredith. I found it harmless

701
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: and agreed. My husband found it funny and said he'd

702
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: even dress his nick. Then I got a call from

703
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: their mother today telling me that she'd heard of the

704
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: costume and that she didn't approve. She felt it wasn't appropriate.

705
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: At first, I was touched and assumed she was worried

706
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: about their stepmother being portrayed as a wicked gold digger.

707
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: I told her it was fine, that it was just

708
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 2: an inside joke that had sparked this idea. That wasn't

709
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: the issue. She didn't think it was appropriate for me

710
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: to do a group costume with her daughters at all,

711
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: and that it was clearly lazy. She said I was

712
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: forcing it because why else would her daughters want to

713
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: do a costume from an old movie? Well, I don't know,

714
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: asked them it was their choice. Maybe because they're twins, Yeah,

715
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: a movie about twins. They just happened to put on

716
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: that movie and they liked it. Yeah, that's all. I

717
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: got rather upset, but tried to stay calm on the phone.

718
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: I told her she might not approve, but it was

719
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: harmless and I'd been in the girls' lives for seven years.

720
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: At this point, my husband, who was in the room

721
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: during the call, could see I was getting upset, so

722
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: he took the phone from me and began to get

723
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: into it with his ex wife.

724
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: He told her that she could have all.

725
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: The issues she wanted, but it was an entirely proper

726
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: costume for their age, and that it had been the

727
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: girls who suggested it. He reminded her that it was

728
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: up to him what they dressed as this year, and

729
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: that he'd approved of it. I got him to calm

730
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: down as he was getting upset, and the call ended

731
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: rather tersely. I just feel awful about this whole thing,

732
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: and I wonder if I should just bow out of

733
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: matching the girls in costume, if it will prevent further problems.

734
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: I just know this will be a bigger thing down

735
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: the line. What do you guys think? And we have

736
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: some comments, but what do you think?

737
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: I think?

738
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kinda up to the husband. I feel

739
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: like if he's still with it, I don't think you should.

740
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: I don't think you should bow out at all, Like

741
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: you're really their stepmother, Like, yeah, it's seven years in Yeah,

742
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: girls are really excited. Yeah exactly.

743
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: It's like I feel like she's just jealous that you

744
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: guys have this bond and she does it.

745
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: So it's like ex wife. Do you remember the plot

746
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: of that movie? He doesn't end up with Meredith?

747
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: Why are you so worried about?

748
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: Exactly?

749
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: And even if she was dressing up as a love interest, like,

750
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: it's like it still works like being the villain though,

751
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 5: girl gonna go on. Some of Opie's comments finaled her fifty.

752
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: Not the a hole. The girl's mother isn't upset about

753
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 2: the costume. She's upset that her daughters love you enough

754
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: to want to do a group costume with you. This

755
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent about her own jealousy and insecurity.

756
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: Don't back down.

757
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: The girls asked you, and it would hurt them if

758
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 2: you pulled out now because their mom threw a fit.

759
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Opie responds, I really don't want to back down. It

760
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: means a lot to me that the girls asked me.

761
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: I just worry that this could cause worse tension, which

762
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: could be bad for the girls. I also hate that

763
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: she feels jealous and insecure as I think you're right there.

764
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: I love the girls like they're my own, but I

765
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: will never replace their mother. Designated throwaway says, what do

766
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: you value more making your husband's ex wife happy or

767
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: making the two little girls you helped raise happy and

768
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: creating an awesome memory with them. Opie responds, obviously making

769
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: them happy. It's not about making her happy exactly. It's

770
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: more concern. If I don't concede on this, it'll make

771
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: things harder for the girls in the long term. Jerry

772
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: Collard says, not the ahole. But I'm curious when you

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: say old movie, do you mean the actually old one

774
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: or the one with Lindsay Lohan, Because if we're calling

775
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: the latter movie old, I'm gonna start shriveling up. Oh no,

776
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: Opie responds, the nineteen ninety eight movie with Lindsay Lohan.

777
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm afraid. Trust me. I know how you feel. But

778
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: to them it's old. To another commenter, oh trust me,

779
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: I dislike being called that too, But to ten year

780
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: old girls, it's old. No, and OPI is obviously moded,

781
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: not be able. And we have an update a month later,

782
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: which is after Halloween. Oh boys, we're gonna see what happened.

783
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. How do you think it goes?

784
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 4: I hope that that you know. Here's what I really

785
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: think it's gonna happen. Okay, I think mom is gonna

786
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: have a problem. She's gonna be like, actual's gonna buy

787
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: the kids a different costume, make them wear it. But

788
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: then when they go over to the dad's house and be.

789
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Like, we'll be a parent trap like come on obviously, obviously, and.

790
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: Then their para drap and then the dad is like, bio,

791
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: Mom a bad and then she's like, whooker, word for word.

792
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna happen. Yeah, we're gonna quote you

793
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: on that.

794
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Okay.

795
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: Crazy Update over a month later, Well, Halloween is officially over,

796
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: and I thought i'd give an update before I forgot. Firstly,

797
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people wondering if I was

798
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: the reason my husband and his ex split up, and

799
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: I'd like to clear the air right now. No, they

800
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: split up when the girls were two. I came into

801
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: the picture a year later. Things came to a bit

802
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: of a head. On one of the girl's visits before Halloween,

803
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: I pulled their mother aside to talk about Halloween, and

804
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: I told her that I understood she might have mixed

805
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: feelings about this, but the girls wanted it and I

806
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: didn't want to let them down. Besides, it was their

807
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: father's holiday and he was in charge of the costume

808
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: as per their agreement for whoever had them on Halloween.

809
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: I asked her if there was anything I could do

810
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: to make this more tolerable for her, as this wasn't

811
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: doing the girls any favors. She ended up telling me

812
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: that no, there was nothing I could do as she

813
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: didn't approve of it at all, since it wasn't appropriate

814
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: for me to do a group costume with them as

815
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: I'm only their stepmother, even if I've been in their

816
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: life for seven years. At this point, she then continued

817
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: to insult me. I wasn't going to talk about this

818
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: with her anymore. After the girls left, I broke down

819
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: crying a little. When my husband found out out what

820
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: she'd said to me, he ended up calling his acts

821
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: asking her where she got off being so cool. He

822
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: also made it clear that she was not to call

823
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: me anymore and that all contact was to go through him.

824
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: We got the costumes ready and were prepared for Halloween.

825
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: She dropped the girls off and informed us that one

826
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: of them had a cold and she didn't want them

827
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: out in the cold, as it would make it worse.

828
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: She seemed kind of pleased, like this would put an

829
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: end to our plans. When she left, the girls tried

830
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: to insist they weren't okay to go out even though

831
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: they were sick, but we weren't about to risk making

832
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: them more ill, so my husband and I came up

833
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: with another plan. We all dressed in our costumes, ordered pizza,

834
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: and watched movies. All four of us greeted trigger treads

835
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 2: so our costumes could still be seen, and we also

836
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: filled a tub with water and had a bobbing for

837
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: Apple's competition. It wasn't the night we had planned originally,

838
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: but all in all, it was an enjoyable one, despite

839
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: the little hitch that's raising kids though. Thank you everyone

840
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: for all your feedback. I hope you all had a

841
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: wonderful Halloween. All's will and unswill. I guess yeah, I

842
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: mean I wasn't like totally right, right, It didn't really

843
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: end well, but it's like, yeah, you basically told her,

844
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: screw you were getting.

845
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 4: It, Like we got the costume right, that's the most

846
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: important thing.

847
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: It seems as well as it could have been. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

848
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're over it, me too. Editing to add

849
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: additional information, A few people have been worried about the

850
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: fact we bobbed for apples. The girls love bobbing for

851
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: apples on Halloween, and since we couldn't trigger treat, we

852
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: took precautions to ensure they could at least do one

853
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Halloween thing they enjoyed. We made sure the water wasn't cold,

854
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: kept towels on hand to dry off right away, and

855
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: the one who was sick went last. The water was

856
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: poured out after to ensure the chance of the cold

857
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: spreading was limited. That's what the comments were so worried about. Yeah,

858
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: I was not worried about that at all. One of

859
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: Opie's comments okay with Sabbi eighty one oh one says

860
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: it was the kiddo actually sick. Bio mom gives straight

861
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: high school mean girl. I hope she grows up. Opie says, sadly, yes,

862
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: she was sniffily and had a bit of a temperature.

863
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: She tried to insist she was okay to go out

864
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: with her sister chiming encouragement, but we didn't want the

865
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: cold air to make her worse. And that is the

866
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: end of that story. Wow, I mean not bad. Yeah,

867
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: not bad. We've got a husband with the backbone, which

868
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: is always nice. It's great. We don't get that all

869
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: the time. And let the girls love you.

870
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: It's great.

871
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: I know, it's so nice. And then this this mom

872
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: can just she can get over with it. Yeah, fine, yeah,

873
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: and that's the end of this story. We're going to

874
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: go to the next one.

875
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: My stepbrother chose his girlfriend over us. Now he says

876
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: we've ruined his life.

877
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Is she really cool or something?

878
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: Trigger warning for the story, there's mentions of child neglect

879
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: and child endangerment for context. I have been in my

880
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: stepbrother's life since he was five and I was thirteen.

881
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Mark was always the golden child, never getting in any

882
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: trouble or really facing any consequences for his actions. His

883
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: family treated him better than me and my siblings, while

884
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: my family treated him as one of us, thus causing

885
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: him to hack like he was better than me or

886
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: my brother, who is two years older than him. Then,

887
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: as a teenager, he started dating a girl and they

888
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: ended up having two kids. After high school. By the way,

889
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: this comes from user reasonable Honey forty eight forty five,

890
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

891
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: to the r slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Keon,

892
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice goofily,

893
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers, just only know

894
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: what we'd do, So let us know what you'd do

895
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: in the comments. As Op says, So I'll start with

896
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: my brothers. We will call him Mark at the time fiance.

897
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 3: We will call her Sarah. So Mark and Sarah we're pregnant.

898
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: He broke up with her or cheated on her, according

899
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: to her found out later she is a huge pathological liar.

900
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Yay, but so is Mark.

901
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: Tellboy, Yeah, that's a concoction.

902
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Or a lot of lies.

903
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Wow are they even dating?

904
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, And I'm assuming Mark started dating some

905
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: girl from Skippity, Ohio.

906
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

907
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: We lit Upper.

908
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: Michigan and he was working on a freighter at the time.

909
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: The girl broke up with him about a month after,

910
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: and Mark got off the boats to figure his life out.

911
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: During this time, they were also living in a home

912
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: owned by my parents and were supposed to be paying rent,

913
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: but Sarah was not working and so they were not

914
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: paying my parents' rent. Then, right before their second child

915
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: was born, he went back out on the boats and

916
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: was also sent to Seattle for special training paid for

917
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: by his company. During all of this, Mark was telling

918
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: my mother that he was working on his relationship with

919
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: Sarah and that they were going to get married. According

920
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: to Sarah, he was also telling her she needed to

921
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: go to therapy to make things work between them, But

922
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 3: what about him? Just Sarah needed to go to therapy.

923
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of you, you're both pathology.

924
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: Then in January of twenty twenty four, we found out Mark,

925
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: who was almost twenty three at the time, had been

926
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: talking to and seeing an eighteen year old girl from

927
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: Ohio for three months. And we're gonna call skibity Ohio

928
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: girl Darlene. I will admit when I found out, I

929
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: sent him some rather nasty texts and called Darlene some

930
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: rather nasty names that I did not mean. Maybe in

931
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: the moment you meant it, Come on, you send it

932
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: for a reason. It was just a big Mark Matt

933
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: and I regret that now and have since apologized. Mark

934
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: during this time had been living with Sarah Dude to

935
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: being the off season for the Lakes and Freighters, but

936
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: again was not paying rent since he never applied for

937
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: off season unemployment. Mark then left to move to Ohio

938
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: to be with Darlene and live with her and her parents.

939
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: He did go back out on the freighter for about

940
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: two weeks, but then left due to his mental health.

941
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: In May.

942
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: I got fired from my job and moved back to

943
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: the town my parents were living in and moved in

944
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: with Darlene.

945
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: You moved in with Darlene. How do you know? Why

946
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: do you move it?

947
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: Wait?

948
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, he says Darlene. That says dor Lee.

949
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: Why did you move it with it?

950
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: You mean do you mean Sarah or do you mean

951
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: door Lee? Either one is weird, Okay. I lived with

952
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: her for almost two months before moving out due to

953
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: her lying, sturing up drama between me, my mother, and

954
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: her mother, and also being a terrible mother who was

955
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: giving my three year old nephew melatonin each night to

956
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: get him to sleep. That's brutal.

957
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: You can't do that.

958
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: She didn't really bathe the kids and sat on her

959
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: phone all day while I took care of them. My

960
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: nephew even started calling me mama during this time because

961
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: I was taking care of them more than she was,

962
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: which made her upset and caused more drama. She also

963
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: during this time started letting Mormons come into our house

964
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: because she wanted to start dating the cute twenty year

965
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: old Mormon. What the F is going on here? This

966
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: is not This sounds like an NPC lobby, but honestly,

967
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: what guy at that age would want to be with

968
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: a twenty five year old single mother of two. I

969
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: moved out and managed to patch things up with Mark

970
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: due to finding out how crazy Sarah was. But for context,

971
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: Mark never told us any of the stuff that happened

972
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: between him and Sarah. He has always hidden stuff from

973
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: us because he doesn't want to take accountability for his actions. Then,

974
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: for the kid's birthday, he came up with Darlene to

975
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: see them. Why he was late and refused to see

976
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: any of us because of Darlene's anxiety. Okay, I let

977
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: Mark know how I felt he had ruined mine and

978
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: my mother's time with the kids after my falling out

979
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: with Sarah. She kept the kids away from my parents

980
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: and also was accusing me of stealing in front of

981
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: my nephew. I know this because he yelled at me

982
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: to give his mom her stuff back. I never stole

983
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: anything from her. In fact, when she finally moved out

984
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: of my parents' house, owing them thousands back in rent,

985
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: she stole things of theirs, including a microwave that my

986
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 3: grandparents had bought for my parents as a gift. While

987
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 3: Sarah moved out, she also took all of Mark's stuff

988
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: as well, stealing it from us as Mark had told

989
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: us we could keep it, such as a mini fridge

990
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: and a big green TV that his mother had bought

991
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: him for his birthday. But we found out after without

992
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: Mark informing us that he had even told Sarah she

993
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: could take it, as she had been poking and yelling

994
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: at him that she should take it for his kids.

995
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 3: After letting Mark know how I felt hurt by him

996
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: making me leave and wouldn't even get out of the

997
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: car to tell me himself, and made Sarah tell me

998
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: he didn't really communicate.

999
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: Then.

1000
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: Right before Christmas of twenty twenty four, Ian Darlene came

1001
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: to visit again.

1002
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Is it Darlene?

1003
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: I think it is Darling. She lives with Sarah, but

1004
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: he brought Darlene back for the holidays, basically, what are

1005
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: we doing? This is so is so messy.

1006
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: I had just got home from work and walked through

1007
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: the door to see Darlene and Mark sitting at the

1008
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: dining room table, still in their hats and coats. I

1009
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: said I to Mark, and he did not introduce me

1010
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: to Darlene. I went about talking with my family when

1011
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: my brother came home and his uncle had called a

1012
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: video chat with my stepdad. They both made fun of

1013
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: the hat Mark was wearing. Okay, I could tell this

1014
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: upset Darlene as being mute. Darlene had dressed Mark up.

1015
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: Was it a fedora?

1016
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: I hope?

1017
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: Was it a fedora with a feather? Or like when

1018
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: those like newspaper boys hats, Yeah, the newsy scaps, I hope.

1019
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: So Mark was wearing stuff he never were before or

1020
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: would have chosen himself. Darlene then was ready to leave.

1021
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 3: Mark and her were going to leave without even talking

1022
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: to my mother as she was getting ready, because they

1023
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: stopped by way earlier than any of us expected. Mark

1024
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: then told us he was going to come back to

1025
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 3: visit later. This did not happen, as he made Sarah

1026
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: and the kids leave our house to see him and

1027
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: Darlene as he did not want to come over to

1028
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: prevent drama. I don't know what drama he was talking about,

1029
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: as I thought the visit went fine, despite Darlene and

1030
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 3: Mark not leaving the dining room table. After that, Mark

1031
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: did not talk to us. Then, on March seventh, I

1032
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: said Mark a text telling him that he and Darlene

1033
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: need to be careful when on the phone with Sarah

1034
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: because the kids can hear. I was told by my

1035
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: nephew that Darlene was yelling at Sarah. I told him

1036
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: that I understand it's hard with Sarah as she pokes,

1037
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: trying to get a reaction out of people to feed

1038
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: her need for drama, and I was currently not talking

1039
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: to her even when she came to visit. Mark then

1040
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: went off on me, saying we make Darlene out to

1041
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: be the villain when she's not, and basically telling me

1042
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: and our parents we are terrible people as we do

1043
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: not give Darlene a chance and we had talked bad

1044
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: about her. I informed Mark, we do not talk about

1045
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: Darlene as we do not know her, we've only met

1046
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 3: her once, and that I was just trying to help.

1047
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: I had in our long back and forth, apologizing for

1048
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 3: anything I may have done wrong and said I don't

1049
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: know how to fix this situation. He has not called

1050
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: or sent me a text since after that. I did

1051
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: not see Darlene or Mark, but they stopped by my parents'

1052
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: house when my stepdad was working on the other house,

1053
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: and Darlene chose that time to yell at my mother,

1054
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: Oh my God, telling her we have not been there

1055
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 3: for Mark or supported him, that she is the only

1056
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 3: one who's been there for him. I don't understand how

1057
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: we can support Mark when he doesn't talk to us

1058
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: and he lives seven hours away. But okay, pop off

1059
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: sis my mom. That explained to Mark that I didn't

1060
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: need any harm from my text. I was just trying

1061
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: to help, and he told her that it didn't come

1062
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: off that way. Then comes the summer. Sarah had to

1063
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: deal with CPS twice as my nephew had run away

1064
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: and my niece's feet had somehow gotten severely burnt while

1065
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: she was at work and the kids were at the babysitters.

1066
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: What We were non contact with Mark at this point,

1067
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: and my stepdad had been working to keep the kids

1068
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 3: in our lives as we did not want Sarah keeping

1069
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: them from us, as she had done multiple times at

1070
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: this point whenever she was mad at us. About a

1071
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: month later, when Mark was notified by CPS, he called

1072
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: his father and yelled at him, asking why he didn't

1073
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: tell him about CPS. Hey, moron, you don't talk to

1074
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: us first off. Second of off, it's your children. Year

1075
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: should be in contact with your kids more. This is

1076
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: a All I'm getting from this story right now is

1077
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: that Mark will never take accountability and will point the

1078
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: finger at anybody else but himself. So he's a coward.

1079
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: One.

1080
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: Two he's not liable for anything. The guy just sucks.

1081
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: He's a pathological liar, and he ran away to Ohio

1082
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: with his girlfriend that he was cheating on his other

1083
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: girlfriend with.

1084
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: Two kids, your niece and nephew. The guy sucks, But

1085
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: let's continue his father let him know the reasons I

1086
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: gave up above. Mark then cut communication with his father

1087
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: pretty much completely at that point. The most recent incident

1088
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: was at my niece and nephew's birthday party. My mother

1089
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 3: was helping my nephew open gifts, and he didn't seem

1090
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: interested in his gift from his aunt, to which my

1091
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: mother jokingly said, I guess we will have to throw

1092
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: it out. Then this upset his aunt, but everything was

1093
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: talked through and it ended up AOK. After that, something

1094
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: upset Sarah. I'm sure what I feel like anything will

1095
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: upset Sarah at this point, so she told Mark about it.

1096
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: He then called my mother, yelling at her, telling her

1097
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: she is nothing to those kids, and her and his

1098
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: father hid this stuff to him growing up, and she

1099
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: is not to do it to his kids. I the

1100
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: fact that this way of communicating with people is not

1101
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: even communicating. It's just yelling and blaming people and then

1102
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: hanging up the phone.

1103
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's actually talking about what's going on. No.

1104
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: The fact that no one's calling this man out for

1105
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: Maybe you guys are, but that's I don't know, and

1106
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: we ope kind.

1107
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: Of did for a little bit there, but it's like

1108
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: he did.

1109
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: You can't call out somebody who will never take accountability

1110
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: because you're like, no, you're wrong, and now you're attacking

1111
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: me and now you're the Meani Bobanie So true, Carly,

1112
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: what what say you?

1113
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing is crazy.

1114
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: I feel like Mark doesn't really want to talk to

1115
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: you guys. You guys don't really talk to Mark I

1116
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: don't even know what Sarah's doing. I feel like, OPI

1117
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 2: the level of low contact that you can have while

1118
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: still like maintaining the level of contact with the nephews

1119
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: they weren't like I don't even know, Like can you

1120
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: even have both?

1121
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. But also the way he

1122
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 3: the way your parents or step parents or whatever your

1123
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: you know, the the adults in per se. I mean,

1124
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: everyone's an adult here, but you know how he's treating

1125
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: his parents or your parents, what have you. He is

1126
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: just so wrong. He just yells at them and attacks

1127
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: him and calls him out for everything, and I feel

1128
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: like he's just facing zero consequences. And then he doesn't

1129
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: want to hear the noise. You know, at this point,

1130
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: he's the one who always cuts contact with you guys.

1131
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: At this point, what's what's the point of talking to

1132
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: this guy? He just brings drama in stress wherever he goes.

1133
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 3: Sarah stressful, Darlene's stressful. Mark is useless and stressful. So

1134
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: I don't see what what the point is You want

1135
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: to keep in contact with this this person or these people.

1136
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: You can, but I think he.

1137
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: Is more just like I want to see my nephews.

1138
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: I think with the way that CPS goes, see if

1139
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: anyone in your family who's more responsible can can take

1140
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: those kids, because those kids need to get out of

1141
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: that situation one hundred percent. I would even talk to

1142
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: Mark about it, because Mark sat gotta do a dang

1143
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: thing about it for those kids. Those kids deserve a

1144
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: better mother and a better life, because, from what we've heard,

1145
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: not great. That's not a great environment. So let's go

1146
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: ahead and finish up the story. You do not specify

1147
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: what things they did to him, but then went on

1148
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 3: to say he is afraid to talk to my parents.

1149
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: Didn't say why it's a coward, and that he has

1150
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: heard from this division my words, not his. He then

1151
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: also said he is used to being number one, and

1152
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: he's number two. He guess put his kids first and

1153
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't like that. Shiny exactly who he is prime

1154
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: a river justin Timberleg. Oh my god, get over it, dude.

1155
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: I was listening in during that part and had to

1156
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: stifle my laughs. I also recently found out that he

1157
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: and Darlene are getting married next July, and we are

1158
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: not invited. I know this from post and reposts online.

1159
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: She's doing basically bragging about how we are not invited.

1160
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: That's just one post where she was talking about the

1161
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: wedding and how they are so excited for family to

1162
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: be there. Well, we won't be. We were planning on

1163
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: going even if we were invited. Mark also doesn't know

1164
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: how extended family feels either, and I guarantee you he

1165
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: doesn't care.

1166
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the Haven Mass story.

1167
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: He's johny og host here. We're gonna get back to

1168
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: the stories, but he's a quick three minute break of

1169
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: ass from our sponsors.

1170
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: My sister wanted to drain our disabled mother's money, but

1171
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: I won't let her.

1172
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: Good, don't let her.

1173
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: Everyone in the story is in our mid to late forties.

1174
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: For context, my sister is the main caretaker for our mother,

1175
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: who had a severe stroke last year that has left

1176
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: her disabled. This has been absolutely devastating for our family.

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Kay sixteen eighty And

1178
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

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Speaker 2: the r slash Okay storytime sub Rather, I'm.

1180
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: Carly, I'm Keon, and we're.

1181
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: Here to give good advice. Goofully, But we don't have

1182
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: all the answers. We only know what we would do

1183
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: so let us know what you would do in the comments,

1184
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: and Opie says our mom reliant on caretakers for the

1185
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: most basic tasks such as eating and showering. It is

1186
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: an incredibly difficult situation for all, especially my mom and

1187
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: my sister, who has borne the main brunt of taking

1188
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: care of her and all of her affairs. My sister

1189
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: has been an absolute hero doing all of this, which

1190
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: I've told her many many times. The reason it fell

1191
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: mainly on my sister is in part because she is

1192
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: the only sibling that lives nearby I live overseas, and

1193
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: in part because the two of them have had a

1194
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: bit of a dysfunctional codependent relationship for many years. My

1195
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: sister and her husband are actors. My sister is done

1196
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: decently as an actor, while her husband has never really

1197
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: made much fu.

1198
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: Hr I was gonna ask for, are the A list,

1199
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: B list? Sounds like they're like C list, D list? Sorry,

1200
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: seed F list.

1201
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, they are both hardworking, but it's a hard industry.

1202
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Neither has ever tried to get any other kind of job.

1203
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Through the years, my mom has subsidized their living. She

1204
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: helped them buy a house, paid for the kids absorbitently

1205
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: high at private school tuitions and basically gave them money

1206
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: whenever they needed it during times my sister was working.

1207
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: I always advised her to find a side hustle to

1208
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: keep money coming during times when there was no work,

1209
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: but I was told to butt out of it and

1210
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: that it was none of my business, so I did.

1211
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: I will also add that around ten years ago my

1212
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: sister got she got it again a few years later.

1213
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: She is now in full emission, but has been hit

1214
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: hard with life struggles, so there's been a lot she's

1215
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: dealt with which added to her inability to make money.

1216
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: Through all of this, her husband has never really tried

1217
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: to find a job of any kind. He is not

1218
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: particularly skilled at anything, so they've always argued that he

1219
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: would rather focus on making it than use his time

1220
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: to make a little money that wouldn't help them enough.

1221
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: He's not even good at that. Yeah, we just keep

1222
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: roasting this man.

1223
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: This guy is just a leech. It looks like he's

1224
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 3: not doing anything useful. I haven't heard one positive comment.

1225
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: Is he a good dad?

1226
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: At least? My sister has also always been in a

1227
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: perpetual state of being max out with her three kids,

1228
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 2: so she contends that she needs him to help at home.

1229
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Cut two years and years later and nothing has changed.

1230
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: They have no other income stream and the acting is

1231
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: not bringing in nearly enough, especially for their lifestyle. They

1232
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: have rich friends and like to pretend they are too.

1233
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: No they bought a fancier car at a monthly amount

1234
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: I would never pay for myself, despite the fact that

1235
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: we make a steadier income. They have their three kids

1236
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: in expensive private schools, again something I wouldn't do. They

1237
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: refuse to consider living somewhere cheaper, and in general have

1238
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: been in poverty, subsidized by mom, always promising that they

1239
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: are on the brink of MegaNet. My mom has always

1240
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: been very frugal. She lived very cheaply so that she

1241
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: could give to us, especially my sister. She bought a

1242
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: house long ago that she has rented out for twenty

1243
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: five plus years. That is her retirement and main income.

1244
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: It's worth a lot of money now, and she has

1245
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of equity in it. She makes a decent

1246
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: amount of money for herself, but her money now is

1247
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: fully supporting not just her, but my sister and her

1248
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: entire family. Despite this, the family now pretty much hates

1249
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: my mom because she's living in their house, in their

1250
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: living room. It is definitely a heavy load. They are

1251
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: still living off her money. Their eldest teenage daughter is

1252
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: now driving my mom's car, and my sister does get

1253
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: a decent salary for caring for our mom from the government.

1254
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: It's hard, I know, but my mom isn't coming empty handed.

1255
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: We have hired caretakers that take care of our mom

1256
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: from nine am to three pm, and then the care

1257
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: falls on my sister in the evenings. All of this

1258
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: is sucking my sister emotionally. She is a complete wreck

1259
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: most days now. They have burned through my mom's savings

1260
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: to the point where it's almost gone. It is a

1261
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: very difficult situation, and I have tried to help in

1262
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: whatever way I can. I live a thirteen hour flight away.

1263
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: I also have two young children younger than my siblings

1264
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: kids who are all teens now. But I still fly

1265
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: every month or two and stay for two weeks to

1266
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: give my sister a break. I don't take any money

1267
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: and do all of this on my own dime. Each

1268
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: plane ticket is around a grand I do this gladly.

1269
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: But here's the rub. Because they're running out of money.

1270
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: My sister now wants to leverage the equity on my

1271
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: mom's home and take out three hundred k to live on.

1272
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: This would be three hundred k at a higher interest

1273
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: rate than what my mom pays for her mortgage. My

1274
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: sister's plan, if you can call it, that, is to

1275
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: take one hundred and fifty k for herself and my

1276
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: mom to live on, and put one hundred and fifty

1277
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: k in a high yield savings account, which pays a

1278
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: lower interest rate than what she is borrowing, so it

1279
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: would be at a loss to it in a bank

1280
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: until they find a deal on a bigger house for

1281
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: her to live in with her family in the trust's name. Somehow,

1282
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: in her mind it's not for her buying another house

1283
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: for herself. She argues. It could be a good investment,

1284
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: but it would be one where my mother receives no income.

1285
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: My sister has proven to be very bad with money,

1286
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: always against my advice and with arrogance. She will swear

1287
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: she has the best idea for something, won't listen to anyone,

1288
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: and when it blows up in her face, you can't

1289
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: bring it up or say anything, because then you're the

1290
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: bad guy. She has already declared bankruptcy once and is

1291
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: now contemplating doing it again. Just a few months ago,

1292
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: she bought one of those timeshare style things that now

1293
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: cost her an additional two hundred dollars a month and

1294
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: ended up being a scam.

1295
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: The list goes on.

1296
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: And on of all the dumb stuff she's done, but

1297
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: when she is doing it, you can't tell her she's wrong,

1298
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: and she is always convinced she knows best. Now Here

1299
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: we are again, but this time it's my mom's money,

1300
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: and my mom is not well enough to really understand

1301
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: or advocate for herself. I have been in talks with

1302
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: my mom's apartment's landlord about figuring out a way from

1303
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: my mom to return to her apartment. My sister's family

1304
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: has made no secret of the burden they feel my

1305
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: mom is, and my mom feels it too. She is

1306
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: really trying to leave. They have offered a ground floor

1307
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: apartment at a discounted rate, and we are hopeful that

1308
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: with caretakers, our mom can go back to her home,

1309
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: but she needs her money for herself. My sister's fair

1310
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: argument until now is that she can't work because my

1311
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: mom's care and affairs are so taxing. Of course, she

1312
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: also argues that her husband needs to help with the kids,

1313
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: so he can't work either. They still plan to use

1314
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: my mom's money for themselves even when my mom no

1315
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 2: longer lives there. I put my foot down and said

1316
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: she cannot take out the three hundred k unless we

1317
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: have an investment plan for it to generate income. Otherwise

1318
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: we'll be in the same situation in two years, but

1319
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: with higher living expenses. This will end in us selling

1320
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: my mom's house, which is her only source of income.

1321
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: I also said that my sister needs to stop taking

1322
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: our mom's money since my mom needs it for her care.

1323
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: But basically, my sister is refusing and telling me to

1324
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: butt out. I brought up her bad choices with finance

1325
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: and argued that this decision has to be made as

1326
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: a family, but my sister said that me bringing that

1327
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: up was hitting below the belt. She's now cursing me out,

1328
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: calling me a horrible sister, and saying she's cutting me

1329
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: out of her life. She is set on taking this

1330
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: money out regardless of what I say.

1331
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: Your sister is exhausting.

1332
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: The fact that she's using your mom as a money

1333
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: pit and a money wallah is ridiculous, and the fact

1334
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: that she won't listen to anybody. Obviously we're getting the

1335
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: gold in child Tennessey's here and the favorite where mommy

1336
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: literally gave her every single cent to make sure she

1337
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: lives a lavish lifestyle, which is also insane because she

1338
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: doesn't have the reality check to give her, you know,

1339
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: give her that notion she's doing all this lavish stuff.

1340
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: She's she didn't have a real job.

1341
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering if there's a way, because it seems

1342
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: like your mom is aware at least it's happening. If

1343
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: you guys can get it signed so that like your

1344
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: sister can't touch the money.

1345
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you took your words right out of my mouth.

1346
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: You need to get like something pen and paper your

1347
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: mom even though she like it's hard.

1348
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: I would wonder the rules though, with them both being

1349
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: like siblings kind of thing. But I think if the

1350
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: mom can sign off on it, you're probably good.

1351
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: But I'm what I'm afraid of is either a the

1352
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: sister since the sister takes care of the mom more so,

1353
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: or be like you's gonna take advantage of your mom

1354
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: and like no, like this is gonna be a good thing,

1355
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: right mom?

1356
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, child, no mom wants out.

1357
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't.

1358
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: I think if mom can actually get out, it'll be

1359
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: a lot easier.

1360
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: I think you need to have a sit down with

1361
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot of family members. This is like hilarious how

1362
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: nothing from like the sister like takes anything negatively. She's like, oh, yeah,

1363
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 3: this is the money pit. But when it runs out,

1364
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: it's so one of those things where like you you

1365
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: know she's gonna she's accident or she's gonna like a

1366
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: wall and you're like, no, I'm trying to prevent you,

1367
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: and she's like, no, you're just you're just trying to

1368
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: be better than me. You think you're better than me,

1369
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: you think you know more than me. I know more

1370
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: than you. I don't wait, no more, I know way

1371
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: more than you. And it's she's like, I want to

1372
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: just let you hit the wall. But it's like it's

1373
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 3: not like especially with her your mom involved. I know

1374
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: it's so impossible. If your mom wasn't involved, would I

1375
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: would be like, all right, you can do that, learn

1376
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: the hard way, and don't come crying to me for

1377
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: any support or money. But I don't definitely just do

1378
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: something with your mom. See if she can sign something

1379
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: where your sister cannot get away with this because that

1380
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: is ridiculous, A little bit left.

1381
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, but I really feel crazy.

1382
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: Is it really unreasonable to research a solid investment plan

1383
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: so that this money makes money. It's our only chance

1384
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: to have such a large sum to invest. To me,

1385
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: this seems smart, especially because my mom is now in

1386
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: good health and could live many more years. I feel

1387
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: my sister is committed to poverty, unwilling to do anything

1388
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: to change it, and now even the idea of an

1389
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: investment is too much for her because she is so

1390
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: maxed out emotionally. I am so upset because I'm just

1391
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: trying to help. But I also feel we have to

1392
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: have a frank conversation about this. My sister can't keep

1393
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: taking my mom's money. I told her, if she can't

1394
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: handle investing it, she should just take out enough, maybe

1395
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: one hundred K to live on and then focus on

1396
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: getting back on her feet. But she can't take all

1397
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: this money out unless we have a solid investment plan.

1398
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: To me, that seems reasonable. Am I the a hole? No? No,

1399
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: you're not.

1400
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know again, a genuine conversation, get

1401
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: some paperwork involved, where it's like in it's solidified in

1402
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 3: writing with a lawyer or something like that where this

1403
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: cannot happen. Have a conversation with everyone there, You, your sister,

1404
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: your mom, uh, and just try and figure something out.

1405
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: Your sister needs a big old reality check because this

1406
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: is insane and you need to be like, hey, honestly,

1407
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: you need to start, like financially figure it out, which

1408
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: if you know, you probably have done many times before.

1409
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: Op.

1410
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 3: But you'd like that timeshare thing, stop it downside the

1411
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: car or like get it to get a new car

1412
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: where it's a little bit cheaper. Stop trying to live

1413
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: this lavish lifestyle. Also, your husband needs a job. What's

1414
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 3: he doing. There's there's a lot of giant red flags

1415
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: for her and her husband, which is just so bothersome,

1416
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: and you want the best for your mom especially. This

1417
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: is gonna cause more stress for her. I don't know

1418
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 3: it's and I get it. Your sister's doing a lot,

1419
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: and I'm going to give her that she's she's helping

1420
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: out your mom and she does need that credit, you

1421
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: know where it's due. And it's probably a lot of

1422
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: high stress. But one polar high stress and high emotions,

1423
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: they do some crazy things. So prevent that from happening

1424
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: for sure.

1425
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the end of last story.