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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal and welcome back to Alana Rizzo, Alano. We missed you.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you back and we have a good

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Speaker 1: deal to talk about, even though it's still mid to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, great to be with you. Has always went

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Speaker 2: to Africa trip of a lifetime. I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to baseball. That's what the show is

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Speaker 2: about and the Atlanta Braves. Ken Rosenthal making some moves.

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Speaker 2: One that was interesting because it could have been dealt

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Speaker 2: looks like he's there to stay, typical.

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Speaker 1: Of Alexanthopolis, the Braves president of baseball operations. He struck

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Speaker 1: quickly two moves last night. The first was a trade

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Speaker 1: for Mauricio Dubon, who can be in their shortstop mix.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that. And the second move, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it was the first, I can't remember the sequence, but

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Speaker 1: the signing of Racial Iglesias. The resigning of Racio Iglesias

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Speaker 1: to a one year, sixteen million dollar contract that is

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Speaker 1: about the same actually it's exactly the same as he

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Speaker 1: made in the previous two seasons with the Braves. And

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting move because if you recall back. At

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Speaker 1: the deadline, the Braves made some trades, and they could

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Speaker 1: have traded Aglesias. He was certainly available or at least

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Speaker 1: a guy that people wanted, and yet they chose to

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Speaker 1: keep him. And Alexanthopolis addressed this last night with reporters,

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Speaker 1: and I've often talked about this about how when you

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Speaker 1: so to revive it and bring him back. It happens

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Speaker 1: quote from Anthopolis on that very idea. He said, we

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Speaker 1: always had intentions to bring Glacias back. I think staying

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you cut the cord and people move on

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Speaker 1: to other places, there's hard feelings. And perhaps this helped

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Speaker 1: the Braves with their courtship or recourtship of Iglesias and

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Speaker 1: He had a rough start to his season last year.

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Speaker 1: If you remember first twenty five appearances six point seven

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Speaker 1: So he is still a really good closer and is

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Speaker 1: someone obviously that the Braves wanted to target early, did

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Speaker 2: Telli Glacias is one of the closers. Can It's an

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Speaker 2: interesting closer market, is it not. I almost feel like

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Speaker 1: It is fair to say a lot. It's a really

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Speaker 1: good point. Actually, when you look at the closers who

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Speaker 1: are any number of interesting names out there now. Edwin

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Speaker 1: He is a free agent, and ken Lee Jansen back

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Speaker 2: I'm ken Devin Williams and the Yankees apparently discussing a

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Speaker 2: possible reunion. There's a lot of places besides the Bronx

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Speaker 2: that Devin Williams would be a good fit. In your estimation,

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Speaker 2: what's the likelihood he goes back to the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Probably not likely, but it's interesting that the Yankees still

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Speaker 1: Will Salmon of the Athletic Rule a really interesting story

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Speaker 1: five point eight million. The player that the Astros got back,

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Speaker 1: That's the big question. Now. I mentioned Alex Anthopolis likes

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Speaker 2: the Foul Territory Network. Let's talk a little bit, Ken

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Speaker 2: Rosent about the Angels and the Orioles. I remember when

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Speaker 1: It's a fascinating trade of Lona and a stunner too.

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Speaker 1: Grayson Rodriguez is an extremely talented pitcher and was one

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Speaker 1: If Grayson Rodriguez, even while having a restricted workload in

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Speaker 1: But he was a guy that was drafted by Mike Elias.

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Speaker 2: Ken When you talk about Kyle Tucker, he's likely going

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Speaker 2: to come with a very hefty price tag. You said

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Speaker 2: these questions in for Ken Rosenthal. The first one is

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make it more difficult for the Diamondbacks, at

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Speaker 2: Lars Newtbar, how fun is that name? For a hot second,

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Speaker 2: Lars Neutbar, it's in regards to him, Ken if you

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Speaker 1: I like the idea and I am a Josh Young fan.

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Speaker 1: All right? It's Josh Naylor and it's also the Mariners,

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Speaker 1: Even before that, as much of an impact as he

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Speaker 1: We know that. And yet when you have a player

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Speaker 1: with these two parties, Nayler signing a five year, ninety

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Speaker 1: It's eighteen and a half million free each year for

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Speaker 2: And also, Ken, and tell me if I'm wrong on this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Seattle's not the easiest place in the world

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Speaker 2: that says something too about the atmosphere and how good

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the president of baseball operations in Seattle, Jerry Depoto,

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Speaker 2: You know who else is very much respected and beloved

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Speaker 2: in that Mariner's clubhouse, Ken Rosetal, Well, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: a biped, it's a quadruped, and that's Tucker, the Mariner's dog.

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Speaker 2: Josh Naylor said that one of the reasons that he

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Speaker 2: Tucker was a big reason that Naylor is in Seattle

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Speaker 1: Good choice. Alta, I like it. Yes, I have seen

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Speaker 1: Tucker rolling the clubhouse. It is quite a sight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime there's a dog involved, I am in. All right,

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Speaker 2: All right, Ken, who do you have this week?

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Speaker 1: that is not what happened here. I've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: And when voters vote now, they have plenty of information,

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Speaker 1: and they've seen cal Raley as much as they've seen

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. And if they haven't seen him as much,

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Speaker 1: they certainly have access to the information about what he

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Speaker 1: has done. And a lot was written about cal Raley

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Speaker 1: and what he has done. And if you saw, there

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Speaker 1: was a tweet from Greg John's retired Mariners baseball writer,

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Speaker 1: and he said bum that cal Raley didn't win al VMVP.

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Speaker 1: But this wasn't an East Coast bias thing. Of the

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Speaker 1: ten Al East voters five to five split between Raleigh

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Speaker 1: and Judge Al West. Also a five to five split

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Speaker 1: difference came from Ale Central voters seven to three for Judge. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there it is now. I will say this. Not every

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Speaker 1: voter lives in the same spot where he's voting, for instance,

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Speaker 1: or she I am in the Baltimore chapter. Still, that

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Speaker 1: is where I started, even though I have not lived

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore for quite some time. The reason for that

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Speaker 1: is there would not be enough voters in the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: chapter to choose from. So they kept me there. The

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Speaker 1: BBWAA did that said still, it's just not a bias thing.

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Speaker 1: Does Aaron Judge get more publicity than cal Rawley, No question.

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Speaker 1: Does it influence the people who are voting, No, it

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Speaker 1: does not stop it with that Dorks of the Week,

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Speaker 1: all of you.

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Speaker 2: That's great. I don't need anything else. I don't even

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Speaker 2: need to do it door of the Dorks of the Week,

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Speaker 2: all of you. You heard it from Ken Rosenthal talk

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Speaker 2: about that left handed reliever market. Ken Rosenthal, it feels

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Speaker 2: like it'll be at a premium.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yankee struck an early signing with Ryan Yarborough. What do

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Speaker 2: you make of that and how do you see this

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Speaker 2: playing out in terms of the left handed bullpen arms.

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Speaker 1: Yarborough was a successful swingman for the Yankees last year,

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Speaker 1: if you remember, he started for a while before he

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Speaker 1: got hurt and did well. He is a guy that

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Speaker 1: is valuable to any staff, kind of like Eric Lauer

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Speaker 1: who replaced him in Toronto. So I don't necessarily consider

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Speaker 1: him part of the left handed relief market, but it

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Speaker 1: is going to be something to watch here because left

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Speaker 1: handed relievers are always in demand. Matt Gelbo of The

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Speaker 1: Athletic has reported that Matt Strom of the Phillies, a

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Speaker 1: quality left handed reliever, could be someone who is traded

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Speaker 1: in the weeks ahead. Now, we talked about the closers

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Speaker 1: in the first segment and how there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of action on them. I believe all of

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Speaker 1: them are right handed, so we're talking mostly about setup types.

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Speaker 1: But yes, a lot. And these guys are always players

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Speaker 1: who do fairly well in free agency considering their specialists.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there was a somebody was talking about it in

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Speaker 2: terms of their white Whale interview. Ken was the Mannings

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Speaker 2: on the Manning cast, So Peyton and Eli Manning were

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Speaker 2: talking about it, and Eli's was basically every defensive back

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Speaker 2: that picked off Peyton or something that's who he wanted

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Speaker 2: on his on his white whale list. Do you, Ken Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: who has had thousands and thousands of interviews, is there

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Speaker 2: somebody that you would love to have a conversation with.

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Speaker 1: In baseball? I don't know that there's anybody. I've talked

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Speaker 1: to pretty much everybody, and guys like Eddie Murray and

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Speaker 1: Albert Bell didn't talk. But because they didn't talk and

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Speaker 1: their careers are over. I'm not so interested in talking

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Speaker 1: to them anymore as I once was. But when you

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Speaker 1: look outside of baseball, I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan,

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Speaker 1: as a lot of members of the BBWA R. It's

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Speaker 1: a running joke among the younger writers. Okay, but I've

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Speaker 1: always thought, do I really want to meet him? Do

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Speaker 1: you want to meet you a hero? Because sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: disappointing you always hear, oh, he's a great guy. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he is, but that would be someone I'd like to

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Speaker 1: ask a lot of questions to. I'm not sure i'd

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Speaker 1: want to do it necessarily in purpose, And maybe that

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Speaker 1: would be what I'd like to do on Zoom Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you can just like go out to dinner

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Speaker 2: with them and just have it more of a you know,

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Speaker 2: a free casual Conversation's what's the one? If you only

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Speaker 2: had one question for the boss? What do you think

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Speaker 2: it would be?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I'm not sure. I don't know. I've got a lot.

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Speaker 1: One would be on the dynamic ticket pricing that he

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Speaker 1: went to two years ago upset a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and the guy that's got a lot of money, and

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Speaker 1: what would be the logic for that? He didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do that. That would be one, and that's really

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Speaker 1: not been asked of him because he doesn't do many interviews,

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Speaker 1: so that would be one for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, mine is also outside of baseball, but it's with

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Speaker 2: an artist that also has a lot of baseball ties.

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Speaker 2: It is not Bruce Springsteen, but it is Morgan Wallen,

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Speaker 2: and the reason being is because not only am I

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Speaker 2: obsessed with his music and will follow him anywhere, even

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Speaker 2: though that's a little odd, I'm not the only one,

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Speaker 2: by the way, and yes, I will be in Gainesville

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Speaker 2: next year for that concert. He is a big, big

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Speaker 2: baseball fan. Ken he grew up playing baseball, blew out

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Speaker 2: his arm, was not able to play anymore. Pursued music.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's worked out for him, but he has a

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Speaker 2: great song called the ninety eight Braves. John Smoltz is

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Speaker 2: actually in one of his videos for the ninety eight

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Speaker 2: Braves talking about losing to the San Diego Padres. He

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Speaker 2: has a lot of baseball references in his music and

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Speaker 2: I'm I just love his stuff. There's not a song

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Speaker 2: out there that Morgan Wallen sings that I don't enjoy.

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Speaker 2: So that would be my white Whale interview if anybody

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Speaker 2: out there would like to help me with Morgan Wallen

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Speaker 2: and help Ken with Bruce Springsteen. We'd appreciate that very much.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it here for Fair Territory,

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Speaker 2: Don't forget. Foul Territory is next. Some really good guests

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Speaker 2: today on Foul Territory, of course, So who is it?

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Speaker 2: Todd Fraser, Aeric Kratz, Scott bron They're going to welcome

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Speaker 2: Trek Scooble, have you heard of him, Jake Berger of

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Speaker 2: course of the Rangers, and Robert Murray Dodger's Territory with

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Speaker 2: myself and Clint Passias. Follows that, we're gonna have Baseball

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Speaker 2: America's Josh Norris and he's going to join the show.

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Speaker 1: Ken, Great sounds, great good lineup today.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, don't forget. Fair Territory returns Monday at

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Speaker 2: ten a m. Eastern with Ken Rosenthal. Have a great week, everybody,