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Speaker 1: La Rams are entering a strange phase here. They've seized
Speaker 1: on every opportunity they can to build a championship contender,
Speaker 1: currently playing their worst football. The year you pick up
Speaker 1: Von Miller, you pick up Odell Beckham Junior. They had
Speaker 1: little impact on the game last night, blown out and
Speaker 1: by the Niners, but they haven't had much time with
Speaker 1: the Rams. In fairness to both of those acquisitions. The
Speaker 1: rest of the team didn't show up last week against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: looked even worse last night against San Francisco. Now you
Speaker 1: go into a bye week. Now the world's falling around
Speaker 1: them at seven and three, but there are more questions
Speaker 1: than answers. Matthew Stafford started out the season look like
Speaker 1: an MVP candidate. The rest of the team two disappointing weeks,
Speaker 1: just like Stafford did, throwing two interceptions in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey. They were quiet last night. The
Speaker 1: running gang didn't get it done. In two weeks, they
Speaker 1: go to Green Bay for a very important test, and
Speaker 1: we're going to find out soon enough if the Rams
Speaker 1: trade deadline moves payoff, if they can regain their confidence
Speaker 1: for the stretch run, and the reaction after last night's loss.
Speaker 1: Here is the head coach, Sean McVeigh. Robert's a very
Speaker 1: important player. You know, you never replace him. It certainly
Speaker 1: didn't help not to have him, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to use that as an excuse. We didn't play well enough,
Speaker 1: We didn't make enough plays. Our best players didn't play
Speaker 1: up to their standards. We'll look inwardly. We're gonna figure
Speaker 1: this thing out and we're gonna come back freaking swinging.
Speaker 1: I promise you that, all right, these last seven games
Speaker 1: of the regular season, and coach was talking about not
Speaker 1: having Robert Woods there, who is very underrated and I
Speaker 1: think probably helped Cooper Cup have this breakout season, but
Speaker 1: he's not there the rest of the year. Here's ob
Speaker 1: j on his first game with the Rams. These moments
Speaker 1: don't divide you, and you know they bring you stronger
Speaker 1: and closer together. And I'm happy to be here. You know,
Speaker 1: just over the bywe'd be able to get in the
Speaker 1: playbook and really try and learn every single thing possible
Speaker 1: and always quick. But I'm ready, I'm excited. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to be here. You know, it comes down to this.
Speaker 1: The Niners have the blueprint to beat the Rams. They
Speaker 1: run the football. They won five straight in the series,
Speaker 1: including the second longest winning streak against the Rams. That's
Speaker 1: the club's second longest winning streak against LA. The Niners
Speaker 1: picked off Matthew Stafford on the opening drive, then when
Speaker 1: eighteen plays for a touchdown, really never look back. But
Speaker 1: you run the football there, and it feels like the
Speaker 1: Rams are more equipped to stop you in the passing
Speaker 1: game as most teams are. The Niners when they run
Speaker 1: the football, you just ask Jimmy Garoppolo to make a
Speaker 1: couple of plays and Deebo Samuel was unbelievable last night
Speaker 1: running catching and San Francisco picks up the win. I
Speaker 1: don't know what this means for San Francisco because they've
Speaker 1: sort of been mired in mediocrity there and we keep
Speaker 1: waiting for them to recapture what they had a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago going to the Super Bowl. But this
Speaker 1: is what they do. They run the football and play
Speaker 1: good defense, and you saw that last night. I don't
Speaker 1: need to ask Jimmy Garoppolo to do too much. Just
Speaker 1: don't do too much where it hurts us. And really
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Jimmy Garoppolo is out there and
Speaker 1: hand the ball off, make a couple of big plays,
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over. And if you're not going
Speaker 1: to put pressure on him, Jimmy Garoppolo is hitting once
Speaker 1: last night, You're gonna have a pretty high success rate
Speaker 1: if your quarterback has only hit one time. But running
Speaker 1: the football it's a key ingredient for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: It was when they went to the Super Bowl. They
Speaker 1: ran the football. And if they can come back with
Speaker 1: that kind of game plan, I said yesterday, I thought
Speaker 1: the role they would play the rest of the season
Speaker 1: would be spoiler. I don't know if they can get
Speaker 1: back into it. It feels like everybody is sort of
Speaker 1: on the periphery of being a playoff contender. I think
Speaker 1: there's only four or five teams that you'd probably go
Speaker 1: they're not going to be in playoff contention in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But San Francisco last night. They were
Speaker 1: the better team. You didn't ask for it, but you
Speaker 1: got it. Todd has a limerick the Niners over the Rams. Wait. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait a little bit later on, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair to everybody. You just want
Speaker 1: to get it out of the way. I think, oh,
Speaker 1: you're ready, you're ready. A little bit of a hiccup there.
Speaker 1: Jay is free from the Browns and can sign with
Speaker 1: anyone who's down. His dad's video not cool. Try to
Speaker 1: make Baker the fool now he can. Well, now I'll
Speaker 1: see I messed up here. Okay, so that was the
Speaker 1: last That was the last limerick. You got the typed
Speaker 1: put instead of out threw me out, threw me off.
Speaker 1: Stop it. That's two mistakest my Mica on thirty seconds ago.
Speaker 1: I was talking, come on, you had a great morning meeting.
Speaker 1: I gave you a plus one. I did have a
Speaker 1: good line in there. Okay, yeah you did. There was
Speaker 1: an interception last night by the forty nine ers and
Speaker 1: it was caught by the undercarriage or another region of
Speaker 1: the defensive back, and Todd said that he would call
Speaker 1: that a completed crotch. Yeah, you have to check anyone
Speaker 1: I should review you. Yeah, yeah, okay, stay ready here,
Speaker 1: you're ready with your limit because I don't know if
Speaker 1: you have the yips. May can't reach first space, I
Speaker 1: can't reach home play. I don't know what's going on. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I rehearsed this, so here we go. Just go O.
Speaker 1: B J and Vaughan debuts were shams. Mcvay's Rosta did
Speaker 1: not earn their clams. Niners put lotion in the basket
Speaker 1: through la in the casket, an unexpected silence of the lambs. Right,
Speaker 1: I did again? You made that clothes and blue to
Speaker 1: what is happening to me? Oh? Everything was going and
Speaker 1: I said lambs instead of ram. You got the It
Speaker 1: was even in the above the noise headlines, I had
Speaker 1: silence of the rams. Oh, so I get another shot
Speaker 1: of that's it? No, No, you're done. I can't read it.
Speaker 1: One time, I swear seat and I looked at each
Speaker 1: other and we were about to give Todd to like
Speaker 1: a laugh and applause. That was a native that was original.
Speaker 1: Oh it was really well done. It was well written Todd,
Speaker 1: but it's just not executed. Can you get limri yips?
Speaker 1: Can you get what I really don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: It's twice in a row. You might have to have
Speaker 1: a designated reader, Chuck knoblock. I know you love when
Speaker 1: I make references from like thirty years ago. I just
Speaker 1: I can't reach first base. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's not good. An unexpected silence of the rams. Yes,
Speaker 1: missed the most important word in there. That's just unacceptable.
Speaker 1: You missread your own words. But limber yips, that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's somewhat clever. I know it doesn't make up
Speaker 1: for messing up twice at a row, but well, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a crotch that was good. That was good,
Speaker 1: and unexpected silence of the rams. All right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, read it again. Oh, Beach and von debuts
Speaker 1: were shams. Mcvay's roster did not earn their clams, niners
Speaker 1: put lotion in the basket, through la in the casket
Speaker 1: and unexpected silence of the rams. Let's go all right.
Speaker 1: You can't get it back there. You can't unring the bell,
Speaker 1: you can't go all right. You're good. I'll talk to
Speaker 1: you tomorrow time. Thank you. See your Wednesday. McClellan, what
Speaker 1: do you have full. Question Wise, let's start with those Rams.
Speaker 1: Who's winning the NFC West, The Cardinals, the Rams, and
Speaker 1: the Niners At four and five, I guess they're out
Speaker 1: of it. But basically the Rams gonna win that division.
Speaker 1: What happens if they don't? You know what happens standalone game?
Speaker 1: We overreact. Now that's back to back games where they
Speaker 1: haven't played well. They go into a bye week and
Speaker 1: von Miller and OBJ get a chance to sort of
Speaker 1: get more acclimated to the surroundings the playbook. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if Kyler Murray's going to play this weekend.
Speaker 1: I think there's still a chance that he might not
Speaker 1: be playing. You know, you can't be flirting with that.
Speaker 1: You've got to have home field advantage because you know
Speaker 1: there's one team that has that first round by If not,
Speaker 1: the Rams are going to be like a five seed.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be on the road. Now, you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to Dallas to open up. You're gonna go to Green
Speaker 1: Bay after that or Tampa Bay after that. That's where
Speaker 1: it gets tricky when you want to make a playoff run.
Speaker 1: I know we've seen teams that have been weren't the
Speaker 1: Packers a sixth seed when they won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. I mean it's rare. It can be done,
Speaker 1: but be pretty difficult, sledding to go to Dallas, then
Speaker 1: go to Green Bay or go to Tampa. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: isn't the weirdest thing about last night's game to ignore
Speaker 1: the fact that Jimmy Garoppolo's dead man walking. He had
Speaker 1: a great game on national TV against a very good defense,
Speaker 1: two best defenders in sports, and there's no future for him,
Speaker 1: right Or is there? I gave up a ton. I
Speaker 1: don't think there is. I mean, if there is, then
Speaker 1: that means that they blew it on Trey Lance because
Speaker 1: you gave up an awful lot for Trey Lance. And
Speaker 1: I think the more they win, the less opportunity or
Speaker 1: likely it is that Trey Lance is going to play
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, because if you're still
Speaker 1: in playoff contention, you're gonna have Jimmy Garoppolo, it feels like.
Speaker 1: But if they start to lose, they lose three out
Speaker 1: of their next five, then you might see Trey Lance
Speaker 1: as they start to make that transition into the Trey
Speaker 1: Lance era and say goodbye to Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, club,
Speaker 1: Jimmy only had one hundred eighty yards last night. He
Speaker 1: didn't I could have led that team to a to
Speaker 1: a win. Did he throw any interceptions? He did not?
Speaker 1: But they ran eighteen play run drive to start the game.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this is what you expect out
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo, right, But what happens if they fall behind?
Speaker 1: Is he a quarterback who can get you back in? No,
Speaker 1: he's not. No, you put pressure on him. And the
Speaker 1: numbers are really bad for Jimmy Garoppolo. But if you
Speaker 1: if you established the run and you let him just
Speaker 1: you know, make a play, make a play to George Kittle.
Speaker 1: That's it. Just keep the defense honest. But the fact
Speaker 1: they couldn't stop the run and they knew San Francisco
Speaker 1: was going to run because San Francisco always runs against
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, okay, I had a pole question. Who
Speaker 1: regrets their trade the most Miami Dolphins trading basically up
Speaker 1: from twelve to six to take jail and Waddle or
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers traded the house to go from
Speaker 1: twelve to three to take trade lance despite all the
Speaker 1: rumors that they really wanted Mac Jones. But if you
Speaker 1: look back at those trades, I'm not sure they make
Speaker 1: sense now. I think the Dolphins did well with Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they had to make I don't
Speaker 1: know if they had to trade everything to go up
Speaker 1: to at Jalen Waddle this year's first rounder, which could
Speaker 1: be pretty high if you continue to struggle. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Eagles with Davante Smith, I mean they probably could have
Speaker 1: gotten That's the only thing you probably could have got
Speaker 1: a receiver at twelve. I don't know if it's good
Speaker 1: as Waddle. Well, the Niners could have waited and got
Speaker 1: mac Jones. You know they they gave up the number
Speaker 1: twelve pick, a first and third round pick, a first
Speaker 1: round pick in twenty three to move up to number
Speaker 1: three to get Trey Lance. But that was somebody that
Speaker 1: was an organization that people thought he's the ideal quarterback
Speaker 1: for Kyle Shanahan. Chris Simms, who's great friends with Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan before the draft, said it's gonna be h mac Jones,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it wasn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. Eleventh hour or maybe they were locked
Speaker 1: in and they wanted to just you know, try to
Speaker 1: deceive us there, but Trey Lance better be great, not
Speaker 1: good great, and right now he needs to he needs
Speaker 1: more football because he came in basically as a one
Speaker 1: year wonder at North Dakota State, and so far he
Speaker 1: looks like he's just an athlete there, not a quarterback,
Speaker 1: not yet. But you know, let me see when he
Speaker 1: gets a full season when it's his team. The Rams
Speaker 1: what they traded for von Miller a second and a
Speaker 1: third round pick. Okay, the trade with Jared Goff for Stafford,
Speaker 1: that was what first round picks in twenty two and
Speaker 1: twenty three, but the Rams are probably going to be
Speaker 1: obviously at the tail end of the first round there.
Speaker 1: You know, they'd be giving up the twenty seventh pick
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I think it was the smart
Speaker 1: move to move on from Jared Goff. Let's just see
Speaker 1: Stafford in a big game, in a big moment. Can
Speaker 1: you count on him? I mean, that's just standalone game,
Speaker 1: that's not a playoff game. Last night and he threw
Speaker 1: two first quarter interceptions there. You know, ob j looked
Speaker 1: like he stopped running on you know, the first one.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just want to see how Stafford
Speaker 1: does when these games really matter, and I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be the difference of is this team going
Speaker 1: to make a playoff run or not. Yeah, I'm a club. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about before the show that Robert
Speaker 1: Woods not being there. That's it's big. It seems like
Speaker 1: a really big deal. It is, and he's not a
Speaker 1: household name, but if you talk to people who are
Speaker 1: around the Rams, they'll tell you how valuable he has been,
Speaker 1: and certainly helping Cooper Cup because if you don't have him,
Speaker 1: and this is where OBJ has to step into that role.
Speaker 1: But Cooper Cup, even though he had eleven catches last night,
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like that he was a true weapons
Speaker 1: as he has been. But Robert Woods is a very
Speaker 1: valuable player for that team. All Right, we'll settle on
Speaker 1: a pole question. We'll have play of the day, stat
Speaker 1: of the Day or Stats of the day coming up,
Speaker 1: but we'll check in with the Rams when we return.
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Speaker 1: Play of the day, stat of the Day coming up
Speaker 1: the Niners rushing numbers versus the Rams the last five games,
Speaker 1: all victories, one fifty six last night, one twelve, one,
Speaker 1: twenty two, one, nineteen ninety nine, averaging one twenty one
Speaker 1: point six. If you can keep the ball out of
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's hands, if you're Kyle Shanahan, you know you're
Speaker 1: you're doing something right because then you just ask Jimmy
Speaker 1: to compliment what you're doing doing running and they had
Speaker 1: forty four rushing attempts thirty three, thirty seven, thirty three,
Speaker 1: forty one. Those things take a toll on the defense.
Speaker 1: It's bringing Gary Klein, who's kind enough to join us
Speaker 1: this morning, covers the Rams for the La Times. How
Speaker 1: would you sum up last night's performance, Gary Well, I
Speaker 1: think for the Rams, I think Jimmy Garoppolo used a
Speaker 1: term along the lines of it was kind of a
Speaker 1: soul sucking drive that first eighteen play March that the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers just kind of ran it down their throat,
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, Kyle, Kyle Shanahan's just been masterful
Speaker 1: at not putting Garoppolo in situations where he's going to
Speaker 1: make mistakes. And the last few times they've played the Rams,
Speaker 1: he's played air free and we've seen what happened. Were
Speaker 1: you surprised last night? You know, Dan, I will say
Speaker 1: I chose the forty nine Ers to win that game
Speaker 1: just because of all the turmoil that was going on
Speaker 1: with the Rams. And some of that was good in
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the Von Miller trade. Odell Beckham Jr.
Speaker 1: Is a choir, but then when they lost Robert Woods
Speaker 1: just a few days before the games, kind of an
Speaker 1: unheralded player that is really key to that offense. And
Speaker 1: again with you know, with the history with the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers, it just seemed like the Rams were ripe
Speaker 1: to be beat for the second time in a row.
Speaker 1: Explain to the audience the value of Robert Woods. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a player, damn that actually I've covered when
Speaker 1: he was a freshman at USC, so I've seen him
Speaker 1: grow up and even from those early days, he's a
Speaker 1: guy that is not going to complain. A very talented receiver,
Speaker 1: but really does everything, especially in the blocking game. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that they match up against defensive linemen, linebackers
Speaker 1: and just kind of very unselfish and gives Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: and other receivers an opportunity to run all kinds of routes.
Speaker 1: A great receiver in his own right, but really just
Speaker 1: from a team leaders standpoint, from all those things that
Speaker 1: you don't see necessarily in the stat box. He's been
Speaker 1: instrumental to their success since he signed as a free
Speaker 1: agent in twenty seventeen. Can Odell Beckham Junior fill that role?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that they're going to ask
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior to actually fill that role because he
Speaker 1: is not a blocker. At least he hasn't been, you know,
Speaker 1: throughout his career, not as the level of Robert Woods.
Speaker 1: So Sean McVeigh is going to have to figure out
Speaker 1: how to get him involved. And of course, early in
Speaker 1: the season, you know, they signed to Sean Jackson to
Speaker 1: give them that deep threat, and then they really couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get him any touches. So
Speaker 1: McVeigh didn't waste any time last night, OBJ got the
Speaker 1: first play of the game, they went to him. So
Speaker 1: it's obvious they want to get him involved, but it's
Speaker 1: going to take him more than one day to fit
Speaker 1: into that offense. I don't know what to expect. Adam
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford because you know, wait, first couple of months
Speaker 1: pretty good, but you know, when it comes to big game,
Speaker 1: we want to see what he does in a big game.
Speaker 1: And it feels like this success or failure, this team
Speaker 1: might be more predicated on Matthew Stafford than Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: von Miller, Jalen Ramsey or Odell Beckham Junior. What do
Speaker 1: you make of Matthew Stafford so far? Well, when they
Speaker 1: traded for Matthew Stafford, that was their first sign right
Speaker 1: that the Rams are all in Okay, They've got to
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl this year. With Stan Cronki
Speaker 1: and Sofi Stadium, they have to be playing in that game.
Speaker 1: And I think the first part of the season Stafford
Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate. He looked, he looked great. But
Speaker 1: these last few games he has made some decisions and
Speaker 1: some players that really for Rams fans. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: in the press box, but you can almost hear fans going,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's what Jared Goff did. He's had
Speaker 1: some series like that, and you know he's a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1: My sense is that with Gary Froze up there by
Speaker 1: week he'll come back. But the ultimate test is gonna
Speaker 1: be when they get to the playoffs. Better team the
Speaker 1: Rams are Chargers, I would say the Rams at this point,
Speaker 1: but Justin Herbert is a terrific quarterback. And getting back
Speaker 1: to that pressure, Dan, you know, I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: a scenario if the Chargers really start playing well and
Speaker 1: somehow get to the Super Bowl and Dean Spanos is
Speaker 1: in that owner suite for the Super Bowl instead of
Speaker 1: Stan Cronky. That would be an absolute disaster for the Rams.
Speaker 1: Handicap the Rams the second half of the season by week,
Speaker 1: and then you got the Packers coming up. How tough
Speaker 1: is this schedule going to be? Well, I think it
Speaker 1: even for a team that was playing as well as
Speaker 1: the Rams, this was going to be a tough stretch.
Speaker 1: You've got road trips to Green Bay, to Minnesota, to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: all on holiday weekends. By the way, Jacksonville comes into town,
Speaker 1: but you got to go on the road to play
Speaker 1: the Cardinals as well. And then also the Seahawks come
Speaker 1: to your place, and the forty Niners, who've been invincible
Speaker 1: against the Rams, finished the season at Sofi Stadium. So
Speaker 1: it is not an easy schedule by any means. And
Speaker 1: if the Rams can't get it together. They're going to
Speaker 1: have some issues, yeah, because you could end up as
Speaker 1: the five seed. And I mentioned you could be going
Speaker 1: to Dallas and then going to Green Bay or Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, is this team equipped to be
Speaker 1: able to string together a couple of on the road
Speaker 1: playoff wins. Well under McVeigh, they've been pretty successful on
Speaker 1: the road. But you know, the NFC is so stacked,
Speaker 1: and if you look at the Rams, they've only beaten
Speaker 1: one team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers early in the season
Speaker 1: that has a winning record. They lost the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: they lost to the Cardinals. You know, they're and they're
Speaker 1: even losing now to the San Fordino to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, who are probably better than that three and
Speaker 1: five record they had. But they've got a lot to prove.
Speaker 1: They looked like a super Bowl team early in the season.
Speaker 1: But seventeen games, the longest season in NFL history, they've
Speaker 1: got They've got a long road ahead. What about the Cardinals?
Speaker 1: So they still the team to beat? Well, they still
Speaker 1: are Dan But you know, going into the season, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think I'm alone and thinking I keep
Speaker 1: waiting for the Cardinals to be the Cardinals right to
Speaker 1: blow it, to not be able to maintain this. But
Speaker 1: when they were winning, you know, the week before with
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, without even Kyler Murray, they do seem like
Speaker 1: they have some staying power and that defense is pretty
Speaker 1: good even without JJ Watt. So I don't think you
Speaker 1: can at this point ten games in expect the Cardinals
Speaker 1: to fold like they might have in the past. And
Speaker 1: the Rams lost a great opportunity last night to gain
Speaker 1: some ground. Gary, Thank you, We appreciate your time, and
Speaker 1: hopefully we get an opportunity to cross palace again. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan. That's Gary Klein. He covers the Rams for
Speaker 1: the La Times. You know, the Rams are seven and three,
Speaker 1: their second in the NFC West. You got to buy
Speaker 1: week and that will be beneficial with On Miller, Nodell, Beckham,
Speaker 1: really everybody, because it's it's not only these players have
Speaker 1: to get acclimated to this system and the players and
Speaker 1: the team and surroundings. The players have to get acclimated
Speaker 1: to the new players coming in as well. Mclub And
Speaker 1: what's poll question we're gonna go with today? Okay, we
Speaker 1: have a debate over here. Most exciting wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Paul and I are arguing about this because
Speaker 1: he's making a case for Deebo Samuel, where I think
Speaker 1: Debo is not quite the most exciting. I don't know
Speaker 1: who the most exciting is, but I see him more
Speaker 1: as like an an Kuon, bold and tough guy wide receiver. Well,
Speaker 1: he also is in a system that's not a pass
Speaker 1: happy system. He doesn't he's not going to get as
Speaker 1: many opportunities. Here's a lot of He's second in the
Speaker 1: league in yards, He's up there. I think he's great
Speaker 1: when he gets the ball. I just don't know how many.
Speaker 1: Like where is he with targets in the NFL? And
Speaker 1: I'd be curious where he is ranking wise with targets.
Speaker 1: He doesn't go long, And that's sort of what I
Speaker 1: was getting with Paul. He's I like your golong fly,
Speaker 1: like Randy Moss kind of exciting receiver. Well, nobody's like
Speaker 1: Randy mollass. Yes, Paul, two things. I think we may
Speaker 1: have to take Tyreek Hill off this pole question. That
Speaker 1: seems it seems like from excitement that's for most targeted
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the NFL, Cooper Cup is number one
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill to Davante Adams, three h Deebo Samuel seventh.
Speaker 1: So he's up there, but not upper upper. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think boto. When you go to wide receiver, people liked
Speaker 1: Remember Odell Beckham Junior was the most popular receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL i'd ever had. They like new flashy like
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, Jamar Chase everyone. Everyone likes the new shiny
Speaker 1: toy and wide receiver. Yeah, Demo plays to me like
Speaker 1: Troy Palomalo played defensive back, reckless, out of control, young,
Speaker 1: don't care about my health, run full blast on every play.
Speaker 1: It feels like every place is last. Maybe it's not
Speaker 1: like he's not a speed burner like Tyree Hill, but
Speaker 1: he's sure. It's fun to watch. He's deceptive though. I
Speaker 1: think he's bigger than what you think, and I think
Speaker 1: he's fast than what you think, or at least there
Speaker 1: are guys who are football fast. You know Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1: I always go back to when you saw him on
Speaker 1: the field. He looked a whole lot faster than a
Speaker 1: guy who ran a four six forty at the combine.
Speaker 1: It just there was something about him, and it's football
Speaker 1: speed as opposed to track speed. That's just something different
Speaker 1: about them. I didn't know there was a feud going
Speaker 1: on with Rex Ryan, the former Jets head coach, and
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, the current Jets head coach. But here's Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan on the Mother's ship and he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be compared to the current Jets coach. This guy's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a defensive guru. I heard everything. I think
Speaker 1: it personal on this one. Everything I heard about was, well,
Speaker 1: this guy's a lot like a lot like myself, but
Speaker 1: without the bad part. Yeah, well, some of the bad
Speaker 1: part you need because this team doesn't play with any
Speaker 1: any damn heart. I mean, that's the thing that's disappointing
Speaker 1: to me. And don't ever compare this guy to me,
Speaker 1: this Robert Sala to me, because statistically one time they
Speaker 1: were like a defense all right, here's one thing they're
Speaker 1: going to be familiar with. Four out of five years,
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers were dead lasts in their division,
Speaker 1: so he's going to be dead last again. So he's
Speaker 1: used to that. So to me, I'm a little pissed
Speaker 1: off about it when when I hear that this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, his backgrounds a lot like yours. No, it
Speaker 1: isn't No, it isn't. Well. Robert Sala was on the
Speaker 1: Michael k Show on ESPN Radio, and here's Michael's question, said,
Speaker 1: coach Robert Salo, your thoughts on what Rex said? Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've never met Rex. I've never had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Rex. I don't even know him except
Speaker 1: for people who know him throughout the leak. So obviously,
Speaker 1: if it's that personal for him, he knows where to
Speaker 1: find me. So will you surprise that he said it?
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by him. He's he's always got something
Speaker 1: to say. How about that there is some fight in
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's the head coach who's got some fight
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know where this kind of came
Speaker 1: out of. Was it manufactured? Because I don't know if
Speaker 1: people are going you know, Robert Salo reminds me of
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. Okay, how defensive minded coaches with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Rex had two teams that went to the AFC title Game.
Speaker 1: Now did he inherit a better team than Robert Sala did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I was like, Uh, we're playing the feud and
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we were there was a feud
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, And what is the Robert sala comparison?
Speaker 1: Like tarnishing his great legacy with the Jets. He give
Speaker 1: me a break, dude, Like it felt like he was
Speaker 1: overly upset with us yes time, and then he said,
Speaker 1: my teeth are much wider than salad. Why aren't even
Speaker 1: going one? Football? Todd is obsessed with Rex Ryan's teeth.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. My wife wore it
Speaker 1: up to me when we were watching countdown, and then
Speaker 1: I took a good look at it, like it's like
Speaker 1: it took like white out or like liquid paper and
Speaker 1: cull it in each give your teeth. It's an extremely
Speaker 1: porcelain white. This is the mistake that older guys make
Speaker 1: when they get their veneers, they get their teeth done.
Speaker 1: They always go too white and then it you know,
Speaker 1: maybe instead of a ten, go down to a six.
Speaker 1: That's it still look good. But don't go ten because then,
Speaker 1: especially when you're on TV. Yes, McLevin, you don't remember
Speaker 1: when they hired Salah, you said, finally they found their
Speaker 1: new rex Ry. I think I said finally they found
Speaker 1: their Rob Ryan. Yeah, what's a rex Ry? Known as
Speaker 1: like this wildly aggressive defensive coach like Salah's never I've
Speaker 1: never heard of comparison the two. I haven't, but maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I haven't followed the local tabloids in New York
Speaker 1: about Robert Sala defensive minded coach, and he's coming in
Speaker 1: and he's gonna bring that defensive minded philosophy to the Jets.
Speaker 1: I must have missed that. Yeah, Paul, do you think
Speaker 1: Rex is just trying to remind people that he wasn't
Speaker 1: that bad considering it was the Jets. He was five
Speaker 1: hundred coach with the Jets. Yeah, nine wins, eleven wins,
Speaker 1: eight six eight four. That's that's like he should be
Speaker 1: in the Jets Ring of Honor. He won four playoff games.
Speaker 1: I think about it. How many other coaches in Jets
Speaker 1: history have four playoff victories? Two? But you know, in
Speaker 1: an amazing talent like that, and he's not coaching any longer,
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's what I want to know. Okay,
Speaker 1: he inherited a very good team, by the way, and
Speaker 1: then spent five years dismantling it. He had no clue
Speaker 1: on offense, but you know, the defensive minded coach, and
Speaker 1: they did they get They got results, going to the
Speaker 1: AFC title game, twice. They haven't been to the playoffs
Speaker 1: since he left. In fairness to Rex, but I think
Speaker 1: you're right, PAULI. I think it's like, hey, don't forget
Speaker 1: about how great I was or I wasn't that bad
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to be compared. But I don't
Speaker 1: know who. Can you find any article that says Robert
Speaker 1: Sala is the next Rex Ryan? Yeah? Coach Sala also
Speaker 1: went you know where to find me? Which is the
Speaker 1: beefy Guy's scoreboard. It's like, if it comes to it,
Speaker 1: I'll meet you outside. I'll meet you outside. You know
Speaker 1: where to find me? It's all that ILK, Like that's
Speaker 1: a I want to I'll fight you, But I'm not
Speaker 1: saying i'll fight you. Yeah. Uh, you know where to
Speaker 1: find me? And he wears those medium long sleeves to
Speaker 1: show the traps. Yeah, at all times, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Salo there. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go Salo. You
Speaker 1: know what, tail of the tape, Salo looks like he's
Speaker 1: in a little better shape there. Yeah. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that there was this this feud going on between the two.
Speaker 1: It's good for TV, but it might be just Rex saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I did some pretty good things there,
Speaker 1: and nobody's done anything since I left there. Yeah, McLean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you forget like there was Adam Gaze for a while there,
Speaker 1: there was Todd Bowles. I don't even connect solid Riot,
Speaker 1: I think just because he came in as a defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and with San Francisco. Yeah see, I'll let me
Speaker 1: tell you, Okay, I take that personal. Okay, I take
Speaker 1: that personal. Wow. I don't see Eric Mangini saying anything
Speaker 1: about Salo now because Mangini, I think built that team,
Speaker 1: that roster. He played a really large role, and then
Speaker 1: Rex came in and took over what I think was
Speaker 1: considered a pretty good roster, a talented roster. I don't
Speaker 1: hear Rex saying, hey, I'm gonna thank Eric Mangini for
Speaker 1: helping me with that team that went to the AFC
Speaker 1: title game twice. Man Rare, I like it though, like
Speaker 1: there's this team has no fight, and then you have
Speaker 1: the current head coach who's willing to meet you anywhere
Speaker 1: you know where to find me, Yeah, Paul. The first
Speaker 1: year Rex Ryan was with the Jets, Mark Sanchez was
Speaker 1: his quarterback. Sanchez no offense through twelve touchdowns and twenty
Speaker 1: picks and they end up an AFC title game. You
Speaker 1: should win Coach of the Year for that. Yeah, piece, Well,
Speaker 1: Rex was every good with the offense to begin with.
Speaker 1: They had Thomas Jones and Sean Green and the average
Speaker 1: like four and a half yards to carry the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: run the football and play good defense. But but Rex
Speaker 1: is sounding a little bit more like his father. Buddy.
Speaker 1: His buddy was irascible like Rex as a personality. No,
Speaker 1: but you know, was he a great head coach? No,
Speaker 1: but he he didn't understand defense, and his brother understood
Speaker 1: defense and his father understood defense. Yeah, MC club. Do
Speaker 1: you think Buddy Ryan could survive in today's game, considering
Speaker 1: after a game he admitted putting a bounty on the
Speaker 1: opposing a kick girl. He could not know the NFL
Speaker 1: would frown upon that, but Buddy just didn't care. I
Speaker 1: love you a few stories you've had. It was when
Speaker 1: he was with Philadelphia and I asked him about the
Speaker 1: offensive line and Randall Cunningham getting sacked and then he's like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: we'll just let anybody sack him. And then he walked
Speaker 1: away from me. And I'm interviewing him because I said, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do to, you know, ensure that
Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham doesn't get sacked sixty two times? Or what
Speaker 1: it was, Oh, we're just gonna let anybody sack him.
Speaker 1: And they walked away, and then the PR guy runs
Speaker 1: and says, hey, you know, come on back here. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I was at CNN at the time. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, got to come back as CNN they're doing
Speaker 1: a profile. And so I started with the same question
Speaker 1: again because I didn't get an answer. That's what really
Speaker 1: it was all about that you had Randall Cunningham and
Speaker 1: he was getting sacked sixty times, and he said, so, coach,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do to ensure that Randall Cunningham did, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna let him get sad. I went, oh,
Speaker 1: my gun. And then I think he realized that he
Speaker 1: had to answer it, and then he sort of did
Speaker 1: in some way shape or for him, and then I
Speaker 1: did this interview that didn't last very long. I don't
Speaker 1: think I spoke to Buddy Ryan after that. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: some of those coaches where it feels like it could
Speaker 1: be go time, and those old guys you think might
Speaker 1: not take a swing like bum Phillips and those guys
Speaker 1: in the old days, they seem like they're just one
Speaker 1: step away from hitting someone. I never worried about bum
Speaker 1: Phillips because he was just He was a character, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't I never thought that he could strike me. Buddy.
Speaker 1: Buddy could have taken a shot at me that day
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have been surprised. But he was one
Speaker 1: of those that I like, how can you go into
Speaker 1: an interview preseason not knowing I'm gonna ask you about
Speaker 1: your offensive line? And Randall Cunningham, Oh, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: let everybody sack him. Yeah, see a bunch of red
Speaker 1: faces there yelling. I think it'd be awesome if more
Speaker 1: coaches answered like that, like, Hey, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do to uh, you know, ghet Odell Beckham open, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna let him get double game in the
Speaker 1: whole game. They just throw it right back at you.
Speaker 1: I think I used the SoundBite from Buddy Ryan in
Speaker 1: the piece I might have, Oh, We're just gonna let
Speaker 1: everybody sack him. Do you remember Buddy Ryan knocked out
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator with the Oilers. I think it edited
Speaker 1: his career hit Calvin keviny Bill Ride on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: You disagreed about the run pass racer just slugged him.
Speaker 1: This NFL, Who are worried about your shirt being tucked in?
Speaker 1: He used to beat up offensive coordinator. Yeah, you've got
Speaker 1: to make sure your socks are pulled up correctly. Buddies,
Speaker 1: you know, punching pete, knocking dudes out. Yeah, you called
Speaker 1: one more drop play. That's your answer is on the ground.
Speaker 1: He definitely would have you realize that. Yes, yes, he
Speaker 1: could have. If I asked the question one more time,
Speaker 1: he probably could have. He would have gotten me. And
Speaker 1: what would you do? I mean, you could obviously take
Speaker 1: a sixty five year old buddy, Ryan, would you have
Speaker 1: punched back or you'll no, that was old guy's strength.
Speaker 1: Plus you know I probably weighed one seventy five now,
Speaker 1: and he was gonna he was gonna surprise me. He
Speaker 1: was gonna I'm holding a microphone, I've got a suit
Speaker 1: and tie on. You know, I wouldn't have expected a
Speaker 1: punch coming my way. Oh, we're just gonna let anybody
Speaker 1: shock him. Yes, you don't want to fight an old
Speaker 1: guy either. You think they're in their car hearts or
Speaker 1: their overalls and they'll swing it. They don't even have
Speaker 1: turn singles. Don't fight an old guy. Yeah yeah, buddy, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: Samuel finished with five catches ninety seven yards. He's got
Speaker 1: nine hundred seventy nine yards so far on the season,
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Speaker 1: looking ahead to this next week's schedule in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Alice in Kansas City is a big one. That'll be
Speaker 1: a four to twenty five on Fox Pittsburgh at the
Speaker 1: Chargers not sure the availability of t J. Watt Washington
Speaker 1: at Carolina, Cam Newton gone back. He re debuts in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Las Vegas is another spicy one as well.
Speaker 1: Plus you have the standalone game on Thursday night, so
Speaker 1: everybody will have an opinion on Mac Jones. It's the
Speaker 1: Patriots at Atlanta and that'll be Thursday night on Fox.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a referendum on Matt Ryan. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have one on let's see Mac Jones. Definitely, Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: the defense. Yeah, Paul, if you're a Falcons fan, this
Speaker 1: is a tough year. It's actually probably a tough five
Speaker 1: year stretch. Now you have to reminded on National TV
Speaker 1: of the last big game that the Patriots played against
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, and that's gonna be that twenty eight three
Speaker 1: thing is going to be bombarded to start the show
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. That's tough. Yeah, But these standalone games,
Speaker 1: that's when everybody has an opinion. On Friday, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have opinions. You know, it's Mac Jones. Is the best
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback? Now? Is he the best rookie quarterback we've
Speaker 1: seen since? Because he's the best rookie quarterback in this class.
Speaker 1: But that's not saying a whole lot. But mac Jones
Speaker 1: has been exactly what Bill Belichick thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be, and the same with Nick Saban. Saban said,
Speaker 1: he's very similar to Belichick, you know, a very bright guy.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that he's done exactly what
Speaker 1: Bill wants. I wanted to see him open up a
Speaker 1: little bit and just see if he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to pass the ball fifteen twenty yards downfield. It
Speaker 1: helps if you have somebody you can throw it too downfield.
Speaker 1: But the defense is really the key with the Patriots.
Speaker 1: That's a good defense, and you know, you start to
Speaker 1: look at who's gonna make the playoffs and can the
Speaker 1: Patriots put pressure on the Buffalo Bills to win the division?
Speaker 1: Who would have thought that to start the year. But
Speaker 1: it's a good team. Yeah. See, mac Jones is for real. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is for real, and this is why the
Speaker 1: Patriots drafted him. That's Jimmy, Jimmy, Thank you, Jimmy, Hey're welcome.
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky had a tweet, remember when we were told
Speaker 1: Mac Jones couldn't quarterback an explosive offense. Patriots have forty
Speaker 1: eight plays of twenty yards or more, second most in
Speaker 1: the NFL fifty one all last season. Stat of good
Speaker 1: day the day, best stat of the day, stat of
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Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy at the Boston Globes Globe has a book
Speaker 1: out on the Larry Birds Celtics, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that's in there. I was
Speaker 1: fortunate to be around the Celtics, certainly when it came
Speaker 1: to playoff time. Didn't cover them anywhere near on a
Speaker 1: daily basis like Dan did. Larry Bird had a nickname
Speaker 1: for Dan Shaughnessy, called him Scoop because he, uh, he
Speaker 1: would always get the inside information there. But we'll talk
Speaker 1: to Dan Shaughnessy about the Celtics of the mid eaties there. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's National Food Day, Fast food Day, and the Danets
Speaker 1: posted their pictures of what they would like to eat
Speaker 1: and I had to go around and guess which ones.
Speaker 1: So you had. Fritzie is a big burger king guy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like burg I like the the onion rings you
Speaker 1: can get there. I like their original chicken sandwich in particular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best. When you get the fries and a
Speaker 1: couple of onion rings. That is good living, right, Toddler,
Speaker 1: that's like Christmas Seaton is the Five Guys. Heck, yeah,
Speaker 1: McK lovin is. I put Wendy's, although I kind of
Speaker 1: want Audible to shape check. I wasn't sure if that counted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think shake Shank would be fast food. Paulie went
Speaker 1: with Culver's. I don't eat fast food. It's been like decades,
Speaker 1: but culvers is uh originated in Wisconsin. Really good ice cream,
Speaker 1: really good burgers. Yeah, I'm not a fast food guy.
Speaker 1: I remember when Burger King and McDonald's, But if you
Speaker 1: went to Wendy's, like that was a step up LA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're oh, you're gonna get a triple and you're gone, Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Wendy's a frosty, frosty chilly. I haven't been.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in a long time, like Arby's or Sonic.
Speaker 1: I've gone in and out Burger when I go to La,
Speaker 1: I've done that. Why oh, don't don't yes to a
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