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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, Do You Around the NFL podcast? Can Beat

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Speaker 1: your ass in tech Mobile. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansus and I am joined by a room filled with heroes.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? What's up? Hey? Hell? Remember that meet up

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Speaker 1: with with the Around the NFL listeners? Oh delightful time.

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Speaker 1: One of the surprising things from that was people really

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Speaker 1: there's there's stuff that's good. We're getting in debate. We

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Speaker 1: always knew it which kind of podcast? Greg, like, I

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Speaker 1: fine and that's okay. Greg doesn't mean you can't like both.

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Speaker 1: It's like you love both your children, you just love

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Speaker 1: one more, all right? Why did you need to go down? That?

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Speaker 1: Is that true of you? Family situation? Did you guys?

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Speaker 1: how um former Vermont Senator Dean Richard Howard Dean excuse me,

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Speaker 1: that's never been the most important thing, finished his speech,

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Speaker 1: mommy and daddy, you're fighting. Anyway, Let's get Devin Hester

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Speaker 1: Schneider is through, so I think that is a nod

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Speaker 1: probably Carol's choice to his age. Let's let's see where

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Speaker 1: I'm at in a in a few years. I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to to sign on. Usually those two guys have

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Speaker 1: had the exact same contracts of the same years, tied

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Speaker 1: at the hip. You know, he's probably year might be

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Speaker 1: getting to the age, whereas the year to year. At

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Speaker 1: some point he consider walking away. It feels like a

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Speaker 1: total no brainer move. But there were whispers last year

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Speaker 1: that Carol was that there was chatter that Carol could

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Speaker 1: go and Tom Cable could take over as like a

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Speaker 1: continuity plan. And Tom Cable has been very vocal about

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Speaker 1: wanting to be a head coach again. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the quietly one of the best assistants in the league.

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Speaker 1: This might throw that in the blender. Well, it does.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Riverboat Ron's football epiphany. This is another one.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll had is at USC much later in his life,

439
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: in his fifties, and he I think he's the most

440
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Speaker 1: psychologically and philosophically agile coach in the NFL. He always

441
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Speaker 1: knows how to cater to his players. They attract free agents.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it's famously really hard for

443
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Speaker 1: NFL coaches to get into the Hall of Fame. I

444
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: don't know if guys like Mike Holmgren and Mike Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: who were really good for a long time are getting in.

446
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Speaker 1: I kind of think Pete Carroll will get it. Could

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Speaker 1: have used this second could have used this second title,

448
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Speaker 1: and maybe he'll still get one because you're what they've done,

449
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Speaker 1: I think is the most impressive accomplishment by any coaching

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Speaker 1: staff of the last ten years, you know, including the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: because they they took it from the ground up, They

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Speaker 1: started their entire system, they had a vision, they did it.

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Speaker 1: I think what's different about Carol and Belichick shares this too,

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Speaker 1: is they're just better at developing. You can give them

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Speaker 1: players with a certain sort of traits and they are

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Speaker 1: going to coach them to be better. So it's not

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Speaker 1: about the talent they get. They're gonna make these players better. Uh. Finally,

458
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Speaker 1: in the news, a little pup round up, guys. That's

459
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Speaker 1: always fun, and we'll start with Jordy Nelson, the Packers

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Speaker 1: wide receiver who missed all of last season with a

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Speaker 1: torn a c L And you know, we were told

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Speaker 1: and looking great and the spring, but moved to the

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Speaker 1: pup list with a what's described as some type of

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Speaker 1: tendonitis and the other new the opposite new that might

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Speaker 1: have been caused by over exertion. Uh, why you're a

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Speaker 1: smart man? Should Packers fans be worried about this? I'm

467
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Speaker 1: so far. Yes, I've had tendonitis. It's very, very painful,

468
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Speaker 1: makes it hard to run. I think you have to

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Speaker 1: be in a wait and see mode if you're a

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Speaker 1: Packers fan. It's a reminder he's thirty one years old

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Speaker 1: that you can't just pencil him in to be the

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Speaker 1: exact same Jordy Nelson that he was when he was

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Speaker 1: last you know, to major surgeries often cause injuries, lead

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Speaker 1: to injuries to other parts of the body. Bellow Victor

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Speaker 1: Cruz m hmm. Flo. Also h weird that Victor Cruz

476
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Speaker 1: just walked in the studio like right there, Hey minute,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Uh, Josh, Gordon's on the n f I list.

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Speaker 1: That's another that's another reminder that everyone is excited for

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Speaker 1: Gordon to be back. He's got to get into football

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Speaker 1: shape now he's out for a couple of weeks. He

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Speaker 1: needs that practice time. Hasn't looked at a playbook in

482
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Speaker 1: like three years, so you know, there's a lot. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to do. If you're Josh Gordon, did we

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Speaker 1: do over under Josh Gordon? We did games played. I

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Speaker 1: feel like to leave. You mentioned to leave, By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's a sneaky, big story. No one's really mentioned the

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Speaker 1: fact that no one has any idea when he can

488
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Speaker 1: be healthy enough to play, that this was a serious

489
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Speaker 1: physical problem. Everyone just kind of wondering, well, is he

490
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Speaker 1: gonna get suspended or arrested again? But we don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be healthy enough to play. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, let's before

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Speaker 1: we go move on and talk about some hot butts,

494
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Speaker 1: um Brandon, let's unpack this Little Debbie situation alright now.

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Speaker 1: If you and following along on Twitter, um Mark is

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Speaker 1: a big fan of the independent rapper Little Debbie, who's

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Speaker 1: coming to Los Angeles on Thursday night playing at the Troubadour,

498
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: very intimate setting, and um a lot of people. By

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Speaker 1: the way, why do you like Little Debbie? Because not

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Speaker 1: a lot of people know about it. Let's start there

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Speaker 1: at the mention you don't really listen to hip hop

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Speaker 1: at all. Other than I don't. She just is something

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Speaker 1: about her overall makeup, uh and approach to life and

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00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: viewpoint that has intrigued me of late. Okay, this was

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Speaker 1: the official song of our trip to Big Bear in

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen iconic trip to Big Bear and and yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Mark was under the impression that he would not be

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Speaker 1: able to attend the Troubadoor show of Little Debbie. He

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Speaker 1: was crest fallen. Chris Wesley actually put it out on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: crest fallen at Mark Seessler, NFL just found out he

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Speaker 1: won't be able to attend at Little Debbie at the

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Speaker 1: Troubadoor Thursday, Little Debbie plugged in replies He's missing out

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Speaker 1: on some sweet ass she applied. Within five minutes now

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Speaker 1: the most the least surprise defining ever, Mark magically found

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Speaker 1: a way to get to the concert after this tweet,

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Speaker 1: Well hold on all right that you know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like Greg right now when people are reading tweets he

518
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Speaker 1: never sent in text but no, except this is based

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Speaker 1: in complete. I was every day we've been around. I

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Speaker 1: was in deep negotiations, you know, about getting there, and

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Speaker 1: you know I've one of the most understanding wives on

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Speaker 1: the planet and she's very She allowed me to shift

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Speaker 1: plans around UH to make this happen, and so that's

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Speaker 1: where we thought the story and Mark want to get

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Speaker 1: the ticket. We're gonna find out, but Mark has been

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Speaker 1: in contact with Little Debbie since this. We've since found out,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I want to bring in Uh Frags.

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Speaker 1: Alex Rogola are downstairs, UH producer for NFL network. What's up, Frags?

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Speaker 1: And you may know Frags from her most famous drop.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting a lot of freshure on the Irish from

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Speaker 1: here exactly. Frank's, how's it like? First of all? Behind

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Speaker 1: the glass watching the show in action? What's it like

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00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: for you? I feel like an insider. I just saw

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Speaker 1: Greg dance to hip hop. Yeah, you put Little Debbie on?

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Speaker 1: How can you not? So if you could help me

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Speaker 1: out with a little exercise here, Frank's. I was hoping

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna read Mark's tweets to Little Debbie and

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Speaker 1: then you could respond as Little Debbie. Okay, here we

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Speaker 1: go Mark's tweet today or yesterday t minus one day,

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Speaker 1: twelve hours and twenty one minutes before Little Debbie devastates

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Speaker 1: West Hollywood. Little Little Debbie responds, I hope that was

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Speaker 1: meant in a good way. There's two little hearts also,

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Speaker 1: can't we do that? And then I was spinning. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to do next, all right, and then

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the end. Mark's reply to Little Debbie and

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Speaker 1: you could follow it at L number one, L Debbie,

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Speaker 1: Mark does this show like his connection to the zeitgeis

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Speaker 1: one hundred with three underlines that emoticon and then a

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Speaker 1: purple unicorn and what does that mean before we throw

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Speaker 1: it back? I used that emoji all the time throughout

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Speaker 1: too many friends. But I actually went to David Eally

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Speaker 1: to confirm that the Hunt one hundred would be responding

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Speaker 1: in a positive way. I didn't want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: deepen the the rift. I like the Ely is like

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Speaker 1: your pop culture wizard, and and the unicorn represents what

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Speaker 1: unsure I think, just mystical and feel like, if you

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Speaker 1: want to be cool, you know, and find out what

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Speaker 1: what the kids are talking about, go to Fracts, don't

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Speaker 1: go to Eally. Well this was at six, alright, so

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Speaker 1: one hundred triple or double under underline, purple unicorn, and

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Speaker 1: Little Debbie responds, that's so me. See you Thursday, whoa,

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Speaker 1: hey U. We're starting to put together you know, we're

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Speaker 1: putting together a few things. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: another question. Will will Simone be going with you to

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Speaker 1: this concert? No? Well, I explained to her that I

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Speaker 1: did not think that she would enjoy it. Necessarily, we

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Speaker 1: are going to go to a different concert next month,

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Speaker 1: cold play together, Frags. Your thoughts about the exchange in general?

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Speaker 1: I think it was well played. Mark. I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: she couldn't see you because you're a little red right now.

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Speaker 1: So there's some across much cooler on the internet, like,

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Speaker 1: well you're probably you're here. There's some natural chemistry between

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Speaker 1: Mark and little Debbie. When you say I think so,

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Speaker 1: I think so as someone who's spoken for her for

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Speaker 1: all of twenty seconds, I think, as far as I

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Speaker 1: can see, we have vastly different worldviews. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you never know. Fracs, thank you very much. I know

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Speaker 1: it's very busy downstairs as training camp picks off, but

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Speaker 1: Frags is one of our great um you know, voice

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Speaker 1: correspondence anything for a t N. Can we get a

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Speaker 1: live la Robbiol mcnifico. Yeah, it's very practice is busy.

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Speaker 1: This is their super inside training camp. Live every day

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Speaker 1: for the next two weeks on NFL networking up in

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Speaker 1: the studio was super and she and Franks has not

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Speaker 1: seen a dime from us, by the way, well sponsored,

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Speaker 1: we don't have any times. Yeah, all right, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, Frags and uh Mark, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: good sport as always. Enjoyed it and have fun. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can give us a report on how

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Speaker 1: it goes. No, I will not share any details with you.

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00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some hot butts. This is what

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Speaker 1: it is on a gregscuse, this is uncomfortable. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a hot think grown man whimpering alright, So the point

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Speaker 1: I could have like PTSD after listening today, The point

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Speaker 1: of this game, this exercise is to connect that that

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Speaker 1: burning moaning man's but with a face um attached it basically,

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Speaker 1: And so let's go around the horn. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what you should tell that whimpering man. But they can

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Speaker 1: fire you, but they can't eat you. Yeah, who said that?

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Speaker 1: Chuck pegana great line and it saved his job. I

601
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Speaker 1: think he manned up. He had no fear. Let me,

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Speaker 1: I'll get it started because I know this one is on.

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Speaker 1: Everybody kind of is on the same page as I'm

604
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Speaker 1: not breaking ground, but I think it's important to throw

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00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: him out there. Rex Ryan's but is searing. As we

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Speaker 1: opened the twenty sixteen season, I heard from a very

607
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Speaker 1: good source, UM at the Super Bowl, a boozy night

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Speaker 1: at the Hotel bar, that Rex Ryan was pretty much done,

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Speaker 1: that it was all over for Rex last season, that

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Speaker 1: they were ready to do a one and done with Rex,

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Speaker 1: and he basically wiggled out of that survived. UM. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's you know, how they they ended

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Speaker 1: the season with a win over the Jets, or whether

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00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: there was a you know, come to Jesus meeting, but

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00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: Rex was able to get that second year. UM. But

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Speaker 1: as as we've talked about on this podcast, it's hard

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Speaker 1: for me anyway to imagine them now leveraging that. I

618
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: think the defense will be better, but I think they

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Speaker 1: will still be a team that's kind of hovering around

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Speaker 1: five hundred, and I don't think that's gonna be good enough.

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Speaker 1: I think that they expected more. So I think Rex

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Speaker 1: entering the season, I'm not predicting. We shouldn't predict whether

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Speaker 1: the season is not gonna work out. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that actually, but I just want to say he

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Speaker 1: has a ton of pressure on him to make this

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Speaker 1: season count because he's not coming back off another eight

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Speaker 1: and eight. Well, the difference between him and other coaches

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Speaker 1: we might talk about is that the Rex Ryan experience

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Speaker 1: only creates more of that pressure. I mean, there's too

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Speaker 1: many Rex moments that I think you have to say,

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Speaker 1: unless he's taking you to the playoffs, is the rest

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Speaker 1: of the Rex Ryan you know, caravan worth it. I

633
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Speaker 1: think they can be a playoff team. They certainly have

634
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: potential the potential to do that, but you always worry

635
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: about teams like the Bills. The Browns are another one

636
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: which keep rotating coaches and gms and and things aren't

637
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: aligned and in this case owners too. So the owner,

638
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: the new owners didn't hire Um, the GM who is

639
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: in charge of hiring the coach who hired Rex. And

640
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: yes they gave him an extension too, but it didn't

641
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily a long one. So when that's the case,

642
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: it's just unstability and they might look for their own guys.

643
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the implosion factor is pretty high in Buffalo.

644
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they you're right there ceiling his playoffs, but

645
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: their floor is worst record in the a f C.

646
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: They have an in house guy. Wow, I don't think

647
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: a lot could go wrong. Well, it could be if

648
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: everything just milks. You have the zoo factor with with Rex,

649
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: the big top circus factor two with him, where things

650
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: could just fall apart. I'm gonna give Rex the respect

651
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: that I think he'll turn that. I think the defense

652
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: is going to be better. I still think he's a

653
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: good defensive coach and there's enough talent there that they

654
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: should be well. There was a revolt last season. I

655
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: mean there can be nothing you know, getting close to that.

656
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: It has to be full buying and one thing you

657
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: gotta watch out here to Division two. By the way,

658
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: Like I said that, I think the rope is short.

659
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: They don't have a great schedule. To open the season

660
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: at Ravens that's not gonna be an easy game for them,

661
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: Home to Jets that's always going to be a close battle,

662
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Home to Cardinals will be tough, and then at Patriots

663
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: that's the last game without Tom Brady for New England.

664
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: But I'm I still imagine that they're gonna be a

665
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: tough team to beat. And if you get yeah, if

666
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you're one in three or god for a bid oh

667
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: and four. Then you're talking who else is on that

668
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: staff that could come in sometime in November if they

669
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: really decide they need to make a change. All right, Mark,

670
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you're up. I'm gonna go Mike McCoy with the Chargers.

671
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, really Mike McCoy to nine and seven seasons

672
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: to start his career in San Diego and are very

673
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: disturbing soundclip. Uh but last year four and twelve and

674
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: you're at the end of the Philip Rivers, you know,

675
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: career arc. Are we going to play this throughout the

676
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: entire ste We could just do a little like a

677
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: touch Hey, football's back, guys, here's a moaning man and

678
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: talk about people losing their jobs. Like Greg's getting all

679
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: touchy again. He's like, Oh no, that's too that's too fun.

680
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Let's keep it more football. Greg's worried about people losing

681
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: their jobs. They's anchoring at all. I I McCoy is

682
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: the complete opposite of Rex Ryan in terms of he's

683
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: never he's never creating personality issues with the problem. But

684
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: I think that that team, the Charges, can make the

685
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: playoffs this season, and I don't think it would surprise

686
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: anyone in this room. There's a lot to like they've

687
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: got talent and he cannot deliver another season like last year.

688
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: It would be his fourth year in the NFL, and

689
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: I think that's if you're a team that is looking

690
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: for that, If that big coach becomes available, maybe San

691
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Diego makes a move. I like this Chargers team. They

692
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: do have the Los Angeles fact. They're hanging over their heads.

693
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of fallen off of the front page there,

694
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: but it's like the plot from Major League that could

695
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: be a rallying cry. Wasn't one thing left. It wasn't

696
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: last year for any of those teams. When the whole

697
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: thing and that we did, we did Tom Rivers is

698
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: Rivers is the a F. C. Romo? How great a

699
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: super Bowl would that be? Rivers? You love? I love

700
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Romo too, But you're the last this week, I feel

701
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: like you've really been especially I start to see the

702
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: end of the line here. I'm a little worried with

703
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the back injury that how long how long is he

704
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: going to be around? He's got ultra talented offense. I

705
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: mean we're at that period two where we've had back

706
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: to back aging quarterbacks win super Bowls and so we're

707
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna get another Big Ben when we're gonna get another

708
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Philip one, Philip Rivers one West your turn, Jim Caldwell

709
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: in Detroit, I think, oh yeah, I know Lions fans

710
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: think they have it. They got a real banger of

711
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: a team up there in Detroit this year. But let

712
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: me tell you what I see. An offensive line that

713
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: was among the league's worst last year and might or

714
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: may not be better. Generally, first round starters at at

715
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: left tackle do not do that well. Uh, wide receiver

716
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: corps where you've got three fringy number two types masquerading

717
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: his number one, you'd suddenly taken shots at Golden Tate,

718
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: one of your face number one receiver. He's he's a

719
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: good receiver. What if 're not? You're not. You're not

720
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: worried about gold You're You're pumped that you have Golden

721
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Tate on your team. And if the end the top

722
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: twenty receivers in the league, absolutely so that's the number

723
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: one receiver. You have to command double teams. That type

724
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: of you command and beat double teams. You come up

725
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: with the ball and third downs and you're a weapon

726
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: in the red zone. But how many how many of

727
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: those are there? Like ten big deal, twenty other teams

728
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: they'll have, including the two best teams in the league,

729
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the Seahawks. That'd be great if they

730
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: had everything else working for them on offense, but they have.

731
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: Anyone who tells you they know who Matt Stafford is

732
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback as a liar, a bold faced liar. Nobody

733
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: knows who this guy is. He he is outside of

734
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: Sam brand for the most inconsistent quarterback and the biggest

735
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: enigma in the NFL. That is who he is. That's

736
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But we don't know who that is.

737
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: The running back is coming off shoulder surgery. I don't

738
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: see anything to like on offense really. In defense, you've

739
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: got some question marks, and you've got Ziggy Anza, Darius Slay,

740
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: DeAndre Levy, a good player at all three levels, and

741
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: then a bunch of question marks behind this. To be

742
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: here this season, I think you're looking at a roster

743
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: that has very few difference makers. And even if you were,

744
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a couple more above average starters,

745
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: but not many above everything orders. But then you're saying

746
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: that the front office is going to use Calde's the

747
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: scapegoat with this. You're saying there's not a lot there.

748
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: Then the if the team understands that, then maybe the

749
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: bar isn't that high and he doesn't have to win

750
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: too many games. But I don't think that's the way

751
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: it works. You have to win game. What's the same

752
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: thing with the new management. You got Bob Quinn there,

753
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: he might not he kept called Well, it kind of

754
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: reminds me this happens a lot where you keep the

755
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: guy for one year and then you then you want

756
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: your own guy. Greg. I'm gonna go with Gus Bradley.

757
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: I think it's just obvious that the Jaguars have essentially

758
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: said in a statement and to end last season that

759
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: they need to be a winning team, that they need

760
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: to be an eight nine win team. They need to

761
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: see progress, period. And I think all of the money

762
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: that they've spent, all the excitement, all the talent that

763
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: they have have understandably raised expectations. So he's just he

764
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: he knows it. Of all these coaches, he he must

765
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: know it as much as anyone that he's got to

766
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: win this year. This is his year. Well, they're ill conceived.

767
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: Dalliance with Greg Hardy tells you the exact same thing

768
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: that there's the pressures on to win. Now, Well, when

769
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: the GM said that we're looking at these players and

770
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: this these kind of moves because there's no more excuses,

771
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: there's no more time. And I think they I think

772
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a fun team to watch. I'm excited

773
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: And to their credit, I think they've had this plan

774
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: all along. We heard from Caldwell and the cons back

775
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, two thousand and thirteen, they

776
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: were not patient with Mike Malarky. Once they made that change,

777
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: they said, we are going to be patient. We are

778
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: going to give them X amount of years. We're not

779
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: gonna worry till they're in their third, third, fourth year.

780
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Here we are now we've reached that. But let say

781
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: they go eight and eight. But it's the kind of

782
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: eight and eight season where you really by the end

783
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: of the year see things everything. Jelly, I think it'd

784
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, I think that'd be fine. Show progress.

785
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: I'll throughout another name, Jason Garrett, and I know that

786
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: he he is and again the product of the GM

787
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: being the owner with Jerry Jones, and he is a

788
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: big fan of Jason Garrett. But after last year being

789
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: a down year. And if you look at Garrett's been

790
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: there forever, Now, how long has he been the coach there?

791
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: We're going back five and a half. That's just a guess.

792
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: They talk about Wade Phillips five and a half years ago,

793
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: it sounds about right. Maybe this is his fifth full season.

794
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that at a certain point

795
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: even Jerry Jones has had endless confidence and Jason Garrett

796
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: is gonna need results. Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones is

797
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: not getting any younger. He believes, you know, Jerry Jones

798
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: believes this team is a playoff worthy team ahead six

799
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: and a half, six and a half and wow, and

800
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: this team, if they do not make the playoffs, that

801
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: will be He's only gone to the playoffs once, right

802
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: that they went twelve and four two years ago, got

803
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: bounced out in the playoffs. I think if they don't

804
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year, barring another Romo injury, which

805
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: you can't rule out, that you know, blows up the

806
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: whole season. I think if they have a healthy compliment

807
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: of players and they don't uh and they underperform, I

808
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: think Garrett finally pays the bill. A couple of things

809
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: that I think make that tough. I think if if

810
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Sean Payton had found himself out of work, that would

811
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: have put Garrett into a tough spot. There's clearly love

812
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: for Sean Payton from Jerry Jones. But Jerry Jones has

813
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: talked multiple times about the fact that they put twenty

814
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: years of work into Garrett, that he going back to

815
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: when he was Troy Aikman's backup, that the relationship there

816
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: is very strong, and he's already got three defensive players

817
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: out for a big chunk of the season. He's got

818
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: a built an excuse. And yeah, I agree, they can't

819
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: just keep going seven and nine and eight and eight

820
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: or what they did last year. But Garrett's one. I

821
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: think it's the around built an excuse. But a division

822
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: everyone knows is up for the taking, and and before

823
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: these suspensions, I think they would have been the contents

824
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: pick to win this division, and I still expect plenty

825
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: of people will be picking them. Doesn't someone though, if

826
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: you're if you're the Cowboys, there needs to become a

827
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: name that that is available at a certain time that

828
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: makes that's going to be, you know, is going to

829
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: be better than Jason Garrett. Maybe they give John Gruden

830
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: all the money in the world. Something I think if

831
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you're Jerry Jones, it can't be for like a low

832
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: octane name. It's gonna have to be something that everyone says,

833
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: this makes sense, bring back Jan Gailey. That's not what

834
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: we're referring to. I mean, John Gruden has been in

835
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: the league and what six seven or eight years now.

836
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: While he might not be able to coach anymore, he

837
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: seems to be happy to where he is. But you

838
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: never know anybody else. Have one because I'll throw one

839
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: more out there. Go for it. Now. This might be

840
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: dismissed out of him in some circles, But is Marvin

841
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Lewis facing any pressure now in the year forty seven

842
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: as Bengals coach coming off an absolute crushing playoff loss,

843
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: the fifth year in row that they've lost in the

844
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: first round and where he didn't have a good grip

845
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Speaker 1: on the team. The way it ended was ugly. Could

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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, if they have a down year in a

847
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: very good division, finally bite the bullet in Cincinnati? Wes

848
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: that would like that? That would be among the most

849
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: surprising things that would happen in in the NFL since

850
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I've been following it. If that happened, here are the

851
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Speaker 1: coaches who have more jobs. Man a little bit hyperbly there,

852
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, maybe Bruce Arians,

853
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: maybe Ron Rivera. That's it. That's the list. Marvin Lewis

854
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: is one of the guys running that front office right now.

855
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: They have a collective there, but Marvin Lewis and his

856
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: coaching staff make most of the personnel decisions. And I

857
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: think if you look back at history is instructive here.

858
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: When you let Dave Shula hang on for three or

859
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: four extra years of going oh and eight to start

860
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: every year, and Bruce Coslate and Dick lebo oh go

861
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Speaker 1: oh and eight, no and no and eight, it's because

862
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: Mike Brown is among the most loyal people in the

863
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: NFL and doesn't like throwing good money after bad, doesn't

864
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Speaker 1: like change, doesn't like any of that. I think Marvin

865
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Lewis is there for as long as he wants to.

866
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the team would have to absolutely crumble this season,

867
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Speaker 1: beyond beyond anyway, it would have to be on Marvin

868
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Speaker 1: Louis's hands that it's bad timing. If they're going to

869
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: replace them, they let Mike Zimmer and Hugh Jackson walk

870
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: out the door, and Jake Uten as well. The loyalty

871
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: is obviously there. But the bottom line of this and

872
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: it's the results oriented business. If they do not either

873
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs or not win a playoff game.

874
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis and I know Sally Wilcox said that he

875
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: raised the Titanic, that would be fourteen straight years without

876
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: a playoff doesn't matter, and that at certain points someone

877
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: has to open their eyes and be like, it matters

878
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: to do we need to change things up here. It

879
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: matters to fans and onlookers. It doesn't matter to Mike

880
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: Brown well, and but I think he's he's been proven right.

881
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: He almost fired Marvin was five years ago before Marvin

882
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Lewis had a power play essentially, and he's been proven

883
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: right because they've gotten better since then. It's a great roster.

884
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I think the best chance they have to win a

885
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: super Bowl has been to keep Marvin Lewis. But I

886
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy Dan that you put this

887
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: on the list, because I agree with you. If they

888
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, I think Mike Brown, he he

889
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: was quoted this week, I'd like to hold the Lombardi Trophy.

890
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how many chances I have left that

891
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: is that is a man. I think that that that

892
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: is feeling the pressure of time and staying with this group,

893
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: with this team. I want to see it. You could

894
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: see Marvin Lewis potentially retiring, Yes, you would see that

895
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: before he has fired. By the way, I see you,

896
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: Mike Malarkey. We didn't talk about you. That has got

897
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: to be a shock that he did not get your job.

898
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: But that is an uncertain ownership situation. They're still figuring

899
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: out what's going on in that building. This might have

900
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: just been a placeholder situation. You gotta show something, Mikey.

901
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: I hope he does well. I'm just saying I don't

902
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: want to not mention him. Then I want think. Oh

903
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: the A ten guys think Mike mclarkey is healthy as

904
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: an ox and his butt's not hot because that butt

905
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: is warming up. Actually, I got some tape of Mike mlarkey.

906
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: Listen up, listen this This is Mike mclarkey, head coach

907
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Nights. That's him, just like Alden Smith.

908
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: You cannot confuse it. That was Aldon Smith on his

909
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: his periscope. This is Mike Mlarkey's voice. There's there's some

910
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: people that have walked into our podcast to do that.

911
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: We're not familiar with it. I'm just wondering what they

912
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: are thinking right now if they can hear what's Roger Goodell,

913
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: but they're like, what is happening in there? Mike Mlarkey

914
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: about six to fifty and with pound Dan Hanson. He's

915
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: one of those coaches that look, he keeps him up

916
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: in shape. Now, my butts hot, he's gonna go exotic

917
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: smash mouth on Dan's face. Uh, fair enough, fair enough.

918
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Speaker 1: That's it for to days. Additionally, around the NFL podcast,

919
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: we will be back on Thursday. Yes, three shows this week.

920
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: We're back. We're in the full swing. Uh so make

921
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Speaker 1: sure uh you check us out. Irishman, Um, let's get

922
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Speaker 1: going until Thursday. This is Dan Hanson signing off for

923
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Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss and the Irishman

924
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: behind the Glass. Till Thursday. You just Tola bending into

925
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: the city with the goat on my key, Colly rally

926
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Speaker 1: in this scrape with the boend and me stir a

927
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: need is too consistantly. You ain't bad, just Togola Molly

928
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: into this city with the goat on my key. Collie

929
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: rally in this scrape with the boend and met Holly

930
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: in the scrape with the roll up, and they keep

931
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Speaker 1: it on the door. I'm trying to stay on the

932
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Speaker 1: and that. But everybody know me, man. They take in

933
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: my picture then with me just to roll up my

934
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: swish sh They know me from the bait all the

935
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Speaker 1: way to l A, from telegraph to fair facts. They

936
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Speaker 1: know my name. I'm the same one they get this

937
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: wig firm. I've always had swag while they never had them.

938
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Speaker 1: Bending bending through the city with the goat on my teeth.

939
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Speaker 1: Fly y'all, just to roll on my way. You guys ready,

940
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think we are broy by the guy

941
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Speaker 1: at dinner first. Oh, I'm actually old four sandwiches here,

942
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: so oh, come back. That's a good point.