Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D.
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Speaker 2: Good, Actively Black, Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: I love the activity.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 1: That's how things.
Speaker 4: And I can't even say anything because you put me
Speaker 4: on and you was telling me you need.
Speaker 1: To be and I was like, Okay, I got to
Speaker 1: get that's right. I love actively black. That's our people.
Speaker 4: So the State of the People Power Tour is in progress.
Speaker 4: And you know, for people who don't know, the State
Speaker 4: of the People Power Tour is an effort that came
Speaker 4: out of the State of the People twenty four hour
Speaker 4: marathon that ran at the same time that Donald Trump
Speaker 4: was intending to do his what he did his State
Speaker 4: of the Union address. We said, they're gonna be lying
Speaker 4: and fear mongering and hate throwing. It's so funny because
Speaker 4: anyway else say they said, that's what we said. That's
Speaker 4: what they're gonna be doing over here. We are going
Speaker 4: to be organizing, educating, in forming our people and you know,
Speaker 4: coming together in community. And I just really have to
Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to the entire State of
Speaker 4: the People family because it is certainly a labor of love.
Speaker 4: A lot of people are involved and working twenty four
Speaker 4: hours a day under the guidance of our drill Sergeant Captain,
Speaker 4: which is Angela Rye, who has been keeping us going
Speaker 4: from day to day. Angela absolutely we have to have
Speaker 4: her on to talk about, you know what we have
Speaker 4: been able to accomplish as a team, and she's really
Speaker 4: really committed to keeping us on tasks, making sure it
Speaker 4: doesn't fall apart that people don't be like, oh, I'm busy,
Speaker 4: I got this going on. You know how we do
Speaker 4: it always takes somebody to drive the mission, and she
Speaker 4: definitely is taken on that role. And I know how
Speaker 4: hard it is because as you know, I often am
Speaker 4: in that role and you know, it gets to be
Speaker 4: really difficult.
Speaker 1: But the State of the People.
Speaker 4: Power Tour is now a tour across the country that
Speaker 4: really is designed to examine our power right which we
Speaker 4: know we have people locally have been doing work for
Speaker 4: a law.
Speaker 1: They've never been able to depend on systems.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who's in office, Democrats, Republicans, whoever. It
Speaker 4: is maybe in their local town, it might be an
Speaker 4: independent they still have to have systems in place to
Speaker 4: ensure that the Black community specifically and of course other
Speaker 4: vulnerable populations. But this is about black folks that they
Speaker 4: can survive sustainability. And we have never ever been able
Speaker 4: to rely on the government to do everything that's necessary
Speaker 4: on a hyper hyper hyper local level.
Speaker 1: For our communities.
Speaker 4: Now you have some people who get in charge and
Speaker 4: they make things worse, and some people who marginally or
Speaker 4: incrementally make things better or at least they don't do
Speaker 4: much harm to our communities. And that's kind of where
Speaker 4: we find ourselves. And I respect that there are people
Speaker 4: who are just tired of participating in that cycle. So
Speaker 4: the State of the People Power Tour is not about
Speaker 4: who you're voting for. It isn't about that. Now for
Speaker 4: some people locally, it is for them because they have
Speaker 4: people that they got, you know, running for office, and
Speaker 4: you know, people who they believe are better for their communities.
Speaker 1: And that's fine.
Speaker 4: We're not in any way in charge of at This
Speaker 4: tour is not endorsing any particular candidates.
Speaker 1: This tour is not about that. It is really about.
Speaker 4: Building power and being in community with our people traveling
Speaker 4: the country, meeting folks who have solutions, because again, these
Speaker 4: people have been doing this work. They're like, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: we know this is pretty terrible everything that's happened in
Speaker 4: this country. But over here we have farmers' market, so
Speaker 4: we know how to feed one another. We have jobs
Speaker 4: that we've created, community senses, anti violence programs, ways to
Speaker 4: govern our own communities. You know, we do all that
Speaker 4: over here. So we going around the country finding our people.
Speaker 4: Some of them we know, others we're meeting in this
Speaker 4: process uplift their work. We have these big platforms million here, million,
Speaker 4: this one a million people, that one a million people.
Speaker 4: All these different organizations have so many people, so building
Speaker 4: power is important again being in a community. And then
Speaker 4: you have people mice who are seriously afraid they may
Speaker 4: have been impacted or they're in a situation. Maybe they're
Speaker 4: in a job because black folks are in jobs where
Speaker 4: they're the diversity, equity and inclusion rollbacks are impacting them,
Speaker 4: so they've either lost their jobs. It's a lot of
Speaker 4: black folks that may not be talking about it, but
Speaker 4: they might not be talking about it publicly, but they're
Speaker 4: certainly calling us behind the scenes, saying they're threatening us,
Speaker 4: they're changing everything. They take out black, take out specific
Speaker 4: language that's for our communities.
Speaker 1: You know, these things are happening.
Speaker 4: You got people who work for the federal government that
Speaker 4: are being terminated.
Speaker 1: You got folks who are feeling it and they know.
Speaker 4: And a lot of times, because of the lawsuits, they're
Speaker 4: always telling you don't talk too much about it because
Speaker 4: it's not much you can say when they're fighting to
Speaker 4: get you reinstated, to get the federal workers back.
Speaker 1: So, but there are a lot of people who are afraid.
Speaker 4: There's some people none of that's happened to They just
Speaker 4: sitting back watching and they're saying, what in the hell
Speaker 4: is going on?
Speaker 1: I'm afraid.
Speaker 4: I'm scared, and we don't want our people to be
Speaker 4: out there feeling like the movement has somehow gone, you know,
Speaker 4: black or whatever.
Speaker 1: Dark dark is a better way to describe it.
Speaker 4: No, we're still active, we're still organizing, we're still meeting,
Speaker 4: we're still strategizing, and I think I love this.
Speaker 1: Angela says that this tour is a love.
Speaker 4: Letter to black people that were still here and we're
Speaker 4: with you, and you are with us, and we're in
Speaker 4: this together. And when I think about the people who
Speaker 4: have been major players, I mean, there's so many people.
Speaker 4: I do not even want to get in trouble by
Speaker 4: naming the folks, but I do suggest that people go
Speaker 4: to STATEOFTHEPPL dot com, that state OFTTHEPPL dot com where
Speaker 4: you can learn more about those folks who are engaged,
Speaker 4: people who are organizing. And you know, many of you
Speaker 4: have already noticed that there is a meme where you
Speaker 4: see more and more black people saying I'm in, I'm in,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna participate somehow in this tour. And so it's
Speaker 4: ten cities, which is the initial part of the tour.
Speaker 4: There's to be more to be done afterwards everywhere we've
Speaker 4: already kicked off in Atlanta, also North Carolina and moving
Speaker 4: forward to New Orleans, to Birmingham, Alabama, to California, Alta,
Speaker 4: Dina specifically going to Detroit, Michigan, and you know, doing
Speaker 4: some impactful work. And I know they have more places,
Speaker 4: but again, go do the research, check it out, find
Speaker 4: out where you can come. Newark, New Jersey, Louisville, Kentucky,
Speaker 4: which our organization Until Freedom is really engaged in those
Speaker 4: two cities and a lot of people, people with all
Speaker 4: different skills and backgrounds. That's what I love on one
Speaker 4: thing about trauma. When your community or when we get
Speaker 4: hit with trauma, the one thing we will do is
Speaker 4: figure out how to come together. And what I love
Speaker 4: about the State of the People Power Tour is that
Speaker 4: you have people working together who are like blona fide grass.
Speaker 1: Roots, down to the ground activists.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the ones that you see them and
Speaker 4: they you will never see them in a room with
Speaker 4: other people. But then you also have folks who are
Speaker 4: in the you know, the the more considered to be
Speaker 4: let's be clear, you know, talented tenth whatever that means.
Speaker 4: I don't I take that back, that's not even a thing.
Speaker 4: But people who may see themselves to.
Speaker 1: Be very elite and and and and.
Speaker 4: Their work, the black bougeoisie, I don't know, they don't
Speaker 4: really like well.
Speaker 2: They don't like being quoted.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying the grassroots will normally considered the big
Speaker 3: wazi or the black BOUGEOISI. I mean, it's pretty much
Speaker 3: understanding that we need each other.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We're at a time in history where all people black,
Speaker 3: old people in marginalized communities really realize.
Speaker 1: How all people realize.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying the majority people realize the times
Speaker 3: we're in, you know, and if you, if you've experienced,
Speaker 3: see what's happening is this those who have experienced the
Speaker 3: luxuries of you know, being able to benefit from the
Speaker 3: accommodations made in our constitution and being able to benefit
Speaker 3: off d and be able to go to school based
Speaker 3: of dr and be able to get jobs based off
Speaker 3: those situations, not because they weren't smart enough, because they
Speaker 3: didn't have opportunities, and opportunities were provided for them. And
Speaker 3: now they're able to create generational wealth or were able
Speaker 3: to create general and seeing those things diminish and just disappear,
Speaker 3: and those who've never had that are now realizing that
Speaker 3: they're on the same exact wavelength. And now they have
Speaker 3: to come together, and we have to come together and
Speaker 3: create what the agenda for Black America is and be
Speaker 3: united in that. And like you said, it's trauma. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we always unite in trauma, you know, And that's why
Speaker 3: we say, Look, we look at situations. A lot of
Speaker 3: people say, you know, this Trump presidency, you know, even
Speaker 3: though it's way worse than the last one, it's what
Speaker 3: it's going to take to make us revote in the
Speaker 3: manner that we need to to come together and create
Speaker 3: what it is that is necessary for black people. And
Speaker 3: I think this is one of those steps in which
Speaker 3: we go into different states, in different towns and we're
Speaker 3: getting the agenda and find out what do you believe
Speaker 3: that we need to be doing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I think that's what's always been an issue. You know,
Speaker 3: we all have our individual and say, well, me and
Speaker 3: my people we need this. What do we all need
Speaker 3: collectively that we can have So it doesn't matter who
Speaker 3: the candidate is, right that we come to and say, hey,
Speaker 3: this right here is what we need. Black people all
Speaker 3: around this country say this is what we need, you know,
Speaker 3: and when they realize that that's what it is is
Speaker 3: going to take to get our votes and to move us,
Speaker 3: and then we could create our own candidates, right because
Speaker 3: now we have a prototype of what it is.
Speaker 2: So we actually growing our own candidates.
Speaker 3: We're growing our own electiveficiers because now we have a
Speaker 3: blueprint of exactly what we want. We're sending our kids
Speaker 3: to the schools, we're educating them the manner we utilizing
Speaker 3: all of our skill sets because now you have those
Speaker 3: that have been in the suites and those have been
Speaker 3: in the streets, and they're getting a little bit of
Speaker 3: the people from the streets and they're gonna teach you
Speaker 3: how to fight there. And then they're telling you the
Speaker 3: sweets is telling you how you navigating that strategy, strategizing,
Speaker 3: And that's what it's gonna take. It's gonna take a
Speaker 3: very nuanced, complex, multi you know, intersectional movement for us,
Speaker 3: because that's what they've done. They've created, They've created someone
Speaker 3: who has the will of their poor people right to
Speaker 3: the will. He appeals to the fact that they feel
Speaker 3: like they've been disenfranchised.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Then he appeals to the white supremacists who want who
Speaker 3: have money and the money will want to be white
Speaker 3: supremacishos who just want to focus on money, and you know,
Speaker 3: and they appealing to everything. They appealing to the lower
Speaker 3: viperation and every one of these people, right, And that's
Speaker 3: what America. America is so built on low viberations that
Speaker 3: you know, it seems like the majority, but it's not,
Speaker 3: you know, just because that's what media and social media
Speaker 3: teaches us or promotes to us. That's what we need
Speaker 3: to focus on. The more lower vibrational thing we got
Speaker 3: to focus on. If I don't got money, then I
Speaker 3: ain't got this. If we ain't got sex, if we
Speaker 3: ain't got this, if we ain't hoarding.
Speaker 2: All of the resources we need. It's only us.
Speaker 3: We like, there's a whole world, and they have made
Speaker 3: us believe America America first is such a crazy thing
Speaker 3: to me, because we have a whole world with billions
Speaker 3: of people in it, and we're sitting there telling people, Nah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna alienate it.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna focus on them.
Speaker 3: That that ideology in itself is a failing ideology, right,
Speaker 3: because we're supposed to be it's resources.
Speaker 2: Is.
Speaker 3: When we travel outside of this country, right, and we
Speaker 3: visit other countries, we realize how beautiful it is, how
Speaker 3: many different nationalities, how many different cultures it is. Why
Speaker 3: would we want to isolate ourselves to just America for what?
Speaker 2: How does that benefit?
Speaker 3: Why would we want to not want to trade with
Speaker 3: other countries and build with other countries and be unified
Speaker 3: with other countries and not have to focus on we
Speaker 3: got to have four or five allies because we might
Speaker 3: have to go to war and every week, every week
Speaker 3: we got it, like it doesn't even make sense. And
Speaker 3: but that's what they have succeeded in doing, right, because
Speaker 3: people are disenfranchised, and they are purposely disenfranchised. They've created
Speaker 3: all of these things about the immigrants and this, and
Speaker 3: they tell you that the reason why you ain't got
Speaker 3: stuff because the immigrant's got it. But they stealing billions
Speaker 3: of dollars and they make billions of dollars and they
Speaker 3: able to spend two hundred million a day on shit
Speaker 3: that makes no sense.
Speaker 2: But you don't have nothing.
Speaker 3: Because the immigrant that came here that didn't have nothing
Speaker 3: is trying to get a job, and they make you
Speaker 3: focus on him and not focus on the people who's
Speaker 3: really stealing from you. But this is what America is.
Speaker 3: And I think in this time right now, blacks need
Speaker 3: to be on on cold, on Q and on point
Speaker 3: about what it is necessary for us to get to where.
Speaker 2: We need to be.
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be some people who gonna say, well, well,
Speaker 4: ice Cube, he had a plan, and he put the
Speaker 4: plan forward and people didn't follow or support. And y'all said,
Speaker 4: I want to remind folks that because I saw somebody
Speaker 4: tell a lot the other day that I and no, no, no,
Speaker 4: what I said was timing and everything. And when you're
Speaker 4: in the middle of a moment where Lucifer is trying
Speaker 4: to become president in this very second, right, my thing
Speaker 4: because he ain't do nothing about anything, but.
Speaker 2: He was strategic about that.
Speaker 1: But but okay, fine, whatever.
Speaker 4: What I said again, let me repeat myself, is that
Speaker 4: the time to present the plan is when there was
Speaker 4: nine hundred thousand people running for the Democratic nomination, Right,
Speaker 4: that was the time to present the plan so that
Speaker 4: you could find somebody of those.
Speaker 3: Even if it wasn't a Democrat, it wasn't Trump. Right,
Speaker 3: if you if you were saying to yourself that you
Speaker 3: liked the Republicans better, they were saying Republicans, it was
Speaker 3: actually something at that time.
Speaker 4: But remember they didn't I think they had a primate,
Speaker 4: but they were decided.
Speaker 1: Pretty quickly he was going to be the guy.
Speaker 4: When I'm saying that, I'm saying that there was a
Speaker 4: time when there was nine hundred thousand people running, and
Speaker 4: all I'm suggesting is that that was a great time
Speaker 4: for us to know that you had the plan, so
Speaker 4: we could go force the people to do the stuff
Speaker 4: that's in the plan.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: One last thing and number two is that some of
Speaker 4: us might have wanted to see the plan, so we
Speaker 4: could have actually helped promoted.
Speaker 2: Because if it's a plan for black and America, yeah,
Speaker 2: it should be a.
Speaker 1: Bunch of people that know about it.
Speaker 2: And sit around. It should be hundreds, not thousands of
Speaker 2: black people that feel.
Speaker 1: Like to understand that you don't go meet people about
Speaker 1: your plan. That's us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it wasn't good. I think it was good.
Speaker 1: It wasn't good thing.
Speaker 2: I think it was a good faith.
Speaker 3: I just think that when you understand, organize it, and
Speaker 3: when you're doing something by the people and for the people,
Speaker 3: then the people got to be involved.
Speaker 4: So the hints the target boycott. From day one, we've
Speaker 4: been trying to keep everybody informed of everything.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 4: So from my thought of the day today, so you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot happening with Bully Trump and his co
Speaker 4: partner co president.
Speaker 1: Where is have you seen Elon in Alaska? I ain't
Speaker 1: seen Elon. Elon said y'all messing.
Speaker 2: With don't figure it out?
Speaker 4: Said, look y'all, bread man, and I bet you some
Speaker 4: other people probably called the white said.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard from since Vin was talking about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you. So white folk called down.
Speaker 4: There to the White House and said, y'all have to
Speaker 4: get this man out of here because he is too much.
Speaker 4: He's probably you of it to you had a changeaw
Speaker 4: which I didn't even know that. So just what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. So we ain't heard from him,
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean he's not still doing this thing.
Speaker 4: Plus they don't already allegedly, uh you know, took what they.
Speaker 1: Needed to take.
Speaker 2: So I ain't heard from since then.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just where's he we should do? Where's
Speaker 1: Elon Musk? Right?
Speaker 4: But he definitely needs to be gone and not but
Speaker 4: until it's an announcement that he's absolutely gone, then he's
Speaker 4: not gone. And Trump said the other day, oh, well.
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 4: He said, no, you know, he's very talented. You know,
Speaker 4: at some point he was going to have to go back.
Speaker 1: It ain't been a year.
Speaker 2: At some point you got to go back to work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Stopt, we know three card Malli.
Speaker 1: We saw that before.
Speaker 2: So we're from New York City. We know exactly about three.
Speaker 4: Car We know three card mally so any who, AnyWho?
Speaker 4: I was thinking, you know, because we've been saying as
Speaker 4: it relates to this whole Target situation, which, by the way,
Speaker 4: a bunch of.
Speaker 1: Non believers, Oh you know everybody? Why not everybody? But
Speaker 1: there were people why Target?
Speaker 4: Why are you doing this first of all, trying to
Speaker 4: get folks to focus on sixteen things at one time.
Speaker 4: It has not ever worked. It's just we just and
Speaker 4: the way that the world moves in the speed of lightning.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a focus on something.
Speaker 4: Your your attention deficit disorder can just take you spiraling
Speaker 4: out of control. So we know what we were doing anyway.
Speaker 4: So with that being said, but as we've been talking,
Speaker 4: and I told you that in a conversation with a
Speaker 4: meeting that we had with the Target executives Nina Turner,
Speaker 4: Jamaal Bryan and myself, we asked, what is the difference
Speaker 4: between Target and Delta, Target and costco right, because those
Speaker 4: folks have said ten toes down, we staying with diversity, equity,
Speaker 4: inclusion right now, they need to say they're gonna do better,
Speaker 4: which we can keep this. There's levels to this thing,
Speaker 4: but they said they're sticking with it. They're not getting
Speaker 4: rid of their programs, So what is the difference with Target?
Speaker 4: And it made me and when I said it on
Speaker 4: the call, sure, I believe that I know, but it
Speaker 4: becomes more crystal clear to me as I watch Harvard
Speaker 4: because Harvard is being bullied. Donald Trump says he wants
Speaker 4: he gonna hold two billion dollars. Now he's up to
Speaker 4: another billion, and Harvard said, listen, you can go, you
Speaker 4: can kick Rocks. We're gonna sue you, We're gonna fight you.
Speaker 4: And we're saying, no, we're not in the world.
Speaker 1: That's why they do produce very very good lawyers.
Speaker 4: But there's some great lawyers that are coming from HBCUs.
Speaker 1: And other Right, they do they do, they do.
Speaker 4: There's people who've gone to Harvard for the most part,
Speaker 4: if they really were there, not just because somebody bought
Speaker 4: their brought their way in because we saw that we
Speaker 4: know how that was going down. But people who really
Speaker 4: went there and studied, they get something from it. And absolutely,
Speaker 4: so you're right, but Harvard said, Kickrocks not doing it now.
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it, And by the way, Harvard
Speaker 4: has a an endowment billions of dollars of an endowment.
Speaker 1: That's what endowment to four.
Speaker 4: Something happened, there's a rainy day or a situation. You
Speaker 4: can still take care of your business and maintain the
Speaker 4: institution no matter what's going on. That is a lot
Speaker 4: of rules and this and voting and boards and whatever,
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, that's what you have. You have a pocket
Speaker 4: of money or a bucket of money that is there
Speaker 4: to sustain you. Right, So they they basically like, let's
Speaker 4: play a game, because we know you you want to
Speaker 4: bully us. But if we look the devil in his eye,
Speaker 4: he a flee from you.
Speaker 1: Is that not? Is that not the word? Okay?
Speaker 4: Columbia pretty much has said they was gonna do whatever
Speaker 4: Trump wanted. Right they announced, we hear you, We're gonna
Speaker 4: get rid of this and that and do we're gonna
Speaker 4: do this to the students to put these rules, and
Speaker 4: I mean they went along with a bunch of stuff
Speaker 4: that was crazy and embarrassing. When Harvard said we're gonna
Speaker 4: fight back and created or whoever created the Big Ten,
Speaker 4: which is a bunch of educational institutions that are joining
Speaker 4: forces to fight back. Now, Columbia has sort of started
Speaker 4: to walk back some of what they've agreed to. Colombia
Speaker 4: is like, yeah, actually, we're really not gonna let the
Speaker 4: federal government tell us take away all of our autonomy.
Speaker 1: That's their statement, quote end quote. Right.
Speaker 4: It took the courage of one to stand up, and
Speaker 4: now that courage has become contagious.
Speaker 1: One became contagious.
Speaker 4: Now other people are like, oh, okay, yeah, I can
Speaker 4: stand up too. I'm gonna speak out too, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: join the fight. And my thought of the day is
Speaker 4: that we have to no matter what the nay says,
Speaker 4: be people on your team, your family members, your friends.
Speaker 4: People say the left and right, and you are telling
Speaker 4: you this ain't gonna work. While y'all in Target, what
Speaker 4: about John and this company and that company? Yeah, them companies,
Speaker 4: they also need to be on the list. But it
Speaker 4: takes you to be able to show one, just one,
Speaker 4: just one. Since we as black women especially like to
Speaker 4: go to your store and we walk around for four
Speaker 4: five hours and we became besties with you because Michelle
Speaker 4: Obama said y'all was Tarja. Somebody reminded me of that
Speaker 4: the other day. Michelle Obama said, y'all was Tarja, and
Speaker 4: we love it, We love you, and we up in
Speaker 4: there spending money, and you got the audacity, first of all,
Speaker 4: to say you're gonna roll something back and didn't even
Speaker 4: meet with the business owners or the people the community.
Speaker 4: And you want to meet now, maybe you should have
Speaker 4: met before, but you would have had to respect your
Speaker 4: consumer base and respect the people who actually are helping
Speaker 4: to keep your company in one of the top whatever
Speaker 4: number they are of those big box brands.
Speaker 1: So for me, it just.
Speaker 4: Reminds me and it underscores that we are on the
Speaker 4: right issues. That if you are a company who has
Speaker 4: decided that you want to stand with those or at
Speaker 4: least try to somehow seem like you're on the same
Speaker 4: page with this administration's racism, bigotry and oppression suppression of people.
Speaker 1: We have the right to say, we don't even need
Speaker 1: to argue with you. Let's just take our little stuff,
Speaker 1: our little bit of court.
Speaker 5: You don't need.
Speaker 1: You didn't even need it. You didn't even need it.
Speaker 4: So simple thought of the day is, it takes the
Speaker 4: courage of one, and it takes the sometimes a precise
Speaker 4: battle to be able to spread to others, to one.
Speaker 1: Alert them we're not playing and.
Speaker 4: Two show us the power of what we can do
Speaker 4: when we come together.
Speaker 3: Boycott Target, Boycott Target because Target is boycotting out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We just we just following suit. Man.
Speaker 2: You don't want us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We get it, man, You made you said, look, I'm
Speaker 3: breaking up with you, and we said we know.
Speaker 4: They said we're breaking up, but we still got some
Speaker 4: stuff for you. But it just we can't tell it.
Speaker 2: They just want to have sex with you. They don't
Speaker 2: want to go with you. See, they don't want to
Speaker 2: go with you no more, but they want to call
Speaker 2: you a little booty call.
Speaker 4: Here my time.
Speaker 1: Forget it.
Speaker 3: You can't get none of this. Now you realize that
Speaker 3: you've got that. We had that good good and you're like,
Speaker 3: damn man, what we're going to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you for.
Speaker 3: No more booty called down up, break up with us
Speaker 3: in the daytime and try to get a little bit
Speaker 3: of at nighttime.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna work, man, So we on you.
Speaker 1: Terrble moving right long? Do you have to see your
Speaker 1: minde for today? Are people still doing too much?
Speaker 2: People are doing way way too much.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is too much right because
Speaker 3: you know Trump's tariffs they have to like two hundred
Speaker 3: and forty five percenting against China, and so we, I mean, this.
Speaker 1: Is like not even making sense the word we're from.
Speaker 3: We're in the tariff war with a country, a nation
Speaker 3: that we have allowed to outsource most of our things
Speaker 3: with in hopes that now people in America saying, you
Speaker 3: know what we're gonna We're just gonna build all the
Speaker 3: things that they got and we're gonna find out. But
Speaker 3: now what we're doing is we're eliminating the fact that
Speaker 3: we have import export companies that are gonna be disenfranchised.
Speaker 3: We have certain trucking businesses that they can go to
Speaker 3: those docks to get through. All of these places that
Speaker 3: have built their industries off the import export building business,
Speaker 3: mainly going to China, are going to close down. So
Speaker 3: the only thing you're doing is actually sacrifice it. You're
Speaker 3: interchanging them, so it's not going to build anything, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna end the relationship with the country. But that's
Speaker 3: not even the thing. Right now, China has said, okay,
Speaker 3: so we a war. So what I'm gonna do is
Speaker 3: let y'all know them the consumer dollar bags y'all paying
Speaker 3: for they made right here in this little factory for
Speaker 3: about thirty forty dollars and if you want them, we
Speaker 3: can ship them to you personally. Since this is what
Speaker 3: y'all want to do, we gonna let you know the
Speaker 3: back is made in China and ain't made in whatever
Speaker 3: you think it is. And we got them right here.
Speaker 3: They charging you fivey ten thousand. We got them for
Speaker 3: about fifty one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Man want fifty hundred, They charging fifty hundred.
Speaker 3: And they on every site letting you know this this
Speaker 3: the game y'all want to play. They playing dirty? So
Speaker 3: are they doing too much by exposing? Because I think
Speaker 3: that people are stupid anyway, Yeah, y'all, y'all love to
Speaker 3: spend more money because if it's saying costs more money,
Speaker 3: y'all say, it's more value with So they let y'all
Speaker 3: know that they be playing y'all, and some people won't
Speaker 3: be like, I'm not buy it. And it's the same day.
Speaker 3: This is this is how we have been conditioned to
Speaker 3: just do bullshit. It's the same bag if somebody put
Speaker 3: the same exact bag and they tell you this bag
Speaker 3: right here it's five hundred dollars and this one is
Speaker 3: fifty thousand. Some people will say, dont want that fifty
Speaker 3: thousan fifty thousand dollars bag.
Speaker 2: And you're gonna buy it.
Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying to myself, is it even
Speaker 3: gonna work? Because we so materialistic and we want to
Speaker 3: have what's called high level fashion anyway, that want my
Speaker 3: end high end and whatever it is high end fashion
Speaker 3: anyway that people gonna still want to pay five thousand
Speaker 3: dollars for the thirty dollars bag?
Speaker 2: So are they doing too much? Are they wasting their time?
Speaker 2: Is it gonna make sense?
Speaker 3: Are we gonna fall for or we're gonna because listen
Speaker 3: to me, China, let me get about ten twenties bag.
Speaker 2: Because I know I can sell them here.
Speaker 4: Now, but you can't sell them because the logo is
Speaker 4: not going to be on them.
Speaker 1: See that's the thing.
Speaker 4: The reason why the bags cost more money is because
Speaker 4: the people like Hermez is one that are trying to
Speaker 4: put this information out about Hermez puts they first of all,
Speaker 4: this is so crazy, which when I was watching the video,
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 1: Who They said, China ships the product to Europe.
Speaker 4: Europe puts the stamp and the serial number and all
Speaker 4: the hardware on it that comes from this count from
Speaker 4: from her meds and her ear maz and then they
Speaker 4: send it over here to America.
Speaker 1: So when they send it over here, they send it
Speaker 1: from Europe.
Speaker 4: So you think you get used some European stuff.
Speaker 1: And really that's what China said.
Speaker 3: Now did they go over here and they put it
Speaker 3: made in Europe and then the shore.
Speaker 1: They don't say made in Europe.
Speaker 4: I think it might still say made in China, or
Speaker 4: maybe it doesn't say it at all, because I'm imagine
Speaker 4: they paid him a little more to take everything off
Speaker 4: of it. I have to look because I am a victim.
Speaker 1: I'm not a victim. It's by choice. It's by choice.
Speaker 1: It's my choice.
Speaker 4: But I'm not a person that says, I'm not willing
Speaker 4: to buy this fire one hundred dollars thing. I'd rather
Speaker 4: the fifty thousand. I have all of it. I got something.
Speaker 4: I don't have nothing fifty thousand, but I have all
Speaker 4: of it. I have high end stuff supposed you know,
Speaker 4: quote unquote with the logo, and I have things that
Speaker 4: I value that are very good quality, that comes from
Speaker 4: different people, and especially black folks, that cost something that
Speaker 4: is much more reasonable.
Speaker 1: So I'm across the spectrum.
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, however, I am one of those
Speaker 4: people who have purchased things that are very expensive and
Speaker 4: it came from this brand and that brand. So I'm
Speaker 4: just saying that when target targeting, when China puts this
Speaker 4: information out, it does make you sit back and be like,
Speaker 4: this is very interesting. They send it to Europe, and
Speaker 4: in Europe does yeah because you don't really care. You
Speaker 4: will wear a little bit of name brand, but that.
Speaker 3: Ain't your thing because I realized that somebody is jerking,
Speaker 3: somebody is skimming and.
Speaker 2: Skin It's funny.
Speaker 1: That was funny when you.
Speaker 3: When you start selling clothes and you get into like fashion,
Speaker 3: start realizing that you go downtown and people is buying
Speaker 3: twenty three, they bring it up town they.
Speaker 2: Selling for two hundred.
Speaker 3: So if that's just happening in that in the micro,
Speaker 3: I know what these people is.
Speaker 2: Making and how they doing it. So listen. Might be TAMN,
Speaker 2: but might not be.
Speaker 1: There's that, it might not be tr min. Maybe I
Speaker 1: think it's it. I think people need to know.
Speaker 4: This decision because there are people out here that kill
Speaker 4: over this stuff and die over it.
Speaker 2: Work.
Speaker 4: They whold life, won't buy nothing else before they get
Speaker 4: whatever this thing is that has a symbol of status.
Speaker 1: So but that that was you, That was a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was very.
Speaker 4: Now speaking of where folks are getting products and stuff, man,
Speaker 4: I tell you they're trying to kill us.
Speaker 1: This lady that is coming.
Speaker 4: Up right now, our next guest is about to talk
Speaker 4: about something that's really serious, like our health is at risk,
Speaker 4: for people's greed, for people's lack of care, and again,
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that we're getting from other places
Speaker 4: around the world, they really don't care if it's killing
Speaker 4: black women and killing black people. And so we're about
Speaker 4: to learn a little bit more about that. And like
Speaker 4: I said, it's really personal for me because I'm one
Speaker 4: of the individuals who needs needs the service that this
Speaker 4: woman is coming up to talk about. So this conversation
Speaker 4: that we're about to have is so serious. I don't
Speaker 4: even know if we've ever talked about anything on this
Speaker 4: show that's more serious than that than this.
Speaker 1: Because my health is at risk.
Speaker 4: I love me some braids. Got to have some braids.
Speaker 4: This is part of my lifestyle. And even when I
Speaker 4: have my bundles in my head, there's braids under new
Speaker 4: So there are literally braids in my hair probably three
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five day fifty what is it, three
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty by d about three hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: days of the year I have braids in my head.
Speaker 4: I just want everybody to understand because I only got
Speaker 4: about five.
Speaker 1: Days of all through a whole year.
Speaker 4: Of taking it out, maybe a night of letting it
Speaker 4: just be free. But I keep my hair done. So
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. So we
Speaker 4: have this sister who is here with us today, Kadija Doso,
Speaker 4: who is the CEO and founder of Doso Beauty, and
Speaker 4: that is a company that is the first clinically tested,
Speaker 4: non toxic, hypoallergenic braiding hair and organic hair care brand on.
Speaker 1: The market, the first.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm taking A young beautiful woman who you
Speaker 4: have been recognized by Forbes thirty Under thirty, Refinery twenty
Speaker 4: nine and you name it. I think you also won
Speaker 4: the competition with what's his name, Pharrell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're like.
Speaker 4: Making headway, making headlines, one point eight million dollars in
Speaker 4: sales and your company just started in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: No, we started in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: Oh, in twenty eighteen, Okay, But twenty twenty four is
Speaker 4: when you begin to get the recognition. Yeah, got a
Speaker 4: lot of recognition in twenty I mean in these past
Speaker 4: two months we've jumped by eight hundred percent of sales. Okay,
Speaker 4: So it's a lot happened in what you were saying,
Speaker 4: the political dynamics are shifting people's focus towards black businesses. Then,
Speaker 4: of course, health is a thing. And I love knowing
Speaker 4: that you guys started in twenty eighteen because what that
Speaker 4: consistently underscores for our young people and for other people
Speaker 4: who think that this is the social media it pops
Speaker 4: up and just happens.
Speaker 1: Era it doesn't.
Speaker 4: People are building things for years before we see the
Speaker 4: finished product and before you actually get the credit. So
Speaker 4: you're saying that for six years you were moving around
Speaker 4: and doing stuff, but you begin to get a focus
Speaker 4: and the recognition in terms of headlines and whatnot in twenties.
Speaker 4: So it took you six years twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Four, it's definitely been a culmination. That's okay. Just you know,
Speaker 1: because we deal with people every day.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow you're supposed to be rich, Like they're like, no,
Speaker 3: I just did it. Why ain't got the money because
Speaker 3: you ain't put the work in. You got to struggle
Speaker 3: before you could really strive. You don't understand. They don't
Speaker 3: understand that that was a bar. So you got to
Speaker 3: struggle before you can strive.
Speaker 4: But I don't want to always struggle.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, you're building a house, like you're
Speaker 3: building something. There's a foundation right before you building foundation
Speaker 3: is mud, is this and that, and you have to
Speaker 3: make it solid so that they just it don't blow away.
Speaker 3: It's like the Little Piggy's houses man, you know three
Speaker 3: all of them had different houses. When you know when
Speaker 3: they built it. That brick though, it's gonna last long.
Speaker 3: So you just gotta understand what it is that you're doing.
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm saying we appreciate you because this
Speaker 3: is this is the lessons that our kids need to
Speaker 3: understand that there is a process, that it takes time,
Speaker 3: because most of they just go on the internet and
Speaker 3: they see people.
Speaker 2: Go viral one day and somebody's viraling. You know, I
Speaker 2: was popular.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know. I woke up and I was
Speaker 3: viraling out nos. But there are a lot of us
Speaker 3: who had to do this brick by brick who had
Speaker 3: to put the work in, you know, and there's a
Speaker 3: story behind it.
Speaker 2: And the thing, the thing that I.
Speaker 3: Always tell people is those closest to the problem or
Speaker 3: closest to the solution. Right, So when you you created
Speaker 3: this out of something of reaction that you had to synthetic, kids,
Speaker 3: plain how that happened.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I was living here in New York and
Speaker 4: I got my hair braided in Brooklyn and I had
Speaker 4: a severe allergy creation. I mean there's something called dermatitis
Speaker 4: bump so it's a little tiny bumps that you're like, ooh,
Speaker 4: it's pulling.
Speaker 1: Or so it was actually the braiding hair.
Speaker 4: I called myself being precautious by getting the clean therapy
Speaker 4: like pre cleansed hair, pre treated hair. But the hair
Speaker 4: is still super toxic. Most people don't notice, but braiding
Speaker 4: hair includes lead, mercury, and a bunch of other carcinogens
Speaker 4: that literally cause us cancer.
Speaker 1: Damn. What is VOCs is that?
Speaker 4: So those are different compounded ingredients that help that they
Speaker 4: basically help us to cause cancer.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So those different compounds and ingredients they are mixed together,
Speaker 4: especially when you put other chemicals together, and the basis
Speaker 4: of the connectulon fiber when they started to create it
Speaker 4: in nineteen fifties something. It was built together, so it
Speaker 4: can last longer, it can be shiny, it can take
Speaker 4: to color, it can be flame retarded, heat resistance.
Speaker 1: So basically, it's toxic chemicals.
Speaker 4: Toxic chemicals. Okay, So Johnson and Johnson. I think about
Speaker 4: our brother, attorney Benjamin Krump, who is suing Johnson and
Speaker 4: Johnson because clearly the baby powder, the talcum and other
Speaker 4: things were not good for us. I think Revlon is
Speaker 4: one of the other companies as well. So we know
Speaker 4: that there's a history of these toxins, specifically harming black folks,
Speaker 4: which sometimes I wonder, like how why is it? Everything
Speaker 4: it just escifically, so I don't understand. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: so how why is it that the end, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that there haven't been white folks, white women who
Speaker 4: also use talcum powder and they got you know, what
Speaker 4: do we get cistus and things like that cancer cause insists.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, but we know the numbers are
Speaker 4: not the same, and I just try to understand why
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: Maybe you don't, maybe this is off topic, but do
Speaker 4: you understand, like what is it that the products are
Speaker 4: specifically bad for us as black people?
Speaker 1: I think for me, honestly, you really got to take
Speaker 1: a look at the ownership of the actual industry.
Speaker 4: So most people don't know, but like almost eighty nine
Speaker 4: percent of all ethnic hair care products are owned by
Speaker 4: white and Korean men. Do you think that they researched
Speaker 4: what might harm their own people and make sure that
Speaker 4: it's not as prevalent in the product and they don't
Speaker 4: care about the rest of the folks. I think they
Speaker 4: care about time. I think they care about the speed,
Speaker 4: how much money they can make off of it. But
Speaker 4: as far as health is concerned, I think that's the
Speaker 4: last part on their list.
Speaker 1: No matter what.
Speaker 3: I'm making it not to say, but who is really
Speaker 3: getting braids? You know what I'm saying, the white girls.
Speaker 1: Are using And I was talking about tau compowders.
Speaker 4: So I'm all to Johnson and Johnson kind of you know,
Speaker 4: just thinking about like Johnson and Johnson and Reblin there
Speaker 4: is a specific impact for black women with those products,
Speaker 4: black people with those products, and a lot of times
Speaker 4: black men are impacted too because black men can get
Speaker 4: cysts and you know, cancer cause and sist.
Speaker 1: But never talk about it.
Speaker 4: And that's why the death rates are so stark because
Speaker 4: most of the men are not taking care of themselves
Speaker 4: properly and not getting the proper checkups and all of that.
Speaker 4: So by the time they're gone the research and the
Speaker 4: process of treatment and all of that, it's too late,
Speaker 4: you know. So it's so there's a lot of disparities there.
Speaker 4: But I was specifically thinking about why some of those products,
Speaker 4: all the toxins harm us the most. But to your point,
Speaker 4: all of them, back to your point, across the board,
Speaker 4: they're thinking about how to get these product make the
Speaker 4: most that they can, so they want to spread it
Speaker 4: as much as they can in which means you need
Speaker 4: to put synthetic things. Let's go back to I learned
Speaker 4: a little bit from New Jack City and juice not juice,
Speaker 4: what's of belly and all of that that when people
Speaker 4: making drugs they put products in it that makes it
Speaker 4: look the same, but it's what is it lower quality
Speaker 4: that stretches it out, Like we know, we saw them
Speaker 4: cook it up, you know, bacon powder, bacon soda was
Speaker 4: a part of that, right, and that so that that
Speaker 4: so we know infence and all is now something that
Speaker 4: is being used to stretch drugs and it's killing people.
Speaker 4: So this is a problem, Like what is the FDA involved?
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. Like the other part is that there's.
Speaker 4: No FDA regulation about around cosmetics, especially the ethnic hair
Speaker 4: care products that are around there, so people can like
Speaker 4: I had the allergic reaction. Again, it's said clean therapy,
Speaker 4: it's said that it was pre cleansed.
Speaker 1: But that's just marketing.
Speaker 4: Anybody can can mock up a PDF on canvas and say, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna print this out and put it on the packaging.
Speaker 1: Anybody can.
Speaker 4: There's no regulation the braiding here that were using my
Speaker 4: hair itching right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm cratching. I wasn't even in
Speaker 1: that engine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that there's no body. No. And by
Speaker 1: the way, have you ever seen Painkillers? No? No?
Speaker 4: Okay, so you have to watch Painkiller. You have to
Speaker 4: watch Painkillers on Netflix. God, we've been telling you about it.
Speaker 4: But you find out at the end of this documentary
Speaker 4: that the guy from the FDA who was continuously denying
Speaker 4: the Percoset family, my line, my son their application over
Speaker 4: some year, no no, because he knew that it was
Speaker 4: addictive and harmful, and he was like, nah, this is
Speaker 4: not good for people.
Speaker 1: They met him somewhere.
Speaker 4: It was this is a documentary painkiller, so they's supposed
Speaker 4: to be true information here. They met him somewhere at
Speaker 4: a conference or invited him to come and kind of
Speaker 4: see up close and personal what they do. There was
Speaker 4: a meeting in the hotel room. The next thing you know,
Speaker 4: he a year later, he approves their patent and then.
Speaker 1: Quits the FDA and goes to work for.
Speaker 5: Stop.
Speaker 2: They paid him a lot of money.
Speaker 1: The Sackler family, the Sacler family. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the FDA don't even mean the thing, but
Speaker 4: you're telling me there is no governing body.
Speaker 1: There is no governing body.
Speaker 4: So like, that's why it was important for us to
Speaker 4: get our clinical trials because I wanted to make sure that, Okay,
Speaker 4: my manufacturer wasn't just telling me, okay, this is non
Speaker 4: toxic and hyper ologenic. I needed clinical trials to both
Speaker 4: say that we are clinically tested non toxic and also
Speaker 4: hyper ologenetic.
Speaker 3: Wow, So what exact chemicals are there that causes like
Speaker 3: these cancers?
Speaker 4: Lead mercury and a bunch of again other carcentergens. The
Speaker 4: biggest part about lead and mercury. As we know, like
Speaker 4: if lead and mercury aren't in any of the food
Speaker 4: items too much that we have we consume, it can
Speaker 4: cause us to have really really like bad health concerns.
Speaker 1: But those are just two of them.
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of PBBs and other VOCs like Tamika
Speaker 4: mentioned that literally caused cancer. They also help to induce
Speaker 4: other thyroid reactions as well too. Some people that have
Speaker 4: fibroids as well too, they see flare ups. I have
Speaker 4: so many friends, quite a few friends who are you know,
Speaker 4: they have all of these different you know, feminine issues
Speaker 4: that are you know, going on with their womb and
Speaker 4: with cysts, and it actually makes it that worse, right,
Speaker 4: because the thing about braids is it's not like you're
Speaker 4: taking it on and taking it off. I'm keeping this
Speaker 4: in for weeks at a time. My pores are open, right,
Speaker 4: So whatever chemical that you sweat hair, I'm sweating, it's open.
Speaker 4: Even coloring whatever, yes, color, Yes, it's color too, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: so it's color the hair come.
Speaker 1: From that we use for our braid in here.
Speaker 4: Please don't tell me, don't you know you know where
Speaker 4: I saw something somewhere like it's like terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So mostly most of where everything else in this country
Speaker 4: comes from is exactly.
Speaker 1: Where the braiding hair comes from.
Speaker 4: So most of the braiding hair is made in China
Speaker 4: but sold by Korean people.
Speaker 1: So like there's this like whole I don't even know if.
Speaker 4: Y'all, if y'all dig or peep and understand the hermes,
Speaker 4: I mean, hermez, they don't.
Speaker 1: The Chinese is feeling everything.
Speaker 4: They said, actually you can get this from us for
Speaker 4: twenty dollars two thousands, that's what they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it showed you where is being made.
Speaker 4: Okay, there sitting across from each other, like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: So the Asian Empire is just like a crazy conglomerate. Like,
Speaker 4: so you got Chinese people, they own restaurants and all
Speaker 4: those things. We have Korean people right who are notoriously
Speaker 4: known for opening up beauty supply stores. They have trade
Speaker 4: agreements with China where they can if my manufacturer is
Speaker 4: selling it to me for a dollar, they're gonna sell
Speaker 4: it to them for opinion. So I'm paying, you know,
Speaker 4: one hundred percent more than what they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Sell it to their fellow Asian brethren, and people.
Speaker 3: Talking about we shouldn't be doing business with each other.
Speaker 3: And listen, we ain't got time. We don't got time
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help you because my goal is this. If
Speaker 3: you ain't got this right, we're gonna fix it.
Speaker 1: That's right, We're gonna fix whatever you ain't right. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fix it.
Speaker 2: Bring my money to look.
Speaker 3: Okay, you messed up this time, but look this, and
Speaker 3: once you show the need that you want to be better,
Speaker 3: I'm invest in that.
Speaker 2: And that's what we have to do as black people
Speaker 2: because that's what they do.
Speaker 3: And I don't know anybody who does not think that
Speaker 3: every other ethnic group does. That is crazy, just because
Speaker 3: they see each other as brother and sister. It's like
Speaker 3: if my little brother is doing something, because why am
Speaker 3: I not gonna invest in him, especially when I know
Speaker 3: he got the skill set and the will to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bet on him more than I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make sure you get rich. I'm I'm making sure that
Speaker 3: I'm creating generational wealth. And and black people the only
Speaker 3: people that don't want to and tell you, oh, I
Speaker 3: ain't just doing it because you're black. I am I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do it because you're black, and I don't want you.
Speaker 2: To be confused. You black, you doing something and I
Speaker 2: need it. I'm going to you.
Speaker 3: I believe in it, just the be reality of the
Speaker 3: situation and we have and we don't have to be ashamed.
Speaker 2: To say that. Well.
Speaker 4: I think the other thing that's interesting, and I saw
Speaker 4: something earlier today was about nepotism, right, like in the
Speaker 4: sense of not just like familial but cultural nepotism. Like
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with putting other black people.
Speaker 2: I'm awful. That's why I want That's why I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that Lebron.
Speaker 4: Said, and I got opportunity and when my son want
Speaker 4: to play ball, you could play.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you need to be good when you get there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you not, then but I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: The opportunity of opportunity.
Speaker 3: Because even the thing is this right, because people try
Speaker 3: to tell Bron he wasn't good, right, all right, It
Speaker 3: started out he was having he was going through the things,
Speaker 3: and he created his son. You're gonna be able to
Speaker 3: mess up a little bit. We ain't just throwing you
Speaker 3: up because I control this. I'm the face of this,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Say, my son's gonna get something.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna send him down to the other league,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna let you get Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get it.
Speaker 3: Look you listen, they're gonna talk crazy about you. That's
Speaker 3: will come with the game. But you're gonna have every opportunity. Now,
Speaker 3: if you fuck this up, it's on you because I'm
Speaker 3: giving you every and next to you know, he was
Speaker 3: going to forty and thirty and they was old, Ron, Nah,
Speaker 3: I don't say that, because that's what you're supposed to
Speaker 3: do to your son.
Speaker 2: That's what we're supposed to do with our kids. We
Speaker 2: gotta let them.
Speaker 3: I'm a soccer dad, So my son goes out there,
Speaker 3: he might have a bad quarter, bad game, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. And I'm near every game, so
Speaker 3: the coach know that I'm here for my Sony, y'all
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that he get all the opportunities. I'm
Speaker 3: ana scream at the top of my lung. I'm a
Speaker 3: curse a the ref. I'm going to make him feel
Speaker 3: so comfortable to be able to be one hundred percent
Speaker 3: of hisself.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're supposed to do his parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're supposed to, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, so since we support you, tell us some
Speaker 4: more about your products.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: So now you you have this product here that and
Speaker 4: do people believe in you?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 4: Where do you think the click happened for folks starting
Speaker 4: to support and respect your work? So I think it
Speaker 4: was so funny enough. I conducted my clinical trials last
Speaker 4: year well before, and Princeton reached out to me directly.
Speaker 4: They found our brand and they were like, hey, we
Speaker 4: could help to test your hair to make sure it's hyperolergenic.
Speaker 1: I was always putting pressure on my manufacturer to.
Speaker 4: Be like, yo, like, we got to make sure we
Speaker 4: get testing, testing, testing for regulation, and so I decided
Speaker 4: to do that way ahead of when the Consumer Report
Speaker 4: just got released two months ago.
Speaker 1: Once the Consumer Report.
Speaker 4: Got released, people kind of are like, oh, well, I
Speaker 4: don't have an allergic reaction, so it doesn't matter now.
Speaker 4: Since that got released and it showed the breakdown of
Speaker 4: all of the top ten brands that has black women
Speaker 4: in a choke hoole and has had us in a
Speaker 4: choke hoal like expressions like shak and go like all
Speaker 4: of those brands. The exposure was there. So now people
Speaker 4: are like, no, I need to find an alternative. I
Speaker 4: have to find an alternative. So that was the really
Speaker 4: big peak for me. But the preparation is why we're
Speaker 4: able to do what we do, and while we were
Speaker 4: able to grow by eight hundred percent, right because I
Speaker 4: have the supply chain, I have the background. A lot
Speaker 4: of the other non toxic branding hair brands, they're all
Speaker 4: sold out of stop and they can't restop for months
Speaker 4: at a time. But I've already had great trade agreements
Speaker 4: with ups with my manufacturer to be able to produce
Speaker 4: and purchase orders once a week and to get in here. Question,
Speaker 4: so what is what is it going to be? The pushback?
Speaker 4: What are the hair braiders saying? So, like my the
Speaker 4: person who braids my hair, certain hair you she won't
Speaker 4: use right now, I don't she. I hope she knows.
Speaker 4: Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. She says pretty cleaned,
Speaker 4: and she definitely tries to use quality of everything and
Speaker 4: all of that. But she I'm sure she could be
Speaker 4: educated as well on how we can do better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure I'm as soon as I called you gonna say
Speaker 4: what let me write it down? Let me see what
Speaker 4: you're talking about? Right, So I get that, but I'm
Speaker 4: sure there is there, there, there has been, and there
Speaker 4: always will be an excuse that we love white folks
Speaker 4: or anybody else folks stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it. You've got to have so we'll.
Speaker 4: Say no, no, no, it doesn't work because it's splits
Speaker 4: and it doesn't do the thing right. And whatever is there?
Speaker 4: Have you heard some of that? Or you think that
Speaker 4: your product is just ready and there's no issue.
Speaker 1: No, no, there is a lot.
Speaker 4: There's a ton of braiders who I find myself having
Speaker 4: to educate and I've even created a community called the
Speaker 4: Braid Corner to give them more education about it because
Speaker 4: they would rather go purchase Expressions because they've been using
Speaker 4: Expressions for twenty years rather than trying a non toxic
Speaker 4: braiding hair brand that not only is this hair that
Speaker 4: they braiding in your hair causing you can't touching it all,
Speaker 4: you're touching it all day so you are now susceptible
Speaker 4: to those same things times.
Speaker 1: Ten because you're playing in the product all day long.
Speaker 4: Right, So for a lot of the braiders, right, what
Speaker 4: they do is they send their customers to come to
Speaker 4: us to purchase the hair directly, but we have a
Speaker 4: program where you only need to buy twelve in order
Speaker 4: to get thirty percent off, So it's not like it's
Speaker 4: super hard for you to do it. We're on other
Speaker 4: platforms where you can pay for your hair and your
Speaker 4: products that you need in net sixty terms without having
Speaker 4: you don't have to have stellar credit and you know,
Speaker 4: have a crazy trade line agreement because people don't want
Speaker 4: a lot of hair sitting around when they're working in
Speaker 4: a suite or they like because my braider every time
Speaker 4: I leave, she like, you want to take the left
Speaker 4: or right?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, man, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: And again it's a business acumen thing. So like I
Speaker 4: went to Hampton for undergrad and study business. The more
Speaker 4: and more i am speaking with braiders and I'm speaking
Speaker 4: with salnes, a lot of them just don't have the
Speaker 4: best business practices and understanding that every single product that
Speaker 4: you pay for is a part of your cost of
Speaker 4: good soul and so when you do throw that extra
Speaker 4: piece of hair away, you are literally throwing money away, right,
Speaker 4: So I think it's more so about educating people and
Speaker 4: then also right now they're putting the onus back onto
Speaker 4: the actual customers or the clients to get the hair,
Speaker 4: so that hair in your head is your hair, of course, yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 4: well I don't have to try your hair, so they
Speaker 4: a different type of technique or something that braiders need
Speaker 4: to be aware of when it comes to your hair
Speaker 4: to help them loop it around better, easier whatever.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you.
Speaker 4: Can use our braiding hair just like you wild. You
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Speaker 4: Tell me about the dipping process, because we thought I
Speaker 4: thought that was really you know, making it good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, problematic, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It is, especially with the toxic braiding hair because you're
Speaker 4: admitting all of it.
Speaker 1: You ever see the water and it's super cloudy.
Speaker 4: That's a bunch of those chemicals coming off of the
Speaker 4: hair into the hot water. And so you can hot
Speaker 4: water set our braiding hair. You won't see white foam
Speaker 4: and all the stuff bubbling around because it's pre cleansed
Speaker 4: and pre treated already.
Speaker 1: Our hair is super soft. It's lightweight.
Speaker 4: You felt my hair already, and it's super like, it's
Speaker 4: super super soft. A little a lot, a little goes
Speaker 4: a long way. That's what I also say, is like
Speaker 4: our bundles are actually thicker and bigger than the regular
Speaker 4: braiding hair that's in the market.
Speaker 1: So really, if you want to get like medium not list,
Speaker 1: you can use two three bundle packs of our braiding hair.
Speaker 4: We also do have different lengths and colors too, so
Speaker 4: I thought it was super important for us to have
Speaker 4: a shorter length for you know, some of the kids
Speaker 4: as well as like sometimes you just don't want a
Speaker 4: bunch of long braids, you know. The knotless bob was
Speaker 4: a thing that has been trending, right, so like getting
Speaker 4: a shorter length. And then we do have our twenty
Speaker 4: eight inches which is our three bundle packs, and we
Speaker 4: have our thirty two inches, so I have our thirty
Speaker 4: two inches because I wanted it longer.
Speaker 1: What's the price point difference?
Speaker 4: So our three bundle pack is thirty dollars right now
Speaker 4: and our single packs are thirteen. So that's why it
Speaker 4: just makes sense to get too three bundle packs and
Speaker 4: you're good to go.
Speaker 1: Good, But what you got, oh you're going to ask.
Speaker 3: So being a black entrepreneur and working and having to
Speaker 3: sell you know, your products online and in different spaces,
Speaker 3: how is do you affecting you? Do you feel like
Speaker 3: it's affecting you? Do you feel like it's necessary.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I've been able to be the
Speaker 4: product of twenty plus accelerated programs that were created and
Speaker 4: curated for black entrepreneurs. So me being a part of
Speaker 4: those programs, just like you mentioned earlier for Royal Williams
Speaker 4: Black Ambition, I was the HBCU Grand Prize winner. If
Speaker 4: there was not funding being poured into the foundation like
Speaker 4: Black Ambition, then there would not be opportunity for me
Speaker 4: to have money and capital to start and grow my business. Right,
Speaker 4: So for me right now, I think I'm on the
Speaker 4: other end of it, not looking to receive a bunch
Speaker 4: of grants to get started, because we are doing well
Speaker 4: as far as revenue is concerned. But now it's like
Speaker 4: me pouring back into our community, right and so giving
Speaker 4: back to the community, employing other people that are within
Speaker 4: our community, in my retail store, in my actual braiding
Speaker 4: salon in Philly, like being able to do those things.
Speaker 4: And so I think that the other part that the
Speaker 4: D and I issue I feel like and I come
Speaker 4: from corporate too, so I worked at a really big
Speaker 4: management consulting firm and I was a part of the
Speaker 4: DR program because again I'm the HBCU grad and recruit.
Speaker 4: Oh you mean to tell me that you, as a
Speaker 4: black person, were in a dr program because you know,
Speaker 4: if you let the internet tell it, black people didn't
Speaker 4: get nothing from it, just all white women and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, So me as a black woman was a part
Speaker 4: of a really really good program that filtered in from
Speaker 4: HBCU students. So they go to the Hamptons, the Howards,
Speaker 4: the more houses, and they picked the best of the
Speaker 4: best there to start.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 4: That was the That was the We've been trying to
Speaker 4: tell people that we got to choose one thing or
Speaker 4: the other. We're saying that it didn't benefit black folks,
Speaker 4: but then we're saying we've got to support the black
Speaker 4: businesses that are being impacted by either either it either
Speaker 4: was impacted or it wasn't exactly and it was though,
Speaker 4: right because I think the other part is it we
Speaker 4: just talked about it, right, nepotism in a sense, right,
Speaker 4: but in a good way, right, Like, Hey, if we
Speaker 4: are disadvantaged people, and it's just like when you apply
Speaker 4: for a grant, if you are from a disadvantaged community,
Speaker 4: a marginalized community.
Speaker 1: It's a part of me you can check that bot off.
Speaker 4: That means that I do need a leg up in
Speaker 4: order to get and have some sort of equal way
Speaker 4: for the counterpart to. All their dads are partners at
Speaker 4: the firm and they didn't even really have to apply,
Speaker 4: So yes, we need those programs. I think it's super
Speaker 4: important for all of the larger companies and firms to
Speaker 4: still have all of those recruitment programs. And the former
Speaker 4: job that I actually left, they actually just announced that
Speaker 4: they were stopping their DEI recruitment programs. So now I'm
Speaker 4: interested to see what consulting is going to look like,
Speaker 4: because if it's all going to be whitewashed, or I'm
Speaker 4: only recruited from all of the top schools that have
Speaker 4: all the legs up, there's no diversity in thought and
Speaker 4: in those rooms and all of the other really cool
Speaker 4: things that y'all need to provide to these clients that
Speaker 4: you're all making billions off of. You're not going to
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to have those people in the rooms.
Speaker 1: Now, well, honey, let the church.
Speaker 2: You said it.
Speaker 1: Let the church say amen, Amen, and we appreciate you.
Speaker 4: You are extremely knowledgeable, beautiful your product. I'm going to
Speaker 4: start using and talking about I can't wait to put
Speaker 4: it on my socials and tell the sisters. We leaving
Speaker 4: the other people and we go in to a black woman.
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't have space,
Speaker 4: but I will find space to stockpile my braiding here
Speaker 4: so I can bring it with me whenever I go
Speaker 4: to get my hair braided. And you know, Kadiza listening
Speaker 4: to you speaking on the diversity and he was the
Speaker 4: one who said, we have to ask about diversity, and
Speaker 4: I was like, well, maybe she doesn't want to talk
Speaker 4: about that, but to know that you actually have history
Speaker 4: and personal experience makes it so much better because you
Speaker 4: said something that is so key. You said because I
Speaker 4: was a part part of programs that were created in
Speaker 4: the name of diversity, equity and inclusion. I was able
Speaker 4: to get funding so that I could build and now
Speaker 4: I am taking what I was able to accomplish and
Speaker 4: help and helping other people.
Speaker 1: That has always been the.
Speaker 4: Reason why diversity and equity and inclusion was established. That
Speaker 4: was why some of these companies were forced to do
Speaker 4: it because people.
Speaker 1: Called them out on not having it.
Speaker 4: And yes, it's been infiltrated by white women in this
Speaker 4: group and we get that always happened.
Speaker 1: They wear corn rolls.
Speaker 4: You're trying to act like Kim Kardashian at some point
Speaker 4: started it. Okay, so we know, we know, we know
Speaker 4: that it's always infiltrated. What we should be asking for
Speaker 4: and what we should be demanding, is that you don't change.
Speaker 1: You don't take back diversity, equity, and inclusion. You make
Speaker 1: it better, you make it stronger, you.
Speaker 4: Add more elements to it to ensure that it impacts
Speaker 4: the most vulnerable populations. But some of us are so
Speaker 4: crazy and we get caught up in I don't even
Speaker 4: know whatever whatever they learned on the podcast somewhere that
Speaker 4: you know, a YouTube that we don't need it, We
Speaker 4: don't need it. So now what you're because you said
Speaker 4: the nothing, I want to correct that you said.
Speaker 1: You said, we don't know. We're interested to see what's
Speaker 1: gonna look like.
Speaker 4: It's going to look like how it looked before, and
Speaker 4: how it looked before was white men were the leaders
Speaker 4: and made all had all the money, and the white
Speaker 4: women were their assistance, and black.
Speaker 1: People worked in the kitchen, worked in.
Speaker 4: You know, driver maybe and had these little jobs, which
Speaker 4: is why they want immigrants to be moved because if
Speaker 4: you have immigrants who are filling up some of those
Speaker 4: spaces of doing a lot of the hard work, the
Speaker 4: labor work, and then you have more black people becoming
Speaker 4: more educated and entrepreneurs. Now you got to deal with
Speaker 4: us on a level, and the immigrant into becoming a
Speaker 4: larger population. They're growing, they're having more children.
Speaker 1: So now you got to you.
Speaker 4: What happens is white folks are being called to the
Speaker 4: table that you can't have all of this pie for yourself.
Speaker 4: So they said, we got to readjust this thing so
Speaker 4: we can make America great again. Don't play with us
Speaker 4: like we don't know what's going on. We should be
Speaker 4: fighting for not just diversity, equity and inclusion.
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Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to say. Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming to my ted talk.
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, thank you for being here. Great. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Anything that we left out that
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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize the way that she was saying
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Speaker 3: and the sweating and the paws and even the people
Speaker 3: that's braiding like that was that was a deep, really
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Speaker 3: being impacted by everything. Like right, it's at some point
Speaker 3: you I see where you get this German fold because
Speaker 3: once they start telling you this and now you're gonna
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Speaker 3: Gotta some stuff, man, she comes bere and give she
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Speaker 3: I don't get it today, and it's it's pretty much
Speaker 3: on target with a lot of the stuff we've been
Speaker 3: talking about today. You know, we are in very serious
Speaker 3: times and I just don't understand why people don't realize that.
Speaker 2: Right when we look at.
Speaker 3: Trump and shout out to Jolly, you know last week's show,
Speaker 3: and he was talking about how serious and it's not games,
Speaker 3: not fear mongering, how this is really happening. Right, And
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a person that likes to study history, and
Speaker 3: I've been looking at fascism, and I've been looking at dictatorship,
Speaker 3: and I've been looking at how these authoritarian governments were
Speaker 3: actually established. Right, So because when people were saying that,
Speaker 3: to me, what is fashion?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What does dictator? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: And then you look at the Hitler regime, right, you
Speaker 3: look at the Nazis and what they did and how
Speaker 3: they had a very clear strategy that Trump is sharing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: They made people lose faith in government, right, they said,
Speaker 3: this government is not doing this for you, and I.
Speaker 2: Can do it. And he made you feel like he
Speaker 2: was the person that was able to save you. Right.
Speaker 3: He focused on the Germans and said, look, this is
Speaker 3: what the Jews are doing, right, and we need to
Speaker 3: fight back. They're doing this to you. These who are
Speaker 3: invading our country. These people are doing these These people
Speaker 3: are the enemy, and I'm praying for the little guy
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna make Germany greater. Like these are the
Speaker 3: same phrases that he used, you know, And what starts
Speaker 3: happening is those who don't feel like they're impacted or
Speaker 3: think it's just fear. Migrant is just government, it's the
Speaker 3: regular thing, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2: They just they're black.
Speaker 3: People that're just like, this is nothing happening, and they
Speaker 3: just kidnapping people off the streets. Like two days ago,
Speaker 3: I'm watching a little girl in handcuffs. Right as Ice
Speaker 3: comes to elementary schools. They're literally arresting people with no
Speaker 3: charges and shipping them to El Salvado to pretty much concentrate.
Speaker 4: Whatever they got some places here where they're keeping them
Speaker 4: and detaining entertain them.
Speaker 2: And they have no charge.
Speaker 3: Like, people don't understand how seriousness is when when you
Speaker 3: can look at when the president is looking at the
Speaker 3: Constitution and telling the Supreme Court, I don't have to
Speaker 3: follow you, right, and they made a decision that they're
Speaker 3: not even gonna follow the law. There's no checks and balances.
Speaker 3: That is supreme rule. That means that the people have
Speaker 3: no say over how the government is being rtten. This
Speaker 3: is exactly what Hitler did. He completely disenfranchised, He eliminated
Speaker 3: anything that would give a check and balance of what
Speaker 3: he was doing. And this is what Trump is doing.
Speaker 3: So as we look at this situation, I remember in
Speaker 3: the movie Origin that Avid I think she released it.
Speaker 2: Did she direct the movie?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, it's her movie, and it was it was it
Speaker 5: broke down how racism and casts go hand in hand, right,
Speaker 5: and how in the cast.
Speaker 3: System is what they did to villainize an enslave and
Speaker 3: commit genocide against the.
Speaker 2: Jewish people in Germany.
Speaker 3: And there's one scene where it's in the bathroom and
Speaker 3: there's there's a couple, you know, the man is a German,
Speaker 3: I think he might have been soldier and a woman is.
Speaker 2: A Jewish woman who could pass, who could pass.
Speaker 3: You know, and she's in the bathroom and people are
Speaker 3: walking in to the bathroom saying, hey, are they rounding
Speaker 3: up Jewish people?
Speaker 2: I think they're around up Jewish people. And then people are.
Speaker 4: Just because the women are like in there.
Speaker 3: But this young lady, she she was aware because she
Speaker 3: had been paying attention, you know. I think because a
Speaker 3: man was a German. I think he was a German
Speaker 3: soldier and he was pretty much trying to protect her
Speaker 3: and made her aware was going on. So when she
Speaker 3: heard that she was she was looking around like what
Speaker 3: But there were so many people who were just oblivious,
Speaker 3: like this is not And then and then later on
Speaker 3: you see these same people in concentration camps, and I
Speaker 3: think it was to tell you how we are not
Speaker 3: really identifying the seriousness of this moment. I think that
Speaker 3: people are just they And then you have these social
Speaker 3: media bots and you have people that say, oh you
Speaker 3: you people just fear mongering. It's nothing, No, there is
Speaker 3: something going on. When people can be kidnapped, When when
Speaker 3: when the president can sit in the White House with
Speaker 3: the president of another country.
Speaker 2: That human rights abuses and.
Speaker 3: Then tells you, hey, nobody's going to send him back.
Speaker 3: He's not going back. The courts are saying, of course,
Speaker 3: and you and he's looking at hey, it's nothing I
Speaker 3: could do. And they just playing this game in front
Speaker 3: of the American people's face, like I don't care about
Speaker 3: what y'all think, I don't care about this man and
Speaker 3: his family. I don't care that we sent the wrong
Speaker 3: man to a foreign country as a criminal that wasn't
Speaker 3: a criminal.
Speaker 1: I don't care that they have improved.
Speaker 2: Level of due process.
Speaker 3: The fact that you can you can look at somebody
Speaker 3: and say they have a tattoo and you can call
Speaker 3: them a criminal based.
Speaker 2: Off that, it's crazy to me. It's it's just unrealistic
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: And the fact that we are not taking it serious
Speaker 3: enough and we're watching the fall of democracy, that any
Speaker 3: sense pseudo democracs, any sense of what democracy look like,
Speaker 3: it's actually falling by the waistline. And there are people
Speaker 3: who are just saying, ain't nothing happening to me? Is
Speaker 3: just it's just regular, and that's what they support. That's
Speaker 3: what they want you to think. They want you to
Speaker 3: think it's just regular and everything. You know, you've been
Speaker 3: sold for cheap. Today they just announced how now people
Speaker 3: are gonna have to start paying back these loans and
Speaker 3: they're gonna start garnishing wages, you know, because now the
Speaker 3: school loans.
Speaker 4: Oh, you got some people, some of your friends that
Speaker 4: love that. They don't want nobody else to have nothing
Speaker 4: they don't get but that's crazy.
Speaker 3: So that means the mind state for me is that
Speaker 3: you're willing to burn down the country and burn down
Speaker 3: everything because one of two things you don't like, like
Speaker 3: you're gonna give you would give the rings to somebody
Speaker 3: that said I'm going to go in and slaughter everybody
Speaker 3: because you like that the pipes in the building is
Speaker 3: not good.
Speaker 2: And super super and then fixed the pipes.
Speaker 3: So you said we're gonna burn the building now, like
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Why were we not?
Speaker 4: But it's not even burning the building down because they're
Speaker 4: not trying to really burn the building down.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to.
Speaker 4: Strip it so that they can take over the building
Speaker 4: and have a hierarchy that.
Speaker 1: You might be able to live in the basement.
Speaker 4: No I know, but I'm saying they're not even they
Speaker 4: think that they are part of Oh, they're burning it down,
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: Recreate and rebuild.
Speaker 4: That's not what's happening. What they're doing is burning you
Speaker 4: out of your party. And maybe you could stay in
Speaker 4: the basement if you're willing to clean the building. Because
Speaker 4: they're moving in with their strategies and what they call
Speaker 4: making America great again.
Speaker 1: And I will say this and and and and really you've.
Speaker 4: Said so much that's so powerful, mice so powerful, and
Speaker 4: it just makes me so proud to really see how
Speaker 4: much like you get it right. But a lot of
Speaker 4: times people like the bully because either they were bullied
Speaker 4: or they they were a bully. But that was on
Speaker 4: the college campus maybe, or the high school school yard,
Speaker 4: maybe in elementary school. Now we're talking about a nation
Speaker 4: that you like, you attracted to Donald Trump being this
Speaker 4: bully because you feel like this is what makes you
Speaker 4: feel better about whoever knocked.
Speaker 1: You over your head when you were a child. And
Speaker 1: this is real serious stuff.
Speaker 4: And I laugh all the time that black people still
Speaker 4: gonna do our boots on the ground dance. We're gonna
Speaker 4: learn how to do it. I'm still trying to learn
Speaker 4: how to do it. And you know, we gonna still
Speaker 4: find ways to have joy. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: take that away from anybody. But it's really not funny.
Speaker 4: It's really not funny because those women that were in
Speaker 4: that bathroom, most of them were not Jewish, they were
Speaker 4: most of those women were actually German. There was only
Speaker 4: probably one or two in this particular woman she was
Speaker 4: ended up being killed than a firing squad, with her
Speaker 4: children and her German husband who tried to protect her.
Speaker 1: And so she's in there and she hears them talking
Speaker 1: and she.
Speaker 4: Never reveals herself, but she knows that, oh shit, something's happening.
Speaker 4: But those women were out there dancing and partying, and
Speaker 4: they were in the bathroom freshening up. They were in
Speaker 4: their version of the Boots on the Ground dance. They
Speaker 4: was in there doing one two step. You know, we
Speaker 4: having a good time. So while everybody is saying, hey,
Speaker 4: are they rounding up the Jews? Are they getting ready
Speaker 4: to put people in concentration camps and kill the's a
Speaker 4: get a phone that we in here just enjoying ourselves.
Speaker 1: And when we look around, what they do to one,
Speaker 1: they will do to the other.
Speaker 4: Because when they say they hate a group of people,
Speaker 4: they don't say it, but they show it. They don't
Speaker 4: like the immigrants. Don't you worry, It's coming around the
Speaker 4: corner for you. It's coming around right now. They are
Speaker 4: not even telling you the numbers in terms of the
Speaker 4: black folks who have been fired from their federal jobs.
Speaker 1: They're not even telling you the numbers.
Speaker 4: And we have been disproportionately impacted by the loss of
Speaker 4: weight work.
Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, just as the heads of.
Speaker 4: All the labor unions who are now trying to fight
Speaker 4: some and suing doing lawsuits, the Legal Defense Fund and
Speaker 4: others who are pushing back to try to get these
Speaker 4: folks back to work. I mean, boots on the ground
Speaker 4: if you want. And I'm not telling you not to
Speaker 4: do it, because I'm a learning but.
Speaker 2: Just know, just know it's gonna be in your ass
Speaker 2: and yours.
Speaker 4: They got it in our hair. They trying to kill us.
Speaker 4: We better pay attention. And okay, let me be quiet,
Speaker 4: because I was about to say a conspiracy theory that
Speaker 4: might get me in trouble. But I tell you what,
Speaker 4: we better be careful what people are trading back over
Speaker 4: here from all around the world once they get mad,
Speaker 4: because we don't know we already they put it. The
Speaker 4: toxins is going in our hair, and that is not
Speaker 4: something that I don't want to spread a conspiracy on that.
Speaker 4: But I'm just telling you while we're pissing people off.
Speaker 3: Warn't there's no way that you can be successful when
Speaker 3: you don't have allies. When you've made your allies, your enemies. Right,
Speaker 3: when people don't trust you, it's just unreal. When no
Speaker 3: country trusts you because you haven't proven you have proven
Speaker 3: that you're untrustworthy, that you will say anything and do
Speaker 3: something different. Right when people see that, then there's no
Speaker 3: trust in you. So what happens is all of these
Speaker 3: people that our enemies start joining against you and they
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how do we eliminate you.
Speaker 2: And when they talk about you, we talked about us
Speaker 2: because we live here.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much y'all understand where we
Speaker 3: are the situation that we're in, but you better start
Speaker 3: paying attention. And with that said, it's the end of
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika the marriage and
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 3: Always be wrong, but we will both always and I
Speaker 3: mean always, be authentic.
Speaker 2: That's how we