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Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D.

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Speaker 2: Mallory and it shit Boy my son in general.

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Speaker 1: We are your host of TMI.

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Speaker 3: Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, motivation and inspiration.

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Speaker 1: Name new Energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Good, Actively Black, Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 1: I love the activity.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's.

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Speaker 1: That's how things.

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Speaker 4: And I can't even say anything because you put me

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Speaker 4: on and you was telling me you need.

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Speaker 1: To be and I was like, Okay, I got to

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Speaker 1: get that's right. I love actively black. That's our people.

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Speaker 4: So the State of the People Power Tour is in progress.

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Speaker 4: And you know, for people who don't know, the State

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Speaker 4: of the People Power Tour is an effort that came

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Speaker 4: out of the State of the People twenty four hour

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Speaker 4: marathon that ran at the same time that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: was intending to do his what he did his State

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Speaker 4: of the Union address. We said, they're gonna be lying

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Speaker 4: and fear mongering and hate throwing. It's so funny because

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Speaker 4: anyway else say they said, that's what we said. That's

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Speaker 4: what they're gonna be doing over here. We are going

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Speaker 4: to be organizing, educating, in forming our people and you know,

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Speaker 4: coming together in community. And I just really have to

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Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to the entire State of

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Speaker 4: the People family because it is certainly a labor of love.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are involved and working twenty four

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Speaker 4: hours a day under the guidance of our drill Sergeant Captain,

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Speaker 4: which is Angela Rye, who has been keeping us going

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Speaker 4: from day to day. Angela absolutely we have to have

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Speaker 4: her on to talk about, you know what we have

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Speaker 4: been able to accomplish as a team, and she's really

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Speaker 4: really committed to keeping us on tasks, making sure it

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Speaker 4: doesn't fall apart that people don't be like, oh, I'm busy,

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Speaker 4: I got this going on. You know how we do

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Speaker 4: it always takes somebody to drive the mission, and she

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Speaker 4: definitely is taken on that role. And I know how

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Speaker 4: hard it is because as you know, I often am

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Speaker 4: in that role and you know, it gets to be

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Speaker 4: really difficult.

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Speaker 1: But the State of the People.

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Speaker 4: Power Tour is now a tour across the country that

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Speaker 4: really is designed to examine our power right which we

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Speaker 4: know we have people locally have been doing work for

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Speaker 4: a law.

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Speaker 1: They've never been able to depend on systems.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who's in office, Democrats, Republicans, whoever. It

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Speaker 4: is maybe in their local town, it might be an

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Speaker 4: independent they still have to have systems in place to

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Speaker 4: ensure that the Black community specifically and of course other

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Speaker 4: vulnerable populations. But this is about black folks that they

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Speaker 4: can survive sustainability. And we have never ever been able

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Speaker 4: to rely on the government to do everything that's necessary

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Speaker 4: on a hyper hyper hyper local level.

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Speaker 1: For our communities.

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Speaker 4: Now you have some people who get in charge and

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Speaker 4: they make things worse, and some people who marginally or

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Speaker 4: incrementally make things better or at least they don't do

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Speaker 4: much harm to our communities. And that's kind of where

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Speaker 4: we find ourselves. And I respect that there are people

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Speaker 4: who are just tired of participating in that cycle. So

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Speaker 4: the State of the People Power Tour is not about

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Speaker 4: who you're voting for. It isn't about that. Now for

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Speaker 4: some people locally, it is for them because they have

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Speaker 4: people that they got, you know, running for office, and

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Speaker 4: you know, people who they believe are better for their communities.

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Speaker 1: And that's fine.

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Speaker 4: We're not in any way in charge of at This

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Speaker 4: tour is not endorsing any particular candidates.

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Speaker 1: This tour is not about that. It is really about.

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Speaker 4: Building power and being in community with our people traveling

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Speaker 4: the country, meeting folks who have solutions, because again, these

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Speaker 4: people have been doing this work. They're like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: we know this is pretty terrible everything that's happened in

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Speaker 4: this country. But over here we have farmers' market, so

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Speaker 4: that we've created, community senses, anti violence programs, ways to

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Speaker 4: Some of them we know, others we're meeting in this

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Speaker 4: All these different organizations have so many people, so building

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Speaker 4: so they've either lost their jobs. It's a lot of

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Speaker 4: certainly calling us behind the scenes, saying they're threatening us,

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Speaker 1: You know, these things are happening.

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Speaker 4: You got people who work for the federal government that

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Speaker 4: are being terminated.

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Speaker 1: You got folks who are feeling it and they know.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of times, because of the lawsuits, they're

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Speaker 4: always telling you don't talk too much about it because

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Speaker 4: get you reinstated, to get the federal workers back.

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Speaker 1: So, but there are a lot of people who are afraid.

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Speaker 4: There's some people none of that's happened to They just

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Speaker 4: sitting back watching and they're saying, what in the hell

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid.

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Speaker 4: I'm scared, and we don't want our people to be

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Speaker 1: Dark dark is a better way to describe it.

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Speaker 4: No, we're still active, we're still organizing, we're still meeting,

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Speaker 4: we're still strategizing, and I think I love this.

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Speaker 1: Angela says that this tour is a love.

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Speaker 4: Letter to black people that were still here and we're

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Speaker 4: with you, and you are with us, and we're in

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Speaker 4: this together. And when I think about the people who

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Speaker 4: I do not even want to get in trouble by

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Speaker 4: naming the folks, but I do suggest that people go

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Speaker 4: to STATEOFTHEPPL dot com, that state OFTTHEPPL dot com where

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Speaker 4: you can learn more about those folks who are engaged,

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Speaker 4: people who are organizing. And you know, many of you

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Speaker 4: see more and more black people saying I'm in, I'm in,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna participate somehow in this tour. And so it's

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Speaker 4: ten cities, which is the initial part of the tour.

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Speaker 4: There's to be more to be done afterwards everywhere we've

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Speaker 4: already kicked off in Atlanta, also North Carolina and moving

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Speaker 4: Dina specifically going to Detroit, Michigan, and you know, doing

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Speaker 4: some impactful work. And I know they have more places,

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Speaker 4: which our organization Until Freedom is really engaged in those

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Speaker 4: two cities and a lot of people, people with all

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Speaker 4: different skills and backgrounds. That's what I love on one

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Speaker 4: thing about trauma. When your community or when we get

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Speaker 4: figure out how to come together. And what I love

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Speaker 4: about the State of the People Power Tour is that

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Speaker 4: you have people working together who are like blona fide grass.

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Speaker 1: Roots, down to the ground activists.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the ones that you see them and

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Speaker 4: they you will never see them in a room with

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Speaker 4: other people. But then you also have folks who are

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Speaker 4: let's be clear, you know, talented tenth whatever that means.

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Speaker 4: I don't I take that back, that's not even a thing.

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Speaker 4: But people who may see themselves to.

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Speaker 1: Be very elite and and and and.

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Speaker 4: Their work, the black bougeoisie, I don't know, they don't

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Speaker 2: They don't like being quoted.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying the grassroots will normally considered the big

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Speaker 3: understanding that we need each other.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: We're at a time in history where all people black,

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Speaker 3: old people in marginalized communities really realize.

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Speaker 1: How all people realize.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying the majority people realize the times

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Speaker 3: see what's happening is this those who have experienced the

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Speaker 3: I think this is one of those steps in which

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what's always been an issue. You know,

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Speaker 3: we all have our individual and say, well, me and

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Speaker 3: my people we need this. What do we all need

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Speaker 3: collectively that we can have So it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 3: and then we could create our own candidates, right because

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Speaker 3: now we have a prototype of what it is.

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Speaker 2: So we actually growing our own candidates.

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Speaker 3: We're growing our own electiveficiers because now we have a

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Speaker 3: blueprint of exactly what we want. We're sending our kids

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Speaker 3: And that's what it's gonna take. It's gonna take a

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Speaker 3: very nuanced, complex, multi you know, intersectional movement for us,

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Speaker 3: Then he appeals to the white supremacists who want who

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Speaker 2: Because if it's a plan for black and America, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And sit around. It should be hundreds, not thousands of

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Speaker 4: So the hints the target boycott. From day one, we've

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Speaker 1: Where is have you seen Elon in Alaska? I ain't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Stopt, we know three card Malli.

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Speaker 4: Your your attention deficit disorder can just take you spiraling

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Speaker 4: It took the courage of one to stand up, and

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Speaker 4: meet with the business owners or the people the community.

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00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 4: And you want to meet now, maybe you should have

441
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: met before, but you would have had to respect your

442
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 4: consumer base and respect the people who actually are helping

443
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: to keep your company in one of the top whatever

444
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 4: number they are of those big box brands.

445
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: So for me, it just.

446
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: Reminds me and it underscores that we are on the

447
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: right issues. That if you are a company who has

448
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: decided that you want to stand with those or at

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: least try to somehow seem like you're on the same

450
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 4: page with this administration's racism, bigotry and oppression suppression of people.

451
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: We have the right to say, we don't even need

452
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: to argue with you. Let's just take our little stuff,

453
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: our little bit of court.

454
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: You don't need.

455
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: You didn't even need it. You didn't even need it.

456
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: So simple thought of the day is, it takes the

457
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: courage of one, and it takes the sometimes a precise

458
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 4: battle to be able to spread to others, to one.

459
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: Alert them we're not playing and.

460
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 4: Two show us the power of what we can do

461
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: when we come together.

462
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: Boycott Target, Boycott Target because Target is boycotting out.

463
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We just we just following suit. Man.

464
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: You don't want us, you know what I'm saying.

465
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: We get it, man, You made you said, look, I'm

466
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: breaking up with you, and we said we know.

467
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: They said we're breaking up, but we still got some

468
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: stuff for you. But it just we can't tell it.

469
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: They just want to have sex with you. They don't

470
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: want to go with you. See, they don't want to

471
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: go with you no more, but they want to call

472
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: you a little booty call.

473
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: Here my time.

474
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: Forget it.

475
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: You can't get none of this. Now you realize that

476
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: you've got that. We had that good good and you're like,

477
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: damn man, what we're going to do?

478
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you for.

479
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: No more booty called down up, break up with us

480
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: in the daytime and try to get a little bit

481
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: of at nighttime.

482
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna work, man, So we on you.

483
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Terrble moving right long? Do you have to see your

484
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: minde for today? Are people still doing too much?

485
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: People are doing way way too much.

486
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is too much right because

487
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 3: you know Trump's tariffs they have to like two hundred

488
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: and forty five percenting against China, and so we, I mean, this.

489
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: Is like not even making sense the word we're from.

490
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: We're in the tariff war with a country, a nation

491
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: that we have allowed to outsource most of our things

492
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: with in hopes that now people in America saying, you

493
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: know what we're gonna We're just gonna build all the

494
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: things that they got and we're gonna find out. But

495
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: now what we're doing is we're eliminating the fact that

496
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 3: we have import export companies that are gonna be disenfranchised.

497
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: We have certain trucking businesses that they can go to

498
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: those docks to get through. All of these places that

499
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: have built their industries off the import export building business,

500
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: mainly going to China, are going to close down. So

501
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: the only thing you're doing is actually sacrifice it. You're

502
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: interchanging them, so it's not going to build anything, and

503
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna end the relationship with the country. But that's

504
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: not even the thing. Right now, China has said, okay,

505
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: so we a war. So what I'm gonna do is

506
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: let y'all know them the consumer dollar bags y'all paying

507
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: for they made right here in this little factory for

508
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: about thirty forty dollars and if you want them, we

509
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: can ship them to you personally. Since this is what

510
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: y'all want to do, we gonna let you know the

511
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: back is made in China and ain't made in whatever

512
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: you think it is. And we got them right here.

513
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: They charging you fivey ten thousand. We got them for

514
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: about fifty one hundred dollars.

515
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: Man want fifty hundred, They charging fifty hundred.

516
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: And they on every site letting you know this this

517
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: the game y'all want to play. They playing dirty? So

518
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: are they doing too much by exposing? Because I think

519
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: that people are stupid anyway, Yeah, y'all, y'all love to

520
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: spend more money because if it's saying costs more money,

521
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: y'all say, it's more value with So they let y'all

522
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: know that they be playing y'all, and some people won't

523
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: be like, I'm not buy it. And it's the same day.

524
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: This is this is how we have been conditioned to

525
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: just do bullshit. It's the same bag if somebody put

526
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: the same exact bag and they tell you this bag

527
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: right here it's five hundred dollars and this one is

528
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: fifty thousand. Some people will say, dont want that fifty

529
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: thousan fifty thousand dollars bag.

530
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: And you're gonna buy it.

531
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying to myself, is it even

532
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: gonna work? Because we so materialistic and we want to

533
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: have what's called high level fashion anyway, that want my

534
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 3: end high end and whatever it is high end fashion

535
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: anyway that people gonna still want to pay five thousand

536
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: dollars for the thirty dollars bag?

537
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: So are they doing too much? Are they wasting their time?

538
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: Is it gonna make sense?

539
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: Are we gonna fall for or we're gonna because listen

540
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: to me, China, let me get about ten twenties bag.

541
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: Because I know I can sell them here.

542
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: Now, but you can't sell them because the logo is

543
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 4: not going to be on them.

544
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: See that's the thing.

545
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: The reason why the bags cost more money is because

546
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: the people like Hermez is one that are trying to

547
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: put this information out about Hermez puts they first of all,

548
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: this is so crazy, which when I was watching the video,

549
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: I said.

550
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Who They said, China ships the product to Europe.

551
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: Europe puts the stamp and the serial number and all

552
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: the hardware on it that comes from this count from

553
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: from her meds and her ear maz and then they

554
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: send it over here to America.

555
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: So when they send it over here, they send it

556
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: from Europe.

557
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: So you think you get used some European stuff.

558
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: And really that's what China said.

559
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: Now did they go over here and they put it

560
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: made in Europe and then the shore.

561
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: They don't say made in Europe.

562
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: I think it might still say made in China, or

563
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: maybe it doesn't say it at all, because I'm imagine

564
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: they paid him a little more to take everything off

565
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: of it. I have to look because I am a victim.

566
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a victim. It's by choice. It's by choice.

567
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: It's my choice.

568
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: But I'm not a person that says, I'm not willing

569
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: to buy this fire one hundred dollars thing. I'd rather

570
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: the fifty thousand. I have all of it. I got something.

571
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: I don't have nothing fifty thousand, but I have all

572
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: of it. I have high end stuff supposed you know,

573
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: quote unquote with the logo, and I have things that

574
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: I value that are very good quality, that comes from

575
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: different people, and especially black folks, that cost something that

576
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: is much more reasonable.

577
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: So I'm across the spectrum.

578
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, however, I am one of those

579
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: people who have purchased things that are very expensive and

580
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: it came from this brand and that brand. So I'm

581
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: just saying that when target targeting, when China puts this

582
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: information out, it does make you sit back and be like,

583
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: this is very interesting. They send it to Europe, and

584
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: in Europe does yeah because you don't really care. You

585
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: will wear a little bit of name brand, but that.

586
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: Ain't your thing because I realized that somebody is jerking,

587
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: somebody is skimming and.

588
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Skin It's funny.

589
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: That was funny when you.

590
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: When you start selling clothes and you get into like fashion,

591
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: start realizing that you go downtown and people is buying

592
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: twenty three, they bring it up town they.

593
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Selling for two hundred.

594
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: So if that's just happening in that in the micro,

595
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: I know what these people is.

596
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: Making and how they doing it. So listen. Might be TAMN,

597
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: but might not be.

598
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: There's that, it might not be tr min. Maybe I

599
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: think it's it. I think people need to know.

600
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: This decision because there are people out here that kill

601
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: over this stuff and die over it.

602
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Work.

603
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: They whold life, won't buy nothing else before they get

604
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 4: whatever this thing is that has a symbol of status.

605
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: So but that that was you, That was a good one. Yeah,

606
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: that was very.

607
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: Now speaking of where folks are getting products and stuff, man,

608
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: I tell you they're trying to kill us.

609
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: This lady that is coming.

610
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: Up right now, our next guest is about to talk

611
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: about something that's really serious, like our health is at risk,

612
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: for people's greed, for people's lack of care, and again,

613
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that we're getting from other places

614
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: around the world, they really don't care if it's killing

615
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: black women and killing black people. And so we're about

616
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: to learn a little bit more about that. And like

617
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: I said, it's really personal for me because I'm one

618
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: of the individuals who needs needs the service that this

619
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: woman is coming up to talk about. So this conversation

620
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: that we're about to have is so serious. I don't

621
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: even know if we've ever talked about anything on this

622
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: show that's more serious than that than this.

623
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Because my health is at risk.

624
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: I love me some braids. Got to have some braids.

625
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: This is part of my lifestyle. And even when I

626
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 4: have my bundles in my head, there's braids under new

627
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: So there are literally braids in my hair probably three

628
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five day fifty what is it, three

629
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty by d about three hundred and sixty

630
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: days of the year I have braids in my head.

631
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: I just want everybody to understand because I only got

632
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: about five.

633
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Days of all through a whole year.

634
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: Of taking it out, maybe a night of letting it

635
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: just be free. But I keep my hair done. So

636
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. So we

637
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: have this sister who is here with us today, Kadija Doso,

638
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: who is the CEO and founder of Doso Beauty, and

639
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: that is a company that is the first clinically tested,

640
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: non toxic, hypoallergenic braiding hair and organic hair care brand on.

641
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: The market, the first.

642
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: That's what I'm taking A young beautiful woman who you

643
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: have been recognized by Forbes thirty Under thirty, Refinery twenty

644
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: nine and you name it. I think you also won

645
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 4: the competition with what's his name, Pharrell.

646
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're like.

647
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: Making headway, making headlines, one point eight million dollars in

648
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 4: sales and your company just started in twenty twenty four.

649
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: No, we started in twenty eighteen.

650
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: Oh, in twenty eighteen, Okay, But twenty twenty four is

651
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: when you begin to get the recognition. Yeah, got a

652
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: lot of recognition in twenty I mean in these past

653
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: two months we've jumped by eight hundred percent of sales. Okay,

654
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: So it's a lot happened in what you were saying,

655
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 4: the political dynamics are shifting people's focus towards black businesses. Then,

656
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: of course, health is a thing. And I love knowing

657
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: that you guys started in twenty eighteen because what that

658
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: consistently underscores for our young people and for other people

659
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: who think that this is the social media it pops

660
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 4: up and just happens.

661
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Era it doesn't.

662
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: People are building things for years before we see the

663
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: finished product and before you actually get the credit. So

664
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: you're saying that for six years you were moving around

665
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: and doing stuff, but you begin to get a focus

666
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: and the recognition in terms of headlines and whatnot in twenties.

667
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: So it took you six years twenty twenty.

668
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Four, it's definitely been a culmination. That's okay. Just you know,

669
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: because we deal with people every day.

670
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: Tomorrow you're supposed to be rich, Like they're like, no,

671
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: I just did it. Why ain't got the money because

672
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: you ain't put the work in. You got to struggle

673
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 3: before you could really strive. You don't understand. They don't

674
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: understand that that was a bar. So you got to

675
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: struggle before you can strive.

676
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 4: But I don't want to always struggle.

677
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: But the thing is, you're building a house, like you're

678
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: building something. There's a foundation right before you building foundation

679
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: is mud, is this and that, and you have to

680
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 3: make it solid so that they just it don't blow away.

681
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: It's like the Little Piggy's houses man, you know three

682
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: all of them had different houses. When you know when

683
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: they built it. That brick though, it's gonna last long.

684
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: So you just gotta understand what it is that you're doing.

685
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm saying we appreciate you because this

686
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: is this is the lessons that our kids need to

687
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: understand that there is a process, that it takes time,

688
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: because most of they just go on the internet and

689
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: they see people.

690
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: Go viral one day and somebody's viraling. You know, I

691
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 2: was popular.

692
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: I didn't even know. I woke up and I was

693
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: viraling out nos. But there are a lot of us

694
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: who had to do this brick by brick who had

695
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: to put the work in, you know, and there's a

696
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: story behind it.

697
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: And the thing, the thing that I.

698
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: Always tell people is those closest to the problem or

699
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: closest to the solution. Right, So when you you created

700
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: this out of something of reaction that you had to synthetic, kids,

701
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: plain how that happened.

702
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: Yes, So I was living here in New York and

703
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: I got my hair braided in Brooklyn and I had

704
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: a severe allergy creation. I mean there's something called dermatitis

705
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 4: bump so it's a little tiny bumps that you're like, ooh,

706
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: it's pulling.

707
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Or so it was actually the braiding hair.

708
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: I called myself being precautious by getting the clean therapy

709
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 4: like pre cleansed hair, pre treated hair. But the hair

710
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: is still super toxic. Most people don't notice, but braiding

711
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: hair includes lead, mercury, and a bunch of other carcinogens

712
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: that literally cause us cancer.

713
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Damn. What is VOCs is that?

714
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: So those are different compounded ingredients that help that they

715
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: basically help us to cause cancer.

716
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: You know.

717
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 4: So those different compounds and ingredients they are mixed together,

718
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 4: especially when you put other chemicals together, and the basis

719
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: of the connectulon fiber when they started to create it

720
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: in nineteen fifties something. It was built together, so it

721
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: can last longer, it can be shiny, it can take

722
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: to color, it can be flame retarded, heat resistance.

723
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: So basically, it's toxic chemicals.

724
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: Toxic chemicals. Okay, So Johnson and Johnson. I think about

725
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: our brother, attorney Benjamin Krump, who is suing Johnson and

726
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: Johnson because clearly the baby powder, the talcum and other

727
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: things were not good for us. I think Revlon is

728
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: one of the other companies as well. So we know

729
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: that there's a history of these toxins, specifically harming black folks,

730
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: which sometimes I wonder, like how why is it? Everything

731
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 4: it just escifically, so I don't understand. Yeah, I mean,

732
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: so how why is it that the end, I'm not

733
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: saying that there haven't been white folks, white women who

734
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: also use talcum powder and they got you know, what

735
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: do we get cistus and things like that cancer cause insists.

736
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, but we know the numbers are

737
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 4: not the same, and I just try to understand why

738
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: is it?

739
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Do you know?

740
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 4: Maybe you don't, maybe this is off topic, but do

741
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: you understand, like what is it that the products are

742
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: specifically bad for us as black people?

743
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: I think for me, honestly, you really got to take

744
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: a look at the ownership of the actual industry.

745
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: So most people don't know, but like almost eighty nine

746
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: percent of all ethnic hair care products are owned by

747
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: white and Korean men. Do you think that they researched

748
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: what might harm their own people and make sure that

749
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 4: it's not as prevalent in the product and they don't

750
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: care about the rest of the folks. I think they

751
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: care about time. I think they care about the speed,

752
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: how much money they can make off of it. But

753
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: as far as health is concerned, I think that's the

754
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: last part on their list.

755
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: No matter what.

756
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: I'm making it not to say, but who is really

757
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: getting braids? You know what I'm saying, the white girls.

758
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: Are using And I was talking about tau compowders.

759
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: So I'm all to Johnson and Johnson kind of you know,

760
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: just thinking about like Johnson and Johnson and Reblin there

761
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: is a specific impact for black women with those products,

762
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: black people with those products, and a lot of times

763
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: black men are impacted too because black men can get

764
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: cysts and you know, cancer cause and sist.

765
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: But never talk about it.

766
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: And that's why the death rates are so stark because

767
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: most of the men are not taking care of themselves

768
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: properly and not getting the proper checkups and all of that.

769
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: So by the time they're gone the research and the

770
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 4: process of treatment and all of that, it's too late,

771
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 4: you know. So it's so there's a lot of disparities there.

772
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: But I was specifically thinking about why some of those products,

773
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: all the toxins harm us the most. But to your point,

774
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: all of them, back to your point, across the board,

775
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: they're thinking about how to get these product make the

776
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: most that they can, so they want to spread it

777
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: as much as they can in which means you need

778
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: to put synthetic things. Let's go back to I learned

779
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: a little bit from New Jack City and juice not juice,

780
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 4: what's of belly and all of that that when people

781
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: making drugs they put products in it that makes it

782
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: look the same, but it's what is it lower quality

783
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: that stretches it out, Like we know, we saw them

784
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: cook it up, you know, bacon powder, bacon soda was

785
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: a part of that, right, and that so that that

786
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: so we know infence and all is now something that

787
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: is being used to stretch drugs and it's killing people.

788
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: So this is a problem, Like what is the FDA involved?

789
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. Like the other part is that there's.

790
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: No FDA regulation about around cosmetics, especially the ethnic hair

791
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: care products that are around there, so people can like

792
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: I had the allergic reaction. Again, it's said clean therapy,

793
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: it's said that it was pre cleansed.

794
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: But that's just marketing.

795
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: Anybody can can mock up a PDF on canvas and say, oh,

796
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna print this out and put it on the packaging.

797
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: Anybody can.

798
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: There's no regulation the braiding here that were using my

799
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: hair itching right now?

800
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm cratching. I wasn't even in

801
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: that engine.

802
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

803
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: So you're saying that there's no body. No. And by

804
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: the way, have you ever seen Painkillers? No? No?

805
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so you have to watch Painkiller. You have to

806
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 4: watch Painkillers on Netflix. God, we've been telling you about it.

807
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: But you find out at the end of this documentary

808
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: that the guy from the FDA who was continuously denying

809
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: the Percoset family, my line, my son their application over

810
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: some year, no no, because he knew that it was

811
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: addictive and harmful, and he was like, nah, this is

812
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: not good for people.

813
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: They met him somewhere.

814
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: It was this is a documentary painkiller, so they's supposed

815
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: to be true information here. They met him somewhere at

816
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: a conference or invited him to come and kind of

817
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: see up close and personal what they do. There was

818
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: a meeting in the hotel room. The next thing you know,

819
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: he a year later, he approves their patent and then.

820
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Quits the FDA and goes to work for.

821
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 5: Stop.

822
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: They paid him a lot of money.

823
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: The Sackler family, the Sacler family. That's crazy.

824
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 4: Okay, so the FDA don't even mean the thing, but

825
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: you're telling me there is no governing body.

826
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: There is no governing body.

827
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: So like, that's why it was important for us to

828
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: get our clinical trials because I wanted to make sure that, Okay,

829
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: my manufacturer wasn't just telling me, okay, this is non

830
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: toxic and hyper ologenic. I needed clinical trials to both

831
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 4: say that we are clinically tested non toxic and also

832
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 4: hyper ologenetic.

833
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: Wow, So what exact chemicals are there that causes like

834
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: these cancers?

835
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: Lead mercury and a bunch of again other carcentergens. The

836
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: biggest part about lead and mercury. As we know, like

837
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: if lead and mercury aren't in any of the food

838
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: items too much that we have we consume, it can

839
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: cause us to have really really like bad health concerns.

840
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: But those are just two of them.

841
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of PBBs and other VOCs like Tamika

842
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: mentioned that literally caused cancer. They also help to induce

843
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: other thyroid reactions as well too. Some people that have

844
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: fibroids as well too, they see flare ups. I have

845
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: so many friends, quite a few friends who are you know,

846
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: they have all of these different you know, feminine issues

847
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: that are you know, going on with their womb and

848
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: with cysts, and it actually makes it that worse, right,

849
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: because the thing about braids is it's not like you're

850
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: taking it on and taking it off. I'm keeping this

851
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: in for weeks at a time. My pores are open, right,

852
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: So whatever chemical that you sweat hair, I'm sweating, it's open.

853
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 4: Even coloring whatever, yes, color, Yes, it's color too, yeah, exactly,

854
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: so it's color the hair come.

855
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: From that we use for our braid in here.

856
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 4: Please don't tell me, don't you know you know where

857
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: I saw something somewhere like it's like terrible.

858
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

859
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: So mostly most of where everything else in this country

860
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: comes from is exactly.

861
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Where the braiding hair comes from.

862
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: So most of the braiding hair is made in China

863
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: but sold by Korean people.

864
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: So like there's this like whole I don't even know if.

865
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: Y'all, if y'all dig or peep and understand the hermes,

866
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 4: I mean, hermez, they don't.

867
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: The Chinese is feeling everything.

868
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: They said, actually you can get this from us for

869
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: twenty dollars two thousands, that's what they said.

870
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it showed you where is being made.

871
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: Okay, there sitting across from each other, like it's crazy.

872
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: So the Asian Empire is just like a crazy conglomerate. Like,

873
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: so you got Chinese people, they own restaurants and all

874
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 4: those things. We have Korean people right who are notoriously

875
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: known for opening up beauty supply stores. They have trade

876
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: agreements with China where they can if my manufacturer is

877
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: selling it to me for a dollar, they're gonna sell

878
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: it to them for opinion. So I'm paying, you know,

879
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: one hundred percent more than what they're gonna.

880
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: Sell it to their fellow Asian brethren, and people.

881
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: Talking about we shouldn't be doing business with each other.

882
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: And listen, we ain't got time. We don't got time

883
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: to do.

884
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: They don't.

885
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help you because my goal is this. If

886
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: you ain't got this right, we're gonna fix it.

887
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: That's right, We're gonna fix whatever you ain't right. I'm

888
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna fix it.

889
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: Bring my money to look.

890
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you messed up this time, but look this, and

891
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: once you show the need that you want to be better,

892
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: I'm invest in that.

893
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: And that's what we have to do as black people

894
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: because that's what they do.

895
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: And I don't know anybody who does not think that

896
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: every other ethnic group does. That is crazy, just because

897
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: they see each other as brother and sister. It's like

898
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: if my little brother is doing something, because why am

899
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: I not gonna invest in him, especially when I know

900
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: he got the skill set and the will to do it.

901
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to bet on him more than I'm gonna

902
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: make sure you get rich. I'm I'm making sure that

903
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm creating generational wealth. And and black people the only

904
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: people that don't want to and tell you, oh, I

905
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: ain't just doing it because you're black. I am I'm

906
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: gonna do it because you're black, and I don't want you.

907
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: To be confused. You black, you doing something and I

908
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: need it. I'm going to you.

909
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: I believe in it, just the be reality of the

910
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: situation and we have and we don't have to be ashamed.

911
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: To say that. Well.

912
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: I think the other thing that's interesting, and I saw

913
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 4: something earlier today was about nepotism, right, like in the

914
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: sense of not just like familial but cultural nepotism. Like

915
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with putting other black people.

916
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm awful. That's why I want That's why I want

917
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: to make sure that Lebron.

918
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: Said, and I got opportunity and when my son want

919
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 4: to play ball, you could play.

920
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but you need to be good when you get there. Yeah.

921
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: And if you not, then but I'm gonna give you.

922
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: The opportunity of opportunity.

923
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: Because even the thing is this right, because people try

924
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: to tell Bron he wasn't good, right, all right, It

925
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: started out he was having he was going through the things,

926
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: and he created his son. You're gonna be able to

927
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: mess up a little bit. We ain't just throwing you

928
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: up because I control this. I'm the face of this,

929
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: and I.

930
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Say, my son's gonna get something.

931
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna send him down to the other league,

932
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: and we're gonna let you get Don't worry about it.

933
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna get it.

934
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: Look you listen, they're gonna talk crazy about you. That's

935
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: will come with the game. But you're gonna have every opportunity. Now,

936
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: if you fuck this up, it's on you because I'm

937
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: giving you every and next to you know, he was

938
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 3: going to forty and thirty and they was old, Ron, Nah,

939
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't say that, because that's what you're supposed to

940
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: do to your son.

941
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: That's what we're supposed to do with our kids. We

942
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: gotta let them.

943
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm a soccer dad, So my son goes out there,

944
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: he might have a bad quarter, bad game, and I'm like,

945
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. And I'm near every game, so

946
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 3: the coach know that I'm here for my Sony, y'all

947
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that he get all the opportunities. I'm

948
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: ana scream at the top of my lung. I'm a

949
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: curse a the ref. I'm going to make him feel

950
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 3: so comfortable to be able to be one hundred percent

951
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: of hisself.

952
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: And that's what we're supposed to do his parents.

953
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're supposed to, right.

954
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: I mean, so since we support you, tell us some

955
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: more about your products.

956
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

957
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: So now you you have this product here that and

958
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: do people believe in you?

959
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: How?

960
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 4: Where do you think the click happened for folks starting

961
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: to support and respect your work? So I think it

962
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 4: was so funny enough. I conducted my clinical trials last

963
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 4: year well before, and Princeton reached out to me directly.

964
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: They found our brand and they were like, hey, we

965
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 4: could help to test your hair to make sure it's hyperolergenic.

966
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: I was always putting pressure on my manufacturer to.

967
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 4: Be like, yo, like, we got to make sure we

968
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: get testing, testing, testing for regulation, and so I decided

969
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: to do that way ahead of when the Consumer Report

970
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: just got released two months ago.

971
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Once the Consumer Report.

972
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: Got released, people kind of are like, oh, well, I

973
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: don't have an allergic reaction, so it doesn't matter now.

974
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: Since that got released and it showed the breakdown of

975
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: all of the top ten brands that has black women

976
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: in a choke hoole and has had us in a

977
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: choke hoal like expressions like shak and go like all

978
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: of those brands. The exposure was there. So now people

979
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: are like, no, I need to find an alternative. I

980
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: have to find an alternative. So that was the really

981
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: big peak for me. But the preparation is why we're

982
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: able to do what we do, and while we were

983
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: able to grow by eight hundred percent, right because I

984
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 4: have the supply chain, I have the background. A lot

985
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: of the other non toxic branding hair brands, they're all

986
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: sold out of stop and they can't restop for months

987
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: at a time. But I've already had great trade agreements

988
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: with ups with my manufacturer to be able to produce

989
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 4: and purchase orders once a week and to get in here. Question,

990
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: so what is what is it going to be? The pushback?

991
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: What are the hair braiders saying? So, like my the

992
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: person who braids my hair, certain hair you she won't

993
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: use right now, I don't she. I hope she knows.

994
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. She says pretty cleaned,

995
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: and she definitely tries to use quality of everything and

996
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: all of that. But she I'm sure she could be

997
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: educated as well on how we can do better.

998
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So I'm.

999
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: Sure I'm as soon as I called you gonna say

1000
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: what let me write it down? Let me see what

1001
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 4: you're talking about? Right, So I get that, but I'm

1002
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: sure there is there, there, there has been, and there

1003
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: always will be an excuse that we love white folks

1004
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 4: or anybody else folks stuff.

1005
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it. You've got to have so we'll.

1006
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 4: Say no, no, no, it doesn't work because it's splits

1007
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: and it doesn't do the thing right. And whatever is there?

1008
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: Have you heard some of that? Or you think that

1009
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: your product is just ready and there's no issue.

1010
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: No, no, there is a lot.

1011
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: There's a ton of braiders who I find myself having

1012
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: to educate and I've even created a community called the

1013
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: Braid Corner to give them more education about it because

1014
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 4: they would rather go purchase Expressions because they've been using

1015
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: Expressions for twenty years rather than trying a non toxic

1016
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: braiding hair brand that not only is this hair that

1017
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: they braiding in your hair causing you can't touching it all,

1018
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: you're touching it all day so you are now susceptible

1019
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: to those same things times.

1020
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: Ten because you're playing in the product all day long.

1021
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: Right, So for a lot of the braiders, right, what

1022
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: they do is they send their customers to come to

1023
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 4: us to purchase the hair directly, but we have a

1024
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: program where you only need to buy twelve in order

1025
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: to get thirty percent off, So it's not like it's

1026
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: super hard for you to do it. We're on other

1027
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: platforms where you can pay for your hair and your

1028
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: products that you need in net sixty terms without having

1029
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: you don't have to have stellar credit and you know,

1030
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: have a crazy trade line agreement because people don't want

1031
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: a lot of hair sitting around when they're working in

1032
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: a suite or they like because my braider every time

1033
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: I leave, she like, you want to take the left

1034
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: or right?

1035
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, man, no, not at all.

1036
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: And again it's a business acumen thing. So like I

1037
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 4: went to Hampton for undergrad and study business. The more

1038
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: and more i am speaking with braiders and I'm speaking

1039
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 4: with salnes, a lot of them just don't have the

1040
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: best business practices and understanding that every single product that

1041
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: you pay for is a part of your cost of

1042
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 4: good soul and so when you do throw that extra

1043
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: piece of hair away, you are literally throwing money away, right,

1044
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: So I think it's more so about educating people and

1045
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: then also right now they're putting the onus back onto

1046
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: the actual customers or the clients to get the hair,

1047
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: so that hair in your head is your hair, of course, yes, yes, okay,

1048
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: well I don't have to try your hair, so they

1049
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: a different type of technique or something that braiders need

1050
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: to be aware of when it comes to your hair

1051
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: to help them loop it around better, easier whatever.

1052
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you.

1053
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: Can use our braiding hair just like you wild. You

1054
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: can hot water set it. Oh talk about hot water.

1055
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: Tell me about the dipping process, because we thought I

1056
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 4: thought that was really you know, making it good.

1057
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, problematic, Yeah.

1058
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: It is, especially with the toxic braiding hair because you're

1059
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 4: admitting all of it.

1060
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: You ever see the water and it's super cloudy.

1061
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 4: That's a bunch of those chemicals coming off of the

1062
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: hair into the hot water. And so you can hot

1063
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 4: water set our braiding hair. You won't see white foam

1064
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: and all the stuff bubbling around because it's pre cleansed

1065
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: and pre treated already.

1066
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: Our hair is super soft. It's lightweight.

1067
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 4: You felt my hair already, and it's super like, it's

1068
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: super super soft. A little a lot, a little goes

1069
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: a long way. That's what I also say, is like

1070
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: our bundles are actually thicker and bigger than the regular

1071
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 4: braiding hair that's in the market.

1072
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: So really, if you want to get like medium not list,

1073
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: you can use two three bundle packs of our braiding hair.

1074
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: We also do have different lengths and colors too, so

1075
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: I thought it was super important for us to have

1076
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: a shorter length for you know, some of the kids

1077
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: as well as like sometimes you just don't want a

1078
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: bunch of long braids, you know. The knotless bob was

1079
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 4: a thing that has been trending, right, so like getting

1080
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: a shorter length. And then we do have our twenty

1081
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 4: eight inches which is our three bundle packs, and we

1082
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 4: have our thirty two inches, so I have our thirty

1083
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 4: two inches because I wanted it longer.

1084
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: What's the price point difference?

1085
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: So our three bundle pack is thirty dollars right now

1086
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: and our single packs are thirteen. So that's why it

1087
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: just makes sense to get too three bundle packs and

1088
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 4: you're good to go.

1089
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: Good, But what you got, oh you're going to ask.

1090
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: So being a black entrepreneur and working and having to

1091
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: sell you know, your products online and in different spaces,

1092
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: how is do you affecting you? Do you feel like

1093
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: it's affecting you? Do you feel like it's necessary.

1094
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1095
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I've been able to be the

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00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: product of twenty plus accelerated programs that were created and

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00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: curated for black entrepreneurs. So me being a part of

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 4: those programs, just like you mentioned earlier for Royal Williams

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00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: Black Ambition, I was the HBCU Grand Prize winner. If

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Speaker 4: there was not funding being poured into the foundation like

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00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 4: Black Ambition, then there would not be opportunity for me

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00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: to have money and capital to start and grow my business. Right,

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00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: So for me right now, I think I'm on the

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: other end of it, not looking to receive a bunch

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00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 4: of grants to get started, because we are doing well

1106
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: as far as revenue is concerned. But now it's like

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 4: me pouring back into our community, right and so giving

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00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 4: back to the community, employing other people that are within

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00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: our community, in my retail store, in my actual braiding

1110
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: salon in Philly, like being able to do those things.

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00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: And so I think that the other part that the

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: D and I issue I feel like and I come

1113
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: from corporate too, so I worked at a really big

1114
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: management consulting firm and I was a part of the

1115
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: DR program because again I'm the HBCU grad and recruit.

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00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: Oh you mean to tell me that you, as a

1117
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: black person, were in a dr program because you know,

1118
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 4: if you let the internet tell it, black people didn't

1119
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 4: get nothing from it, just all white women and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, So me as a black woman was a part

1122
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: of a really really good program that filtered in from

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Speaker 4: HBCU students. So they go to the Hamptons, the Howards,

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00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: the more houses, and they picked the best of the

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Speaker 4: best there to start.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 4: That was the That was the We've been trying to

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: tell people that we got to choose one thing or

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Speaker 4: the other. We're saying that it didn't benefit black folks,

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: but then we're saying we've got to support the black

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: businesses that are being impacted by either either it either

1132
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: was impacted or it wasn't exactly and it was though,

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: right because I think the other part is it we

1134
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: just talked about it, right, nepotism in a sense, right,

1135
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: but in a good way, right, Like, Hey, if we

1136
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: are disadvantaged people, and it's just like when you apply

1137
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 4: for a grant, if you are from a disadvantaged community,

1138
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: a marginalized community.

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00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: It's a part of me you can check that bot off.

1140
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 4: That means that I do need a leg up in

1141
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: order to get and have some sort of equal way

1142
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: for the counterpart to. All their dads are partners at

1143
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: the firm and they didn't even really have to apply,

1144
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: So yes, we need those programs. I think it's super

1145
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: important for all of the larger companies and firms to

1146
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: still have all of those recruitment programs. And the former

1147
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: job that I actually left, they actually just announced that

1148
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: they were stopping their DEI recruitment programs. So now I'm

1149
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: interested to see what consulting is going to look like,

1150
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 4: because if it's all going to be whitewashed, or I'm

1151
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: only recruited from all of the top schools that have

1152
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: all the legs up, there's no diversity in thought and

1153
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: in those rooms and all of the other really cool

1154
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 4: things that y'all need to provide to these clients that

1155
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: you're all making billions off of. You're not going to

1156
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to have those people in the rooms.

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: Now, well, honey, let the church.

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: You said it.

1159
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: Let the church say amen, Amen, and we appreciate you.

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: You are extremely knowledgeable, beautiful your product. I'm going to

1161
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 4: start using and talking about I can't wait to put

1162
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: it on my socials and tell the sisters. We leaving

1163
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 4: the other people and we go in to a black woman.

1164
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't have space,

1165
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 4: but I will find space to stockpile my braiding here

1166
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: so I can bring it with me whenever I go

1167
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: to get my hair braided. And you know, Kadiza listening

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00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: to you speaking on the diversity and he was the

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 4: one who said, we have to ask about diversity, and

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00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: I was like, well, maybe she doesn't want to talk

1171
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: about that, but to know that you actually have history

1172
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: and personal experience makes it so much better because you

1173
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: said something that is so key. You said because I

1174
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: was a part part of programs that were created in

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01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: the name of diversity, equity and inclusion. I was able

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 4: to get funding so that I could build and now

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Speaker 4: I am taking what I was able to accomplish and

1178
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 4: help and helping other people.

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01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 1: That has always been the.

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Speaker 4: Reason why diversity and equity and inclusion was established. That

1181
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: was why some of these companies were forced to do

1182
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: it because people.

1183
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: Called them out on not having it.

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Speaker 4: And yes, it's been infiltrated by white women in this

1185
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: group and we get that always happened.

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01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: They wear corn rolls.

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01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 4: You're trying to act like Kim Kardashian at some point

1188
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: started it. Okay, so we know, we know, we know

1189
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: that it's always infiltrated. What we should be asking for

1190
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 4: and what we should be demanding, is that you don't change.

1191
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: You don't take back diversity, equity, and inclusion. You make

1192
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: it better, you make it stronger, you.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: Add more elements to it to ensure that it impacts

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: the most vulnerable populations. But some of us are so

1195
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: crazy and we get caught up in I don't even

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Speaker 4: know whatever whatever they learned on the podcast somewhere that

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Speaker 4: you know, a YouTube that we don't need it, We

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Speaker 4: don't need it. So now what you're because you said

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Speaker 4: the nothing, I want to correct that you said.

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Speaker 1: You said, we don't know. We're interested to see what's

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna look like.

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Speaker 4: It's going to look like how it looked before, and

1203
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: how it looked before was white men were the leaders

1204
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: and made all had all the money, and the white

1205
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: women were their assistance, and black.

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Speaker 1: People worked in the kitchen, worked in.

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Speaker 4: You know, driver maybe and had these little jobs, which

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Speaker 4: is why they want immigrants to be moved because if

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Speaker 4: you have immigrants who are filling up some of those

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Speaker 4: spaces of doing a lot of the hard work, the

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Speaker 4: labor work, and then you have more black people becoming

1212
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: more educated and entrepreneurs. Now you got to deal with

1213
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Speaker 4: us on a level, and the immigrant into becoming a

1214
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: larger population. They're growing, they're having more children.

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Speaker 1: So now you got to you.

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Speaker 4: What happens is white folks are being called to the

1217
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 4: table that you can't have all of this pie for yourself.

1218
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: So they said, we got to readjust this thing so

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01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: we can make America great again. Don't play with us

1220
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 4: like we don't know what's going on. We should be

1221
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Speaker 4: fighting for not just diversity, equity and inclusion.

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Speaker 1: We want plus plus plus plus plum. Yes, so there's that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to say. Thank you for

1224
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: coming to my ted talk.

1225
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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, thank you for being here. Great. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you for having me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Anything that we left out that

1228
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Speaker 4: you need to say, how do people get it?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: So you guys can purchase our products directly on DOSO

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Speaker 4: Beauty dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's d O S S O B E A U

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Speaker 1: t y.

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Speaker 4: We are a top seller on Amazon as well too,

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Speaker 4: and you can find us on socials at do So Beauty.

1236
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 4: And then if you're in Philly, stop by our store

1237
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: or we have the doc Beauty Experience, which is the

1238
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: luxury hair breeding salon and also retail story as well too.

1239
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: Well there's that we need some product, yes, and some stuff.

1240
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: I got something for you too.

1241
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not listen because I don't get no raids,

1242
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: but I.

1243
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: Got some stuff for you all right now.

1244
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: My songs like whatever they say.

1245
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: And then I got some of our top selling whip shade.

1246
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: Look at.

1247
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: People.

1248
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: My customers will not let me stop. It's just correct.

1249
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 4: I have skin, skin, so it's for the skin, skin, hair,

1250
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: body face like that.

1251
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: I got something.

1252
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: I got something. I got our hair hair oil.

1253
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: You got little self.

1254
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: Okay, you got stopp y'all. We love gifts up here.

1255
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: Now they bringing gifts. This is what I'm talking about.

1256
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: You can come anytime, y'all giving me the space.

1257
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: I got to give y'all something.

1258
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: And welcome.

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01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: We appreciate, Welcome to come back. Welcome to you is

1260
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: our social media bring more gifts. If you need to

1261
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: post something, if you're doing a promo. Well, we say

1262
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 4: we want to help. What we mean is that how

1263
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: whatever resource we have, we want to offer it to you.

1264
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 4: So don't be hesitant to say, hey, can you guys

1265
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 4: post this thing or can you talk about it? Because

1266
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: I want to be able to say this is do

1267
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Speaker 4: soo my head.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I got you. Yeah, no, I would definitely, and

1269
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I pay the stuff. I don't need free product. Thank you,

1270
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: thank you for the person.

1271
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: I'm broke. So you know what I'm saying, I might

1272
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: give me.

1273
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: No, don't plan. You're under resource.

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: Then you want under resource, so I might need a

1275
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: discount about Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank you much love.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it all right. So now you get a

1278
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: bag and everybody gets a bag.

1279
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Speaker 3: That's a lot. It's a lot, especially when you but

1280
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: the way you about your head. I ain't never seen nobody.

1281
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: And you got braids in right now, so that is crazy.

1282
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: But good thing. She gave you a few bundles and

1283
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: you were gonna best right.

1284
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I'm in.

1285
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: Got to invest because it's about health. You know what

1286
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You want to look right, but it got

1287
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: to be healthy.

1288
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even understand. I mean not to understand.

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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize the way that she was saying

1291
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: that cancerous chemicals are inside head, how they get transferred

1292
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: and the sweating and the paws and even the people

1293
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: that's braiding like that was that was a deep, really

1294
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: deep conversation. We just don't understand how our health is

1295
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: being impacted by everything. Like right, it's at some point

1296
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 3: you I see where you get this German fold because

1297
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: once they start telling you this and now you're gonna

1298
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: be like, no, you can't do this here, like they

1299
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: don't they know. Oh my god, I don't even know

1300
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: what they did with you, because that's a whole nother

1301
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 3: thing that you're gonna be super super crazy about.

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Speaker 2: Now it's head. We gotta find out. You're gonna be

1303
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: reading the.

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Speaker 1: Ingredients and.

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: Carl Jennison's she said that they can put anything on

1306
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: the label and there's nobody that's actually terrifying this stuff

1307
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 4: because that.

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Speaker 2: You get tested. She said, you gotta get your stuff tested.

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01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, I trust hers Doso.

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Speaker 2: Beauty. Yes, got me a little skin cream, you know what, I.

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Speaker 3: Gotta some stuff, man, she comes bere and give she

1312
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: with me man, so well that brings me to my

1313
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: I don't get it today, and it's it's pretty much

1314
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: on target with a lot of the stuff we've been

1315
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: talking about today. You know, we are in very serious

1316
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,479
Speaker 3: times and I just don't understand why people don't realize that.

1317
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: Right when we look at.

1318
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: Trump and shout out to Jolly, you know last week's show,

1319
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: and he was talking about how serious and it's not games,

1320
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: not fear mongering, how this is really happening. Right, And

1321
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a person that likes to study history, and

1322
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: I've been looking at fascism, and I've been looking at dictatorship,

1323
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: and I've been looking at how these authoritarian governments were

1324
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: actually established. Right, So because when people were saying that,

1325
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: to me, what is fashion?

1326
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What does dictator? What does that mean?

1327
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: And then you look at the Hitler regime, right, you

1328
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: look at the Nazis and what they did and how

1329
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: they had a very clear strategy that Trump is sharing.

1330
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: Right.

1331
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: They made people lose faith in government, right, they said,

1332
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: this government is not doing this for you, and I.

1333
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: Can do it. And he made you feel like he

1334
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: was the person that was able to save you. Right.

1335
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: He focused on the Germans and said, look, this is

1336
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 3: what the Jews are doing, right, and we need to

1337
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 3: fight back. They're doing this to you. These who are

1338
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: invading our country. These people are doing these These people

1339
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 3: are the enemy, and I'm praying for the little guy

1340
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna make Germany greater. Like these are the

1341
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: same phrases that he used, you know, And what starts

1342
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: happening is those who don't feel like they're impacted or

1343
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: think it's just fear. Migrant is just government, it's the

1344
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: regular thing, you know, whatever.

1345
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: They just they're black.

1346
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 3: People that're just like, this is nothing happening, and they

1347
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: just kidnapping people off the streets. Like two days ago,

1348
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm watching a little girl in handcuffs. Right as Ice

1349
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 3: comes to elementary schools. They're literally arresting people with no

1350
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: charges and shipping them to El Salvado to pretty much concentrate.

1351
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 4: Whatever they got some places here where they're keeping them

1352
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 4: and detaining entertain them.

1353
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: And they have no charge.

1354
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: Like, people don't understand how seriousness is when when you

1355
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: can look at when the president is looking at the

1356
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: Constitution and telling the Supreme Court, I don't have to

1357
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: follow you, right, and they made a decision that they're

1358
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 3: not even gonna follow the law. There's no checks and balances.

1359
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 3: That is supreme rule. That means that the people have

1360
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: no say over how the government is being rtten. This

1361
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: is exactly what Hitler did. He completely disenfranchised, He eliminated

1362
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 3: anything that would give a check and balance of what

1363
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 3: he was doing. And this is what Trump is doing.

1364
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: So as we look at this situation, I remember in

1365
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: the movie Origin that Avid I think she released it.

1366
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: Did she direct the movie?

1367
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1368
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 5: No, it's her movie, and it was it was it

1369
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 5: broke down how racism and casts go hand in hand, right,

1370
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: and how in the cast.

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: System is what they did to villainize an enslave and

1372
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: commit genocide against the.

1373
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Jewish people in Germany.

1374
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 3: And there's one scene where it's in the bathroom and

1375
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: there's there's a couple, you know, the man is a German,

1376
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 3: I think he might have been soldier and a woman is.

1377
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 2: A Jewish woman who could pass, who could pass.

1378
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: You know, and she's in the bathroom and people are

1379
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 3: walking in to the bathroom saying, hey, are they rounding

1380
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: up Jewish people?

1381
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: I think they're around up Jewish people. And then people are.

1382
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 4: Just because the women are like in there.

1383
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 3: But this young lady, she she was aware because she

1384
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: had been paying attention, you know. I think because a

1385
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: man was a German. I think he was a German

1386
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: soldier and he was pretty much trying to protect her

1387
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: and made her aware was going on. So when she

1388
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: heard that she was she was looking around like what

1389
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 3: But there were so many people who were just oblivious,

1390
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 3: like this is not And then and then later on

1391
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 3: you see these same people in concentration camps, and I

1392
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 3: think it was to tell you how we are not

1393
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: really identifying the seriousness of this moment. I think that

1394
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: people are just they And then you have these social

1395
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: media bots and you have people that say, oh you

1396
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: you people just fear mongering. It's nothing, No, there is

1397
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: something going on. When people can be kidnapped, When when

1398
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 3: when the president can sit in the White House with

1399
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: the president of another country.

1400
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: That human rights abuses and.

1401
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 3: Then tells you, hey, nobody's going to send him back.

1402
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: He's not going back. The courts are saying, of course,

1403
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: and you and he's looking at hey, it's nothing I

1404
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: could do. And they just playing this game in front

1405
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: of the American people's face, like I don't care about

1406
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: what y'all think, I don't care about this man and

1407
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: his family. I don't care that we sent the wrong

1408
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: man to a foreign country as a criminal that wasn't

1409
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: a criminal.

1410
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't care that they have improved.

1411
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: Level of due process.

1412
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 3: The fact that you can you can look at somebody

1413
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 3: and say they have a tattoo and you can call

1414
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: them a criminal based.

1415
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 2: Off that, it's crazy to me. It's it's just unrealistic

1416
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: to me.

1417
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 3: And the fact that we are not taking it serious

1418
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 3: enough and we're watching the fall of democracy, that any

1419
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: sense pseudo democracs, any sense of what democracy look like,

1420
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 3: it's actually falling by the waistline. And there are people

1421
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 3: who are just saying, ain't nothing happening to me? Is

1422
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: just it's just regular, and that's what they support. That's

1423
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: what they want you to think. They want you to

1424
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: think it's just regular and everything. You know, you've been

1425
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: sold for cheap. Today they just announced how now people

1426
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: are gonna have to start paying back these loans and

1427
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna start garnishing wages, you know, because now the

1428
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 3: school loans.

1429
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh, you got some people, some of your friends that

1430
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 4: love that. They don't want nobody else to have nothing

1431
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 4: they don't get but that's crazy.

1432
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: So that means the mind state for me is that

1433
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: you're willing to burn down the country and burn down

1434
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: everything because one of two things you don't like, like

1435
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna give you would give the rings to somebody

1436
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: that said I'm going to go in and slaughter everybody

1437
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 3: because you like that the pipes in the building is

1438
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: not good.

1439
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: And super super and then fixed the pipes.

1440
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: So you said we're gonna burn the building now, like

1441
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense.

1442
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: Why were we not?

1443
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 4: But it's not even burning the building down because they're

1444
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 4: not trying to really burn the building down.

1445
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: They're just trying to.

1446
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 4: Strip it so that they can take over the building

1447
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: and have a hierarchy that.

1448
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: You might be able to live in the basement.

1449
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 4: No I know, but I'm saying they're not even they

1450
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 4: think that they are part of Oh, they're burning it down,

1451
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to.

1452
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: Recreate and rebuild.

1453
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 4: That's not what's happening. What they're doing is burning you

1454
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 4: out of your party. And maybe you could stay in

1455
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: the basement if you're willing to clean the building. Because

1456
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 4: they're moving in with their strategies and what they call

1457
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: making America great again.

1458
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: And I will say this and and and and really you've.

1459
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 4: Said so much that's so powerful, mice so powerful, and

1460
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 4: it just makes me so proud to really see how

1461
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 4: much like you get it right. But a lot of

1462
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 4: times people like the bully because either they were bullied

1463
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: or they they were a bully. But that was on

1464
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 4: the college campus maybe, or the high school school yard,

1465
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: maybe in elementary school. Now we're talking about a nation

1466
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 4: that you like, you attracted to Donald Trump being this

1467
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 4: bully because you feel like this is what makes you

1468
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: feel better about whoever knocked.

1469
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: You over your head when you were a child. And

1470
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: this is real serious stuff.

1471
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 4: And I laugh all the time that black people still

1472
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 4: gonna do our boots on the ground dance. We're gonna

1473
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: learn how to do it. I'm still trying to learn

1474
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 4: how to do it. And you know, we gonna still

1475
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 4: find ways to have joy. And I don't want to

1476
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 4: take that away from anybody. But it's really not funny.

1477
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 4: It's really not funny because those women that were in

1478
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 4: that bathroom, most of them were not Jewish, they were

1479
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 4: most of those women were actually German. There was only

1480
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: probably one or two in this particular woman she was

1481
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 4: ended up being killed than a firing squad, with her

1482
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 4: children and her German husband who tried to protect her.

1483
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: And so she's in there and she hears them talking

1484
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: and she.

1485
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 4: Never reveals herself, but she knows that, oh shit, something's happening.

1486
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 4: But those women were out there dancing and partying, and

1487
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 4: they were in the bathroom freshening up. They were in

1488
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: their version of the Boots on the Ground dance. They

1489
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: was in there doing one two step. You know, we

1490
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 4: having a good time. So while everybody is saying, hey,

1491
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 4: are they rounding up the Jews? Are they getting ready

1492
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: to put people in concentration camps and kill the's a

1493
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,480
Speaker 4: get a phone that we in here just enjoying ourselves.

1494
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: And when we look around, what they do to one,

1495
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: they will do to the other.

1496
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 4: Because when they say they hate a group of people,

1497
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 4: they don't say it, but they show it. They don't

1498
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 4: like the immigrants. Don't you worry, It's coming around the

1499
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: corner for you. It's coming around right now. They are

1500
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 4: not even telling you the numbers in terms of the

1501
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 4: black folks who have been fired from their federal jobs.

1502
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: They're not even telling you the numbers.

1503
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 4: And we have been disproportionately impacted by the loss of

1504
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 4: weight work.

1505
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, just as the heads of.

1506
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 4: All the labor unions who are now trying to fight

1507
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 4: some and suing doing lawsuits, the Legal Defense Fund and

1508
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 4: others who are pushing back to try to get these

1509
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 4: folks back to work. I mean, boots on the ground

1510
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 4: if you want. And I'm not telling you not to

1511
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 4: do it, because I'm a learning but.

1512
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: Just know, just know it's gonna be in your ass

1513
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: and yours.

1514
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 4: They got it in our hair. They trying to kill us.

1515
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 4: We better pay attention. And okay, let me be quiet,

1516
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: because I was about to say a conspiracy theory that

1517
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 4: might get me in trouble. But I tell you what,

1518
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 4: we better be careful what people are trading back over

1519
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 4: here from all around the world once they get mad,

1520
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: because we don't know we already they put it. The

1521
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 4: toxins is going in our hair, and that is not

1522
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: something that I don't want to spread a conspiracy on that.

1523
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 4: But I'm just telling you while we're pissing people off.

1524
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: Warn't there's no way that you can be successful when

1525
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: you don't have allies. When you've made your allies, your enemies. Right,

1526
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: when people don't trust you, it's just unreal. When no

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Speaker 3: country trusts you because you haven't proven you have proven

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Speaker 3: that you're untrustworthy, that you will say anything and do

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Speaker 3: something different. Right when people see that, then there's no

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Speaker 3: trust in you. So what happens is all of these

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: people that our enemies start joining against you and they

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how do we eliminate you.

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Speaker 2: And when they talk about you, we talked about us

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Speaker 2: because we live here.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how much y'all understand where we

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01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 3: are the situation that we're in, but you better start

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Speaker 3: paying attention. And with that said, it's the end of

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Speaker 3: another episode. We appreciate y'all. TMI is the number one

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Speaker 3: podcast in the world at TMI, show PC on YouTube

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Speaker 3: at TMI Underscore a show on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika the marriage and

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 3: Always be wrong, but we will both always and I

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Speaker 3: mean always, be authentic.

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Speaker 2: That's how we