1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday, Dan and the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Dan n Stan Patrick Show. Great appearance by Dan Orlovsky 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: of The Mothership last hour. He brought it up. I 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: didn't ask. I said, as we were talking about the 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, you take the field or Kansas City, 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and he said, this is to win the Super Bowlue 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: goes oh, Kansas City not even close. And then he 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: brought up the fact that Travis Kelsey is the best 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: non quarterback player in the NFL. I like Travis Kelsey 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot, and I'd have to think about that for 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: a little while. But he said what he does prior 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: to just getting to the line of scrimmage, prior to 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the place starting, He's a matchup nightmare and that allows 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to do so much more. We'll bring back 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: some of those comments from Orlovsky a little bit later on. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: We'll have more on the big trade as Russell Westbrook 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: is sent to Washington and John wall Is sent to 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: the Rockets. We always love to grade a trade who 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: one now, well, who won now and who wins three 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: years from now. I'd still say Washington got Russell Westbrook. 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I like Russell Westbrook paired with Bradley Beale as long 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: as Bradley Beale is there more than I do John 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Wall paired with James Harden. I don't know how long 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Harden's going to be there. I don't know how long 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Bradley Beale is going to be in Washington. But the 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: fact that the Rockets did get a first round draft pick, 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: they gave up four to get Russell Westbrook Junior the third. 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Now they only get one and they get John Wall 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: who's coming off surgery. But we'll have more on that. 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Tim McMahon, the ESPN NBA reporter, will join us final hour. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: The Great Bill Walton will stop by as well. Phone 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: calls always welcome. We'll get to those. We got a 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: pull question or we're gonna stay with that poll question. 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Second hour. McLevin, Yeah, i'd sort of just put up 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: who'd he got the chiefs of the field. It's fifty 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: fifty early on. That's sort of a win for Kansas City, 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: isn't it. Oh? I thought it would be more because 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: it feels like there's flaws with everybody, and Kansas City's 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: flaws don't even compare to the Colds Flaws or the Titans, Flaws, Saints, 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Seattle, whoever you want to throw in there. 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: It feels like Kansas City is a more finished product 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers. And I'm not basing this off what I 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: saw yesterday because I still love the Steelers. But now 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: you've lost two impact defensive players. Bud Dupre's out with 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the torn Aco. It's a good defense at times, can 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: be a great defense, but you're saying everything has to 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: go right if you play Kansas City, if you're Pittsburgh. 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't want Ben thrown fifty times. I prefer that 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: he didn't throw fifty times. And if I'm going to 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: keep Patrick Mahomes off the field, when he gets on 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the field, I want to have an idea of what 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: he's going to do. And for the life of me, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: any defensive coordinator who is playing man coverage on Tyreek Hill, 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: the last thing I want is a deep play. You 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: know what really breaks your spirit is when you give 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: up that sixty yard play. If you want to dink 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and dunk, then I you know what it's. Do I 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: want the guillotine or do I want water torture. I'm 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: gonna take water torture with Patrick Mahomes, because I've seen 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: the guillotine and that is quick. It's swift, and it's over. 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I have you where 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: you may have a ten play drive, but I don't 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: want to give you fifteen more plays. I want to 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I want to limit the number of plays you have, 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that you have to 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: make something happen with those plays. Can Tennessee do this again? 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Can they control the clock? You know? Can you have 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill come up with a couple of big plays there? 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: I do believe they're capable of doing that. Can I 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: trust Philip Rivers in a big situation? Is that offense 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: balanced enough, the defense is good? You throw the Steelers 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: in there? Green Bay has flaws, Seattle has flaws. The 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Saints might be the best team in the NC. And 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about overall talent in the NFC. But yeah, 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I would take Kansas City there eight seven seven three 77 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: d P show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dps show. New original series Saved by 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: the Bell on Peacock. It's streaming now. Bayside is back 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: with new students, new stories, some very familiar faces. Starts 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: streaming Now. Lakers gave Lebron James a two year, eighty 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: five million dollar contract extension. Also, what happened prior to 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: the start of the show is Anthony Davis and the 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Lakers agreeing to a contract extension. It's a five year 85 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: deal worth one hundred and ninety million dollars. Lebron is 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: going to stay in the Purple and Goal through twenty 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty three. Now, it's a lot of money. I'm waiting 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: for the critics to come out and say, oh, why 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: did Lebron take all that money? Shouldn't he have taken less? 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Michael did well. Michael did early in his career, and 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: then the last two years, Michael was getting paid over 92 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year. Annie was making the Nike 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: money as well. Michael didn't have to take the money, 94 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: but he did. And it's about winning championships. Tom Brady 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: would have taken less money. He has taken less money. 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: I know how this is going to be spun. The 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Lakers are the favorites going into this season, and they're 98 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be the favorites probably for the next couple 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of years. It feels like Lebron got paid two years 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: eighty five million. There are players who make more than 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James does. Now you might go, well, he's gonna 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: make forty one forty two million dollars a year, so 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: did John Wall? Should John Wall taken lass money? It's 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: just going to be because this is Lebron James. Now, 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: if Lebron James looks at that roster and says, all right, 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: I want to get paid it feels like he's worth 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: more than that, then they're still going to be the 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: team to be. I don't begrudge you and whatever your 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: motives are, but Lebron knows, at the end of the day, 110 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: if he has six titles, then we have a conversation. 111 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: If he doesn't get to six titles, we don't have 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a conversation. And by a conversation, I'm talking about somebody 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: on the Jordan side of things engaging with you, because 114 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: right now, people on the Jordan bandwagon, they don't even 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: engage in this. They'll go, yeah, let me know when 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: he gets to six. Okay. That's why. If that's your logic, 117 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: I think it's like when Montana one four didn't lose, okay, 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: and then Brady passed him, but he'd still had more losses. 119 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Joe didn't lose his Super Bowl. Well, we just blew 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: through that stop sign. And Lebron is sort of like 121 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: Tom Brady in that standpoint because he's lost in the 122 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, lost more than he's won. But I still 123 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: think he deserves credit for getting there, and he rarely 124 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: gets that. But you know, this is similar situation of 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Jordan with the Bulls, And just like MJ, Lebron's team 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: salary is only part of his fortune. He's making a 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: whole lot of money off the floor as well. On 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: the court didn't have much of a drop off. At 129 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: age three five, Jordan started to have a drop off. 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Lebron could have been the mvpig reinvented his game once again. 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: He averaged over ten assists per game, and at this 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: point he picks and chooses his spots on defense, capable 133 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: of locking down an opponent making a big play. But 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: he's got a well rounded game and he's got a 135 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: well rounded team around him. But Lebron taking that money, 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure that somebody will have a problem with it. 137 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I just looked at it as what does this mean 138 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: for the team. Tom Brady wants to win Super Bowls? 139 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Did anybody say, well, should have taken less? 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes said, he took less, But it doesn't feel 141 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: like he took less for a five hundred million dollar contract. 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's going to be a bargain at 143 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: some point. Lebron's a bargain. I mean, even at forty 144 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: one forty two million dollars, how many players make more 145 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: than Lebron James does? Or will Lebron's making forty one 146 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: forty two that's the next two years, not this contract. 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Did anybody say, wow, Lebron, he's a bargain. When's the 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: last time you heard it? Le Bron's bargain? You haven't 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: how many players will make more money than Lebron James 150 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: this year? How many of those players are more valuable 151 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: to their team than Lebron James. But somehow, some way, 152 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: this will be spun in a negative way that Lebron 153 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: was greedy. I don't know. Did Anthony Davis take les? 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis wants to win championships right, I'm guessing he 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: does five for one ninety. Should he have taken Liz? 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Lebron he signed the two year 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: extension so he's got this year, two more years after that, Right, 158 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: we'll get to phone calls coming up, yes, part and 159 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: at least six NBA players and probably more will make 160 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: more than Lebron this year. But if you look at 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: the Lakers a year and a half ago, they're coming 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: off a season where they're thirty seven and forty five 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: and had missed the playoffs for the six consecut season. 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: Look where they are a year and a half later, 165 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: the overwhelming favorite to win the title, and they seem 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: to have added more good role players in the off season. 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: He's totally changed the franchise. Well, they got younger, and 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: then everybody talked about all Lebron doesn't get along with 169 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: these younger players. Well, younger players, Lebron is on a 170 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: time frame here, He's on a timetable and to wait 171 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: for them to be ready to play in a big moment, 172 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready for that. Do I think that he 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: went about it in the wrong way at times? Yes, 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I do. I think he should have been more of 175 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: a bigger brother to these players while they were still 176 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: in the Lakers, And it feels like it felt like 177 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Lebron was If I can pull the rip Cord and 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: get rid of these guys and make this trade for 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Then I'm going to and you know that's 180 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: eventually what happened there. But he knew what he needed 181 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: to win more championships, and even in the off season 182 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: they did. You know, Lebron should be up there for 183 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: GM of the year because he has to get those 184 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: guys to want to play, and who wouldn't want to 185 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: play with Lebron if he's going to be a facilitator 186 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: here And then to say to the front office, who 187 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: do we need? Who can we get? We need to 188 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: get a little younger. He doesn't want rookies in there, 189 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: like he's still waiting for Kyle Kuzman to grow up. 190 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: But if you get guys who've already played four or 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: five six years in the league, that's what he wants. 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: That's my love. Rondo. Rondo knew how to play the 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: game when the game really matters, not during the regular season, 194 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: during the postseason. And there is a difference in the 195 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: player you have in the postseason. Yes, well, that's so 196 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: interesting about the timing of all this, especially Lebron's deal, 197 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: is that you know a week or two ago they 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: reloaded and it was like, oh my god, look at 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: all of the signings they just had. This is incredible. 200 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: The Lakers are going to crush everybody if Lebron signs 201 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: this deal. Before those deals happen, all of those look 202 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: terrible from what perspective, meaning that he took all of 203 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the money, and then like this is the best they 204 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: could do. Okay, Okay, well yeah, but I mean like Lebron, 205 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis took all the money, so the 206 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: best they could do is because he took so much money, 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: I got to get Dennis Shrewder instead. They reloaded, and 208 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: then Lebron still ended up being the highest paid player 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: in NBA history. Yes, McLevin, I did the math, and 210 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: forty million. Lebron aspires to be a billionaire, and forty 211 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: million is a small fraction to that. So if you're 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: a Lebron and you wouldn't get killed for it, weren't 213 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: you forego your salary to bring in another superstar later on? 214 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Be like, I'll take a million dollars, because wouldn't you 215 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: buy a title for forty million dollars if it's only 216 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: one four hundredth of your Somehow, somehow, mclovin. It would 217 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: be spun that, Oh that's not fair what Lebron's doing, 218 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, because he's only taking one million dollars so 219 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: they can bring in the somehow, some way would be 220 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: a negative with Lebron or Tom Brady. Why doesn't Tom? 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: Why do you think veteran players have ever done that? 222 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: It seems like a pride thing where they don't want 223 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: to do that. Well Brady did. He spread out his 224 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: contract to help them. But see, Lebron has his say 225 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: and who they're bringing in. Brady didn't have a say 226 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: and who they were bringing in. He was saving them money, 227 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: but he wasn't making any decisions here. Yeah, Paul, the 228 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: NBA used to have max contracts. Now they have super 229 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: max contracts. I think every league should have one super 230 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: duper max contract and Lebron should be the first guy 231 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: to get it. Where the Lakers could give him a 232 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: chunk of the franchise, they could give him points down 233 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: the road. I don't know how it works like movies, 234 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: but he has done so much for that franchise already. 235 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: He deserves way more than forty two million a year. Yeah, 236 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I think we forget where the Lakers were and the 237 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: fact that Lebron went there and was going to change 238 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: the culture there and they became champions and they're the 239 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: favorites to win again this year. Yeah, Ton, Or you 240 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: could be generous all you want and forego your salary 241 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: or only take a million dollars, but there's no guarantees 242 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: with injuries or team chemistry. If you try to bring 243 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: in some kind of super team and other big names, 244 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: and then there you are, you know, maybe bitter because 245 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: he took all this less money for something you thought 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be a guaranteed repeat, which wasn't. When you 247 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: look at the best deal in sports right now, is 248 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: it Lebron, Nick Saban, Patrick Mahomes? What's the best deal 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: in sports? Because Mahomes, as much as we looked at 250 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: the bigger, you know, the overall price tag there, I 251 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: think he'll be a bargain. I really do. Nick Saban's 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: a bargain. Oh I saw this. Speaking of Saban, LSU 253 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: is the biggest underdog for a defending national champion in 254 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: the last forty years. LSU is a twenty nine and 255 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: a half point home underdog to Alabama this weekend. Wow 256 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half point underdog at home. That's 257 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: the largest for a defending national champ in the last 258 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: forty years. That's pretty disrespectful and I can't do it. 259 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Good Seaton, there's a better idea, but that didn't stop 260 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: you from trying. Yeah, I know you do. Seton. Could 261 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: he clean up the mess of the spill a Nisle six? 262 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't really know. Thank you. A couple of phone 263 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: calls here, Jeff and Milwaukee leads us off. Hey, Jeff, Hey, 264 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: I got a little help for you and Fritzie in 265 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: the studio lot. The guys are out big week in 266 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Milwaukee or the state of Wisconsin. Might be more of 267 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: interest to Fritzie, but Jannie uh yells Dan Rodgers, same week, 268 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: same state, same birthday week, lots of MVPs. Okay, thank 269 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: you Jack. Yeah. I mentioned that I'm stuck with Fritzie 270 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: in the man cave because the Denans are working from 271 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: their homes except for Fritzie, and we've run out of 272 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: things to say. We're the old couple. Nothing is sadder 273 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: than going to inner and you look over and you 274 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: see a couple and they're not talking to each other 275 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: together alone alone together. Yeah, as my mother in law 276 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: would say, Yeah, so that's that's what Todd and I have. 277 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I get that with my wife all the timer. She 278 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: can't dare to stay in the same way that you 279 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: already told me that that joke. I know, I heard that. 280 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. Yes, PAULI maybe we should 281 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: do like a quiz and see how much Todd knows 282 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: about you, because I'm sure he's gonna learn a lot 283 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: about your past where you went to high school. No, no no, no, no, no. 284 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: It's very very surface conversation. I don't ask you about 285 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: your commutes or anything like. No, no, because I if 286 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm if I was a woman, then you would, Yes, 287 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: if you were an attracted road I'd ask all kinds 288 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: of annoying questions. Keep you, keep you close. Kevin and 289 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind today? All right? 290 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: So yesterday we had Robert Griffin the third throwing passes 291 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: to Dez Bryant at three forty on a Wednesday afternoon. 292 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say some twenty twenty speaking. Um, Yeah, 293 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: but I had to disagree with you on the game 294 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: being played. And here's why. Once they made the decision 295 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: that Denver had to play, won't their hands tied. I mean, 296 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: they would have had a harder time explaining why they 297 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: gave a pass to Baltimore and made Denver play. I 298 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: mean that's just my thoughts on me. Yeah, I understand it, 299 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: but it feels like it's week to week. I still 300 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: don't understand the Patriots situation. You know, if you cam 301 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: test positive, then let's move it to Sunday. It feels 302 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: like they're changing the definition or changing the rules as 303 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: we go along week to week. And maybe they have to. 304 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: But when the Ravens are in Pittsburgh having flown in 305 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: and they have to test before the game, they're already depleted, 306 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: and we don't even know if they had X number 307 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of positive tests, would they've still been able to play 308 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: the game that was I just looked at it. The 309 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: competitive balance of this. Now you can put blame. I'll 310 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: put blame on the Broncos, blame on the Raiders, blame 311 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: on the Titans. But at what point do you say 312 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: we've reached We've reached our breaking point and we're gonna 313 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: have to cancel this guy. I don't know if you're 314 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna have a scenario like that, I really don't. Tom 315 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles Hey, Tom, what's on your mind? Hey? 316 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to actually ask I originally wanted to ask 317 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: about it if you had seen the comments that Paul 318 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: George made that he was trying to I think blunt 319 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: of blistering expose that came out in the Athletic about him. Yeah, 320 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: But also I wanted to give a shout out to 321 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Fritzie's conversational skills, because while I was on hold, I 322 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: somehow there was a glitch and I've somehow overheard him 323 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: talking to Danilulovski about hats of butter, and it sounded 324 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: so so delicious, and I was just like, I can't 325 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: remember the last time I ever thought about pats of butter, 326 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: but I swear to God next time I go out 327 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: to a restaurant throwing pats of butter. I am using that. 328 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you, Tom. I didn't know we 329 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: had the glitch where you could eavesdrop on us, which 330 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: is scary. But Todd, would you like to read cap 331 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: your butter conversation with I think we were just kind 332 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: of chatting how's your Thanksgiving? And one thing led to 333 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: another and ended up saying, like, you know, I like 334 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: when that you have the frozen butter or really cold 335 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: butter hitting a nice soft, warm roll like in an 336 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Italian restaurant or a steakhousin. He was, he was all 337 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: in on that. Then we just ended up bonding over 338 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: cold butter and warm rolls. Yeah yeah, Paul Actually Orlovsky 339 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: at first didn't agree with you, Todd, because the cold 340 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: butter that they often serve at nice places, it's tough 341 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: to spread on the roll and sometimes you get a 342 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: ripping motion on the bread. You have to let it 343 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: sit there for a while until you could spread it out, 344 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: which makes you wait for the bread and butter to 345 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: get in you. That is true. You gotta you gotta 346 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: be patient with it because if you can get no no, 347 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: we're good. No. But if you can get a nice 348 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: through the butter but it's really good, we're good. We're good. 349 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: We get the cold, we're good. No no no no no 350 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: no yeah. Andy. See, I hear all these conversations, and 351 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: everyone's really nice to Todd because they're being nice to 352 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: you like that. It's out of respect to you. I 353 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: mean Dan, clearly nobody wats frozen butter on a roll. No, 354 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Dan was just being nice because the interview is coming 355 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: on in Todd thinks that's a genuine relationship. That's not 356 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I get tricked every time. Yeah, like he really, you 357 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: know you've got to report there or Dan or alive. 358 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: I think I think he wants. Look, maybe we'll go 359 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: out to eat some files that we're I remember that 360 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: time we were talking about butter God, it was so great. 361 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: That was such a great conversation. All right, we'll take 362 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: a break here. We'll dive into the Russell Westbrook John 363 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Wall deal. Should lebron have taken less? Is he a bargain? 364 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: Here we'll talk to Jim McMahon ESPN NBA reporter who 365 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: had a lot of details on the Wall deal to 366 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the Rockets, plus the first round pick and Russell Westbrook 367 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: Junior the third heads to the Wizards. All of that 368 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: coming up, more phone calls as well. 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Let me 410 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: start with give it a winner and a loser here, Tim, 411 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: who got the better end of this deal? I mean, 412 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: let's be realistic. This is a mutual Sellow trade of 413 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: max salaries. John Wall hasn't played in two years. The 414 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: reports coming out of you know, his workouts, the pickup 415 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: games he's played, is that he looks good, but two 416 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: years off coming back from a torn Achilles with three 417 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: years left of a max salary. He's not exactly a 418 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: desirable formula. The Rockets were able to get the protected 419 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: first round pick. They felt like they needed that asset 420 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: if they were going to trade Russell Westbrook. But it's 421 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: hard to say that the Rockets are winners when they 422 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: just traded the guy who, for all his flaws, was 423 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: a third team All NBA selection. And you know, last 424 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: offseason they gave up Chris Paul two first round picks 425 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: and two pick swaps, so you know that's not it's 426 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: the Rockets really making the best out of a situation 427 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: that went bad. Why couldn't they keep Russell Westbrook? It 428 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: just got to the point where Russell Westbrook did not 429 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: want to be in Houston. You know, as for as 430 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: long as he had a friendship with James Harden, as 431 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: much as they mutually pushed to play together, Russell Westbrook 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: was not happy in Houston. You know. He made it 433 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: clear to the Rockets said he wanted to quote play 434 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: my game, you know, and we'll see how that works 435 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: in Washington with Bradley Beale. But you know, everybody remembers 436 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: his rough performance in the bubble. He's coming off of coronavirus. 437 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: You know, he obviously strained his quad. He was a 438 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: show of himself in the bubble. People forget that for 439 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: the two and a half months before the season was halted, 440 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: this guy was averaging thirty two, eight and eight and 441 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: playing the most efficient basketball of his career. And I 442 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: say people, apparently Russell Westbrook is one of the people 443 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: that forgot that. But he did not want to stay 444 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: in Houston. Yeah, I misspoke last hour. I said that 445 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: he had performed well in the bubble. He didn't perform 446 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: it and he had COVID. But prior to the bubble 447 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: he performed extremely well. But also it feels like Russ 448 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: with Bradley Beale makes a whole lot more sense than 449 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: Russ with James Harden. Yeah, obviously, Bradley Beale is you know, 450 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: much more capable and much better suited to play off 451 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: the ball. It is. And look, still, Russ needs to 452 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: go to Washington understanding that it is Bradley Beale's team 453 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: and that the biggest priority for the Wizards is ensuring 454 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: that Bradley Beal wants to stay in Washington for a 455 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: long long time. But I think it is more of 456 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: a one a one B situation, then it wasn't in 457 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Houston where Look, James Harden is not an off ball 458 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: player at some point, he's especially if he gets his 459 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: wish and ends up moving to another destination, you know, 460 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: playing in Brooklyn. If if that's the case, he's going 461 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: to have to adapt and play off the ball more. 462 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: But he is arguably the best isolation player in the world, 463 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: and that's what the Rockets off offense has revolved around, 464 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: certainly in recent years. And as long as Harden's there, 465 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult to make drastic changes there. 466 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I maintain if I'm the Rockets, I don't acquiesce to 467 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: James Harden. I just say, look, you wanted this, you 468 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: wanted Chris Paul out, you wanted Russell Westbrooke in. We 469 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: created all of this for you, and now you want 470 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: out like last man out, turn out the lights unless 471 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: I get another team involved in this, tim And I 472 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: don't know if that team like as Golden State, really 473 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: in this or is there another team aside from Brooklyn 474 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: interested in James Harden. Look, the team that you're going 475 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: to hear the most about is the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Obviously, 476 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Darryl moorey is a huge fan of James Harden. You 477 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: can argue that the Daryl or that the James Harden 478 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: trade really kind of made Darryl Moore's career, and Darryl 479 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: will be the first one to say that. But the 480 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: seventy the Rockets have been very clear they are not 481 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: going to move James Harden at seventy cents on the dollar. 482 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: They do not feel any urgency to move James Harden. Rather, 483 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: they would try to repair that. They want to try 484 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: to repair that relationship. Time is on their side. He 485 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: has two guaranteed years left on that deal. What the 486 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Rockets insist they would have to have in any potential 487 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: trade for Harden would be a young fanchise cornerstone and 488 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: a massive hall of draft picks at Drew Holiday type hall. 489 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Well that's what I wondered though, Tim, what Milwaukee gave 490 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: up to get Drew Holliday. If I'm the Rockets, I'm 491 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: going we're going to give you maybe the best scorer 492 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: in NBA history and still has years on his legs. 493 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what you can give up. Like if 494 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm the seventy sixers, and if I said to you 495 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you Joe lmbiid and maybe an 496 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: expiring contract or something like what would it take for 497 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: the seventy sixers to actually get James Harden where the 498 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Rockets would feel like, hey, we did okay in this deal. Yeah, 499 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the conversation would have to start with 500 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: either Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons, and then we're talking 501 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: about picks upon picks upon picks and really look the 502 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday trade, it says three picks and two you know, 503 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: pick swap rights. I think that if you're the Rockets, 504 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: you have to kind of dig your heels in and 505 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: all this stuff can can change, But for now, the 506 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Rockets can afford to be patient, and again they can 507 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: afford it to prioritize trying to kind of get Hardened 508 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: back on board. He apparently is excited about or not. 509 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited on board with the idea of playing with 510 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: John Wall. No, listen, here's the deal. If the Rockets 511 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: don't win, that pressure really picks up for them to 512 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: trade Harden. And I think the leverage is on the 513 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Rocket side until the trade deadline passes, and then it's 514 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: he's going into the last year of his contract and 515 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: the leverage really shifts. But they've got time on their 516 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: side at this moment and for the next few months. 517 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: He's Tim McMahon, he covers the NBA NBA Insider reporter 518 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: for ESPN, Explain to me what Paul George is doing. 519 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Um uh, he threw Doc under the bus and then 520 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: back up and then ran him over again here. UM. 521 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I doubt if Paul George would be saying this if 522 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Doc was still the head coach. But it feels like 523 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: Paul George and Kwhi Leonard are trying to clean up 524 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: their their their resumes a little bit. Here. Paul George 525 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: is looking for somebody to blame. I mean that that's 526 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: pretty clear. Paul George is is making excuses, and you know, 527 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: excuses don't necessarily have to be based in reality. Um. 528 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin O'Connor from The Ringer, when when Paul 529 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: George's complained, you're using me like Ray Ow, You're using 530 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: me like like JJ Reddick. The facts don't support that, 531 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor from The ring Or tweeted. Paul George last 532 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: year had the highest percentage of pick and roll usage 533 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: in his career by far so again, you know, he's 534 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: he's making excuses. That's just the the simplest way to 535 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: put it. Um for what was an extremely disappointing season 536 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: and frankly an embarrassing postseason for him, is he like 537 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: he wanted to go to Los Angeles? But is he 538 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: equipped to be in Los Angeles? There's a little bit 539 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: even with the Clippers, there's a little bit different pressure 540 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: when you are playing in LA than when you're the 541 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: man in Indiana or when you're in Oklahoma City. Oh, 542 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I know he was with the Lakers exactly, but and 543 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: and Paul George has said, honestly, a lot of very 544 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: strange things over the last few months. I thought him 545 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: taking shots at Dame Lillard, the guy you know, switched 546 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: a thirty seven footer in his face and waved bye bye. 547 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: BASI said, in your time in Oklahoma City is over? 548 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: To take shots at him? Was it was? You know, 549 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: pick your sparring partners a little bit better, I would 550 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: advise Um. And then after they're eliminated, you know, he's 551 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: this was never a championship buster season for us. Well, boy, 552 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: it sure seems like the owner felt differently because if 553 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: then the Doc Rivers tenure there. But again, that's just 554 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: a case of you joined forces with Kauai. You're going 555 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: to the Clippers, You're being talked about as a championship favorite, 556 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: and then after the fact, you're trying to revise history 557 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and say, hey, this isn't a big deal, this isn't 558 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: a disappointment. Well, yeah it was, and Paul George probably 559 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: enters this season with maybe as much to prove as 560 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: any established star in the NBA. Let's look at the 561 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: supporting cast for the Lakers prior to the start of 562 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: this last season and the supporting cast prior to the 563 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: start of this season. How would you compare the two. 564 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that Dennis Shrewder is is an upgrade in 565 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: the sense that they now have a guy who is 566 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: a can get his own offense, can can create his 567 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: own offense, you know, can really do some major damage 568 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: off the dribble. I think the pick and roll with 569 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: him and Montres Harold has a lot of potential. You know, 570 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: you looked at what montros Hero was able to do 571 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: with Lou Williams with the Clippers. I think there's going 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: to be a lot of carry over there with Dennis 573 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: Shrewder moving Danny Green and being able to replace him 574 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: with West Matthews at a much lower salary. I thought 575 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: it was a significant win for the Lakers. But look, 576 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll say this, when you have Lebron James and Anthony 577 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Davis playing in LA for the most glamorous franchise in 578 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: the league. I give credit to Ron Polinka for the 579 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: moves that he's been able to make, But there's a 580 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: pretty significant advantage in terms of being able to recruit 581 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: with exceptions and being able to recruit with minimum salaries 582 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: when you have two stars with that franchise. Should Lebron 583 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: have taken less money? Why? I know, Jim, I'm the 584 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: biggest Lebron fan. I defend him at every turn. It 585 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: feels like if there's a way to turn a story, 586 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: twist to story and make it negative about Lebron, we 587 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: do that. And I think we do that with Lebron 588 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: more than any other athlete modern day athlete. I think 589 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: he's a bargain at that price. But well, I'm just 590 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: waiting for that. The negative spin of Lebron was greedy 591 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: makes all this money off the floor. Why not take 592 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: less money and then you ensure you win more titles, 593 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: You win more titles. Now you can be on par 594 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: or above Michael Jordan. Okay, the Lakers are the finning champion, 595 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: They're the favorites going in. They have an established perennial 596 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: All NBA costar form in Anthony Davis, who's locked up 597 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: long term. I just talked about all the recruiting advantages 598 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: that the Lakers have. Rob Plink has proven that he's 599 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: able to not only put together a championship caliber supporting cast, 600 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: but be flexible in upgrading that on a year year basis. 601 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: Lebron James, without question, and there's no argument against it, 602 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: has everything in place to be able to win a 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: championship with the why is this? Why is polarizing? Tim? 604 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: You know I think that. I mean, he's to go 605 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: back to the decision, the fact that he left to 606 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: win championships, Like, what is it? I don't I don't 607 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: understand it. Look, Lebron is polarizing because he's an historically 608 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: great player who's been in the spotlight, in the international 609 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: spotlight since he's been sixteen or seventeen years old. But 610 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: who else is like that? Jordan wasn't polarizing. Patrick Holmes isn't. 611 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: And I think the NFL and NBA are a little 612 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: bit different those. Jordan he played in a in a 613 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: completely different era. Would he be polarizing now? If Jordan 614 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: played now, would he be polarizing? I'm absolutely sure that 615 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: he would be. Now, how much can you really criticize 616 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: a guy who's winning championships every single year? Look what 617 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: we have found something to criticize? Where we have found 618 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: things to nitpick? Absolutely, And for Lebron, I think part 619 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: of the reason he's polarizing is there's the whole Lebron 620 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: on versus Jordan or obviously you know the fact that 621 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: he is historically great star who is you know, taken 622 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: advantage of his leverage and moved teams repeatedly. That plays 623 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: into for a while. And I think the championship in 624 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: LA he's this, but it was Lebron versus Kobe, even 625 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: among Lakers fans always going to be something. Look, part 626 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: of the reason he's polarizing is because we need to 627 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: have conversations like this to let's be honest about it. 628 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: And Twitter and everything else. I wonder, I mean Jordan 629 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: with social media. I just think that I want, I'm 630 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: curious how he would have handled that. Yeah, and you know, 631 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: and plus he wasn't on the cover of Sports Illustrated 632 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: at sixteen. Lebron was the chosen one. Like Bryce Harper. 633 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: We're waiting for Bryce Harper to be great, and he'll 634 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: never live up to what he's probably supposed to be. 635 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Lebron has lived up to what the hype was, and 636 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: the hype was immeasurable, right, And that's what's crazy about Lebron. 637 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: He has lived up to impossibly high standards. The hype 638 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: was this guy is going to be one of the 639 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: all time great players in NBA history, and he's exceeded 640 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: those expectations. And really, the biggest PR misstep in his 641 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: life is that people didn't like the way that he 642 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: decided to take advantage of his rights as a free 643 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: agent to leave Cleveland for Miami. The decision, If that's 644 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: the biggest PR misstep of a guy who's been in 645 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: hot international spotlight for twenty years, that ain't bad, especially 646 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: when you know he more than made up to it 647 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: to Cavaliers, fans and the people of Cleveland, the people 648 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: of Ohio by going back and essentially gifting that city 649 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: its first its first major championship in over a half 650 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: a century. Tim great to connect with you. We appreciate 651 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: your time, great work, and thanks for joining us. Appreciate 652 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: you having me. That's Tim McMahon, ESPN, NBA reporter, And 653 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: I know I always go back to Lebron and defending Lebron, 654 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: and Lebron's a big boy, and then I always hear 655 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: from everybody like why are you defending him? And I look, 656 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: I was there front and center with Michael Jordan. Nobody 657 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: had a better seat during all those titles than I did, 658 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: and I recognize Michael's greatness. I just think there's part 659 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: of us that doesn't want Lebron ruining our memories, like 660 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: he's going to invade our memories. We have this impression 661 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: of Michael that we saw it, and if you were younger, 662 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: and no matter what it is, you hold on to 663 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: whatever you saw when you were younger, You hold on 664 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: for dear life because it meant more to you. And 665 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: here's Lebron and he wants to interrupt what you know, 666 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan meant to us. And he's going to interrupt 667 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: what Michael Jordan meant to us, like it or not. 668 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: And I think he'll go down as the most talented player, 669 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: the most decorated player, to ever play the game. Now, 670 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: if you said we got a game to win, I 671 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: want Michael Jordan. I mean, I'm not stupid or naive 672 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: about this, but I just think you're seeing something that 673 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: is so unique. If you said, like Michael at thirty 674 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: five was spent all right, lebron led the league and 675 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: assist want a title in the bubble. We'll take a 676 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: break back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan 677 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 678 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 679 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 680 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 681 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: the Peacock app smiskiff. Dan Patrick dot com got the 682 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: calendar in there. We got t shirts, we got hoodies, flannels, hats, 683 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: all great stuff at great prices. Go to dan Patrick 684 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: dot com. A couple other items. Coastal Carolina is gonna 685 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: face BYU this Saturday. Coastal Carolina was gonna play Liberty. 686 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: That game got post canceled, and now Coastal Carolina is fourteen. 687 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: BYU hasn't played in a couple of weeks. They're number 688 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: eight and they're trying to move up. Number eight in 689 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: the rankings, but not the College Football Playoffs Selection Committee rankings. 690 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: But BYU was looking for an opponent. It was probably 691 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: six weeks ago, maybe two months ago where I said, 692 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: you'll see a scenario where BYU may reach out to 693 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: Texas A and M, you know, late in the season 694 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: to try to improve their resume. And BYU we thought 695 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: was going to play Washington and now they're gonna play 696 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina to get a quality win if that were 697 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: the case, and for Coastal Carolina taking a chance as 698 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: well facing BYU. But I like, it got to be aggressive, 699 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: and if nobody's going to notice you, you got to 700 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 1: somehow make make some noise that they do notice you. Yeah, point, 701 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: it's a college game day for ESPN is going down 702 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: to Coastal Carolina. They're gonna do the pregame show and 703 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: then the game will kick off at against BYU five 704 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern on ESPN, U Game of the Year 705 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern ESPNU. Well they'll take it. You know, 706 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: you just want to get on any network, You want 707 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: to have somebody be able to see you. And here's 708 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: by YOU just saying, hey, we're undefeated, we got a 709 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy candidate at the quarterbacking position. Will somebody take 710 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: us seriously? JJ Watt tweeted out yesterday the lack of 711 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: holding calls this year has been purely comical, just so blatant. 712 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: Does JJ forget last year when Tom Brady tweeted out 713 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: how comical it was all the holding calls. It feels 714 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: like they're letting him play a little bit more. But 715 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: JJ saying, and he had to be watching his brother 716 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: who plays for the Steelers, and probably that's the reason why. 717 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if JJ has tweeted this out in 718 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: any other game that he might be watching, but he 719 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: was watching his brother yesterday and felt that there were 720 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: some holding calls that weren't called. Yes, mclovin, they had 721 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: another tough roughing the past recall that everybody was killing 722 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: where the guy just sort of land landed on in 723 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: the course of planning threw a flag. Yeah, there are 724 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: times you know where you're going, Wait, what did they see? 725 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: You know, did they see something that I didn't see? 726 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: And then you start looking at all the replays and 727 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: you go, all right, that seems obvious, and then something's 728 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: not called or something is called the placement of the ball. 729 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know the delay of game penalty at the 730 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: end of the first half yesterday that wasn't called. And 731 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: you're just going, all right, I don't know what you're watching, 732 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: but it feels like we're watching a different game at times. 733 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: Jane and Indiana joins us on the program. Good morning, Jane, 734 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: what is on your mind? Good morning, five to six 735 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. Thank you for that. And I just 736 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: wanted to say thanks for dependent descending Lebron. I think 737 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot of it is his stand on political issues. 738 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: Jordan didn't do that Lebron does, and I think that 739 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: may play a little part of it. And by the way, 740 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: I grew up in Lima watching The Flyers. Oh okay. 741 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: I always had a problem with the Thomas Crown affair 742 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: with Pierce Brosden, and they called it Lima Ohio in 743 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: the movie, and I went, how does that get by 744 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: the writers or the producer? Lima not Lima. I don't 745 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: know that for some reason that it didn't ruin the 746 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: movie because Renee Russo is in the movie, and it's 747 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: hard for a movie to be bad with Renee Russo 748 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: in it. Love Renee Russo. Get Shorty Renee russo spectacular. Yes, 749 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: so it's Lima, Peru, but Lima, Lima, Ohio, Lima Ohio. 750 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: And I think Lebron is polarizing before any political stances. 751 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: I think that he's been very active socially active here 752 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, but prior to that, 753 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: he's always been. I had somebody who was at his 754 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: first game, and I think this was a preseason game. 755 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: It might have been against Sacramento, and I remember talking 756 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: to an NBA scout because I said, Hey, what did 757 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: you think? And he goes, he wasn't even the best 758 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: player on the floor. I went really, really, yeah, what 759 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: even the best player on the floor. I go, Lee, 760 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: he's not gonna live up to the hype there. And 761 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: that NBA scout is still an NBA scout and I 762 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: still joke with him. I say, hey, occasionally I'll text 763 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: him and go, hey, how's Lebron looking tonight? And Lebron 764 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: could have like a triple double or something. You'll go, 765 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: not even the best player on the floor. L L Yeah, Polley, 766 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: that guy at least maybe has a little bit of 767 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: a point. Now that Anthony Davis is on the Scott 768 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: could say it maybe yeah, all right, more phone calls 769 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: coming up next hour. Bill Walton is going to join 770 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: us unplugged. I'm listening to some of the dialogue and 771 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: it feels like it's a conversation that Bill is having, 772 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: and then a basketball game breaks out. It's not a 773 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: basketball game, and then Bill has a conversation. It's Bill 774 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: has a conversation and there's a basketball game going on. Yes, time. 775 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: I remind him about what time is coming on, and 776 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: he responded, thank you for my life's the best. 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